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[00:01:34] Heshisocks.com, heaven for your feet. [00:01:38] All right, let's start the show. [00:01:42] We need to roll back the state. === Race and Assimilation (13:49) === [00:01:44] We spy on all of our own citizens. [00:01:46] Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders. [00:01:49] If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now. [00:01:55] Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big. [00:02:00] You're listening to part of the problem on the Gas Digital Network. [00:02:04] Here's your host, James Smith. [00:02:07] What's up, everybody? [00:02:08] Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. [00:02:11] I'm very excited for this episode. [00:02:14] I have with us the man, the myth, the legend, Hotep Jesus, one of my most requested guests, and we've both been badgered online to have a conversation with each other. [00:02:28] I was just on his stream a few days ago, and so I'm very happy that you returned the favor and are coming on the show. [00:02:35] How are you doing, sir? [00:02:36] I'm good, man. [00:02:37] Our conversation was epic. [00:02:38] The people love that. [00:02:39] Yeah, yeah. [00:02:40] I got a great, great response, great response from it. [00:02:44] And then a few hysterical people who, the people who call me racist and you an anti-Semite were hysterical that a black dude and a Jew were having a friendly conversation with each other. [00:02:56] So it's a weird world that we live in today. [00:03:00] So for people who don't know, and I think a lot of my listeners know who you are, but maybe don't know as much about the whole Hotep Nation movement. [00:03:11] What is that? [00:03:12] Let people know. [00:03:14] What do you guys stand for? [00:03:16] So here's the thing: there's a dichotomy in the black community. [00:03:22] If we go, for example, look at hip-hop and the contrast between hip-hop of the early 90s to the late 90s into the 2000s. [00:03:33] You'll see things go from super, I guess you can say, Afrocentric, African-American-centered to like this commercial rap, you know, where Mercedes-Benz and Ralph Lauren Polo, Tommy Hill figure starts to take over. [00:03:49] Like, so it goes from like super conscious to consumer rap. [00:03:55] Well, that consciousness never left the black community. [00:03:58] It was just suppressed. [00:04:00] You'll see movements, for example, like in Harlem on 125th Street, there's a strong quote unquote HOTEP presence there. [00:04:11] But under quote unquote HOTEP are many factions. [00:04:15] I mean, you got Malakazi York, you got the Newopians. [00:04:21] You even got like something called like the Hebrew Israelites, although they would definitely not want to be identified as Hotep because they hate, you know, they believe the Egyptians enslaved them and or whatever, right? [00:04:34] But that consciousness, Noble Drew Ali and the Morris Science Temple, Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, right? [00:04:42] All this stuff to the average black person could be misnomered as HOTEP. [00:04:50] So it's like this, some people would say extremist black nationalists or something or radical blacks, right? [00:05:00] You know, to love to be black is extreme for some people, right? [00:05:08] So, so then it's, there's this, so this is dichotomy. [00:05:11] It's like the alternative is to be, quote unquote, like a black liberal, right? [00:05:17] And this is going to be the type of person who you'll see assimilate into white culture more. [00:05:24] You'll see them often on TV. [00:05:26] They'll be journalists for a lot of these rags that they call media outlets. [00:05:34] They'll be wearing the suit, the suit and tie, the necktie, right? [00:05:38] Whereas you'll see the African-centered people, we're more likely to wear something African or a dashiki or something like that, right? [00:05:47] That would be our formal dress. [00:05:49] We wouldn't adopt the European style of dress. [00:05:53] So they would call us extremists for not conforming, right? [00:05:58] So there's a history behind the Hotep community where you'd have to go back and look at the war, quote unquote, between Marcus Garvey and W.E.B. Du Boy. [00:06:10] W.E.B. Du Boy working with the NAACP got Ru Garvey extradited, thrown in jail even, had his businesses destroyed. [00:06:24] And Marcus Garvey was the UNIA. [00:06:26] And some people would even call it Pan-Africanism, right? [00:06:30] So that's also misnomered as HOTEP. [00:06:34] The term HOTEP was a greeting. [00:06:37] It means peace or satisfaction. [00:06:39] So when we had our meetings or our conferences or public events, when we see each other meet each other, we say hotep. [00:06:50] Instead of like peace, we'll say hotep. [00:06:52] It was a greeting. [00:06:54] And somewhere along the way, the term turned into a pejorative by the black liberal. [00:07:02] So they would call us hoteps. [00:07:04] Now, right around the time that Trayvon Martin got murdered, our solutions are quite different than a black liberal. [00:07:14] The black liberal, they want to march and protest and ask the white man to do something. [00:07:18] And our idea is like, no, we could do it for ourselves. [00:07:21] So I was explaining things like, you know, black economics. [00:07:24] They're like, oh, capitalism's rooted in white supremacy. [00:07:27] Shut up, hotep. [00:07:28] I'm like, how can I be a hotep? [00:07:29] You can't be a hotep. [00:07:30] It's not a noun. [00:07:32] So after getting called that so many different times, I was like, all right, fine, fuck it. [00:07:40] We're hoteps. [00:07:41] Cool. [00:07:43] So I went by the name of Hotep Hannibal. [00:07:47] But I was tweeting very spiritual. [00:07:49] And one day somebody came and they said, who do you think you are? [00:07:52] Some sort of Hotep Jesus. [00:07:54] I was like, oh, I kind of like that better. [00:07:56] Yeah, I am Hotep Jesus. [00:07:57] So that's how I got my name. [00:07:59] But out of that whole thing is how we formed Hotep Nation. [00:08:03] We just formed around them, trying to hurl invective comments around the idea of Hotep. [00:08:09] And we're like, I felt very hurt by it. [00:08:12] You know, I'm like, this shit is ancient. [00:08:13] This is our history, our legacy you're dealing with here. [00:08:16] And you guys are trying to like drag it through the mud. [00:08:19] And I'm just like, nah, not on my watch. [00:08:21] So me and the homies got together and we formed Hotep Nation. [00:08:25] So it was the name Hotep Jesus was really born out of reappropriation, taking the insults thrown at you and saying, I'm going to own that. [00:08:34] So what I get from this, because there's a lot of interesting stuff there and a lot of interesting history. [00:08:40] And so what I'm getting is that the Hotep Nation, your group represents a true desire for Black independence, to promote Black culture, not looking for handouts from white people, not looking for what seems to be, in my view, seems to be very dominant in today's culture is white liberals looking for black faces to be a part of white culture. [00:09:07] Not really looking to bring in black culture. [00:09:09] I mean, they call it multiculturalism, but what they really want is their culture with some brown faces around to put on their pamphlet to say, look how diverse we are. [00:09:20] And this is, I think anybody who's like, I grew up in Brooklyn, I get, it's very funny. [00:09:25] I noticed that a lot of times the people lecturing me about race online will be people who like live in Vermont or something like that, like some white dude from Vermont who's always like, listen, this is what you're being racist or something. [00:09:37] I'm like, I don't think you've ever seen a black person in your life. [00:09:40] But one thing that always stuck out to me, just, you know, having been around lots of different cultures of people was that the social justice warrior culture, the kind of microaggression, perpetually offended by every politically incorrect thing that could be said. [00:09:58] I remember always thinking to myself, this is like the opposite of black culture. [00:10:02] Like if you ever hang out with black people, one of the best things about them is that they are like wonderfully politically incorrect. [00:10:08] Nobody is offended by somebody saying the wrong thing or questioning the wrong thing. [00:10:12] The idea that you could try to make this, this like a microaggression, black people are concerned with what? [00:10:18] Microaggressions and transgender rights. [00:10:21] You think that represents the black community in America? [00:10:24] So it's very interesting to see how much this whole thing, what's put forward, you know, and as you said, you're labeled as the extremist, but this is just a complete misrepresent representation of reality. [00:10:37] Yeah, yeah. [00:10:38] You know, when you look at after slavery