Dave Smith and Robbie dissect the Biden victory and Bill Barr's resignation, arguing Barr was a "deep state" operative who shielded Bush-era crimes while Trump failed to prosecute Obama administration ISIS funding. They critique Trump's ignorance of governing details and note progressives were burned as Biden appointed establishment figures like Pete Buttigieg over Bernie Sanders. Ultimately, the hosts assert this transition represents a neoliberal tactic where elites secure profits through soft fascism, leaving corruption unaddressed under both administrations. [Automatically generated summary]
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We need to roll back the state.
We spy on all of our own citizens.
Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
You're listening to part of the problem on the Gas Digital Network.
Here's your host, Dave Smith.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
Libertarian Tupac Dave Smith here, joined as always by the king of the caulks, Robbie, the fire Bernstein.
What's up, my brother?
Nothing much, man.
How's your week going?
Oh, can complain, can complain.
Getting ready for that Friday episode where we really bring, where we really bring it.
Just cruising through a Wednesday, starting out a Monday, and then really get ready for Friday where all the action happens.
Yeah.
So, you know, doing what I can do.
How about you?
Nice green hat on today.
Thanks, man.
I'm also just getting ready for Friday.
Just getting ready, getting ready for those Friday episodes.
You don't have much to do this time of year.
We're about to get nailed over here with a big snowstorm, I think.
I don't know if it's going to fuck you up up there in Connecticut.
I like snow.
It gets me excited for ski season.
Yeah.
Can you ski?
Are the governors allowing you to ski this year?
It seems like something they would ban, even though there's no chance you could spread COVID at it.
So I looked at some of the mountains of Vermont and it was that same bullshit I was telling you with New Hampshire that there's right on the website, you have to reserve parking before you go.
You have to make like there, you have to make reservations.
And it says that you're not allowed to ski if you haven't quarantined for like 14 days and got a test.
But then they're also like, we're not, we have no ability to enforce that, but you lying to us may result in not being able to ski in the future.
That's the threat.
There's like, it's like this really weird shit that they do that almost seems just like to bitch you.
Like they're like, we need you to make a fist and punch yourself in the nose.
You're like, I don't see how that would help.
And they're like, we're going to have to watch you do that.
And then you're going to have to look me in the eyes and tell me you're a pretty princess.
You're like, what does that have to do with anything?
Like, just do it.
And then you can ski.
And people are like, all right, I guess this doesn't seem COVID related.
They're like, no, we're following the science.
I promise.
It's this dumb horse reliability thing where they get to claim, well, we told everyone they're not allowed to be here unless they quarantine for.
It's just all just dumb nonsense.
Well, it was like, there's been so much of it this year.
The one I always go back to that was just so crazy was like in when the weather started getting nice, like in June, and they'd be going crazy about people going to the beach.
And you're like, like the beach is the most, I highly doubt they can trace one case of COVID that spread at the beach.
There's nothing safer than going to the beach.
It's, we'd all be better off.
There'd probably be way less COVID if instead of being locked indoors, everyone had been locked at the beach.
What is it?
It's an activity where you're outdoors, the wind is blowing, you're fucking socially distant just by nature.
I've been to some beaches where it's really crowded before, like New York City beaches, you know, like Coney Island and shit, where it's like mobbed on a hot summer day, and you're never within six feet of the people next to you, even on the most packed beach day.
You have at least six feet away from the next person, just like your towel laying down gives you enough social distancing.
And yet they're like, you know, freaking out.
Oh my God, people are going to the beach.
Everyone's going to die.
Anyway.
So new rounds of lockdowns went into effect in New York and New Jersey.
I think several other states.
So Joe Biden's dark winter is upon us.
Get ready, folks.
And then there's other places like Florida, where it's just wide open.
Did you see that, by the way?
I actually, I did appreciate that.
And hold on.
Let me grab this because I had the pulled up on my phone here.
But yeah, so Governor DeSantis of Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, said Tuesday that restaurants will remain fully open despite COVID-19.
And he said, and this was his quote: He said, we've got your back.
If you're somebody who's a waitress or a cook or you're a family-owned business, you're an important part of our state.
