Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - Canadian Authoritarianism
Aired: 2022-02-17
Duration: 58:56


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[00:01:23]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:01:25]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:01:27]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.

=== Dystopian Government Measures (11:47) ===

[00:01:30]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:01:36]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:01:41]  You're listening to part of the problem on the Gash Digital Network.
[00:01:45]  Here's your host.
[00:01:46]  James Smith.
[00:01:48]  What is up, ladies and gentlemen?
[00:01:51]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:01:54]  Of course, I'm the most consistent motherfucker you know, the libertarian Tupac.
[00:01:58]  And he is COVID Jesus, the king of the caulks, Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
[00:02:02]  What's up, my brother?
[00:02:03]  You know, I feel like it might be the end.
[00:02:06]  Biden's really stirring up everything into a frenzy, talk nuclear war.
[00:02:09]  So if you're out there, support the gas digital sponsors while you can.
[00:02:13]  Just spend all your money.
[00:02:16]  That's right.
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[00:02:21]  It's all we can do at this point and cross our fingers.
[00:02:25]  And if you're Elon Musk, you're probably not going to get to Mars in time.
[00:02:27]  So also fund our political movement.
[00:02:29]  Well, it's such a goddamn fascinating time, man.
[00:02:33]  It really is.
[00:02:33]  I know I'm sure we've said this a lot over the last couple of years, but it's so, it's like the stakes.
[00:02:39]  There's usually not a guy with dementia talking about nuclear war.
[00:02:42]  That's true.
[00:02:42]  That's, but it does seem like the stakes are so high.
[00:02:46]  But I really do feel like the potential for beauty and disaster are both so high.
[00:02:52]  Like you see these things kind of simultaneously happening where you see like, you know, I mean, look, even just like from the experience of doing Rogan this last time, I've done the show a lot of times, but this last time, it's like, oh my God, the feet, the response you get from it now.
[00:03:07]  It's like, this thing is so huge.
[00:03:10]  This show is bigger than all of the corporate press shows combined.
[00:03:15]  And it's constantly putting on people who are completely challenging the narrative.
[00:03:20]  You know, you're like, wow, that's a fucking white pill.
[00:03:22]  Like, that's something to be really encouraged by.
[00:03:24]  You look around, you see, like, homeschool numbers are higher than they've ever been.
[00:03:29]  The trust in public schools is lower than it's ever been.
[00:03:32]  The trust in all institutions, you know, all of this stuff is just like, it's just collapsing.
[00:03:39]  And then you see the narrative of the COVID regime collapsing and even all of these people at the top kind of walking it back and like, oh, the science has changed.
[00:03:46]  And DC undid their mandate just recently.
[00:03:52]  You see New York talking about undoing the mandates.
[00:03:55]  You see like all these areas.
[00:03:56]  Jersey just undid the school mask mandate, like all these areas, kind of like slowly walking it back.
[00:04:04]  But at the same time, then you also see this move to kind of like crack down on the dissenting voices, because even if they want to walk it back, they've got to kind of make sure that it's not like this isn't a loss for them and a victory for the dissenters.
[00:04:19]  So it's like, well, no, You know, you see this thing that is very disturbing, very dangerous, this trend of labeling, and this is something we've been talking about for a while, but this trend of labeling people who dissent from the regime as terrorists.
[00:04:41]  This is a very dangerous, you know, like thing.
[00:04:44]  That's not that word, using that word terrorist to describe, you know, whatever, January 6th or Trump supporters or angry parents at public schools.
[00:04:56]  That's that's a very specifically chosen word.
[00:04:59]  And, you know, the whole turning the war on terrorism inward is something we've talked a lot about.
[00:05:04]  It's a very troubling, very dangerous kind of thing.
[00:05:07]  So it's interesting, you know, to just be in this world where there's like, oof, there's so much to be optimistic about and so much to be really concerned about.
[00:05:16]  And nothing sums that up better than what's been going on in Canada over the last month.
[00:05:22]  And I know what you people are thinking out there.
[00:05:24]  It's not often we open the show with Canada.
[00:05:27]  It's got to get really, really crazy for Canada to even make it into the show, let alone not be like a footnote at the end of the show, like last 60 seconds.
[00:05:37]  Rob, what's going on in Canada?
[00:05:38]  You're like, I don't know, something about ice hockey.
[00:05:40]  And then we wrap up.
[00:05:42]  No, we're opening with you, Canada.
[00:05:43]  You've done it.
[00:05:45]  So, of course, as everyone knows, this really is kind of remarkable, right?
[00:05:48]  Like it was only a few episodes ago that me and you were making fun of Justin Trudeau for calling the trucker protests fringe.
[00:05:58]  And if you remember, no one in the corporate press was reporting on it.
[00:06:02]  And it was just like, you know, like you'd see it on social media and you'd be like, whoa, did you see those pictures?
[00:06:06]  That was like fucking like, you know, it was like 5,000 trucks up there.
[00:06:11]  Like this was insane.
[00:06:12]  You know, and they'd have the pictures where they're like zooming out and showing you how big it is.
[00:06:16]  But the corporate press was like, this is fringe.
[00:06:18]  We're ignoring it.
[00:06:19]  It's not even worth reporting on.
[00:06:21]  That was their position only a few weeks ago.
[00:06:25]  Today, their position is not only that it's not fringe and not worth reporting on, but it is a grave terroristic threat, the likes of which Canada has never seen.
[00:06:35]  That's an amazing change in such a short period of time.
[00:06:39]  It's amazing, like just within a few weeks to go from like not even worth talking about, the gravest threat ever to the point where we have to invoke these emergency powers that have never been invoked before.
[00:06:50]  That's really something.
[00:06:53]  So anyway, yeah, the truckers, so there's the white pill aspect of it.
[00:06:57]  Like, oh, this is so crazy, like working class people rising up against an oppressive regime.
[00:07:02]  It's working.
[00:07:03]  They're garnering support.
[00:07:05]  They're making a lot of, you know, they're raising a lot of awareness.
[00:07:11]  And then, of course, comes the crackdown.
[00:07:15]  And let's hear it from the fruity communist's mouth himself.
[00:07:20]  Justin Trudeau.
[00:07:22]  After discussing with cabinet and caucus, after consultation with premiers from all provinces and territories, after speaking with opposition leaders, the federal government has invoked the Emergencies Act to supplement provincial and territorial capacity to address the blockades and occupations.
[00:07:49]  I want to be very clear.
[00:07:51]  The scope of these measures will be time-limited, geographically targeted, as well as reasonable and proportionate to the threats they are meant to address.
[00:08:05]  Let's pause it right there.
[00:08:07]  No, they won't be.
[00:08:09]  I'm going to go out on a limb and say, no, that will, in fact, not be true.
[00:08:15]  None of that.
[00:08:16]  There's something about, I love just like the, you know, something about government officials, in this case, a prime minister, saying, like, well, listen, this is going to be like, this is going to be, you know, short and it's going to be measured.
[00:08:31]  It's going to be appropriate.
[00:08:33]  It won't be, it'll be reasonable.
