Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein condemn President Joe Biden's executive order mandating vaccination or weekly testing for 100+ employee firms as an unconstitutional declaration of war on America. They contrast U.S. measures with Australia's totalitarian lockdowns, alleging data suppression in Pfizer trials and claiming natural immunity surpasses mRNA vaccines. The hosts warn this federal overreach threatens civil war, creates a caste system, and divides the nation more than Trump did, urging mass disobedience to prevent a negative future where private liberties vanish under forced compliance. [Automatically generated summary]
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So, yeah, this feels like a big episode.
Feels like a big one.
Of course, President Joe Biden gave a speech yesterday where he outlined some pretty drastic new COVID measures.
There were a few things that he was tinkering around with about mandating federal employees to get vaccinated.
No big shock there, kind of just a little bit more of the same.
Interestingly, maybe we'll get into this a little bit later.
There was an exemption for the post office workers, which we had talked about how, you know, the post office union had fought back against this, and I guess that's what got them out of it.
But that really fascinating in a way, just because it's like, we're either following the science and being authoritarians or we're not.
And what is that?
Of all jobs, the postal work.
It's not like they're like out there going all around.
Anyway, but the major thing, I think no question about it, the major component of this that will surely be challenged legally.
Who knows what will happen there?
I mean, it's obviously wildly unconstitutional, but so is about 95% of what the federal government does.
So who the hell knows?
But Joe Biden announced that the Department of Labor is just deciding that all companies with 100 or more employees, not 99, because the science dictates 100, with 100 or more employees, their employees must get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing.
This is, I mean, look, there's a lot of different angles to go here, and I'm almost like wondering where to start.
But I guess I'll just start.
Let me just say this, okay?
And I'm very curious to get your feedback or your thoughts on this situation.
So this is a pretty brazen step by the federal government.
And there's been a lot of brazen shit over the last 18 months.
But the most authoritarian policies have come from the states, not from the federal government.
I think this is...
They didn't like it.
Yeah.
You're not going to be more authoritarian than us.
Well, I think this is for sure the most authoritarian thing that the federal government has done since COVID has been a thing.
And, you know, you look out at Australia, this third world country known as Australia, where people are being beaten up by cops for the crime of leaving their home.
This is no joke.
I mean, Australia has gone so totalitarian that I struggle to find a comparison in history.
I mean, not to say that there haven't been more evil regimes and there's been genocidal regimes and things like that.
I mean, Australia is not there.
They're setting up camps, but they're not genociding people quite yet.
Like a kangaroo and hopper, you're going to go.
Yeah, well, although I'll tell you, there's been stories out of Australia about babies dying because they were denied vital surgeries and things like that.
I mean, like, pretty goddamn outrageous.
So I don't know exactly what you'd call that.
To me, that's the state murdering those kids.
So I would just say that you look at this example of Australia, and this is something that we have to grapple with.
And this is a bitter pill to swallow.
It's something Jeff Dice was talking about in a recent speech he gave.
It was a really great speech.
Some Mises event.
I can't remember when.
But he was saying, look, in Australia, if someone leaves their home and the cops beat the shit out of them or like whatever.
Imagine a scenario like that.
I'm not just pulling this out of thin air.
This is like a Western society that's doing this.
How many people in America would support that coming here?
How many people in America would support you being, you know, if you're unvaccinated being, or even if you're vaccinated, if there's another, you know, uptick or something like that?
How many people in America would support the unvaccinated being straight up denied medical service if they're sick?
How many people would support the unvaccinated getting the shit beat out of them by a cop if they didn't comply with some rule?
How many people in America would support you, Rob, you and me being locked in our home, having our lives ruined?
And the answer isn't only a few.
Tens of millions of Americans would support that.
That's where we are.
Now, ask yourself this.
As crazy as this measure is from Biden, does anyone think this is the last thing?
Does anyone believe that if he gets this through, that's it?
You know, I don't know about you, but this has been a really long 15 days to flatten the curve, right?
So it's like, how close to that are we going to go?
That's the thing that everyone's got to start thinking about.
And the fact that there will be tens of millions of Americans who will support them going along this way.
It's go time.
This is the real deal.
And so that's kind of just like my bigger takeaway from all of this is that it's really on.
And I think at this point, you know, we're well beyond the point where libertarians or people in our school have thought, you know, can like kind of sit on the fence and just be like, well, we're not with the left or the right or we're not with this.
It's like, no, no, no, no, man.
We're with anybody who's against this.
That's it.
There's a real threat of us becoming Australia.
