Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein critique shifting government mandates, contrasting the American Postal Workers Union's opposition to federal vaccine coercion with teachers' unions prioritizing job security over reopening schools. They challenge Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz's historical justifications for mandates, citing CDC data showing vaccinated individuals transmit Delta variants as readily as unvaccinated people. The hosts argue that lockdowns lack scientific efficacy and speculate the true goal is creating permanent reliance on boosters, while warning that public school failures regarding critical race theory may eventually drive parents toward private alternatives to escape government overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
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Government Overreach and Rights00:13:06
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All right.
Today's episode, we're going to talk a bunch about COVID because what the hell else are you going to talk about, right?
Mandatory vaccinations.
Are they coming?
Are they kind of here already?
That's one of the things I wanted to talk to you about.
There's a lot going on right now.
A lot of things kind of shifting.
Brian, you got those videos I sent you, right?
I sent you a couple of things that I wanted to.
I should have checked with you before we started.
But so there's a lot of different things that are going on that have really caught my eye and that they should kind of all be, I think, in people's minds to get a gauge of what exactly is going on here.
So number one, Joe Biden announced that he is now, for federal employees, vaccines or submitting to regular testing is now mandatory.
So that's something.
Usually that is a precursor to what they kind of want to do with everyone.
Federal employees are the ones who the federal government has the clearest jurisdiction over.
So they usually start with them because you can't really fight it on a constitutional level.
And they're going to make them wear masks, which is just to be annoying.
I actually heard on the radio today that the doctor was saying it was 880 NEWS and they were saying the importance of the travel restrictions and mask wearing to at a minimum inconvenience those are unvaxed as an incentive to get them to be vaxed right, although of course the CDC is recommending that they still wear them after they're vaxed because you know uh reasons.
Um okay, so uh well, I mean, I guess there are actually some reasons I shouldn't.
I shouldn't make fun of that, because there is.
There is some uh Evidence suggesting that the vaccine, as Dr. Fauci said, is not really going to stop you from spreading the Delta variant, which, of course, is the dominant variant that's around in America now and in many places in the world.
But there's a lot of, of course, just like throughout this whole thing, there's a lot of the science that, let's just say, is not being followed by the scientism cult.
So just when I talk about this, when I talk about Joe Biden, you know, mandating vaccine and COVID testing for federal employees, again, just keep in mind, I mean, I'm not saying that the vaccine is going to be mandated for everybody tomorrow, but it's not as if this is just some random person at some random company.
This is the president of the United States mandating federal employees.
Also, not just some random person is the former mayor of New York City, Bill de Blasio.
And he was on Morning Joe this morning and he said this.
Let's play the clip.
12 years old.
And look, I'm a parent.
My kids went to New York City public schools.
If my kids were going to school in September, I would be running to get them vaccinated right now.
And like was said a moment ago, we used to do this as parents all the time for a variety of vaccinations.
We've got to shake people at this point and say, come on now.
We tried voluntary.
We could not have been more kind and compassionate as a country.
Free testing everywhere you turn.
Incentives, friendly, warm embrace.
The voluntary phase is over.
We can keep doing those things.
I'm not saying shut it down.
I'm saying voluntary alone doesn't work.
It's time for mandates because all right.
So, I mean, just saying this is just openly being advocated now.
This is where the Overton window has moved.
Yeah, that's, there you go.
We couldn't have been more compassionate, Rob, as a society.
Remember when we deemed you unessential and kicked you out of your job and then printed trillions of dollars to give to big corporations?
That was us being nice.
Now it's time to get serious.
You ever hear Gene Epstein say the Hitler joke, his favorite Hitler joke?
Which I love.
I love like old Jewish dad jokes, but it's a bunch of like Nazi expats go and find Hitler in Argentina or wherever he's living, and they try to convince him to come back and lead Germany once again and be the Fuhrer again.
And after a while of convincing him, he goes, all right, fine, I'll do it.
But this time, no more Mr. Nice Guy.
I just love that joke.
Just the idea that Hitler's like, all right, I'll do it, but I'm going hard this time.
Not like that last time.
So anyway, that's more or less de Blasio is being that joke right now.
That was us being kind, locking you in your house and robbing from you to give to our crony friends.
That was nice.
That was nice, in essential worker.
Non-essential, I should say.
So anyway, so this is just, this is what they're talking about here.
Well, at this point, de Blasio would give his kids this vaccine for what reason exactly?
I don't know, other than him being a terrible parent.
But he would give his kids.
By the way, de Blasios, as an aside, they've talked about what terrible parents they are and what a horrible job they did with their older daughter.
Anyway, what did they do?
They said, like, the wife wrote a whole piece about it.
It was really creepy stuff.
It was years ago I read it, but I have to look it up.
They just said they just didn't care about her.
And she ended up having all these problems.
And they're really awful.
Like, it was an admission of, hey, we messed up with her older daughter.
Yeah, like we made some real mistakes and then she had some real like troubled years and all this stuff.
Anyway, but he'll stick a vaccine in him, no problem.
So that's, anyway, that's where de Blasio is at.
