James Smith and Rob dissect the "Rochester Protest Spectacular," where 15 to 20 accusers labeled him a Nazi sympathizer over past interviews with Richard Spencer and Gavin McInnes. Smith defends his controversial quotes on discrimination and transgender trustworthiness as comedy, arguing protesters ignore global threats like Russia in favor of microaggressions. He critiques social credit systems in America, dismisses Bill de Blasio's legitimacy, and predicts a Delta variant spike where natural immunity will lower hospitalizations. Ultimately, Smith advocates for radical decentralization to prevent one-world government, asserting that local communities must decide cultural issues without federal interference while prioritizing family life over institutional capture. [Automatically generated summary]
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Racist Comedy and Essentialism00:14:38
Fill her up.
You are listening to the Gash Digital Network.
I ain't saying a fan joy.
They thought they tried Wendell Jordan tonight.
That would have been sad.
I mean, I see black people going there and that's sick.
The force is so strong in this racist show that they suck white beat black people right into this.
They were walking fast and wasn't even gonna go.
But they were just having like, I don't know, racist thoughts.
You went right in there.
Don't walk back.
If you're not racist, don't walk back when they show it to right at.
All the racists in there.
All the racists in there.
The Nazis, the proud boys, look at their gun trucks.
They go over here.
We need to roll back the state.
We spy on all of our own citizens.
Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
You're listening to part of the problem on the Gash Digital Network.
Here's your host, James Smith.
Let's go find those motherfuckers.
All right, guys, well, we are going to do a live part of the palm podcast.
Thank you guys for the move for that.
It's going to be the Rochester Protest Sectacular.
Welcome to the stage, the next president of the United States of America.
Let's hear it for Dave Smith!
What's up, Rochester?
How we feeling?
Oh, thank you, guys.
Thanks a lot of you guys for sticking around from the comedy show.
All right, live part of the problem here in Rochester under siege.
As it happens.
All right, so for people listening to the show, let's catch them up to what you're referring to and everyone in the group here's experience.
This has been a first for me in my career.
I have never been protested before.
And I always dreamed I would get there, but part of you doesn't know, you know?
And I'll tell you, I've been saying fucked up shit for a long time.
So it's nice to finally get the recognition that you feel like you deserve.
It's not the best protests, I'll be honest.
There's about, what is it, 20 people outside?
15.
15.
The audience doesn't know.
There were a thousand somewhere.
Yeah, like, I think that guy was trying to help me, but he really just made me feel worse about myself.
Like, I was like, I got like 20 people protesting.
And he's like, all right, relax, dude.
Like, you got like 15 max.
I counted them.
And two of them were little people.
So, like, we're counting them as one and rounding down.
But yeah, so it was the first time ever.
Now, I have, I know a lot of people who have been, you know, like protested seriously before.
And there is something, it's always weird.
I remember feeling this before I ever got called like a racist Nazi, whatever.
That you have this kind of naivete.
Like, I'm like, well, they would never call me that because I'm such a great guy.
And then they start calling you that, and you're like, this is messed up.
Like, what do you mean?
It's very surreal.
It's strange.
And they've been here.
They were here last night and they came back tonight.
They're committed, dude.
Yeah, they are committed to whatever the fuck it is that they're doing.
And so they've stood outside the show and they had a drum and a bullhorn and they were saying something about me being a Nazi sympathizer.
I saw they had a Facebook group and I'll be honest, I joined.
And I love to join a group, you know, especially a group about me.
A little bit of a narcissist.
So yeah, so they've been out there.
And I don't know.
I mean, what were they like to people who were here?
What do they say to you as you come to the show?
You're racist, Nazi.
You're Nazi.
Racist.
I gotta give a lady credit because first is it was a pretty good show out there.
And it's one lady, so much energy.
I'm an American actor.
That chick is on a level.
Come get this racist dick.
What's up, protester lady?
Well, it's always, by the way, you know what's so funny about it?
It's like in their little woke world, like racist, white supremacist, Nazi are all just like interchangeable terms.
And okay, to disclaim, all of them are bad, but they're not the same.
And if you're calling someone a Nazi, you probably don't even need to throw a racist in there at that point.
Like, it's probably like, yeah, we've already established that.
Because like, you are a supporter of genocide, and you're also a jerk.
Like, you're like, yeah, probably we got that part.
If we're up to Nazi, we're probably way past racist, you know?
But that's kind of like where they're at.
Like, if they see something that they think is racist, they go, you're a Nazi.
And, like, you do understand, Nazism was a very specific phenomenon in Germany from the early 30s to the early 40s, where my family didn't do so good.
Racism wasn't in Germany from the 30s to the 40s.
Racism was everywhere.
That's just part of life that people are fucking tribalistic and sectarian and hate other groups.
And the truth is, if you looked at the broad strokes of human history, this would probably be up with one of the least racist gatherings of people that's ever existed.
No one gives a shit.
I just don't care.
I saw one of them called me, they go, a race essentialist.
And I was like, what the fuck have I ever said that is race essentialist?
My position on race is I don't give a shit.
I don't care what race you are.
I want to hate you on individual reasons.
I want to hate you because of something you did.
Like all those white people outside protesting.
I hate all of them for protesting my show.
What if you have to be a race essentialist in order to acknowledge someone that's black, I mean white privileged?
Holy shit, you just opened up a wormhole.
Yes, you're right.
Yeah, you would have to put race first in order to acknowledge that this is the race that has had a poor history and doesn't have the same opportunities.
So what you're saying is we should really be counter-protesting them.
Yeah.
Who's got a bullhorn?
It's just a funny thing.
I was saying this the other day, but it's like a very funny, it's like a little microcosm of just what side is what.
And it has nothing to do even with like the politics of it.
Like I said earlier, it's all psychological.
It's all just like, here's a room full of people on a Saturday night who wanted to come out to a show and laugh and have a fun time, have a few drinks, come to the channel.
Juice!
Yeah.
You know?
You juice about it.
And then there's a group of people who want to spend their Saturday night outside, masked up, angry.
Just angry the whole night over nothing.
And I can't look at it on anything except a psychological level.
Like, that's, I'm just like, you don't hate me, dude.
You hate your dad.
I'm sorry.
It's not me.
It's really not.
You've just projected something onto me that has nothing to do with reality.
You're pissed off about you and where you're at.
And I'm sorry.
Because it looks like it sucks.
Now I figure this is like entry-leveling Tifa protest job.
This is like the Manila.
You got to show them here.
You got to put them the full weekend.
Yeah, there was the one dude who had like the full get up and the whole thing.
He might get a call for the video.
I kind of heard the protest guy.
He keeps his winning street going.
He could be in Portland.
I don't know.
The feisty lady on the drums are like, listen, there's a Jewish guy.
We need you to spend 10 straight hours calling him a Nazi.
And she's like, I got this.
I'll do it.
Let me see the fucking sheet.
So this is what they got a little flyer that was passing around.
We weren't able to get or copied one.
So nice fire.
Could have spent some money for the ink, but whatever.
Could we colour?
We went black and white.
It's okay.
Can we also just acknowledge how many people who didn't know us beforehand still showed up for the show?
Like, they just walk past that and they're like, yeah, I'll see some Nazis.
Dude, the perspective of someone who wasn't here for me, who was just having a check out a comedy show, I didn't know a bar when people are like, that's a Nazi comedy show.
I'd be like, I'm already bought the tickets.