And if that's that, then you know what?
Like other things that we thought were really important differences have to all be kind of pushed to the back to some degree.
And that this is what we really need to focus on is fighting against this.
Yeah, although I'll tell you, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know if Trump being in there would have been any better.
I'm talking more on the level of people that we need to ally with all the people who are against this.
But, you know, Donald Trump being in there, I don't know, the worst of the lockdowns happened under Donald Trump.
And quite, you probably wouldn't have had this out of a Trump administration, even though he really is bragging about Operation Warp Speed.
I mean, he would have been taking all the credit for the vaccines if he was in there.
But the Democratic governors certainly would have gone more insane if Trump had been in there.
Anyway, I think just speaking, you're 100% right.
This is level one.
Like, who thinks that this is going to be the most authoritarian measure?
We know the way these people work.
If we invite them into our lives, if we allow them to exert this power, this will not be the end of it.
The only thing I saw that kind of gave me a little bit of hope here, I'm surprised that 80 million people are still not vaccinated.
And if you consider, like, you know, Biden was being very dismissive and saying we've lost our patients with the 80 million people that won't be vaccinated.
Biden's winning coalition was 81 million people.
So if the idea of democracy is that 80 million people can get together and pick who's in charge, why isn't the vote of 80 million people respected when they say, hey, I don't want to have this thing?
How are you going to really be dismissive of that massive a group of people, especially considering two very important factors?
One, we're currently at 80 million people, but if you start factoring in all the people that already were told by their jobs, they'd be fired if they didn't get it.
You're probably looking at more like 120, 130, 140.
Now, how many people got both vaccinations, but when they're told, and by both, I mean like they got the two and so they're fully vaccinated, but are told that they have to get a booster are going to say, no, I'm not getting a booster.
Like the number of people that probably don't want to be compliant with this are probably closer to 150 to 200 would be my estimate.
Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't know, but it's definitely a lot higher than the 80 million who haven't, the 80 million we know for sure, right?
And there's certainly got to be a lot more who were pressured, forced by their company, not forced in the libertarian sense of the word, but, you know, basically, you know, were had the threat of losing their job over this.
And I'll just throw out some conspiracy stuff and I'll keep it light so that I don't also get your channel canceled.
Over the last couple of days, I've been trying to find stats over the last two months of vaxed versus unvaxed, deaths and hospitalizations.
The only information you can find goes back to January, which conveniently, there were a lot of unvaxed people in January.
So the percentage of unvaxed people that are dying is going to be the majority.
And then also, it would seem that the shots don't work as well on the variants.
So your January, February, March data is not going to be as relevant as when Delta started, which is going to be your July, June, July, August, essentially.
I personally doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I cannot find the breakout of vaxed versus unvaxed.
The ramping up really does feel like they're trying to get rid of the evidence of being able to compare whether or not this thing is working, especially if the variants do over time become less deadly.
It's going to be very easy for them to say, well, look, we got this thing under control thanks to these vaccinations.
And then to change the narrative and go look at the death rates.
Look, it's only everything we've been saying this whole time.
They'll just go, oh, yeah, it's only the sick and old people that are getting sick.
Those are the only people that are dying.
And then they'll take credit for everything on the basis of the vaccines, even though there will never have been the data to really support one way or the other.
Yeah.
You know, there's so all of that's interesting.
I just wanted to jump on one of the things that you said at the beginning about there being 80 million people who were opposed to this.
And the idea that, you know, there's trying to gauge these numbers, right?
There's no question that there are some people who fall into the category of like, okay, I'll get a vaccine.
And even those people who weren't, like, if you start to think about, right, the coalition who have been vaccinated versus those who haven't, amongst the ones who have been, as you just pointed out, many were required to for their job.
Sure, many were pressured socially by their families, by their friends.
You have people whose families, you know, like are crazy and won't see you unless you're vaccinated or all this stuff.
And then there's got to be a huge portion of them who were also basically held hostage with life by threat of the government.
Like in other words, being like, well, this is the only way to get our life back, which is basically what the government was just telling them.
Hey, you don't want to do lockdowns again.
You don't want to be masked up forever.
Get these two shots and then you go back to that.
So then they get the two shots and they don't get to go back to that.
So how many of them were kind of coerced under false pretense to get the vaccine?
And then how many people who might be comfortable taking an MNRA vaccine, you know, getting two doses of it, are not going to be okay with doing it every six months forever.
You know, like what?