You're working folks who are working hard to make a living.
You have every right to do that.
You're going to have that right defended by the governor.
Got to say that's pretty awesome.
And I don't know much about this Ron DeSantis guy.
I'm sure I would hate like a million things about him if I knew more.
You know, he's a governor, he's a statist, he's, you know, whatever.
I'm not like making excuses for him.
But in these times, you know, with government-instituted totalitarianism, it's pretty nice.
It's pretty cool to see one governor saying, like, hey, I think you have the right to work.
What a crazy, you know, it's so funny because people like us, you know, libertarians are, you know, talk about rights and, you know, been saying forever, hey, you have a right to the fruits of your labor and the government shouldn't be taxing you and all this.
And now we're all the way over at the point where I'm like, one guy's like, hey, you have the right to work.
And I'm like, wow, what a bold, impressive stand this guy took there.
But hey, you appreciate what you can get where you can get it.
And that certainly is a lot better than the shit the governor of New York has been saying.
One thing that's also kind of interesting, right?
New York right now has 25% more current COVID hospitalizations per capita than Florida.
New York is worse than Florida in basically every metric when it comes to COVID.
Florida is almost completely open.
And New York is basically been closed and fucking caught in this just completely like alternate reality COVID lockdown, completely incoherent policies, but it's been this way the whole time.
And Florida is doing much better.
And it's very weird that you almost never, even in the more right-leaning media outlets, you almost never see this case just being like hammered home.
And it's like, every now and then it'll get mentioned on Fox News, but not really even that much.
But just the fact that you're like, hey, guys, we're taking these drastic steps, but look at these examples where these lockdowns don't seem to do anything.
Did you see the, there was a report that was released by in New York with their contact tracing that they're doing, and they found that 1.4% of the cases could be linked back to bars and restaurants.
This is not how the virus is spreading.
There is no major impact on the virus by keeping bars and restaurants.
By ruining the businesses of hundreds of people, you can save 1.4% lives, Dave.
Well, the funny thing.
And we got to save everyone we can.
By the way, those people might even get affected other places coming and going for the rest of the world.
Well, but that's one point.
That's the point, though.
We can save.
No, but that's the point.
This is the fucked up thing.
The logic doesn't even follow that you're going to save the 1.4%, right?
Because if you have data that's showing that you're more likely to get the virus in other areas and you shut down these businesses and send people into those other areas, right?
Like, what are people going to do?
Go home or whatever?
That's where they're more likely to get the virus.
So that might even account for the 1.4%.
You're not even saving.
It's not even guaranteed that you're saving 1.4%, but it's really unbelievable.
And of course, this is just one more example of, you know, a ton of examples like this this year.
But the people are like, follow the science and listen to the experts.
And then they have the experts and the scientists come out with this fucking report that shows that, oh, only 1.4% of the virus spread is happening in bars and restaurants.
So what are we going to do?
Shut down bars and restaurants.
Oh, and by the way, if you question this, you're not following the science or whatever.
So it's just this madness that swept this country.
But it's really, I mean, it's just, can you imagine, you know, being one of these business owners and not the, you know, hundreds of thousands that have already failed and been put out of business, but, you know, one of the ones who barely managed to survive, just racking up debt until now to hopefully be able to open up and maybe we could pull this off.
And now they just come in and tell you, even though none of the science backs up this decision, we're going to shut down your business again.
Man, it is truly disgusting.
If that's 1.4%, what are most of the cases from?
Well, it seems to be that a majority of them are in the house.
That's where people are getting it, getting it from their family members who they're around.
I don't have that data in front of me, but that was a huge chunk.
I don't know if that was the majority of it.
Let me see if I can fucking pull this up.
Okay, approximately two-thirds of New York's current COVID is outside of New York City.
I'm not sure exactly what they mean by that.
Okay, I'm going to have to pull this up to look into it more, but I can tell you that it sure as fuck is not coming from restaurants.
They say approximately two-thirds of New York's current COVID is outside of New York City.
So it seems to be like in, I guess, upstate New York is where the cases are spreading more.
Anyway, all of this stuff is madness, but it's kind of cool to see some of the governors actually standing up for very, very basic freedoms.
