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Oct. 26, 2021 - Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith
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The Problem With John Stewart

James Smith and Robbie the Fire Bernstein critique Jon Stewart's new show, arguing his comparison of pandemic mandates to Nazi Germany is factually lazy and ignores real economic devastation. They contend that misclassified deaths, addiction, and lost livelihoods caused more harm than restrictions, while rejecting the idea that virus prevention measures equate to totalitarianism. Ultimately, the hosts assert that data-backed safety measures differ fundamentally from Hitler's regime, challenging Stewart's dismissal of genuine public suffering and government overreach risks. [Automatically generated summary]

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Here's your host, James Smith.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
Thrilled to be joined once again by the yin to my yang, the tails to my head, something less gay than those two.
Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
What's up?
How are you, my brother?
I'm doing well.
Crypto's up at 60.
I sold out.
I redecorated my apartment.
I'm doing great in life.
You did.
You bought yourself a nice wicker chair, I see, uh, behind you.
This is everything I ever wanted.
White wall and a wicker chair.
This is living, baby.
I really do feel like if you just made like $10 million, those are the type of things you'd be like, you'd be talking to your money manager and you'd be like, Can I afford a wicker chair?
So you can afford you have $10 million.
And you're like, so yes, on the wicker chair?
Okay, I'm going to pull the trigger and buy this wicker chair.
Get it over here.
Well, I'm glad to be back doing another show with you.
And I'm glad for a whole lot of things these days, even though I got a little bit more gray in the old beard.
I'm a happy man these days.
Although I was saddened to see that my brother, Reed Coverdale, got booted off Twitter.
And Reed Coverdale is great, by the way.
He's been on the show before, and I've been on his show.
I've been on his show several times.
So yeah, he got booted on Twitter over some bullshit, like the fucking silliest joke, and they threw him off for it.
So it was something like, I think someone was like messing like it was like a parody account that they were joking back and forth with.
And he was like, I'm going to come take your truck.
And he was like, you come a thousand yards within my truck and I'll shoot you.
You know, just like joking around.
And they were like, that's a threat of violence or something like that.
So stupid, like the dumbest shit ever.
But anyway, Reed's great and he puts out a great show with great content.
And so go, since he's off Twitter, go subscribe to him if you don't mind on YouTube, The Naturalist Capitalist.
Go check that out.
You won't regret it.
It's an excellent show.
Let's support people who get censored off some of these big tech platforms.
And I say that out of pure self-interest because I hope some other people will say that when we inevitably get kicked off all of these.
I can't lose Twitter now.
I can't.
It means too much to me.
It's a weird thing, right?
It's a weird thing, too.
Like, I almost feel like, you know, like there's a lot of people who have these accounts and they start building up a following on them and they just they're saying like all this crazy edgy shit.
And I almost, I almost feel bad.
Like maybe I should have said something to read before because I thought this a couple times with him where I was like, dude, like, look, I don't care.
If you just, if you have your job and you do, and you don't give a fuck, and you're like, whatever, I just want to say edgy shit until I get kicked off.
Fine.
And look, we may all get kicked off.
I might get kicked off every one of these things any day now.
Believe me, I'm more than aware that that's a possibility.
But if you value having that reach and being able to talk to all of your people, as much as it sucks to say, you're like, look, this is the game now.
And these things are not for just like you will get yourself kicked off of there if you start to gain a bit of a following and just say like wild shit.
So you almost have to pick and choose every time.
What's really worth it to you to say?
I'm, I, I'm a little dumber than you are.
And to me, the thrill of the game is just saying what's on your mind.
And so if that means I can't do it on Twitter, I mean, it sucks because now I have a lot of fun with Twitter.
I tweet jokes as I'm reading the newspaper.
It's not quite stand-up, but you get that instant gratification of if people liked it, there were some things that if there's something there that you could maybe take to stage for sure.
Yeah.
So I really, I really do enjoy Twitter and it would be a loss, but the thrill of it is talking your mind.
So if I can't do it there, then well, I'll figure something else out.
Well, it's all, we all have this thing that's like a weird internal balancing act.
And this is the awful thing about the like the censorship regime, you know, is like you have to make this fucking weird deal where you're like, okay, look, there are all of us probably have a few things that we'd like to say.
And we go, all right, I'll pull back on that.
But then you also hit a point where you're like, well, if I pull back on all the shit, then what's the point of me even doing this?
Like, I, then I'm just like, what, you know, like, what's let's not pretend like I didn't already sacrifice talking about gays and black people.
So I've already made my sacrifice.
That was pretty gigantic.
So much.
So much.
And you're literally after all that, you're still going to ask for more.
I can't, we can't be cool at this point.
But there is something to it where it's like, you really do like, it's, man, it's a really effective way to box you in to the fucking thing.
And it's very easy to convince you.
Like, it's like the evil of the whole system.
And I'm sure I could see, like, just on my little, you know, level, I feel this already.
So I could just imagine how people on a much bigger level of like actual power could feel this way.
But where you're like, well, if you just play this game, then you could keep advancing and then you got a chance to really do what you want to do, you know?
But then it's like, okay, you sacrifice that.
And then the next step, it's like, well, okay, more sacrifice and more sacrifice and more.
And then by the time you get there, you're like, oh, but I've sacrificed so much now.
I can't even do what I wanted to do.
This isn't even what I started for.
So, you know, I don't know what the answer is.
But at the same time, you know, like the purest in me wants to say the answer is you say whatever the fuck you want to fuck them.
And that's it.
Just say that.
But then I'll see someone like Reed, who had like 20,000 followers just get booted.
And you're like, oh, well, that sucks.
There's nothing good about that.
It's not good that you, you used to be able to reach all these people and now you can't.
Yeah.
You know, I was, I was saying, whatever it was, someone, you know, some idiot on Twitter was calling me alt-right or something like that.
And then someone shared like a real old tweet of mine.
