Dave Smith frames the Pentagon's attack on Tucker Carlson as a corporate plot where wokeism, historically hijacked by banks like JP Morgan, now silences critics of Middle Eastern wars. He details how Marine officials dismissed Carlson's views on maternity uniforms using authoritarian logic, ignoring active-duty opinions and the military's own history of sexual assault. Smith argues this selective outrage, weaponized against Carlson while ignoring troop suffering in Yemen or Iraq, reveals a coordinated effort to remove a popular host who challenges domestic political overreach and foreign interventionism. [Automatically generated summary]
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Roll Back The State00:02:18
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Hey, what's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
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Happy Monday.
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Who knows?
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We'll see what happens.
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That's the story of the whole country.
Childerberg in Texas, and you're giving that speech in Jersey.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I will be giving a speech at the New Jersey Libertarian Party State Convention in just a few days.
To clarify, only me at Childerberg.
I don't want people showing up like all mad at me.
Like, where's Dave?
Coordinated Corporate Effort00:15:48
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
It's not a bad way to sell tickets.
I have a feeling it's a tough time to get a refund at Childeberg.
That's my guess.
They'll be like, who do we speak to about that?
I'd be like, dude, I have no idea who you speak to.
Anyway, but go check that out.
I've heard that's a lot of fun as well.
I'll make it out there one of these years, one of these years, in the next decade.
I'll make it out there at some point.
But yeah, and I don't know if there are still seats available for the New Jersey thing.
Check it out.
There might be a couple left.
There's limited seats due to the COVID bullshit.
But I think it's going to stream online.
So you'll be able to watch that one way or the other.
I'll try to tweet out the information for that at some point today.
Anyway, what I wanted to talk about today was a story that really caught my eye that I thought was fascinating and kind of terrifying.
And this was the Pentagon versus Tucker Carlson and the back and forths that they've had over the last few days.
And I wanted to kind of tie it in to the idea of like wokeism in general and a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about for the last few months, and I guess for the last few years.
But something I've really been focusing a lot on lately is wokeism as a corporate plot.
And I've kind of, I think I've gone over this a lot, but just so people are clear on where I'm coming from with all of this.
And I really think that once you open your mind to this possibility, the evidence becomes overwhelming.
And so basically where I came up with all of this stuff was just using my Rothbardian analysis and applying it to modern days.
So if people haven't read Murray Rothbard's work on the progressive era, it was all put together into one book called The Progressive Era by Murray Rothbard.
But it was like a series of essays.
He wrote a whole lot about the progressive era.
And the book is really excellent.
I highly recommend people read it.
Essentially, what Murray Rothbard's argument was about the progressive era was that it was like a corporate hijacking of a left-wing cause, right?
So you had a bunch of progressives.
There was socialist ideology all over the place.
And a lot of people in America on the left really wanted a managed economy, you know, to for whatever, you know, noble reasons that they believed in.
So that the robber barons wouldn't have so much while the average person had so little, so little to, you know, kind of tax the rich and, you know, kind of not too dissimilar from progressive arguments that you hear today that, you know, the poor should be helped out a little bit at the expense of the rich, yada, yada, yada, you know, the kind of Bernie Sanders of their time or whatever.
And that basically corporate power hijacked this movement and was like, okay, yeah, you're absolutely right.
We need a managed economy for all the reasons you just stated.
And oh, by the way, we think we should manage the economy.
And that's what happened.
That's who took over.
In the name of progressivism, these big corporate interests took over the banking sector and the regulatory state and all of this other stuff, right?
So this is exactly what happened.
And I think more or less that something very similar has gone on with the woke movement.
And so go ahead.
And to build off of that, it's kind of a through Ryan through line in Rothbard's work pointing out how a lot of time academia is like high academia is actually being sponsored by corporate entities.
And that's why certain people that you hear the most about are actually being cherished or promoted because there's a lot of money behind it.
And one of like the very clear examples he has is in the creation of the Federal Reserve and basically having one national bank was just how much money was like basically sponsored by JP Morgan of putting out these reports of bank elasticity or other things being crucial for the American economy.
And those economists, they either they didn't know better or the JP Morgan specifically picked the people who felt that way.
And then all of a sudden, because there's a lot of money behind it, it seems like that's kind of, it's like the scholars working along with companies and government.
And to your point, because I'm glad you put it that way, when you say they either didn't know better or they were picked for those reasons or they were nefarious and doing it specifically to help their friends, the correct answer to that is it's probably a mix of all.
There were probably some who really believed it.
There were some who were part of a real deal conspiracy.
And in the first group, a lot of them might have been picked Just because they believed that, or were at least willing to parrot those talking points.
So they sponsor your research.
That's basically the idea.
You find the guy who's got a or working theory that's similar to what you'd like to put out there.
So you give him a lot of money and now all of a sudden there's the resources for him to explore that idea and get it out there.
Yeah.
And keep in mind one of the things that I said a few weeks ago, where, because a lot of times my take on this will get mischaracterized or even, I think, straw manned a little bit.
But I am not suggesting that every inch of wokeism is some conspiracy and that there aren't examples of people who just go with the flow of the culture or just see it as like the incentives line up and they're like, okay, I think we're better off going woke and avoiding, you know, being protested or boycotted or something like that.
Like I'm not suggesting that when Gillette makes some dumb woke commercial, that's because they're like on the take for working with the CIA or something like that.
I'm not like, that's not my claim.
As I said a few weeks ago, I think that people who see everything as a conspiracy and people who dismiss every conspiracy are neither of them are ever going to have a completely accurate understanding of what's happening.
There are conspiracies, but they don't account for everything.