It's interesting that you've seen.
So, over the last, you know, like decade, there's been a lot of people who are moving out of Florida, excuse me, out of New York, a lot of them going to Florida, going to South Carolina, North Carolina, a lot of people leaving California, going to Texas.
And a lot of this had to do with the fact that the state income taxes were so much higher in these states.
And if you're, you know, that's a big difference.
I mean, I know personally, I have a friend of mine who ran an internet company.
And he was, this is, this is years ago that he left, maybe, maybe might even be like 10 years ago.
But he's really smart guy, entrepreneur, always like kind of, you know, ran like several small businesses.
And he, so he was born in Miami and he moved to New York, went to NYU for college.
So the two places he had lived in his life were Miami and New York.
And he loved Miami.
That was where he was from, but he really fell in love with New York City, loved living here, you know, and he started a company.
This internet company really took off.
He was doing really well.
And he ended up moving back to Miami.
And I think a huge part of the decision for him, probably the major driving factor, was just the fact that like, you know, New York state income taxes were something close to 10% for him.
This is a successful company.
And Florida has no state income tax.
And I mean, that's like, that's a huge factor.
You know, it's like, okay, you just made 10% more profit if you move down to Florida.
And he was like, well, I got these two places that I love.
One of them will pay me 10% more.
It's an online company.
So he can do it from wherever he wants to do it from.
And so there's like, you know, it's obviously this very strong incentive to push people out.
And this has been going on for years.
And they try to come up with all these gimmicks to keep them.
Like if you start a new business for the first three years, you don't have to pay income tax and this, you know, crazy shit.
And now I'm just wondering over the next couple of years, you know, what type of effect is this going to have when this is so much more drastic than a fucking, you know, 10% tax.
This is straight up like, you're not allowed to do business here, but you are allowed to do business in this state.
They don't even see what they're fucking doing.
And it's, it's going to be devastating for these areas that are locked down.
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Anyway, any other thoughts on that?
Electoral College Stimulus00:13:35
COVID?
Lockdowns?
All that?
I think I saw that this year New York lost like $35 billion from all the people that have left.
And I've always found state migration to be really interesting because at least if you had more localized government, people can vote by moving.
And we're a form of capital.
And so it's going to be, I mean, what's the mayor is already, de Blasio is going to be out after this term anyway.
So probably most of the harmful effects that may or may not come from this, like he'll be gone.
So it won't really matter.
But it's important to see how these policies, like, look, look at what you did to your own city.
These policies don't work, which is, we talked about this before, but it's really important that these states don't get their COVID bailouts because they were going down either way.
Yeah, well, the, you know, the talk already right now is that the first thing Biden wants to do is a big stimulus plan.
And I guarantee you that they will attempt to put that into the stimulus plan because this is this is essentially, it was one of the major issues that Trump and Pelosi basically couldn't come to an agreement over, right?
Was that she was insisting that in this stimulus bill, we bail out all of these blue states.
And Trump was like, no, like, you know, and, you know, Trump's right on that one.
Why the fuck should these red states have to bail out the blue states?
They chose their policies, now live with them.
So you're right, but I'm not optimistic about where this is going because I do think that the Republicans will cave on a big stimulus package.
And, you know, that you just don't want to be seen as the one right now who's not trying to help people.
And of course, as always, there'll be way more corporate welfare in the bill than fucking welfare for people.
But they're going to try hard to sneak in these bailouts because the Democrats need it.
The Democrats need these blue states to be bailed out.
They can't allow what me and you are talking about to happen for them to be exposed as how much these policies have devastated their cities and their states.
Okay.
So one rather seemingly important thing that happened since our last podcast is the Electoral College voted and they voted for Joe Biden.
That was a fake Electoral College.
That was it.
Yeah, that's not the real Elector.
There's two colleges and that was the fake one.
Well, I got to say, it's getting pretty goddamn hilarious.
And I'm sorry, I know there's a lot of people who have high emotions on both sides of this, but if you can just zoom out and enjoy the show for a second, it's getting pretty hilarious that with every Trump loss, he just takes to Twitter and he was like, no, no, that was nothing.
The big one's right around the corner.