I mean, is it not reasonable to say, like, even if you're not like overly concerned with negative effects from the vaccine, that you might be like, yeah, but I don't know, taking an mRNA vaccine every six months for my life, there's no studies on that.
No one's ever done that.
Also, how many people got sick for a couple days after doing it?
Who wants to be sick for three nine days a year?
You want to commit nine days of your year to flu-like symptoms and having to stay home?
For the vast majority of the population, if you just think about that, like nine days a year being sick over five years, there is no question that that's worse than what COVID would be.
You know what I'm saying?
So like what, you know, it's anyway, so if you start to look at the coalitions, and this is the thing to be encouraged about, our coalition is actually a lot stronger than it seems by just looking at the numbers, right?
Like there's a lot more to it than that.
This also, one of the things that I was in a way encouraged by, oh, I should say this, I made this point last night on one of the shows I was on.
I did Josh Smith's show, and then I did Reed Coverdale's show last night.
I forget which one I was saying this on, but like there was brilliance in the way they proposed this because they're always, and it's kind of fascinating that they're always kind of battling between, you know, they want to go as far as they can without generating massive resistance.
You know, that's what they always kind of want to do.
They always want to go as far as they can.
And they like the boiling frog style thing where you turn it up, turn it up, turn it up, right?
Like they're not just coming out and just going national vax passport, mandatory vaccines for every citizen, right?
They have to go, okay, companies over 100 people, you have to get vaxed or submit to weekly testing.
It's always kind of one or the, you know, like here's a little step, a little step.
So there's, there is brilliance in that.
However, this was enough of a step that I, you know, this, this was Biden really declaring war on the unvaccinated.
And I mean, look, this is straight up.
Like if you, there's a huge percentage of people, I forget the exact numbers.
I think it's something like 70 million people who work for companies with 100 or more employees.
And they've all just been told like that the federal government is going to be in the business of firing you if you're not willing to get vaccinated or get tested all the time.
Just like we're going to make a crazy inconvenience in your life or you lose your job.
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On the point of pushback, so first, the obvious workaround is people splitting their companies so that they're never at that 100 marker.
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I don't know how difficult or easy that is to facilitate.
I would also think that the weekly testing, there's probably ways to do that, that it's not too expensive or to not quite do it weekly.
Like, is the government like, what is there going to be?
Some government like cop that shows up and, you know, double checks your records of having tested everyone on a weekly basis um, but the move is I I mean, it's a good manager step by the government where they go.
Hey, we can't possibly force this group of people to go do it, but you know, what we can do is squeeze each business to basically work for us.
It's the the same way they do taxes.
It's like collecting taxes from everyone individually is not that easy.
But if they tell your boss who's got a thousand employees, two thousand three hey, you better take it from all these people or we're coming after you.
It's good management yeah, yeah.
No, it's the fascist uh model, which is yeah, it's, it's uh effective um, but it's also evil no, uh.
But there's an interesting thing to note about the labor market, um.
So, for example, I was talking to a friend who works in uh um, like elder care, like he runs a bunch of um old age homes and he was saying, there they have major staffing shortages right now and most of his staff is like Latin American people, like they're just people from South America, like people from Jamaica.
They are not into this vaccine.
I think there's a lot of labor markets that would actually kind of go belly up if this is put in like they say that 70 of people that are unvaxed will not comply with the mandate.
They would Sooner, be they would sooner leave their jobs.
I don't know if that's true.
I read that in the week magazine.
But there are certain critical industries, and I believe hospitals might fall into that, elderly care, like critical industries where there actually will be death if everyone leaves their post.
It would be interesting if this would crack under its own weight.
Before we put too many eggs in that basket, it's very convenient that the unemployment laws are coming up just as they put this one into place.
Yeah, no, that's a very, that's a very interesting point.
Certainly does work out.
Very convenient timing there.
So, yeah, there's, you know, it's interesting how quickly it went from like the healthcare workers are the heroes, you know, in the beginning of the pandemic to like, you're fired if you won't get this vaccine.
And it's one of the things that they don't like to talk about a lot because the fact that healthcare professionals are, you know, hesitant to get a vaccine doesn't say much for people's confidence in the vaccine.
Yeah, this is, you know, one of the things that's interesting is that we've been, so we've been talking about on the show so much the demonizing of the unvaccinated.
It's been a major theme over the last few weeks.
And it's funny.
It's like, if you want to have a, you know, if you want to be good at predicting where the U.S. federal government's going to go, you kind of got to pay attention to the propaganda.
And then usually something is going to come follow that if there's a massive propaganda push.