But yeah, it's no more.
We got to shake him.
You know, it's funny because at the same time, as we were talking about this in the last episode, at the same time as they're mocking people for the vaccine hesitancy.
or these, oh my God, these conspiracy theorists, then they also get out there and like just blatantly threaten people.
You know, like the governor of New York is saying, we're going to throw you in a van and take you down and give you this vaccine.
And he's saying we're going to shake people.
Like this is very threatening behavior, especially from, I mean, okay, he's not the mayor anymore, but from political leaders, not just like regular people saying they think this should happen, but from people who actually exercise government authority.
I make my best decisions after somebody shakes me.
Like, usually I'm not sure about what to do.
And someone gives me, I'm like, all right, all right.
I can see it now.
I should sell my Bitcoin.
In the naked gun, they kept shaking him, and then he has like a different outfit on.
I think, you know.
Anyway, so there's that.
That's a clip.
And then, of course, we could also check in with establishment insider and some people's pick for Supreme Court justice and also a good friend of Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Dershowitz, had this to say on Laura Ingram's show last night.
As far as mandating vaccination, I think the Supreme Court would uphold gradual mandating of vaccination.
That is, first, conditioning going to school.
Okay, if it's legal, why gradual?
I mean, just right off the bat, why would they implement gradual mandates or why would that be what they would authorize if mandates are okay according to the Supreme Court?
And you think we could save lives by getting everyone vaccinated?
I mean, so are they again saving lives in a fast and efficient manner?
Is that what this brilliant lawyer has to say?
He says, firstly, I'm sure he's responsible for some horrible.
How do you have OJ's lawyer still being the guy that we reference on every case?
Like he's a noble.
Forget being OJ's lawyer.
Forget his fucking awful takes on Israel or like any of that shit.
The guy admitted to getting massaged by underage girls at Epstein's house, but his defense was he kept his underwear on the whole time.
This is literally his defense.
Rob's actually really buying it.
No, I'm thinking, I'm like.
That's the underwear defense, dude.
You're fine.
I'm just saying, I would think that alone would just the stench of you.
They'd be like, we can't really have you on these shows anymore.
Now, Laura Ingram does give him some pushback here, but this is interesting.
So let's keep playing.
Mandating of vaccination.
That is first, conditioning going to school on getting vaccinated, conditioning getting on airplanes, conditioning going to crowded buildings.
Ultimately, if it became absolutely necessary, they would quote George Washington in the middle of the Revolutionary War, who mandated vaccination against smallpox for the majority of the people.
Are you saying that COVID-19, Alan, hold on?
Are you saying, see, I disagree with this analysis?
COVID-19 is not smallpox.
I don't think you have to overrule the Jacobson case.
You can distinguish the Jacobson case on the basis of the data, mortality, how infectious this is, how many people it kills.
This is not smallpox.
So it's, and this is not a fully approved, it's not a fully approved vaccine either.
Neither was the smallpox vaccine in 1905.
No, I think COVID is worse than smallpox in many ways.
It may not kill as many people, but we don't know what the long-term impact is.
I have killed 300 million people worldwide.
I mean, 300 million people.
I have a right.
If you're going to say we don't know what the long-term impact is, that sounds like a really good reason for being concerned with the vaccines.
Well, first of all, he says it's worse than smallpox, which killed hundreds of millions of people at a time with a much smaller population.
Okay, like by what standard is it worse?
Why?
Because the government had an insane response to it?
I mean, that's the only thing I could think that would even be an argument to why COVID is worse than smallpox, because, well, I guess the government didn't lock down and do all this crazy shit for smallpox.
But like, that's a wild statement that he can't back up.
And then you're going to back up forced vaccinations because we don't know, because you can't disprove a negative.
You can't prove that something.
I mean, I don't know, just insane.
Just an absolute insane argument for anyone to make.
But he gets a little bit crazier with it.
Or maybe that's the craziest.
But he continues.
Not kill as many people, but we don't know what the long-term impact is.
I have killed 300 million people worldwide.
300 million people.
I have a right.
I know.
I have the right to get on an airplane and know that everybody on that airplane is vaccinated or tested.
You may have the right not to get vaccinated, but you have no right to spread the disease to me, even if you won't kill me.
From Heather, you won't kill me.
This is Harvard Law School, okay?
I didn't go to Harvard Law School, but I did hear, but I did hear the president today talk about how if you're vaccinated, you spread the virus.
You still can spread the virus.
I mean, the data out of Israel, the data out of the UK, they're freaking out about that.
It'll be spread much less seriously.
Vaccines, Testing, and Transmission00:03:17
Look, we don't know what we don't know.
Okay, you can deprive people of their constitutional rights.
Yeah, that's basically it.
If you don't know what we don't know, then how can you prove that the level of spread from vaccinated individuals is different than the level of spread from unvaccinated individuals?
Especially I read today that this was their claim that unvaccinated, I mean, vaccinated individuals are getting sick, just not as sick.
And so that would also sound to me like you probably have a lot of vaccinated individuals who aren't even getting tested.
