James Smith and Robbie Bernstein dissect the chaotic, largely unarmed January 6th mobbing versus organized coups, exposing hypocrisy in condemning right-wing violence while excusing left-wing riots. They analyze the Georgia runoffs creating a Democratic trifecta under Kamala Harris, arguing that despite her fabricated stroller story, Trump's victory stemmed from elite failures regarding wars and opioids. Ultimately, unresolved resentment over economic stagnation will fuel populism unless libertarians offer better solutions for neglected Americans beyond corporate narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
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Was It An Armed Revolution00:15:20
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What's up?
Holy moly.
What a goddamn day, Rob.
You know, sometimes, so we recorded an episode this morning, about 11 a.m.
And the big news we were talking about, really big news, was the Senate runoff elections.
And every now and then, when you're in this business, you do a podcast and then some big news happens and you're like, shit, now we don't get to talk about this for like two days.
But this is.
It's the bigaloo, baby.
I'm on team chief guy.
That's why I got my hat.
You got to start picking sides and I'm going team chief.
I tweeted this today, but I was joking, but there was a part of me that was kind of serious where I was like, please don't let me see a part of the problem t-shirt in the middle of all of this.
Like I, you know, it's just not great for the old image.
But anyway, every now and then there's something big enough where you're like, no, I think we actually got to jump on a fucking stream and talk about this now.
It's going down.
Country's over.
Maybe not quite.
Maybe not quite, but it certainly was.
You know, that was, that was something today.
That was something historic.
For anybody who doesn't know, is this even necessary to say anybody who doesn't know?
There was a big Trump rally protest in Stop the Steel protest in Washington, D.C.
And a few hundred people ended up storming the Capitol building.
They were able to push their way past the police who were guarding the building and basically took over the building.
It was a pretty wild scene.
There's, you know, I usually with these things, like, I like to usually take a day to think about, you know, kind of get my thoughts together on these things.
This might be our last day to broadcast.
It could be over.
So we got to take advantage.
Yeah.
You got to get on the air while we can.
But you know, like people, one of the things that was like during the debates during, you know, the election season, one of the things that's really popular that people like to do is like live stream the debates.
And people were like, oh, look, man, you should do this.
You know, you get big download numbers or big viewer numbers off of that.
And I was always kind of like, yeah, but I don't, I want to watch the debate, take it in, think about it, and then give you my take on it.
I'm not, I don't want to react to it live time with like half thought out ideas.
So, you know, this was a few hours ago.
Let me try to get my thoughts together on what I think, you know, the significance of this is my take on the whole situation.
And you give your take, of course, on the whole thing.
And it's almost hard to not start with all of the hypocrisy that you see from so many different groups.
But let me try not to do that.
Let me just start by saying this, okay?
I think many people who are in our space have conflicting feelings about something like this because you're kind of simultaneously horrified and kind of, it's kind of cathartic also in a weird way, right?
But let me just start off by saying that I think what happened today was terrible.
And I think it was just terrible all around.
It was terrible in terms of what ended up happening.
And it was terrible in terms of what the outcome ultimately of all of this will be.
This is not, it's not what many in the press are trying to make this out to be.
This was not a coup attempt.
This wasn't some, you know, this was not like a well-organized militia storming the Capitol building.
This was a mob. that got excited and fucking went for it.
Now, I mean, I don't know whether it was pre-planned or not.
My guess is not.
My guess is that this was just in the moment, facing off with police.
They're furious and they just stormed through.
But nobody was armed.
People weren't running in.
This wasn't like running in to execute politicians or something like that.
But while this was not an attempted coup, as is being reported, they were LARPing as if they were attempting a coup.
They were kind of like, it was almost like, you know, in the same way that I knocked the chaz guys in Seattle, where you're kind of like, oh, you guys are playing pretend, you know, secession.
Or, you know, this was like almost like, oh, we're going to play pretend fucking revolution.
Wouldn't that be kind of fun?
Oh, yeah, okay, we'll storm in there.
And, you know, like, my point is just like, this wasn't an armed militia storming in to fucking execute politicians.
This was, these were people storming in to take selfies in Nancy Pelosi's office.
And so just saying, when you play these fucking games, I don't know what the fuck you think is going to happen.
And unlike even more so than the people in Seattle, it's like, what the fuck do you think is going to happen?
You storm the state building?
And now, yeah, this chick got shot in the neck and killed.
Like, that's, that's the type of thing that's going to happen.
So there are a whole bunch of fucking, that's, you know, like, what was accomplished by all of this?
It's like, okay, there's a woman who's dead.
There's probably, you know, several injuries to other people.
You know, this is going to make it easy to demonize the Trump supporters, demonize conservatism.
It will surely lead to nothing but less liberty, right?
Like this is going to make it much easier.
They're going to use this as an excuse to crack down now on dissidents, on, you know, whatever, gun owners, on right-wingers, whatever, you know, the excuse they can use.
And oh, by the way, at the end of all of this, Joe Biden's still going to be the president.
Like this, so on every level, this was stupid and terrible and destructive.
And the only thing that's going to come from this is that you've weakened your own cause.
Some chick is dead and a bunch of other people are probably injured.
I don't actually know, but I'm assuming there's other injured people.
I believe there's just the one dead person there.
So I think this is bad.
That being said, you know, I saw a couple people were giving me shit on Twitter earlier today.
And I'll get into that in a little bit.
But some people were saying that if I don't condemn this, which by the way, I'm not condemning anything to please them.
I'm just giving you my honest take on this shit.
But they were saying, if I don't condemn this, then it's hypocrisy because I condemned the riots all summer long, which I think is just so ridiculous.
Like, and I can't, it's actually kind of crazy that a libertarian could even suggest this and doesn't understand the difference.
Like, obviously, there is a fucking huge difference between storming a government building and just going around and destroying businesses.
I'm sorry.
That is not the same thing.
And these people who think I'm like somehow guilty of hypocrisy on this issue, I mean, like, look, I actually talked about this a bunch with you this summer where I said, like, it's goes, look, if Black Lives Matter was just fucking storming a police precinct, it's kind of like, eh, all right.
You know, I don't know.
They're storming the aggressors.
Then, hmm, I don't know.
I don't really know what you can say about that.
I mean, I might say, like, yeah, it's probably not going to work out well for you.
Not a great plan.
Probably just going to result in blood.
But I wouldn't be all like outraged and like fucking, you know, up in arms about it.
But if fucking MAGA supporters were going around just smashing business, businesses apart, killing people, assaulting people, terrorizing people, if they were getting up in the face of people sitting at a restaurant and demanding they scream Donald Trump's your president or something, I would be every bit as outraged.
Now, I haven't seen any of that.
So there's no hypocrisy here.
I would treat it exactly the same.
I have one standard.
I don't need two.
So again, this is different.
And libertarians, I'm sorry, it's not so clear cut when you storm the Capitol building.
I mean, you know, the Libertarian Party, I believe, called it an act of aggression, of course, because of the Libertarian Party.
And it's like, well, it's a little bit debatable.
I mean, who is more guilty of aggression than the United States of America's federal government?
They are the aggressors every single fucking day of their lives.
And, you know, it's at least these guys were taking it out on the right target, whether or not you agree with what they're there for.
And look, I don't, like I said, I think it was bad.
It's not the same thing that I was outraged about this summer.
But I will also say, you know, it was something like a few episodes ago.
I remember me and you were talking about how it was almost like they were daring people to rise up.
You know, like it was almost like they were intentionally trying to prod on a revolution.
I think we were talking about it when they were, you know, slipping all of that stuff into the COVID relief bill.
And we're like, do they just want a fucking revolution in this country?
And I do feel like, you know, I don't know.
You got people here who have been fucking, you know, locked up for most of the year.
Their businesses have been fucking destroyed.
They've been called racist if they don't support, you know, riots all across American cities.
And of course, from their perspective, the election has been stolen from them.
Now, I don't really particularly agree with the last part.
I haven't been convinced of that, but I certainly agree with the other parts of it.
And yeah, they got fucking angry and they flipped and did something stupid.
But I don't know.
What are your thoughts from today's crazy events?
All right.
Well, off the bat, and I think this might be something that you've said on the show, but isn't it crazy that there are these many people in the world that are this passionate about Donald Trump?
Like, I understand being upset with government.
What I don't understand is really feeling this passionate about Trump that like you're willing to, you know what I mean?
But I think it's not so much that they like Trump as much as they just hate the current state of the government.
Maybe.
But this is where government's really fucking up is that either Trump's the world's greatest liar, there was no election fraud, and this guy is so amazing that he's able to, you know, wring together a bullshit story that people are willing to believe.
And it's totally not true.
Or the election was fucking stolen from him.
But it comes back to the point, we need to figure out a way that we can decipher fact from fiction so that you don't have this many people who actually want that.
That's what people are really upset about.
They're not sure, hey, was this thing stolen or not?
And they're pretty convinced that it was.
And they're like, Well, then this.
We're not, we're not going to live.
You know what I mean?
It's not so much Trump support as much as it's this.
I'm not living in some country banana republic where someone can just steal an election against the guy that I wanted to elect.
Yeah.
And so we've got to figure out how to not be living in this gray space where is government brushing under the rug or is Trump just a liar?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's uh, it's it's right.
It's, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know, but even all of that stuff aside, because you know, we have talked about the fucking election fraud issue and all of that.
And I'm not really convinced one way or the other.
But it is, you know, worth pointing out that it's not, you know, it's not as if these people are storming the fucking Capitol building because they, you know, want to, you know, it's not as if, like, oh, there's this tyrannical government and we're storming this building to overthrow this tyrannical government.
I mean, it seems like many of them are quite happy keeping this tyrannical government as long as it's their prison guard in charge.