I'm just going to check it out.
And if it's too Nazi-ish, I'll probably come out and join you guys.
What is that perspective like?
Because I imagine for someone who just came and doesn't know what they're coming to, and then they see, like, oh, this is a Nazi show.
And I imagine they come in here and be like, I wasn't getting a real Nazi vibe from these guys.
Like, they never talked about any of the Nazi shit.
I think maybe there was one dude who was like, just happened to be a secret Nazi and bought tickets unaware.
He's like, I'm out to see a comedy show.
And then there's a Nazi thing going on there.
And he's like, no way.
A Nazi thing?
And then I'm like, he's furious.
He's like, yeah, we didn't need any Nazi shit.
And I'm like, that was bullshit.
20 bucks down the drain.
People are just driving by.
They're like, oh shit, a Nazi show?
All right.
Dude, by the way, as I've said before, in my experience, I have talked to some fucking racist people.
And that's literally why they hate me.
Because I've talked to a few fucking people they don't like.
But the people who are like real racists, they're not secretive about that.
Like, they let you know way too much.
Even when you really don't want to know.
Like, you just be like, dude, I'm trying to find the fucking Marriott Hotel.
And I'm like, well, that's one by the Jews.
I'm still just trying to find that.
Because if I really accuse me of some fucking secret racist, and I just never come out with it, but alright, listen, let's give them a fair shot.
Okay, let's see what they have, what they have to say about my mother.
So here's the flyer that they're handing out.
It's got a picture of me.
It's not the best picture that I've ever seen.
Rob's offended.
He's leaving.
And it says, white supremacist sympathizer, which is already a weird term.
Like, they're not even accusing me of being a white supremacist, just that I don't hate white supremacists sufficiently.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, I will say, um, maybe I'm guilty of.
Because I don't care.
Just like I don't hate black supremacists.
You guys know who the black Israelites are?
They fucking, they used to post up where I'm from in New York City all the time.
And they are like self-avowed black supremacists.
Ironically, they claim to be the real Jews.
And that me and Rob are the fake Jews.
Which I'd be fine with.
Takes a lot of heat off of me.
But they're always talking about like they would get on the street corners and just start screaming about how white people are evil and that white people should be exterminated and black people are the true kings of the world and all this.
And I used to talk to them on the street and we would just laugh because it's ridiculous.
Now if you ask me, do I hate them?
No.
Why would I?
And here's a more important question.
Why don't I hate them?
Because they have no power over me.
So who gives a shit?
Now if they took over the fucking government and we're like, we're going to exterminate all white people, I'd be like, this is a little bit of an issue for me.
Now maybe we should organize a protest or something.
But they have no power.
They're screaming on the street.
They're dumb shit.
And so, by the way, I feel the exact same way about white supremacists.
I think it's stupid, but they have no power.
They're no fucking threat.
200 of them screamed in Charlottesville four years ago, and now I'm like, who cares?
What actual effect did that have on anyone's life?
Including those people outside?
Zero.
So fucking, if you're protesting something that has no power, maybe take a look in the mirror and ask yourself if there's something better that you could be protesting.
That's all I'm saying.
I agree with that.
All right.
So, Dave Smith, performing tonight at Comedy on the Carlson, is a, quote, comedian.
I mean, they've got a point, but really more of a podcaster these days.
But where the fuck, that's just a fucking unfair dig.
It's not like you go to fucking comedy college and get a certificate, motherfucker.
Like, I don't know.
I get on a stage and people laugh.
That makes me a comedian.
That's all it takes.
If you pay money to see me and then you laugh, then I am, by definition, a comedian.
Did that old guy without a career write this?
Legion Skanks Interview00:15:03
Who's that?
I don't know.
This is not a game to remember his name.
Old guy without a career?
The Bernie Bridges game.
I'm a friend.
Oh, that weird overlap there.
There you go.
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All right, he and his co-hosts regularly use their podcast, Legion of Skanks, and part of the problem.
All right.
They use Legion of Skanks and part of the problem to spread anti-black racism, transphobia, and misogyny.
Well...
That's the pillars of comedy.
Listen, it's not my fault that you just rattled off three hilarious topics, okay?
But you know the fucking real truth.
I mean, look, dude, the idea that either that part of the problem is there to spread racism, transphobia, and misogyny.
Misogyny, you have a point.
But the other two are way off target, no?
And like, no, you dumb motherfuckers.
Like, it's just anyone who's being honest, like, any of you guys who know the fucking two shows, right?
There's no, this isn't like debatable or subjective.
Legion of Skanks is to fucking make you laugh.
And part of the problem is to spread liberty.
That's the fucking ideas of the show.
That you can disagree with us about anything, but factually speaking, those are the purposes of those two shows.
They're not there to spread any of this type of shit.
And in terms of fucking, like, yeah, we make fun of all of it on Legion of Skanks because it's hilarious.
But it's not even like, you know what's hilarious about it is that it's fucking dogma.
And it's fun to make fun of dogma and say the shit you're not allowed to say.
Because then what's funny is usually how ridiculous it is that you're not allowed to say that shit.
That's all.
They don't fucking spreading race.
Whatever.
All right.
Let's get into that because they've got some quotes here.
Okay.
First one's a Louis J. Gomez quote.
And I haven't read the quote yet, but I have a feeling it's going to be rough.
Stray black people?
Okay.
When you come to watch the Legion of Skanks show, you should be hearing racist, sexive, offensive shit.
If you're upset about that, don't watch the show.
Alright, thank God.
That's the most offensive Louis J. Gomez quote that they could come up with.
I mean, that was really, I mean, this guy has said some pretty horrific shit.
So that was, I'm surprised that was the one that led it.
So.
They're watching a certain Tifa research team.
He's a staff of his game.
They could have done a little bit better.
I'll be honest.
Alright, so that's what they came up with.
So Lewis is basically saying that we're going to make jokes about all this shit.
We're not going to be politically correct.
We're going to say whatever the fuck we find funny, and we're going to try to make the most fucked up thing funny.
And that's what the show is.
So know that if you want to come to it.
And if you don't like that, then don't watch our show.
How is that not the most reasonable thing that you've ever heard, particularly coming from this maniac Puerto Rican?
A Puerto Rican who was an orphan raised by a fucking heroin addict mother.
I am so proud of him for coming up with something that reasonable at this point in his life.
Good for him.
They act like, look, man, it's a fucking internet podcast.
It's not a network TV show.
It doesn't happen to anyone.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not flipping through the channels and all of a sudden Legion of Skanks happened to me.
You have to go to it.
You have to want it.
Search it out and then go look at it.
So if you don't like it, don't fucking listen to it.
How fun would the other version of reality be?
Great to turn it on channel 11.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You just turned it off.
It's just legions gangsta.
And then, like, someone was doing like a woke podcast, and I was like, excuse me, there's some gay shit going on on the internet.
We got to shut that down.
Protest their thing.
All right.
Among Dave's stunts includes guest hosting of Proud Boys founders Gavin McGinnis's show where he interviewed neo-Nazi leaders and Charlottesville organizers Richard Spencer and Christopher Campwell.
But he wasn't a proud boy yet.
They were a medium level of proud at best.
They can't fault you for that.
It was prior to him finding his proudness.
Okay, I will say that sentence is true.
I did fucking guest host Gavin McGinnis's show, and I did interview both of those guys.
But it was in 2017.