was allegedly abolished, right? [00:10:47] And then you look at Brown versus Board of Education, there's two things that they have in common. [00:10:54] And for example, when we look at post-slavery, excuse me, when they sent the education missionaries down south to educate the Negro, really what they were trying to do is make the Negro assimilate culturally. [00:11:18] This is how we act. [00:11:19] This is how we dress. [00:11:20] This is how we behave, right? [00:11:22] Well, the same thing happens in Brown versus Board of Education. [00:11:24] When you look at the text inside Brown versus Board of Education, you'll also see text in there that talks about cultural, basically assimilation. [00:11:35] And that's really what the liberal wants. [00:11:37] They want cultural assimilation. [00:11:39] They don't exactly want us to be our own people and have our own way. [00:11:44] They want us to assimilate into their culture. [00:11:47] Right. [00:11:48] And it seems like the kind of protected, the protected status that they might grant to black people only really exists if you're a liberal. [00:12:00] And once you get outside of that box, I mean, the most vicious kind of blatant over-the-top racism that I've seen, and I mean in the political arena, not like, you know, some kid in school, you know, or something like that, but in the political arena is launched at uh black people who are conservatives. [00:12:19] I mean, they are like, there's no, I know I'm sure you've seen videos of this too, but you'll see like, you know, like Antifa protests when they're yelling at like a black cop or something like that. [00:12:29] And you're like, whoa, all the sudden, all the pretense of like, we're the anti-racist, they're just screaming, you know, Uncle Tom at him and all this shit. [00:12:38] And like, I'm not a big fan of cops, but it's just interesting to watch these kind of left, you know, white people who are so anti-racist all of a sudden single out the black guy and start hurling racial epithets at him. [00:12:51] And you're like, wow. [00:12:52] Oh, I guess you lose your protected status once you're not within, you know, the allowable range of opinion. [00:12:59] Yeah. [00:12:59] It's diversity of skin, but not diversity of thought. [00:13:02] Right. [00:13:03] Right. [00:13:04] That's exactly. [00:13:05] You got to think like them. [00:13:08] And, you know, for example, like you say, the black conservative. [00:13:13] When we look at the popular black conservatives, I can see why. [00:13:15] Like the shit they be saying is just like absurd. [00:13:18] Right. [00:13:19] But that they don't speak for all black conservatives. [00:13:22] You got people like Sonny Johnson who need to be known about way more. [00:13:27] Like if I had to pick somebody who people propped up as the prominent leader of black conservatism, it would be none other than Sonny Johnson. [00:13:37] She's the most practical. [00:13:38] She's the most down to earth. [00:13:40] She's the most real. [00:13:42] But you don't get her. [00:13:44] You get these other characters because they spoon feed white conservatives a certain narrative and they affirm their bias, you know, and it's Grifting one-on-one. [00:13:56] Yeah. [00:13:56] And it seems like there's never really, you know, like an attempt to get to the root problems. [00:14:02] You know, it's always kind of surface level things. [00:14:05] And this is why you see when the like even when the Black Lives Matter movement is, you know, focusing on these things like, you know, Aunt Jemima or like statues. [00:14:17] And you're like, but what does this really do for anyone? [00:14:20] What does this really do for the black community? [00:14:22] It doesn't seem like that's like there are people who are sitting in cells in chains for decades over bullshit that they shouldn't. [00:14:31] And I don't mean like, look, I don't think, you know, people ruin their lives with cocaine and stuff like that. [00:14:36] But you know what? [00:14:37] To throw someone in a cage over a drug is to me kind of ridiculous. [00:14:42] I'm not saying it's great. [00:14:43] You know, I don't think drug use is the best thing out there, but you know, there's like human beings who are literally enslaved right now. [00:14:50] And you're sitting here and talking about utter nonsense, like whether some statue comes down or whether someone's words offended you. [00:14:56] And it seems like, you know, this is not, look, I don't know if it's designed this way, but in effect, it seems like it's just a distraction from real problems. [00:15:06] Yeah, that's exactly what the white liberal has mastered. [00:15:11] They use symbology and symbols to keep the masses distracted. [00:15:17] So these statues and what was the other thing you mentioned? [00:15:21] The Aunt Jemima or whatever. [00:15:23] Like the air Jemima, like removing that's going to change our position in society somehow, right? [00:15:28] Like, no, actually keeping her there is probably better off. === Blue Light Glasses (02:04) === [00:15:33] Like you want to remove a black face. [00:15:35] It's like, why would you want to do that, right? [00:15:37] Yeah, really. [00:15:37] And it's just, it's something people like. [00:15:39] I don't know. [00:15:39] They like the product. [00:15:40] Like, what is it? [00:15:41] Like, I don't know. [00:15:41] It's pancakes. [00:15:42] What are we talking about here? [00:15:44] All right, guys, let's take a quick second. [00:15:45] I want to thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Blue Blocks, Blue Light Glasses. [00:15:51] If you've ever noticed after a long day of looking at your computer, watching television, being on your phone, and then you just don't feel right, it might be the blue light. [00:16:00] Let's be honest, during the pandemic, everyone's been getting way too much screen time. 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[00:17:35] All right, let's get back into the show. === Black Conservative Voices (12:03) === [00:17:37] To your point before, you're saying a lot of the kind of black conservative voices that are pushed do you know miss the mark quite a bit. [00:17:45] And also sometimes the areas of thought that are pushed. [00:17:49] So I noticed the great Walter Williams recently passed away. [00:17:55] I don't know how much of his stuff you've read, but really, really brilliant guy. [00:17:58] And I'd see these kind of boomer con conservatives sharing, you know, quotes from him, but it'd be kind of like selected quotes. [00:18:06] Like they'd kind of be sharing all the stuff that was like, you know, like black people got to get their act together. [00:18:11] You got to take care of your kids. [00:18:12] You have to do all this. [00:18:13] And you're like, okay, yeah, but he also wrote a book called The State Against Blacks and described how the state has destroyed the Black community. [00:18:21] And like, it's not, so I didn't see them sharing all that stuff. [00:18:24] You know what I mean? [00:18:25] But they like to kind of like pick like, oh, okay, see, he's with us here. [00:18:28] Yeah, get off welfare, you know, like, but it's like, okay, but what about the part where he was talking about how these policies have targeted the black community and destroyed the black family? [00:18:38] Which to me, I mean, again, as an outsider looking in, that would be, I would think, if you wanted to help the black community, that would be like right at the center of what you would look at. [00:18:48] I mean, black people in this country, like the first thing they did after slavery was travel all around to get their families back together. [00:18:59] And they kept their families together through brutal oppression for 100 years after, you know, official slavery was abolished. [00:19:07] And yet, you know, these targeted policies, I would put the welfare state, the war on drugs, several other policies have really undermined the black family in a way that even Jim Crow couldn't. [00:19:20] Yeah. [00:19:21] I'm over here looking up the state against blacks. [00:19:24] Trying to get me a copy. [00:19:25] It's like it's fucking sold out. [00:19:28] He made a documentary by the same title, which is also was really great. [00:19:32] It's from you got to get past the fact that it's shot in like 1978 or something like that. [00:19:36] So the video quality is awful, but it's really great. [00:19:39] Oh, I love that. [00:19:40] I love that old grungy feel. [00:19:44] Yeah, it's like Milton Friedman has one. [00:19:47] Um, has that old grungy feel? [00:19:49] I love that though. [00:19:50] Yeah, yeah, I like it too. [00:19:51] It's pretty cool. [00:19:52] Yeah, the uh free to choose, uh, which he was on. [00:19:55] Uh, Walter Williams was featured on the free to choose series in a couple of their episodes, which was great. [00:20:02] And he's just sitting there. [00:20:03] And it's, it's, yeah, you, that's right up your alley. [00:20:06] It's