Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - Free Money For Everyone
Aired: 2020-12-24
Duration: 01:06:47


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[00:01:45]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:01:47]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:01:48]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:01:52]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:01:58]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.

=== Violence Required For Property (14:11) ===

[00:02:03]  You're listening to part of the problem on the Gas Digital Network.
[00:02:07]  Here's your host, James Smith.
[00:02:10]  What's up, everybody?
[00:02:11]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:02:14]  I'm Dave Smith, and I'm just thrilled to pieces.
[00:02:18]  I'm thrilled to Ludwig von Pieces that I'm joined by the king of the caulks, Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
[00:02:24]  What's up, my brother?
[00:02:26]  Just getting ready to celebrate Christmas with the family.
[00:02:29]  Of course, you are.
[00:02:31]  Now, what family would that be?
[00:02:32]  Some Christian family who you lured into your home?
[00:02:36]  No, my kids.
[00:02:37]  I bought them nice gifts.
[00:02:38]  Oh, the wife's going to be over, and I'm looking forward to this.
[00:02:43]  What if this whole thing was just an act all these years?
[00:02:46]  Rob's got a wife and kids.
[00:02:47]  It's not Jewish.
[00:02:48]  It's like, I just thought that was like a funny shtick trying to be a comedian here.
[00:02:52]  You're the single Jewish guy.
[00:02:53]  I don't have the acting chops of Tim Dylan to pretend lifestyle of being gay.
[00:02:57]  I told Tim it's got to be years ago at this point, probably at least five, six years ago.
[00:03:03]  And he was, you know, he was a lot newer at the time.
[00:03:06]  And I was like, Tim, like, you're really funny.
[00:03:09]  You're funny enough that you don't have to pretend to be gay.
[00:03:12]  Like, you can just, you can make this on your own merit.
[00:03:15]  And he was like, no, no, I need an angle.
[00:03:17]  I need the gay thing.
[00:03:18]  And then he just got too far deep to, you know, back out now.
[00:03:23]  He can't admit to people that he's obviously not a gay dude.
[00:03:27]  But, you know, he, but he didn't even really blow up off that.
[00:03:30]  He blew up off just being hilarious.
[00:03:33]  And it's a shame.
[00:03:34]  I just, I think he, I don't think he ever needed to play this role, but he committed to it.
[00:03:38]  He committed to it so much that he will actually sleep with guys now.
[00:03:42]  And he's not gay in the slightest.
[00:03:44]  He loves women, loves vagina, but he's willing to go all the way and sleep with dudes just for fame.
[00:03:50]  And it's, it's sad, if you ask me.
[00:03:53]  It's sad.
[00:03:53]  But, you know, God bless him.
[00:03:55]  But the funny motherfucker.
[00:03:57]  Can't take that away from him.
[00:03:58]  Funny, funny, straight dude, Tim Dylan.
[00:04:02]  All right.
[00:04:03]  Anyway, so let's get into the show for today.
[00:04:06]  Look, I'll start.
[00:04:07]  I'm going to start by saying this, Rob.
[00:04:10]  I have been a libertarian for a little over 12 years, I guess.
[00:04:17]  I mean, I was first introduced to libertarianism in late 2007 by the great Ron Paul.
[00:04:24]  It probably took me somewhere in the next year.
[00:04:28]  that I would say I officially became a libertarian.
[00:04:31]  You know, it's not like I saw these ideas and then I was like, the next day, I was like, I'm a libertarian.
[00:04:35]  You know, it was a little bit of a drip drip.
[00:04:37]  Like the ideas really interested me.
[00:04:39]  I was like, I have to read up on these.
[00:04:41]  I have to understand it.
[00:04:42]  And as I've said before on the show, I think, if I can remember my state of mind accurately, the years have been hard on me.
[00:04:52]  But I think I really was looking into it in an attempt to disprove it.
[00:04:58]  You know, like I was looking into it to be like, this can't be right.
[00:05:02]  There's got to, it's got to be more.
[00:05:03]  Like there's got to be something that they're wrong about.
[00:05:06]  Pure free market economics can't be the way to go.
[00:05:08]  And the more I looked into it, I just, I was converted.
[00:05:12]  And I just realized at a certain point that not only could I not refute these arguments, but that their arguments smacked down every, you know, refutation that I could think of.
[00:05:24]  Is that a word?
[00:05:24]  Refutation?
[00:05:25]  Anyway, so that's, and eventually I was like, you know what?
[00:05:29]  They're right.
[00:05:30]  And I've been a libertarian all this time.
[00:05:33]  And for the simple reason that I was convinced by superior ideas when I found them.
[00:05:41]  And I have yet to find superior ideas.
[00:05:44]  And lots of people have tried.
[00:05:45]  We've done lots of segments about debunking libertarianism or this or that.
[00:05:49]  And they just never, they're never strong.
[00:05:52]  They're never as strong as the libertarian arguments.
[00:05:55]  And there's the, to me, the libertarian case, particularly when you get into the Rothbardian, the Hoppian kind of libertarian arguments, it is essentially logically irrefutable.
[00:06:06]  It is that now you could not be a libertarian logically if you were against peace and prosperity.
[00:06:15]  If you thought that peace and prosperity are really, really bad things and you just want to see people poor and at war with each other, then libertarianism is not for you.
[00:06:26]  But if you think peace and prosperity are overall like pretty cool, then this is where you need a bait.
[00:06:32]  And yeah, so that's pretty much that.
[00:06:35]  I've been a libertarian.
[00:06:36]  Now, this gets a lot of people have attempted, let's say, to change my mind.
[00:06:45]  A lot of people have insulted me for my beliefs or something about, oh, this is too simple or this doesn't add up or this would result in bad things or yada yada yada, a whole bunch of shit.
[00:06:59]  But I never found any of it persuasive until now.
[00:07:04]  Until now.
[00:07:05]  And it's all over.
[00:07:06]  We're done.
[00:07:07]  Here it is.
[00:07:09]  The end of all of our entire belief system.
[00:07:13]  Brian, roll the tape.
[00:07:15]  The problem with the non-aggression principle is that you actually need aggression to create property, right?
[00:07:22]  So it's kind of an incoherent premise, right?
[00:07:24]  Because if I- Aggression is what creates property?
[00:07:26]  Yeah, so if I think this is mine, what makes it mine is my right to exclude you from it, right?
[00:07:32]  And so that's an aggression.
[00:07:34]  So no, no, no, I didn't produce it.
[00:07:36]  I could just say it's mine.
[00:07:38]  I didn't produce this table.
[00:07:40]  It's mine.
[00:07:40]  I'm saying it's mine.
[00:07:41]  As long as it's someone else, you come on.
[00:07:42]  I'm saying it's mine.
[00:07:44]  And if anyone comes up to it and tries to sit down at it or use it and I beat them up, I'm the one initiating force, right?
[00:07:50]  I mean, I'm the one excluding them from the property that is now mine.
[00:07:54]  What makes it my property, in fact, is this exclusionary force.
[00:07:58]  Otherwise, it was just a piece of the world, right?
[00:08:00]  I mean, it was here, people could use it.
[00:08:02]  Now I'm saying it's mine, and I'm excluding them from it.
[00:08:04]  This guy here by accident, who knows, grows on trees.
[00:08:06]  Tables grow on trees.
[00:08:07]  Suppose we go out in the world where there's no primitive accumulation, and I take some plot of land from nature and say it's mine, and no one can come on it.
[00:08:16]  People just want to walk across it.
[00:08:17]  I beat them up or attack them, saying it's my property.
[00:08:19]  I'm the one initiating force there.
[00:08:21]  So that's what creates property.
[00:08:24]  All right.
[00:08:25]  So, by the way, this video was, I was tagged in it a whole bunch.
[00:08:29]  It was going viral on the internet.
[00:08:31]  And if you saw the tweet actually that we were playing right there, it's someone else saying, oh, yes, libertarians destroyed.
[00:08:38]  This is it.
[00:08:38]  Beat the fuck out.
[00:08:39]  Is that what BTFO means?
[00:08:42]  I think.
[00:08:42]  Anyway, so that is the arguments, the level of arguments that we're dealing with.
[00:08:48]  And I always have fun.