But my point is this, right?
When you see the rise of the woke shit, and we all know what I'm talking about here, right?
Like everybody knows what woke culture is and how it's developed.
When you see the rise of it, it did come right on the heels of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
And not just on the heels of the Occupy Wall Street movement, also on the heels of the Tea Party movement, where there was basically the left and the right had these real populist movements that were really getting close to something.
And one of the things that's really interesting about the Tea Party and Occupy is that they weren't really at odds with each other.
It was almost like each of them had half of the pendant necklace that they should have put together.
You know what I mean?
Like the Tea Party was over here being like government spending and taxes and debt is out of control.
And the Occupy movement was over here being like, oh, these banks got bailed out and the corporate control over our economy is out of control.
And all it really would have taken would be for like one of the smart people from each movement to sit down and realize it's like, hey, you know, we really hate big government and you really hate the big corporations.
And they're kind of in bed with each other.
Like it was the government that we hate who bailed out the banks that you hate.
And maybe, you know what I mean?
Like you could really see this coming together if just left on its own.
I mean, who knows if for sure that would have happened, but you certainly could see that as like a possibility that they may have realized at one point, oh, hey, right and left, we're not really each other's enemies.
Our enemies are the banks and the politicians who steal our money to bail them out.
And that, you know, like, so now, again, I'm not just to be clear, I'm not saying that like it was some CIA operation to create like critical race theory in the universities or something like that.
I mean, I don't know, but that's not my claim.
I think that a lot of these ideas were floating around and had been for a long time.
But there is no question that the overwhelming amount of resources and attention and energy that was poured into this shit came right on the heels of Occupy Wall Street.
And I do not believe for a second that this was a just an honest response to market indicators or something like that.
You know, when you look at those charts where the number of times that big publications like the Washington Post and the New York Times mention racism and social justice and white, you know, privilege and like all these other like kind of like woke, you know, terms, it goes like from 2010, it just skyrockets right after.
All of a sudden, it's all we want to talk about.
And it's not as if this correlated to some drastic increase in racism.
from the year 2010 to the year 2014.
Like it's that's not what happened.
It correlated to people waking up about the corruption of the system.
And, you know, this stuff is like all around.
I mean, I saw, I was tweeting the other day where the ATF was posting some fucking woke shit, you know, like from their official ATF account.
I can't even remember what it was exactly, but it's some just like crazy woke shit.
And then there was this one that I retweeted also where it's Raytheon, our friendly bomb makers.
They were posting a thing about how they have a more inclusive work environment for trans people who work at Raytheon.
And it's like, come on, man.
I mean, look, this shit is right in front of you.
And people can say that, you know, well, this is just, you know, people responding to the market and stuff like that.
And in some cases, that is true.
It's not necessarily that it's not true.
Like they are, but they're responding to incentives.
And in the same way that, you know, I think you can understand where like if the if the Federal Reserve artificially brings people, brings interest rates down to, you know, 0% and you can get a mortgage, you know, financed.
I don't even know at this point.
I think it's like crazy low, the interest rates that you can you can get on a mortgage.
Well, you understand that more people are now going to buy houses than otherwise would because it makes more financial sense.
They're incentivized to, you know, you're incentivized to take out a mortgage at 3% far more than you are at 9%.
And for many people, if you just run the equation, it wouldn't make sense at 9%, but it does make sense at 3%.
So you can say that's just the market working, but obviously there's this interference in the market, which is drastically changing all of the calculations, all of the incentives.
And that is kind of what's going on on one level with the woke shit.
I believe it's genuinely a plot on one level.
But, you know, like when you see like all of the highest levels of the corporate press, the highest levels of the big banks, the highest levels of the government, the military, all these people pushing this shit, don't rule out the possibility that this is a coordinated effort.
It really seems like one.
But there's also just the incentives of it.
If you are Raytheon, yeah, you would much rather the left be talking about this shit than talking about, you know, like, I don't know, what's problematic about Raytheon?
It's not whether or not they have an inclusive work environment for trans people.
The problem is that they build weapons of war and then lobby the government to use them against poor people in third world countries.
Like that's what's problematic about them.
So anyway, just kind of keeping this in the background, because this is the lens through which I'm viewing a lot of what's going on here.
And I think it's worth noting that the military, the Pentagon is going after Tucker Carlson.
And what are they going after him for?
Well, it's on grounds of the woke shit.
Of course, right?
Like that's what they're using to attack him.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Tucker Carlson is the loudest, most outspoken critic of all of these wars on his huge cable news show, which dominates in the ratings.
But see, they're not going after him for that.
They're going after him for violating, you know, woke rules.
Oh, Tucker Carlson said he thought Joe Biden giving a press conference about, you know, how we have these new uniforms for pregnant women was stupid and that the military's role is to fight and win wars and not to cater to all this woke nonsense.
That's what they're going after him for.
It just happens to be that they're going after the guy who was good on Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, you know, every last one of the wars.
Seems a little coincidental to me that that's who they chose, you know, to attack publicly, but that's what it is.
And those are the grounds on which they're going after him.
Okay, so anyway, for people, if you don't know the story, that's basically what happened.
So Joe Biden, who is no question at this point, I think the wokest president ever.
I mean, don't, you know, forget the fact that he's the architect of every awful thing that the government does and that he, you know, worked with segregationists and all this shit and had no problem race baiting on the other side when that was convenient.
But he has, you know, every inch of his presidency and his appointments and all of this has all been put forward from his vice presidential pick to every cabinet position.
It's all been put forward as like, well, this is the first person of color and this is the first trans woman and this is the first black woman and this is everything about it has been done on identitarian on an identitarian basis.