I bet that they're spreading it way worse because they don't have the knowledge of that they can actually get coronavirus.
And a lot of people are out there vaccinated thinking they have a cold and they're actually spreading it.
I would be willing to bet that if you did a real study here, the level of spread here, I mean, you don't have the data yet.
Like they really just don't have the data on.
Yeah.
Well, it's certainly possible.
But just to stick, we'll get into that a little bit more, but just to stick with Dershowitz here.
I mean, yeah, he really does sound the only other time I've heard an argument that sounded like this was when what's his name, who just died, W's defense secretary, his first one before Gates came on.
Yeah, what's his name?
The guy who fucked up the Iraq war.
But when he went on his thing about the unknown unknowns, what we don't know about what we don't know.
I mean, this is, you know, Alan Rumsfeld.
Yes.
Thank you, Brian.
Donald Rumsfeld said the unknown unknowns.
And that's what we have to worry about.
That's why we got to go to war.
You know, like you're literally like advocating this huge, like massive policy that's going to deprive millions of people of their rights.
And your justification for it is, well, we don't know.
Like openly.
That's explicitly your justification.
Well, we don't know.
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It's just so bizarre to continue to try to maintain all of these different talking points that contradict each other, right?
Mask Mandates and Vaccine Efficacy00:14:17
So their talking point for a long time has been, if you get vaccinated, you're not going to get very sick or die.
Okay, that's been the talking point for a long time.
We can get into the truth of that in just a second because I know there was something you wanted to say about that.
But this is what they're saying, right?
What they're at there, 95% or whatever.
And the vaccinated people aren't getting sick and dying from this.
But then at the same time, Alan Greenspan is going to say, I have the right to get onto a plane and not know that everybody else there has been vaccinated.
Okay, but if you're vaccinated, you're basically saying you're not going to get very sick and die, right?
So what?
You might get, and he says there, even if it, even if I don't get very sick, I have the right to know everyone else is not vaccinated.
So if what we're talking about now is on the level of getting like a cold, do you have the right to know that everybody else on the airplane doesn't have a cold?
Do you have the right to know that like, where are you like getting this right from?
And of course, the only like rights that are coherent or mean anything are property rights.
And so it's kind of like, well, no, actually, whoever owns a plane or a bus or whatever kind of has the right to have to not have a vaccine policy as they never have before.
But why do you get to assert that you have this right to not get a little bit sick when you're in an enclosed area around a lot of other people?
And to not, like, why can't I just as easily say you have the right to not get into an enclosed area around a lot of other people?
I would really.
Seems just as arbitrary.
I would think it's actually an easy offering by, and I'm hoping that they do on vax nights.
I'm really hoping that businesses do it, but it's not that difficult to coordinate.
Hey, we're having the vax flights at 10 and then the unvaxed at 10.30.
It's pretty easy.
I mean, if there's actually market demand that there's so many people like Alan Greenspan that feel that I only want to be on a flight if I know that everyone else is properly vaccinated, then I bet airlines would have an incentive to offer that and coordinate it.
And it's not that difficult.
It's really not that difficult to do.
I mean, you could just basically say, hey, I got a preference for knowing I'm on a flight of all vax people and they can make their coordination and charge you more money.
Or maybe that'll be less money.
Maybe the vax people, we got more risk when they, I mean, unvaxed, have greater risk.
And so we're going to have to pay more for tickets.
I don't really care about any of this.
It's when he says that he's making a fake argument about his personal right as a way to try and enforce his point of view upon all of us, which is that that's the bullshit of it.
Right, right.
So now you have a right to insist that other people get vaccinated for your right to exist in a world of fully vaccinated people, which is, yes, it's exactly like you said, just making up a right and insisting that everybody else has to give up their rights to suit you.
That seems insane to me.
The other thing that really makes this pretty insane, right, is that there was this new study that was just released by the CDC, which kind of seems to at least back up what Fauci was saying the other day.
Now, I know there are people who have argued against this, so I'm not taking this as truth.
I'm just putting this out there that this is now what the CDC is pushing.
They just shared what is being called a pivotal discovery, according to the CDC, about COVID-19 infections and what led to the new mask guidelines.
So let me just read from CNN.com real quick.
This is what their propaganda machine is cranking out.
A new study shows the Delta COVID-19 variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they get infected, illustrating a key motivation behind the federal guidance that now recommends most fully vaccinated Americans wear masks indoors.
So again, a lot of times when you'll see this, and this has been true all throughout COVID, you have like official science, and these are all of the talking points.
Yet one contradicts the other, contradicts the other, contradicts the other.
So if what they're claiming now is that with this new Delta variant, which is the dominant variant, like this is really what COVID in America is.
I think the latest estimates were it's somewhere between 85 and 90% of new COVID cases are the Delta variant.
Go look that up and double check me, but I think it was something in that ballpark.
So this is basically, you know, pretty much all that we're talking about, right?
I mean, if you take the Delta variant out right now, COVID is almost non-existent in the country.
And what the science trademark is telling us is that you're no less likely to transmit the virus if you're vaccinated.