[00:08:36]  Come on.
[00:08:36]  Well, first off, the idea that this will be temporary was Milton Friedman's quote, I believe.
[00:08:42]  It said, there's nothing so permanent as a temporary government program.
[00:08:46]  But, you know, I mean, you can remember, like, of course, when Richard Nixon announced in 1971 that he was temporarily suspending the convertibility of dollars into gold.
[00:08:58]  That was only temporary.
[00:09:00]  So it should end any day now.
[00:09:02]  We'll be right back on that gold standard.
[00:09:04]  I don't know.
[00:09:05]  That was 1971.
[00:09:06]  It's 2022.
[00:09:07]  It's been, this is a nice size, temporary, you know, decoupling of money from assets.
[00:09:14]  Okay.
[00:09:15]  You know, there's, and there's like a million examples of this, of course, like all of these things that are sold as temporary measures.
[00:09:20]  I mean, look, I'm not saying this is going to go on, this one will go on forever, but that's just for a government to say, eh, it's temporary and we decide what that means.
[00:09:28]  Eh, it's reasonable and we decide what that means.
[00:09:31]  This is really, I mean, I don't know.
[00:09:34]  It's like, this is something out of a fucking like dystopian nightmare movie.
[00:09:39]  But God, it's like having it be true, though.
[00:09:43]  Like, don't you, if you, if you like had to live under a strongman dictator, don't you at least want it to be like some badass, like not this little like metro sexual like guy pushing equity.
[00:09:57]  That's who you got to be ruled over?
[00:09:59]  Just sucks.
[00:10:00]  You want the funny mustaches, the military uniforms, all the stuff you've grown to love.
[00:10:06]  Since Libertas, I can't not see the translators.
[00:10:10]  And why does he need both a boy and girl here?
[00:10:14]  Equality, bro.
[00:10:16]  Is that the way they do it on every single broadcast?
[00:10:18]  They need, and it also seems like they're translating at different paces.
[00:10:22]  Is French sign language different than English?
[00:10:24]  That might be what it is.
[00:10:26]  I have no fucking idea, Rob, but that's a good call.
[00:10:28]  I did not even, I did not even catch that.
[00:10:30]  I have no answer for you.
[00:10:31]  As the guy who wrote that joke, I'm not an expert in this.
[00:10:34]  I just thought of a funny thing to say and then said it.
[00:10:37]  But yeah, that is, I didn't even notice that.
[00:10:40]  Good for you.
[00:10:41]  Okay, let's.
[00:10:42]  By the way, you've somewhat ruined press conferences because I can't not watch that guy for some stretch of them.
[00:10:47]  Like, I used to not even notice it.
[00:10:49]  Yeah, press conferences aren't that good anyway.
[00:10:51]  So that's that's it's okay.
[00:10:54]  I didn't ruin that much for you.
[00:10:55]  All right, let's finish the rest of this and discuss.
[00:10:59]  Redress.
[00:11:00]  The Emergencies Act will be used to strengthen and support law enforcement agencies at all levels across the country.
[00:11:09]  This is about keeping Canadians safe, protecting people's jobs, and restoring confidence in our institutions.
[00:11:20]  Here's how the measures we're taking today will help get the situation under control.
[00:11:26]  The police will be given more tools to restore order in places where public assemblies can constitute illegal and dangerous activities, such as more tools usually just means permission to do more violent things.
[00:11:42]  Isn't it a wonderful euphemism?
[00:11:44]  Yeah.
[00:11:45]  Isn't it just amazing that we're going to give the police more tools?
[00:11:49]  Like right now, they have like a Phillips head screwdriver, but we're going to hook them up with like a wrench and, you know, maybe, you know, maybe a drill.
[00:11:59]  We're not sure exactly.
[00:12:00]  Like, it's just this, this idea, more tools.
[00:12:03]  So what do you mean by more tools?
[00:12:05]  Oh, we're going to allow them to fuck people up.
[00:12:10]  That's more.
[00:12:10]  We'll allow them to arrest people for whatever they feel like arresting people for.
[00:12:14]  What else are we talking about here?
[00:12:16]  More tools?
[00:12:18]  You're not talking about giving them binoculars, motherfucker.
[00:12:21]  What are you going to give them?
[00:12:23]  Let's be clear about that.
[00:12:24]  Oh, no, just like more tool, more.
[00:12:26]  Yeah.
[00:12:26]  We're really going to give them more support.
[00:12:29]  What does this mean?
[00:12:30]  And he suddenly cares about people's jobs.
[00:12:33]  Oh, right.
[00:12:33]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:12:34]  Because that's the major driving issue.
[00:12:36]  If there's one thing the COVID regime in Canada has always been about protecting, it's making sure we don't disrupt anybody's jobs.
[00:12:43]  And then, and look, here it is, right?
[00:12:45]  To say, he said there that they're going to give the cops more tools to break up people protesting.
[00:12:53]  Now, he's not claiming, even claiming in this, that these are people being violent, that he's going to stop people from being violent.
[00:13:01]  It's like, no, just people who want to go out there and make it clear that they are objectors to this whole regime.
[00:13:10]  You know, this kind of like sickening revolutionary rise of totalitarianism that's happened over the last two years.

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=== Bitcoin and Seized Funds (15:17) ===

[00:15:54]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:15:55]  All right, let's keep playing activities such as blockades and occupations as seen in Ottawa, Ambassador Bridge, and elsewhere.
[00:16:06]  These tools include strengthening their ability to impose fines or imprisonment.
[00:16:13]  The government will designate, secure, and protect places and influence.
[00:16:19]  Isn't it so funny?
[00:16:19]  Let me just pause it for a second, like just the way they talk about it.
[00:16:21]  Like, even when he says the tool, these tools will include, you know, fines and imprisonment.
[00:16:26]  This is always just the way fucking statists talk, man.
[00:16:29]  Now, government is such a fucking trip, but it's just like, you know, it's like, oh, we are going to give police officers more tools, and these tools will include fines and imprisonment.
[00:16:40]  It's like translated into normal people talk.
[00:16:44]  That's just like, hey, we got some thugs with guns and they're going to come rob you and fucking kidnap you and lock you in cages.
[00:16:55]  I would have so much more respect for the government if they would just be the mafia that they are without the whole illusion and just yo, this is our fucking territory and we'll lock you in a fucking cage if you try to fucking you know stand up against us.
[00:17:08]  But they have to do this shit and go, no, we're not infringing on anyone's rights.
[00:17:13]  Of course not.
[00:17:14]  We're just saying we'll steal your money and lock you in a cage.
[00:17:16]  That's all.
[00:17:18]  Imagine recasting a mafia movie with this guy of, well, it's because you were hurting me.
[00:17:22]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:17:24]  Yeah.
[00:17:26]  It was the safety of the other guys.
[00:17:28]  It's not for me.
[00:17:29]  It's really, it's about the community, man.
[00:17:31]  Oh, how much would the Sopranos have sucked?
[00:17:33]  All right, let's keep playing.