And so he was holding some press conference where he was bragging about promoting two female military members to higher positions.
And he started bragging about how his military is going to be creating these new uniforms for pregnant women to serve.
And Tucker Carlson was just blasting this and saying, this is so ridiculous that this is what the military is focusing on.
So this set off a firestorm and the responses came down all the way from the top of the Pentagon, a whole bunch of military people criticizing Tucker Carlson.
Now, I'll say this.
However you may feel about Tucker's position on uniforms for pregnant women, whether you think it's the greatest thing that's ever happened and you think it's really important for the military's effectiveness or even inclusiveness or whatever.
Can't we all agree that there's something pretty creepy about the Pentagon inserting itself in a political conversation amongst the domestic population?
Like, shouldn't they not be coming down on somebody saying the wrong thing?
Isn't that just like, let's say, inappropriate at best?
Blue Light Eye Strain00:02:38
And the type of shit a terrifying dystopian authoritarian regime does at worst?
That seems to be the case to me.
So kind of the opposite of what we saw a couple of years ago when they were trying to change the don't ask, don't tell laws.
And then also women in the military, like that all kind of came from outside the military and the military was saying, hey, please don't tell us how to operate the military.
And now they're shouting that line back to people over now having more of the woke stuff.
Yeah, it's been interesting to watch the transformation.
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Harry's Razor Deal00:15:19
I think the other thing I think that's important to note with the Tucker Carlson comment is you might be able to say that what that initial line, even though I don't feel this way, was douchey with the wearing the uniforms for pregnant ladies.
But then after that, he's just basically posing the question, doesn't sound, it doesn't sound to me, I don't know anything about flying a plane.
It doesn't sound to me like pregnant ladies, like how pregnant are flying these planes.
It just doesn't sound like a winning strategy.
And so he just puts forward, hey, that sounds a little bit odd.
Have you guys done the research on this?
It seems to me like you'd be pretty number based.
And that's a very fair question to ask.
And then nobody ever addresses that question of him being like, well, are we looking at the numbers here?
Or is the military just trying to preach a philosophy?
And instead, they shout back, how dare you question this important?
No, that's the entire thing is you're saying that this philosophy is so important that it might be more important than our safety.
Not that I'm a fan of the military.
I'm just saying theoretically, that's the question here.
And as opposed to having a conversation around the numbers, he just gets attacked for how dare you cut this thing.
Well, you're the ones who are putting it forward as being really important and that we have to discuss it.
So I'm asking you a question on that.
And then they, you know what I mean?
There's something really, it's like a bitch move.
I can't quite get my fingers on it, but there's something very like silly about putting it forward as, hey, this is the most important thing.
And then you just ask and they go, well, you're not allowed to ask about it.
Well, you're the one who said it's super important.
Yes, that's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
Now, they've since deleted, I believe, and apologize for these tweets, but there was an official military Twitter account.
It's the official U.S. Marine Corps Twitter for the number two MEF information.
So like selfie shots of bombing Syria.
Oh, no.
No, but see, that's the thing.
Well, we don't even want to talk about bombing Syria.
It's funny.
They don't want to take Tucker Carlson on on any of those critiques.
You know, they don't want to take Tucker Carlson on for criticizing Donald Trump when he bombs Syria or criticizing Biden when he bombs Syria.
No, no, no.
It's just the comments about pregnant women serving in the military.
That's the only thing we're really going to have a fierce debate about.
Of course, we're not going to have a fierce debate about like troops in Afghanistan or something like that, because they know they can't win that debate.
If you're a dude pilot who gets really fat, will they let you wear one of the female uniforms?
I'm not sure, but that would be inclusive, if you ask me, right?
If we really want to be inclusive about this thing, let's let chubby guys in too.
No, no tests for the military.
But they actually tweeted somebody was criticizing them.
And I mean, I was actually blown away by this.
Now, again, to be fair, they did delete this tweet and apologize.
But this is an official U.S. military blue check Twitter account where somebody, just some random person, I think it was another blue check.
I can't see now because they deleted the tweet, but I screen grabbed it.
But they tweeted to somebody who was criticizing this policy.
They said, come back when you've served and been pregnant.
Basically saying, shut up, citizen.
We don't want to hear your criticism until you've served while pregnant.
Only the pregnant people who serve can criticize the policy of pregnant people serving.
That's pretty creepy and authoritarian for our federal killing force to start telling the domestic population when they should come back and when their opinion is valid.
I mean, like, first off, just on the face of it, it's such a ridiculous argument.
The idea that you can't criticize anything unless you've been a part of the, I mean, I guess only cops can criticize cops.
And, you know, you can't really criticize politicians unless you've been elected to office.
I suppose you can't criticize a doctor.
You know, like if a doctor were to just like perform the wrong surgery on the wrong patient and you were like, hey, you, you, you know, my brother came in for a kidney transplant and you cut off his arm.
They go, well, until you've been a doctor, don't criticize the job I'm doing, right?
It's the dumbest argument ever, but it's really pretty weird to see coming from the military.
Has anyone asked pregnant pilots?
Because I would think one of the work perks of being a lady and getting pregnant is not really having to work.
Like that's pretty nice.
I can't imagine a bunch of them are sitting around like, oh man, I just want to get up in the air with this morning sickness.
That's what, you know, that's what, that's what helps me get rid of this morning sickness feeling is being able to go bomb some shit.
Yeah.
So they've, they've really been backing off of this.
I should give that just for full, you know, disclosure to tell the whole story that they really have been backing off of this thing and they've been apologizing because they've been getting a lot of shit from people.