So explain to me how that does not destroy Alan Dershowitz's argument that he has a right for everyone else to get vaccinated.
If this makes you no less likely to transmit it to him, it has absolutely no effect on his right to get onto an airplane knowing that everybody else is vaccinated, right?
Like, how do you maintain those two things together?
I mean, okay, you could make an argument for masks.
We'll get to that one in a second.
But you can make an argument for masks, but that has nothing to do with vaccine.
I mean, that's it.
That's like the deathbl to the whole vaccine cult if they're saying you can transmit it as much.
And when I say that, I mean, okay, maybe they can still hold on to the argument that you are less likely to get sick, be hospitalized, or die.
And perhaps they're right about that.
You know, I don't know exactly how much it reduces your risk, but let's say it does by a really substantial amount, right?
The vaccine makes you less likely to go to the hospital or to die.
Okay, I'm willing to concede that.
But if you're just as likely to transmit it, then that destroys the entire argument for what Jeffrey Epstein's good friend Alan Dershowitz is saying here.
It destroys the entire argument for vaccine passports, for checking vaccine status at any type of event, because the vaccinated can give it to you the same way as the non-vaccinated, according to this CDC study.
Again, I'm willing to be open to the possibility that they're wrong about that because they're wrong about so much.
But if that's the case, then all of this other stuff is destroyed.
It makes no sense.
almost all of this made no sense.
Well, this one might really go either way, but no matter what, CDC and Fauci are a bunch of dumbasses because either they're using wrong data now to try and push a authoritarian mask mandate, which is unforgivable, or the vaccines don't work, in which case, as you just said, this whole narrative of that you and I are responsible because we're unvaccinated and we're putting other people at risk isn't true.
Now, I did see a couple headlines online that they messed up in their evaluation of saying that the Delta variant amongst vaccinated individuals is just as bad because they took that study from India where they were primarily using the AstraZeneca vaccine.
I have not validated that yet.
Just to be clear here, just to be clear, and you might be right about that, but this is a different study.
This is a study that was published on the CDC today.
And it was 469 Massachusetts residents infected in the July outbreak.
So just to be clear, what the CDC released today is a separate study.
Now, that doesn't mean because this is how COVID, you know, the whole last 17 months has been, perhaps in a day or two, there will be people tearing this study down.
I just wanted to be clear that the one you're talking about is a separate study from this one just released.
But that's still worth pointing out.
Also, what you were saying that that 95% figure that we were talking about yesterday, that 95% of hospitalizations and deaths are amongst the non-vaccinated.
So apparently among doing some digging, at least this is what people were sending to me, and it seemed to be accurate, is that the data they were using for making that claim goes all the way back to January.
The problem with that is that in January and February, people were largely unvaxed.
So of course, there was no other category.
If you were trying to give us honest information, you would be telling me like over the last two weeks, most of the people that are dying of this, were they vaxed or not vaxxed?
And then the other crucial piece of this is that people aren't even considered vaxxed after one shot, and then they're not considered vaxed if it's within two weeks of the second shot.
So it's going to be very hard to get good data on whether or not, you know, it's even true that the vaccine's working in any capacity because they're not tracked.
Firstly, they've already said that they've stopped tracking.
They use the word stop tracking.
They were previously tracking for whether or not people at the Delta variant were getting sick.
They've stopped tracking for that.
Someone asked me online, how would they track?
I can just tell you, I'm reading the articles and the word is stopped, meaning that they were at one point and now they are no longer.
And by the way, every time I've gotten a test, I've had to fill out a form indicating whether or not you've been vaxed or not.
I don't know why people would lie on the form for, you know, getting when you're getting the test.
That's like the insurance forms have shared cover it.
So they can track for that.
I'm just saying this data is fucking wacky, dude.
Yeah.
You're making shit up to sell vaccines.
That's all it is.
Well, right.
And here's the thing, right, that I think people should keep in mind because you try to, you know, it's like with all this, like I said, the whole time of COVID, since March of 2020, you know, there's always just one claim after another after another from the establishment, you know, science experts trademark.
And every single one of them just ends up getting batted down and batted down and batted down.
And it's important to kind of focus on that because they'll still rely on previous ones that have really been disproven.
So it's important to kind of zoom out and focus on the bigger picture here.
And there's two kind of areas to focus on.
And that's like, what amongst these policies do we kind of know work or at least have reason have reason to believe don't work or no reason to believe work at all?
And then also like, what is the end goal here?
And what are they actually pushing?
And so on the first one, what's going on right now, aside from this stuff that we told you about with federal employees and the push from some people who, again, are not nobodies.
Bill de Blasio and Alan Derschwitz are not random dudes on the street.
The push for people to talk about mandatory vaccinations, right?
So as we were just saying, well, by their own science, the mandatory vaccinations wouldn't do anything to solve this Delta variant problem.
That's according to their science.
Whether it's right or not, who knows?
So you have that.
But what has actually been implemented and what looks like it's going to be implemented all over, you know, I mean, okay, I think it's, where was, I think Salt Lake City was another one.
I might be wrong about that.
But there was another city that just implemented mask mandates.