So I don't know, like, you know, that to me is far from a worthy, you know, cause.
There are some real oddities, which the first one being how easily they took it and the lack of security.
Oh, man, that is such a good point.
Yes.
Really does make it look like maybe there were hired people there who walked in first and everyone's like, oh, I guess we're walking in.
Now, I'm not saying that that is what happened, but I'm just saying it is so odd, the lack of security and the lack of pushback.
I mean, I would have thought right off the bat, there's a lot more security and they're shooting at the doors.
Well, I wouldn't have thought they're just like, oh, I guess they're walking in here.
All right.
Yeah, that no, you're, you're absolutely right.
That's that's an excellent point.
And look, if anything good is to come out of this, um, which I don't think good will come out of this, but if anything good does come out of this, it's like, number one, it definitely scared the shit out of a bunch of politicians, you know.
Um, but it is really something to behold to see that like this could be done this easily.
I mean, like I said at the beginning, like this wasn't a fucking, you know, armed militia looking for a fucking revolution, but you're almost like, oh man, what if it was?
I mean, if it was, it seems like, oh my God, they could really do some damage.
Like this, they could really get in there and just fucking take it easily.
And to think that after all, you know, like since, just think since 9-11, forget even before then when this was already true, but the incredible like national security apparatus, the hundreds of billions of dollars, I mean, over the years, trillions of dollars that's spent on what is known as defense for the United States federal government.
I mean, you know, it's, it's literally, I mean, you know, what is it, like $700 billion a year, $700 in change, billion dollars a year, really like a trillion dollars a year total, if you, if you look at all of it.
And they still just literally just a group of unarmed people just stormed their way in and could be taken selfies in Nancy Pelosi's office.
And it's, it's surreal to see.
And perhaps there's some value in everybody they're seeing that like it uh um just how unbelievably incompetent the the whole thing is.
You're like, yeah, these guys can't even protect their own state, you know, building.
Condemning Your Own Side00:16:54
They can't fucking distribute, you know, stimulus checks.
They can't distribute a vaccine.
These guys can't do anything.
And maybe that could they wanted it.
I'm just going to throw the conspiracy out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, look, I mean, that is, you know, otherwise, this is like if you came across a mansion with your friends and you were debating whether or not to rob and you're like, oh, look, the door's open.
You can just walk right into this place.
Might as well grab some shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I mean, that's that, that's definitely uh the other interesting thing to see.
Here's how I mean, governments actually get toppled.
Here's the way it happens.
You got incidents like this.
People see it on TV and go, Oh shit, it's going down.
They show up.
Someone's got to call in the military because there's enough people there.
And the military goes, Hey, we're not siding with the government.
Now, this does not seem to be escalating in that way, but this is the way that shit gets kicked off.
Now, here's my question for you: I don't have uh television here, I get my news online, and I was finding the only way to kind of really see what was going on was basically Twitter coverage.
Didn't seem like because they were they were downplaying the size of the actual amount of people that showed up in Washington.
Now they seem to be telling me that there's curfew and everything's under control, but I seem to be seeing random footage online that doesn't look like anything's under control whatsoever.
So, I'm curious what you're thinking of, like the general coverage and if they're trying to, I guess, downplay chaos.
Oh, well, the coverage basically at this point, from what I've seen, is like you know, these are neo-Nazi terrorists, and Trump has instigated this.
And by him, you know, saying that the election was stolen, of course, it would lead to this.
And it's look, it's just like the thing is, and this is why it's like a fucking bad idea.
It's not that I'm not sympathetic.
Obviously, everybody listening to this who knows me, you know, it's not that I'm not sympathetic to people who fucking hate the government, feel like they're being screwed out of this shit.
It's just like this is a rigged game, and now you've played into their hands where this will be easy now to demonize this group of people.
So, that's what they're doing, that's what they're in the business of doing.
By the way, Twitter has, and this is something that I kind of predicted right.
They've suspended Donald Trump's Twitter account and said that he will be banned off Twitter, even though Donald Trump was asking his people to be peaceful and respect, you know, that they fucking still suspended him and banned him off there.
But of course, also because he's Donald Trump, he'll, you know, he's like, everyone should be peaceful, but they stole the election, they stole it big time.
We won huge, and you know, so he won't let go of that.
Um, but whatever, but you know, so this is the perfect narrative.
There's been there's talk about bringing up more uh articles of impeachment, Mike Pence invoking the 25th Amendment.
By the way, Pence and Trump had a big split today, which is that's a whole nother interesting thing.
Maybe we'll talk about that for a couple minutes, but I just want to stay on this stuff first.
Um, I guess let's let's talk about some of the hypocrisy.
Can I say one more auditory?
Oh, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
It's I thought it was pretty cool that even though they stormed the building, it's they didn't go like high school flipping over desks, just pulling down paintings.
It seemed like they were just thrilled enough to be like, Hey, we're inside of here.
Oh, dude, it was not, but that's it was so weird.
I saw like live, you know, news coverage.
Like, fucking um, I think uh, PBS had like a journalist in there at one point, and they're and she's walking around and she's like showing the people, and there's like people walking around, like, dude.
I've been inside your first quote, like, what is this?
This paintings are really nice.
Have you ever been inside the Capitol building?
I think when I was a little kid, I was inside of it once, it's beautiful.
They, I don't know, they had one artist who did like most of the work, it's pretty incredible.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Well, I guess the guy was admiring the work, but the other thing, dude, is like people are like taking this is the thing.
Like, I almost feel like sometimes, look, I'm not even look, I'm not against a revolution, but if you're gonna do the revolution, you you better be prepared to fucking you know for what you're doing here.
And I see these people like taking like selfies and posting them online, like with no mask on or anything, just posting their face.
And you're like, dude, I mean, you're gonna get like, you're gonna be looking at a decade in prison.
Do you think they're gonna come out of all this?
Do you think after the fact they're going to start because that's what I was saying about all the protests thus far is that it's odd to me that they're not using using facial facial recognition technology to track these people down on the crimes that they've done.
In this case, no one's wearing masks.
So, and there's a lot of footage of people just kind of walking around inside the Capitol building.
Do you think after the fact they're like over the next couple of months, they're going to be rounding these people up?
Yes, I think this is different.
And I think they will.
This is government protecting government.
This is, you started fucking with the people that actually matter from their perspective.
And I think that, you know, it's, it's like, dude, they, you could see it also just in the corporate press.
It's like the same way.
It's like, no, this really matters.
And this is what's so frustrating about fucking like, you know, a lot of, you know, the Beltway libertarian types and the Libertarian Party or whoever runs the fucking Twitter handle in them.
Oh, they can't wait to come out and condemn this.
This is really fucking bad.
And that's the whole corporate press attitude.
It's like, well, now you're scaring politicians.
Like, see, this is like really serious.
I mean, it's sure all summer long when you're just terrorizing someone who owns a diner.
You know, that is what it is.
It's the excesses.
You know, the riots are the voice of the marginalized and all this stuff.
Oh, oh, are there some quotes from this summer that are just lovely to throw back in people's faces?
But now you broke into a state building.
You know, this is what will condemn it.
The fucking libertarian part.
Everyone just has to do, I got pushed by the mob defense.
I had no interest in going in.
It was just the mob behind me that pushed me into the building.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, that's, we'll, we'll see.
And then once I was inside, I was just looking for the exit.
It's complicated.
So, so by the way, the Libertarian Party Twitter account, right?
I don't know if you remember this from us talking about it this summer, but they literally had nothing to say about the rioting, the violence, the looting, any of that.
They one time they condemned it.
And it was after I pushed them to do it.
It was like after seven back and forth tweets between me and the Libertarian Party, I finally got them to condemn it.
And what they said was, they said, well, it goes without saying, yeah, of course, we're against looting and violence.
So when it was that, it went without saying months long, the longest sustained riots lifetime.
After months and months, the whole summer long, they finally said, well, yes, okay, we're against that.
But it goes without saying only when I pushed them to say that.
By the way, they've since unfollowed me on Twitter, the Libertarian Party.
You'd think, I mean, I'm one of, if not the biggest recruiter in the party, you'd think maybe they'd want to follow me.
I mean, I'd want to follow the guy who was taking over my party, but they unfollowed me for that.
Whatever.
They can't follow Jewish Nazis.
That's not what the Libertarian Party is about.
Yeah, not yet.
But it was a half hour, a half hour into this before they tweet out.
They said, this is not patriotism.
This is not protesting.
This is reprehensible violence and aggression and needs to stop now.
We hope safety for all those who work in the Capitol.
So do you just like, it's like, so the Libertarian Party can't stand up for fucking innocent civilians who are being terrorized, but they fucking the second they get the chance, they'll stand up for all those who work in the Capitol.
So, you know, it's like, you know, fucking unlike these fucking crazy Black Lives Matter and Antifa groups, they attacked the empire.
They attacked the fucking center of the empire.
And the Libertarian Party is going to defend that shit.
It's just like, oh, God, it's sickening to fucking see.
It's sickening.
I mean, like, I'm not defending either, but the hypocrisy is just outrageous.
And it's funny because some of these people want to accuse me of hypocrisy, but it's like, I don't know.
I'd say the same thing if they were doing the same thing that the groups I was fucking criticizing were doing, but they're not.
That's not the same thing.
It's not the same thing to storm the Capitol building as it is to just terrorize random people.
And I don't care what your fucking gripe is.
This is what I said all summer long, and I'll keep saying it.
I don't care what your grievance is.
I don't care how legitimate it is.
You don't have the right to just go around victimizing random, innocent people who had nothing to do with it.
It's a little bit of a different thing to bring the fight to the government.