It was from like years ago, maybe like four years ago, where I was just trashing the alt-right when the alt-right was kind of a thing.
Like it was, it was, uh, I was trashing one of the guys, or I was arguing with one of the guys who was at Charlottesville, like one of those real, real deal alt-right guys.
And we, we went back and forth a little bit and we were like talking shit to each other.
And I, they shared the tweet.
You know, it's like a tweet from 2017 or whatever.
And I was looking at the tweet and you go down, there's like all these comments, you know, down it.
And it's like a Twitter graveyard.
It's just all these comments and it's like, this account has been suspended.
This account has been suspended.
This account has been suspended.
Like all these people just kicked off.
And so it was an interesting thing to see that.
And you're like, oh, wow, they're all just, they're all just booted.
I mean, that person still exists.
You know what I mean?
Like they're still somewhere, but they ain't tweeting no more.
Like they can just remove you from the conversation and then the conversation proceeds on without you.
And by the way, I was arguing with these people.
I don't agree with them.
But even seeing that, like, I just don't, I never root for people to be censored.
I'd rather, I feel like if that's the only way you can win, then you don't really win.
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You, you have to like have, I don't know.
I know there's some of these people, I really feel like they have no honor if that's what they want.
Their enemy is to just be censored and not to like actually win the battle with them.
Lucky for us, Trump is now building a social media platform.
And so I'm sure it'll be the greatest, the greatest social media platform ever.
And we'll be able to say whatever the fuck we want.
I really don't think so.
That's my honest guess.
It's great at executing.
I like that wall.
I like the plot you made.
We're going to be good.
Yeah, right.
All right.
There you go.
It'll be like gold plated and empty on the inside.
It's like everything Trump's down for.
You know what else you fright for free speech, Davey Smith?
You go to robbythefire.com slash shows and you come to my one of the end of the year specials.
And that's how you.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
Oh, by the way, you're going to be at SkankFest, right, Rob?
Hell yeah, I am.
All right.
So, you know, we're doing a fucking event.
I'm coming.
I made it.
I made it happen.
I'm coming to SkankFest.
We're going to do a live part of the problem.
It's going to be pay-per-view.
So it's not exactly a part of the problem episode.
It's not going to air on the regular RSS feed or on YouTube or any of that.
It's going to be like a live from SkankFest, part of the problem, exclusive event.
We're going to do a fucking big thing for it.
I got a few ideas in the works.
This is going to be awesome.
It's at momenthouse.com or I'm sorry, the website is momenthouse.com slash SkankFest.
That's where you have to go.
You can order all of the, there's a whole bunch of events, but that's where you can go.
You can specifically order our event there.
We're going to do a huge thing.
This is, believe me, you're not going to regret ordering this thing.
We're going to do something fucking big.
So I got a lot of ideas planned and this is going to be really cool.
So make sure you check that out, momenthouse.com slash SkankFest.
We're going to have some fun there.
And I'm really glad I'm able to make it happen because it looked there for a little bit like it wasn't going to make it happen, but everything's going good at home.
So we will do that.
I got some pitches for you on that.
We'll have a meeting.
Okay, absolutely.
There you go.
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Okay, so let's start getting into it.
So you sent me this clip the other day, and I thought it was something that we really should, we should talk about here on the show because on a lot of different levels, it was just something worth worth breaking down.
Collective Action vs Freedom 00:10:30
And this is, so evidently, I didn't know this, but Jon Stewart has a new show.
And it's called The Problem, son of a bitch.
Anyway, he's not competing with us, though, because he's both not funny or accurate.
So we should be okay.
I got to say, man, it's weird.
This is a thing about our modern era, like where we are in 2021 or whatever.
And I feel like I know I'm not the first one to make this use this like analogy or present this idea, but it feels like almost like you're in one of those movies where there's like time travel and you're in the future that wasn't supposed to be.
You know what I mean?
Like something went wrong and now you're in this like, you're thrown off into this other, you know, like trajectory that isn't what the future is supposed to be.
Well, Corona just turned a lot of people not funny.
But even before that, even before Corona, it was like, you know, Trump and wokeism and then Corona just fucking was the nail in the coffin.
But all these people, it's like you're not allowed to have heroes anymore.
Like all the people you once respected, you now just see humiliating themselves.
And anyway, I've always had a lot of respect for Jon Stewart.
I do think Jon Stewart is a really funny comedian.
I thought The Daily Show was a great, I thought his thing on Colbert recently with the lab leak stuff was really great, even though you did fairly criticize it for being late.
But hey, whatever, you know, at least he did it better late than never.
But so you sent me this clip and it's a video titled The Problem with Freedom, which almost seems like you were trying to make a Bizarro Dave video.
And this was literally like, I mean, obviously it's not about me and he's not thinking about me, but if he was, he couldn't have been doing anything, you know, more than this.
But anyway, so I started playing this.
I only played like the first two minutes of it.
I think it's like five or six minutes.
And I couldn't get through anymore.
But I was like, you know what?
We'll get through the whole thing together.
So I have seen the beginning of it, but let's play it and respond to it and just marvel at the insanity.
Individual freedom requires collective action.
And a collective is a group.
But if every sacrifice for the group is viewed as oppression, then we lose the ability to preserve your individual freedom.
All right, let's pause it already.
Let's pause it already.
What an amazing word salad of goobly gook.
So individual freedom requires collective action.
But if all collective action is viewed as oppression, then we lose the ability to preserve individual freedom.
All right.
First of all, let me just say the idea that after the last 18, 19 months, whatever it's been, like of all the things, Jon Stewart, you want to go after, it's freedom.
We just, someone's really got to take freedom down a peg.
You know, like, let's, let's really make fun of freedom after a year and a half plus of what?
Lockdowns and riots and mandates and restrictions and vaccine passports and vaccine mandates.
And yeah, you know, the real problem is just too much goddamn individual liberty in this country.
Too much of people doing whatever they want to.
Well, anyway, what can you say about that?