[00:08:49]  I've always had fun from the very beginning of this show with taking on the philosophical challenges to libertarianism because they all fall so flat.
[00:08:58]  By the way, if you haven't figured out yet, I was joking when I said that our ideology has been destroyed.
[00:09:05]  This didn't quite do it, but I was dead serious when I told you that Tim Dylan wasn't gay.
[00:09:10]  So just so we're clear on what's happened so far in the show.
[00:09:15]  So this is what when people say that, when I say that libertarianism is the philosophy of peace and prosperity, I just want it to be clear what I mean by this.
[00:09:24]  I mean that literally, that in order to have peace, in order to have prosperity, you have to have libertarianism to one degree or another.
[00:09:34]  And the more you have it, the more peace and prosperity you're going to have.
[00:09:37]  But this is the lefty critique of libertarianism in a nutshell.
[00:09:42]  And this is why so many of them think, oh, yeah, libertarianism just got destroyed.
[00:09:47]  Because she says, right, well, you need violence in order to create property.
[00:09:53]  Now, of course, she got something pretty fundamentally wrong there.
[00:10:01]  She demonstrates that you need violence or perhaps the threat of violence to protect property, which is somewhat true, but she kind of skipped over a pretty big part of the process there, which is that violence is not actually needed to create property.
[00:10:21]  And as Jan correctly pointed out, he said, well, where did this table come from?
[00:10:24]  I mean, did it just grow?
[00:10:26]  Like, this is the big thing that you're missing, right?
[00:10:28]  If you go, okay, so she uses the example of a table.
[00:10:30]  Well, here's a table.
[00:10:31]  Now, if I say it's my table, that means that if you try to take it away from me, I'm going to use violence to keep my table.
[00:10:38]  And there's some degree of truth to that.
[00:10:40]  I mean, it's not very effective to say it's my table if you can't actually keep it or do anything to anyone who tries to take it away from you.
[00:10:49]  So, you know, there's something to that.
[00:10:52]  But the problem is that if you just have one person saying it's my table and another person saying it's their table, isn't there some more information you might want to ascertain?
[00:11:04]  Like, why do you think it's your table?
[00:11:06]  And why do you think it's your table?
[00:11:08]  And if one person was like, well, I went to the store and bought the wood and built the table, you'd be like, oh, okay.
[00:11:14]  And if someone else says it's their table, you go, well, I'm just saying it's my table.
[00:11:18]  You'd probably go, well, I think that person has a better claim to it.
[00:11:22]  The person who bought it, maybe even let's go back to nature, chopped down the tree and built it themselves.
[00:11:27]  It's their table.
[00:11:28]  So just to be clear, there was no violence needed to build the table.
[00:11:34]  Absolutely none.
[00:11:35]  The only violence that's necessary is if someone was trying to come and take it from you after you built it.
[00:11:42]  So then you might ask yourself, who's actually initiating violence here and who's defending themselves, which is a pretty important question in any instance of justice.
[00:11:52]  So it does not negate the idea that you rightfully own something because someone tries to take it from you.
[00:11:59]  In the same way that if you said, if this woman was like, well, I don't want to be raped.
[00:12:04]  And someone was like, well, then you'd have to use violence to defend yourself or get someone else to use violence to defend yourself.
[00:12:10]  So therefore, you and the rapist have equal claim over your body.
[00:12:14]  It's like, well, no, because one of them rightfully belongs to you.
[00:12:20]  And one of these people does not have a just claim on the property, in this case, a body.
[00:12:28]  So it's just funny that this, this is the type of thing that gets thrown at libertarians.
[00:12:32]  And we love to slap this stuff down because it's really silly.
[00:12:35]  And like I said, it's only our philosophy can lead to peace and prosperity.
[00:12:40]  If I were to go outside right now and punch someone in the face, would property appear?
[00:12:44]  Because if violence creates property, I should be able to create things by being violent towards people.
[00:12:49]  Yes.
[00:12:49]  No, she says violence creates property, even though obviously it doesn't.
[00:12:52]  What creates property is a mix of labor and natural resources.
[00:12:58]  You know, that's just a factually true statement.
[00:13:00]  But she says that because that's a nicer way to say it than what she actually means, which is that, you know, mixing your labor with natural resources creates property, but you might need violence to defend it.
[00:13:13]  But it doesn't matter.
[00:13:14]  None of all of that's irrelevant.
[00:13:15]  Look, here's the truth, right?
[00:13:18]  You have to have property rights in every single society, no matter what your society is.
[00:13:24]  I mean, I suppose you could have like the most primitive hunter-gatherer society where there's no sense of property.
[00:13:32]  And even in that sense, there's going to be some things, right?
[00:13:35]  Like, I mean, literally, there will be property, not just like who owns it, but there will be property.
[00:13:40]  There will be a spear that you're going to use to go, you know, hunt or something, right?
[00:13:45]  There's going to be something, a TP you build or there will be something.
[00:13:49]  And as soon as you have anything that is property, you have to have some system of property rights, unless you're just at a constant state of war, a constant state of internal war.
[00:13:59]  Whoever can beat the other one up and grab that property, that belongs to them now.
[00:14:02]  Yeah, but that's still a violent enforcement of property, even if you have forced sharing.
[00:14:06]  So then you can force upon someone by threat of violence that if they don't share it in the proper way, you can't.
[00:14:13]  No matter what, it's violence.
[00:14:14]  Right.
[00:14:14]  And you can't get away from it, right?
[00:14:16]  So you can't get away from the fact that like even if you say this property belongs to everyone, well, then that's a theory of property rights.
[00:14:28]  This who owns it?
[00:14:29]  Everyone.
[00:14:30]  So you still believe there is an owner, and then you can decide how that's going to be enforced.
[00:14:34]  Maybe it'll be a council or a tribe or a government or something like that.
[00:14:38]  But you're still saying that this property belongs to somebody.
[00:14:41]  Now we're just arguing over who it belongs to.
[00:14:44]  And if her complaint is that, well, there's violence required, you know what I mean, for property.
[00:14:50]  Well, you'd realize that, yeah, there's violence required for your form of property too.
[00:14:54]  So what is the only peaceful solution that you could think of?
[00:14:59]  Well, the only peaceful solution is to figure out who has a legitimate claim on that property.
[00:15:06]  And where is the only, how is it, how is the only situation possible where there's not violence and certainly not initiatory violence is if you said the person who bought it, it belongs to them.
[00:15:19]  The person who made it, it belongs to them.
[00:15:21]  Obviously, they have the greatest claim.
[00:15:24]  Now, if I were to go build a table, if I were to, let's say I spend an hour, you know, cutting down wood, building a table, just, you know, I'm good.
[00:15:37]  So I did it in an hour, chopped down a tree, stripped it down, built the fucking table.
[00:15:41]  And I have a table now, and then someone else comes and takes it from me.
[00:15:45]  Okay.
[00:15:46]  Now, in that scenario, they have essentially, forget the, whether you believe the property is mine or not, right?
[00:15:53]  For if you don't believe in this, like, you know, Lockheed and just acquisition of property, that I've now been robbed of that hour of my life.
[00:16:02]  I've essentially been retroactively enslaved for that hour because I worked for something that I wouldn't have worked for if it, obviously, I wouldn't have done it unless I intended on having the table.

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[00:16:14]  I wasn't just doing, you know, just building tables for someone to come take it from me.
[00:16:17]  If I was, I would have given it to them and they wouldn't have had to take it from me.
[00:16:20]  So you have now stolen an hour out of my life.
[00:16:24]  So somebody has been victimized in this situation.
[00:16:28]  The only situation where nobody is victimized is if I build the table and it's my table now.
[00:16:34]  And you can come try to take it from me and I have a right to defend it.
[00:16:37]  Figuring out who's initiating violence, figuring out who's defending themselves, that's how justice is done.
[00:16:44]  And I guarantee you in lots of other areas in life, this woman would recognize that.
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=== Need Help In Reality (14:07) ===

[00:18:37]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:18:39]  So anyway, this is what we libertarians do, right?
[00:18:43]  We have the correct, irrefutable, logical position, and then we like to defend it against other, you know, people who, like this woman, you know, try to debunk libertarianism.