Because, you know, the thing is that I think even they realize they fucked up where it's like, look, if you want to do, and I don't mean fucked up on like they were wrong about the argument or something.
I think they realized strategically they fucked up.
Like this is not a smart move if you are the Marines, right?
Like Tucker Carlson is the most popular pregnant.
Right.
Yeah.
But look, Tucker Carlson is the most popular right winger perhaps in the country.
He might be the biggest one.
I mean, I guess Trump, but after Trump, there's a strong argument.
Tucker's next, you know, like he's the biggest thing in cable news.
He represents a lot of these people.
And for the Marines to come out like, we're attacking right wingers for having this right wing.
You're like, that's a lot of your base.
Just so you know, like those are the, so a lot of these right wingers who are very pro-military people by nature are furious at them because they look at it more as like, oh, this is not the role of the military to come out and weigh into some political conversation.
Like Tucker Carlson has a right to say whatever he wants to.
And so they're apologizing and backing off and being like, we should do better.
And we strayed from our mission and this and that.
But before they did that, they did tweet out this video that I want to show you, Brian.
It's not the CNN one, the other video.
We'll get to that one in a second.
But this video from a very serious military man responding to Tucker Carlson.
So let's play some of that.
Drama TV.
Ladies and gentlemen, that's what I call it.
I'll apologize up front and tell you that I don't have cable news at home.
I don't have it here in the office and I don't watch a lot of drama TV.
I understand some comments were made yesterday and I watched the clip that Mr. Carlson produced as he referred to pregnant women in the military.
I'll remind everyone that his opinion, which he has a right to, is based off of actually zero days of service in the armed forces.
Let me offer you my opinion.
My opinion is based off of 28 years of actual service in the military, 28 years in the Marine Corps, in combat operations out at sea and in garrison.
All right.
So let's pause it already right there.
Like, what a fucking like disgusting attitude for a fucking colonel to be coming on and lecturing.
First off, if you want to be like drama TV, drama TV, it's like, okay, well, you lose that higher ground when you are commenting on the drama TV.
Okay.
So you're now, even if it is drama TV, you're now involved in the drama.
Okay.
Now, he for the other thing that's just like, like to me, so obvious about this, again, right, is that it's like, who, who are they going after here?
Don't tell me this is a complete coincidence, that he is the most outspoken anti-war cable news host with the biggest audience.
All right.
So was it drama TV when he had when he had Aaron Matei on the other day to in detail break down how the OPCW was whistleblowers exposed that the chemical attack that the military was trying to use to launch a war in Syria was complete bullshit?
Was that drama TV?
Was it drama TV when he opposed Trump bombing Syria and Trump taking out Soleimani in Iran?
Was it drama TV when he opposed Biden bombing Syria?
Was it drama TV when he reported on the crisis in Yemen when he's pushed for pulling our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq?
So, okay, maybe you didn't like his comments about pregnant women in the military, but it's something to just be so dismissive of what Tucker Carlson does and then come on here like, oh yeah, this is so beneath me.
Now let me get into a back and forth.
And I guess he does give the caveat of saying, hey, Tucker has the right to do this.
Well, thank you, Mr. Military Man, for allowing Tucker the right to state his opinion, which I think we all knew already.
But then he goes, oh, Tucker, Tucker has a right to his opinion, but he's got zero days of service and I have 28 years of service.
So right away, my opinion is more important than his.
Here's the thing about the military, right?
You guys are our hired killers.
When it comes to killing people, that's your lane.
That's what you guys do.
Okay.
But when it comes to having an opinion about this, whatever happened to this whole government of the people thing, you know?
Oh, all of a sudden, people, your opinion doesn't really matter because this person has served more than you have.
By the way, if you want to even, like I was saying before, this logic is ridiculous.
The idea that somebody can't have an opinion on something because they've never been a part of it.
I mean, it's so absurd.
It's like, oh, you know, I really, I think the Crips are a really, you know, brutal gang and they're killing all these people.
It's like, well, have you ever been a Crip?
Okay.
Well, until, well, I've been a Crip for 10 years.
So let me tell you something.
You have zero days of being a gangbanger.
So you're going to criticize gangbangers now?
Okay.
Whose opinion is really worth more here?
So it's, it's just like, I don't know what to say, the most idiotic logic you could imagine.
Three days earlier, this guy was at a meeting going, wait a second, you're putting pregnant bitches up in my airplanes.
Yeah, really.
Well, that's the funny thing about all these fucking these guys, like all of these fucking, you know, like the Raytheon and the Pentagon and the CIA pretending they're woke.
These are the most like fucking chauvinistic organizations imaginable.
By the way, the military, you know, for all their that they can come down on Tucker Carlson for making insensitive comments.
You know, the military has got a pretty big rape problem, by the way.
That never really came up in the whole Me Too movement or any of that shit.
But oh yeah, military's got a huge fucking rape problem.
Go look at the number of women who report being sexually assaulted during their service in the military.
Oh yeah.
And what do they do with them?
What do they do with them when they come forward?
Oh, well, you got to go bring that.
You know, you can't bring that to a court.
That bill that Al Franken was trying to push failed.
No, you got to bring that to your direct superior.
Even if he is the one who did it, you still got to bring it on over to him.
But yeah, no, no, no.
It's all about woke shit and inclusivity and all this bullshit, right?
But anyway, so, but even if you wanted to go by their dumbass argument that, well, I want to listen to people who have actually served, those are the opinions that matter that are more important.
Okay, what percentage of active duty military wants us to pull out of Iraq?
What percentage of them want us to pull out of Afghanistan?
Oh, yeah, super majorities.