You know, all these words are used so loosely that you're so vague with how you're defining them that they become kind of meaningless.
And it's like, what the fuck are you even talking about?
What do you mean by freedom?
And what do you mean by collective action?
You know, like, what's sacrifice for the collective?
I mean, what's collective action?
Is me and you doing this show together, collective action?
I mean, there's like, let's say this, right?
You have a, like, we're doing this podcast at night.
We're recording at night.
And you have a flight at, I believe, five in the morning tonight.
And I was like, hey, can we record tonight?
And you were like, yeah, I can do it, but let's try to make it not that late because I got a flight at five in the morning.
So you're kind of sacrificing in a way for the collective.
You know, the show is me and you.
And of course, our producer, Brian.
We got a lot of people who listen to the show, a lot of people who count on it.
There's advertisers.
There's other people.
There's a whole gas digital network involved.
So you're like, look, yeah, it's kind of a little bit annoying for me to do the show at night, but I'll sacrifice that for the collective.
Now, we don't view that as oppression, right?
Because you could have said no.
Like you, you know, you had the freedom to say no, but you were like, ah, okay, fine.
I'll do this.
So there's kind of a difference between working together.
Like this is always, if you ever want to know when anyone's ever making a real bullshit argument against freedom, like just the lowest level of like pathetic strawmanning nonsense argument, it's when they start going, so you're against working together with people.
Or you just want to live by yourself on an island in the woods or whatever.
Like, yeah, no one's, no one's against that.
I'm just saying it's like, no, it's not oppressive for me to be like, hey, Rob, could, could we please bang this episode out tonight?
I'm sorry.
I know you got to get up early in the morning.
Or if I were to go, Rob, I will shoot you if you don't record this episode tonight.
There's a little different.
So the element of whether like a threat of violence or force is used, that's kind of the difference over whether this collective action is oppressive or not.
That's what the people who believe in freedom are saying.
And it's like, if like I've been saying this for fucking years, this like goes back to my roots, but like if we're so wrong and you want to satirize us and make fun of us and debunk us and all this shit, if we're so wrong, why can't you ever take on what we're actually saying?
Because we're not saying working together is bad.
A bunch of people doing something together is bullshit and oppressive.
Everyone, every libertarian works with other people.
That's anyway, I don't know anything about that.
If anything, they try and pretend that their vision is what freedom is because they know that freedom is good.
They know that we all inherently understand the value of it and want it.
And so they have to create these double speak distortions as if it relies on something that it doesn't.
And I remember I read this piece years ago from George Reisman about gun control.
And I mean, this is one of foundational liberty arguments that I really took to is look at the deaths from governments, right, against individuals for the collective good.
That is the biggest risk.
It's like they keep pretending that violating individual right.
Like, no, that's the biggest risk factor.
If we give up on this idea that people should have individual rights, that's when you're going to have massive death.
That is the biggest risk factor to people's lives.
Like, if you look at global deaths over human history, it's governments against their people.
Yeah.
No, that's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
Like, who is it to say, why does it just get to be assumed that the people who claim they care about the collective good are actually working toward the collective good?
Where's the empirical evidence on that?
I mean, the people who most loudly proclaimed that they were, you know, most driven and, you know, like inspired by working for the collective good have been the ones who have been the most harmful for the collective good, whether you're talking about the commies or the Nazis or whoever you want to talk about, the most collectivists always end up destroying the collective.
And I think you can make a strong argument that the most individualists always end up doing the best for the collective.
So like, where does this come from?
Where is the conflict between that?
It's always like this, this is like a thing that you see on the left all the time, where there's this kind of assumption that there's this conflict between groups that they're between individuals and groups or between different individuals or all that that is not given.
Like think about it in your real life.
Is there a real conflict between you and your friends getting together and doing something?
Or like, you know, men and women, is there a real conflict between men and women or do we both help each other?
Is there a real conflict between the races, between all of this?
I mean, like, I'm not saying there never is, but it's not a given.
And it's not a given at all that there's any conflict between individual liberty and the, and, and a group of people doing something.
In fact, the, the, I think the best thing humanity can have is when a group of people are doing something together voluntarily.
So all of that, literally all of that meant nothing, that you can't have, you can't have individual liberty without collective action.
Well, okay, I mean, to some degree, that's true, but only if it's voluntary.
Otherwise, you don't have individual liberty.
So yes, there is some truth to the fact that like you're probably not going to be able to protect your individual liberty without a group of people because probably someone will come violate it unless you have, you know, more than one person alone.
But if you're, if, if it's done by force, then you don't have any individual liberty anyway to be protected.
All right.
And the freedom element is where all of a sudden all these beautiful rules of economics kick in of specialization, of people working together, the price systems.
There's a lot of beauty within the system of people being able to make their own choices that actually leads to collective action that is the accumulation of everyone's freedom and choices.
So it's the outcome that people actually want.
Look at the corona.
We've got like, they want the, fine.
And also, the way I understand it, prior to the mandates, 50% of people that were eligible to get vaccinated chose not to be vaccinated.
So why does that 50% have to make a sacrifice for the choices of the other 50%?
Like, why, why, why is it just the thing that you understand gets to get imposed on the other group of people?
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Yeah.
No, absolutely.
That's right.
I mean, and of course, yeah, if you really want to go down this route, it's like, yeah, if we enslaved 20% of the people, then they'd be making a sacrifice for the greater good of the collective.
But that'd be pretty goddamn anti-freedom, don't you think?
You know, so there, there you go.
All right, let's keep playing.
So, I ask you again: masks, vaccines, please.
The Hitler of the Golden State, Gavin Newsom, gives the orders, wear a mask, stay inside, don't travel, socialist Democrat Gestapo going door to door, house by house, trying to stick syringes in people's arms.
You're forcing people to wear masks?
They were forced to wear a star using a Sharpie to brand students with a number to distinguish the unvaccinated from the vaccinated.
A prom should never inspire images in my mind of Auschwitz.
Agreed.