[00:18:56]  And that's what we've done and we've done for years.
[00:18:57]  And I've done lots of times on this show.
[00:18:59]  But this will be the next level of criticism that we get is that people will say, yes, I okay, fine.
[00:19:08]  Many times they'll kind of tap out and go, all right, yes, when it comes to the ideas, you do have a superior argument here, but you're just living in the clouds.
[00:19:16]  This is all hypothetical philosophy.
[00:19:20]  You know, this is, this is all an abstraction.
[00:19:22]  And here in the real world, you just got to do things that work.
[00:19:27]  Sometimes, yeah, I know in your head, this might be a better society, but here in the real world, you got to have a government.
[00:19:36]  You got to have a government do X, Y, and Z.
[00:19:38]  And look, there's this other government over there, and it doesn't seem to be such a disaster.
[00:19:41]  And they did that.
[00:19:42]  So we're just going to do it this way because let's be pragmatic.
[00:19:46]  Let's be realistic here.
[00:19:48]  You know, that's what we get a lot.
[00:19:50]  And of course, at the beginning of this pandemic, we got a lot of that.
[00:19:54]  We were talking about this on our last episode.
[00:19:56]  You get a lot of that at the beginning of a pandemic.
[00:19:58]  I mean, well, come on.
[00:19:59]  Look, this might be a nice philosophy in your head, but here's the real world.
[00:20:03]  We need lockdowns.
[00:20:04]  We need welfare.
[00:20:05]  We need government, you know, building hospital ships and whatever, you know?
[00:20:11]  And sure, the lockdowns did nothing but cause damage.
[00:20:15]  And sure, the hospital ships were sent out and then we didn't need them and they were just sent back.
[00:20:21]  And it was basically just a fucking visual exercise for no reason.
[00:20:24]  But, you know, got to get serious.
[00:20:26]  The serious adults are working here.
[00:20:28]  But the other one is really, you know, people need help.
[00:20:31]  People need help.
[00:20:33]  And that's why you need the government.
[00:20:35]  You can't live in this, you know, philosophical world.
[00:20:41]  You got to get down to real life and how things actually work.
[00:20:45]  So let's take a look at real life and not just, you know, hypotheticals and philosophical arguments.
[00:20:52]  Let's talk about real life and how these things really work.
[00:20:56]  Because our government, our wonderful federal government, is in the process of passing a COVID relief bill.
[00:21:03]  So here's how it works in reality.
[00:21:07]  Congress just the other day was given a 5,500 page bill.
[00:21:16]  They were given a couple hours to decide whether or not they want to vote on it.
[00:21:21]  Can you imagine?
[00:21:22]  I just like imagine we saw, we're probably not going to play the video on here, but you sent me the video of Tulsi Gabbard talking about this.
[00:21:29]  They're literally presented a 5,500 page bill and told they have to vote on this in a couple hours.
[00:21:36]  I mean, could you imagine?
[00:21:37]  Think about like a small book, a 200-page book.
[00:21:45]  If someone gave you a 200-page book and said, this is a pretty dense book, pretty complicated.
[00:21:50]  I mean, have you seen what these laws look like?
[00:21:52]  They're very dense, very complicated.
[00:21:55]  And you go, you have to read the book, really understand it, and then you have to decide whether we are going to force these policies on real human beings.
[00:22:05]  It's a 200-page book, and you've got two hours to wouldn't you right away go, but that's impossible.
[00:22:11]  You can't possibly read a 200-page book, actually absorb it, think through every page, understand what's being proposed here.
[00:22:19]  And then at the end of this, I have to force this on people.
[00:22:23]  It'd be ridiculous.
[00:22:24]  So this is 5,500 pages.
[00:22:27]  That's what they made the fucking these congressmen vote on.
[00:22:32]  And it's interesting because you see who some people are.
[00:22:36]  So Tulsi Gabbard was not the only one who complained about it.
[00:22:40]  Rand Paul, of course, complained about it.
[00:22:42]  And AOC complained.
[00:22:45]  She said, you know, this is kind of bullshit that they're throwing these thousand-page bills at us.
[00:22:49]  And then I'm expected to vote on it in a couple of hours.
[00:22:52]  And you know what AOC did?
[00:22:53]  She voted for it.
[00:22:56]  She complained that she can't read this and then voted on it.
[00:23:00]  That's the real system that you'll defend and say, well, this libertarian thing is just kind of childish.
[00:23:07]  I mean, sure, when you're 18, 19, I understand being a libertarian, but like as an adult, you're a libertarian.
[00:23:12]  No, you have to join the serious adults who elect representatives who vote on things they don't read.
[00:23:19]  That's the real grown-up world.
[00:23:22]  Voting, forcing down the American people's throats a bill that I've never even read.
[00:23:28]  I don't know who wrote it.
[00:23:29]  AOC doesn't even know.
[00:23:32]  Some lobbyists.
[00:23:33]  You know, it was presented to her.
[00:23:36]  That's it.
[00:23:37]  And I think you can see from Tulsi that you can refuse it.
[00:23:42]  The system basically works where there's social pressure here that you don't want to be the person that didn't get the American people the $600.
[00:23:50]  Now, that thing where they're saying every American needs the $600.
[00:23:53]  So, all right, you and I, we don't agree with that, but let's just go with people need the relief and we're going to get them $600 to $2,000.
[00:23:59]  Fine.
[00:24:00]  But then what they end up doing is they get this bill, which is 5,000 pages long, no one can read it, and they attach every other thing under the sun to it to make sure that every senator can get their well, it's not the uncle and cousin, but whatever their cause is: Pakistani kids, Israel, the big feeders out in Los Angeles, whatever your little thing is that you got to make sure is getting money so it all gets attached to it.
[00:24:27]  If enough senators or congressmen came along and said, No, you got to give us a bill that we can read, like we're, it's just making the argument in the court of public opinion to go, I would love to get everybody the checks that they need, but you need to get me a bill that's only about the stimulus checks with none of the other bullshit.
[00:24:44]  And it's got to be something with enough time I can read it.
[00:24:46]  I don't think anyone, if enough people are on Fox and CNN saying that, do you think the American people would go, How dare Congress not give me this $600?
[00:24:54]  Oh, I mean, it's certainly worth attempting.
[00:24:57]  It's really not that hard to explain to them.
[00:24:59]  They, the nerve of these, these guys, they're they passed the it's 900 billion for the COVID uh relief and then a whole big other price tag attack attached just to the general spending bill of it.
[00:25:11]  They're giving uh the American people $600 each and not even each.
[00:25:18]  I mean, it's $600, I think you have to make $75,000 a year or less or something like that, but they're giving a certain amount of the American people $600.
[00:25:27]  But Israel gets $500 million just in this bill, by the way.
[00:25:31]  It brings their total of the year up to over $3 billion.
[00:25:35]  But that's not a problem.
[00:25:36]  And of course, we've got to have some money in there for like gender studies in Pakistan.
[00:25:42]  And we have to protect the border of Sudan.
[00:25:45]  And we have to, I mean, just imagine, imagine the, you know, they'll tell us that we are too in the clouds and you have to deal in real life.
[00:25:54]  And yet, the politicians here, they just, you know, we're in a real crisis.
[00:25:59]  American people need help.
[00:26:01]  There's, you know, the economy's been locked down for most of this year.
[00:26:05]  But we just want to also, while we're, you know, trying to help people pay their bills, we want to also take on the project of recreating the gender cultural traditions in Pakistan.
[00:26:21]  It's no biggie, right?
[00:26:22]  We just also want to recreate their society because we're doing such a great job with our society here that we also know how to go around the world and recreate other societies.
[00:26:32]  I mean, sure, you might think these politicians are in Washington, D.C., and just over the last weeks, there's been violent protests in Washington, D.C.
[00:26:41]  We can't even figure out how to protect people and businesses there.
[00:26:45]  We can barely figure out how to have a functioning election that the country believes in.
[00:26:49]  But we really want to take on the perception of gender roles in Pakistan.
[00:26:53]  We feel like we're ready for that.
[00:26:55]  But somehow we need to be more realistic.
[00:26:58]  Like as if we're a little bit utopian, believing in this whole like private property and laissez-faire capitalism and being against wars.