This is something that's been building and you see the way it is.
And it's like demonize the unvaccinated people.
And now we're going to pass a law that's going to, not pass a law, I shouldn't say that, declare that the federal government is going to force businesses to fire those people.
And now it just makes it a little bit easier for a lot of people to accept that because it's those evil unvaccinated people anyway.
Now they're at a word.
It's very weird.
Everyone hates their friends with no money.
No one likes those people.
Yeah, right.
They're chronically unemployed, no money.
But it's interesting that you have like straight up, you know, that like, you know, Jimmy Kimmel is like just selling Biden's policies for him in advance.
I don't think like, you know, I don't mean to imply that there's some conspiracy there that they're sitting down and working it out together.
I think it's just that these things are kind of like they have a whole system down for how these allowable opinions get created and then everybody kind of gets pushed into, you know, presenting them.
Can we take a look at the newest claims demonizing the unvaxed?
So first is Biden said that it's unfair to the vaccinated workers to be put at risk by the unvaccinated workers.
Like if you're working in an office and you're vaccinated, it's not fair.
That he was going to protect the vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated.
So does that mean the vaccine doesn't work?
Is that what he's saying?
So in other words, it's a gift that if you are compliant with the vaccine mandate will allow you to go to work.
But really, and I guess the risk is being reduced by the fact that there's just less people in your office because we got rid of the unvaxed workers.
I'm not really understanding the claim.
Dude, the science, the scientific justification behind all of this is so goofy.
It doesn't make any sense.
And it's just so, it's so obvious that it's like, if you are saying the vaccine is so good that it must be mandated, then why do you need to mandate it?
And why does anyone who has, if you have the vaccine, then you have nothing to worry about?
That's it.
There's no need to do any of this.
There's no justification for it.
Their other argument is that the more hosts are available for the virus to basically infect, the more likely that the virus will evolve.
Like it's a numbers game.
There's 100 million people that the virus can infect.
That's 100 million opportunities for the virus to mutate.
The issue with this claim, so what they're saying is we need everyone to get vaccinated because unless everybody's vaccinated, the odds of a mutation are greater than if everybody is vaccinated.
Now, there's some significant problems with this.
One, they've stopped tracking for breakthrough infections.
So it's really hard to claim that only unvaccinated individuals are being infected, right?
That's the first thing.
It's like we don't know the numbers on breakthrough infections.
So to say that like there's no viable people that could become sick because like, you know, they're getting infected.
Man, I'm not saying this that clearly.
Amongst the vaxed individuals, we don't know how many of those people are actually getting infected.
So we don't, how do you run that math equation to say that like the odds of a mutation only exist because there's a massive amount of unvaxed individuals?
That's just the first thing.
Secondly, is there a single incident of a person getting in a healthy individual getting infected in the United States of America and then causing a mutation?
As far as I know, every single mutation thus far has come from another country.
So the idea that like you have to vax the entire world before the 80 million living in the United States of America are relevant.
I also believe that the mutations start taking place.
And you can fact check this with doctors in non-healthy individuals where the virus has a longer opportunity to live on, right?
Like in basically an immunocompromised individuals.
The point being, if healthy 30-year-olds aren't getting vaxed, right?
Is there a single piece of evidence to suggest that that community of people, let's say 20 to 40 year olds that are healthy, are going to lead to viral mutations?
Right.
Now, I understand the question.
And it's certainly these things are asserted that, you know, okay, if everybody's vaxxed, it's going to be less likely for these mutations to form.
But yeah, there's no real evidence being presented to back up these claims, as you're saying.
I mean, it's not.
And again, I think one of the most important points you hit is that it's like, look, if you have something like the Delta variant, which certainly by all accounts is more resistant to the vaccine than previous variants, well, like those variants which developed amongst unvaccinated in India, those are the ones that are going to spread around.
So even if every single man, woman, and child in America is vaccinated, it's the variants that are resistant to the vaccine that are going to be the ones that spread.
So it's not, there's, there's not much of an argument that this is that this is going to actually prevent.
By the way, not just spread, but there is reason to believe that perhaps as these vaccines really only protect you from the alpha, right?
And not what the new variants are.
So it's actually creating more hosts that are available as the mutations happen.
So it might actually increase mutations.
You guys can go look that one up on your own.
And then the, well, I'll just say that.
It's just like, also herd immunity.
So if the healthy 30-year-olds who probably the virus would not live long enough inside of to mutate all had natural immunity, which is 15 times greater than these shots, we probably have a more robust natural herd immunity that might actually keep us from these mutations.