But of course, that opinion, it never gets applied to that.
You know what I mean?
Like, like that never goes like, oh, you know, in 2012, the active duty military gave more money to Ron Paul than every other Republican candidate combined.
When the opinion of the military people who have actually served doesn't favor the military-industrial complex, then we don't really have to focus on their opinion too much.
Then, then this whole argument goes out the window.
Anyway, let's play some more from the person with more experience than us.
Combat operations out at sea and in garrison.
And so he was talking specifically about pregnant women in the armed forces today and how it makes us less lethal and less fit and less ready.
Let me tell you where he's wrong.
Those decisions were made by medical professionals, by commanders, and our civilian leadership.
That allows for women to have more time with their children to recuperate, to get fit and ready, to take that time that's necessary that our medical professionals know is needed.
It actually makes us a more lethal and ready and fit force, ready to fight the wars of today and the wars of tomorrow.
The bottom line is that we value women in our armed forces.
We value those that have served in the past and we value those that have served today.
We value our families in the military.
I want to say, God bless everyone that is serving today.
God bless the women that are serving today.
God bless the men and women that are serving today.
God bless our country, our partners, and our allies.
Let's get back to work.
Let's remember that those opinions were made by an individual who has never served a day in his life.
Let's remember that's all about drama TV.
God bless America, Semper Fidelis.
So I will just say, I think, aside from it just being stupid, what's really chilling is just how wildly inappropriate it is for a representative of the Marines to come out and just say, oh, by the way, this opinion that a political commentator gave is a bad opinion.
It doesn't count because he hasn't had service.
And that's just bullshit drama TV.
Like, okay, it's not exactly them coming out and like saying, you don't have a right to say that, but it seems like something out of an authoritarian regime, you know, because we kind of are one.
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Military Competence Matters00:14:49
I also want to point out that he, in part of making the evaluation, he referenced civilian leadership, which I think is counter to his claim that you're not allowed to have an opinion if you haven't actually served in the military.
And I believe speaking to medical personnel would sound like a doctor is allowed to have an opinion.
And you could be a doctor without having served in the military.
So it sounds like you're totally allowed to have an opinion if you haven't served in the military.
And I'm sorry, but it's just not a response to say, well, a doctor designed this.
It's like, wait a minute, did a doctor?
Are you telling me that a doctor made the call that pregnant women are as able to serve in the military?
Or that a doctor once, the um, once you told them that pregnant women were going to serve in the military, then made the call of how best effective they could serve in the military?
Again like, let's get real.
I don't really.
I've never discussed in the history of this program pregnant women serving in the military, because I don't think it's a very big issue.
It's let's get real.
Pregnant women aren't serving in combat roles in the military anyway.
This is all just like, and I don't care that they make these uniforms.
What interests me about all of this?
Like, what I care about is the fucking people of Yemen getting slaughtered, along with the people of Syria Libya Iraq Afghanistan, whatever.
That's what I care about um, and the fact that it's bankrupting our country like that's my issues here and the fact that the guy who's been the best on pointing that out is now getting attacked by the Pentagon on the grounds of this woke bullshit.
That's that, to me, sticks out as something that's that's, you know, worth looking at.
But I, I don't know.
Yeah the the, the whole thing is very weird.
I'm glad that they apologized for it and got a lot of pushback.
That's appropriate, but of course they uh they, they wouldn't be.
Um, you know, it's like the.
Of course all the other people have to jump on it.
So now now, Tucker Carlson right, is not the only one in the press, but the only one of the major big players really in the press who's consistently outspoken against these military interventions.
But all of the other guys who are always quite happy to support these military interventions, they now too have to jump on Tucker Carlson for, you know, committing a woke crime and not just blindly supporting that.
Of course, pregnant women in the military, that's the best thing ever.
If we could, if we could have a military of only pregnant women oh, then we'd have the best military in the history of the world.
That's, you know, of course, what we all believe.
But no body armor, then yeah oh really, please.
They'll probably just show up and the enemy will, will surrender immediately um anyway uh, so of course, they all now have to jump on Tucker Carlson for having the wrong opinion on the military.
You know, I guess Tucker Carlson just doesn't respect the military enough.
But the people who would send them to die in every needless conflict.
They're the ones who really care, right?
So uh, here is our boy Don Lemon, jumping into the fray for decades of service, fighting on the front lines by so many other military women.
Joining me now uh, one of the incredible women who put her life at risk to protect this country, and that is major Mj Hagar.
Thank you so much, major.
I really appreciate you, you joining us this evening and thank you for your service.
So you're a woman and a veteran.
What was going through your mind when you heard those comments?
Yeah, it's difficult.
Um, a couple things went through my mind.
One, clearly he's never served.
Um, you know, I was involved with the fight to open ground combat jobs to women and we found a lot of times and in my own combat experience, I found that the people who were their loudest um against it were the people who have never served in combat.
I would say that those who have experience, you know, with the bullets flying and really in the mix um, don't care what color you are, what gender you are, who you love, what your politics are, competence is everything.
Can this person cover my six?
That's all we care about.
Um, so you find like the real operators, not weighing in and and and saying these types of things, but the, the wannabes, or the people who are um insecure.
Really, what's going on here is people like Tucker Carlson see a pregnant woman warrior who, by the way, we don't send um pregnant women into combat.
Is that true that when it came to the women in the military issue, that the people in the military was pushing for it and all the objectivity was coming from outside the military?
Because I seem to recall that it was the direct opposite.
Yes, it was the direct opposite, but on on top of that, I mean, just like the oof I I don't even know what to say about how like disgusting the whole line of attack coming from this this major is.