[00:17:36]  Our economy and people's jobs, including border crossings and airports.
[00:17:42]  We cannot and will not allow illegal and dangerous activities to continue.
[00:17:50]  The Emergencies Act will also allow the government to make sure essential services are rendered, for example, in order to tow vehicles blocking roads.
[00:18:01]  In addition, financial institutions will be authorized or directed to render essential services to help address the situation, including by regulating and prohibiting the use of property to fund or support illegal blockades.
[00:18:19]  Finally, it will enable the RCMP to enforce municipal bylaws and provincial offenses where required.
[00:18:29]  This is what the Emergencies Act does.
[00:18:34]  Let me be equally clear about what it does not do.
[00:18:39]  We're not using the emergencies.
[00:18:43]  Because this is the biggest bombshell of the entire thing, and it's the creepiest part.
[00:18:47]  We're saying that banks can seize your money.
[00:18:50]  So it doesn't take much because it's going to be on you to prove that you weren't doing something violent or that you weren't a terrorist.
[00:18:57]  You're essentially turning every banks into like what the cops do in America with civil asset forfeiture, where they take your money first and then good luck.
[00:19:04]  It's on you to fucking prove that it was taken unlawfully or something like that.
[00:19:09]  Yeah, I mean, look, to say like, this is the thing about this, right?
[00:19:13]  It's like when you say something like is a crime, or like, let's say, and this is where procedure actually matters to some degree, right?
[00:19:22]  But like, let's say, like, whatever in America, let's say Congress passes a new law and it's signed by the president, or like at a state level, like, you know, the state Congress like passes a law and it's signed into law by the governor or something.
[00:19:35]  It's like, okay, so there's a new law.
[00:19:37]  Now we may oppose that law.
[00:19:38]  It could be really awful.
[00:19:39]  It could be a really bad law.
[00:19:41]  At least there is this long-standing system, as imperfect as it may be, where it's like, okay, well, I have to be charged with violating this law.
[00:19:53]  I get a lawyer, I get to appear in front of a judge, I get to make my argument, I get to defend myself, you know, all of this.
[00:20:00]  But when you just go, we have these new powers.
[00:20:02]  It's not like saying, oh, the parliament or the Congress or whoever has passed this new law, just saying, oh, there's these new powers.
[00:20:08]  Now banks can do this.
[00:20:10]  It becomes this thing that is completely outside of like the thousands of year old tradition of common law going back to like British common law, where it's like, oh, okay, well, what about like, I mean, you could argue even going back to like the Magna Carta or like something like that.
[00:20:25]  Like, well, what, what does this mean?
[00:20:27]  Is it just saying the bank can seize your money?
[00:20:29]  So the bank seizes your money.
[00:20:31]  Let's say you were out there at a protest, but you didn't block any roads or you didn't do anything, you know, that he's saying you can't do.
[00:20:38]  And they seize your money to your point.
[00:20:40]  What do you do?
[00:20:41]  I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't seem like they have to like take you to court to seize your money, clearly, right?
[00:20:47]  They're just going to seize your money.
[00:20:49]  Okay, so now the bank has your money.
[00:20:50]  Now what's your, I don't know, get a lawyer and good luck.
[00:20:54]  Now you got to go through the government and see like if this government who's at war with you is going to help you fucking recoup some of this money.
[00:21:00]  Good luck.
[00:21:01]  Maybe you're not even at one of the protests.
[00:21:04]  It's just a mistake.
[00:21:05]  I mean, do you think, what, banks aren't going to make any mistakes with this shit?
[00:21:09]  I mean, we all, we know cops certainly do.
[00:21:12]  You had cops.
[00:21:12]  There was footage of cops in Canada knocking on people's doors, giving them pamphlets, just letting them know how to peacefully protest because they had been on groups online supporting people, basically saying, hey, I'm a cop.
[00:21:25]  We're watching you online.
[00:21:26]  So, I mean, that can include the digital landscape.
[00:21:29]  It can also include what happened with January 6th.
[00:21:31]  You don't do anything illegal.
[00:21:32]  Maybe you leave.
[00:21:32]  They pass this law and then they start going through footage, seeing the license plate of what trucks were there.
[00:21:37]  And suddenly they start seizing your money.
[00:21:40]  And where this gets really scary is as they're talking about digital currency.
[00:21:45]  So just understanding that we're living in a new environment where potentially 10 years from now, there is no such thing as physical money.
[00:21:52]  It's all in digital wallets.
[00:21:54]  It doesn't matter if it's in a bank or you're holding it on your phone.
[00:21:57]  Government's got access to it.
[00:21:59]  And just you and I, hey, you said something that might stir up violence.
[00:22:03]  You're no longer entitled to your money.
[00:22:04]  Hey, you don't have an opinion we like.
[00:22:06]  So we're going to call you a racist.
[00:22:08]  We're going to say that you're dangerous or terrorist or any term that you just want to float without having to prove it in court.
[00:22:13]  And now you don't have your money.
[00:22:15]  Yeah.
[00:22:15]  Yeah.
[00:22:16]  No, that is really fucking creepy, man.
[00:22:18]  So, well, yeah, let me ask you about that because I know you, you just had a guy, Guy Swanson on your show, right?
[00:22:26]  Okay.
[00:22:26]  Yeah.
[00:22:26]  I got to get him back on.
[00:22:27]  And I did a long episode on ESG scores on Liberty Lockdown with Clint.
[00:22:31]  Okay.
[00:22:31]  All right.
[00:22:32]  Very interesting.
[00:22:33]  So yeah, that stuff is creepy as shit.
[00:22:36]  So, but let me ask you because it seems to me, and again, this is something I really don't know as much as I should.
[00:22:41]  So I got to get Guy back on the show to fucking explain the shit to me.
[00:22:45]  But I understand where he's like, you know, and other people are like, look, this is Bit.
[00:22:50]  Because look, this has been, in a way, what the Bitcoin advocates have been pitching about Bitcoin, just in theory, for a very long time.
[00:22:59]  Like, no, this is what makes Bitcoin so great that in this case, which may have seemed kind of, you know, to non-libertarians seemed like, all right, this is like conspiracy theory land.
[00:23:11]  Like, but we were all kind of like, no, this is actually how we see it going.
[00:23:14]  And they were like, in this case, Bitcoin is what you need because Bitcoin is not, it's not possible for them to like shut this down or seize it or any of that.
[00:23:22]  So from your perspective, is Bitcoin resistant to all of this?
[00:23:25]  Like if the government were, which they seem in Canada, like they're going to move forward with this, is that still going to be a way that people can fund the protesters or protect their own money?
[00:23:36]  How much more of my money should I be putting into Bitcoin right now?
[00:23:39]  A lot of people.
[00:23:40]  Honestly, this changes my risk assessment of how much money to be keeping in crypto because now you know that like we're not that far away from your money just being seized.
[00:23:48]  So it's not just the risk of inflation, it's also just the risk of government being like, oh, we don't like you and seizing your capital.
[00:23:56]  In terms of protecting yourselves from this with crypto, you got to be a little bit slicker than I'm being at the moment, which is like I'm on Coinbase.