I had conversations with two people you don't like.
Does that not, was like, and you're protesting that?
Do you not even feel insane when you do that?
Just gotta talk to people I don't like.
He shouldn't be able to work.
Like, all right, I don't know.
During the appearance, he gave them ample time to explain their plans for genocide.
No, that part is not true at all.
Neither of them, when I talked to him, was like, so I got these genocide blueprints.
I want to run by you.
And I was like, please share it with the group.
Like, what are you going to do?
Box cars, tried and true.
Absolutely.
That's the best way to, that's the best way to genocide people, I got to tell you.
Get the Zyklon.
Reasonably priced.
Does the job.
Like, no, neither of them said anything about fucking genocide at all.
And that's just fucking ridiculous.
So I don't know.
It's like, we told you guys here to talk some fucking genocide.
No, the funny thing is that I would do this a lot with those guys when I would interview them.
And part of it was because I wanted to like, you know, I always thought, and I've said this, you know, many times, but I always thought that like the alt-right, when they were a thing, which they're not really anymore.
But a lot of these kind of like really like, I don't know, whatever they would call like the far-right racist types, a lot of them get their power from their outrage.
So people are so outraged by them that that makes them kind of badass.
You know, like that people look at that.
Like when you see retards, like this group of people protesting someone, it makes you almost want to be like, well, you're completely unreasonable.
So what is this person really saying?
And so they get a lot of this fuel from like, well, they're the ones who generate all this outrage.
And when you have the attitude, which a lot of libertarians had, where they're like, you can't even talk to these people.
Don't even talk to them.
Don't interview them, you know?
Then you cede that ground to them.
Because then they're able to go, look, they're scared to even have this conversation with us because they know their ideas can't hold up to ours.
But I feel like my ideas can hold up to all of theirs.
And so it's like, I'm just going to take away all the outrage and let's talk.
Like people.
That's like a big thing that's lost on everyone.
Even someone who says they believe the most fucked up shit ever is still just a person saying they believe the most fucked up shit ever.
That's a lot different than like doing something really fucked up.
You know, like, even if there was some, you see that documentary where it was called, like, the face of hate or something like that, where there was that, like, Muslim woman who interviewed, like, like, KKK members and shit.
It was, like, a Netflix documentary.
But so there's, like, this Muslim immigrant woman, and she goes and she interviews, like, all these guys who are, like, real-deal neo-Nazis and all of that.
And it's just everything you would expect it to be.
Like, she literally goes in there and she's like, so why did you join this like neo-Nazi gang?
And it's always like some backward hillbilly who's like, well, when I was 12, my dad, you know, pistol whipped me, and then he left, and then my stepfather beat me with a hanger every day for five years.
And then...
But that's more or less it.
And then he's like, and then I met these white supremacists and they were like, if you come hang out with us, no one's going to pistol whip you.
And I was like, that sounds good.
And then like, the whole thing just collapsed.
Like, they're just fucked up people who have some fucked up views.
You could still talk to them.
Anyway, so my thing with talking to those guys was always like, well, let's just forget all the emotion.
Let's have a conversation about ideas and see what your ideas are.
And none of them ever, when you did that, were like advocating for genocide.
They would just say these things.
Like Richard Spencer said to me, I just want to live amongst white people.
And I was like, dude, you live in Montana.
You already have your dream.
Montana couldn't get any whiter if it tried.
There's no policy that could make Montana whiter than it is, you know?
So anyway, that's it.
None of them advocated genocide.
That's just not true.
But I don't think they care about that.
During this appearance, he gave them ample time to explain their plans for genocide, and Dave disagreed with none of these ideas.
What?
Like, what?
First off, they never said that.
And so it is true that I never had the opportunity to disagree with that.
But, yes, I'll come out here once and finally say it.
You got me.
I'm against genocide.
All these years of preaching the non-aggression principle probably didn't cover it.
But yes, genocide bad.
Congratulations, protesters.
Man, all right.
Now here's where it's going to get rough.
Some direct quotes from Dave.
All right, quote number one.
Let's see how bad this is.
The right to discriminate is something we should all fight for.
It gets very demonized, but you want to be able to decide who's going to come into your business, who's going to live in your community.
That's a big part of what a lot of the new right is about.
I believe in the right to discriminate.
Now, I don't remember when I said this, but yeah.
Well, I'll tell you, whether this is an exact quote or not, I stand by every goddamn word of that.
That's exactly right.
They should be able to discriminate.
And you know what's so funny is that these dumb fucks outside are literally boycotting because the club wouldn't cancel these shows.
You are actively protesting for discrimination, you retarded motherfuckers.
Do you not even realize that?
That your first quote on here is saying that I believe businesses have the right to discriminate and you are demanding a business exercise their right to discriminate against me.
That's what you're doing.
So of course we all believe it, but I also believe that this business has a right to collect the fucking money from all the people at Drew this weekend and not fucking kick me out because 12 fucking dorks want me gone.
Your first, but just imagine this.
It was 11 dorks and one feisty lady who's going to win the drumming words.
Man, Rob's really trying to bang this chick, huh?
He really is.
He was like, oh, Dave, I wouldn't call them all dorks.
That one chick seemed pretty cool and loose and ready to go.
I don't know.
Alright.
Shaved head, now be lady.
I was into it.
Alright.
I hope.
Listen, I hope it works out for you.
I'd say I'd put in a good word, but she's not a big fan.
Alright.
Okay, so...
And who looked nerdy and someone tried to shake their hand and she's like, that's the coming!
Alright, so I don't remember saying this either, but I'm not saying anything.
I do a lot of podcasts.
I might have said this.
Okay, so here's the quote.
A quote attributed to me.
You can discuss the nuance of the morality of somebody being like, of your going out.
I really hate when people transcribe the way I podcast because they're like, both like, alright, motherfucker, you can just cut those out and get to them and chase.
Like, you can protest, but you don't have to be a dick about it.
Okay, so I said, you can discuss the nuance of the morality of somebody going out and getting a girl fucking hammered who you know wouldn't have sex with you normally, then getting her hammered and having sex with her when she's like 12 shots in.
Right, let me finish the quote.
But I don't know, man, if you're 12 shots in and you're stumbling home and you're like, come here and fuck me, crying a fucking river, you didn't get raped.
That's my fucking quote, okay?
Now, I'm gonna say again, listen, I stand by that, and I'm right.
I'm right.
That's not, by the way, this is nothing, they're calling me a not, this has nothing to do with being a Nazi.
I'm just saying, listen, what I said in the first sentence, which is unbelievable that they included the first sentence, where I'm like, you can discuss the morality of it.
I'm not saying it's fucked up.
Drunk, Rape, and Lies00:07:18
There's something sleazy and wrong about doing it, but it's not rape.
There is a difference between someone being drunk and saying, come here and fuck me, and someone saying, no, stop, and you force yourself on them.
We shouldn't have the same word for both of those things.
And come on, motherfuckers.
Let's be fucking real about this.
Who amongst us hasn't had sex with someone drunk that you wouldn't have had sober?
Are you going to just claim, if that was rape, then everyone in this room is a rapist and a rape victim, all right?
But I'm just saying, like, so there's nothing even controversial about saying that.
I'm just saying the thing that most people don't say out loud, but we all know is true.
That, yeah, if you're drunk and you consent to something, that's not the same thing as not consenting to that thing.
What the fuck this has to do with being a Nazi?