Again, not advocating it, but I feel differently about that than I do about attacking random people.
And the idea that I have to fucking explain that to fucking anybody.
It's like the fact that you have left-wing violence that's aimed at random people, and the Libertarian Party can't condemn that.
But then you have right-wing violence aimed directly at the state, at the empire, but that gets condemned swiftly, immediately.
I mean, that's like, come, come the fuck on, man.
It's just, it's just insane.
I think it's interesting that both sides are like whiny kids at this point.
Like, how come they don't get in trouble for this?
And both sides feel like the other side's not getting in trouble, which is bringing back to that initial point where I said, we need to know, hey, is Donald Trump lying?
We also need fucking clear-cut rules on if you're destroying property, you're in trouble.
Like, it just, you just need actual enforcements that otherwise just everyone, we're living in a whiny bitch land.
Everyone's like, well, that is true.
You know, there's no question that is true.
But the, you know, the truth is that it's like you hear, it's almost like we're living in two different realities, which is like, you know, the case with a lot of this shit, and maybe even three or four or five different realities, because I think we're living in a different reality than all both sides.
But it is interesting to see how people can so blatantly look at one event and then the other and have a completely different opinion when it's their side.
So, for example, how do you think the corporate press or the Libertarian Party, you know, high, high-ranking people or whatever, the, you know, the people who run the Twitter and the fucking, you know, chair and all that shit, how do you think they would feel when someone said this today about the protest?
They said, the whole point of protesting is to make people uncomfortable.
Activists take that discomfort with the status quo and advocate for concrete policy changes.
Popular support often starts small and grows.
To folks who complain about protest demands making others uncomfortable, that's the point.
Yeah, no, that was AOC, but she said that this summer about the riots.
Now, imagine someone.
Now, here's the fucking thing, right?
You have all, and this is the dynamic always, right?
All of these fucking Republicans, everybody who wants to be respectable, the Libertarian Party included, they rush to condemn this.
They can't get out.
I mean, the Libertarian Party is like tripping over itself to fucking condemn these people again for violating the Capitol building, you know, for desecrating Congress.
So they're all tripping over each other to condemn it.
Oh, this is horrible.
See, I'm not one of the bad guys.
I'm not one of the bad guys.
But the left, they don't play by those same rules.
Like when the left, when the leftists are violent in the streets, they excuse it.
They go on there.
See, they have, this is part of the reason why they win, okay?
Is because they don't piss off their radicals.
They don't throw them under the bus.
They don't go, hey, oh my God, it was so horrible that these seven cities were burning last night.
They go, no, police brutality is horrible.
Racism is horrible.
This is the voice of the disenfranchiser, yada, yada, whatever she just said.
Protesting is supposed to make people uncomfortable and all this shit.
They defend their fucking people and they get them in line to support them.
Whereas the fucking people on the right rush.
They just have this crazy rush to fucking, you know, condemn all of this shit.
And then they're still cast as the fucking villains.
It's not as if this buys them any favor from the corporate press or from academia or politicians or anything like that.
They're still cast as the fucking villains.
It's just like, oh, you know, okay.
So now they fucking lose all of their radical energy and they still get nothing for it.
It's really, it's fucking incredible.
It's fucking incredible that people are so quick to condemn their own side for nothing.
It's, it's, you know, anyway.
Okay.
What else did I want to talk about?
Oh, there was one thing.
A bunch of people on Twitter were giving me shit.
So maybe I'll just fucking address that because fucking, you know, so I had a tweet that I put out in.
Can we talk about to what extent you think this is going to escalate?
Because this is just kind of, in some ways, this is round one.
These are just the people that were showing up, I guess, to protest the confirmation, but there's no reason to think that this should be the last protest.
Well, or that other people might go, oh, fuck, look, it's going down.
Let's let's go to Washington.
Or fuck, fuck Washington.
We're Texas.
We're seceding.
I'm just wondering because do you think there's any chance that the spark's just been ignited and people are going to ramp up or there's going to be a show of force and this is just going to be squashed?
I don't, I don't think this is going to be the spark.
I think this will be squashed and they won't let this fucking this go on for if Trump actually stood up and said, fuck the government, Texas, I'm coming over and we're succeeding, then they would do it.
But otherwise, this is like a movement without a leader if Trump's being like, all right.
I'll tell you, man.
And I see, I'm literally just like looking through the chat and I see it's fucking, you know, I know I piss some people off.
It's funny because like at the beginning, like, you know, I'm like, oh, this was, this was awful.
And people are like, oh, you're, you know, you're apathetic or you're this or that or whatever.
And then when I'm attacking the other side, some of the people like that.
And then half the, you know, look, man, I'm just going to fucking give you the truth as I see it.
This is what I fucking do, right?
But here's the truth, right?
I wish I could almost be more on board with this.
It just sucks that you're doing it for Trump.
You know, you're standing up for this guy who would never do the same for fucking you.
He doesn't care about you.
This guy, I mean, I know.
And there's no values.
No, it's not like his value is, hey, we're not going to inflate anymore.
We're not going to have debt or we're going to no, fucking go ahead, risk your life, get this fucking woman killed, get some fucking, you know, go to jail for three years, get some fucking permanent terrorist charge on your record, get the entire right wing demonized, you know, have this whole fucking show for what?
What do you protect?
So, so Donald Trump can get in there and we make sure that the fucking embassy stays in fucking Jerusalem instead of Tel Aviv.
That's who fucking won from this show.
Nothing.
He didn't do anything for you.
He doesn't care about you.
All this guy cares about, dude, is that he didn't lose.
He won.
I'm not the loser.
I'm the winner.
Joe Biden's the loser.
I'm the winner.
We had huge crowds, huge crowds.
Like, that's who you're doing this for.
So it's just like, I understand.
I understand being frustrated by the whole fucking system and all of that.
But like, I'm sorry.
Like, this guy just is not what you're pretending he is.
Also, to your point that Trump doesn't care about you, if he did, he might like, if I was Trump and maybe he cared, he'd go, listen, I'm actually going to concede this thing.
And in return, you're not going to prosecute anyone that stormed the Capitol.
I'm going to tell them to stand back.
And then he gets up and he goes, listen, democracy is important.
We put up the fight that we could.
I know I was cheated.
You know, I was cheated.
Be back in four years, but let's not get violent and they're gonna not prosecute.
But he's not gonna do that because he doesn't give a no, he doesn't.
That's the thing.
Trump's not going to war for you.
Look, dude, if Trump could work out a deal where every one of these fucking people did life in prison, but he gets to go out as a winner, he'd make that deal in a fucking second.
He's not sacrificing anything for fucking these people.
He's also like, you know, I mean, again, it's like I do have some sympathy for the Trump voters who have been fucking demonized, assaulted for wearing a MAGA hat, you know, like called racist for not supporting riots, like all of this fucking shit, and just, you know, completely fucked over by the government in a million other ways.
But I'm just saying, I don't think fucking he's, I don't think he's the guy.
I don't think he gives a shit about you.
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So luckily, you know, the government's probably not going to have to punish any of these people because there's a deadly pandemic.
And if you don't wear a mask, you'll get it.
So nature's going to get them anyways.
They were in closed quarters, storming buildings, breathing on each other.
I feel bad for them.
They're going to get a virus.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You might be right.
Okay.
So I wanted to bring this up because people, a lot of people, a few people from the Cato Institute and a few other libertarians have been pouncing.
Let me use the corporate press language.
They've been pouncing on this tweet that I put up and calling me out for it.
So I'll, you know, I have a few people told me I should delete the tweet.
And I was like, no, I'm not going to fucking delete it.
I said it.
I said it at the time and I meant it.
And, you know, okay, if I was partially wrong, then fine.
But so I tweeted out on the 1st of November, a week before election day.
I said, with all of this talk about riots and violence next week, this is only an issue if Trump wins, right?
Does anyone actually believe that if Biden wins, right-wingers will be rioting in the streets?
So, okay.
I mean, I guess I could hide behind the fact that I was asking a question, but you know, obviously I was kind of making a point about that.
But I don't know.
It's like, you know, all these people like trying to throw this in my face.
What I was obviously referring to at the time was that all of these businesses in Washington, in Washington, D.C., were boarding up.
Do you remember this, Rob?
They were all like boarding up their storefronts.
Puerto Rican parade.
Yeah.
Right before, right before election day.
And I was just making the point that this is obviously in anticipation of if Donald Trump wins, there's going to be mass riots that are going to be fucking destroying all of these fucking businesses.
And I'm sorry.
I was right about that.
That's what they were concerned about.
That's what they thought.
Now, I'm not saying there haven't been protests or a few examples of violence, but it's been nothing like the type of rioting that we were talking about if Donald Trump had gotten re-elected and won.
So I don't know.
You can keep throwing this at me.
I just don't think it's something that I was really that wrong about.
I mean, yes, certainly.
If you're asking me if I predicted that the Capitol building was going to be occupied by Trump protesters, yeah, I didn't see that coming.
I guess if you did see that coming, you could give me some shit about this, but I just don't, I don't know.
I don't think it was anything like that was that big of a blunder.
I think pretty much everybody knows what I was referring to.
And I think the spirit of what I said was right.
But I will certainly admit that, yeah, I was, I didn't see this one.
I didn't see what happened today coming.
All right.
What else?
Any other thoughts, Rob?
No, I'm just really curious to see how this plays out.
If it leads to an escalation of further protests, if maybe some concessions are made to try and bring in the, you know, the disenfranchised members of the Republican Party, or if we see major, you know, a real crushing of social media and going after these people and ramping up of the police state and making sure that all senators are highly secured and we're headed towards that thing, but who knows how it will play out.
But fucking awesome, dude.
I had a lot of fun watching this shit today.