So, first of all, she repeats, of course, like the drone that she is.
Well, you haven't served in the military blah blah, blah.
I guess we've.
We've handled that one enough, but the, the point she made and this is what I hate about the, the it's one of the many things that I hate about the woke is that it becomes like, so if you say they all get lumped together, you know like.
I've had this experience before with certain uh, guests on the show and with just conversations in life, where you know, if you say something about black people and they go yeah well, look like marginalized groups like black people and the Lgbt community and women and Latinos, and you're like wait, what I was?
Just, I was talking about black people.
Transgender people have nothing to do with this conversation.
Only in your weird world is this all like molded together into one.
So what she says there, it's a nice sleight of hand that she goes, well, you know, the people who have actually served when the bullets are flying and whizzing by, all they care about is who can cover my back.
I mean, they don't care what color you are or who you love or who you, it's like, yeah, but Tucker Carlson never said anything about what color you are or who you love.
He didn't talk about, you know, whether you're gay or straight or whether you're black or white.
You're just inserting these issues.
Tucker Carlson talked about pregnant women serving, not even women, pregnant women, which maybe he's wrong, but would kind of go directly to what you're talking about, right?
Like whether they have your back.
I mean, and then she even has to concede, oh, and by the way, we don't send pregnant women into combat fighting because, right, by the very, by the very criteria that you just laid out, of course, like, I don't know, I don't think you need to be in the military.
I mean, I have zero days of service, of course.
So, right, my opinion is meaningless on this.
But if I was looking for someone to have my back, like in a fist fight or in any type of combat situation, probably wouldn't want a pregnant woman to be the person.
Is this too politically incorrect?
Have I violated some rule by saying this?
Like, we're not.
Now, the other point that she gets at right here is just shameless personal attack and dig at Tucker Carlson.
So just pull back a few seconds here and then listen to this because this is her next angle, which is just the pregnant woman warrior who, by the way, we don't send eight, nine month pregnant women into combat anyway.
The flight suits are because people are serving in a job and the flight suit is an indicator of that job.
It's also something that you earn through going through pilot training and that type of thing.
But what we find is these people who see these women doing these jobs and are threatened by it and think, gosh, I couldn't do that.
They feel the need to hold us down and try to pull us down.
But luckily, we have so many women, men and women, but we do have women serving bravely on the front line.
Let's pause it there.
And go back.
So thank you, Major, for your psychoanalysis of people who are bringing up the issue of pregnant women serving in the military.
You see, what it is is just your deep-rooted insecurity because you realize that you see these pregnant women who are tougher than you.
And that's why you just want to bring them down.
This is like the most pathetic ad hominem argument you could imagine.
Now, by the way, that's not to say.
They could have came forward and said, listen, these are subordinate roles and we're helping these women bake and mop.
So that's why we created these uniforms.
We didn't want them just taking the days off and being at home.
You could just, you could have said that answer that they're not actually in planes flying around and we didn't want to give off that misconception, but no one said that.
But it's, but it look, and I'm just, I'm trying to direct this back to the point that I was making, right?
Where you see this woke shit being hijacked now.
And it's not like this was supposed to be a left-wing cause initially.
And now, how is the woke shit being used?
No, not forget the, you know, the examples I gave of like Raytheon or JP Morgan Chase or any of these companies that are now using this woke shit, taking this energy that was once supposedly a left-wing cause.
And it's a complete takeover.
Like it's not, this has nothing to do with leftist ideology at all anymore or the principles that they claimed to stand for and represent.
I mean, this is now just the newest version of don't question the military.
If you question the military, first off, you haven't even served.
This is the most right-wing argument you could imagine.
You haven't even served.
Who are you to question the military?
And oh, by the way, if you question it, that means you don't support the troops and yada, yada, yada.
And really, I mean, this argument, this is the same argument as if you didn't want to fight the war, that's just because you're like a bitch.
Like you're a coward, basically.
You just don't, you're, you're just so weak that you don't write.
I mean, it's the same thing.
It's like, oh, well, the reason you're questioning this is because you are insecure when you see these brave warriors.
Like, yeah, there's a bunch of women in the military who are tougher than me.
I don't give a shit about that.
People in Yemen are still being slaughtered.
That's what I care about.
You know, like, don't fucking psychoanalyze me.
Like, can we turn that back around on you?
Oh, maybe you just support the military because you have like a bloodlust and just want to see poor people die.
Maybe that, right?
What are we going to all play amateur psychoanalysts now?
The fuck out of here.
Do you remember that Chappelle bit when he had the hot opera singer on to say things that he couldn't say?
Yeah.
So firstly, that didn't age that well because now it's the reverse where that lady would have to give this stuff to him.
But it's almost like, it's almost like Tucker needs somebody in each category to just do that segment.
So all he needs is a military person to say this.
So then at least they have to take on the arguments.
They can't just go, how dare you say this is a person who didn't serve.
Or he's got to pull that bullshit that they always do.
Like a thousand people from this college signed off on it, where just before the show, he gets even one person from the military.
And this one schmuck who served in the military agrees with my perspective.
And now they can't go, well, you didn't serve it.
Well, he agreed with me.
He's in the military.
Yeah.
It is just, it's interesting to watch the way this stuff gets gets used and manipulated and then comes out to be, you know, like, again, I say it just reminds me of Rothbard's arguments with the original progressive era, that this thing that was supposed to be about, you know, bleeding the rich and helping the poor and the average worker ends up being the thing that's enriching bankers.
You know, it's enriching the people who the whole thing was designed to be against.
And now you see this kind of like leftist, you know, like language being used to push back against the most critical of the military, of the political commentators in the country.