I don't know.
Listen, man, me and my wife were drunk the first time we ever hooked up.
And now we're living a very happy life together.
If my wife wasn't so happy, sure, she probably could have ruined me.
But she decided, it's like she had one of two options here.
You're like, you could me to me and ruin my whole career.
Or we could go have a couple kids, buy a house, live a nice life, you know?
She chose the latter.
I don't think she's quite happy with the choice she made.
But we'll see.
Maybe it all comes out later.
All right.
Oh, this last one.
All right, I'll admit this reads bad on paper.
Can't trust a tranny.
Can't trust a tranny.
They lie.
It's inherent in the nature of being a tranny.
It's wrapped up in it.
They are a lie.
They're literally living a lie.
So you can't trust them on anything.
Now, I understand if that was read in court, it doesn't hold up so well.
But considering the fact that I am a professional comedian and that when I read this to a room of my audience, that everyone laughed, maybe consider the possibility that I was fucking joking, you retard.
It's a joke, okay?
Yes, it's a goddamn joke.
I'm not saying transgender people are capable of being honest, of course.
But goddamn, even as I read it on paper, pretty fucking hilarious, I gotta say.
I was like, I thought it was funny at the time, and reading it back, pretty goddamn funny.
It's funny.
I will say that I give them woke points because they didn't write tranny.
Like they wrote T-R pound sign and then why?
Because they were like, tranny is such a horrible word.
We can't even write it down.
Now, let's talk Nazis.
Nazis in there.
So I guess I'm fucking awful for calling a transgender person tranny on a podcast, but you're totally fine calling a Jewish libertarian a Nazi.
That's fucking...
Well, I don't identify as that either, motherfucker.
So.
Alright.
On Richard Spencer's vision of a white ethnostate, Dave said, I understand if you don't like it, but I really do say if you sit there and compare it to what people who are so against him advocate, I actually think it's not as brutal.
Okay, so that was, I was talking about the fucking neocons who were fucking, who hate the alt-right.
And I was talking about the fact that Richard Spencer, one of the things, I know, listen, he's fucking the most demonized guy ever.
I don't fucking really know the guy that well.
I had two conversations with him ever.
If you ask me, pretty sure he's a closeted gay dude.
But the point is that I don't take the threat of an ethnostate seriously.
But he was very, very...
What he said when he talked to me is he was very against all the wars.
All the wars in the Middle East, the World Wars, like everything.
He's like, we never should have fought World War I, World War II, the war in Iraq, the war in Vietnam.
None of these should have happened.
There were bloodbaths unnecessarily.
And I just want to go live amongst all white people.
And I was like, look, I'm a Jew from Brooklyn.
I don't want to just live amongst all white people.
I only want like 80%.
But the point is that I...
But I basically said, I was like, look, if you really compare that to like some neocon who wants to just go fucking like drone bomb fucking weddings, maybe that's not as brutal as launching a war in Iraq and Syria and Libya and Somalia and Yemen and Afghanistan and killing millions of people.
That was the fucking point.
So it's not, I'm sorry if you can't like have a non-binary thought where if I could compare two things and be like, you know, they're making it out like this is so brutal, but actually this one is, doesn't mean I'm endorsing either one of them.
They're both fucking awful.
But the major difference, I guess the major difference why I focus all my energy on being against all of those wars and not being against Richard Spencer's ethno-state is because one of those things exists in reality and the other one exists in Richard Spencer's head.
So who the fuck cares?
Like who cares?
Do you think fucking fucking...
I think Antifa would argue that we have to focus on microaggressions up home before we stop bonding brown people abroad.
Yeah, it's really your white privilege that makes you care about those Muslims being murdered abroad.
If you're not aware of the microaggression that are so micro all the time.
Dude, my favorite thing that Scott Borden used to say about Yemen when he was just trying to get lefties to give a shit about the war over there is he would go, you know, they got trans people too.
Like maybe that would make someone on the left actually give a shit that we're like committing a war of genocide against their people.
What if a trans were to die and all of that?
All right, so they end it finally in big letters.
We are calling for all people of good conscience to boycott comedy at the Carlson.
Yeah.
So I guess there's only 20 people of good conscience in all of Rochester.
That's what they got.
We have 20 fucking people.
I don't really know what to say about these guys.
I said earlier I would really, I would be happy to like talk to one of them.
I was gonna at first I was gonna just walk over to them and be like, let's talk guys.
But then I feel like one of them is gonna like throw a milkshake at me and then I'm gonna have to beat the shit out of that person and go to Rochester jail, which I'm really not in the mood to do.
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So I was like, maybe I just won't go talk to them.
But I would, if one of them actually wants to fucking make their fucking dumbass argument, I would be willing to have a conversation with them.
But I don't really think that's what they're in this for.
I don't really think they even have an argument in their own head.
I really doubt any of them have fucking like listened to anything I do.
I just, I don't think you could listen to my shit and really come away with the impression that I like genuinely hate any race or group of people.
Maybe I'm being naive, but I really don't think you could.
When you yell for eight or eight hours in the street, I don't really got energy for anything else.
Can you like talk about this?
Like, no, dude, I'm fucking, these whippets are wearing off.
I can't fucking, I can't fuck a fucking conversation right now.
You nuts dudes.
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Finding Life's Meaning00:04:43
All right, let's get back into the show.
Well, I don't know, Rob.
Do you have any other thoughts on the protesters?
No, just next time I want to get the outfits of joining them.
That's what I want to hear.
Oh yeah, Rob had an idea that was a really hilarious idea, but I'm just not, I don't commit to physical comedy enough to do it.
But Rob said that I should put on a mask and just go join the protest and like really get into it, lead chance, and then eventually just reveal myself.
Rob said I should go out there and protest with him all the way right until it was my set time and then literally just were there, just pull the mask off and be like, oh shit, I gotta go on stage.
All right, great job.
Great job, guys.
You guys hold it down here.
You guys are doing a great job.
Fucking fascism, alright?
It's all over.
Still Taylor's volume, dude.
Yeah, it really is.
It really is great.
Really win their trust, maybe crack a couple jokes while I'm out there, get them laughing a little bit.
You're gonna be like, all right, you gotta admit, that was a pretty good one, right?
Much of the eating out process.
Oh, no, I'm pretty sure you show up and you're a part of the family.
Like, I don't think there...
There was no application for that shit.
Like, that was just.
So the thing I come back to that I really do, like I said, I find it so much more psychologically interesting.
Because there's nothing really interesting about the argument.
Like, there is no, you know, you're a Nazi.
Okay.
What's really, what do you even say to that?
But I find the psychology fascinating.
Like, I really do just wonder, like, who is that person who really believes that this is such a threat that it must be stopped and is willing to stand outside for hours in order to try to get it on a Saturday night?
I really wish, listen, I can't, ladies, I can't tell you what to do.
But if there's like any young single ladies in here, if you could just fuck a couple of these guys, I really, I'm not, I can't force you to do this, but if you could just throw a couple of over-minded kids?
There's like just one single chicken that comes out to our show.
You're gonna throw in a teabook?
Rob, have a heart.
Rob doesn't need this, okay?
Rob can get laid somewhere else.
These kids, this is their only chance, all right?
A hand job.
All I'm asking is give out a mercy hand job.
I think it would clear all this shit right up.
I literally think the dudes who are out there need to get laid once.
And they'd be like, what the fuck have I been talking about?