Auschwitz is a terrible prom theme.
All right, can I just pause?
Here's a longer version I saw.
Even that joke's better than the version I saw.
That joke's okay.
Well, here, but here's the thing.
It's not terrible, but here's why this misses.
And this is what's sad.
All right.
So it's kind of like Jon Stewart is coming back.
And I believe Jon Stewart left the Daily Show in 2015, but his heyday in the Daily Show was really like through the Bush administration.
And that's really where he like fucking made his name.
He was great.
He was so fucking great, just tearing apart the Bush administration.
It was a great time to be a liberal comedian, you know?
And the thing that's sad about this, because Jon Stewart really is like, as a comedian, he's kind of like one of my heroes.
He's one of the best like political comedians of the, you know, the last 20 years.
But the thing that's sad is that it's kind of like he's coming back and trying to do comedy like it's 2019.
You know, like it, it's just like, yeah, it just misses, dude.
You're just not.
Yeah, look, I know you could play like three clips of like not the most articulate right wingers comparing shit to the Holocaust or the Gestapo or whatever.
Look at what's been going on for the last year and a half, man.
Like I, it's not as if like, okay, as I argued with that, that rabbi, you know, it's like, okay, yeah, I know it's a little bit lazy to compare things to the Holocaust and not everything's the Nazis.
Not everything's the Holocaust.
But look, the truth is that's kind of the thing.
And, you know, it's like, there's a reason why Seinfeld called it the soup Nazi and why, you know, I literally was texting with my mom earlier today.
My mother was on an Amtrak and she texted me and I tried to call her back and she texted me, oh, I can't answer because I'm on the quiet car.
And she goes, and the conductor's being a real Nazi about talking on the phone.
You know, that's just, that's kind of how people talk.
It's their view.
The Nazi is just the thing to say.
So, okay, yeah.
Is it a little bit lazy and not the most accurate thing?
All right, fine.
But we're talking about some pretty wild shit that's happened since the COVID regime has been in.
And to just see people making a big deal about that and then try to downplay it, it just, it just rings like someone in the 90s was comparing something to the Nazis and you're like, all right, relax, Republican.
Like, you know, oh, what are you so worried about, Snoop Doggy Dog?
Oh, calm down.
Everything's fine.
The guy, even in the clip he plays where he's like, a prom theme shouldn't remind me of Auschwitz.
And John Stewart's like, no, it shouldn't.
Like he was talking about, he said, well, I don't know the story.
Maybe this isn't true.
He said people were being marked on their arms, vaccinated or unvaccinated.
Is the like that's the angle that you want to make a joke about?
It's like, and then people are overreacting to this.
Like, no, dude, that's pretty fucking crazy.
So you can come in here with your like 2004 energy of like, oh man, look at these guys making a big deal over nothing.
It's like, I don't know, dude.
That is pretty fucking wild.
So here you have students who were literally for what in America, a full year kicked out of school and sitting in front of a computer doing virtual learning, then have been coming in masked up the entire time.
And now they're being marked on their arms for a prom.
Yeah, that's pretty creepy.
I'll side with the person being like, hey, what the fuck's going on here over the person mocking you for saying what the fuck's going on here any day of the week.
And just to see, I'll tell you, it's like, it's painful.
This is what I hate about this fucking culture.
It's like, there's no heroes.
And people, men particularly, need heroes.
They need leaders and great men to be inspired by.
And people can downplay that all they want to and be like, oh, you know, you don't want to like hero worship.
You want to be your own person.
It's like, no, fuck that.
Great men should be revered.
And it's painful when like you look at someone like Jon Stewart.
You're the guy who would call out the media.
You'd call out the president for lying us into wars.
You'd go on crossfire and call them out for being full of shit and all this.
And it's like, and now you're sitting there going, masks, vaccines, please.
That's all you've got?
Just repeat the narrative.
How about this?
Instead of saying, please, give me a reason.
Give me something.
Like convince me.
I'm listening.
Jon Stewart has my ear.
He always has my ear.
But what do you have to say?
I don't know.
Anything, Rob?
I think you're missing the point that kids are dying out.
And, you know, there's just fields of kids that are dying on a daily basis.
And they're putting old people at risk by getting robust immunity from actually getting the virus as opposed to the vaccine, which only protects against current variants and might even force the thing to mutate.
So this has been a winning strategy from the beginning.
And we need children to endlessly make sacrifices to their lives on account of the old people who I don't think are now giving up their social security or other life benefits that they had to give back to the younger generation that they're asking to make sacrifices for them.
But we all, we're all in this together and we all just need to make sacrifices for other people.
But it's just coming from.
Yep.
No, you're absolutely.
Listen, just on the fucking obesity rate amongst children, which has gone up, was it double digits that's gone up in the last year?
Just on that, there's been more damage done to kids than COVID with no vaccines and no masks has could have ever done to kids.
Not to mention, you know, child abuse and depression and suicide and all this other shit.
Forget all that.
People are bored at home and so they're just beating up their kids.
Well, no, the child, the child obesity has skyrocketed over the last year.
And yeah, I don't know.
I mean, like, or maybe it's over the last year and a half.
I, you know, whatever since the COVID period.
But yeah, I don't know.
I mean, dude, they literally, if you remember, because it's hard to even think back to like, it's so, this is the thing is we're so lost in the moment of now and what the crazy thing right now is that's happening that if you just rewind the tape a little bit, you forget how crazy it was that like there was actually like in March and April of 2020 where they shut down playgrounds.
I mean, they really like were trying to convince children to stay inside.
This was following the science back then.
Stay inside, kids.
Like, this was, you know, and then if you think about just like a year of virtual learning, they're not going to school.
They're not hanging out with friends, all of this.
And yeah, probably eating like shit at home.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly what caused it, but that in itself has been way more devastating to kids.
And anyway, whatever.
And marking them on their hand is pretty fucking weird.
By the way, I don't even know if that story is right or not, but Jon Stewart doesn't even seem to be questioning whether it's right.