LA, Vegas, a few other places have brought back the mask mandates.
My guess is those are coming back in New York and coming back, you know, probably in Jersey and probably some other places like that.
But we've already seen, as of course, the great Tom Woods has demonstrated as much as anyone, that there is no correlation between mask mandates and controlling the virus.
Did you see any of the stuff that Tom Woods has put out this year where he'll put out like all the charts and show you where the mask mandates are?
And it's not like there's not one of these states that you can find where like, oh, mask mandates came in and then that really solved the problem.
And in fact, in many instances, the mask mandates come in and things get much worse.
Now they can play the counterfactual game of being like, well, it would have gotten even worse than that, you know, or like something, you know, but or they can find one area where cases went down with mask mandates.
But then of course you can find other states that didn't have the mask mandates where the cases went in the exact same curve.
So none of this is even clear.
And there's actually several scientific studies that are basically saying that the masks don't do anything.
There was one study that even said that it makes things worse.
I don't know.
I don't know if any of that's true.
Like my guess always was with the masks that like, yeah, if someone is COVID positive and they're close to you, you'd probably rather they have a mask on than not.
Like that just seems likely to me, you know?
But if you're looking for like scientific proof of that, it's pretty hard to come by.
And so they're talking about these policies, none of which have been demonstrated scientifically to do anything to this problem.
And of course, we know this about the lockdowns and why the lockdown areas didn't do any better than the areas that didn't lock down and of course caused tons of other damage.
And that's because so much of this is transmitted inside.
And this is, I mean, it's like, this is why there seem to be the spikes during the cold seasons in like the Northeast and during the hot seasons in the South.
It's like when people are inside.
That's when it's most easy to spread this stuff.
Yet, of course, what was the government response?
It was like to close down the beaches and the parks.
You know, like it's all, so they haven't adjusted at all from these lessons that they should have learned over the last 17 months.
Virus Evolution and Severity00:13:36
And instead, they're just floating.
The idea is just kind of floating out.
Well, maybe we'll bring back mask mandates.
Maybe we'll bring back lockdowns or maybe we'll mandate these vaccines.
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So, the second part of what I was saying there is like this, like, what is their end goal?
And, you know, you could suggest, especially with what Fauci's doing, where it almost looks like he's undermining the vaccine.
And there's something to me that was kind of scary about that because then you're like, what, what is his end goal?
Well, I think they're actually changing the story with the vaccine and how it works.
That now it's not that you can get the vaccine and protect yourself.
It's that all of society needs to get the vax.
And if we all do our part, right, you're going to have less transmissions, less variants, less mutations.
And that's the only way that we can beat the virus.
So then you probably lied the first time when you said you'd be protected if you got it.
Like, this is a changing story.
And then the other thing that's changing is, you know, they're starting to make the recommendations of booster shots.
You just don't have enough vaccine in you.
If you had more vaccine in you, it would be working.
Which, at what point, do we start looking at studies to see if maybe the vaccine's weakening people's immunity?
And so that maybe there's going to be some sort of a reliance on the vaccine as a lifetime now thing that you will always need booster shots in order to even have any sense of immunity.
Well, that's right.
And so this also, in some way, it's kind of comforting in a way because you go like, oh, oh, okay.
So it's not, because I really do, you know, I don't know.
And I'm sure that Fauci is somewhat incentivized by his own relevance and grip on power and all of that.
And if the pandemic is just over and we go back to normal life, well, then he goes back to being someone no one really cares about.
And also then you just sit back and start picking apart his record rather than constantly dealing with the latest thing that he said.
But I still do think he's very motivated by pushing these vaccines.
As we've been saying for a while, he is very much in bed with the pharmaceutical industry and they are raking in enormous sums of money, taxpayer money, off of these vaccines.
And then you realize that, like, yeah, that is kind of where we're going with this, right?
Boosters.
And then boosters are, by the way, in Israel, they are, I believe, already recommending over 60, they're vaccinated boosters.
That's right.
For yes, that's over 60.
They're recommending booster vaccines already.
So you know that's coming.
That's the next step.
Why would it not help?
I don't even get it.
Like if you've already, if you had the two, or maybe that it's already after the six months and they're saying that they're weakening, but if not, so why isn't the recommendation now just to start having three shots?
And then by the way, don't tell me that this thing is safe and effective if you don't understand how long it works for.
So then you don't know.
So then me saying, hey, there might be long-term health effects, if you don't even know how long the thing works for, then you clearly don't know if there might be consequences down the road.
You couldn't know it by your own admission.
You don't know how this thing works after six months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's exactly right.
But on the masks, if this was really the worst pandemic ever and we had to put all of our resources behind solving it, if you're the CDC, you got 40,000 people working there.
Why can't you do mass studies?
I don't understand.
I mean, if this thing is a pandemic and people can volunteer themselves, I guess, to be exposed for a certain amount of money, and we all know what the death rates would be, and we could come up with a financial figure.
And those would be people we could worship them like astronauts, the risk that they're willing to put on their plate in order to help out all of society and they'll be compensated for it.
You get rooms like this.