just Walter Williams just wrecking white liberals, just wrecking them right to their face, just sitting there and they have nothing to say to him because he's just smarter than all of them and just has his arguments together. [00:20:18] And yeah, it's, it's, it's great. [00:20:21] Um, so one, you know what? [00:20:22] I was reading a piece that you that you wrote a couple months ago. [00:20:28] I was just recently reading it, but you wrote it like a couple months ago, or you were talking about, I really loved it. [00:20:32] You were talking about how I believe it was the New York magazine reached out to you about doing a piece on the racist culture in Turning Point USA or something like that. [00:20:44] And you were just like, no, I'm just not going to, I'm not going to be your prop for this. [00:20:49] And I know that they, you had like a falling out with Turning Point USA. [00:20:52] So they probably figured, oh, yeah, we could use you. [00:20:54] But you kind of just were like, yeah, I know what you're doing here and I'm not going to be a part of it. [00:20:58] I thought that was great. [00:21:00] Yeah. [00:21:00] Like, like this is, this is the racism of low expectations. [00:21:05] They think I'm stupid, right? [00:21:07] So like, oh, you had a falling out. [00:21:08] Let's grab you and let's have you embarrass this corporation in the public eye, right? [00:21:16] It's like, why don't you talk to me about my tech companies? [00:21:19] Why don't you talk to me about some, you know, hotep nation of what we're building here? [00:21:23] Why do you want to use me like a gossip girl? [00:21:26] I'm not a gossip girl. [00:21:28] Don't, please don't use me like a gossip girl. [00:21:29] Anything I want to say about TPUSA, I'll do on my own platform whenever I feel like it. [00:21:36] And what happened between me and TPUSA is what it is, you know, like I didn't, I didn't fit in that place to begin with. [00:21:44] Right. [00:21:44] You know, like the first time I went to the first meeting, I was like, yeah, I don't belong here. [00:21:49] Right. [00:21:50] And I knew who did belong there. [00:21:54] And when I got to the airport, they flew us out to Arizona. [00:21:59] And on the third day, I came back home and in the Arizona airport, I called the homies up and I said, yo, TPUSA is having an event at the White House. [00:22:09] I got to get y'all in there because I don't think I'm going to last long. [00:22:12] This is what I said before I got kicked out. [00:22:14] I said, because when they find out who I am, they're going to kick me out. [00:22:17] Right. [00:22:19] Sure enough, they did, you know. [00:22:22] But I got my homies in, you know, and they got pictures with Don Jr. and all of that. [00:22:27] And it was a success, you know. [00:22:30] But I just knew I didn't fit the mold because what they're looking for is voters. [00:22:38] And I'm just not interested in voting. [00:22:39] Right. [00:22:40] Like I'm anti-state. [00:22:42] And they want blacks that are going to, you know, spout the rhetoric. [00:22:46] Dems are racist. [00:22:48] Vote Republican. [00:22:49] And it's just like, no, all y'all motherfuckers is racist. [00:22:53] And I ain't voting because fuck the state. [00:22:55] They're basically, they're doing the same thing in maybe a slightly less like ugly form, but it's still basically the same thing. [00:23:06] It's like, okay, so we're going to, you know, like, oh, we see through the racism of Democrats. [00:23:10] And what's the answer? [00:23:12] Vote Republican. [00:23:13] It's like, oh, come on, man. [00:23:15] Like this. [00:23:16] And the thing that really rubbed me the wrong way about Charlie Kirk is I would just, there, there'd be these things like, so when Obama was bragging about the unemployment rate, he'd, he would correctly point out that the government employment rate is bullshit. [00:23:31] This is a bullshit number. [00:23:32] He'd be like, they don't, they don't account for people who drop out of the workforce. [00:23:37] So that's not, if you give up and stop looking for a job, then they don't count you in the unemployment rate. [00:23:42] So that's stupid. [00:23:43] But then as soon as Trump was in there, he goes, look at this great unemployment rate. [00:23:47] And you're like, dude, come on, man. [00:23:49] So you're just, you, you present this philosophy, but you're just using it to support Republicanism, which that I'm not going to get on board with. [00:23:59] But it was, by the way, a quick, what it made me think of this piece that you wrote about just like, like, no, I'm not going to do your story is that there was a, there's a story. [00:24:07] I think this was in like maybe 2015. [00:24:12] It was when Rand Paul was, it first looked like he was going to run for president. [00:24:16] So the New York Times went out to the Mises Institute to basically try to do a hit piece. [00:24:22] I mean, they didn't put it out that way, but they didn't present it that way, of course. [00:24:25] But they were like, oh, we're interested in what you guys want to say. [00:24:28] And they went to Lou Rockwell and he kicked them off the property and he just went, he went, you're part of the regime. [00:24:35] Please leave my property. [00:24:36] And that was his only response to him. [00:24:38] And then one guy, Walter Block, who's an economist there, he did an interview with him and they just, oh, they did him so dirty. [00:24:48] Like he was just trying to explain what anarcho-libertarianism is to them. [00:24:52] And he said at one point, he was using the example of slavery. [00:24:56] And he goes, well, look, why was slavery evil? [00:24:58] Slavery was evil because people were forced, because it violated their right to self-ownership, right? [00:25:05] He goes, if slavery was a voluntary deal, if someone just said, hey, I'll pick cotton for you if you give me a place to stay, then there's nothing wrong with slavery. [00:25:13] You know, it's like the reason slavery is evil is because you forced someone to do it. [00:25:17] And they just like ran a quote of him saying, like, there's nothing wrong with slavery. [00:25:21] Like they did him so dirty. [00:25:23] It was like, just, but so Lou Rockwell had it right. [00:25:25] He's like, no, I'm not even playing with you guys. [00:25:27] But it's a not so subtle like little hint to you that you're like, hey, look, if you want to say, hey, there's this toxic racist environment here. [00:25:39] Well, then listen, we're happy to give you a big glowing write-up and we'll make you like our guy. [00:25:43] If you want to talk about how the conservatives are racist, then you're useful to the liberal establishment and we will help you. [00:25:50] However, if you want to join the conservative establishment, then you're going to get the hit pieces that you got written about you at the Daily Beast and like that type of stuff. [00:25:58] So it's a not so subtle, you know, like indication that it's like, well, so here, which team do you want to play on? [00:26:04] Do you want to play on the team where you get these nice glowing pieces or do you want to play on the team where you're going to get attacked? [00:26:10] You know, and a lot of people understandably get that message. [00:26:14] And a lot of people aren't really built to be like, I don't want to have some major publication writing terrible things about me. [00:26:20] So yeah, I'll play the game. [00:26:22] And that's, that's how they get a lot of people in. [00:26:24] Yeah. [00:26:25] Yeah. [00:26:25] They can't get me though. [00:26:27] You know what I'm saying? [00:26:28] Cause, you know, I'm an independent person and I've always been about being independent and building my own empire. [00:26:36] And, you know, here with the homies, we got Hotep Nation. [00:26:39] So when people come with their Republicanism and their liberalism, I'm just looking at them like, like, great. [00:26:48] Like you have your own ideology and things. [00:26:50] But one thing I won't be is used. [00:26:53] You know what I mean? [00:26:54] I won't be used. [00:26:55] And I won't allow you to use people around me. [00:26:59] But, you know, that's what I've noticed. [00:27:06] I used to always say, man, I wanted to be on Ebony in Essence. [00:27:09] He's a prominent black magazines. [00:27:12] And then I remember I wanted to be featured on the route because root used to be Hotep. [00:27:19] And now I got older. [00:27:20] I'm like, damn, if I were ever on these magazines, you know what selling out and asking is not have to do? [00:27:29] Like compromise my moral integrity, compromise my ideology? [00:27:35] Because you can only be in these places if you complain about white people and make us look like victims, make black people look like victims, you know? [00:27:45] And I think that's just really sad. [00:27:48] And then there's that whole Puritan black middle class thing that I didn't see when I was younger. [00:27:57] Ebony had a certain