How weird would it be like if you like to hear that story to hear they're doing a prom where they're marking children based on vaccination status?
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And your response to it isn't like, it'd be one thing if you broke it down and it's like, no, that's not what the story was.
They weren't really doing that.
This is, you know, a fake story.
But he just goes, oh, yeah, no, you really shouldn't think of Auschwitz with a prom.
That's a pretty bad prom theme.
Like, all right, dude.
Okay.
It's, it literally has the, it has the, to make a Nazi comparison, fine.
It feels like you're being loaded onto a boxcar and someone's like, they're going to kill all of us.
And you're like, okay, buddy, they're going to kill all of us.
Sure.
Like, okay, like, yeah, maybe we're not there yet, but like, I don't know.
It's enough that like, really, you're going to attack someone for hyperbole?
That's, that's where you're at in this crazy moment.
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Ah, a crystal knock to remember.
But I see the problem.
You think the government taking public safety measures to combat COVID is like Hitler.
And we think COVID is like Hitler.
And so it looks like we got ourselves a good old-fashioned Hitler off.
So once again, we pause for a second.
What?
So I get the framework.
I also work in a similar market where I might cherry pick information more on Run Your Mouth than on this show and then lead it into a joke.
Nobody would be, well, I wouldn't say nobody.
If the government was taking public safety measures that was backed by good data and science and was proven true.
And there was an actual pandemic that there were millions of people, we might actually go, hey, it makes sense.
The actions that they're taking make sense.
And you and I, as the far extreme libertarians, might say we still don't like that they are violating freedom, but we might at least admit that the policy makes sense.
This is not that.
The virus is not deadly to certain groups.
This policy has never made sense.
They haven't done anybody any favors.
These vaccines might turn out to have side effects.
And there's definitely been negative externalities from all the policies that they taken.
So the claim here is not that people are against, or for most normal people, the claim is not, hey, we're against government policies.
It's we're against being lied to and forced to take something that doesn't have good evidence.
Yeah.
So just to be clear, what he's saying here is that, okay, so you guys think the government taking action to prevent people dying from COVID is Hitler.
Well, no, what we're saying is that all of these government actions have done nothing to prevent COVID and that they're destroying everything.
And if anyone's saying something's like Hitler, what we're comparing is government consolidation of power, suspending of the Bill of Rights, suspending of any sense of individual liberty and declaring totalitarian rule by pure fiat edict is comparable to totalitarian regimes.
Like, say, Joe Biden just saying companies with over 100 people have to fire people who aren't vaccinated or tested.
Like, where in the Constitution does he get this authority?
What law did Congress pass to?
No, nothing.
He just says so.
Well, OSHA's going to do it.
Or governor is just saying, oh, you can't go to church.
You can't go to your dad's funeral.
You can't go to work if you're deemed non-essential.
This is what we're comparing.
It's not saying, oh, someone doing something to prevent a virus.
That's not it.
Our point is that lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, all of these things have never been demonstrated to do anything to mitigate the virus.
And they are destroying everything about the way of life in America.
That's the point that we're making.
Did you see the movie Death to Stalin?
No, heard great things, though.
You would like it.
So I believe that it's based off of a true historical event that happened that basically Stalin got sick and needed a doctor, but Stalin had gotten rid of all the doctors.
And so he wasn't able to get the medical treatment he needed.
I don't know why Stalin got rid of the doctors.
You may know.
He was paranoid and thought they were all going to kill him or something like that, probably.
I don't know.
You know more history than I do.
But I look at what's going on now with firing doctors or let's just call them healthcare professionals.
And certainly nurse practitioners.
I don't know how many doctors are being forced out of their jobs, but we certainly have healthcare professionals being fired from their jobs because even healthcare professionals can't make their own evaluation about whether or not they want to take new vaccines.
But there will be incidents, I promise you, in the future of people that did not get care that they needed.
And we're doing that because we like it we're not really care.
We're not caring about the health.
There's going to be good doctors that are no longer practicing for a period of time because they were forced out of their jobs.
That will happen.
Right.
And they're doing that because they care more about protecting this idea that their policy is right than they actually do about giving out the care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's right.
All right.
So let's keep playing.
You're off.
So once and for all, let's find out.
What?
More Hitler.
Oh, wait.
I believe you were supposed to chant that with me.
So we're going to try that again.
What?
More Hitler!
By the way, do you think that's how Hitler started?
They really like chanting the name Hitler.
All right.
Shit's getting dark fast, isn't it?
Here's how it's going to go.
You got your Hitler on the left there, and then you got your COVID and your COVID prevention methods.
Which one will resemble Hitler more?
First up, let's deal with body count.
COVID's killed nearly 5 million people.
Masks?
Nobody.
Vaccines?
I don't know.
Three?
Let's say 100.
You know what?
I'll spot you with thousand.
Clearly, on the issue of body count, COVID is the Hitler on this one.
Point for COVID.
Quick pause.
Sure.
All right.
Okay.
So the guy should be doing more of his homework.
If he wants to quote the death numbers, you can at least go with the VERE numbers, which I would say are underestimated.
According to VARES, it's not a good enough reporting system for us to rely on.
I believe it floats around 15 or 16,000 at this time.
Now understand that the government, that means, has put out a vaccine, said that its reporting system is not reliable and yet has some sort of a way of determining whether or not it's dangerous in application.
Fine.
But don't say 1,000 days.
I don't want to be like misleading on this either.
Look, like tens of millions of people have taken this vaccine.
And so you can make the argument that you're like, well, okay, these numbers are still keep them in perspective and it's not that many.
But to say one, a hundred, a thousand.
No, this is not accurate.
I mean, let's have an honest conversation.
The other thing is just that like to sit here and I don't know.
I guess this is why it's like, I don't mean to just dissect a joke and tell you what's not right about it.
Like jokes don't always have to be completely accurate to be funny, but they also have to be somewhat based on reality.