I was tweeting out pictures of all the stuff that was going on.
Talk about an exciting day.
Yeah, it was, it was really something to watch.
You were like, wow.
I mean, that is not something that I've ever seen before.
And, you know, I just, it was exciting, even though it was a fucked up thing.
There's, it was definitely somewhat exciting to watch.
They need better plans, though, because once they took the building, they're just walking around like, what are we supposed to do now?
Like, they should have brought like, I don't know, barbecues and fucking threw a party, just handed some burgers to the cops or just done something.
You know, it was a little bit weird once they got in there.
Like, what am I supposed to do?
Take a dump and it does seem like they had no fucking real plan of what to do.
I saw some people in the chat.
I've just been scrolling through the chat in the last minute, and some people are saying they think they were agent provocateurs who were in the crowd who did this.
You kind of, you know, got hinted at that earlier or said that earlier.
You know, it's possible.
Who the fuck knows?
But I don't, you know, if I don't have evidence of that, it also seems quite possible that it was just, it was just some Trump supporters who were fucking, you know, a worked up fucking mob.
But yeah, I think, I think they really didn't have a plan.
And, you know, again, like I was saying, I just think it's here's what's next.
They kill Trump.
They say Iran did it.
And then they all start talking about how you're not allowed to kill our presidents and we go to war with Iran.
Yeah, well, I doubt they're going to, I doubt they're going to get a war in Iran out of this, but I do think that they're going to say Iran killed him.
They're going to pretend like it was an Iran Iranian assassination.
Yeah, I doubt it, but I think that this will, ultimately, I think this will hurt Trump.
I think it will hurt.
I think it will peel off not a ton, but a little bit of conservative support for the Trump protests and the stop the scene.
Trump also looks like a fucking pussy.
He can't show up at the next rally and be like, we're going to fucking do something.
Cause they're going to be like, well, we showed up to do something and you told us to stop.
So well, did you see the thing that maybe we'll just talk about that for a quick minute before we get out of here?
But did you see before this happened earlier today that, you know, Pence put out that letter basically saying that he doesn't have the authority to stop the election from going forward.
And then Trump was like shitting on Pence, which is so weird.
For some reason, that's even weirder than all of the shit of him going out like this.
Like he is just going out like fucking crazy.
Pence had his back like the entire time.
And for, you know, as crazy as Trump's been, Pence has been out there for the most part being like, he's the president.
And so I support him.
So this was Trump's Hail Mary where all these, I mean, on paper, from what I understand, you've got a procedure here where people can say that they're not allowing the delegates from, you know, from whatever state.
But I saw Thomas Massey say the numbers don't add up and there wasn't actually a way to refute this.
But in some way, I think it comes down to Biden.
I mean, Pence gets to make the call.
And so he was just saying, yeah, I'm not going to decide against the voters.
So this is the first time that Pence was just like, no, Trump's fucked.
Like, I'm done with Trump.
And that's because he knows that it's over and they're on the way out.
So, you know, he just, he just made his bed that he's no longer on Team Trump.
He's in team government.
And as Biden comes in, I'm sure Pence is going to get his payday and, you know, some sort of a war contract or however these guys make their money.
I'll get a better book deal.
Well, you know, it's like, if, you know, your concern is, again, this is the thing with fucking Trump.
It's like, if your whole thing is draining the swamp, then don't put all these fucking swamp creatures around you.
I don't know.
I'm, I'm sick and tired of fucking, you know, I'm out of any sympathy for Donald Trump for, you know, the swamp sabotaging him when they're people that he picked.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's it's one thing when it's like the fucking CIA or the FBI or some shit like that, but it's like, yeah, you know what?
Like when John Bolton undermines your North Korea peace deal, that's on you because you made John Bolton the national security advisor.
He shouldn't have been at that table to begin with.
And, you know, I've never liked Pence and always felt that he was a fucking just kind of typical shitty establishment Republican.
So McConnell also didn't get his back.
McConnell was the one who started it off with, hey, guys, we had a process here.
You were able to bring your court cases.
You brought your court cases.
Your own judges didn't approve this.
So there's no voter fraud.
Let's move on with our lives.
Yeah.
Let me here.
Let me check the chat real quick.
Maybe answer a couple of questions.
Take a couple comments.
No, you're gay.
There you go.
Rob's just starting with a preemptive.
Pardon Assaj, Snowden, Ross.
Yeah, don't hold your fucking breath.
Don't, I'm, I'm done counting on fucking, you know, fucking Trump to do anything.
Weakest boogaloo ever.
Yeah, maybe.
That's because the fucking, you know, none of these people are actually ready for a fucking civil war.
And I'm not saying that in a condescending way.
Like, I'm not either.
But, you know, no one here is really talking about a fucking, I mean, maybe they're talking about it, but they're not fucking leading any revolution or something like that.
I guess Dave is running for the leader of the Women's Libertarian Party.
Well, that's where the women are.
So fuck yeah.
Get me in.
Women's Women's Libertarian Party.
What are there?
Like fucking six of us?
All right.
They put out.
That's all you need.
Let me see.
Paul Massey, 2024.
Hmm.
Might be an interesting ticket.
Do you think Trump supporters are getting red-pilled against the cops?
Yes.
That is going on with a whole lot of them.
And that, you know, I talked about this with Michael Malice on his podcast the other day.
I'm not sure if that's up yet, but that might be out.
I'm talking about that on today's episode also.
We're still putting out today's, right?
Yeah, we're going to put this out all as one.
I think this will be the first part of it.
And then what we recorded earlier will be the second part.
So it'll be a nice long episode tomorrow for people who didn't listen to this.
And if you're just listening to this live, we did another, you know, hour or so earlier today on the Senate elections and shit.
So, all right, hold on.
Let me say, fucking Dave, the government is illegitimate.
Also, Dave, we should respect government property.
I don't know what the fuck you got that from.
I'm not saying you should respect government property.
That was kind of my whole fucking point: I'm not going to stand up and defend government property.
I'm just saying that if you're just going to fucking rush government property, like if just you and your buddy are going to go try to overtake a police station, it's probably a bad move and you're probably going to get you and your buddy killed.
It's not about respect for the property.
I'm just saying be smart if you're going to fucking do it.
Tell the Mises caucus to unban your followers.
Well, I don't know what you did to get banned, but I will try.
Keith Knight in the chat.
What's up, Keith?
I got to have him back on the show sometime soon.
Love that guy.
But right as I looked at your comment, like 50 more comments came up and I lost it.
So I love you, Keith.
But I'm sorry.
You just lost your comment.
But I'll get you back on the show sometime soon if you're interested, brother.
Do you think the DC riots are over or more action tonight?
That's an interesting question.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Are there still people like protesting down there right now?
I'd have to check that out.
Dave is the man.
That's an excellent comment.
Can I just say, Alex, that was an excellent comment.
I am the man.
Never thought about it like that before.
How do you rate the memes from this event?
I really haven't seen that many.
Sheriff, tweet some good ones at me if you got some.
Tell Malice to unblock me.
I could, but it won't do any good.
Trust me, I can't get you unblocked from Michael Malice.
That's just out there to everybody.
I can't, I just can't help with that.
If Michael Malice has blocked you, he's not going to unblock you.
Or at least not because I told, not because I tell him to.
When are you going on Tim Pool?
When Tim invites me on, I'm happy to fucking do it.
Let me see what else you got.
All right.
Do you think, holy shit, it's too many fucking, I hate trying to read off this fucking YouTube chat because they just go so quickly.
Just ask them nicely to be one at a time.
No, listen.
Do you think this fuels sentiments and further support for balkanization?
Yeah, probably, right?
I mean, yeah, this is there.
There certainly is.
We are coming apart as a nation.
And there's no question about that.
And there's no question that, you know, this was a point that I made, you know, several times on a few of these podcasts that it's like, this is a different thing.
This, this Trump base right now, this is a different thing than even the Democrats or anything like that.
It's not like they don't like the president, but they like the whole rest of the government.
They don't, they're against it all.
They've been completely, you know, turned off to the whole fucking thing.
You should get actual Justice Warrior on one time.
Yeah, I know who that guy is.
I've seen a couple of his YouTube videos.
Yeah, they were good.
I don't know him.
I don't have like a fucking connect for him, but I did.
I have watched a couple of his videos that I thought were very good.
So yeah, sure, I'd be down to talk with that guy.
Dave, Nick Fuentes was in the Capitol.
Could you see him actually going to jail for trespass?
Crazy.
Was he in?
Was he like inside the fucking Capitol?
That's not good if he was.
Shit, that's not good if he was.
Is that true?
Can anyone confirm that?
Was he actually in the building?
Because if he was in the fucking building, he was pushed inside.
I told you.
People from the back, I don't know anything about it.
I hope that's outside.
Someone's saying now.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
If he was outside, that's fine.
And if he was inside, you know, you got to be careful, a guy like that, because they might try to make a fucking example out of that guy.
Nick Fuentes was not in the building.
Okay.
A whole bunch of people are saying now that he wasn't in the building.
Okay.
Do we care?
I mean, if you want to, I don't know who he is.
I know you've said the name.
Yeah.
No, he's a guy I've had on the podcast a couple of times.
Fake news.
Nick Fuentez did not get arrested.
Okay.
He was outside.
Like a whole bunch of people are saying he was outside now.
Okay.
No, I just didn't.
I didn't know about that.
And I saw one person outside.
He was a pussy.
He loves the protest.
As long as he was outside, he'll be fine.
But if you're inside that fucking building and you're somebody who's known, and if it particularly, if they wanted to, you know, they wanted to make an example out of you.
So you got to be careful with that shit.
Cause I don't know.