type of black person, you know, like that one that assimilated in the white culture black person. [00:28:04] And I'm not that guy, you know. [00:28:08] I actually tossed all of my suits in the garbage. [00:28:11] Actually, I gave them away to Goodwill. [00:28:13] So I don't even own a necktie or a suit and I'll never wear one other than to maybe shoot some film or something, right? [00:28:21] Like I wore a tux for the Grifties, right? [00:28:23] So other than wearing it as a costume, because that's what it is to me, I'm not, I'll never assimilate into that type of dress. [00:28:32] I'll wear something from Africa way before I wear, you know, something that was pushed on us by the Puritans, you know. [00:28:40] Even when you look at like, like you mentioned, the black community was, you know, anti-political correctness. [00:28:47] Well, that was part of the reason why the Zoot suit existed. [00:28:50] You know, people wore these suits and they were, you know, tailored a certain way. [00:28:55] And then black culture and the Philippines, they wore these things called Zoot suits, where it was like oversized and baggy, right? [00:29:03] It was like a mockery of the style of dress. [00:29:09] And so we've always been anti-that and watching black people slowly assimilate in the white culture. [00:29:15] I'm like, technically, we're white people now. [00:29:18] I've never seen black people so assimilated. [00:29:22] I mean, even when I look back in the late 2000s, when we used to wear those big baggy pants and big baggy shirts, yeah, it looks ridiculous, but at least it was anti-whatever the fuck was proper, so to speak, right? [00:29:37] And now you got black people who are wearing skinny jeans. === Fashion Evolution (02:27) === [00:29:41] That's that might be my age, but that's one I can never get over. [00:29:44] That never doesn't seem so strange to me. [00:29:46] I mean, even as you say it, it's like, yeah, I guess in hindsight, some of those baggy clothes do look a little ridiculous, but man, it seems so cool at the time. [00:29:54] Like it was like, oh, that is so badass. [00:29:56] Wrappers and skinny jeans is something, I guess it's just my age. [00:29:59] I'll just never be able to get past that. [00:30:01] I can't take anything seriously that you're saying if you're wearing skinny jeans. [00:30:05] I don't know. [00:30:05] That might be my shortcoming, but I just can't, I can't get past it. [00:30:09] All right, guys, let's take a quick second. [00:30:10] I want to thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Manscaped and their new wonderful product, Lawnmower 3.0. [00:30:19] Manscaped is the best in men's below-the-waist grooming. [00:30:23] Manscaped offers precision-engineered tools for your family jewels. [00:30:28] They obsess over their technological developments to provide you the best tools for your grooming experience. [00:30:34] Look, every guy has had the experience of messing around down there with the wrong tools. [00:30:39] It's awful. [00:30:40] You get burned. [00:30:41] You cut yourself. [00:30:42] Don't even think about that again. [00:30:44] That's why Manscaped is here. 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[00:32:35] Like it was like really like sad. [00:32:36] He had one thing that was actually, I think, him committing suicide on a track and like Puffy on the phone being like, oh, dial, pig, don't do it. [00:32:44] And he like kills himself. [00:32:45] It's so dark. [00:32:46] And then by the second album, it was, it was still some of that, but it was a lot of the like, I'm rich now, floss and that type shit. [00:32:54] But it was a little bit more acceptable from him because it came with all that other shit. [00:32:58] Like the message was like, no, it's because I came from such a horrible, awful thing that I can do this now. [00:33:04] And then the other stuff went away and rappers after it just did the kind of like, I'm rich. [00:33:11] Yeah. [00:33:11] And that became like commercial rap. [00:33:14] Yeah. [00:33:14] Yeah. [00:33:14] And then it's like, oh, but this isn't nearly as compelling without the like beginning part. [00:33:18] Right. [00:33:20] Yeah. [00:33:21] Now it's all about the money. [00:33:23] Yeah. [00:33:24] No, absolutely. [00:33:25] And it's, and it's interesting. [00:33:26] It's like, look, like what you said before, I mean, this is part of what's amazing about having the free internet, you know, while we still have it to the degree we still have it. [00:33:34] But at least you kind of can just say what you want to say. [00:33:39] Now, again, that's not completely true on social media and stuff these days, but still more so than if you go and work with any of these big corporations, you're always going to be, it's always going to be a balancing act. [00:33:52] Like, okay, well, if I just don't say this 10%, I'll still be able to get my other 90% out. [00:33:59] And then I can still probably reach some people with that. [00:34:00] And it's like, oh, what do you want? [00:34:01] You want 20% now? [00:34:03] Okay, but I could still get this 80% out. [00:34:04] And I could still, and then you're almost like, yeah, but at what point along that line are you now the problem? [00:34:12] Yeah, the compromise. [00:34:14] Yeah. [00:34:15] That's the same thing that happens with, you know, the rhetoric of a black conservative. [00:34:21] It can be manicured. [00:34:23] You can, your followers can train you. [00:34:26] Okay. [00:34:27] And they can train you by engaging in only a certain type of content. [00:34:33] For example, if I say Trump is the greatest president ever, million retweets, right? [00:34:39] Whatever. [00:34:41] But if I criticize a conservative, you don't get the engagement. [00:34:48] So somebody who's trying to come up in life might say, well, this positive reinforcement, let's keep going with that. [00:34:56] Right. [00:34:56] And every once in a while, you have somebody who makes a mistake and the followers will be like, what are you talking about? [00:35:02] Blah, blah, blah, blah. [00:35:03] And they're like, oh, wait, I stepped on the bees nest. [00:35:05] I shouldn't have said that. [00:35:07] So they won't mention that anymore. [00:35:09] I'm different, you know, where I'm going to express myself regardless. [00:35:18] Right. [00:35:18] And however I feel and however you take it, I'm not going to allow the positive reinforcement to dictate how I think. [00:35:25] Right. [00:35:28] For example, this is running joke where you're not allowed to be pro-black as a black conservative. [00:35:35] You know, you mentioned reparations. [00:35:38] A conservative is going to lose his mind. [00:35:39] Reparations for what? [00:35:40] I didn't own any slaves. [00:35:43] I'm like, okay, watch this. [00:35:45] Didn't you and the rest of your bandits say that the Democrats destroyed the Black community? [00:35:54] Yeah. [00:35:54] Okay. [00:35:55] Are the Democrats a form of the state? [00:35:58] Yeah. [00:35:59] You don't think we should get reparations for that? [00:36:01] And now they're like, right? [00:36:05] NPC brain freeze. [00:36:07] Yeah. [00:36:08] They literally make the case for reparations and then tell you you shouldn't get reparations after they make the case for you. [00:36:17] They outline everything that Democrats have done wrong. [00:36:20] The 94 crime bill, 87 crime bill, Biden, Hillary, all this shit that killed us. [00:36:27] But then they want to talk about slavery. [00:36:28] It's like, bro, you got to update yourself. [00:36:30] We're not even asking for reparations for slavery. [00:36:33] We already know what corporations to go after for reparations for slavery. [00:36:36] That's HSBC and the rest of those big banks, right? [00:36:39] Barclays. [00:36:40] When we're ready for that lawsuit, we can go get that money for slavery from the corporations. [00:36:45] It's not going to come out of your broke ass. [00:36:48] Yeah. [00:36:48] And here's another thing I'd say. [00:36:50] People say, well, what are reparations? [00:36:52] You don't want to check. [00:36:52] I'm like, I don't even want this fiat currency. [00:36:55] You know what I would love is reparations? [00:36:57] Tax exemption. [00:37:00] And then people go, Oh, oh, yeah, that's not a bad idea because they see something in it for themselves. [00:37:08] So I had a debate with CJ Pearson on reparations on Anomaly's channel. [00:37:14] And CJ Pearson was representing the anti-reparations side, a black kid. [00:37:20] And I let him talk for like 30 minutes and I destroyed him towards the end, right? [00:37:25] Let him set himself up. [00:37:28] But the funny thing is, when I changed it to Dems Must Pay, the hashtag Dems Must Pay, I had conservatives come out in droves supporting reparations, right? [00:37:41] That just goes to show you the difference between a conservative grifter and a real conservative. [00:37:49] See, a real conservative is going to look out for people and