So please, any scientist in the world can hit me up, robsnewsrim at gmail.com.
If you want to explain how it is that the mutations are only the result of unvaccinated individuals, like I'd love to hear that because that's how they are dictating policy and basically pointing to us and scapegoating the unvaxxed as being responsible.
And it doesn't add up.
Well, we're also here.
We're basically supposed to pretend that natural immunity doesn't exist.
That never comes up in any of the, you know, in any Biden speech or, you know, how the hell are you going to give a whole, you know, series of mandates and speeches about immunity to COVID that we never bring up natural immunity and just pretend that doesn't exist.
And here's one thing that pops a big bubble in like the whole narrative of the demonization of the unvaxed.
How about you?
Like people like you.
And there's lots of people like Jesus.
Well, right.
How about COVID Jesus over here or all the other COVID Jesuses?
But I'm just saying like you, you know, this narrative that because you're not vaccinated, you now pose this serious threat or blah, blah, blah.
Actually, you have stronger immunity than just about anybody.
You just recently had it and beat it.
You're like the best, you know, if you wanted to measure who's the safest to be around, you're like up there in the country with the most safe.
So right away that kind of destroys the narrative.
Now, what, and this is something I'll ask anyone, any scientists or anyone who just wants to present an argument, and I'm not going to give out my email or nothing like that because that's crazy.
But, you know, tweet me.
What is the logical argument for Rob to get vaccinated right now?
Someone who just had COVID, got over it just fine, has almost certainly stronger immunity than what the shot will give him.
What's the argument?
Because if you're starting to mandate something and you're starting to dictate that all of these people, you know, how many of these people are going to lose their jobs over this?
You're starting to mandate this now.
You probably should have an argument for why people should get this.
And if you don't, then you, you know, well, then that explains it.
And you got to ask yourself, Rob, of these, you know, if you look at the people who have not been vaccinated, of the 80 million people who have not taken it, it's like the more time goes on and the more social pressure and mandates in different fields of work and the more of a just massive propaganda campaign, you know, to get vaccinated has gone on, then whatever you're left with after that is pretty determined to not get it.
You know what I mean?
Like they've gone through the biggest propaganda campaign in history and said, no, I don't believe it.
Are they going to be pressured into it by this?
Some, I'm sure, but there's going to be a whole lot who just won't.
And that's kind of, you know, what's so insane about this.
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Now, if we, the thing also, you know, like the, there's, okay, so there's like with all things, there's, you know, a bad side and a good side.
And the real troubling and terrifying thing about Biden just straight up declaring war on the unvaccinated, on 80 million people of his own, you know, country, is, is, again, that nobody thinks this is the last step.
And this is.
Biden's losing his patience.
That's what he said.
Well, that's right.
You know, this is just level one.
Just wait till he starts losing his temper.
This is just his patience.
And he said also that this is not about freedom and choice.
This is transparent about that, though.
That he just said, hey, freedom and choice.
Can you imagine starting a sentence with like, this isn't about who we kill, or this isn't about the racism of this country.
It's like, this isn't about freedom and choice.
It's like, well, it is to me.
Who are you doing?
I thought that was the most important value.
So we're just going to start off this speech with the dismissive statement of the world's most important value.
Yeah, and not an argument.
Just, no, it's not.
It's not.
It's not that.
But this is a precedent now that is, I mean, just incredibly dangerous.
Incredibly dangerous.
This is really unlike anything in our country's history that the federal government can now just decide who you can and can't help.
And of course, it's, you know, for all the people who shout about democracy and fascism and all of this stuff.
I mean, this is just by, you know, executive decree under emergency powers, because that always works out real well, government emergency powers.
By emergency powers, we're just doing this.
No even pressure that like we need to have some type of consensus, some type of congressional backing to this.
Nope, just Biden just announced in a speech.
Your congressman found out the same way you did.
Just let you know.
This is a whole new world order within this country.
And once that is established, there's now precedent for it.
And who, God, God only knows how this enormous power will be wielded in the future.
It's a very scary thing.
However, the silver lining to all of this, perhaps, is that there's tremendous hubris in his decision to take this step.
And what exactly is going on behind the scenes?
I don't know exactly why they decided to do this right now, the way they have.
But this is something that really threatens to crack up this whole country.
And I view that as a good thing.
And this is like, you know, there are pockets of this country that have decided they're just going to live life as normal.
You know, it's like I went to South Dakota, and this is one of the things that's really interesting through the COVID regime has been traveling and going to the free places.