I mean, how many rooms like this can you fit into a building?
You put the masked guy over there who I know has Corona.
You put some guy in the other corner.
You see what masks work.
You see the rates.
Within two weeks, we could have every single figure we ever needed on what materials work within six feet.
If the UV lighting would make a change.
I mean, the amount of experiments you can make with the amount of money that the government has available to it, how can the organization be telling you, hey, we're here for the science while not running any experiments or coming to you with actual information?
Right.
Yeah.
It's a big crock of shit.
That's it.
That's right.
That's right.
And of course, it seems to me like no one is actually zooming out and focusing on like the kind of the real story of what's going on here.
And I mean that with the virus, aside from the real story of the government and destroying all these lives and the pharmaceutical companies and all the policies.
Just I'm saying the real story of the virus here.
And it seems to me, right?
Like, remember when we were saying a few weeks back when Fauci first claimed that the Delta variant was more contagious and more deadly.
And we were right away saying, like, that seems not right.
Because, I mean, like, look, again, we're not virologists here, but usually viruses become one or the other, right?
They're either more contagious or more deadly.
That's typically how viruses evolve.
So, oh, so Pfizer is suggesting that the booster will help with the Delta variant.
Buy more of our product.
And what about the next variant and the next variant, right?
But what seems to me to be going on here is that as we said back then, and this is just amateur, you know, our predictions, but people who have like read anything should be able to do this.
Like, well, no, the odds are that a variant of this virus is going to be either more deadly or more contagious.
That's those are the odds.
And it seems pretty clear with the Delta variant that it was, it's more contagious.
It's easier to transmit, but it's not as deadly.
And if you look at this, look, look at the numbers and look at how many people are actually dying.
And it seems like no one wants to talk about this.
Or if they do, the credit just has to go to the vaccines.
That's why less people are dying.
It's like, oh, okay.
I mean, maybe, like, I don't know for sure, but regardless, the vaccines have been completely voluntary or largely voluntary with some soft coercion so far, right?
So, okay.
So, you're telling me we got a variant, we got a new form of COVID that's spreading around like wildfire, but people aren't dying at the same rate.
Now, could it be that that's- The hospital shouldn't be getting overwhelmed, and so we should have a perfectly working system here.
The only people who want to take on their own risk of getting sick are choosing to do so, and those are the only people getting seriously ill.
And since we've gotten so much of the population vaccinated, our hospitals aren't being overrun.
Sounds like we got our solution.
Here's what I think about this.
And I was talking to one of my friends, one of our very smart friends on the phone the other day.
I won't name him in case he doesn't want this on the record, but it's also just because this is just, again, take this with a grain of salt.
This is just kind of how I see this going.
And I don't know.
I'm not an expert in this field.
I'm not a scientist.
But it seems to me that this is my guess about actually like just the virus.
Forget the government responds to it, which in many ways is the most important part.
But in terms of how this virus is going to go, I think COVID is permanent.
I don't think it's going anywhere.
I think it's here with us.
And I think there's going to be new variants and new variants and new variants.
I just think that, and I think that everyone's going to get it eventually.
Like, that's, I just think that's the reality of it.
And you know, there were a lot of epidemiologists and virologists who predicted this right away at the beginning.
They're like, look, it's a matter of time.
Everyone's going to get this.
There's no escaping it.
However, the bright side of this is that I think it's going to get less and less and less deadly.
And I think that with every variant, it's going to be more contagious and less deadly because that is where the evolutionary pressure on a virus is to get more and more contagious and less deadly.
Because like, look, from the kind of like Darwinian perspective of a virus, the ultimate virus is the common cold.
And that's why it's been with us for thousands of years.
Because what does the common cold do?
Well, it basically gets you just sick enough that you can get out of your house, go around and cough and sneeze on everybody.
So you can go fucking transmit it to a bunch of people, but it's not going to be like, you know, the flu or something like a more serious virus that puts you on your ass.
It's so obvious that you're sick that people keep their distance from you and you don't go out and mingle.
Like what a virus wants to do, which I know is personification or whatever, but if you understand what I'm saying, like from an evolutionary point of view, what a virus is going to do is to reproduce and spread.
And the best way to do that is to just make your host mildly sick, just sick enough to still be able to go out and cough and sneeze all over the place.
And so my guess, again, just very amateurish guess, is that that's the direction.
And I think that this delta variant might be kind of like the first step in that direction.
And if I'm right, which is a big if, don't take this to the bank or anything like that.
I'm just kind of speaking here.
But if that's correct, then this kind of falls in line with it, that like the new variants would be more contagious, less deadly.
And that that's kind of the direction we're going to go in.
And if that's the case, then, you know, if I'm right about that, then you can see where as they keep pushing, now back to the government policies, right?
If they keep pushing these vaccines and then the boosters and all this shit, as it becomes less and less deadly, they get to take credit for it every step of the way.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, that's where every booster is vaccinated because otherwise you got the data that it's just that the virus is less deadly.
Exactly.
Oh, well, look, the vaccine worked.
Oh, and look, the booster really worked.
And look, the booster, booster, booster really worked.