And now it's like the Electoral College voted for Joe Biden.
And then Mitch McConnell goes, well, that's it.
Joe Biden's the next president.
Nothing else.
And then Trump's right on Twitter right away.
He goes, This is all just a distraction.
No way Joe Biden's going to win this thing.
You're like, dude, I'm starting to think Joe Biden's going to win this thing, man.
I don't know.
Trump's like, you don't even know what College is.
I knew what Callie.
I should have you at College.
He was like, the Electoral College, that guy?
That's my friend Mitch.
He's a bullshitter.
He doesn't work for the Electoral College.
Yeah.
So it seems to me that that is pretty much that.
And Joe Biden is going to be the next president of the United States of America.
It's listen, I'm still really interested to see how Trump handles the rest of his lame duck.
I'm really interested to see how he handles, you know, being an ex-president who, you know, is claiming to still be the real president and all of that.
There's been reports.
There was one report that came out.
Let me actually see where it was that he was considering pardoning Russ Ulbricht, which would be amazing if he would.
That guy got completely just completely unfairly railroaded by the criminal justice system.
And, you know, it would be great if he pardoned him.
There's been talk about him pardoning Snowden.
I mean, So, with the talk of him, it was the Daily Beast reported that President Trump is weighing granting clemency to Ross Albrick.
He's the guy who founded the Silk Road.
He's a libertarian that literally, if you want to look into the case, it's just absolutely horrible what they did to this kid.
They gave him life in prison.
And it's just disgusting, a guy who's never committed a violent crime in his life, never did anything.
So, hopefully, that goes through.
Like, I pray that Trump actually does that.
You educate me on that one a little bit because the extent of what I know of that story was it was, I think it was a great Wall Street Journal article.
Like, he was sitting in a library and they said if he had just closed his laptop, they would never have had any of the evidence to prosecute him.
But they managed to grab the laptop while it was still open.
And Silk Road at the time was the largest, what do they call it?
It's not even the internet.
It's like the other internet.
It's the dark web type.
I really don't know enough about it.
I remember reading up on it a lot when it happened, but I don't know enough about the details of what Silk Road was.
But he basically created this like secure channel online that we're buying drugs.
But it wasn't for that.
It's just it could be used for whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like it's, but it's almost on the equivalent of like if you invented a telephone and then someone charged you because people called on the on the telephone to plan a robbery.
And you're like, I just invented the telephone, dude.
Like they could also be calling just to tell you that they love you.
But they start, they tried to blame him for everything that had come from it.
It was awful.
They tried to blame him with like some murder shit, like someone planned a murder on it.
And then that case completely fell apart and they just didn't even prosecute him.
Because he could buy your headmen off of it.
Yeah, but it never even happened.
It was like all bullshit.
And the state even ended up backing off of that fucking charge.
And then, you know, whatever.
If you want to look into the details of it, they're all out there online, but it's just horrible what they did to this kid.
They're also, there was also talk about pardoning Snowden and everyone's freaking out about it.
And I got to say, so like Clapper and Brennan and all of these guys are like, Snowden's a traitor to his country and you shouldn't do that.
And I'm really hoping that they keep talking because I think that's what could push Trump to do it is just to be like, yeah, look, Trump, look how much you'll piss off all your enemies if you fucking grant this guy, you know, a pardon.
So, hey, wouldn't that be a great way to go out?
Fuck them.
He's a free man.
He can come back to America, walk around, do all the shows he wants to, and just rub it in their face.
So hopefully, because that's what I think would motivate Trump to do it.
Not out of any like, this is the right thing to do.
I just don't think that's how he operates.
But anyway, so that's, you know, hopefully he'll do some of that shit.
We'll see what happens.
So the other piece of news that I told you I wanted to talk about on the show today because it kind of gets, you know, right at the heart.
I mean, we were talking about this recently, but it gets right at the heart of so much about the Trump presidency.
But so they announced that Barr, Bill Barr, the attorney general, will be stepping down, I believe, later this month.
See, I mean, you knew he was going to be fired by Biden anyway when they come in.
But yeah, so he's he's stepping down.