You know, it's just a very interesting thing to see.
And you could think about this, but it's more powerful to actually go there and see it.
But so you go to South Dakota, in South Dakota, they literally never had anything.
I mean, they never had a mandate of any, they never had a mask mandate.
They never had a lockdown, never deemed anyone non-essential, no vax passport, like none of this.
It's just because COVID sauce out the code is like, all right, you guys out the code.
I'll leave you alone.
North Dakota really took it out of us.
We're just not even interested.
No, but you go to South Dakota and it's like going in a time machine.
I mean, you're just like, oh shit, I'm in, you know, 2019.
Normal life.
That's it.
You know, just people being normal.
No one's being weird.
Everyone's just living their life.
And, you know, I've been to Texas after they lifted all the restrictions and it's just kind of like you're just back.
It's a little bit, you know, there's some people in masks and stuff, but pretty much like it's back to normal life.
And you, and then you go, you know, to New York, and now it's like you're getting asked to show a vax card to go into a restaurant.
You know, it's bizarre.
And what's really interesting is that you go kind of the one of the things that stands out is like we are really not in the same country.
Like this is not, this is not one nation.
This is you're, it's like you went into a different country.
These under a different regime with different cultural values, with different rules.
Like it's different laws.
And this is, Biden is really pushing something here where you start to go like, well, what keeps us as a nation right now?
And really, there's only one thing.
And this is something Rothbard wrote about a decent amount, especially later in his life, about the idea of the nation versus the state.
And nations historically, like if you looked at Europe, right, it's not just that, well, France and Germany have separate governments.
You know, like they did, but that's not the only thing that made them a different people.
It's like they spoke different languages.
They had different, you know, like customs and rituals.
They had different traditions.
They had different, you know, a whole bunch of differences.
And that's kind of what made them different nations, not just different states.
Right now, in the United States of America, what exactly makes us a nation?
The only thing is the federal government.
The only thing that makes us a nation is the fact that there's this federal government that by force says we are.
They say we are.
If the federal government disappeared tomorrow, do you see any indication that like Florida would really want to be in the same thing as Portland?
You know what I mean?
Like, do you see any indication that rural Alabama and downtown Brooklyn would be like, yeah, we're all one.
We're all in this together.
I sure don't.
I think there's no question that this is what would happen.
And right now, Joe Biden has really flirted with pushing the country towards some type of conflict.
And the best case scenario out of this is secession, and the worst case scenario out of this is a civil war.
I'm not saying we're going to get to either one of those, but it'll be interesting to see which direction it goes to.
There's another huge theme of Joe Biden's speech.
He declared war on the unvaccinated and he declared war on Ron DeSantis.
And I suppose Christy Noam too, and I suppose Abbott as well over in Texas.
But really, we all know he was talking about DeSantis.
And he was like, we will...
I forget the exact verbiage, but he said the governors who resist this, the federal government will work to get them out of the way.
It's like some real gangster shit in his speech.
And this is going to be interesting now to see how this is handled.
They're going to directly try to undermine Ron DeSantis' resistance to all of this.
And there's no question you got to recognize that that's a big thorn in their side.
And particularly DeSantis because he's just the loudest and the most ambitious of them.
But it's a big thorn in the side of the narrative that you got these places who just aren't doing any of this and they're really fine.
I mean, they have upticks here and there and everyone makes a big deal out of it.
But overall, it's like, eh, Florida, basically, since the beginning of COVID, hasn't done really democracy.
They're not wheelbarrowing corpses.
If everything we were saying was true, there would be wheelbarrows of corpses and giant pits, and it would be a, you'd be able to instantly go, ah, shit, we better all get this medication and stay home.
Well, it's look, for everything from the lockdowns and the mask mandates and now the vaccine mandates and all the vaccine passports, all of this, if anyone, if this entire upheaval of our cultural norms,
if it was worth it, that you just have to completely abandon everything because this is such a bad threat, then you'd have to look at the places who are not doing that and see that they are demonstrably worse.
I mean, even if it wasn't wheelbarrowing corpses, it had to be something really, really bad.
And you don't see that.
They're kind of right in the middle of the pack.
It's kind of like out of the same.
And that has got to just really stick in there, you know, in their side.
It's a real thorn in the narrative.
And so it's not surprising that they're going after him now.
So Ron DeSantis and Christy Noam, you know, they did really, really good in the biggest test of their lives.
And I'll always give them credit for that.
But it looks like they got another test coming up right now.