And the fact that we got people taking vaccines every single year, that's really what worked.
Or even, you know, God forbid, the mandated vaccines, that's what really worked.
When in fact, what's going on here is just a virus evolving.
Right.
They don't want a control group.
Right.
That's exactly right.
So, so, and that, and that might answer some of your questions about why, like, why aren't these studies being done that would really shed some light on exactly what's going on here?
Why aren't we really doing an apples to apples controlled experiment of vaccinated versus non-vaccinated people and how they, you know, reacted to all this stuff?
Just a thought, but I, you know, I just have a feeling that that's where this is all going.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
Any other thoughts?
Any of the other data that you've been looking at that jumps out at you?
No, I think that's at least what I've seen today.
I mean, it's crazy.
Every day, you got it, some figure comes out, and then you got to go do all your research about why it's bullshit.
And then you pull your hair out that there isn't good information, that it takes so much work to figure out how they're lying to you and who's lying to you.
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It's annoying.
Yeah.
No, that is absolutely true.
And it's really something to keep up with, like the fact that they just, I mean, they just keep going with it and keep going.
And they seem very unaffected by the fact that.
And then you got a lot of comedians, family members, and other people who just assume you're an idiot.
And then, you know, it really only takes a couple questions to see what they've read or how they can validate any of their perspectives, which they never can, but they're always convinced that you're an idiot.
Yeah.
No, that's right.
No.
Okay, let's see.
Okay, what was the other thing?
Oh, I didn't see that.
Oh, is MyPillow pulling their ads from Fox News?
Yeah, it spends $50 million a year.
And he was trying to run it.
I don't know what he, I think he was trying to run ads for one of his events and they wouldn't let him.
They're like, you can sell pillows on our network and that's it.
And then fuck you guys.
So he must have he must have realized that he's got a lot of pull around there.
He's like, look, I'm your entire network at this point.
What do you mean you won't run my event?
Well, that's going to be interesting to see where they go or if some other advertiser comes in and fills that spot because I know he's basically the advertiser for Tucker Carlson.
It's like the guy.
I'll take my pillows and leave.
Yeah, right.
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So, one more thing that did catch my eye, and I know Brian had sent this to me, and I saw it on Twitter, that the post office union has actually put out a statement on mandatory vaccinations for federal employees.
And it is not what I would have assumed it would be.
Here, let me read from the website.
Various media outlets have reported that the White House is considering a mandatory COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of employment for federal employees.
Maintaining the health and safety of our members is of paramount importance.
While the APWU leadership continues to encourage postal workers to voluntarily get vaccinated, it is not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent.
Issues related to vaccinations and testing for COVID-19 in the workplace must be negotiated with the APWU.
At this time, the APWU opposes the mandating of COVID-19 vaccinations in relation to U.S. postal workers.
So, that is where we are, Rob.
They've got me rooting for the post office.
And they show up to every one of our doors.
So, if anyone should be forced to get vaccinated, it's them.
Who would be spreading more virus than those people?
Well, but it is interesting.
Everyone's male.
But you kind of see, because whenever it comes to these government agencies or public sector unions or any of these things, they're competing power centers, you know, competing.
They're all kind of looking for their own power.
But it is interesting and I think sometimes very beneficial when their power interests conflict.
And you could see here where the union is kind of like, well, wait a minute.
You don't get to just come in here and boss our people around.
Like, that's our job.
We're the ones who extract the dues from them and represent the higher ups and screw over the smaller guys.
So, you know, look, it's just interesting to see anything like that, like a public sector union kind of standing up against this stuff.
But man, I would, I hope to see, hope to see more of that.
And of course, they are absolutely right that it's not the role of the federal government to force anybody to get a vaccination that they may not want to get.
And of course, at this point, you know, people who don't want to get vaccinated very clearly don't want to get vaccinated.
There's been a pretty large pressure campaign on them to get them vaccinated.
They don't want to do it.
Of course, on the other side of it, the teachers union president suggested that schools may not reopen after the new CDC guidelines.
The teachers just really don't want to work.
And they're doing a great job of leveraging their union to make sure that they don't, I mean, they weren't doing such a good job on education anyways.
Maybe they figure that the less work they have to do over these two years, the worse the test scores get, the more they're just off the hook because they weren't doing their jobs and you can't blame them from COVID.
And it's public school.
You know, they need some time to figure out critical race theory and the next generation of propaganda.
They're behind the times.
So that might be it.
They really have to go home and study racism more.
But, well, look, I mean, you don't have to come up with some devious conspiracy to figure out why people who get paid the same to stay home would prefer to stay home than to go to work.
But as I've pointed out throughout this pandemic, it's unbelievable to watch.
And you just see, right?
You see right in front of you.
No matter what arguments me or you or any other libertarian could make, nothing is more powerful than what people just see right in front of them with their own eyes, where you see these small businesses begging the government to reopen, and then you see these government employees begging the government to stay closed.
But get paid still.
They still want to get it.
And that's obviously why, because their paychecks are not at risk.
They're like, yeah, whatever.