find a way for people to get retribution for any wrongdoing done by the state, right? [00:37:58] These grifters only care about appeasing their base, so they won't even allow their brain to think about a solution on how we can bring people together. [00:38:08] I just brought black people and white conservatives together with one hashtag under an issue that they work vehemently against. [00:38:18] And it didn't take much thinking at all because they already made the case for it. [00:38:22] But these black conservatives aren't allowed to be pro-black. [00:38:26] So don't even entertain the thought of how we can make reparations make sense. [00:38:30] Well, it's the difference between a thinker and a grifter, right? [00:38:33] Because that's it. [00:38:34] It's that the grifter will actually be scared to think because the think might take them out of their grift. [00:38:40] And there is, even if you don't say reparations, even if you just, I mean, I've seen so many conservatives and black conservatives, white conservatives too, arguing simultaneously, just as you, as you put it, that black people are not victimized in this country, and then arguing that Democrats have destroyed the black community in this country. [00:39:01] So pick one, but you can't have both. [00:39:05] I mean, like, if like, which one of those are you more, are you, are you more attached to? [00:39:10] Because you can't keep both of these contradictory thoughts in your mind. [00:39:13] And that, and, and the other thing that I see from a lot of conservatives, and this is to me, the difference between someone who's just trying to funnel votes into the Republican Party or someone who actually wants to think through these issues, is that there'll be kind of this attitude, whether they say it blatantly, and sometimes they will, but it'll be like, yeah, okay, so black people, you know, Democrats have been controlling your cities for whatever 60 years and they're fucking everything up, yet you keep voting for Democrats. [00:39:39] And it's almost this like, so how stupid are you that you keep supporting Democrats? [00:39:44] And the obvious counter to that is that the other option is Republicans. [00:39:50] And that's a huge part of it. [00:39:52] I'm not saying like, depending on the policy, one party might be slightly better than the other, but it's not like there's no reason why black people haven't been supporting Democrats. [00:40:02] It's because they know that the Republicans hate their guts and have for have for decades and that some of that might be changing. [00:40:10] But, you know, like it's, I remember listening to when that famous tape that got used or was attempted to be used against Obama of Jeremiah Wright. [00:40:22] And he's going off about, you know, and he's dipping into conspiracy theories and stuff like that. [00:40:27] And he's like, you know, and a couple of them, in my opinion, were a little off base, you know. [00:40:31] But he'd say, he was like, they created AIDS and sent it into the black community. [00:40:36] And you're kind of like, all right, I don't know about that one. [00:40:38] And then he goes, they created crack and sent it into the black community. [00:40:41] And you're like, that's pretty much true. [00:40:42] Like that is, I mean, say whatever you want to. [00:40:45] That's, that's at least 80% true. [00:40:47] Like, there's no question that Ronald Reagan was sending to try to help the fucking, what was it, the conquistas in Nicaragua. [00:40:55] He was aiding them while they, while they sold Coke into America, went into the hood while he was fighting a war on drugs. [00:41:03] So that is not that long ago. [00:41:06] Okay. [00:41:06] This is the 80s. [00:41:06] That's not that. [00:41:07] So can you really, Mr. Black conservative, you can't understand why black people maybe would be skeptical about supporting the party that worships Reagan, the guy who was sending crack into the community and then locking them up for having it. [00:41:24] Like this. [00:41:25] So you're just like, yeah, there's a little bit more to this story than just black people are so stupid. [00:41:30] They keep supporting Democrats. [00:41:32] You know, there's like a little bit more. [00:41:33] Maybe they're actually not so stupid and they know a thing or two about Republicans, you know? [00:41:38] I mean, maybe a mix of all. [00:41:39] But like everyone's, every group is, you know, more ignorant about politics than I'd like them to be. [00:41:45] But like, yeah, there's actually, Mr. Republican grifter, there's a little bit more to this puzzle than just what you're presenting. [00:41:51] Like, you know, Republicans were always just pro-black and completely misunderstood. [00:41:56] Like, not exactly. [00:41:58] And then you got to mention the Lily White movement, you know, where Republicans weren't winning the elections like they wanted to. [00:42:07] So they kicked the black people out of the Republican Party, you know, right? [00:42:11] Like the conservatives love to show that picture. [00:42:14] I think it's from like 1869 or something like that, or where you got these black people in Congress that were all Republicans, right? [00:42:23] Sort of like a black caucus. [00:42:26] And they failed to realize the white movement removed them completely from the party to appease to the white southerners to get some of that vote. [00:42:35] So when they say, you know, what happened, they don't mention that, you know, they like to say the whole party switch thing. [00:42:41] But now what happened was y'all kicked us out the party, the party that we helped start. [00:42:46] Yeah. [00:42:46] But they don't mention that Lily White movement. [00:42:50] Yeah. [00:42:50] Yeah. [00:42:50] No, there's, there's a whole, it's easy to kind of cherry pick history and create this narrative that like Republicans were always the abolitionists and then they were always for the black community and always that. [00:43:00] But no, actually, look, the war on drugs has been disastrous for the country in general, but particularly for the black community. [00:43:10] And not just because of what you see, not just the fact that people are thrown in jail, which is, you know, awful enough. [00:43:18] But the truth is for the same reasons that when you had prohibition, you had the rise of gang culture because you create a black market, which is something that a lot of people want. [00:43:29] And you saw, you saw gang culture at the time. [00:43:31] I think it was predominantly in Italians, but you saw the gang culture, the rise of Al Capone and the like and all of this violence that came along with it. [00:43:38] And this is a major contributing factor to the violence in Chicago, in Baltimore, in D.C., in a lot of these places. [00:43:45] It's been an absolute disaster. [00:43:47] And while it was supported by both parties, it was a Republican president, Richard Nixon, who created it. [00:43:53] And it was a Republican president, Ronald Reagan, who really expanded it. [00:43:59] And then Bill Clinton also. [00:44:00] So the Democrats got in on it. [00:44:01] Oh, and for the record, I tweeted this the other day, and I think it was just most people didn't get it. [00:44:06] But I said, I was like, say whatever you will about Joe Biden. [00:44:09] He had the courage to stand up to Ronald Reagan when he was expanding the war on drugs. [00:44:14] He even partnered up with a guy named Strom. [00:44:17] And then a bunch of people were like tweeting back at me. [00:44:19] And they're like, okay, so he did one good thing, whatever. [00:44:21] And I'm like, no, no, no, look it up. [00:44:23] Joe Biden criticized Ronald Reagan for not being more aggressive in the fight of the war on drugs. [00:44:29] This was back in the 80s. [00:44:31] And he partnered up with Strom Thurman, the segregationist, the white racist, to work with him to try to make sure that Ronald Reagan would throw more black kids in jail for nonviolent crimes. [00:44:43] So that's what I was referencing the other. [00:44:45] So anyway, both parties are guilty, but the Republicans definitely have a lot of it on their hands. [00:44:50] It's not as if they don't, you know. [00:44:52] Yeah, I just think that the Democrats have had more control, more power, more influence, especially within the past 60 years. [00:45:09] Sure. [00:45:11] You know, more recent history. [00:45:15] Shit, man, past 20 years. [00:45:18] I mean, just seeing a slow decline of the black community, more power they get. [00:45:27] It's the ideology that's messed up. [00:45:28] You know, it's the fact that people are looking, you know, there's something wrong in our community. [00:45:33] What is government going to do? [00:45:35] And that, that's the mentality that keeps you screwed. [00:45:40] You know, I just remember, you know, when I was entertaining the thought of communism, and I used to try to wrap my head around this shit, man. [00:45:50] And I used to work on