Otherwise it does lose its whole thing, like especially political comedy like this.
And again, it's just like you're comparing a virus to government policies and saying, what's more like Hitler?
Well, hey, John Stewart, here's one thing.
Ding, ding, ding.
Hitler ran a government.
Ooh, that's more Hitler.
Ooh, Hitler was an authoritarian government and not a virus.
Ding, COVID regime wins that one, right?
This is the most like blatant, retarded apples to oranges comparison ever.
Like no one's on the side of COVID.
By the way, you know what Hitler referred to the Jews as?
A virus.
Ding, Oh, yeah.
Look there.
The COVID regime is a lot more like Hitler than people advocating freedom.
Oh, here's another thing.
Hitler didn't advocate freedom.
Ding, Like, what the fuck are we doing here?
No one's on team COVID.
No one's supporting a fucking virus that, by the way, was quite likely started from a lab that was being funded by the NIH potentially to develop that virus, as you, Jon Stewart, pointed out on the Colbert show just a couple months ago.
So like This is all just so stupid.
Like, if you wanted to be honest here, right?
Like, here's the comparison.
If you want to play your what's more Hitler game, which evidently, you know, it's funny because they always like, you know, it's, I see this sometimes with the fucking like the goddamn dorks in the Libertarian Party, like the 14 of them that call me a Nazi every day on Twitter and all this shit.
But then they'll be really offended when the Libertarian Party of Kentucky compares vaccine passports to the yellow stars.
Like, you can't make Nazi comparisons, but then they compare, they call me a Nazi or call all these other people.
So they're okay with Nazi comparisons, just only when they like them.
So Jon Stewart starts by mocking this guy, comparing the prom thing to Auschwitz, right?
But then he's going to do a whole who's more Hitler game, and that's fine, you know, like that.
But okay, if we're doing this game, let's make it an honest thing.
Let's make it an apples to apples comparison and not this ridiculous who's on team virus versus who's on team, how the government has responded to this virus.
Let's just make it who's on team, how the government has responded to this virus versus who's on team, how we would have liked the government to respond to this virus.
Now we're talking about two government policies.
Okay.
So now here's the okay.
Here's the COVID regime.
The government can suspend your right to travel, work, and participate in society whenever they want to.
I say they can't.
Ding, ding, ding.
Who won that round?
Who's more Hitler?
Right?
Like, this is just so fucking retarded.
And like, I don't know.
It's not that I always agreed with Jon Stewart's politics, but he'd be funny.
And at least there'd be a kernel of truth to what he was saying.
This is just like, it's like fucking pathetic.
Like, it gives you the vibe that like some, no, I don't think this is true, but it almost feels like there's some powerful person at like the Council on Foreign Relations or the CIA or something who's got like some dirt on Jon Stewart.
And they're like, we are forcing you to come out of retirement and carry our water.
And he's just like, all right, I'll come out and do this.
And he's just half like half-assing it with his heart not into it.
I think people have just so bought into their idiots that support Trump and just don't believe real information that they're convinced that people are just being dumb here and they haven't.
I don't think that's really what's happening.
I'm just saying it feels like that.
Like if that were to happen, it would have the same outcome.
To just further mention the homework he hasn't done, we already know that 50% of recorded hospitalizations turned out not to be COVID related.
A lot of these COVID-reported deaths are going to turn out to have been other diseases.
People that, in other words, they had COVID in their system.
That's not what they died of.
And it got recorded as a COVID death.
So that 5 million number, I'm sure at some juncture in time will turn out to be a different number.
The other thing that you're not looking at when we look at government policies leading to death, for one, we know that there have been diagnoses that have been missed.
We know that addiction deaths have been up.
As you mentioned, I mean, half the country doesn't want to work anymore.
And like you said, childhood obesity rates.
I know personally from the months I was at home, I wasn't living as healthy of a lifestyle, but luckily I had comedy, a job, able to get back into a rhythm pretty quickly.
And I mostly ignore the COVID stuff.
How many people haven't really gotten out of that funk that are going to take a couple of years off their lives because of bad habits?
How many people lost their business that are never going to quite bounce back and might be drinking for the next 10 years as a result of what happened to them?
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These government policies.
Some of us were already drinking and we were ready for this.
I'm just saying these government policies absolutely are going to cause death.
And you're really just looking at, you're just not, you're just not doing your homework.
It's already caused deaths.
Doctors have already talked about, you know, the most obvious examples are going to be addiction deaths being up and missed cancer diet, like or mistreatments in general.
That's going to be your most obvious one, but that's not going to be the only one.
And these vaccines might turn out not to have been so cost-free in the long run, but that remains to be determined.
And there's no evidence at the moment to suggest that there will be like for sure health consequences from having taken it, but don't pretend like it's not on the table.
Yeah, 100%.
Absolutely.
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Let's go to territorial ambition.
Hitler had tremendous territorial ambition.
COVID is fucking everywhere.
Masks and vaccines have barely made it to Florida.
Moink COVID.
All right, let's like pause it right there again.
All right.
So by the way, masks and vaccines have kind of made it to everywhere.
And yes, there are actually a lot of masks and vaccines in Florida.
Now, yeah, Florida didn't do lockdowns.
They didn't do the government fucking totalitarian restrictions.
Or actually, I guess they did, but only for a couple of weeks and then they stopped to the great credit of Ron DeSantis.
Florida did about as well as everyone else.
You know, government policies, which again, like if you compare, let's say, again, let's just be fair with this, right?
Because this is what's so infuriating is to sit here and compare COVID to the fucking government policies.
Like, okay, but let's compare government policies.
Let's compare apples to apples.
Let's compare the government policies of South Dakota and North Dakota.
Okay, COVID made it to both of them, but actually South Dakota did better, even though they never had mandates for one fucking day.
And by the way, COVID also made it to New York and LA and all of the places that had the most authoritarian fucking crackdowns.
So don't act like that.