[00:24:04]  My money on Coinbase is just as protected as money at Chase Bank, if even.
[00:24:08]  You know what I mean?
[00:24:09]  It's on a exchange.
[00:24:10]  It's not like in a cold wallet.
[00:24:13]  If you go the scenario, and Guy Swan was just telling me about this, where basically you move it into your own wallet, you just got to memorize your code.
[00:24:21]  You can go anywhere in the world and you can access it.
[00:24:25]  Shit, got to memorize a code.
[00:24:27]  Man, when I was in the fifth grade, I used to have so many phone numbers memorized, but I just don't anymore.
[00:24:33]  Okay.
[00:24:33]  Well, that's all right.
[00:24:34]  So that's that's interesting to know.
[00:24:36]  All right.
[00:24:36]  I have to have him on and talk about it with him some more.
[00:24:39]  All right.
[00:24:39]  Let's play the rest of this clip.
[00:24:41]  Tell us what this is not.
[00:24:42]  Using the emergency agencies act to call in the military.
[00:24:46]  We're not suspending fundamental rights or overriding the charter of rights and freedoms.
[00:24:53]  We are not limiting people's freedom of speech.
[00:24:56]  We are not limiting freedom of peaceful assembly.
[00:25:00]  We are not preventing people from exercising their right to protest.
[00:25:05]  Can you pause again?
[00:25:07]  Isn't it unbelievable?
[00:25:09]  But this is exactly the problem of not going to court and not having to like prove, hey, that's a terrorist, or what I'm doing is not infringing on someone's rights, is that you're allowed to just say it.
[00:25:21]  That's why you need a court of law system because politicians will just say these things all the time.
[00:25:26]  Well, right.
[00:25:26]  So at first he goes, we're not calling in the military.
[00:25:29]  And you're like, okay, yeah, but you are giving the cops extra tools.
[00:25:33]  So does it really make much of a substantive difference if it's the military doing military shit or cops doing military shit?
[00:25:42]  So, okay, fine.
[00:25:43]  And then you go, we're not limiting anybody's basic liberties.
[00:25:47]  It's like, yeah, but you just said you're going to like steal from people or, you know, cage them, or that financial companies can just fucking like take their assets.
[00:25:58]  So that seems pretty fundamental to me in terms of in the realm of liberties.
[00:26:04]  So, you know, again, just no, we're not doing that.
[00:26:07]  None of that is happening.
[00:26:08]  And this is where it drives my autistic brain.
[00:26:10]  So it's like, how do you define peaceful assembly?
[00:26:12]  So what exactly is the definition of peaceful assembly?
[00:26:15]  And how does that differ from what the truckers did?
[00:26:17]  So what specifically, what like, what, what specifically is the vehicle by which people can say, hey, our government has turned tyrannical and show up in a peaceful manner?
[00:26:26]  Like, what, how does that exist?
[00:26:27]  Yeah, it's like, it's also funny that it's like, you know, in 2020, when there were all those crazy, you know, like Black Lives Matter riots, I heard nothing but how this is mostly peaceful out of, you know, many different corners of the country, you know, and all of the establishment corners.
[00:26:44]  That was pretty much the narrative.
[00:26:45]  And it's like, so just because these guys are like, you know, it's like smarter and more kind of organized, like even if they are doing something, they're like blocking off a fucking, you know, bridge.
[00:26:56]  It's not like, it's not just looting a fucking Nike store.
[00:27:01]  You know what I mean?
[00:27:01]  But it's far less violent than that movement was.
[00:27:04]  No question about it.
[00:27:05]  But all of a sudden, this is a real issue that we have to crack down on.
[00:27:09]  It really shows you something about like, you know, the kind of like what the state really cares about.
[00:27:14]  And it's like, oh, yeah, you've got like the backbone of the economy, truckers, like really organizing, really putting pressure and really focused on policy.
[00:27:24]  You know, it's like all these things that the Black Lives Matter movement didn't have.
[00:27:28]  You know, not just this kind of like yelling about racism or something, but really focused on like, we want an end to these mandates.
[00:27:35]  This is what we're here for, you know?
[00:27:38]  And then doing it in this kind of like, you know, really thoughtful, kind of like well-planned out way.
[00:27:46]  That is a threat to the state.
[00:27:47]  If Black Lives Matter was doing some of that shit, believe me, there would have been a lot of fucking pressure to crack down on that shit, but they weren't.
[00:27:54]  And they felt that they could be used, you know.
[00:27:56]  But let's get real.
[00:27:57]  It's not about the violence.
[00:27:59]  Like, they don't give a fuck.
[00:28:00]  It's like, oh, your fucking, your, your fucking small business got, you know, set on fire.
[00:28:05]  Like, whatever.
[00:28:06]  That doesn't mean anything.
[00:28:07]  But like, oh, shit, these guys are actually like working up, you know, a lot of public support to end these mandates.
[00:28:14]  That's an issue.
[00:28:15]  All right, there's like 10 seconds left in the video.
[00:28:18]  Let's play it.
[00:28:20]  Reinforcing the principles, values, and institutions that keep all Canadians free.
[00:28:32]  And of course, we have to do this to keep everybody free.
[00:28:35]  That's why I have to, I mean, imagine, like, it's literally out of a fucking Orwell novel.
[00:28:40]  And I have to declare, you know, for the first time ever, I have to invoke the emergency powers to keep everybody free.
[00:28:47]  Hmm.
[00:28:48]  Doesn't seem like that's really like throughout history.
[00:28:52]  If there's one thing that keeps people free, it's usually not governments declaring emergency powers.
[00:29:00]  It's not usually the thing that keeps them the most free.
[00:29:04]  There's others.
[00:29:06]  All right.
[00:29:07]  So on a little bit continuing with what you said was the creepiest aspect of all of this, I do.
[00:29:14]  I'm not sure I completely agree with you that it's the creepiest aspect.
[00:29:17]  I think it's equally creepy.
[00:29:18]  I mean, I think the fucking kind of like cops coming in with extra tools in itself is very creepy, but the financial stuff is more insidious in some ways and more terrifying for like the future of what you know the cop violence thing, we've seen it before.
[00:29:35]  And also when you get camera footage of that, that it doesn't play well.
[00:29:38]  When you're just sitting at home and then you're trying to get on social media to let the world know, hey, all my money was just taken from me and I can't get it back.
[00:29:46]  You're probably going to get censored from social media.
[00:29:48]  You're going to go start telling your friends they're not going to believe you.
[00:29:51]  And they can do that to anyone at any given time.
[00:29:55]  You're talking about like a whole new landscape of government censorship where they're not just stripping you from being able to share your opinion online, but they're actually punishing you by making it so you can't live.
[00:30:07]  Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.
[00:30:09]  There's something that's scarier about that than just the brute, like naked force, you know, aggression of the state.
[00:30:16]  Okay, so let's play.
[00:30:17]  Here's the next video with that woman.
[00:30:19]  I believe that this was a woman who was just right behind Trudeau right there.