But my guess is like there's probably some crazy, some fucking crazy charges they could fucking throw at you.
So I don't know.
Anyway, but everyone's saying he was outside the building.
So that's fine.
Okay.
I get it.
He was now just a million people.
He was outside.
He was outside.
I know.
I know.
I understand.
I'm sorry.
I just saw one person fucking commented.
Fucking Nick Fuentes is here.
I just go, he's right behind you.
All right.
Will fifth column have you?
Oh, the podcast, fifth column.
I don't know.
You know, I think they invited me on once and I had to cancel.
And then they just never invited me on again.
So no super chats, leaving money on the table.
Well, you know what it is?
I mean, I could do it.
I just feel like fucking, I feel like if I, if I monetize this fucking channel, I'm just going to get banned real quick.
That's kind of how I've always felt.
So if I fucking, I don't want to monetize the channel and then just fucking lose it.
I'd rather just have a YouTube channel.
And I feel like they are.
They're just waiting for you to go.
Oh, he tried to, he took, he took a couple bucks.
Boom.
You know, I've said a lot of uh words that uh you know, I shouldn't.
Monetizing The Channel Risks Bans00:04:37
I said, Do you still talk to Owen Benjamin?
I haven't talked to Owen in a little while, but I've it was probably a couple months ago last time.
He's the worst person to lose contact with the words going to shit, and he's got his own farm with Jason.
I love Owen, he's you know, owns owns my brother.
I'll always love that guy.
Uh, all right, Dave's Pimple 2024.
Oh, dude, yeah, where's your pimple?
I don't even see where's my pink pimple.
You know, I got a few.
What are you gonna do?
All right, all right, I'll take like one or two more questions and then we're gonna wrap this up and uh you know move on.
All right, don't monetize, monopolize.
There you go, that's some woke shit right there.
Um, pretty sure Dave identifies as an anarchist.
That is correct.
Uh, have Camille Foster on?
Sure, absolutely.
I was supposed to have him on a while back.
We went back and forth, messaged, and he's down to do it.
So, yeah, I'd love to.
Um, what do we got?
Uh, Hotep Jesus podcast.
Fuck yeah, I'd love to do a podcast with Hotep with Hotep Jesus, absolutely.
Uh, why does my shoulder hurt?
My shoulder hurts because I've been fucking playing with that Oculus.
Well, okay, fair enough, but mainly because of that Oculus boxing game.
Uh, okay, all right, let's do it.
Let's let's wrap it up there.
Crazy fucking day.
Is there anything that we missed that I should have goddamn said?
I don't know.
Um, yeah, I think we covered all of it.
I'm sure there's a lot of other fucking hypocrisy out there that we could have uh pointed to, but uh, yeah, someone uh, someone just wrote Tom Woods, Tom Woods.
He's the fucking man.
That's the fucking goat right there.
All right, thanks for listening, everybody.
We'll uh uh put this out as uh part of our episode from today, and then we got a whole nother regular episode, so it'll be a nice long one that'll be out tomorrow.
You have to do uh like a phony segue so that people know what the second half is.
This goes, yeah, okay, so that was really great conversation.
So, now let's talk about other stuff.
Was that good?
Was that good enough?
Yeah, whatever, we don't need a good transition, it'll just fucking cut in.
Hey, man, this is really interesting.
So, let's talk for an hour about other unrelated things now.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am the libertarian Tupac, he is the king of the cocks, Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
What is up, my brother?
Nothing much, man.
Just Wednesday getting ready for Friday, cooking through the week, second episode of the new year.
Oh, phone it in Wednesday.
Here we go.
Um, so by the way, dude, I fucking so I got in uh an Oculus, oh, Oculus 2.
Um, by the way, I don't, I'm not like a big video game guy.
I mean, I was like when I was a kid, I played video games all the time.
That was like the thing to do, but I don't really play a lot of video games.
Um, but so yokratum.com, shout out to yokratom.com.
They sent me an Oculus as a Christmas gift, I suppose, which was awesome.
Thank you very much to yokratom.com.
They just got a free little uh plug in here.
All you other sponsors, step it up.
That's the bar now, okay?
That's the bar that you guys need to meet to keep me happy with you.
I'm kidding.
I love all of our sponsors, but I particularly love yokratum.com right now.
And that thing, dude, I got the boxing game, and it's just it.
You're just boxing, dude.
I am fucking the thrill of the fight.
Oh, it's so much fun.
It's so good.
It's so much fun.
I enjoyed it so much.
I'm sitting there just, I mean, you look like an idiot when you have this thing.
Like, if you're in your own little world, but to my wife looking at me, I just, she's like, I'm married to a child.
I don't know what's happening.
But, you know, the baby's asleep.
I'm sitting there.
I'm boxing it up.
I went like eight rounds.
I mean, it's just so much fun.
And it's unlike any other video game experience because by the eighth round, I'm actually like this dude's coming at me and my arms are dead.
And I'm like, holy shit.
Like, I have not, I'm not in shape to be boxing.
Although I have a feeling, Rob, I will be shortly.
This is, it's just so much fun.
I was just knocking guys out left and right.
Like my first three rounds, I finished every fight in the first round, just on fire.
Democrats Taking Over Control00:15:06
And it starts getting a little harder and a little slower.
And today, dude, oh my God, my arms are shot.
I feel like I was really in a fist fight yesterday, short of being punched in the face.
You're actually making.
You're making me feel worse about myself because I've been playing that game winning fights, feeling good, but never by knockout.
And I'm always tired around too.
So.
Oh, I've dropped fucking.
You gotta, it's you really, you gotta set them up with body work and then come hard upstairs.
That's the fucking move.
Like pat, pat, pat to the body and then hard, hard shots upstairs takes them, takes them right out.
But it's amazing.
It's such a weird feeling.
It's a bit, you know, you knock a guy out and then you look over the corner and like your coach is right there and you're like, yeah, bro, we did it.
We did it together, me and you.
Anyway, thanks to Yo Kratom.
That was an awesome Christmas gift.
So speaking of fights, Senate runoff elections.
That was the weakest transition in the history of the world, but you know what?
We'll go with it.
So pretty big developments in the Georgia Senate runoff elections.
Looking good for the Democrats.
The Democrats have won one of the races and they look like they're going to get the second one as well.
The second one is not over yet, has not been called.
Warnock, he won.
That's been called.
Osoph is up, but it's not over yet.
That's a huge deal, what happens in this election?
Because as it sits right now, there are 50 Republicans in the Senate, 49 Democrats.
So if what looks like is going to happen happens, we're going to have a tie, a split Senate, 50-50, with Kamala Harris as the vice president, who is essentially the tiebreaker.
So basically, in effect, you have a Democrat-controlled Senate and a Democrat-controlled Congress, and the Democrats have the executive branch.
So you've got Democrat control all around.
And this is going to, this will have a big impact on politics in the next two years in America.
This is Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell, and I guess Chuck Schumer as the Senate majority leader, if this is how it goes down.
And of course, you know, Kamala Harris can be the tiebreaker and she's going to side with the Democrats, obviously.
So this is a big deal.
This is going to shape American politics for the next couple of years.
There's a lot to talk about with this stuff.
There's certainly like upon first glance, there's a lot of negative to see in the Democrats controlling all of the government.
And I think off the bat, you and I have to make it clear that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are both Jews, but we're different kinds of Jews.
So as you get all this shame, guilt, and spending and all this nonsense going on, we're not on their team, Jew.
We're different, we're a different breed.
Yes.
We were strongly considering naming the podcast different kind of Jews.
So just when you come, When they ruin society and you come to get all of us, just remember who was podcasting on your side the whole time.
We need whoever the next Hitler is to make some sort of a dis like distinction between, you know, we need like a new Jew categories so we can somehow be outside the Schumer Pelosi camp.
Do you remember in a Family Guy, there was one episode where they time travel back to Nazi Germany and these Nazis round them up and they're like, get the Jew.
And Stewie goes, oh boy, when your PR department hears about that.
He goes, wait till we talk to human resources or something like this.
I didn't see that, but that's great.
I love the idea of just putting like political correctness on Adolf Hitler.
Like when he was just there and he's like, and someone's like, so you hate the Jews?
And he's like, oh, no, no, not all of the Jews.
There's some very good ones.
Have you listened to these podcasters?
Yeah, I'll be honest.
He probably wouldn't like us too much either.
But look.
No, we need a final solution, but for those Jews.
Robbie, I do not want to be on record agreeing with you.
So I'm just going to wink.
So, but in all seriousness, I do think that there is almost an opportunity to take the black pill with the Democrats taking over control of the government and feel like everything is fucked.
But there's also something that I actually think might be a silver lining about all of this.
So I'm going to encourage people not to be depressed about this turn of events.
I think that there's, well, there are, there's bad.
I'm not denying that.
But there might be a silver lining.
There might be a case for optimism and some potential hope to come out of this situation.
So the Democrats are going to control all three branches.
Sorry, not all three branches, but they're going to control the House, the Senate, and the presidency.
They don't control the Supreme Court.
So that is, you know, there is something there, right?
It's, there's some degree of divided government.
But I certainly understand the argument that a lot of people will make that divided government is preferable to one party, either party having both the House, the Senate, and the presidency.
And that's there's a strong case to be made that historically the worst things happen when one party has the Congress and the White House.
And that's, you know, there's the Republicans held the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office in the beginning of George W. Bush's presidency.
That didn't work out very well.
In the beginning of Obama's presidency, that didn't work out very well.
And in the beginning of Trump's presidency, and that didn't work out very well either.
So there is a case that you don't want, you know, one party control.
There's also a case that the Democrats are really the party you don't want to be controlling the government.
So obviously, on its face, that looks bad.