[00:27:06]  That's kind of like utopian.
[00:27:08]  But what's totally reasonable and pragmatic is to just remake the world in the image of what has not even been a success here in America.
[00:27:18]  That's that's the reality.
[00:27:20]  They need to pass like, I don't know, maybe they got to add this to our constitution, but people should not be allowed to vote on bills they haven't read.
[00:27:28]  That to me is no different than business, like signing.
[00:27:30]  I would never sign a, I get really simple contracts that are a page or two.
[00:27:34]  I would never sign them without reading them.
[00:27:35]  Yeah, that's that's just crazy.
[00:27:37]  Why, like, you don't know what your liability is or where you're where you're signing off.
[00:27:39]  My dad's a lawyer.
[00:27:40]  That was one of the first things taught us as a kid.
[00:27:42]  You got to read things before you sign them.
[00:27:44]  Simple rule for life.
[00:27:45]  The other one is they got to start passing bills one bill at a time.
[00:27:49]  The whole attaching nonsense to one thing that people care about, they just got to end that.
[00:27:53]  That's like one of the, I guess, biggest and most powerful tools for all the fraud of government and getting pork to your friends.
[00:28:01]  So from now on, if everyone's in agreement that we need to bail out to individuals, then let's just have a 10-page bill on that.
[00:28:09]  Like you don't need a five.
[00:28:10]  Also, I'd love to know who prepares these things.
[00:28:13]  What law firm is getting a million dollars to prepare a 5,000?
[00:28:18]  Like, who's the one person that actually in the world that knows what's in this?
[00:28:21]  Like, is there a person we can put up on the stand that can explain?
[00:28:24]  Is there one person?
[00:28:25]  Is there one person out there who actually has read the whole 5,500-page bill and understands everything?
[00:28:31]  Where do the pages come from?
[00:28:32]  My guess is no.
[00:28:34]  I really think it's just lobbyists get their provisions in there.
[00:28:37]  And then as soon as they've gotten theirs in there, they're happy.
[00:28:39]  And so they buy, you know what I mean?
[00:28:41]  They're just like, okay, we'll get yours and yours and yours and yours.
[00:28:43]  And eventually it's put together by lobbyists and staffers and then presented to the congressman.
[00:28:49]  And it's just like, well, we got to vote on this.
[00:28:50]  And this way you can say, we got you your 600 bucks.
[00:28:53]  By the way, two problems with the $600.
[00:28:57]  Firstly, some of the money is going to the PPE loans, but there's already been a lot of reports of fraud of the first round and seeing that that money went to companies that clearly like the Lakers took money and had to give it back.
[00:29:08]  But that was just because they got caught by the newspapers.
[00:29:10]  How many people didn't give it back?
[00:29:12]  But the $600, it should be targeted relief.
[00:29:15]  Like, listen, I'd love to have some money.
[00:29:17]  I'm not rich, but I've still been working.
[00:29:19]  Like, your $600 is not going to change my life.
[00:29:22]  The guy whose restaurant was told that he can't open, he should be getting my money and everyone else who's been working from home.
[00:29:27]  Like, of course.
[00:29:28]  If you've got an idea that government should be able to come in and operate as an insurance fund for the people that are fucked so that, you know, we can kind of smooth out some of the risk in society and help the people that are fucked, then go do that.
[00:29:40]  Don't send me help.
[00:29:41]  Well, can you imagine?
[00:29:42]  Can you imagine if you were like, let's say you're going to give some money to a charity?
[00:29:46]  And because you're like, yeah, you know, there are people who really do need help in the world, you know, like obviously, and particularly this year in America, no question.
[00:29:54]  I mean, mostly because the government's fucked people over.
[00:29:57]  But either way, we're here now and those people do need help.
[00:30:00]  So let's say you were like, hey, I'm going to give some money to a charity.
[00:30:04]  And you asked the charity, you know, you were like, hey, so how do you figure out who needs help?
[00:30:08]  And then give them help.
[00:30:09]  And they went, no, We just give it to everyone.
[00:30:12]  This charity gives to everyone, you know, whether they need help, whether they don't need help, we give it to everyone.
[00:30:18]  If you've lost your job, if you haven't lost your job, we still give it to you.
[00:30:20]  Wouldn't you immediately be like, I'm going to look for another charity?
[00:30:23]  I'm going to look for another charity that actually targets the people who need the help because that's the whole point of this.
[00:30:29]  Why am I giving money to people who don't need the help?
[00:30:32]  Why would I be giving money to some people's lives who have been unaffected by what happened this year?
[00:30:37]  And so that's that, you know, this is how government operates.
[00:30:41]  They're going to, you know, with so many of their, not all of them, but with so many of their programs, Medicare, Social Security, it's all the same.
[00:30:46]  We'll just give it to everyone.
[00:30:48]  Well, what about like a fucking billionaire who's retired?
[00:30:51]  Yep, them two.
[00:30:52]  Give it to them too.
[00:30:53]  Sure, why not?
[00:30:55]  They'll get their social security check that they don't even need or use or wouldn't notice if it were there.
[00:31:00]  So anyway, now there were some attachments.
[00:31:02]  It's like people making $75,000 and under, but we don't really need to give welfare to the person making $75,000 who has still been able to work this whole year.
[00:31:11]  What we need to do is to try to help people who have really been fucked over.
[00:31:15]  And I mean, if you needed any more proof that government was not the instrument to do this, this bill should probably sum that up for you.
[00:31:23]  And by the way, and just in case someone's new to this show, we don't think government should be sending anyone a check for any reason.
[00:31:29]  Go listen to what Rand Paul had to say.
[00:31:31]  He summed it up best.
[00:31:32]  Let people get back to work.
[00:31:33]  That's what we need here.
[00:31:35]  And sending out helicopter money is probably going to lead to inflation or our economy is so screwy that for some reason it doesn't work.
[00:31:42]  And we're talking about 600 bucks.
[00:31:43]  This isn't going to do anything for anybody.
[00:31:46]  You know what?
[00:31:46]  The only thing that these people need is to be allowed to work again.
[00:31:50]  That's what they need.
[00:31:52]  Or if you're going to tell them that they can't work, then you got to come in and actually help them out.
[00:31:56]  You got some responsibility here.
[00:31:58]  But it's not just.
[00:32:00]  The other thing that's interesting is it seems that I don't know, it doesn't seem like the public likes that they're getting $600, but sees what's going on.
[00:32:08]  Because this is even being reported by New York Times, CNN.
[00:32:11]  You're people that would usually be like, hell yeah, look, the government's spending more money because that's what they like to champion.
[00:32:17]  It's just that we can spend all the money and help everybody all the time.
[00:32:20]  Even those folks are kind of like, this $600 sucks.
[00:32:23]  And Donald Trump passed it back down saying, hey, you got too much bullshit in here and people should be getting $10,000.
[00:32:31]  Here's the interesting thing, right?
[00:32:32]  He didn't exactly pass it back down, but let's actually, let's play, because we have that clip lined up.
[00:32:36]  This was interesting, particularly lame duck Donald Trump.
[00:32:40]  But so here was his response to this COVID bill.

=== Congress Amends The Bill (09:32) ===

[00:32:45]  The summer, Democrats cruelly blocked COVID relief legislation in an effort to advance their extreme left-wing agenda and influence the election.
[00:32:55]  Then a few months ago, Congress started negotiations on a new package to get urgently needed help to the American people.
[00:33:04]  It's taken forever.
[00:33:06]  However, the bill they are now planning to send back to my desk is much different than anticipated.
[00:33:13]  It really is a disgrace.
[00:33:15]  For example, among the more than 5,000 pages in this bill, which nobody in Congress has read because of its length and complexity, it's called the COVID Relief Bill, but it has almost nothing to do with COVID.
[00:33:30]  This bill contains $85.5 million for assistance to Cambodia, $134 million to Burma, $1.3 billion for Egypt and the Egyptian military, which will go out and buy almost exclusively Russian military equipment.
[00:33:51]  $25 million for democracy and gender programs in Pakistan.
[00:33:56]  $505 million to Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama.
[00:34:06]  $40 million for the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., which is not even open for business.
[00:34:13]  $1 billion for the Smithsonian, and an additional $154 million for the National Gallery of Art.