[00:30:22]  She's, of course, masked up there, so I couldn't see, but let's play this next video, getting into a little bit about the financial shit.
[00:30:31]  First, the scope of Canada's anti-money laundering and terrorist financing rules so that they cover crowdfunding platforms and the payment service providers they use.
[00:30:46]  These changes cover all forms of transactions, including digital assets such as cryptocurrencies.
[00:30:55]  The illegal blockades have highlighted the fact that crowdfunding platforms and some of the payment service providers they use are not fully captured under the Proceeds of Crime and Terrorist Financing Act.

=== Monopoly on Money (05:36) ===

[00:31:11]  So there you go.
[00:31:12]  Now, by the way, let me tell you something.
[00:31:14]  That fucking woman was, I'm blanking on her name right now.
[00:31:18]  She was a journalist in America.
[00:31:22]  She used to regularly do like the fucking cable news circuit.
[00:31:25]  It just kind of lets you know.
[00:31:27]  But doesn't it let you know how easily you could transition from being like a corporate press journalist into being that?
[00:31:33]  You know what I mean?
[00:31:34]  Like, this is what they all have.
[00:31:35]  It's like, ooh, yeah.
[00:31:36]  You know, we've got these kind of like we've got these holes that our laws don't treat terrorists quite tough enough.
[00:31:45]  So we're going to strengthen the anti-terrorist laws and direct them at Canadian citizens.
[00:31:54]  Whew, that is fucking creepy.
[00:31:56]  And, you know, crowdfunding, going after crowdfunding, it's a very interesting thing.
[00:32:00]  It's like, you know, the government loves to claim a monopoly on so many services, of course, on money is a very big one, if not the biggest, most important to governments.
[00:32:14]  And they like to, if not claim a monopoly, at least certainly through monopolistic forces, crowd out other forms of charity and things like this.
[00:32:23]  And crowdfunding really does kind of undercut a lot of that.
[00:32:27]  You know, like a lot of people now don't have to go to big banks to raise money.
[00:32:32]  I mean, we see, we've seen this all over the place.
[00:32:34]  We've talked about this for the last like seven, eight years that you see this where people are starting companies using like crowdfunding, that people are helping out other people who need help.
[00:32:44]  You see this all the time, you know, like GoFundMe type things where, oh, somebody has a, you know, a kid who's sick or something like that, raise money for them.
[00:32:52]  Someone's wife got hurt and has medical bills, blah, blah, blah.
[00:32:56]  And so it's always been kind of a little bit of like an interesting like competition to the state, you know.
[00:33:02]  But now in this instance, where people can, in a true kind of, you know, in the noblest sense, some type of form of democracy, you know what I mean?
[00:33:13]  Where people can actually say, like, oh, well, what would we like to fund?
[00:33:16]  What programs would we actually like to fund with our money?
[00:33:19]  And in this case, they'd like to fund the effort to repeal these mandates.
[00:33:24]  And now they're coming in to shut that down.
[00:33:27]  And of course, the big corporations are happy to help.
[00:33:29]  We already saw GoFundMe do it even before they came in with this shit and steal like $10 million from these people.
[00:33:37]  So anyway, yeah, to your point, that is creepy.
[00:33:40]  Stated differently, this politician is saying, oh shit, new technology allowed for freedom.
[00:33:46]  It's kind of like they tried getting rid of like Uber and hotel Airbnb because suddenly you could just like go, oh, I got a car.
[00:33:54]  I'll just give you a ride.
[00:33:55]  Or, hey, I've got an empty room.
[00:33:56]  I'll rent it out.
[00:33:57]  And, you know, hotels, they didn't like that.
[00:33:59]  It was cutting into their profits.
[00:34:00]  Cabs certainly didn't like that.
[00:34:02]  It got rid of the value of the medallion in New York City.
[00:34:06]  So, you know, it's the same thing here.
[00:34:07]  All of a sudden, in a new field, you could just, yeah.
[00:34:10]  And then at the other end, I know, I know, let me just say sorry.
[00:34:13]  And I know this is like the point of the sky liberty shit.
[00:34:16]  But it is, I do think this stuff is like, like, not to get too lost in theory, because obviously we're talking about like a real crisis that's happening in real life right now, but it is just kind of interesting to think about where it's like, you know, like I remember when there was the blackout in New York City after, what's it called?
[00:34:35]  Fucking Katrina, not Katrina, Jesus Christ when I'm fucking retarded after Sandy, Hurricane Sandy, Superstorm Sandy.
[00:34:44]  And it was like a bad blackout in the city for like a few days.
[00:34:48]  Like all of like Midtown and downtown Manhattan had no power.
[00:34:51]  It was real weird to fucking see.
[00:34:53]  And the subways were out, which is like, you know, millions of New Yorkers ride the subways.
[00:34:59]  It's like insane.
[00:35:00]  And so taxis were like really hard to fucking get.
[00:35:03]  You know, like it was, you know, everyone needs one.
[00:35:06]  And so they started, they just stopped enforcing it and they started doing this thing, like just organically kind of rose up where people like at like downtown Brooklyn, cars would just kind of stop with people by the bridge and be like, where are you going?
[00:35:18]  You're going over the bridge in Manhattan.
[00:35:19]  It's like, yeah, okay, throw me 10 bucks.
[00:35:21]  I'll drop you over here.
[00:35:22]  And like all this shit.
[00:35:24]  And it was interesting watching that and being like, oh, this is normally illegal.
[00:35:29]  But right now they're just not enforcing it.
[00:35:32]  But you're like, this is illegal.
[00:35:35]  Like, I'm sorry, we're not free people if this is illegal.
[00:35:39]  If it's illegal for someone to just be like, I'm in a car, you need a ride.
[00:35:43]  Throw me a 10 spot and I'll drop you off where you need a bit.
[00:35:46]  Like, that's that's illegal.
[00:35:48]  You could, what, what are they going to do to you?
[00:35:51]  Fine you, arrest you for that?
[00:35:54]  You're like, oh, okay, I'm sorry.
[00:35:55]  Just like, then you're like a tyrant and you are like a slave.
[00:36:01]  I mean, that's just like the relationship here, objectively.
[00:36:04]  But anyway, I know that's just like law, like theory stuff, but it's kind of worth thinking about.
[00:36:07]  But when you see it kind of like come, you know, to fruition in like a crisis like this, yeah, you do see this really is the thing.
[00:36:15]  It's like, yeah, no, you're, you know, these things are causing a problem.
[00:36:20]  We're making the move toward totalitarianism and these things are a threat to us.
[00:36:25]  So we will use the full force of the state to squash this.
[00:36:30]  Very creepy.
[00:36:32]  And by the way, just in your cab example, because the government always steps in and goes, well, we can't have that for safety issues, but the free market takes care of that because then all of a sudden, like, yes, if you're a lady and you're traveling solo, you'd probably pay a premium to be in a cab.

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[00:36:47]  But guess what?
[00:36:48]  There are going to be more people who are willing to do the other thing, people like me, that your cab's actually going to cost you less.
[00:36:53]  They're going to have to give you better service.