And this is now, you know, assuming that they do get control of the Senate, this is much easier for Joe Biden to push his agenda, whatever that might be.
I'm not sure Joe Biden has any idea what his agenda is, but whenever he's told what his agenda is, this will make it a little bit easier for him to push it.
But I'm looking at things in the bigger picture and I'm saying, you know what?
The Republicans had control of the entire government for the first two years of Trump's presidency.
And what do we have to show for that?
I mean, like literally nothing.
I mean, okay, they got some tax cuts through.
I shouldn't say nothing.
They got some tax cuts through, but it's not as if anything is going to be gained politically by keeping the Democrats out.
The Republicans are just as bad, or if not just as bad, damn near close.
And so now the Democrats come in and they get to have their control.
But to me, what I like about the situation, okay, there's a couple of things that I think are positive.
Number one, this is now the Democrats mess.
And they are going to own it.
And to me, the dynamic between the Democrats and the Republicans in general in American politics is like, well, it's like professional wrestling.
I mean, in many ways, it's exactly like professional wrestling.
It is, I know Jesse Ventura made this point years ago that because he was a professional wrestler who was then a governor.
And he said politics is just like professional wrestling.
It's like the same thing.
It's like in front of the cameras.
It's like, I'm going to beat my opponent and I hate my opponent and you're so awful and we're going to meet in the ring and we're going to do.
And then when the cameras are off, they're going out to dinner together.
They're friendly.
They basically agree on everything.
All of this shit is just for show.
As Michael Malice said, they fight when the cameras are on and they laugh at you behind your back.
That's kind of the role of politicians.
It's all theater.
It's all theater to convince you that the state is not what it is.
That's basically the idea.
They convince you that you have this choice and you have these two different teams and there's this huge fight going on.
Meanwhile, both parties support the military industrial complex, support the banking industrial complex, support all types of crony capitalists, lobbyists, all this shit.
It's just a game.
In general, the Republicans are the heel and the Democrats are the babyface.
That's kind of the game.
The Republicans are there to be the bad guy, heartless character.
And the Democrats are there to be the good guy kind of, you know, where we care more.
And so, of course, the Republicans own more of the liberty talking points.
They tell you they're for small government and they're there to lose when they tell you they're for small government.
That's kind of the point of the whole thing.
Now you have a situation where we're coming off 2020, just an incredibly disastrous year for the country.
And the Democrats now own the mess.
They're going to own the ensuing fallout from all of this.
And I don't think that's necessarily the worst thing.
Like, okay, let them try to get their agenda through.
What am I supposed to be scared of in the Democratic agenda?
Is it going to be a big government agenda?
What, unlike 2020?
Unlike when we had divided government, we might get big government now.
Oh my God, what are they going to do?
How much are they going to spend?
Was having Trump in there or having the Republicans control the Senate?
We're coming off the year where they've spent more than any other government has ever spent.
What are they going to do?
Are they going to lock people in their houses?
Okay.
Did having Trump in the White House and the Republicans in the Senate prevent any of that from happening?
I love people keep saying, oh, they're going to push all this woke shit.
You're like, oh, yeah, that'll be a real change.
Wasn't it amazing how that all went away when Donald Trump was in there?
It's been pushed harder than ever.
So again, I'm not saying that bad things aren't going to happen.
It's the government.
Of course, bad things are going to happen.
I'm just saying that the idea that, oh, my God, the Republicans are out.
What were they doing in reality to prevent any of this stuff?
I hope you're right.
And you don't hear this from me often on the show, but I disagree with you on this one.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
But just know before you go, you're on very not yet, but we'll see.
Go ahead.
No, no, come on, Rob.
Everybody, tell us first.
I think we're going to be looking at a weaker Republican Party than in general because they're so much split and divided over the support Trump, don't support Trump.
And it's going to be interesting to see if Trump does come back in four years from now, if the party finally tries to go back to what they did before he won the nomination.
And they were trying to be like, hey, this guy's a train wreck.
He can't govern.
He's going to be bad.
And all those things basically kind of turned out to be true.
And he didn't really represent us as outsiders.
So objectively, let's just say Trump's kind of a failure.
Didn't really do any of the good stuff that he might have done.
Really, and now he's leaving.
Maybe he got cheated out of the election, but you've got total Democratic control.
So I think cheated or not, he didn't use his power properly.
Let's just call Donald Trump a failure for the Republican Party.
Maybe in four years from now, he'll drum up some excitement, but I'm just saying they're going into, they're now divided against a stronger Democratic team.
The problem with the Democratic team is they are pushing more of the woke stuff.
And I think there's a difference between when there's an attitude or the media likes to push wokeness versus when it's kind of government regulation, when you have to take those classes, when there's funding for it, when it's in your textbooks, when laws are getting changed, that you have to use these terms.
All of a sudden, then that becomes the norm and you're on the outside of it.
I also think the amount of money they're going to be putting towards green energy, the amount of money they're going to be putting towards global warming, which the reality of all the global warming shit, it's just government wrestling control.
And what you're going to see, what you're describing of the lockdowns is still with a little bit of Trump pushback.
How far are they going to go in terms of actually starting to?
I didn't do the full research on it, but New York's trying to pass some crazy new lyrics.
I don't know if they can quite jail you, but they can go a lot harsher in terms of, hey, you're leaving your house.
You know what I mean?
They really didn't try and they pushed it to the shame standard of, hey, we don't want you going out there.
You could get in trouble, but that could easily change to, hey, we're tracking you and you are in trouble.
Yeah, look, I'm not really disagreeing with anything that you just said there.
I'm not denying that they can push this agenda further.
I'm just saying that I don't think having the Republicans in there did anything to stop them from pushing this agenda.
And perhaps it's better if it's the one party doing it and we can at least point at them and fight them and be against the big government party together.
So the reason why there are two parties and the reason why the two-party system has been so stable, and I don't say stable in a positive way, I just mean to say that there hasn't been a revolution in this country, that this system works, is basically because oligarchs have figured out that this is a better system of control.
It's better to have two parties.
You know, if you look at all these unstable kind of third world one party dictatorships, what happens is when people get fed up enough with the one party, they overthrow the government.
But if you have a duopoly, if you have two parties, people get fed up enough with one party and they vote the other party in.
This is kind of the system that keeps going on and on.
And I'm just saying that I think it's possible that we're in just as good a position to point to this one party and say they are the ones who are responsible for all of this stuff.
Again, that's not, I'm not denying any of the, you know, the stuff that you're saying.
They're going to be.
In fact, I think it's all right.
They're going to be pushing all of this shit.
The Republican Party is more than just divided.
They are, they are decimated.
But, you know, the funny thing is that it's so people are pushing this narrative that Trump's a loser now.
And it's funny because people, you know, people are so critical of Donald Trump for being Trump, you know?
And it's so, so often when they try to fight him, they just become the exact same thing.
Republicans Losing Ground To Democrats00:07:12
You know what I mean?
Like, aha, you lost the election.
Now you're loser.
His whole thing was, I won the election, now I'm winner.
You're basically the same.
You're conceding the same game that he was playing.
But the funny thing is that it's not Donald Trump winning the presidency that's destroyed the Republican Party.
It's him losing.
That's what's destroying them.
What's destroying them is that all the support on the Republican side is behind Donald Trump.
It's not behind the Republican establishment.
And I've thought it was very interesting.
Like I follow Nick Fuentes on Twitter, and I've been following like Alex Jones and him.
And they're having all of these rallies and stuff since Trump, since the election.
And a bunch of them were advocating don't vote in the Georgia elections.
Like they were straight up like, that's it.
If the Republican Party doesn't stand for Trump, then we don't stand for them.
We don't care about the Republicans winning.
And feel however you feel about that.
There's arguments to be made on both sides.
But that's interesting.
It's a really interesting development.
And this could put tremendous pressure on the Republicans that they actually need to stand for something.
You know, what's interesting, Jeff Dice made this point sometime earlier in last year, where he was basically saying, and I think he's really onto something here, that the Republicans have no claim to anything.
They have no claim to anything.
They don't stand for anything.
I mean, they have no claim to the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
They have no claim to limited government.
They have no claim to traditional morality or the, you know, the family unit or like anything.
They have no claim to conserving anything.
They don't stand for any of it.
And so what is there?
You know, I mean, the Democrats are god-awful, but they do have a claim to something.
I mean, they have a claim to the stuff you just mentioned.
You know, we have a claim to wanting to do something about climate change.
We have a claim to wanting to do something about racial diversity or whatever.
It might all be stuff that, you know, we disagree with, or at least we certainly disagree with their methods to enforce it, but they have a claim to something.
The Republicans have nothing.
The Republicans' claim is like, we want to do what the Democrats were doing a decade ago, but we don't want to do what they want to do now.
And a decade ago, you were saying this is awful and you wanted a decade before that.
They have no claim to anything.
From the perspective of a libertarian, what are they going to say?
They're for small government.
You guys always outspend the Democrats when you guys are in charge.
Do they have a claim to say they want to oppose the wars or anything like that?
No.
Do they have a claim to say that they want to, you know, they have some loyalty to the Constitution or anything like that?
Of course not.
To a social conservative, do they have a claim to anything?
I mean, what have they stood up against?
What has been conserved?
Nothing.
They have nothing.
And so it's not surprising that Trump's base, who liked Trump, has no interest in the Republican Party.
Now, I don't mean to speak too broadly, like this isn't the entire Republican Party, but it's a big enough percentage.
It's a big enough percentage that they can't even win elections in Georgia.
It's pretty insane, you know?
And even in an election in Georgia, when the whole thing comes down to, right, it's one thing for Donald Trump to lose an incredibly close election in Georgia, putting aside whatever your thoughts on voter fraud or anything like that are.