[00:34:23]  Likewise, these facilities are essentially not open.
[00:34:28]  $7 million for reef fish management.
[00:34:32]  $25 million to combat Asian carp.
[00:34:36]  $2.5 million to count the number of amberjack fish in the Gulf of Mexico.
[00:34:43]  A provision to promote the breeding of fish in federal hatcheries.
[00:34:48]  $3 million in poultry production technology.
[00:34:52]  $2 million to research the impact of down trees.
[00:34:56]  $566 million for construction projects at the FBI.
[00:35:02]  The bill also allows stimulus checks for the family members of illegal aliens, allowing them to get up to $1,800 each.
[00:35:12]  This is far more than the Americans are given.
[00:35:16]  Despite all of this wasteful spending and much more, the $900 billion package provides hardworking taxpayers with only $600 each in relief payments.
[00:35:29]  And not enough money is given to small businesses and in particular restaurants whose owners have suffered so grievously.
[00:35:39]  They were only given a deduction for others to use in business, their restaurant for two years.
[00:35:47]  This two-year period must be withdrawn, which will allow the owners to obtain financing and get their restaurants back in condition.
[00:35:57]  Congress can terminate it at a much later date, but two years is not acceptable.
[00:36:02]  It's not enough.
[00:36:03]  Congress found plenty of money for foreign countries, lobbyists, and special interests while sending the bare minimum to the American people who need it.
[00:36:13]  It wasn't their fault.
[00:36:14]  It was China's fault, not their fault.
[00:36:18]  I am asking Congress to amend this bill and increase the ridiculously low $600 to $2,000 or $4,000 for a couple.
[00:36:30]  I'm also asking Congress to immediately get rid of the wasteful and unnecessary items from this legislation and to send me a suitable bill or else the next administration will have to deliver a COVID relief package.
[00:36:45]  And maybe that administration will be me and we will get it done.
[00:36:50]  Thank you very much.
[00:36:52]  All right.
[00:36:53]  So there is President Donald Trump now.
[00:36:56]  It's not true.
[00:36:57]  None of that's in the bill.
[00:36:59]  Yeah, right.
[00:37:00]  So by the way, at the end, that was maybe the closest to a concession we've heard from Donald Trump.
[00:37:08]  He said the next administration and maybe that will be me.
[00:37:11]  So he is he is conceding that there's a chance that that won't be him in the next administration.
[00:37:17]  However, here's something interesting about this, right?
[00:37:20]  And this is essentially what you were saying, right?
[00:37:23]  That it's like, hey, you cannot support this stuff and just use your microphone to explain to the American people why you're not supporting it.
[00:37:32]  And right now, it just seems to me that this would be the easiest time, particularly with the foreign aid aspect of the bill.
[00:37:40]  Like how hard could it be right now to convince people that, you know, we're not in a position to be sending money to other countries.
[00:37:50]  Our people are hurting.
[00:37:51]  Our people are supposed to be represented by their own government.
[00:37:55]  Obviously, they're not.
[00:37:57]  And our people are the one who are taxed forcibly to pay into this system.
[00:38:01]  So that's who it's here to help.
[00:38:04]  It just seems like it should be a fairly easy sell.
[00:38:06]  And of course, Trump does a pretty good job of running through all the ridiculous things that are in the bill.
[00:38:12]  And he's proposing that we give more aid to people instead of $600.
[00:38:16]  Let's give them $2,000, which, you know, in the grand scheme of things, I don't know how much of a difference that's going to make either, but it would be more helpful for people to get $2,000 than $600.
[00:38:28]  And truthfully, we could give everybody $2,000 and still save a ton of money if we cut the other stuff off.
[00:38:33]  But what I don't get, what's really like missing from this is that there's one word that never came up in Donald Trump's speech, which is veto.
[00:38:48]  And he could just say, I'm vetoing this bill, but instead he's saying, I want Congress to amend the bill because even he understands this is just, this is how it's, there's going to be a whole bunch of pork and bullshit in it.
[00:38:59]  Like that's, I'd like there to be a little bit less.
[00:39:03]  But please, you know, up the money for people and lower, like how revealing is it that the government is incapable of just saying we're sending out $2,000 checks to everybody?
[00:39:18]  How many people are we sending them out to?
[00:39:21]  Okay, that's the price of the bill.
[00:39:22]  There'll be nothing else in this bill.
[00:39:24]  Nothing.
[00:39:25]  Nothing about gender programs in Pakistan.
[00:39:28]  Nothing about weapons for Israel.
[00:39:31]  None of this.
[00:39:32]  We're just passing a bill that's what we're claiming it's for, the people who need aid.
[00:39:38]  They're incapable of doing that.
[00:39:40]  Nobody can even, with a straight face, present this idea.
[00:39:45]  And if they did, they would just be ignored and not taken seriously.
[00:39:49]  But doesn't that tell you everything right there?
[00:39:52]  It's this is the whole system is designed around the fact that if you have anything that's popular that people need, that people are going to support, then you have to use that opportunity to shove as much of your crap through as possible, because that's the only time you're going to get the opportunity to do it.
[00:40:15]  And if you tried to put through all your cronius bullshit without something popular attached to it, then everyone would be like, no, this is this is bullshit.
[00:40:23]  So you have to mix them together.
[00:40:24]  So you can never get this corrupt group of criminals to ever just do the right thing on its own, assuming that you think giving people money is the right thing, which look, there's an argument for.
[00:40:37]  But that just is impossible and will never happen.
[00:40:40]  Nancy, I don't know if you saw it.
[00:40:42]  She just somewhat called the bluff and said, oh, great.
[00:40:45]  We never could get the number for what Donald Trump for the direct checks.
[00:40:48]  If it's 2,000, we'll just amend it.
[00:40:50]  But then ignored all the, ignored that there was all this other crap in there.
[00:40:55]  But like you said, I do think this would be a good opportunity for those interested in challenging your power players like Nancy Pelosi of just calling out the fact that it just shouldn't be done this way.
[00:41:08]  It would not be that hard to educate the American people that bills shouldn't include the things that are not on the title.
[00:41:15]  Like if it's COVID relief, then have it be for COVID relief.
[00:41:18]  And you shouldn't be allowed to vote on things you haven't read.
[00:41:21]  Yeah.
[00:41:21]  No, it's, but it does, it also seems to me like the level, I mean, this is all like a lot of the stuff we're talking about is just always run of the mill, you know, politics.
[00:41:33]  But it seems like it's been stepped up to a level that it's almost like they're daring the American people to revolt.
[00:41:42]  Like they're almost just like, you know, it's like you've got a guy down on the ground.
[00:41:47]  You've beaten him up.
[00:41:48]  You've taken his money.
[00:41:49]  Now you're taking his shoes.
[00:41:50]  Now you're just spitting on him.
[00:41:52]  Now you're just insulting him.
[00:41:53]  Like you're just begging this guy to fight back.
[00:41:56]  Like just like just trying to push it as far as you can.
[00:42:00]  I mean, the fact that there's money for border security in Sudan after all of these years of them telling you you're basically a Nazi if you care about border security in the United States of America.
[00:42:13]  Yeah, but we will rob you to pay for other countries to have border security.

=== Free Money Is Useless (15:47) ===

[00:42:18]  The fact that there's there's money for fucking gender studies programs in Pakistan, it almost just seems to be taunting you, taunting you.
[00:42:26]  Like, oh, yes, sorry, sorry.
[00:42:28]  I know we've taken this long to get you any relief after we fucking legally, you know, made you stop working.
[00:42:36]  But, you know, we really just got to go see.
[00:42:38]  What is the Pakistan gender thing?
[00:42:40]  Like, what is it?
[00:42:41]  Just whether or not you wear a burqa?
[00:42:43]  I mean, it's well, they, you know, they don't actually break it down in the bill.
[00:42:47]  So they just basically say they just allocate the money for gender-related programs in Pakistan.
[00:42:55]  So it's, we'll find out.
[00:42:56]  You know, the devil's in the details.
[00:42:58]  You always see this is like how a lot of these bills work.
[00:43:00]  This will just be like, well, this committee will be created to allocate this money for this purpose, but you have to actually wait and see.