it in my head and work on it in my head. [00:45:52] And shit just wouldn't make sense, right? [00:45:55] Economically speaking, you know, the distribution of the resources just couldn't work it out, you know? [00:46:02] And my life was disheveled, which is why I was entertaining it. [00:46:05] I was just like, the government is bad. [00:46:07] It's the government's fault. [00:46:08] I'm broke. [00:46:09] Right. [00:46:10] But when I switched my mentality and said, I'm broke because I fucked up, my whole life changed. [00:46:17] Yeah. [00:46:17] You know, and then I got my own power back. [00:46:20] And in my life, you know, it's been just a rocket ship ever since, you know. [00:46:26] And that's the attitude everybody has to have. [00:46:28] You know, if there's something wrong, you know, for example, like people say, you know, Biden, because of his healthcare policy, you know, healthcare for all. [00:46:39] So, you know, without that, you know, grandma, whoever wouldn't have health care. [00:46:43] And I say, so basically, what you're saying is a system of white supremacy and you want the white supremacists to take care of your grandma. [00:46:50] That's what you're saying. [00:46:50] Because you can't say both. [00:46:53] When in fact, you need to be advocating for your own system of health care, the removal of regulations. [00:47:02] Grandma used to whip up some roots and stuff, you know what I mean, from the garden. [00:47:07] And you was, you know, you felt better if you had a cold or something like that. [00:47:13] Flu, she whipped up two little herbs together and you was good to go. [00:47:20] Nowadays, everybody wants to run to the hospital and take the white man's medicine, you know, which keeps you dependent. [00:47:29] And actually, you know, when you talk about like medicine, medicine, what it does is basically just remove symptoms. [00:47:35] But the problem is those symptoms are there to relieve the body of the stress that was created, the disease. [00:47:43] You know, for example, the formulation of mucus, the formulation of mucus is supposed to grab the disease and you cough and you sneeze to expel such. [00:47:50] So when you take the medicine and it removes the mucus, you're actually removing the very thing that is supposed to help you get better. [00:47:59] Another thing is like a fever, you know, and they say, oh, you know, you're running a fever. === Healthcare Systems (03:51) === [00:48:04] Well, you're running a fever because your body's trying to burn that virus out of your body, right? [00:48:08] But they give you medicine to remove the fever. [00:48:11] So now the virus is like, oh, thank you. [00:48:13] I can run wild now. [00:48:14] You know, people don't understand. [00:48:15] And this is the difference between Hoteps and the average black person is we understand the human body. [00:48:20] We go over biology. [00:48:21] Like, you know, first grade for a hotep is like plant-based diet and understanding the body before we even get into white supremacy or history and understand the body. [00:48:34] This is just something that we have to understand. [00:48:37] So you can heal the body and what you should put in the body and how the black body is different from the other types of races on earth. [00:48:44] You know, so when I think about healthcare, that's what I think about. [00:48:48] What are you doing at home? [00:48:49] Because what you're basically saying is healthcare for all means black people got to pay for white people's bad habits. [00:48:58] And that's a system of white supremacy. [00:49:00] Yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it. [00:49:02] And even according to like the CDC's own data, they'll say like something between 65 and 70% of healthcare costs are associated with preventable illness. [00:49:13] So it's really all, I mean, like you, the, the whole thing, or at least the majority of it is about people living in unhealthy ways, screwing up their own body and then showing up to the hospital like, oh my God, you know, whatever. [00:49:27] I've been eating Cheetos for 30 years and now all of a sudden every organ's failing or something. [00:49:32] And you're like, yeah, well, that's, you know, whatever they're going to do with you at that point isn't going to solve it. [00:49:36] But I think the whole victimization mentality thing that you touched on is really, you know, that's, that's such a key. [00:49:45] I mean, that is, man, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy to have that type of mentality. [00:49:49] It's the, if there's anything I'd want for my daughter in life is just to not have the mentality that you're a victim. [00:49:56] And there will always be areas where you are a victim. [00:49:59] We're all victims in some areas and some more than others, you know? 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[00:51:43] I remember seeing there was this video, this is maybe like four or five years ago or something like that, but there was a video at like a college campus where it was all the, you know, it was like people of color's day or something like that. === Oppression Claims (15:51) === [00:51:56] And so they were, there were all these like people, you know, different, you know, minorities, and they were all like stating their grievances about how they're oppressed in this white supremacist society. [00:52:05] And then they were like yelling at this one group of white kids to get out. [00:52:10] Like, this isn't for you. [00:52:11] Get out. [00:52:12] And I saw kind of like, you know, the alt-right types, like their take on it would be like, look at how awful this is, what they're doing to white people. [00:52:18] They're yelling right at their face, like, you're the problem. [00:52:20] They're telling white college students that you're the problem for everything. [00:52:24] And I remember looking at it and thinking, like, yeah, okay, it's kind of fucked up to be telling some 20-year-old white kid that he's the cause of all these problems. [00:52:32] That's not a cool thing. [00:52:33] But I was like, man, my thought is, look what they're doing to all these people of color. [00:52:37] Like, look at what they're doing to them. [00:52:39] I know you don't like that term. [00:52:40] I don't like that term much either. [00:52:41] But you're like, look what they're doing to them. [00:52:43] They're ruining them. [00:52:45] I mean, you can get past some other people yelling at you some racial slur or something, like, whatever. [00:52:50] It sucks, but you can get past that. [00:52:52] But to teach someone at this age that you are a constant victim and that every little slight that happens to you should be perceived as this huge catastrophe that you must live in this state. [00:53:06] It's like, man, this is just like the worst thing you could do to a group of 20-year-olds in the world. [00:53:11] And the truth is that these are 20-year-olds at a liberal arts college. [00:53:18] Like you're privileged. [00:53:20] You have a great life. [00:53:22] You have a better, you are at a better starting place than 99.999% of humans who have ever existed. [00:53:29] And you're obsessed with the fact that literally, like someone said, where are you from? [00:53:33] And they're like, that's disrespectful to my immigrant family. [00:53:36] Like, dude, get over it, man. [00:53:39] Get past this. [00:53:40] Yeah. [00:53:40] When you look at, you know, like when I was, I noticed a trend when I was getting attacked. [00:53:45] You know, it was just like, none of these people was from the streets, man. [00:53:49] They all was blue checked up and they worked for the white man. [00:53:53] Here I am working for my goddamn self. [00:53:54] They over here working for the white man telling me about their victims of white supremacy. [00:53:58] I'm like, dude, you got a spot on CNN. [00:54:02] You got a spot at Huffington Post. [00:54:04] You're an editor at like some of the largest corporations in America. [00:54:10] And you're claiming you're oppressed. [00:54:12] You're claiming that black people are the hell behind. [00:54:14] And I'm just like, you should be the last person to say that because you're not even experiencing that, right? [00:54:21] You're experiencing the privilege of being a black liberal. [00:54:26] Come sit in my seat. [00:54:27] Well, yeah. [00:54:28] And there's something to it where, like, people, you know, it's like this thing that people like to, you know, it's the obsession over like racism or anti-Semitism or homophobia, the way it's currently thought of, like the way the words are used, where it's like, well, what exactly are you saying here? [00:54:49] Like, what precisely do you mean by this? [00:54:52] Because I get like people, even after we did our podcast or people be sending me tweets like, well, Hotep is an anti-Semite. [00:54:59] I mean, he said this and this. [00:55:00] And I'm like, well, okay, but what do you mean he's an anti-Semite? [00:55:03] Because