It'll be interesting to see how they do that and what exactly happens here.
You know, what, what, let's, it's going to be an interesting test of state power and how much the, and when I say state, I don't mean the, you know, governments, I mean of the states versus the federal government.
It's going to be a really interesting test.
What can Ron DeSantis do to resist this?
Because he also, and this is something that we really have on our side here, is that Ron DeSantis has now built an entire political ideology, excuse me, not ideology, a political identity around being the anti-COVID regime guy.
And I think this is a guy with a lot of aspirations.
He almost has to fight this to save his political life.
But can he?
That's going to be an interesting question.
And when there is resistance to this, which, you know, this is basically we're at the point where we need to resist this.
We need to defy all of this stuff.
I mean, if you're a business owner, you know, you need to defy these rules.
We need like mass civil disobedience in this country.
Of course, I'm not advocating anyone break laws.
This is all satire.
But I'm just saying that, you know.
Peaceful disobedience.
Yes.
But that's what we need.
And so how much can they just, you know, can DeSantis just be like, no?
And if OSHA sends people in here, then my police are going to stand in their way.
Tailgate, stay outside the buildings.
Protest the buildings, but don't go inside the buildings.
Yeah, I suppose.
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I think unlike the NSA or drone strikes, there's a lot of political capital for the Republicans to stand up to this.
So it's going to be interesting to see how quickly these lawsuits actually, I guess, probably, is this a Supreme Court issue?
It seems to me like it's probably a constitutional issue.
So how quickly can this get to the con, you know, to the Supreme Court?
Yeah, well, it, you know, it would have to be, you know, it could be struck down in lower courts, right?
So it would have to be upheld enough times that they could then appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.
But there seems to be no question here that there's already been a whole bunch of states that have started suing over this.
They're certainly opening themselves.
The RNC was going to sue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how does it work, though?
Because they haven't even said how are they going to implement this.
Like, what exactly is going to be the fine for non-compliance?
How exact, like, how are they coming after employers for not?
How are they going to make sure?
And then the biggest factor on the table still is how many people are going to leave their jobs.
And are we going to end up in an environment where you actually can't get health services and the government's forced to say, ah, shit, for everyone's benefit, we tried to do that, but apparently there were just too many people that wouldn't work under those circumstances.
And it turns out we actually need people to work at their jobs.
We can't just have a country where 80 million people who are really good at what they do or okay at what they do just aren't doing it anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll see.
The great strike of 2021.
Federal Authority Overreach00:08:07
That's what we need.
We need like a giant industry to just go like shipping.
Already there's a giant problem in shipping.
Imagine if the 80 million people like, imagine if in the shipping business, a huge number of those people are like, nope.
Like imagine if just entire critical industries go, nope.
Yeah, no, that's that.
This is what we need.
And, you know, it's just really, it's really wild to take a step back and think about this.
That this all happened since March of 2020.
And like, here we are.
This is the real deal.
Like, this is not a drill.
Look what they've done in the last 18 months.
We're at this point of mandated, you know, shots from the government, creating a whole class of people who this is it.
You know, it's now we have a national caste system.
It's not just the state or the cities doing it anymore.
Now there's a national caste system where if you're not vaccinated, you are now in this other class.
I mean, it's not based on, you know, what you were born into.
It's based on a medical choice that you make.
But still, I mean, that's not a very substantial difference.
It really would break.
Like if enough, let's say Texas just says we're not enforcing it and you had a couple major companies.
It doesn't seem like the major companies want to be on the wrong side of the federal government.
It looks like this is the downside to, we don't admit it.
We're living under communism, and there's so much more government money flowing through the system that that's why ESG exists.
You don't want to be on the wrong side of the Fed, you don't want to be the wrong side of the Democratic Party.
That's why they got control over all of your YouTubes and all your other places.
You know what I mean?
There's just too much money lost in not being compliant with what they're looking to do.
But, like, as a theoretical, it's not happening.
But if a giant employer, like a Walmart or a Bay, like someone just said, well, I guess we have to move to Texas.
I mean, those are stores.
So that wouldn't work out.
But if, like, an IBM, something that's all in one building type thing, just said, nope, we're not building here anymore.
We're opening up our factory over there.
If enough of those giant companies did it, the system would crack.
The other states would be like, I can't lose this industry.
Yeah.
I mean, look, that in some ways could, you know, it would be great to see, but like, you kind of already answered it before you even posed it.
That it's just, there's just too much pressure in many ways on these companies to not be on the wrong side of these guys.