Like he's presenting this as if it's a choice between these, like this would make sense if COVID was only in the places where they hadn't had these restrictions.
Then you could at least argue.
Well, like, what do you want?
These restrictions or COVID?
But there's no correlation.
Go take Tom Wood's quiz.
Have you seen that, Rob, Tom, Tom's quiz that you can't pass?
It's amazing.
I fucking, damn it, I can't remember the website right now.
But if you go to Tom's Twitter, it's like on there somewhere.
But he made these quizzes of where you just look at these charts and you have to determine which state had the mask mandate, which didn't, which, and it's impossible to pass.
You never know because there's no rhyme or reason.
There's no, there is absolutely no correlation between the state, the places that had mask mandates, places that did lockdowns versus the ones that didn't.
The virus just kind of acts the way the virus acts, and that's it.
And so you could say, well, the people who don't want authoritarianism are on team COVID.
But don't you see where this is kind of circular logic?
You've already started with your conclusion.
I'm on side mitigating a virus and you're on side virus.
Well, okay, yeah.
But this is almost ironically like the type of logic someone like Hitler would have used.
Well, if you support the Jews, you support the virus, right?
Because according to Hitler, the Jews were the virus.
So, okay, are you for the virus or are you for human beings?
That's where you're starting from.
Whereas, of course, that's not what we're saying.
The question is, are you for liberty or not?
And if you want to make the argument that being for liberty is more, you know, detrimental to human flourishing than being opposed to it, then fine.
But then you'd actually have to do work.
And then if you could still make that funny, that would actually be pretty great, whether I agree with you or not.
But then you'd actually have to compare, say, something like, you know, the trade-offs of the average person who's living in, you know, whatever, the most heavily locked down areas are worth the fucking trade-offs that someone say living in Florida or South Dakota have had to make.
Or the Amish, like I brought up on the last episode.
Fucking Amish did none of this shit.
I've just been reading up on this recently, but it's real interesting.
The fucking Amish just like refused masks, refused all this shit, refused vaccines, all of it.
And they did better.
Reached herd immunity very quickly.
And I mean, it's not that they didn't have anything.
Like, again, it's not that COVID doesn't exist.
They did have some people die.
They did have some people get sick, but they continued their way of life.
And it wasn't nearly as bad as it was in other areas where they had heavy restrictions.
Maybe it's also because they're not fucking have a huge obesity problem.
You know, anyway, let's keep playing.
COVID's making it a runaway.
All right, here's one.
This is a little bit more fanciful.
Time machine.
They always ask, if you had a time machine, would you go back in time and would you kill baby Hitler?
And everybody's like, I don't know if I could kill a baby.
And I'm always like, oh, I think I'm probably strong enough to do that.
I'm not super strong, but I could probably do that.
I wouldn't.
But I could.
But that wasn't right.
So if you could go back in time, would you kill COVID?
You just have to take off Fauci.
Where would you wet market or the laboratory?
Oops, I stepped in it again.
What have I done?
All right, something.
And I'll tell you this: I would definitely fucking kill COVID as a baby.
Now, Would you, however, kill the immuno-suppressed deli owner who has made you put on a mask for 30 seconds to get a bagel when he was baby?
No, I don't think you would.
Point COVID for the time machine.
Finally, propaganda.
It's not even, I'll tell you, it's pause it there.
It's not even drawing audience from, drawing laughter from the audience because it's just so like there has to be, you can't just be ridiculous.
There's got to be some element of reality in order to make this a joke that works.
Like, what?
No one's saying they would kill.
Why would you kill the immunocompromised deli owner who makes you put on a mask?
Dude, everyone's that guy didn't make you put on a mask.
That guy doesn't give a shit.
The fucking government made you put on a mask, dude.
And it has nothing.
And he's sitting behind a plexiglass wall.
Like, it doesn't even matter.
It's ridiculous.
There's no, would you kill a virus?
Yeah, like you kind of alluded to.
Yeah, we'd probably never create it, Jon Stewart, as you just said, right?
So that's kind of right.
If you don't, if you believed in individual liberty and didn't believe in all these government programs, you probably never would have created this goddamn virus.
But like, yeah, we'd all like, I don't know, even comparing, like, would you kill a virus or kill a baby?
Like, what?
I don't know.
Just take Hitler.
If you have Hitler as a baby, just take him.
Take him away somewhere else and raise him right.
Everything will be fine.
But the virus, yeah, of course you'd kill the virus if you could.
What does this mean?
It's like, I don't know.
It's just so, it's painful to see this comedy giant to me fall this low.
This is just, it's just like, if anything a political comedian is supposed to be is not a regime propagandist.
And why are you even doing this?
What's the point of Jon Stewart coming back?
You're not on Comedy Central anymore.
You don't have the big studio audience.
You don't have like the energy you used to have.
Now's the time for you to just sit back and tell the truth.
Just fucking be George Carlin, dude.
Just fucking tell it and piss them all off.
And like, you know, I don't know.
This is attacking freedom with this nonsense.
All right.
All right.
We can keep playing.
Finally, propaganda.
Now, I'll admit, COVID does not have a Riefenstahl-esque team burnishing its image.
But, you know, COVID prevention doesn't really have any chilling propaganda videos either.
Imagine there's no heaven.
Wow.
So I haven't, hold on, just pause it right now.
I haven't seen this part.
This is, I haven't seen the last couple of minutes.
This is all new to me.
But he's actually bringing up propaganda and going to compare the two of them and say COVID doesn't, the COVID prevention doesn't really have a propaganda.
And okay, yes, that was cringe as shit.
But John, Mr. Leibowitz, by the way, his real name, Mr. Leibowitz, this has been the biggest propaganda campaign in history.
And what you just, I don't know where he's going with this, but what he just showed was just one of the many celebrity videos of the many.
I mean, holy shit.
Are you really going to do propaganda?
Please tell me he at least gives this point over to them.
I've personally been censored.
Yeah, really?
Like, all right, let's, let's see.