like, I've seen him like, he preys on Michael Malice. [00:55:07] Me and him just had a great conversation. [00:55:09] So are you saying that like he hates Jewish people so much that if he saw one, he'd be like, get away from me. [00:55:14] You was like, that's not true. [00:55:15] That's clearly not true. [00:55:16] Right. [00:55:17] So what do you mean by this? [00:55:18] And then it'll be like, oh, well, he said this thing about media influence being Jewish or something. [00:55:23] And you're like, is that wrong? [00:55:26] And then they kind of like almost have this thing like, yeah, but you're just not supposed to say this. [00:55:30] And I'm like, oh, look, I don't know. [00:55:32] Look, dude, like, I'm, I'm Jew, you know, but I kind of care about logic and consistency. [00:55:40] And so like, if I were to say, um, if you say black people dominate the NFL, right? [00:55:48] Nobody immediately goes to you and goes, oh, so you're saying that every black person dominates the NFL? [00:55:54] Like, well, obviously that's not what I'm saying. [00:55:57] I'm obviously not saying, but everyone knows what I am saying by that. [00:56:02] So why is there this double standard where like you're allowed to say this, but not that? [00:56:07] Like, why are we treating someone? [00:56:09] Why, why not give someone the benefit of the doubt that they're not making the most retarded statement ever? [00:56:15] And they're probably, when I say black people dominate the NFL, I'm talking about the fact that like black people are 13% of the population and whatever, like 80% of the NFL. [00:56:24] That's probably what I'm talking about. [00:56:26] And not saying that every single black person I pass on the street is a wide receiver for the Falcons or something, right? [00:56:33] Like probably that's not what I mean. [00:56:35] So there becomes this whole thing where you're like, so what, like, what do you mean when someone gets accused of being racist or something like that? [00:56:43] Do you mean that if I saw a black person next to me, I'd be like, get the hell away from me? [00:56:48] Or do you mean that I brought up black crime stats once? [00:56:51] You know, like, like, like, what, what exactly do we mean by these terms? [00:56:54] Because they're very weaponized. [00:56:56] Yeah. [00:56:56] And they, they try to create this image that like, if you've brought up these subjects, you're not allowed to bring up, that means you hate a group of people based on who they are, which generally I see very little of. [00:57:10] Like, that's, that's my personal perspective on it. [00:57:12] Yeah. [00:57:13] Somebody came in my mansion. [00:57:15] Well, often people come in my mansions and they call me racist. [00:57:19] And my response to that is, okay, so where do we go from here? [00:57:24] Right. [00:57:25] I, I, I perceive myself as a racist. [00:57:29] And there's several definitions of racist. [00:57:32] And I hate everybody equally. [00:57:34] Right. [00:57:35] And I love everybody equally. [00:57:38] And that's the nuance to thinking, right? [00:57:42] Hating certain things about certain groups of people and loving certain things about certain groups of people and understanding that everyone's still an individual. [00:57:50] You know what I mean? [00:57:52] I can talk about what the Arab world did to African history. [00:58:00] I could talk about that all day. [00:58:02] That's brutal. [00:58:03] Yeah. [00:58:04] You want to see some real brutality? [00:58:06] The Muslim slave trade was vicious. [00:58:09] Crazy. [00:58:10] Barbie trade slave trade. [00:58:12] So, but I got Muslim friends and homies. [00:58:18] Like my business partner is Muslim. [00:58:21] You know, like they don't take it as, oh my God, it's Islamophobia. [00:58:27] You know what I mean? [00:58:29] But I've come to learn that there's another group of people you're never allowed to criticize. [00:58:35] And I've learned my lesson. [00:58:37] I said, oh, we're actually not allowed to talk about them. [00:58:41] So I asked myself, why is that? [00:58:44] And what I realized was, is they were clever enough to create a whole bunch of lobbying groups that basically monitor speech surrounding them. [00:58:55] So I said to myself, well, where's our groups? [00:59:00] And then our group is the NAACP. [00:59:03] When you go look at that, you see a whole bunch of European faces and white passing Negroes. [00:59:10] I said, oh, we ain't got none. [00:59:13] All of our groups are basically co-opted and controlled. [00:59:18] For example, there's a guy the other day that wrote a tweet about Hitler and he lost his job. [00:59:24] Well, he lost his job because one of those groups that monitors speech online, Blue Checked Up, did the investigation and reached out to his job. [00:59:35] And like they have people on watch that just do that shit all day, right? [00:59:40] And go dig up your old tweets. [00:59:42] And it's a very clever way to guard your intellectual property and guard your likeness. [00:59:50] So I'm a very, I like to think in power, right? [00:59:56] And in terms of power. [00:59:59] So I go, that's intellectual. [01:00:02] To operate with your group like that is intellectual. [01:00:05] Black people are unintellectual with our likeness. [01:00:09] We don't care how we're portrayed on TV as long as we're there, right? [01:00:13] In China, man, they edit the movies before they even get to China. [01:00:18] And you're not even allowed to portray Chinese people as thieves in movies, right? [01:00:25] Hollywood is demanded to edit things up. [01:00:28] Black Panther's face had to be edited up on the cover before it went over to China, right? [01:00:34] Nobody says anything about that either. [01:00:37] And so really what it comes down to is power. [01:00:40] Which group has the most power and who's operating in an organized manner? [01:00:46] Yeah. [01:00:46] Yeah. [01:00:47] No, I completely agree with you. [01:00:49] And I think that it's, it's always interesting whenever you, and look, like we're all human beings. [01:00:55] So like we get some things right, we get some things wrong. [01:00:58] You know what I mean? [01:00:59] And you're like, that's just the nature of being a human. [01:01:02] But it's interesting when you touch on one topic, especially when you're just asking questions about it and you realize this is like a third rail. [01:01:10] And if you are, you know, like intellectually curious, usually people's reaction to that is like, okay, why? [01:01:18] Like, why is this such a third rail? [01:01:20] Why is this the topic I'm not allowed to talk about? [01:01:23] And my response that I said, you know, to like a couple of people who tweeted at me this thing, like, why are you talking to Hotep? [01:01:30] He's a, he's, you know, an anti-Semite. [01:01:32] And I'd be like, yeah, but people also call me racist. [01:01:35] So like, why, like, wouldn't you want us to have a conversation? [01:01:38] Wouldn't that be better? [01:01:39] But the truth is that a lot of these things get get completely driven underground when you're not allowed to have a conversation about it. [01:01:47] And then you don't end up hammering anything out or working things out. [01:01:51] And like, I'll tell you, I was like, look, I grew up about a mile from Crown Heights where there were like straight up like Jew versus black riots and stuff. [01:02:03] And I was like, look, there's some tensions between these two communities. [01:02:07] Maybe it's not the worst thing in the world that there's some communication between them. [01:02:11] And the truth is that the, I think that most of the time when, uh, when at least in Crown Heights for sure, and I think for the most part, when the relationships between like the black community and the Jewish community is usually landlord, tenant, it's usually kind of like the power imbalance is kind of pretty directly on one side. [01:02:38] And I'm not like some commie who's like abolish landlords or anything like that, but I'm just saying that it's like, if there is a group that is like pissed off and or says something wrong, are you really saying that we should persecute the group who has no power in the relationship for saying the wrong thing? [01:02:56] Is that the spirit of like tolerance now? [01:02:59] It just that that's something about that seems wrong to me. [01:03:02] And I'd rather like have this conversation. [01:03:05] And the other thing is that what it all really comes down to, whatever anyone's views are, is like, what are you advocating? [01:03:12] Like, what are you advocating we do? [01:03:14] So even when you started talking about reparations before, that's where my mind starts going. [01:03:18] It's like, oh, what are you advocating we do? [01:03:20] And then you're like, tax credits, let black people keep more of their own money. [01:03:24] I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, that seems like what it really comes