[00:36:55]  And also, you know, your random people grabbing your 10 spots would probably have to figure out a way, which Uber did, that you're able to rank your driver.
[00:37:02]  So like, that's government's big claim is that without us, you wouldn't have safety.
[00:37:06]  But even just in your cab example, you can see how it gets settled pretty quickly.
[00:37:10]  Right.
[00:37:10]  And there's no reason why like a cab driver couldn't also be a threat.
[00:37:13]  They don't even put them through criminal background checks, at least in New York.
[00:37:17]  I know they don't.
[00:37:17]  It's like, I don't know, that guy could be a problem.
[00:37:19]  Or yeah.
[00:37:20]  Anyway, you're 100% right.
[00:37:22]  The market has lots of ways.
[00:37:23]  And when we say the market, it just means people, really.
[00:37:26]  And people have lots of different ways of kind of figuring out systems to mitigate these risks.
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[00:39:19]  The other thing that really messes them up with the crowdfunding is that they're always trying to pretend like, I mean, prior to the mandates, 50% of the country in America didn't want to get vaccinated.
[00:39:28]  They were pretending like you were crazy lunatic.
[00:39:31]  And then, you know, when pilots seemingly struck, they pretended like it was weather.
[00:39:35]  They always want to pretend like no one shares your opinion and you're crazy and you're fringe.

=== FBI Campaign Scandal (15:23) ===

[00:39:41]  So when 10 million people or $10 million flow in to support something, it kind of messes up their illusion of that they're really representing people's best wishes.
[00:39:51]  Yeah.
[00:39:51]  And you see it with the crackdown on dissonant voices as well.
[00:39:55]  You know, like I was talking about this a few weeks ago on the show, but it was when Justin Trudeau called the movement fringe.
[00:40:02]  But you're like, right.
[00:40:03]  Like you said, like, what is this?
[00:40:04]  What is fringe?
[00:40:06]  Like the people who oppose the COVID regime.
[00:40:09]  I mean, it's like, you know, forget right, like you said that like initially, at least before they were threatened, you know, about 50% of people didn't want to get vaccinated.
[00:40:18]  Even after being threatened, there's still at least 20, 30% who don't want to be.
[00:40:24]  Then, you know, you have like the, you know, whatever we were talking about, like, you know, Rogan and, you know, Elon Musk and like all of these huge figures with huge audiences who are like very skeptical, if not in downright opposition to the whole regime all over the place.
[00:40:45]  And you're like, I don't know, doesn't feel very fringe to me, but this trucker protest really proved how not fringe it was.
[00:40:52]  But it is really, I mean, it's really something too, if you see like, I don't know.
[00:40:57]  You know, I guess we're not everywhere that these protests are happening and we're not witnessing everything that's going on.
[00:41:05]  But you do see videos all over the place on social media of it.
[00:41:10]  And I tell you, it's not videos like the Black Lives Matter fucking thing was.
[00:41:15]  I'm not seeing videos of people getting soccer kicked while they're laying, you know, in a face first in a pool of their own blood.
[00:41:22]  I'm not seeing property get destroyed.
[00:41:24]  I'm not seeing like, I'm not being bombarded with these images.
[00:41:26]  Not to say this hasn't happened at all.
[00:41:29]  I'm just saying it's like, this seems, you look at the videos down there and it's people like playing music and dancing and having fun and just talking.
[00:41:35]  And lots of people like, I've seen lots of interviews with like real smart truckers who are explaining like they know what's up.
[00:41:40]  They know what's going on here.
[00:41:41]  And it's not just the truckers.
[00:41:42]  There seems to be widespread support even amongst the community.
[00:41:45]  It's huge.
[00:41:46]  These huge movers are coming out and having raves.
[00:41:50]  So it's not just the truckers.
[00:41:52]  It's not like it's just some working class or just a specific union looking for benefits.
[00:41:57]  It seems to be pretty widespread that people in Canada, and they're not even necessarily anti-vax.
[00:42:03]  They just look at this and go, this is tyranny.
[00:42:05]  Like we don't want these policies.
[00:42:07]  Yeah.
[00:42:07]  And it's not even like necessarily like it's not necessarily people who are anti-vax.
[00:42:13]  I think you're right.
[00:42:14]  It's people who are anti-tyranny.
[00:42:15]  And I also think it's people who just recognize that the destruction.
[00:42:19]  This is like destroying our society.
[00:42:23]  They don't want that.
[00:42:25]  You know, I heard a lot of people there talking about like, you know, they're just like, yeah, like I got kids and shit, man.
[00:42:30]  I want to like leave them a fucking functioning, prosperous society.
[00:42:34]  This is going to be, this is awful.
[00:42:38]  Anyway, this is an interesting, you know, it's like when you, when you protest the government, this is, it's, it's a bit of a chess match.
[00:42:47]  And this is an interesting new development.
[00:42:51]  It'll be, I don't know, it'll be interesting to see like, is their goal here, which I think is actually possible, is that they might have gotten to a point because you do see a lot of people, at least in the states.
[00:43:05]  And to be clear, this stuff is not completely removed.
[00:43:07]  It's not as if the government of the United States of America and the government of Canada are completely separate entities.
[00:43:12]  You know, actually, in fact, Joe Biden reportedly got on the phone, on the phone with Trudeau and urged him to really crack down on the protests.
[00:43:20]  So that's, you know, if you're in the United States of America.
[00:43:24]  Yeah, right.
[00:43:25]  Well, if you're in the United States of America, that's something to keep in mind that your president is like supporting this.
[00:43:30]  But I do see people all over the place in the United States of America rolling back the mandates and in many cases, really walking back the rhetoric.
[00:43:41]  You know what I mean?
[00:43:42]  Being like, you know, with their own bullshit justification.
[00:43:44]  Oh, the science has changed.
[00:43:45]  And that's why cloth masks don't work.
[00:43:48]  You know, back when the science was different, Rob, they worked.
[00:43:51]  But the science was.
[00:43:52]  It was different six months ago.
[00:43:53]  It was.
[00:43:54]  They can't get that high quality cloth at work.
[00:43:56]  That's right.
[00:43:57]  So all this stuff, you know.
[00:43:59]  But I think it is possible that this could be both things happening at once, that they're like, look, we need to fucking shut down these fucking protests.
[00:44:07]  And then we can maybe walk back some of this shit because we realize we're angering the people too much.
[00:44:12]  And the next time they come protesting, this might get like out of control.
[00:44:15]  Like they might actually make it to the politicians' houses and start pulling them out or something, you know, like that might be a fear.
[00:44:22]  But they can't let it be seen as like the protesters ended this.
[00:44:26]  Like we can't let it be seen as like the people had that much power.
[00:44:28]  It has to be seen as like, no, the government shut this down and then we did the right thing and ended it.
[00:44:32]  Like that is possible.
[00:44:35]  It's also possible that that's not what this is.
[00:44:38]  And it's like, no, we're like, we're squashing this shit so that we can then move to next plan level three, four, five, and really fucking live in some like totalitarian nightmare.