[00:43:07]  Who knows what the fucking government of Pakistan's actually going to do with the money when they get it?
[00:43:12]  But this is what they're claiming.
[00:43:14]  And throughout all of this, and there's also a lot of concerns about illegals getting money in this whole thing.
[00:43:21]  So there's just all, but it just seems so much like such a slap in the face, such a slap in the face to people who have really legitimately been struggling all these years.
[00:43:30]  And they're almost like, for us to get you a crummy $600, you have to swallow all of this shit.
[00:43:37]  All of it.
[00:43:38]  I mean, what is like to somebody who's really hurting, what is $600 even going to do for them?
[00:43:44]  All right, guys, let's take a quick second.
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[00:44:58]  But yeah, anyway, yeah, so there were, it's also, you can just see, you know, as I was mentioning before with AOC versus Tulsi Gabbard, say, you can just see what people are just, you know, like who actually has a shred of integrity and who has zero.
[00:45:15]  And so Tulsi Gabbard had a little bit of integrity, voted against this.
[00:45:19]  AOC, completely useless, completely useless.
[00:45:24]  Rand Paul, by the way, should be saluted for the stand that he took against this.
[00:45:30]  Actually, you know what, Brian, could you just let's pull up the Rand Paul video?
[00:45:34]  I didn't send that to you, but let's pull it up and we'll just play a little bit of it.
[00:45:37]  Republicans like to mock modern monetary theory.
[00:45:41]  The idea that government can print money with impunity, that government can spend whatever it wants without the need to tax.
[00:45:49]  Modern monetary theory is basically the Dick Cheney deficits don't matter crowd.
[00:45:56]  Trussed up with a new fancy title.
[00:45:59]  Most Republicans rightly lampoon this quackery.
[00:46:02]  That is when they're not practicing the quackery themselves.
[00:46:06]  Today, many of these same Republicans will vote for a bill that makes modern monetary theory look like child's play in comparison.
[00:46:14]  The monster spending bill presented today is not just a deficits don't matter disaster.
[00:46:21]  It is everything Republicans say they don't believe in.
[00:46:25]  This bill is free money for everyone.
[00:46:28]  Proponents don't care if you're fully employed or own your own house or own your own business.
[00:46:35]  Free money for everyone, they cry.
[00:46:38]  And yet, if free money were the answer, if money really grew on trees, why not give more free money?
[00:46:46]  Why not give it out all the time?
[00:46:49]  Why stop at $600 a person?
[00:46:52]  Why not $1,000?
[00:46:54]  Why not $2,000?
[00:46:56]  Maybe these new free money Republicans should join the everybody gets a guaranteed income caucus.
[00:47:04]  Why not $20,000 a year for everybody?
[00:47:06]  Why not $30,000?
[00:47:08]  If we can print up money with impunity, why not do it?
[00:47:12]  The Treasury can just keep printing the money.
[00:47:15]  That is, until someone points out that the emperor has no clothes and that the dollar no longer has value.
[00:47:25]  To so-called conservatives who are quick to identify the socialism of Democrats, if you vote for this spending monstrosity, you are no better.
[00:47:35]  When you vote to pass out free money, you lose your soul and you abandon forever any semblance of moral or fiscal integrity.
[00:47:45]  So the next time you see Republicans in high moral dudgeon claiming and complaining about spending of Democrats and socialism, remind them.
[00:47:57]  Remind them if they supported this monstrous bill that really the difference between the parties is less Adam Smith versus Marx and more Marx versus Ingalls.
[00:48:11]  How bad is our fiscal situation?
[00:48:14]  Well, the federal government brought in $3.3 trillion last year and spent $6.6 trillion.
[00:48:20]  The deficit last year, a record-busting $3.3 trillion.
[00:48:27]  If you're looking for more COVID bailout money, we don't have any.
[00:48:31]  The coffers are bare.
[00:48:33]  We have no rainy day fund.
[00:48:35]  We have no savings account.
[00:48:37]  Congress has spent all the money long ago.
[00:48:42]  The economic damage from this pandemic is not the reason for this runaway spending.
[00:48:47]  This spending's been going on for decades.
[00:48:50]  Every year, even before we get to all the extra COVID-free money, we've been spending a trillion dollars we don't have.
[00:48:58]  Today's money is gone.
[00:49:00]  So Congress is spending tomorrow's money.
[00:49:03]  The spending chart is a red line of red ink that goes on forever.
[00:49:09]  When we talk about spending tomorrow's money, it's not just the money that we need next month.
[00:49:15]  It's the money we might need in a decade.
[00:49:18]  It's the money we will need in one, two, three generations from now for national defense, for infrastructure.
[00:49:26]  This is the money that your children and your grandchildren will pay back with interest.
[00:49:33]  The deficit doubling and tripling.
[00:49:36]  Under George Bush, it went from $5 trillion to $10 trillion.
[00:49:40]  Under President Obama, it went from $10 to $20 trillion.
[00:49:43]  We're now at $27 trillion, but we're adding it at $1 trillion a year before we get to this COVID budget-busting bailout.
[00:49:53]  All right.
[00:49:55]  You can leave it there.
[00:49:56]  I think you guys more or less get the spirit of it.
[00:49:58]  He goes on like this for another 10 minutes or so.
[00:50:01]  And it's just, it's fantastic.
[00:50:02]  And good for him.
[00:50:04]  Good for him for being one guy who's willing to stand up against this insanity.
[00:50:08]  And to Rob's point earlier, it shows it can be done.
[00:50:11]  You can do it.
[00:50:12]  I mean, the video's going viral.
[00:50:14]  Some people are appreciating it.
[00:50:15]  I mean, what's the point of being there if you can't be, you know, if you can't tell the truth about this shit?
[00:50:21]  And it really does, you know, does demonstrate just how utterly useless the Republican Party is.
[00:50:27]  I mean, people have come to expect this shit from the Democrats, but the fact that the Republicans will go along with all of this shit is really just disgraceful.
[00:50:37]  And of course, Rand starts off there with, I think, the perfect point.
[00:50:43]  It's like, if you believe we can do this shit, why are you limiting it to $600 payments?
[00:50:48]  Why not just give everyone $100,000?
[00:50:51]  What's the limiting principle here?
[00:50:53]  Why would this ever be a problem?
[00:50:54]  Explain that to me, and I'll tell you why we're already beyond that point.
[00:50:59]  So anyway, props to Rand Paul.
[00:51:02]  Salute.
[00:51:04]  All right.
[00:51:05]  So do you have anything else to add about this bill, Rob, or do you want to talk about COVID for a sec before we get out of here?
[00:51:13]  I think we covered the bill, dude.
[00:51:14]  Total nonsense.
[00:51:17]  In summation, at a minimum, you got to stop doing multiple things at a time and make it that people can actually read it.
[00:51:25]  Yeah.
[00:51:25]  Yeah.
[00:51:26]  And it's interesting to see there's a, you know, it's, I know people criticize libertarians for just living, you know, that's what, like, when they call us autistic or whatever, and just living in the realm of ideas and not in real life.
[00:51:39]  But so often when people talk about government, they live in the realm of ideas and not real life, you know, in the realm of like, well, government will help people.
[00:51:48]  It's like, okay, but let's like actually, let's, let's really live in real life and look at what they're actually doing and how it actually works and who the fuck can defend that?
[00:51:56]  Who can defend a nearly 6,000 page bill that hasn't been read and is now going to be voted into law?
[00:52:03]  And this is a stopgap.
[00:52:04]  They're going to, like, you can hear Schumer saying this is just for now.
[00:52:09]  You know, what was it, six months ago or whatever it was in April or March, they passed 2 trillion.
[00:52:14]  Now they've got this one, which they had said was 900 billion, but it seems to also be 2 trillion.
[00:52:18]  I don't quite understand where that extra bill or whatever is.
[00:52:22]  I don't even know what the requirements are.
[00:52:23]  It was like attached to another omnibus spending bill also.
[00:52:26]  So when you put all together, it was over $2 trillion.
[00:52:30]  So, but anyway, let's move on to the COVID stuff because it's worth at least mentioning quickly that everybody's been freaking out about this mutated strand of COVID that was found in England.