It's one thing for Donald Trump to lose the presidency, right?
It still says something that Republicans can't win Georgia, you know, like that's the fact that Georgia is even in play is kind of crazy.
But what you're talking about now is different.
Donald Trump's a very unique person, and there certainly are a very unique president.
And there certainly are a lot of people for whatever reasons might not like the Democrats, but might also have wanted Donald Trump out.
You know, maybe just his personality turns a lot of people off.
A lot of people had Trump fatigue.
And that's not just Trump.
It's the media response too.
Like, we're just over this whole thing.
We're over there being some crazy, dramatic thing every single day.
We just want normal, you know, life back.
And in some ways, Joe Biden could claim to represent that.
But this is a different situation.
This is two Senate runoff elections where all you're determining now, Trump's already not going to be president.
All we're determining now is: do Democrats have complete control of the federal government?
And you would think that in Georgia, you could get enough people to be like, just to make sure the Democrats don't have the whole thing, we're going to vote for them.
But it really shows you how fed up a lot of the Republican voters are.
I think your take, if I may, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, is that we might see that people are so fed up with the Republican Party, they actually go back to being more conservative and they'll at least be a little bit closer to what we would like to see of government, which is kind of the more limited government and less spending.
Well, I'm not necessarily saying that.
What I'm saying is, I mean, I suppose it's possible.
I'm not holding my breath that that's going to happen.
But what I'm saying is that seeing as how they're not those things, why is it such a bad thing that people won't support them?
So I, right.
The difference to me is like, if you look at healthcare.
So you and I would look at healthcare and go, man, the Republicans haven't really helped us out over the last couple of years.
Obamacare is still active.
I don't have a free market for healthcare.
Insurance is fucked up.
All these pharmacy companies are getting their handouts.
We can go on and on and on.
But the difference is they didn't expand it into government healthcare and they got rid of the fact that you got fined if you didn't have it.
So at least that was.
So to me, the difference is like the Democrats will still keep pushing for more and more.
And so we're losing ground here.
And the fact that like someone like Georgia can get flipped is just that we're losing ground to the Democrats and the idea that government can pay for everything.
And so while you might look at what the Republicans were doing and go, hey, that's not enough or it's not, we need to overhaul it.
I don't know.
At least you're kind of like holding the line.
And so maybe you could start pushing more conservative and building off of that.
To me, what we've just done is we've lost ground and you're going to see Democrats.
And listen, they might get a ton of pushback, but they're going to try and expand government.
They are going to act those laws.
So you're going to, it's going to be ramped up.
So if anything, if the Republicans come back in, they'll try and unwind what they did over these next four years, but we're still further down the line for socialism.
Which is always kind of the case.
So I'm not, I'm really not disagreeing with anything you're saying.
I'm just saying that in addition to that, in addition to that dynamic, which is always the dynamic, this is always how the system works.
This is why the Democrats win and why the government gets bigger and bigger and why the culture goes more in that direction always.
But right now, you know, I look at it like this.
Nothing Learned From The Trump Moment00:04:01
There has been no attempt to even synthesize with what the Trump moment meant.
You know, so there's when you see it, it was like Donald Trump, for all of his faults, he brought up these issues that nobody else was talking about except him.
I mean, I say nobody.
I mean, okay, I guess, you know, Ann Coulter was talking about immigration and Lou Dobbs was talking about immigration, but really nobody.
If Donald Trump hadn't run in 2016, immigration pretty much wouldn't have been talked about amongst the Republicans here or there, but it wouldn't have been a central issue.
And because he came in and made it the central issue, everybody had to talk about it.
The same thing goes with trade agreements and to some degree, at least with the wars.
And Donald Trump talked about these issues that a whole lot of people really cared about.
And you would have thought that this maybe after they saw him win, this would have created an opportunity for the media class and the Democrats and the Republicans to, if nothing else, just for just in order to maintain power, they would have been like, okay, we have to incorporate a little bit of this into our worldview.
We have to talk about a few of these issues and pretend like we're going to do something on them.
And they didn't.
They did none of that.
They didn't, you know, the church hearings in the 70s or the church commission.
You know, it was like, it was under, I believe it was Ford was the president.
And they had these big, this, this investigation, this congressional investigation on intelligence communities, because basically a lot of information had come out, you know, it was like post-Vietnam War, and a lot of information had come out about how fucked up the CIA is and what they're doing and all these assassination programs.
And so they had these big hearings.
They released a little bit of information.
I mean, a lot of information, but they, you know, kept a lot of it secret still.
I think Ford signed some executive order, like, we won't be in the business of political assassinations anymore.
And then they came out of it kind of acting like we've reformed the system.
I mean, they didn't really, but it was at least a way to go, hey, your criticism is heard.
Your government isn't completely corrupt.
See, we're adjusting to the will of the people to some degree.
You know, like it's now, you could also argue that's worse than just not adjusting and letting, you know what I mean, because it keeps the system going.
But it's been kind of shocking to me that there's been even no attempt at doing that.
I mean, down to the stuff we were talking about last episode, if you paid attention to the corporate press over the last week, you would think the biggest issue in the world was Donald Trump making this phone call.
I mean, we, you know, we talked about it and we kind of laughed about it.
And it's like, oh my God, it shows what a buffoon Donald Trump is and how he just has no plan and has no idea how to wield power and, you know, all of this stuff.
But the idea that they're talking about it, like, this is the worst thing going on in the world when the country is facing so many major problems right now.
It really shows their almost inability to grapple with the moment.
And so what I see coming more or less is that I think nothing has been learned from the Trump moment.
And because of that, I think it's only going to increase and come back with a vengeance the next time around.
And I don't know that that's good, but it could potentially be good, maybe.
And in some ways, that provides a better opportunity for something than just voting for Paul Ryan Republicans who will maybe slow down the Democrats' progressive agenda by 5%.
That's all I'm saying.
Biden Facing Real Pushback00:14:41
It's not that it's not to, I don't disagree with anything that you're pointing out.
It's just that there is a silver lining in this scenario.
I think the question that people need to put forward, the risk that's on our plate or the thing to fear, is that as things maybe get worse over the next couple of years, does government become more authoritarian to protect its interest?
And so are you going to see more lockdowns, more control over our lives, and more of more of the force of government to protect, you know, basically their own power and their own status quo?
Or I don't know, maybe is there some freak economic prosperity that I didn't see coming because there's some technological development that we're done with oil.
Well, look, it's possible.
It is possible.
But I think that there is an opening here.
There's for people who really do care about, you know, I'd say individual liberty, but even short of that, just people who are somewhat opposed to government totalitarianism and who really see how awful what, you know, what our government has done to its citizens over the last year and for years before that, just particularly this last year.
There's an opening here.
All right.
And the opening is there's one on the right and there's one on the left.
And the one on the right is like, look, this is you're absolutely correct to realize that the Republicans don't stand for you at all.
And there's a really interesting dynamic going on right now with right-wingers getting red-pilled on the cops and realizing that the cops will enforce every one of these rules.
They are not there for you at all.
They'll seize your guns.
They'll shut down your business.
They'll stand by while you're assaulted.
They are not there for you.
And right-wingers have really had their eyes opened about that in the last year.
And so that's a big opening.
The other opening is that Donald Trump really allowed the establishment to pull the wool over the eyes of the left in an unbelievable way.
I mean, Obama did too, to some degree.
Obama, for, you know, the whole mix of what Obama was, it was something about just being, being the first black president, being so charismatic and such a great speaker and all of this stuff, that it just, it was, it was very hard for people on the left to criticize Barack Obama and not just criticize him, but acknowledge that he's, you know, a fucking war criminal.
That was very difficult for people on the left.
And I think that so much of their identity was wrapped up in we are the not racists, you know, we are the not racist people, which really is like right at the center of the left, the lefties identity.
And so they just couldn't, he, he just paralyzed so much of the left in this country.
And then Trump animated that group of people.
He turned them all into reactionaries.
So they were anything Trump was for, he would be against it, you know, or anything Trump was for, they would be against it.
But that's, that's going to be gone.
And now it's Biden who doesn't do either of those things.
He doesn't paralyze them or antagonize them.
He's just awful.
And there's going to be a big opening of the true progressives who fought for Biden.
You know, they fought for Biden, maybe partially because Bernie Sanders was telling them they had to or for whatever other reasons, but they fought for Biden and they are going to, mark my words, get nothing from Joe Biden.
Nothing but gestures.
I mean, they might get some gestures.
Oh, look, you know, the bombing campaigns will be led by a woman of color.
You know, that's like, that's what they'll get from Joe Biden.
And I don't know.
I think there's an opening to kind of talk to a lot of those people now and to try to see who, you know, I mean, obviously it's not going to be the majority of them, but there's a portion of them who can be, you know, who can find salvation.
Go ahead.
There's one.
This is the total opposite of what I was saying before about the government becoming more authoritarianism or more, you know, is that maybe what we saw over the last four years is that the government and the powers that be threw a little bit of a temper tantrum because they didn't like that this outsider came into office.
So for the first two years, you know, they talked about Russia collusion.
They stuck the council on him.
They didn't let him accomplish any of his agenda.
Then they saw this opening with the coronavirus.
We thought that perhaps they were going to bottom out the economy on him.
They didn't do that.
They didn't raise interest rates.
But perhaps the governors in some of these states prolonged the coronavirus and they enhanced all of the shutdowns and all of those measures because they very much wanted it to make our lives miserable.
So at least we would go, we've got to shake things up.
It's very possible that now we return to a little bit more of a normal state and they go, oh, look, there was the vaccine and they do open up.
And then all of a sudden the media is not just talking about how terrible the president is all the time.