Point COVID prevention.
Oh, okay, good.
All right, good.
Thank God.
I don't have to imagine I'm living it.
Better propaganda videos.
All right, that goes there.
But clearly, on the important measure, deaths, COVID's more Hitler.
And so we find ourselves in an absurd place where mutual sacrifices to preserve freedom now lead to violent backlash because they fall leading to him.
Yeah, pause.
Oh, man.
Oh, it'll make me blow my fucking brains out.
Minor, minor, minor, minor meaning everything, meaning everything.
Minor meaning the entire fucking nation, Jon Stewart.
Are you kidding me?
Minor?
Like the idea that you're going to say this is fucking, god damn it, man.
And it really is something for someone as filthy rich as Jon Stewart to say this.
Minor sacrifices.
Do you know?
Listen, just on the inflation that the money printing over the last year and a half has caused, it has ruined people's lives.
Now, Jon Stewart, you know, if the average house around here, by the way, me and Jon Stewart live not that far from each other.
If the average house around here goes up $100,000, what does that mean to Jon Stewart?
He has $100,000 more in his fucking real estate value, you know, in the big farm that he owns.
Like, okay, it's not that, whatever.
If the price of food and the price of energy and the price of gas, all this stuff goes up, I mean, I don't know.
He probably doesn't even notice it.
For other people, it destroys them, destroys them, puts their whole vision of what their life was going to be out of reach now.
Oh, you were going to be a homeowner.
Well, now you're not.
Now you're just going to rent.
Oh, you were going to be able to do that.
No, now you're not.
Now you're going to have to tighten your belt.
Your vacation's off.
You're fucking, now you're sitting around the kitchen table with your wife.
Like, fuck.
We got three kids.
And now all of a sudden, all this money we were going to put away all has to go toward this other shit.
And that's just on the inflation that we've already felt, let alone what we're going to be feeling for the next few years.
You want to talk lockdowns?
You want to talk people being fired because they don't want to take a vaccine?
Like minor sacrifices.
Like, no, it's not just putting on a mask as you run into a deli.
It's, this is what happens when you have these like super rich people telling you what they imagine the sacrifice is for regular people.
It's like, yeah, from what I heard, my butler only had to put a mask on for a minute when he went to fetch me that sandwich.
The fucker, you don't know about the sacrifices that people have made.
This drives me crazy.
You want to have a real conversation about this?
You want to do a real comparison?
You want to do real comedy about this?
Then fucking, let's be real.
The thing that's hilarious is rich old dorks like you thinking that someone losing everything is a minor sacrifice.
Maybe to you that is, but it's not to them.
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All right.
You and I jumped on the same word there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's finish this up.
Well, I guess that's it.
Let's just hear some badass tunes.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe in closing, any thoughts about all that?
I don't know.
I hope I don't have a career long enough that I end up shilling for a big farm.
Or maybe you hope you do.
I don't know.
I guess, I guess, I guess, yeah, it's the terrible thing that happens.
It's like, I don't know, all the musicians that just age into being not cool.
This is the same version of that in comedy or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of sad to see.
If nothing else, I'd expect like, I guess that, and that last thing that he said is the one that really pisses me off the most.
And I would expect, and I've been saying this since the very beginning of this whole fucking weird new world that we live in.
But since March of 2020, then me and you have been talking about this on the show.
That, you know, there's a lot of things that I could understand where we have some disagreements over with where people don't see things the same way we do.
And I could understand where certainly where people are more likely to say, we want, we, I just trust the experts.
And if CNN is putting a guy up there and saying this is what all the epidemiologists believe, then I'm going to trust him over trusting some guy on the internet.
I kind of can get that in a way.
It's just, I think the deeper you look into it, you realize there's all these other epidemiologists and all these other people who are silenced.
And actually the data doesn't back up what these guys are saying.
And actually, they've been proven to be liars like many times and all of this.
But leaving that aside, what I can never get past that just blows my mind is anyone who's like a left liberal like Jon Stewart claiming that it's been minor sacrifices since March 2020 to now.
Like you don't, you really don't think that months of lockdowns and restrictions and then mandates and vaccine passports, you don't, you don't think this has like ruined people's lives?
You see this as minor sacrifices?
And again, I think there was something to this that right from the beginning when these billionaires were putting out these, hey, we're all in this together.
You know, we're all in this together.
We all just got to stay home.
Remember that propaganda from back in March and April of 2020?
We're all in this together.
We all just got to stay home.
I mean, yeah, you and your wife and your four kids who you have no idea how you're going to provide for in the future, you got to stay in your, in your two-bedroom apartment and I got to stay in my mansion.
But we're all in this together.
And that's his thing.
Oh, it's just minor inconveniences.
So you're really going to like rate the COVID regime on how evil it's been.
And I guess, yeah, I mean, I guess if you just find this all to be a minor inconvenience, it's a minor inconvenience versus COVID.
Sure, then it kind of makes sense.
But here in reality, like actually, I don't know, Jon Stewart, like leave your fucking multi-million dollar property for a little bit and just go like talk to people.
Go talk to people here in our neighborhood.
Go talk to people about what they've been through because I've actually done that quite a bit.
Talk to a lot of people around here about what they've been through.
Go like walk into any business and ask them what it's been like over the last fucking 18, 19 months.
I don't think you'll hear once.
If you go into a hundred of them and talk to all of them, I don't think you'll hear one time anyone say it's been a minor inconvenience.
So man of the people, right?
Like you care about the working class and all that shit.
So go talk to some of them.
Jesus.
All right.
Anything else you want to add, Rob?
Yeah, hopefully all these people going super not cool will give up some market comedy share to you and I.
Yeah, I'm really hoping we can take that over.
That'd be really nice.
All right.
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Yeah.
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On the list is Albany, Philly, Peddling Fiction Podcast.
Put together a whole event in Mexico, I'll be at.
Denver, New Hampshire, a couple other cities.
Atlanta, I just added.
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