It's bizarre to watch.
All right, let's keep playing the video.
And men and women, but we do have women serving bravely on the front lines and in support roles, keeping us safe.
And I sleep better at night knowing that.
And I think if Tucker Carlson had so much admiration for the Chinese military, you know, his journalism style is a little bit better suited to that type of regime anyway.
So maybe he should, maybe he should pack up.
Yeah.
And you have a lot of men, civilian men and women who support you as well.
We just want you to know that.
So listen, he offered no apology tonight, Major.
Instead, he is accusing the Pentagon of a PR offensive against him when the reality is he was called out for his sexist remarks by soldiers and top brass.
Now he is playing the victim.
Yeah, it's funny, right?
The cancel culture is always bad until they do it to us, right?
The hypocrisy, it's pretty blatant, I think.
But, you know, something that's extraordinary to me and is actually really inspiring to me is it's pretty rare for top brass to make their opinions vocal.
A lot of times in the military, we're raised to believe that, you know, either you don't have opinions or you keep them to yourself.
You certainly don't get involved in anything that looks political.
So I am very heartened.
I don't think that this was spontaneous, you know, support from senior leaders.
I think it was an organized, you know, people got the okay to go ahead and make their voices heard.
I mean, that says something to me about the future of our military, the direction we're going to.
All right.
We can pause it right there.
Thank you, Major.
I got to say, thank you for that.
I really do appreciate it.
I love moments of honesty.
I really just love them.
And sometimes the fact that, see, sometimes there's a benefit.
To these people being in an echo chamber where everyone's just praising you and oh, we all hate Tucker Carlson and of course he's sexist and yeah, and then then they can kind of just take it one step further and one step further and they don't.
They're not guarded.
Does that make sense?
In the same way whereas, like if there was a Pro-tucker person on that panel, then you start to get a little bit more guarded, like you don't want to give them something that they can use as an argument against you.
Um, but when everyone's on your side, you're not even worried about that, so you just kind of let it spill.
Then you start taking it to the next levels like yeah, maybe he should go to China.
This is now what?
This, this is the woke talking point.
Now, if you don't love it, leave it.
That is literally that is what the response to the counterculture Anti-vietnam War was.
Well, you don't like this country?
Why don't you go live with the commies?
Like that's, that's where we're at now.
Yeah, go over you, you're probably more suited for China anyway.
Oh okay um, anyway.
So that starts flowing out and then she lets this uh, little jewel out of her mouth.
You know, what's crazy is that all of us in the military have always kind of been brought up to not enter into domestic political squabbles, and this isn't something and she says herself.
But now she says this is, what was so heartening is that this wasn't just random people in the military criticizing Tucker Carlson.
Oh no no, this was a concerted effort from the very top, and she's damn right about that.
Sexual Harassment Culture00:09:57
And now, why is it?
Why was this the line?
Why was this the guy that they had to go against?
See all this about this being a plot.
I'm just saying she's telling you the same thing.
She's telling you that this was a concerted effort from the very top of the Pentagon to say we are going to attack this cable news host who we don't like.
Now, why is it?
Why is it it?
Do you believe that it's really just that the good men and women of our state sponsored killing force were really offended?
Or do you think maybe it's that the guy who is the most outspoken critic of the stupid bloody, disastrous wars that we fight all over the Middle East and northern Africa slipped up and gave them an opportunity to go, woke police on him and and and try to claim that he's a sexist or whatever the fuck else, whatever else they can throw at him.
I don't know now why.
Why would it be that if you're saying this is our protocol, that we don't really let our political opinions be known or we don't get involved in these fights or, as the colonel said, this is just drama tv, then why are you on drama TV right now?
Oh, I guess, by the way, I guess that doesn't count with Don Lemon's show.
I guess CNN isn't drama TV.
Only Tucker Carlson's show is drama TV.
So there it is.
She let the whole thing slip right there, not even realizing it.
But that's right.
It's a concerted effort from our military to essentially silence, or if not silence, at least mock and attack and dismiss the most popular cable news host in America, who also happens to be the biggest critic of the military.
We're empowering women to work while pregnant.
You're going to hear it.
You try and call in sick and your boss is going to be like, listen, if the Marines can show up to war, you can show up to this office.
No days off.
What a great, what a great world.
You know, that's really what you want.
We care about pregnant women so much.
We'll make them work and we'll have them work at occupying fucking countries who don't want us there.
And how many times do you think it's going to happen with some lady's just gaining some weight and they pull out the jumpsuit and they're like, oh, my bad.
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You know, they care about, it's like the thing that's so disgusting is like these guys like Don Lemon and these others, they're so quick.
It's just like the George W. Bush, Dick Cheneyite shit.
Like they're so quick to show like, no, we really support the troops.
We're the ones who really support the troops and God bless them.
And Tucker Carlson doesn't respect women in the military and all this shit.
And it's like, motherfucker, the vast majority of the troops want us to leave Iraq.
The Iraqi parliament voted for us to leave Iraq.
Okay.
But we didn't.
We're still there.
And you guys don't even cover it.
You don't even like for all this love of the troops and all this shit.
You could care less about these people.
These people are pawns who you will that you have no problem with.
You know, if you turned on Don Lemon's show every night for the last, you know, five years, you'd have no idea what these people have gone through.
There's soldiers committing suicide every day.
Every day.
These people are just, they're blowing their brains out.
They're suffering through like horrific just depression and PTSD and all this shit.
You guys don't care about that.
You don't spend any time covering it.
No, this is, this is drama TV.
Like this is the part that is really drama TV.