And then they can go, look, we told you, if you put an actual government person in government, this thing functions okay.
And really, it's got nothing to do with the fact that Trump was in there.
It just has everything to do with the reaction of all these other people.
But it could be that you're people that are not that interested in politics that just want to live their lives realize, oh, you really do need a government person in government.
Yeah.
Well, look, this is, I was talking about this before the election, and I know I got some people pissed off at me for talking about this, but it is not so clear to me that we'd prefer Trump in there to Biden.
I mean, yes, don't get me wrong.
There's an argument for it.
I'm not saying it's clear the other way around either.
It's there's an argument that, look, at least Trump is somewhat better on a few of these policies.
And at least Trump pisses off all of the right people.
And at least Trump, you know, like whatever.
You could name a few things.
At least Trump was for cutting taxes a little bit.
At least he says sometimes the right thing about lockdowns and needing to reopen the economy.
At least he says the right things about trying to end wars or stuff like that, right?
Like there's something to that argument.
But there's also a counter to that, which is that if your enemy is the state, and it is, whether you realize it or not, that is your enemy, right?
And if your enemy is the state, who would you prefer as the face of your enemy?
Would you prefer the guy who's sitting there saying, I am outside, I'm here to destroy this thing.
I'm here to drain the swamp.
I represent you.
I don't represent the state while doing nothing to, you know, saying we're going to drain the swamp while your secretary of state is Mike Pompeo and your attorney general is Barr and your national security advisor is freaking, you know, what's his name?
John Bolton.
So, you know, do you want that guy as your leader or do you just want the guy who's of the system telling you he's for the system?
There's some benefit to the latter because at least with the latter, you can look at him and say, no, this is the problem.
The problem is the whole stinking system.
The problem isn't this one guy who's an aberration who's a little bit of a jerk on Twitter.
That's not the problem with all of this.
That's a big fucking distraction.
That has no relevance.
You know, the problem with Donald Trump was how similar he was to Obama in terms of how he governed.
It wasn't that he was so drastically different.
It wasn't that he was, you know, ruder.
That wasn't the issue.
The issue was that he governed in exactly the same manner.
So now with Joe Biden, it's a lot easier to make that case.
I don't know.
Would you rather, you know, if somebody's going to be the leader of this system that just fucks so many people over, would I rather it be the guy who's saying, I'm taking on this system and then going into central Pennsylvania and drawing 20,000 people who are chanting, we love you, we love you for 10 straight minutes and is then sitting there talking about how he's ending the wars and draining the swamp and all of this shit.
Or would I rather it be some bumbling old man who can't put a sentence together who's a career politician for the last 40 years?
I don't think it's that clear cut.
I think there's some benefit to him being the leader and his party being in control.
And then at least we can make it clear where we stand and everything's not as convoluted.
So, you know, we'll see how it all plays out.
But I also think that there's going to be, I just don't think it's going to be like Obama in his first, you know, couple years where he can get this huge agenda through.
I think Biden's going to have a really tough time getting his agenda through just because I think the American people can only take so much and there will be real pushback.
And I'd like to see more local pushback.
The one thing that's funny about Biden, like if you're looking at like a WWF match, if Biden's in the ring and he's trying to sell you on something and it's not working, so then he has to try and tag in Kamala.
Good luck with that.
Oh my God.
Did you see the thing that Kamala said in some interview about she was telling a story about when she was a baby and a stroller at a civil rights rally, like some story about it?
Sounds insufferable.
Oh, it was awful and just completely unreal.
And then so people were posting it, like making fun of it, like, oh, this obviously didn't happen.
And then they found out it was lifted from a Martin Luther King interview in Playboy, like in the 60s or something like that.
Like it was just, that's, that's who Kamala Harris is.
But no, I don't get away with that.
Like, how they just, I didn't even see that news story.
Yeah, I just, I, I literally just saw it yesterday.
Like people were tweeting about.
You read a Martin and then you just pretend that that's your life.
If she's even doing it, you know, it might just be one of the people around her.
Like, this is the story we're going with.
But yes, these people are like the phoniest, most uncharismatic people.
But I don't, you know, I don't know that that's the worst thing.
I think that I will, in general, I will take a politician who is transparently corrupt over a politician who can galvanize the masses.
I think the transparently corrupt one is less has less potential to inflict damage.
That's more or less how I feel about the situation.
So, you know, we will, you know, we'll see what happens.
Again, I'm not trying to present this as like, this is obviously better than if Donald Trump won.
I'm just saying that there's costs and benefits to both of them.
And, you know, we're going to, this is the reality of the situation.
So let's focus on what the benefits are to having the Democrats control the government.
I don't mean to say that like I do think you're right about what you said earlier in the show.
They're going to try to push some really awful shit.
And it's, that won't be good.
But truthfully speaking, I think awful shit's going to be pushed either way.
But the bottom line, right, with the whole Trump thing is that because so few people understood why Donald Trump was president to begin with, they have failed to make any adjustments to the situation.
So they, you know, and you see this, you see this in people's response to him losing and even in response to what is appears to be the Democrats taking control of the Senate.
Their whole response is like, you know, oh, it's over.
He's gone.
He's a loser.
Look how much he brought down the party.
And I just don't, you know, I just don't understand how you can't like, it's like he triggers people so much that he blinds them.
This has always been the case with Donald Trump.
He triggers them so much that they can't rationally assess what's going on.
And I don't care what you say.
The story here is not that Donald Trump lost the election to Joe Biden.
The story here isn't who controls the Senate.
The major story and what should, if you really wanted to learn and understand what's going on, the major story is still that Donald Trump won the presidency to begin with.
Why?
How?
What the fuck?
Those are the questions people should be asking.
And they've never been able to ask them in an honest way and actually get an answer.
And it's not that hard.
All you got to do is go talk to a Trump supporter.
They'll tell you, you know?
But it's like for most of the corporate press, most of the political class, they don't want to hear that answer.
So they just give you an answer that's comforting to their own narrative.
So that's where it's Russia or racism or whatever.
They can't actually understand what happened.
And what happened isn't that crazy.
It's that there was a huge portion of the American population who was completely sold out by the ruling elite.
They were.
They don't think they were.
They were.
They know they were.
They were, you know, Donald Trump won the presidency 16 years into the 21st century.
What have these people gotten in the 21st century?
They've been handed disastrous wars.
You know, they've seen the rise of opioid epidemic.
They've seen a lowering of life expectancy.
I mean, it's the whole thing is a fucking nightmare.
You got these people.
It's like, why do these people in central Pennsylvania coming out and chanting how much they love Donald Trump?
Well, what's been given?
If you drive through any small town in this country, you see closed down fucking factories and closed down plants, towns that are barely hanging on, life expectancy going down, drug addiction going up, suicide going up.
They got kids who have fought in these bullshit fucking wars.
They've been handed nothing.
The whole system is not working for them.
And they're sitting there and they look at their kids, right?
Maybe they got like three kids.
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One of them fought in a war.
It's never been the same.
One of them, you know, is struggling with an opioid addiction.
Maybe he hasn't killed himself, but he's fucking fucked up his life.
Maybe the other one's doing okay, graduated high school.
I don't know, has like whatever, some shit job, is never going to be able to own a house.
You know, you're looking at, you got a 28-year-old who's still living in your basement because they can't, you know, they can't make enough money to ever start a family of their own.
They're probably maybe one of them even went to college, but they're stuck, you know, they're burdened with this college debt and all of these things.
And the whole system doesn't work.
You've got a system that's that's left millions of people behind and screwed them over.
And Donald Trump came out and said to them, hey, this system has screwed you over and I'm going to fight for you.
That was the whole message.
It was like, I'm going to bring your jobs back.
We're going to stop fighting these stupid wars.
I'm going to stop, you know, like you're not going to be competing with some immigrant from a third world country for your job.
You're an American and I care about you.
Now, that might all have been bullshit, but he said it.
You know, he said it.
And that's all it really took was him saying he was for them.
And they were like, okay, then you're our guy.
And then the fact that he said that and the entire system treated him like he was fucking Adolf Hitler just solidified how much they supported him because it was like, oh, he's standing up for us and you guys hate him for that.
So now we're, we'll die for him, you know?
And none of that, none of these issues have been dealt with.
And the corporate press has no interest in dealing with any of them.
So they're not even going to talk about any of those issues.
They're just going to talk about Trump's phone call and how terrible that is.
So this is what's going to continue with Biden.
They're not going to talk about any of these issues.
They certainly don't have any solutions for any of these issues.
Quite frankly, I don't think Trump had any solutions for him either.
Basically, only me and you have solutions for him, Rob.
But they are, they're going to continue to say, well, the problem is, you know, whatever.
We don't have enough diversity and, you know, fucking some government pro in some government department or something like that.
And they'll keep throwing these distractions out.
And this resentment and this populism is just going to build and build and build.
And I think that that's something that we have to try to, excuse me, we have to try to tap into.
And I don't know, you know how effective we'll be able to, but that's what you got to try to do.
You got to try to tap into the population and let them know that this whole system is not fucking working for them because it's designed to not work for them.
And then, you know, as libertarians, you got to show them that we actually have better solutions for all of these problems, which we do, luckily.
So anyway, I guess that's more or less our feelings on that.
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Anything you want to add, Rob?
You're going to fucking one of these people stuck at home, get an octopus.
There's porn on it.
Oh, yeah.
I have not even fucked with that, but the boxing is where it's at.
Well, you get a knockout and then you go to the porn.
You feel like you earned it.
Yeah, that's not a bad, that's not a bad strategy there, Rob, or plan or whatever.
I don't fucking know.
All right, guys.
Thank you for listening.
That is our show for today.
We'll catch you next time on Friday when we really bring the heat.