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I just came out of this stupor.
I was calling everything a Nazi for a while.
I don't know.
I guess I could get laid.
I mean, that's what's...
I do feel, I feel bad for him.
And I don't, I mean that genuinely.
I think our whole fucking, our whole society is so fucked up, and that's why people like that are a product of it.
It really is.
We offer like the whole, I think the real problem is that there's like, we've failed on such a large fucking level.
Like all of our systems are so fucked up that these kids, you know, these guys, my guess, I don't know this for sure, but I'm pretty confident saying, I don't think anyone who's out there grew up in like a loving, stable home with two parents who were together, were encouraged their whole life, like had a good life, had opportunities.
These are kids.
Where do you think they got all the baseball gear from?
That's from dads.
Nah, dude, that was like from some dude fucking their mom who fell bad.
It was like, I don't know, I'm not going to teach him how to catch, but I'll buy him a balloon.
And then he's got to figure it out from there.
It's like just one random piece of equipment they stole on the team with the cashier's mask.
Well dude, but like if you did, I'm just saying, if you grow up in a loving, stable environment, two parents who are there for you and love you and encourage you, if you enter a society where you have a reasonable path to go make a good life, to get married, have kids, provide for your family, own a house, like just very basic things.
If you have all of that, you don't fucking end up out here doing this shit.
Just don't.
But when we rob all of that from so many of these young people and they're fucking raised with like in these broken families and they're fucking medicated from the time they're like eight years old and then they fucking get into fucking college, they go $100,000 in debt, come out and realize they got nothing they could do for that.
They work at Starbucks, they owe 100 Gs, they fucking can't get laid, they're weird, awkward social people.
They're like, am I ever going to own a house?
How fuck am I going to own a house when they're going for $500,000, I'm 100 G's in debt, and I work at Starbucks?
China, Russia, and Debt00:06:54
You know what I mean?
And I kind of, and then, so it's like, what gives meaning to their life?
Well, maybe standing up against a Nazi.
You know?
Maybe that's the thing that gives meaning to life.
The problem is there are no fucking Nazis in our society except the ones in Washington, D.C.
So if you want to fucking protest, go protest, man.
All right, do you want to just go into questions and shit?
I'm down, yeah.
I thought I love, whenever I do the live podcast, I'd like to answer, do a question and answer segment.
So if anyone's got questions, do we have a...
No, we got right here.
If you guys want to line up or not.
If anyone wants to come ask a question, come ask on the microphone right here.
Feel free.
Don't be shy.
Come on up.
All right, we got one guy right there coming up.
The rest of you are like, I have not going to ask you.
So I'm a Russian American.
Get out.
You are on the wrong side of that war, sir.
I really do turn Nazi.
So for me, tonight has been a really interesting night because this is the first time I've met.
And probably, you know, after I had a kid not too long ago, these two three old people.
Congratulations.
And I just want to know, you know, the situation between, you know, America and Russia.
I mean, we're realistically two great superpowers who, in reality, are going to be coming into a situation where the UNICEF is going to have to decide between joining China or joining Russia.
And the question is to what will the U.S. do?
And is it going to be a favorable outcome?
And is it going to lead to prosperity in Europe?
Is it going to lead to...
What will the world be if the situation arises where Russia and the United States have to be allies?
Do something interesting.
That is a very interesting question.
Okay, so, well, first of all, congratulations on having the kid.
And that's the best.
And I wish you guys all the best.
So, look, I gotta say, number one, Russia is not a superpower.
They're just not.
They got a lot of nuclear weapons, but they're not a superpower.
Russia has a GDP the size of like fucking Pakistan or some shit.
I mean, they're just, they're literally, if you think about it like this, right?
As like Fortin makes this point a lot, but we, America, we are so much richer than Russia, and we can't afford to be a world empire.
Like, we're $30 trillion in debt over this shit.
So, the idea that Russia could actually afford this, and I also do think that Russia has, they have learned to some degree their lesson from overextending themselves and bankrupting themselves when the Soviet Union collapsed.
The idea that they're even going to recoup the Soviet blocs into their country is very far-fetched.
The idea that they do that and then expand further than that is, I think, very far-fetched.
So, to me, there is just absolutely no reason to be adversarial to Russia.
They have a ton of fucking nuclear weapons between the two countries.
We have like 90% of the world's nuclear arsenal.
They're no threat to us in any other way.
So, of course, the only thing is just make sure it never comes to a nuclear war and then everything's cool.
China is stronger, certainly, economically, but I also just completely reject the idea that China is any type of threat.
You know, I heard as we're pulling out of Afghanistan, these like some of the right-wing kind of warhog types are like, well, now we've left the door open for China to take over Afghanistan.
Like, who really thinks China is looking at what America did over the last 20 years and going, Yeah, we're next.
We're gonna bankrupt ourselves by going into Afghanistan and then pull out in disgrace in 20 years.
China is, if listen, I would suggest read David Stockman on this.
He is the best on China.
And he breaks it down.
China is a gigantic bubble that is going to burst.
They have, if you think what our Federal Reserve does is crazy, look at what China does with their currency.
Look at the building projects that they do.
I don't think there is really a concern that either of them are going to take over the world.
I don't think there's any idea that they are going to be any type of challenge to American NATO military force just seems silly.
We're in the age of H-bombs.
We can't have a war like that.
It's just the whole world will be destroyed.
So what are our options?
I don't think our options are to choose China or Russia.
If we were going to, it would probably make more sense to ally with Russia.
But that would be my guess, which is part of why.
Well, that's part of why the whole democratic Russiate shit was so ridiculous because it's not the idea that Russia is some boogeyman threat is ridiculous.
But the truth is that what we really should be concerned about, and this is the great lesson that we should have taken from the 20th century, was that if you're really concerned about battling it out with any of these other superpowers, the thing you need to do is be as rich a country as possible because that's who's going to win out.
The wealthier country.
And we all know what creates wealth, and it's free market motherfucking capitalism.
That's what's going to make us wealthier than these countries.
So that's all you got to fucking do.
Keep our society as free as possible.
And anything that China ever does bad to us is always through our own government.
You know, it's like, what are you afraid?
That China is going to take over and institute their social credit system here in America?
Well, guess what?
Bill de Blasio is already doing it.
So that's what we got to fucking worry about.
The Chinese government is no threat to you and me, or at least not nearly as much as our own government is a threat to us.
They don't rob us nearly as much as our own big bankers and crony capitalists and all that shit.
So that'd be my best answer.
Thank you.
And the last is even as Russia's far too long, and I appreciate the support.
Yeah.
Pro-Russian propaganda.
It's Russia.
Come on, we love you.
That's right.
There you go.
There you go, brother.
Very nice to meet you.
Trump Masks and Biden VP00:15:19
What's up, Sarah?
How are you?
Mr. Smith, I want to thank you.
This crazy Nazi defending the family of childhood and fatherhood.
Thank you, Mr. Smith.
And now that we have gotten rid of Miss Cuomo, any thoughts on Kathy Coca?
She's the one who just got appointed, right, from him.
I mean, I don't have any particular thoughts on her.
It seems like she's completely on board with the whole COVID program, and that's all that I really care about.
I want to see Larry Sharp run again for Don Ray.
So maybe he'll end up doing it, and that would be pretty cool.
But yeah, I don't know.
I assume she'll just be every bit as bad as any establishment Democrat, but with the added benefit that she doesn't have the perceived legitimacy of being elected.