[00:44:51]  But it will be interesting to see if the fucking protests return.
[00:44:56]  You know what I mean?
[00:44:57]  And it does force some type of like real confrontation.
[00:45:00]  We'll see.
[00:45:03]  I have a feeling some people are going to be are going to, you know, have their lives ruined over this shit.
[00:45:11]  So we'll see what happens.
[00:45:14]  All right.
[00:45:15]  Okay.
[00:45:16]  All right.
[00:45:16]  Let's move on just a little bit more.
[00:45:18]  We don't have much more time because I got to run.
[00:45:20]  I got to go record an episode with Malice for his show for your welcome in a second.
[00:45:25]  But I guess let's talk a little bit about the latest in the saga of Russia Gate, Spygate, whatever you want to call it.
[00:45:37]  Isn't it funny that like back in 2017, this was a big thing.
[00:45:44]  And then it came up again in 2019 and in 2020, where Donald Trump would make this accusation that his campaign was spied on, that they spied on him.
[00:45:56]  And the entire corporate press lined up to be like, fact check, false.
[00:46:01]  Donald Trump was not spied on.
[00:46:03]  And you remember this?
[00:46:04]  This was like a big thing.
[00:46:06]  And so anyway, Rob, I don't know.
[00:46:07]  I haven't been keeping up, but if they told us he wasn't spied on, I'm sure I can believe that, right?
[00:46:12]  Absolutely.
[00:46:13]  Corporate press says it.
[00:46:14]  You got to get right behind it.
[00:46:16]  Anything new?
[00:46:16]  Anything new in that department?
[00:46:18]  Oh, all sorts of things are new in that department.
[00:46:21]  So they appointed this guy, Durham, to investigate the investigators, find out how it could be that the deep state managed to claim that our president was a Russian asset and a terrorist, and then keep that story in the corporate media for three years.
[00:46:36]  And so first we found out that the steel dossier, this was earlier on, was worked up by the Clinton campaign and that the FBI was working off of that when they got the wire.
[00:46:49]  I mean, they tapped him, right?
[00:46:51]  And this is when they tapped, excuse me, Carter Page, who they got three FISA warrants for to spy on and claiming that he was a Russian spy.
[00:47:06]  This was the claim that he was working for, not even like the way they acutely use this term Russian asset, but the claim was actually that he's a Russian spy.
[00:47:14]  And we know that they got three FISA court warrants to spy on this guy, who just happened to be an advisor for Trump's Campaign.
[00:47:29]  And let's just say that there's lots of other evidence in there too, not to get too bogged down in the details, but they spied on this guy for that long and he's never been charged with anything.
[00:47:39]  So I think it's pretty safe to say was not a Russian spy.
[00:47:42]  Also, by the way, he was not.
[00:47:44]  And the CIA knew he wasn't.
[00:47:45]  And they told the FBI that they knew this.
[00:47:47]  And the FBI intentionally misled the FISA courts by not only omitting that information, but telling them that the CIA had actually confirmed some of the information that they had.
[00:48:03]  So like in other words, he had met with some Russians who had offered him, had tried to recruit him.
[00:48:08]  And he went back to the CIA and told them that and told them that, hey, these guys are trying to recruit me.
[00:48:13]  What would you like me to do here?
[00:48:14]  Like, because I'm a patriot, you know, I'm not going to betray my country.
[00:48:17]  And the CIA told the FBI, they were like, no, no, no, this guy's not a Russian spy.
[00:48:21]  He came to us and told us when the Russians approached him.
[00:48:23]  And so the FBI took it to the Pfizer court and went, Christopher Steele claims that the Russians approached this guy and the CIA confirms it.
[00:48:32]  Like the most dishonest shit you could imagine to try to make it look like they had confirmed their information when actually they had refuted their information.
[00:48:40]  So anyway, yes, there's that.
[00:48:42]  Okay, keep going.
[00:48:43]  All right.
[00:48:44]  Now, the most recent is Durham is looking into a conflict of interest with an individual who is being paid by the Clinton team and lied to the FBI.
[00:48:55]  And then in addition to that, even though I didn't actually see it in the direct Durham legal briefing, I didn't read the whole thing.
[00:49:00]  I read the first three pages, but they're also claiming that they had actually hacked the servers to try and prove a connection between Trump and I believe like a Russian bank.
[00:49:09]  I think that's the gist of the second half of it.
[00:49:13]  Yeah.
[00:49:14]  So, yes.
[00:49:15]  So they were basically hacking into the servers in Trump towers to try to gather information and to try to like frame them for fucking, you know, like having some type of Russian connections.
[00:49:28]  What's particularly interesting about this story is that they've now like basically conclusively demonstrated that not only, and this is the interest, the really key part here is that not only was Hillary Clinton doing this, working with the intelligence agencies while they were, you know, the Clinton campaign versus the Trump campaign, but even after she lost and he was the president elect, they kept going with it.
[00:49:57]  So even as the guy is like about to be president, they keep going with it.
[00:50:02]  And then of course, we know the history, which we've talked about, you know, for years on the show, is that then essentially the intelligence agencies took it over and ran with it even after he was elected president and continued to base the entire, you know, the entire like core of the narrative that led to Russia, Trump, Russia collusion, Trump, Russia collusion every day for three years was all off that stuff.
[00:50:27]  That was all Clinton, you know, opposition research.
[00:50:32]  It's really like unbelievable.
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[00:51:31]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:51:33]  So, anyway, I thought, you know, just to discuss this kind of briefly, what I thought was kind of interesting.
[00:51:40]  So, Jim Jordan, and we could play just like a few minutes of the video.
[00:51:46]  We got a video of Jim Jordan here who's really kind of like been put forward as the kind of Republican hero for really like speaking out against this stuff.
[00:51:55]  So, anyway, here's a little clip of him on Fox News.
[00:51:59]  Reform Committee.
[00:52:00]  Congressman, thanks for being with us this morning.
[00:52:01]  You've heard the news.
[00:52:02]  What's your reaction?
[00:52:04]  Yep.
[00:52:05]  Well, President Trump was right.
[00:52:07]  Remember back in 2017, well, when President Trump said they were spying on me in the press and all the Democrats said no, they weren't.
[00:52:13]  And then in 2019, then Attorney General Bill Barr said spying took place at the FBI on President Trump's campaign and everyone said no, no, no.
[00:52:22]  Well, now we know for sure.
[00:52:23]  Now we know 100% John Durham's revelation, John Durham's filing here.
[00:52:28]  Yep, there was spying going on and it was worse than we thought because they were spying on the sitting president of the United States and it goes right to the Clinton campaign.
[00:52:38]  So God bless John Durham and his investigation.
[00:52:40]  It's taken a long time, but we're getting to now what we all suspected.
[00:52:43]  The only thing we didn't understand was it was worse than we thought.
[00:52:46]  Congressman, just as a quick follow-up here, I think everyone as they watch this wonders, where will this go?
[00:52:52]  Where will accountability lead us?
[00:52:54]  Who will be held accountable?