And there's something about it that kind of, I mean, we were, you know, I was saying this the whole, you know, for years now, but Barr stepping down and, you know, all that talk about how Barr was going to be the one, you know, it's like all it took was CNN and MSNBC saying he's Donald Trump's puppet and the Justice Department has been politicized and all of this.
And that was enough for at least a big portion of the right wing to be like, yep, he's our guy.
He's Trump's guy in there.
And there was all this talk about the investigation and how he was going to get to the bottom of what happened and the fucking, you know, the origins of the whole Russia gate hoax.
Well, he's stepping down at the end of the month.
And what did we really get?
What did we get out of it?
Yeah, that's the correct answer right there.
An awkward pause.
That's what we got.
And, you know, I told you guys from the very beginning, I got this one right for sure.
I mean, you know, I don't get everything right when it comes to like political predictions.
When it comes to like philosophy, you know, I'm right about everything.
But when it comes to this stuff, you know, it's hard to predict how things happen sometimes.
But this one was easy.
And I told you guys from the beginning, you know, it's like someone tweeted at me recently and was like saying, they were like, well, Dave Smith is he called this one right.
He's been saying that Barr is part of the deep state.
And I just, I responded by saying, no, he literally is.
It's not even like, that's not even like a controversial statement.
He is the deep state.
He's the definition of the deep state.
He was a CIA guy.
He was Bush's guy.
George H.W. Bush's attorney general.
He's like, that is what he is.
He's a deep stater.
That's, you know, and it's, it's, this is how they do it.
It's like they have these guys play different teams.
So he'll go over and he's a deep state guy playing on the anti-deep state team, but his job is to provide cover for them.
It's not to get to the bottom of this.
Barr was literally the guy.
So, I mean, he's like the swampiest creature you could imagine.
His father's the guy who gave Epstein his first big job.
Like they're all involved in this shit.
He actually wrote the precursor to the Patriot Act, the section 215.
He wrote the precursor to that in the 90s.
That was like, you know, it was justified under the war on drugs at that point, you know, collecting phone records and shit like that.
So, you know, even before the fucking war on terror was even a thing, they were just, you know, passing little pieces of the Patriot Act and justifying it based off the war on drugs.
Something else right-wingers might want to learn about the war on drugs.
You know, if you fucking hate, here's the fucking thing right-wingers need to understand, right?
Is that this shit, right?
Like, however you feel about someone doing drugs and you don't feel like that should be legal or whatever, it's like, okay, well, if you want to give the fucking government this type of power, now all of a sudden the government's going to violate people's privacy rights.
Now, if you allow violations of privacy rights, that shit grows and grows into what the fucking NSA spying has become today.
And if the government has that type of power, guess what's going to happen whenever you have some fucking right-wing populist rise up?
They're going to turn that spying apparatus on that person and fucking bring him down, just like they did to Trump, or at least fucking, you know, bog down his presidency for the first three years and make sure he can't do shit.
Um, so Barr, uh, you know, comes and Trump brings him in like a fucking idiot, and he brings him in and makes him his attorney general.
So the fucking, as we were saying on the last uh episode, what more proof do you need that MSNBC and CNN were completely full of shit when they told you that the Justice Department had been politicized and that Barr was just doing Trump's bidding and blah blah blah.
Barr knew that his Justice Department had a federal criminal investigation open against Hunter Biden through Trump's impeachment and said nothing, did nothing, leaked nothing,
just let Donald Trump sit there and get impeached for the crime, the crime, of asking the Ukrainian government to investigate Hunter Biden and didn't even mention that our federal government had a criminal investigation open against Hunter Biden.
Isn't that amazing?
Isn't you know, like, there's so much to take away from that story.
Number one, that Barr is not Trump's guy.
He was never, you know, working for Donald Trump.
Number two, the fucking intelligence community can keep a secret when they want to because there was not a word of this.
This has been going on since 2018.
There was not a word of this till after Joe Biden was elected.
No, none of this shit was leaked.
So, for all the leaks that came out in the Trump administration, oh, look at that.
It's they can really control when they leak shit and when they don't leak shit.
And then the third thing that is perhaps the most important is it just goes to demonstrate what a failure Donald Trump was when it actually came down to the task of governing.