So it's always better in these situations because at least usually that person can't get away with quite as much because they don't have that fake like, oh, I have a mandate from the people or anything like that, you know?
What's up, sir?
How are you?
Good, are you good?
Good, good.
What would the top of the finish night if the retarded head showed up?
I'll be honest, I came here, I had nothing prepared, so it was a good thing.
I'll be honest, I paid those guys 20 bucks a pop.
I just really, I need it.
You gotta create a little bit of controversy in order to sell some tickets, you know?
So I, no, but there's a weird dynamic.
I was talking about this with the other guys, with the other comics in the green room, but there's this weird dynamic in comedy sometimes where there'll be a heckler and then you just make fun of the heckler and like it crushes in the room.
And then you're kind of grateful that the heckler heckled you, but you're still like, fuck that guy.
Because he tried to ruin the show, but it ended up making it better.
But you're like, so fuck you for trying to ruin it.
But seriously, thank you, because that worked out so good.
And I had fun in the stand-up show earlier on the podcast, and I had a lot of fun riffing on them.
I do find it, you know, like it's a fun thing.
So somewhat grateful in a weird way, but still fuck them.
But what's going on, dude?
How's it going?
How do you honestly think Lewis will fare against Jason Ellis?
Oh, man.
Honestly, honestly, Lewis has been taking this really seriously and training really hard.
And Lewis can fight.
Like, he is not bad.
I mean, Lewis has, Lewis has good hands, and he's really strong.
Like, and he's got power.
He hits hard.
He's tough.
He's not afraid to.
I mean, I watched Annie White Bitch.
He's having him arranged you.
He's not.
Lewis has always been this just as a dude.
Lewis is not afraid of a fight.
He's not afraid to get hit in the face.
And he's been training and taking it really seriously.
So I think he's doing the right things to give himself the best chance that he can have.
That being said, it kind of depends on where Jason Ellis is at and how old and how many surgeries has he actually had.
Because Jason Ellis was like a legitimate amateur MMA fighter.
So on paper, he should win the fight.
But I don't count Lewis out and I'm rooting hard for him.
So that's my brother.
What about hand versus Lewis?
Oh, hand every time.
Lewis will get fucking wrecked by hands.
Anyone who knows what that game is, Lewis, we have this game where Lewis fistfights my hand.
And it's impossible to beat a hand in a fistfight.
Like he just tries to punch it and I move it real quick.
It's very easy to avoid.
It's pretty funny to watch.
Well, he has the intelligence of a four-year-old, so it's right about on par for where he should be.
I just haven't seen it.
Yeah, oh no, it's wonderful.
Sir?
That's a great thing.
No, it's great.
Sir, yes?
So have you thought who you want as a VP and also would there be a gas digital super PAC to back you?
Nothing yet on the super PAC.
And as a VP, I don't know.
Who do you think?
I'd say Louis J. Gomez is out there, but he's going to back you 100%.
Yeah, no, that's not going to happen.
But I don't know.
There's a lot of really great people out there who are looking at all of them.
He'll call them who would just be like, is a Puerto Rican orphan of color?
Just say that constantly.
It's always like, well, it's a Puerto Rican orphan of color.
I feel that, and then it doesn't matter.
Shivers in there.
I don't know.
I got a couple people who I'm thinking about, but I want to talk to them before I say anything publicly.
But it would be, there's a lot of really great people who would be there to deal with.
Think of some names.
It won't be Louis J. Gomez, though.
That's what I'll tell you.
Thanks.
Ari?
Well, no, I mean, he'll fucking steal that whole thing from me.
I'm not going to get dosed by my VP.
How would that look?
How would the media run with that?
What's up, dude?
I was going to say to Shane Gillis for VP.
He already has his own VP responsibilities.
I can't take him away from those.
Fucking, Shane was just up here, wasn't he?
Recently?
Last week.
Alright, Alec, were you there?
No.
That's right.
You come from me, motherfucker.
Fuck Shane Gillis.
That guy's not going to be famous anymore.
He's great, by the way.
Go see Shane Gillis next time he's in town.
So, Dave, I have a kind of a long-winded question for you.
So I just moved back.
I grew up here and then lived in California for about eight years and then drove back during COVID and moved back here just to be closer to family and more normal people and not Californians.
And so I'm wondering, because you cross over from California into Nevada, and it's like all of a sudden people are more normal, not nine masks.
You can go to stores and just be around regular people.
It was like that kind of most of the way across the country.
Then back here, it's like a little bit more branch committee and kind of craziness, but like it's not nearly as bad as New York City.
But we're starting to see more vaccine mandates, especially from New York State now for a lot of different professions.
I'm just wondering, I can't quite tell whether people are almost over the bullshit or whether it's going to just kind of go psychotically in each direction and break up.
Okay, okay, so that's a really good question.
And I don't know that I have the answer to it, but that's the most important question.
But so first off, the branch Covidian thing...
Right.
Well, that's what you said, right?
Branch Cavidians.
And that refers to the COVID crazy people.
So I don't...
So let me tell you why I don't like that.
The Branch Davidians were the good guys in that fight, okay?
So let's not make it out like they were the fucking bad guys, alright?
They were fucking some, like, you know, okay, maybe that guy might have fucked a couple teenagers, but I'm just saying, the fucking ATF and the FBI are the ones who burn children alive in that thing.
So they're the fucking bad guys.
That's the only reason I've seen Wreck and World use that term before.
I'm like, I don't like that.
I don't like demonizing the victims of that.
Anyway, that's my own, that was my real autistic moment to not answer the question at all.
But so, all right, so one of the things that I've really thought about a lot during the whole last 16 months, and I think, by the way, whatever your politics are, like, you could be left, right, libertarian, whatever.
If you haven't re-examined a lot of things over the last 16 months, then you're crazy.
This is a whole new world that we live in, and you'd be nuts to not kind of re-examine everything and see what actually really matters now.
And one of the things that I've really had to come to grips with is how much more important culture is than law.
And, you know, where I live is like a suburb.
It's a very nice suburb, but it's very right-leaning.
It's much more of like a Trump country than it is Joe Biden country.
Now, the state I live in is very Democrat, and they have all the worst COVID restrictions.
But where I live, no one gives a shit.
No business cares if you wear a mask.
No kids are wearing masks outside.
We're just living our lives.
And you realize what's really important here is not the law that's written down on a piece of paper somewhere in a state senate.
What really matters are your neighbors and how they interact with you and where their psychology is.
And from my perspective, you know, I really am, ideologically, I'm like a pure libertarian.
I just believe in human liberty and that everyone should be free to live whatever lifestyle they want to as long as they don't violate other people's rights, their property, their persons, anything like that.
So I come at this like from a philosophical abstract, you know, background.
Like that's what I'd like.
You know, the Democrats and the Republicans are the same fucking thing.
And they really are.
And they govern the same.
And Donald Trump kept, you know, Obama kept all of George W. Bush's foreign policy going, and then Trump kept all of Obama's foreign policy.
And if that doesn't tell you it right there, they're all, but you can't deny through this COVID thing.
It's like, no, no, no, there is a difference.
There is a difference if you're surrounded by Biden yard signs or surrounded by Trump yard signs.
And what that practically means to my life has nothing to do with what their foreign policy or their monetary policy or their fiscal policy was.