[00:52:45]  From all of the research I've seen on it so far, which is very limited because it was just discovered recently, it seems that they're saying it's easier to spread, but seems to be no less deadly than the COVID that we've all come to know and love.
[00:53:03]  So this is it's interesting because from my perspective here, the dynamic is basically that if this is true and that and this new mutation is something we're going to have to deal with, if COVID, let's say,
[00:53:17]  is easier to spread and no more deadly, doesn't that kind of start to point in the direction that the only reasonable thing that you could do with this COVID is just accept it and just accept that, you know what?
[00:53:35]  COVID's part of life now.
[00:53:37]  And life may have gone from being, you know, this risky to being this risky, you know, in the grand scheme of things is the risk we normally just lived with, plus, you know, a little bit on top.
[00:53:50]  Of course, there's tons of risks in life.
[00:53:52]  There's diseases you can get.
[00:53:54]  There's viruses out there.
[00:53:55]  There's, you know, unavoidable fatalities and all types of things, you know, that can happen to you.
[00:54:01]  And we all just kind of go about our life accepting that this is part of the deal.
[00:54:05]  This is part of it.
[00:54:06]  You could get hit by a car tomorrow.
[00:54:08]  You could get real sick tomorrow.
[00:54:09]  You could, there's, there's things you can do to mitigate some of the risk.
[00:54:12]  And then there's some things that you really can't do much to.
[00:54:15]  But, you know, you put one foot in front of the other and you keep living your life.
[00:54:18]  Now, it seems to me that that would be the reasonable response.
[00:54:22]  Doesn't look like that's what the response is going to be because we don't live in a reasonable world.
[00:54:27]  On that note, I had Gene Epstein on Run Your Mouth maybe two or three weeks ago, and he was explaining.
[00:54:33]  And here's the thing about Gene, he's really smart and he gets it right.
[00:54:36]  So go listen to that so that I'm not misquoting him here because I'm sure I'm going to get an email.
[00:54:42]  He will email you.
[00:54:45]  But Gene has a friend who is a virologist, whatever that fancy title is for the people that know this stuff.
[00:54:52]  But apparently this mutation is a direct result of the fact that we had the lockdowns and that the virus has mutated more rapidly because we didn't get herd immunity.
[00:55:04]  So this would be proof of the fact that the, you know, that the shutting down long term is not a not a working strategy.
[00:55:12]  So it's another, essentially, another unintended consequence of avoiding the herd immunity that would naturally come if we were just living our lives like normal people.
[00:55:22]  But it does, you know, it seems to me to say that like, you know, you would look at this and say, well, you know what?
[00:55:26]  The lockdowns really don't do much to mitigate the spread.
[00:55:29]  I mean, if you look at the number of like flu deaths versus COVID deaths since we've been doing this, the flu has almost completely gone away.
[00:55:37]  And the official story on that is basically that, well, the masks and the social distancing and all of this has tremendously slowed down the spread of the flu, but COVID seems to be a lot easier to spread.
[00:55:48]  Now, I don't know if that's exactly right, but that's what the official narrative seems to be.
[00:55:51]  It's reported flu deaths as COVID.
[00:55:54]  Right.
[00:55:54]  And so possibly that's the case.
[00:55:55]  But even if they're right, so then you're saying, okay, even doing all these things isn't going to mitigate the spread of this virus.
[00:56:02]  And now you're telling me this new mutation is easier to spread.
[00:56:05]  At a certain point, you got to just throw the towel in and say, all right, well, we need, we can't rob everyone of their life.
[00:56:11]  We have to go back to the business of being humans.
[00:56:16]  However, the situation you have now is that so many people have dug their feet in, have gone all in on, you know, COVID is the worst thing ever and we have to take all of these measures that in order for them to come to the conclusion that I just laid out,
[00:56:35]  they would have to acknowledge and, you know, the stuff you just said and all this, they'd have to acknowledge that we fucked you over for the last year, that we unnecessarily destroyed millions of people's lives.
[00:56:52]  And that's a very tough thing to have to admit.
[00:56:55]  And so they essentially can't admit that and have to just keep doubling down and going, no, no, no, we need more things.
[00:57:01]  We need more things.
[00:57:02]  Joe Biden gave a rare appearance just yesterday.
[00:57:09]  And he said this, which I got to say, it was pretty creepy.
[00:57:13]  And I think is indicative of what direction we're going in.
[00:57:16]  So let's check in with the vice president elect, I think.
[00:57:25]  But even with the changes and approach I'm going to put in place in late January, people are still going to be getting sick and dying from COVID.
[00:57:34]  One thing I promise you about my leadership during this crisis, I'm going to tell it to you straight.
[00:57:41]  I'm going to tell you the truth.
[00:57:43]  And here's the simple truth.
[00:57:46]  Our darkest days in the battle against COVID are ahead of us, not behind us.
[00:57:52]  So we need to prepare ourselves to steal our spines.
[00:57:56]  As frustrating as it is to hear, it's going to take patience, persistence, and determination to beat this virus.

=== Questioning Scientific Assumptions (08:41) ===

[00:58:05]  There'll be no time to waste in taking the steps we need to turn this crisis around.
[00:58:11]  But even with the changes.
[00:58:12]  Well, I got to say, that is pretty frustrating to hear.
[00:58:19]  It's one of the most frustrating things I've heard all day.
[00:58:23]  Joe Biden is out here telling you that it's going to be worse than it's been.
[00:58:30]  Now, what is he basing this on?
[00:58:32]  Just it's just, he says he's going to give it to you straight, and then he's just giving you something that's not backed up by science at all.
[00:58:38]  We have no idea that it's going to be worse going forward.
[00:58:41]  But that is already where his attitude is.
[00:58:44]  And, you know, there's say whatever you want to about Trump.
[00:58:49]  I just did part one of the legacy of Donald Trump with Scott Horton.
[00:58:54]  We're going to do part two later this week.
[00:58:55]  There's lots of negative things you can say about Donald Trump.
[00:58:58]  But man, his message about COVID after he got it, which was like, don't let this run your life.
[00:59:03]  Don't let fear of COVID ruin your life.
[00:59:05]  We've got great therapies right now.
[00:59:07]  Like, don't worry about it.
[00:59:08]  We got to get back on to the business of living life.
[00:59:11]  Such a better message than this Joe Biden's, the dark winter is coming, dark days ahead of us.
[00:59:19]  Be terrified.
[00:59:20]  Like, is that really what the American people need to hear?
[00:59:23]  Have people not been freaked out enough about this virus?
[00:59:26]  They've been more freaked out by this virus than any other virus in the history of the world, including like plagues that were actually wiping people out in huge numbers.
[00:59:36]  And so anyway, it's not, that is a little indication of what's to come.
[00:59:40]  This is where Biden's at.
[00:59:41]  And this is at least for the next few months, what the what the narrative is going to be from the government.
[00:59:48]  Should have voted for Trump.
[00:59:50]  Yeah, well, look at that.
[00:59:52]  Well, I guess I can at least rest confident knowing that my vote would have made absolutely no difference.
[00:59:58]  So sorry.
[00:59:59]  No one did.
[00:59:59]  They rigged it anyways.
[01:00:01]  Yeah, there you go.
[01:00:02]  It doesn't even matter.
[01:00:03]  If I had voted for Trump, they just would have found another 100,000 in a fucking in a box somewhere and dumped them on top of mine.
[01:00:09]  I saved Trump from further defeat.
[01:00:14]  Dominion's been throwing defamation suits at both Fox, Newsmax, and now Trump.
[01:00:21]  Fox and Newsmax, I guess, somewhat rolled back the reporting.
[01:00:25]  However, do you remember what happened this year with Johnny Depp and that defamation suit?
[01:00:30]  I don't think so.
[01:00:31]  He called Amber Heard, a newspaper reported that he was a wife beater.
[01:00:34]  And so he sued the newspaper for defamation and went to court, basically, and he lost the court case, which means that according to the UK, it's legal to call Johnny Depp a wife beater on account of the, and he got fired from a movie, still got paid.
[01:00:49]  Anyways, I'd be curious to see if they, if this defamation suit actually means that there will be some sort of a court case about how Dominion operates, because I guess you could potentially lose a defamation suit and actually look into some of the facts.