Ooh, Tucker said no-no things.
That's what we'll, so that's what we'll spend all of our time on.
So, I mean, at the absolute best.
And by the way, I mean, of, of all the criticisms Tucker's had of the warfare state over the last five years or whatever, you know, I don't really care about this one at all.
I don't really give a shit.
I don't have a strong opinion on fucking pregnant uniforms in the military.
But at the absolute best, if you're going to say what he was doing was drama TV or whatever, well, then you're all guilty of that.
You're all participating in it by making it this huge thing.
And it should be, I think, off-putting and creepy and dangerous.
Everyone should see it as that, that the fucking highest levels of the Pentagon have gotten involved in going after someone for having a political opinion that they don't like.
Feel however you do about the opinion.
That's what they're doing.
They're going after someone for having a political opinion they don't like because it violates woke rules.
And they also happen to be going after the guy who's the most critical of them on all the really important issues.
So I would say that's something to keep in mind.
Here, let's play the video.
I don't actually know if there's any more.
That was the part I wanted to get to, but let's play and see if she gives us one more little nugget.
We have a serious culture problem in the military where we have, you know, like right in my backyard, Vanessa Guyane, we have sexual harassment, sexual assault.
And we're not going to fix those things until the top brass are freed up to express these types of opinions and show support and really draw a line in the sand.
And let's make no mistake, these are the values of our military.
We value a strong military.
It is a military effectiveness issue to be able to employ all assets in the best ways that we can and not hold people back based on antiquated ideas of who is fit to serve.
You know, women used to have to leave the military when they became pregnant.
Explain why maternity uniforms are flights because you said they're so important because it represents a job you're doing.
But explain to us why they're so important.
Yeah, you know, what I also find hypocritical is that women used to be criticized for leaving the military when they got pregnant.
They used to be forced to, and then they were given the option to get out if they were pregnant, which some women get criticized for.
And now it seems we're getting criticized for staying in.
Blows my mind.
I think of women, you know, I'm a mom, but I didn't have kids before I deployed.
And I did fly with a woman who had twins and was pumping milk on TDYs and deployments and in between flights.
And she was just so strong and so incredible.
And that's what I think of.
But these uniforms, it's important because if we only have a set of like fatigues or BDUs, the camouflage looking uniform, which is what we used to have for maternity, when you're a pilot or other jobs that wear flight suits, you know, like miscelliers and things like that, the flight suit is a symbol of what you've accomplished.
You're given the flight suit when you, you know, get your wings and that type of thing.
So to put us in a different uniform when we're pregnant kind of signifies that we're getting taken out of the team.
So I think it's great that they have maternity because women are flying.
I'm done with this.
It's about outfit changes.
It's important to outfits.
So in other words, it's purely symbolic and of no real meaning.
I mean, like whatever.
Again, I'm not even.
Do you think outfits aren't important to women, Dave?
Right.
No, I would never suggest that.
Wait, which side of this should I be on?
I mean, they are.
No, they're not.
Whatever.
Who cares?
But it's funny to be like, first, I don't know, whatever.
These arguments are also terrible.
Like, say it's hypocritical because some people were critical of women when they leave the military because they're pregnant and some people are critical of them when they stay.
Well, that's not what hypocrisy is.
Hypocrisy would be if the same person was critical of you for leaving and staying, like some people being critical of one and the other.
I've never heard of anyone criticizing women for leaving the military when they're pregnant.
But if the same person was criticizing them for both, then sure, that's hypocrisy.
I don't even care.
I just think it's funny that she did let slip there.
That's like, hey, you know, we really do, we have our own problems that we have to deal with with the culture of like sexual harassment and all this and tried to make some very loose connection to that's why we can't have people criticizing pregnant women's uniforms in the military because we have to deal with our own culture.
But it's just kind of like, well, first off, there's no logical connection between the two of those.
And it's like, oh yeah, you guys do have a little bit of a problem within your own culture.
So don't pass this thing off like you're this wonderful, inclusive organization.
Yeah, you have a culture of not caring when women are sexually harassed in the military.
There's also a little bit of a culture of not caring about, you know, innocent people being slaughtered and their lives being ruined.
Maybe we should have a culture of being a little bit more aware about that.
You know, since we're doing this whole woke thing, like, I don't know, how does it violate the rules of like inclusivity when you displace tens of millions of Iraqis and ruin their lives?
I mean, I'm sure there were like, there were some gay people who got displaced.
There were probably some trans, right?
There's got to be a few trans people in Yemen, right?
Fox News Takeover00:01:40
So like, how about that?
So it's interesting that like the woke rules, at least now, the way they're used after this corporate plot, this kind of takeover, the highest levels of government and giant corporations and the corporate press and all this shit, they never really seem to get applied to like the really important violations of human rights and human liberty, right?
Like that, that never seems to come up.
I still have not seen one woke person go, holy shit, you know what?
There might be gay people getting bombed in these weddings.
You know, like, oh, shit.
What if it was a gay wedding in Yemen that we bombed?
Then maybe we'd start getting a little bit more attention.
I don't know.
I'm not holding my breath on it.
Anyway, this was, to me, a fascinating little moment in American political discourse, the Pentagon versus Tucker Carlson.
They really want to cancel him.
They really want him gone.
A whole lot of different forces really want Tucker Carlson gone.
And one of the things that's so bizarre and kind of interesting about it is while there are all these forces that want him gone, it's not like he's got his little show there.
He's got the biggest, the biggest show.
I mean, maybe he goes back and forth with Hannity, but I think for most of the last year, he's been the biggest.
So, you know, it's like they want him gone, but a whole lot of people want him to stay.