down to is what policy you're advocating. [01:03:29] And what you're advocating is like, let's stop robbing us. [01:03:33] Let us build up our own power. [01:03:35] And then we won't need to, you know, complain about your power. [01:03:39] And it's like, that's, to me, seems like great. [01:03:42] I don't know. [01:03:43] What's the problem with that? [01:03:45] Absolutely. [01:03:46] Absolutely. [01:03:46] I love that you brought up the Crown Heist thing because, you know, what I was quoted about was, that's exactly what I was talking about. [01:03:54] Oh, really? [01:03:54] Yeah. [01:03:55] I mean, when you're quote unquote hot, you know, that's probably like the second subject you're taught about is the relationship between Jews and blacks. [01:04:05] It's, we've been on the ass whooping receiving end of that relationship for a very long time, you know, even when we talk about slavery, you know, you're not allowed to talk about that. [01:04:18] But as long as I say white people did slavery, it's like, it's cool. [01:04:21] Well, that's the weird. [01:04:22] And that's the thing that can't really be logically explained. [01:04:26] Like, why is that not if somebody said white people enslaved black people in this country? [01:04:31] Yeah. [01:04:31] The least offensive statement ever. [01:04:33] Yeah. [01:04:34] There's nothing, nobody has a problem, but it has all the same problems. [01:04:37] Like, well, not every white person. [01:04:38] It's like, yeah, okay, I know. [01:04:40] But as a trend, like the vast majority of slave owners were white and the vast majority of slaves were black, overwhelmingly, and both sides. [01:04:49] So we tend to say that. [01:04:51] And, but yes, you're, you're, I guess, not allowed to talk about any other disproportionate influence in that trade. [01:04:58] You know, I'm scared to talk about it right now. [01:04:59] I'm like, I'm about to lose my YouTube channel. [01:05:01] I'm going to be kicked out of the club. [01:05:05] Yeah, you can't, you can't talk about it, you know? [01:05:08] So I don't. [01:05:10] Yeah. [01:05:11] Well, it is there. [01:05:12] Sometimes you do have to, you know, consider kind of like optics and PR and stuff like that, unfortunately. [01:05:18] But I'd say to me, my measure is like, if you, if you like, I judge two things. [01:05:25] Okay. [01:05:25] Number one, what policy are you advocating for? [01:05:29] That's like really what it comes down to. [01:05:30] And if you're advocating, we, we oppress another group of people, we rob from another group of people, we kill another group of people. [01:05:36] If anyone's advocating something like that, okay, then that's fucked up and that's the problem. [01:05:40] And the other thing I judge is just how you treat human beings. [01:05:43] And if you treat someone you meet, like if you treat an individual like shitty, if you're like, if you're horrible to an individual based on them belonging to some group, then I think that's wrong. [01:05:54] And that's not a person I would want to associate with. [01:05:56] But if you check both of those boxes, then I think everything should be fair game. [01:06:02] Like, and we would, we would live in a much better society if we were just like, hey, people are allowed to talk. [01:06:07] None of these topics are off limits. [01:06:09] We can discuss them. [01:06:10] Can get to the bottom of them and we can assign blame or credit where it's due. [01:06:16] That I would just rather live in that world. [01:06:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, man. [01:06:20] You know, I like how you broke that down in the policy, you know, because I'm definitely not advocating for violence against any group of people. [01:06:29] In fact, I was on a podcast last night, Black History Podcast, and a dude talked about some violent things or some extortion tactics. [01:06:40] And I'm just like, that's low-level thinking, right? [01:06:44] Like, when I think about colonization, I don't think about colonization with the gun. [01:06:48] You know, as I was in my research, I found America was colonized with whiskey and smallpox and dependence upon capital goods, right? [01:07:02] Dependence upon capital goods. [01:07:04] For example, the Natives would hunt a certain way, but when the Europeans showed them traps, they're like, oh, cool, traps. [01:07:12] But then you're dependent upon them to create the traps. [01:07:15] And now you're part of their, you're dependent on their economy, right? [01:07:18] And again, coming back to production. [01:07:20] So, you know, and then the whiskey, it destroys your ambition and morale and, you know, your intellectual prowess, so on and so forth. [01:07:30] But the gun was the least effective in colonization. [01:07:37] The most effective was control of the money, money supply, you know. [01:07:45] That's how America was colonized. === Strategy Against Power (03:21) === [01:07:47] Yep. [01:07:47] And particularly, what you're saying is particularly true if you're going up against the powerful. [01:07:53] So, you know, like a gun, first off, it's wrong and immoral, but it can work if you're the powerful and you're imposing yourself on the weak. [01:08:02] But if you're trying to go against the powerful, using force is just a terrible strategy. [01:08:08] And this to me was like the thing with the January 6th, you know, thing. [01:08:13] It's like, look, what do you guys, what's the plan here? [01:08:16] You think you're going to violently take on the federal government? [01:08:18] You think you're going to win that fight? [01:08:20] Like, that's not if you're looking for a revolution, which I don't even think they were. [01:08:24] I think it was just they got carried away, you know, in a moment. [01:08:27] But if you were theoretically like looking to take on the federal government, you'll lose that battle a million out of a million times. [01:08:34] They have more guns. [01:08:35] They have more military. [01:08:37] They can beat you in a violent conflict every time. [01:08:41] Jeff Dice, who's the president of the Mises Institute, who I love, he said this, and I thought this was brilliant. [01:08:47] He goes, if you really, if you were like a conservative who wanted to revolt against the system, here's what you do. [01:08:55] And he goes, in your local rural red district, just start teaching prayer in public school again. [01:09:02] Just start doing it. [01:09:03] Defy the feds and dare them, dare them to actually send federal agents in to stop you from teaching prayer and let everybody else see that they would bring guns to you for just teaching prayer in public school. [01:09:16] And then if they come in with the guns, you go, okay, we'll stop, no problem. [01:09:19] And then when they leave, start teaching prayer again. [01:09:22] Like that's that you got to like strategize about this stuff if you're going to take on the powerful. [01:09:26] You have to do it in a way where you expect, look, this was one of the things that was really brilliant about Martin Luther King. [01:09:33] However you feel about any of his views or his strategies, what was brilliant about him is that he understood, I am going to make this nation watch young black people in suits and ties walking down the street saying, we would like our rights getting hosed down and having dogs sicked on them. [01:09:52] And I'm going to like hold every white person's face to the TV and hold their eyes open and go, look at that. [01:09:58] And you tell me if that's right. [01:10:00] And he shamed a huge portion of white people in this country into going, ah, shit. [01:10:08] That's real. [01:10:09] It was okay when it was like over there and I didn't really have to look at it. [01:10:12] But if I got to look at that, like, ah, Jesus, man, that's, that's not good, you know? [01:10:18] And, and it wasn't even really the South. [01:10:20] He shamed the rest of the country into saying, yeah, the South needs to get their shit together and stop doing this. [01:10:26] So you got to be strategic about how you take on power, you know? [01:10:30] Yeah, absolutely. [01:10:31] Yeah. [01:10:32] It's got to be intellectual. [01:10:34] Yeah, absolutely. [01:10:35] All right, dude. [01:10:36] Well, look, we're over time, but we got to do this again sometime soon. [01:10:39] We didn't even talk about the LP takeover anymore, which I promise next time we'll talk more about that. [01:10:44] And I'll try to try to pitch you more on that move. [01:10:48] But I really enjoyed being on your show. [01:10:50] Really enjoyed having you on here as well. [01:10:52] So thank you very much for your time. [01:10:53] Everybody, follow Hotep Jesus on Twitter at Hotep Jesus. [01:10:58] Where else can they check out your stuff? [01:11:01] Just hotepnation.com. [01:11:04] Okay, absolutely. [01:11:05] Thanks one more time. [01:11:06] Thanks, everybody, for listening. [01:11:07] Thank you. [01:11:07] We'll be back on Friday. [01:11:09] Peace.