[01:01:02]  I don't know that it will fly out that way.
[01:01:04]  Well, one of the standards for slander is that it has to be false, slander or libel.
[01:01:14]  Like it has to be a false claim.
[01:01:16]  So you can't, you know, it's like, can't sue him for slander, the old saying.
[01:01:19]  If what someone's saying is true, then you can't, you know, sue him.
[01:01:22]  However, I doubt they're going to be able to prove any of this stuff with Dominion unless they have some information that we don't already have that's available to us.
[01:01:29]  But anyway, yeah, that's kind of interesting.
[01:01:31]  Something to keep your eye on.
[01:01:33]  All right.
[01:01:33]  We're going to wrap the show there.
[01:01:35]  Thank you guys very much for listening.
[01:01:36]  Go check out Rob's podcast.
[01:01:38]  Run your mouth.
[01:01:38]  Follow him on Twitter at RobbieTheFire.
[01:01:41]  And I got the end of year thing out.
[01:01:44]  Oh, nice.
[01:01:44]  Oh, you put it out.
[01:01:45]  All right.
[01:01:45]  Wonderful.
[01:01:46]  Yeah.
[01:01:46]  Go check that out.
[01:01:47]  And yeah, and we'll have part two of The Legacy of Donald Trump with the great Scott Horton coming out later this week.
[01:01:53]  Peace.
[01:02:05]  Like, one of the worst things that are going on in this country is a lot of stuff that's really stupid.
[01:02:09]  We're just not getting rid of it.
[01:02:12]  We never should have listened to this guy.
[01:02:13]  I'm going to give you guys the examples.
[01:02:14]  He's got multiple things wrong before this.
[01:02:16]  I don't know if you guys have seen this yet.
[01:02:18]  This might blow your mind.
[01:02:19]  First is avian flu.
[01:02:20]  He said 200 million people were going to die.
[01:02:23]  He predicted that chickens were going to come to our towns and peck us to death.
[01:02:26]  That's what he was saying.
[01:02:28]  You know how many deaths?
[01:02:29]  282.
[01:02:30]  He was just wrong.
[01:02:31]  Then he said swine flu, 68,000 deaths turned out to be 457.
[01:02:35]  He was just wrong.
[01:02:35]  Then he got all of England and stick about foot of mouth disease.
[01:02:38]  And firstly, if you're in England, what do you care about foot of mouth disease?
[01:02:41]  Mouths already look like feet.
[01:02:45]  Shouldn't be a concern.
[01:02:47]  Also, I looked into a foot of mouth disease.
[01:02:49]  Apparently, it's when Bovins do asked him out.
[01:02:52]  So did the research.
[01:02:55]  So here's the thing.
[01:02:56]  This guy gets all worked up about foot of mouth disease.
[01:02:58]  He killed 11 million sheep and 6 million cows.
[01:03:01]  Went straight up Hitler on these things.
[01:03:03]  Like, just fucking slaughtering them, right?
[01:03:05]  He doesn't even make a barbecue.
[01:03:07]  Think about how many sandwiches you can get out of six million cows.
[01:03:11]  That little kid is like, they're like, yeah, there's a pile of sandwiches right there, you dumb fucking orphan.
[01:03:19]  No wonder your parents left you.
[01:03:24]  So, anyways, this guy, he gets all that shit wrong, right?
[01:03:27]  And then people, they call him out for getting it wrong.
[01:03:29]  Some really smart people, Stanford scientists, they say, hey, he got the thing wrong.
[01:03:34]  You know why he got it wrong?
[01:03:35]  He was using an old model.
[01:03:36]  And we all know, don't use old models.
[01:03:38]  That's gross.
[01:03:40]  We all know that.
[01:03:41]  Now, here's the other thing.
[01:03:42]  These models, they always rely on crazy assumptions.
[01:03:45]  They tell you the end result, but they don't tell you the assumptions.
[01:03:47]  You start looking at the assumptions, there's crazy shit in there.
[01:03:49]  It's like people are going to spontaneously combust.
[01:03:52]  Other people are going to get so horny in the lockdowns.
[01:03:54]  They're going to fuck their dogs.
[01:03:55]  Next thing you know, you're going to have dog AIDS.
[01:03:57]  And in order to prevent dog AIDS, we need to start killing dogs.
[01:04:03]  That's exactly the reaction I wanted.
[01:04:07]  And you know why?
[01:04:08]  Because they said, don't question the scientists.
[01:04:10]  But if they told us we had to kill our dogs, everyone would be going, what the fuck are you talking about?
[01:04:15]  It comes to closing down people's businesses and ruining their lives, and it's don't question the scientists.
[01:04:20]  The point is fucking question people.
[01:04:21]  When did this become a thing?
[01:04:23]  Don't question.
[01:04:23]  Like, you start going, like, hey, don't question me.
[01:04:25]  Don't quite.
[01:04:25]  Like, that seems suspicious.
[01:04:26]  That to me is like, you know, you come home after a day of work.
[01:04:29]  Your spouse is like, hey, where were you?
[01:04:31]  And react like this.
[01:04:33]  I'm going to tell you nothing.
[01:04:36]  Ask me where I was.
[01:04:37]  How dare you ask me where I was?
[01:04:41]  You don't deserve to know where I was.
[01:04:43]  I'm going to tell you nothing.
[01:04:44]  Who are you?
[01:04:45]  Huh?
[01:04:46]  They asked me where I was.
[01:04:47]  Like, I need to tell you.
[01:04:49]  Like, nothing suspicious.
[01:04:51]  I just, I just don't feel like telling you nothing.
[01:04:54]  Stop asking me questions.
[01:04:57]  That's what they're saying.
[01:04:58]  Hey, not allowed to ask any questions.
[01:04:59]  No questions.
[01:05:00]  That's fucking weird and suspicious.
[01:05:01]  Here's how we solve this.
[01:05:02]  And I'm serious about this one.
[01:05:03]  I'm literally building a website to develop this.
[01:05:06]  I'm not fucking around on this one.
[01:05:08]  We need scorecards.
[01:05:09]  Moving forward, that's what we need.
[01:05:10]  News anchors, everyone.
[01:05:12]  Accountability.
[01:05:12]  How do you continuously get things wrong and just get on the news like you know what you're talking about?
[01:05:16]  I want this to be like an MMA fight.
[01:05:18]  Guy comes up on the news and you're like, this person was wrong 15 times before and he's cost the world billions of dollars.
[01:05:32]  But truth.
[01:05:33]  There you go.
[01:05:33]  Snow sput truth.
[01:05:34]  You know what?
[01:05:35]  I might even call the website that's not bad.
[01:05:37]  You're hired.
[01:05:38]  Developer guy.
[01:05:39]  You got money for this?
[01:05:42]  All right.
[01:05:42]  Here's the other wild part.
[01:05:43]  So we have the scientist.
[01:05:44]  He's been continuously wrong about shit.
[01:05:46]  He makes this prediction of 200 to 2 million people are going to die.
[01:05:50]  They shut down.
[01:05:50]  It's based off a faulty model.
[01:05:52]  It wasn't just the faulty model that got us to shut down.
[01:05:54]  Don't question the scientists.
[01:05:56]  They've got this incredible scientific standard that something, oh, I skipped the slide.
[01:06:01]  Yeah, this guy, you'd think he was a noble dude.
[01:06:03]  He had an affair.
[01:06:04]  He broke his own quarantine.
[01:06:05]  At least the chick was hot, but that's who we were listening to.
[01:06:09]  Anyways, the scientific standard is that it could help.
[01:06:12]  They're already floating this again.
[01:06:13]  This is Biden's transition team is talking about that they might do a lockdown because it could help.
[01:06:18]  And I'm going to point out that anything could do anything.
[01:06:23]  Me jerking off at the right frequency could open up a portal to another dimension where women with health cures fall from the sky.
[01:06:33]  Do you have evidence that it doesn't?
[01:06:35]  It could happen.
[01:06:36]  I'm at home jerking off for the betterment of humanity.
[01:06:39]  This guy's going to circle jerk with me.
[01:06:42]  We're trying to make shit happen.
[01:06:44]  What evidence do you have?
[01:06:45]  Okay.
[01:06:45]  Now here's where it gets really crazy.