But the thing that I think is even more eye-opening, that's really a lot more sinister, is that we have at this point, you know, just overwhelming data on how bad the virtual learning has been for kids across the country.
These kids are more retarded than ever.
Yeah, that's right.
They're retarded schools.
They're awful.
It's really not just the education.
It's the isolation.
I mean, there's all these other factors.
But the fact that the teachers union is that removed from the interests of the children, I think that's a real eye-opener for people.
It's something that I've been saying for over a decade.
But it is really like, it's unbelievable.
I mean, yeah, these people would rather close school again, let these kids fall behind, let them fall into isolation and depression and all of these other social problems.
Yeah, but they get to stay home and get their money.
So there you go.
They could care less.
They could care less about the well-being of children.
But hey, as I've said all along, that might be one of the silver linings of this whole goddamn thing.
Let people see what's really up with public schools.
There is, in a weird way, it almost is like the collapsitarian argument, which I do not agree with.
But there's kind of like a school of libertarians who believe that the quicker the collapse comes, the better, because then we can basically start over.
It's a dangerous game.
You know what I mean?
Like my thing is much more like we should be buying as much time as we can to get more, make more libertarians so that hopefully when the collapse comes, we got at least like 20, 30 million hardcore libertarians in this country.
Then maybe we got a better shot at something.
But with stuff, it almost makes me go in this one area, I'm almost a little bit of a collapsitarian.
Like in this one area, I go, maybe they should, maybe I'm not rooting for them to take critical race theory out of the curriculum.
Maybe I'm rooting for them to ramp it up.
Like just ramp it up to the level where it's just so obvious to all of these parents that these are just awful, abusive propaganda camps that you're sending your kids to.
Like, how bad does that need to get before some parents are really like, okay, we're finding something else for our kids.
We're pulling our, we're making whatever life changes we have to to, you know, pull.
Like, didn't you, I don't know, it's a weird thing, but you know, when we were showing like all those videos of the parents, you know, flipping out about critical race theory, and I'm sure you've seen a bunch more that we haven't shown on here because they're all going viral all around the place.
Don't you kind of, and I don't want to be unsympathetic to people.
I understand that I am, I'm very lucky in a lot of ways that I have a very flexible career that I've been able to build for myself, strictly on the fact that I have whatever talent I have to do this and stand up comedy and stuff like that.
And so that I make really good money and I'm very present in my daughter's life and my wife doesn't have to work.
I understand that's not everybody's situation.
Like I really do get that.
And it's not simply like, oh, the fault of their own.
Like I think, you know, the Federal Reserve destroying the dollar has created with other government policies created a society where a lot of families do need two incomes coming in and all this other stuff.
I understand it's really hard for some people.
But you see these parents yelling at the school board that you are propagandizing my child to hate themselves and to hate their family and hate their country.
And then you see like black parents screaming at them that you're propagandizing my children to think that they're victims and that this great country they live in is a racist white supremacist society and all this stuff.
And as they're saying that, I'm almost thinking to myself, so at what point do you not send your kid there?
You know, like I understand it might be really, really difficult, but at what point, if you believe that, if you believe what you're yelling at this school board, do you just go, I'll do anything.
I'll do whatever I have to do.
I mean, like, I'll sell my house and live in a trailer before I allow this to happen to my children.
So again, I'm not trying to judge them, but it does just make me wonder that.
And maybe the more things like this that happen, the more people will wake up about the nature of government schools.
And so that's, because that is so much of the game right there.
Like so much of the game is that, you know, it's like a lot of other people, libertarians, will be like, you know, most people don't want to be libertarians and most people will reject this, this message if they hear it.
And they might, you know, they might be right about it.
But it is hard if we're going down that avenue to remove the fact that the government has the kids from like age five to 18.
And they're just a lot of people.
I mean, I didn't go to public school, but.
But it's like in Tom Woods' great Walmart analogy, which I love.
And I'm sure I've told you before and I've said on the show a bunch of times, but like the idea was like if Walmart ran the schools and we all had to send our kids at five years old to go to Walmart schools and every morning they pledged allegiance to Walmart, you know, and they, you know, they vowed to always, you know, love Walmart.
And they looked up at the wall and there were the pictures of all the CEOs of Walmart.
I pledge allegiance to cheap shit being imported from China.
Well, that's right.
And so if they were raised this way, not unionized.
How would we feel about that?
If we looked at that and saw that, we'd be like, well, this is sick.
This is really sick, like blatant, obvious brainwashing of children.
Yet when the government does it, we just kind of take that as, you know, that's, well, that's what they do.
And so if in this, you know, Walmart school system, we had a population that had a real bias toward loving Walmart, it stands to reason that you might think, you know, that part might have something to do with it.
That might really be now, I don't know.
Maybe there is something about like the H.L. Mencken, most men desire, you know, security more than liberty type thing.
Maybe that's it.
But I think the government propaganda is a big part of it.
And so if people are waking up to that and maybe backing away from that, that is, that's a real win for freedom and truth and goodness.
Okay, that's our show for today.
Don't forget, DC, Rochester, Rob, you got some stuff coming up.