What it means is that the Trump supporters, the Trump yard signs around me means, in effect, practically, realistically, in my life, everyone's trying to raise their family, not buy into the bullshit, and go about their lives.
And the Biden yard signs mean they're going to call the cops on you if you're not socially distancing.
That's what it means in reality.
And I just, I can't ignore that and pretend like, oh, I have no dog in this fight.
If I really care about real liberty in people's lives, one of these groups seems more or less content to let everyone have their liberty, and the other one seems to want to play their part in this totalitarian, dystopic nightmare.
So that's, like, you have to acknowledge that reality.
Now, from what you said, I think that you hit the fucking, you know, million-dollar question.
Where do we go from here?
Well, we're at a fork in the road.
And we've started going in a direction that's pretty bad.
You know, things really did loosen up for a while, and it looked like we were going back to freedom.
And now it's like, oh, there was this Delta variant, and now we're veering into this very, very bad place.
And I do think there's going to be a spike in the Delta variant.
That's what they're all predicting, and it makes sense to me.
And since we're not measuring hospitalizations and cases anymore, remember that was on the ticker on CNN?
Well, they don't want deaths.
No, they want cases.
So we're just going to measure cases, and it'll shoot up, and everyone will go, oh my God, this variant's out of control.
And no one's looking at the real deal, which is like, yes, the cases are skyrocketing, but the hospitalizations and deaths are way better than they were during previous peaks.
And this is obvious for obvious reasons, because this is how coronaviruses evolve.
They're going to be more contagious and less deadly.
And part of this is because of the vaccine.
Part of it is that people do get some immunity from the vaccine.
A big part of it is because there's tremendous natural immunity.
There's a lot of people have gotten COVID at this point.
And so they're more resistant to the new variations.
Either way, that's not really what's important.
What's important is how the government's going to react.
And I would say at this point, if you're in a blue state, as I bet everyone in this room is, You want to really be paying attention over the next couple months and be ready to move if you have to.
I mean, I really, that's the best advice I can give to people.
Listen, I'm just saying, be ready to if you have to, because this shit is already pretty crazy.
And I'll tell you, at this point, February 2020 was a long time ago.
That's not really normal anymore.
This is more normal now.
And it's a depressing thing to say, but it's a realistic thing.
But if you go to Texas, if you go to Florida, if you go to South Dakota, it is February 2020.
Like it really is.
It's like none of this shit fucking happens.
I mean, not none of it.
There's a little bit of masks in certain stores and shit, but pretty much like none of it.
And that option is there for you.
So I would say try to be as able to move on the drop of a dime.
We didn't find any corona bullshit up here whatsoever.
When the school sword minutes are a mask.
I traveled the country quite a bit now for Corona.
And I gotta tell you, this is being one of the more relaxed regions and that includes.
Since we've been here this weekend, yeah, for sure.
No one's wearing fucking masks.
Like if you swing American Land in Rochester, you wouldn't be like, wait, what the fuck's going on in this country?
That's true.
So it seems, you know, be thankful for that.
It does seem like a city, that's why.
Yeah, yeah.
And you can worry about the governor.
Like, I have two small kids, and they're going to have to wear masks at school because of the...
No, she's a leading.
The only one being decisions to be fine.
The kids wearing masks, that's what.
How old are your kids?
One and a half and three.
Okay.
Well, congratulations, by the way.
Those are awesome.
Both awesome pages.
And, you know, that's, I mean, I think you've got to really decide what your line is and, you know, don't compromise on that.
Because the thing to keep in mind, I mean, my advice, and you know this as a man and a father, but the most important thing is that you give those kids the best childhood you can give them.
You do that, you're going to be ahead of the game.
So never sacrifice that for anything.
If there's any way you can avoid sacrificing that, you never fucking sacrifice that.
That's the most important thing.
That's what's going to really matter.
Give them the best childhood they can have wherever you can do that.
I think we got time for these three more.
These three more?
All right, then we'll wrap it up.
All right.
Other than the obvious answer, which is the military, what kind of lines us into the way that we can.
Thank you, Rob.
Thank you for taking this man's dignity right in the middle of his question.
Hey, Alex versus the military.
What allows us to get away with, you know, potentially funding COVID and then the 20 years in Afghanistan and a lot of things that we are doing.
And that's my question.
Corporate Press Reliance00:02:44
What about us get away with that?
Well, I mean, I think basically the answer is that if you have a monopoly, I mean, really think this through.
Like if you didn't, if this wasn't already the world we were living in and we just lived in a normal free world and then someone proposed to you, they were like, well, let's say I control like brainwashing children from age five to 18, then again from age 18 to 21, and I control the entire corporate press and every major corporation.
You get away with a lot of shit when you control all of it.
So that's really what it is.
And particularly the corporate press.
They've really exploited a weakness in life, which is that it's like basic division of labor specialization.
None of us, this is one of the things that's so fascinating about human beings, and it's amazing.
It's the reason why we can be sitting right now, like we are sitting in a room filled with like there's cameras and microphones and people, there's electricity, there's lights on, there's all of these things.
Like an unbelievable amount of things have to come together in order for this to happen.
And no one in this room understands any of it.
We don't know what the fuck any of this even is.
It might as well be magic.
Like no one knows how to build a microphone or run a fucking electrical grid or fucking like what the fucking trucking route to get the liquor here was.
There's like all of this fuck.
Now maybe one of you knows a little bit about like one of those things, but none of you knows about all of those things.
And that's the beauty of humanity, right?
We all break up voluntarily, by the way, with no coercion involved and specialize in these different things.
Every single person in here knows something about a particular subject that everyone else in here is ignorant about.
And we rely on them.
Like we just rely that someone who knows how to do fucking electrical work put together the fucking lighting system in here, all this, right?
And we all, so we rely on expertise.
And most people, they don't fucking know about all the shit that's going on in Afghanistan or going on in the fucking Wuhan lab or any of that.
And so you have to rely on someone to fucking tell you.
Okay, this is what's going on.
But the people they're relying on are fucking blood-soaked monsters who are mouthpieces for war criminals.
And so that's the fucking game.
Attack the fucking, you know, the media, undercut their monopoly, fucking attack academia, undercut their monopoly, and then you try to fucking wake people up.
Kratom Balance and Value00:03:07
At least that's my plan.
But that's what I would say.
Thank you for the question.
I appreciate it.
So Dave, you are kind of the leader of the Mises Copics.
I don't want to say that.
Really, you're talking to this guy here, Martin Rebecca.
I have two kids, right?
And I just had a second kid that's six months old.
Congratulations.
I'm just wondering, do you have the time?
Do you have the time to put in?
Because you believe in your family, right?
And in the end, it's tough, right?
Well, I mean, look, there is something makes it harder to leave to go do anything when you have a family.
But in a way, it also makes it, you know, more necessary to support your family and stuff like that.
So I'm very fortunate and blessed to be in a situation where I have a very flexible career.
And I work a lot, but I'm also able to do a lot of work from home.
And I've been, the thing probably I'm most proud of that I've ever accomplished in my life is that my daughter has had me and her mother full-time for her entire almost three years of her life.
I mean, I'll come like do a show, you know, like I'm here for the weekend and then go home.
But like my wife, you know, doesn't work.
I mean, she's like eight months pregnant right now.
So that's...
But my wife is with her full-time and I'm with her all the fucking time.
So she's like never, you know, so yeah, I mean, you have to find that balance.