But the thing that's that's really, you know, the thing that's really terrifying about the federal mandates coming down is that, yeah, if they're able to destroy the laboratories of like, we have at least one little free area here, one little free area here, then all of a sudden we have nothing to compare this to.
We have no proof that it's all unnecessary as we do now.
And then we're kind of off to the races.
There's nothing to keep them in check anymore.
This is well, they're destroying the trail.
They're doing a good job of getting rid of the evidence.
They're not tracking for breakthrough cases.
They're not telling us deaths or hospitalizations, vax versus unvaxxed.
They're all of a sudden in Israel, they've already done this.
You need three vaccines to be considered fully vaxxed.
So anybody who dies with only two, guess what?
They're in the unvaxed category.
That's how that's going to get recorded, at least according to my understanding.
Then they also, though, the Pfizer got rid of the control study group.
You can go check that out.
It's both on NPR and Zero Hedge, right?
We'll never know what the long term because they got rid of the control group.
Really seems like they're doing a pretty good job of making sure that there's no way to actually look at the science to establish whether or not their policies are or aren't working.
Yeah.
The crazy thing to me, right, is that how many people in America will support this stuff?
You know, that's the thing that's like really troubling to wrap your head around.
And that, like I said, how many people, how many people in America would support turning us into Australia?
It's not an insignificant number.
And they'd be fine with it being them too, even if they were in it, even if they were locked down.
It's not just that they want to do this to the unvaccinated.
They're kind of willing to play this game and themselves included.
And, you know, Biden, you know, I was saying last night that it's like, it's unbelievable how much every president ends up being the exact opposite of what their central promise of the campaign was.
Whatever the central promise was, they always end up being the exact opposite.
And Joe Biden to say, you know, he was the unity guy.
He wanted to heal the soul of the country and unify the country once again.
I mean, he just in one speech divided the country more than Trump did in four years.
I mean, in one speech, he just basically we are now in a position of being in like a cold civil war.
Like, thank God it's not hot.
But this is now like absolutely like there's, you've got, you know, almost 100 million people, or as you were saying before with the numbers, probably over 100 million people who straight up don't want this.
Now the federal government's coming in to force it on them.
It's wild, man.
It's wild.
And no one can really, listen, you can't downplay this stuff.
And it's something, too.
And it's like, I just, man, I'm just so like furious, particularly at the, you know, the people in the, you know, identifying as libertarians who like would write these articles that we've talked about, you know, kind of justifying this part or that part of the COVID regime.
I mean, this is it.
Like, how could you not see what they've done to us over the last 18 months and not go, like, this is the most important thing to fight against right now?
All of this.
And the more time that goes on, the more we're dug into a hole, you know?
And so the further away that February 2020 is, the tougher it is to get back to it.
So, man, we really better hope.
I don't know what the avenue is, whether it's going to be mass disobedience or it's going to be some of these lawsuits.
You know, perhaps, who knows?
I mean, I've read enough Rothbard to be very cautious about optimism that the courts will say, well, yes, this is, in fact, unconstitutional, which it blatantly is.
It's blatantly unconstitutional.
What is the blatant unconstitutionality of it?
Well, there's absolutely no authority for the president to decide who private companies can and can't hire.
I mean, the idea he has some control over federal workers, but there's no, there's a law would be unconstitutional is you have no constitutional authority to tell some private business they can or can't do business with a certain person.
But this isn't even the executive, you know, enforcing a law that was written by Congress.
There's certainly like no constitutional authority granted for the president to just by fiat declare, oh, these businesses aren't allowed to do this anymore.
I mean, it's very, look, I mean, Congress writes the laws.
Now, this is a law that would overstep congressional authority, let alone the presidents.
But again, 95% of what the federal government does is unconstitutional.
So we'll see.
We'll see what happens that way.
But man, this is all I'd say is like to anybody who's ambivalent about this stuff or whatever.
I mean, do you think this is the last one?
Do you think this is the last step?
Do you think that this won't be used for other things aside from COVID?
This is it.
This is the big one.
Presidential Power Limits00:01:01
And, you know, now we're here.
You know, I said a few months back on this show that we were at a fork in the road where we were going to go one of two directions.
Right now, it sure seems like we're going in the bad one.
And this is the time to really get serious and get loud and to really forcefully oppose this stuff and to really start thinking about what actions can be taken to try to stop this.
And yeah, that's what I'll be doing.
So I don't know.
Any other thoughts on your Joe Biden?
Yeah.
All right.
Okay.
I guess we'll wrap there.
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