[00:52:56]  I got a note a little bit earlier in the show, and I want to run this by you.
[00:52:59]  I don't know if this is directly within your knowledge, but that within federal crimes, there's a five-year statute of limitations.
[00:53:06]  We're talking about stuff now from 2016, 17.
[00:53:09]  Are we already looking at something that has expired in terms of accountability, at least within the justice system?
[00:53:18]  Look, I don't know.
[00:53:19]  Only John Durham knows that.
[00:53:20]  I do know that some of these filings that he's done on Zussman and Danchinko were running up close to that five-year statute of limitations.
[00:53:26]  And we do know this.
[00:53:28]  John Durham is going right back to the start.
[00:53:30]  Understand, the indictment against Zussman wasn't about Zussman lying to John Durham and his investigative team.
[00:53:36]  It was about the original lies, the lies that took place in 2016 when they started this whole concerted effort to go after a presidential campaign.
[00:53:46]  That is what is so frightening here.
[00:53:47]  You had the government working with the Clinton campaign to go after the Republican Party's nominee for president to spy on that campaign.
[00:53:55]  We've never seen anything like this in history.
[00:53:57]  So President Trump's statement yesterday, I think, is right on target.
[00:54:00]  This is truly unprecedented.
[00:54:03]  So we'll stop there because I think you kind of get the gist of it, right?
[00:54:07]  This is what Representative Jim Jordan is saying.
[00:54:10]  And there's nothing really technically wrong with what he's saying.
[00:54:15]  And in fact, if you're coming at it from the position we're in, you're kind of like, yeah, that's all that's all kind of right.
[00:54:20]  And look, this guy's really like articulate and he's really breaking it down and all of this shit.
[00:54:25]  But this is like, from my perspective, this is like a meet your gatekeeper type of situation where you're like, so this is how it's played.
[00:54:35]  This scandal, this is how the game works.
[00:54:37]  This scandal comes out.
[00:54:38]  You know, of course, this was obvious from day one.
[00:54:40]  Me and you were on top of this shit while it was going on.
[00:54:43]  Like this is obvious.
[00:54:45]  But he comes out and goes, well, great job with the investigation.
[00:54:49]  And yeah, it's all come out and we've been proven right.
[00:54:51]  And then even the Fox News host does that, you know, kind of goes, hey, you know, I'm looking into it.
[00:54:55]  And they're like, yeah, the statue of limitations will probably be up by the time we approve any of this stuff.
[00:54:59]  And it's kind of like, yeah, well, you know, that's how it's got.
[00:55:01]  But still, he did a great job.
[00:55:02]  It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, by the way.
[00:55:03]  So no one will pay for this.

=== Building Spying Apparatus (02:57) ===

[00:55:05]  No one will stop it.
[00:55:06]  But here's the bigger problem, the much bigger problem, right?
[00:55:09]  Is that Jim Jordan, like not only voted for, but championed the effort to extend the Patriot Act.
[00:55:18]  And the Republicans had control of the Congress, both the House and the Senate, and they had Trump in the White House.
[00:55:25]  They all supported expanding NSA spying capabilities.
[00:55:29]  Trump signed it into law, expanding the Patriot Act or all the key provisions of the Patriot Act under another name, you know, whatever.
[00:55:36]  The point is, they allowed government to have this power.
[00:55:39]  And then they turn around and they go, oh my God, it's so outrageous that it happened to the president we like.
[00:55:44]  You know, this is kind of the issue.
[00:55:47]  It's like, what do you think?
[00:55:49]  Like, I don't know if you, this is how it always happens.
[00:55:52]  Like, you know, the, I remember like reading about the Nazis had this crazy fucking like government spying apparatus.
[00:56:03]  And of course, all the like secret police and everything like that.
[00:56:06]  And it was constantly being used by people within the Nazi regime who were enemies with each other against each other.
[00:56:13]  It was constantly being used to like knock this guy out of the way and gain more favor with Hitler and take over his position and blah, blah, blah, all of this stuff.
[00:56:22]  So that's that's the way it works.
[00:56:23]  It's like, yeah, you build up this government spying apparatus.
[00:56:27]  Yeah, you better not let that get in the hands of your political enemies.
[00:56:31]  What do you think?
[00:56:31]  Like, do you really think you could build up the largest spying apparatus in the history of the world?
[00:56:36]  And then you could have like two people competing for the most power, you know, like that any human beings ever had.
[00:56:45]  And no one's ever going to weaponize this thing against each other and this like power competition.
[00:56:50]  So this is where, this is what like libertarians get that Republicans really don't fucking get, which is like really like, it becomes this like self-defeating thing.
[00:56:59]  So Jim Jordan tweeted, he said this.
[00:57:02]  I thought this was kind of revealing in a way.
[00:57:04]  He said, this is his tweet.
[00:57:06]  He said, and he tweeted this.
[00:57:08]  Let's see, when was this?
[00:57:09]  It was earlier today.
[00:57:11]  He tweeted, if they can spy on a sitting United States president, they can spy on anyone.
[00:57:20]  I just found that to be so interesting because it's like he gets it completely wrong.
[00:57:26]  It's not, oh, if they could spy on the president, well, then they can spy on anyone.
[00:57:30]  But that's not the lesson of all of this.
[00:57:32]  The lesson is if they can spy on anyone, they can spy on the president.
[00:57:38]  You know what I'm saying?
[00:57:39]  Like, that's the point.
[00:57:40]  It's like, no, we start first came the spying on anyone.
[00:57:44]  Then came the spying on the president.
[00:57:46]  It's not like, oh, they spied on President Trump.
[00:57:48]  So now we have this huge spying apparatus.
[00:57:50]  It's like, no, we built up this large spying apparatus.
[00:57:53]  And then eventually, when there was a presidential candidate who was running like in opposition to the whole establishment, then they used it to spy on him.

=== Presidential Surveillance Risks (00:54) ===

[00:58:02]  You've got to completely backward.
[00:58:04]  It's not like, oh my God, well, if this could happen to Trump, this could happen to any one of us.
[00:58:08]  The point is this could happen to any one of us.
[00:58:10]  And then it actually happened in a way that you never thought possible, Republicans, that actually your sitting president could be spied on.
[00:58:17]  So that's why these guys like Jim Jordan, where they sound really nice in these sound bites, in reality, they end up being useless because they just don't get it.
[00:58:27]  If you actually wanted to do something that mattered, you should oppose the governments having this spying power always.
[00:58:33]  Maybe that could make a fucking difference.
[00:58:37]  All right.
[00:58:38]  Got to wrap up there.
[00:58:39]  Got to go record your welcome.
[00:58:41]  Another great episode.
[00:58:42]  Go check out Robbie.
[00:58:43]  Run your mouth.
[00:58:44]  You're putting all types of content out online.
[00:58:46]  Yeah, we're daily every morning, 10 a.m., going live Eastern.
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[00:58:52]  Check it out.
[00:58:53]  Fuck yeah, dude.
[00:58:54]  All right.
[00:58:54]  Talk to you guys soon.
[00:58:56]  Pace.