And the most important thing to me is always making sure that I'm very present in my kids' life.
But yeah, this is the reason I do this shit is because I want to make sure my kids have a really good life going forward.
So it's always, all that shit's always a balancing act, you know what I mean?
But yeah, no, it is.
But at the same time, it's not nearly as tough as just some guy, you know, like I know some really great fathers who work like 10 hours a day and just have to be away from their kids all the time, but they got to do what they got to do to support the family.
So you just got to find that balance and do it the best way you can.
But especially nowadays with everything you do online and stuff like that, you can make it work and not be away that much.
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What's up, sir?
Hey, guys.
I don't know about that hair.
Do you belong outside in the rally?
Are you one of us?
I knew I was going to get milkshakes before I got out of here.
Damn, man.
Dude, those are regulation lani and teeth and caprice.
This is...
I was just going to say that.
Well, first of all, I just want to say congratulations on your seem to be newborn.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
I'm very, very excited.
On the subject of children, two sort of things.
Granted, the most desired career for kids coming up with the new generation is being a YouTuber or a Twitch streamer.
And granted, the degree of institutional capture of universities and colleges and the necessity of those two institutions for a lot of careers, doctors, engineers, and things.
What do you think is sort of the value correction that is necessary to walk the line between those two things?
Wow.
Well, that's a good question.
I mean, what type of value correction is necessary?
A pretty big one, you know, like a gigantic one.
But I think that, you know, there are, look, nobody can predict the future and say exactly what's going to happen, but you can notice patterns that are clearly unsustainable.
And that, right, so you don't like, it's like if you're blowing up a balloon with like a pump and you just won't stop blowing it, you know, you can say with certainty, this is going to pop.
Now, to say exactly when it's going to pop is a little bit tough, but you know it's going to happen.
And you have this dynamic in like in college where the prices of college have been going up and up and up and up.
The number of people going to college has been going up and up and up and up.
And the value of a degree has been going down and down and down.
That cannot continue forever.
At a certain point, the price goes up enough and the value of the degree goes up, it goes down enough that people aren't going.
And I do think that if there's one silver lining from all this COVID stuff, it's that that has really been exposed, where these Ivy League schools are not dropping their tuition, and you're no, like half the time they weren't even in person.
So you're literally just going to Harvard to get a lecture online, which is already on YouTube.
You're just, it was so obvious.
You're just paying for the piece of paper that says I graduated from Harvard, right?
So there's also been record high numbers of people pulling their kids out of elementary and middle schools to homeschool their kids.
I think that's a very positive trend.
A very, very positive trend.
So I think that we're going to hopefully be able to undercut their capture of the universities by just getting less and less people in there.
As you said, for certain careers, you're still going to need to go in.
But I do think almost the best solution, we're kind of waiting for their unsustainable system to implode, which is going to happen, but we don't know exactly when.
But the best thing you can do is attack it from an individualistic level.
Focus on your kids, your family.
You know, make sure that they kind of get brought up with the values and knowledge that will inoculate them from a lot of these outside forces, which I really do believe in.
I do think that is quite possible to do.
So raise your kids the right way.
And that's the best bet I've had.
I had some last question.
This guy is so beautifully bald.
I feel like we should make him the last one.
There we go.
All right.
We'll wrap up on the bald egg.
I'm really nervous because I've never talked in a microphone before, but I just want to say that.
I have a question.
I just want to say that Epstein didn't tell us all.
Dude, I love, I gotta say, I love that fucking meme.
I just think it's so great.
I think it's so great.
And that's a real white pill moment for you.
It's really encouraging.
That's the most encouraging sign about where we're going in this country is that just massive amounts of people are simply going, I don't believe you.
I just don't believe.
Listen, I don't know what the fuck happened with Epstein, but I know one thing for sure.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe any of this fucking dance.
Clearly some shady shit went on there.
And so, yeah.
The Russian guys acting.
They're Russian.
Russian guy.
What are we doing?
All right, you get the final question.
I got one last question.
One last question.
So what else COVID propaganda will be baloney?
What's happened in all the problems?
Sir, language.
Just children here.
We don't even have COVID in Russia.
That's how good Russia is.
COVID.
Take two shots, vodka, fuck prostitutes.
No more COVID.
What problem?
I think all of you would like it.
I get COVID.
Wrestle Bear next day.
No problem.
Sorry.
Situation, we'll kill you first.
Nationalism vs Globalism Fight00:03:42
The question that I have is, are we in a situation globally, globally, and I'm not talking about just in the United States, where we're battling between national government and a global, a post-globalist state that now rules ain't really done.
We just have to share freedom to the situation.
So this presents it to...
Yeah, look, there's something to the struggle between nationalism and globalism, right?
And that, like, it's always, well, it's always preferable to have the most localized, decentralized government.
So if it is a pit between, like, America, America first-style, like, government, versus global government, well, yes, the Americanism is way better than that.
But at the same time, I think that, like, this was almost like the old John Burr society mentality, right?
that we gotta really support nationalism to fight globalism.
But all I'm saying is that like our national federal government has done more to aid globalism than anything else.
So just be careful about falling into that trap that it's like, oh, we have to support this like big powerful federal government so that we're not this one world government because the bigger you make the federal government, the more fucking like capturable it is.
And then it gets captured by all types of other interests, which is basically what we're seeing right now, is that it's like, yeah, it's like the government isn't like one conspiracy working against the American people.
It's just a free-for-all gravy train.
And there's all types of like, you know, multinational corporations that just fill that vacuum.
And they're like, okay, we'll buy off this power machine.
And then they use it for their own interests.
So really, I think the push shouldn't be for nationalism.
The push should be for radical decentralization.
And that the most local authority, local power, those are the only governments that are ever in any way accountable to their people anyway.
So why can't, you know, why can't fucking, you know, Florida go do what Florida wants to do and Texas can do what Texas wants to do and Portland can go do what they want to do.
And that's fine.
You know what I mean?
Like, we're not going to be able to convince every person in Portland to reject all this dumb shit.
So let's at least try to break up the power structure as much as possible.
And I'll say this, and we got to wrap on this.
But the last thing I'll say is that it's not just that like decentralization is my pitch.
Like, I think it's the better way to go.
It's like from a medical point of view, it is the only solution to our problem.
It's the only solution.
We can either fight a culture war forever where we're constantly fighting over who gets control of the federal government and then this 50% gets to get their boot on the neck of the other 50% of the country.
And we've seen it as the government gets bigger and bigger, the culture war gets hotter and hotter and hotter, where at a certain point we can all just decide we're tired of this shit and we don't care.
I don't care if they have like a transgender bathroom in Portland and they don't in Florida.
I just don't fucking care.
And who should care?
Like let local communities decide how they want to do these things and that's that.
Like do any of you really care if like they want to like in fucking Brooklyn, New York, they don't want to call the kids boys and girls because they don't believe in gender and in Alabama they want to teach Christian prayer in school.
Ending Culture War Forever00:00:50
Does anyone care?
Like fine.
So what's the obvious answer here?
So you do it your way and they'll do it their way and go in peace, brother, and we can all fucking live our lives.
Isn't that better than fighting the war over it?
I don't know.
By the way, I don't want to teach any of that shit for the record.
I'll be homeschooling my kids.
But listen, man, Rochester, I got to tell you guys, man, this is my first time here, and I just so much love at all of the shows.
And it means the world to me that you guys come out.