You know, and I know that there's a lot of people who were went all in for Trump who are really, you know, upset right now.
And I get that.
I, you know, I understand why you feel that way.
And believe me, it's there.
There's a lot of libertarians who were upset with me for criticizing Joe Jorgensen because they got emotionally invested in her campaign.
So I understand people get, you know, people get emotionally invested around these campaigns, and it's tough to lose.
It's tough when they fail.
And Donald Trump certainly succeeded in fucking blasting the media and fucking, you know, driving every left-winger you know, berserk and fucking exposing the deep state and all this other shit.
Emotional Investment in Campaigns00:02:16
But when it came down to actually governing, the guy surrounded himself with the swampiest creatures you could imagine.
If he was actually serious about draining the swamp, what the fuck is he doing when his inner circle is fucking Bar and Pompeo and John Bolton?
I mean, I'm sorry.
That's just inexcusable.
There's got to be, you have to like be honest about this shit and go, yeah, man, this guy just fucking like, I don't know.
My guess is honestly with Trump is it's always just what you see is what you get.
He just didn't know anything.
He didn't know anything.
And he wasn't curious to learn.
So he just fucking, you know, he wanted to do so much winning.
And so he just put these people.
He doesn't really know.
They told him the right thing when he talked to him.
And that's that.
He fucking put them in.
And so, of course, you're never going to get anything really done.
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It's important, particularly for Trump supporters, to learn from what's going on here and what happened.
And the truth is that Donald Trump had an enormous opportunity if he really wanted to accomplish some of the things that he was saying he did.
And he failed.
He failed in major ways on a lot of different fronts.
Now, I'm not saying it's easy or it would, you know, there were certainly a lot of forces that were working against him, but Donald Trump needed to know more.
He just needed to know more about what he was actually doing.
And he needed to have some type of strategy that wasn't just dunking on CNN, which was great, by the way.
It was a lot of fun to watch.
And I am actually thankful he did it.
I think there was real value in that.
But Donald Trump, I mean, he, what you needed to do in these situations, he needed to prosecute some of the people from the Obama administration, prosecute their crimes.
And you would think he would fucking prosecute them because the crimes were against him.
I mean, not all of them, but a lot were.
And he was unable to do that.
He could have.
Donald Trump could have really just opened the books on so much of the shady shit that the Obama administration was doing.
I mean, look, dude, the motherfucker knew.
He knew about what they did in Syria with ISIS.
And I know he knew because he fucking told everyone about it.
And during the 2016 campaign, remember he said like several different times that Obama and Hillary Clinton created ISIS.
And then he'd get pushed on that.
And they'd be like, well, you don't really mean that he created ISIS.
And he would back it up.
Yes, they did.
They created ISIS.
They sold them the weapons.
They funded them.
They created ISIS.
And you know what?
One of the first things Donald Trump did when he got in there was he ended the CIA's program to sell weapons to all the anti-Assad rebels, right?
So not only did he know about the program, which was literally treason, it's like the definition of treason, supplying, you know, supplying aid and comfort to the enemy, al-Qaeda in Iraq and ISIS, supplying aid and comfort to the enemy.
And he knew about it.
He called it out and then he ended it.
But you know what he really needed to do was prosecute the people who did it.
And he could have, but not with Barr as your attorney general and not with Jeff Sessions as your attorney general.
You'd have to actually get someone in there who's interested in doing that.
And there are people out there who would have done that.
If you wanted to actually end the wars, well, he knew the guy to fucking appoint.
It was Douglas McGregor.
He knew that because he did appoint him as the highest advisor to the defense secretary, only he did it after he lost the election to Joe Biden.
The fuck is that?
He had four years.
And instead, he's hiring people like John Bolton.
I mean, I'm sorry, you know, for the Trump supporters out there, you can make the best fucking argument you can for why you think you need to support Donald Trump, but that shit is inexcusable.
It's inexcusable.
This was a real opportunity.
It's not too often that we get some fucking outsider, fucking billionaire in there who's actually saying that he wants to scale Scale back the military industrial complex.
It's not too often that you get that guy in the White House.
That was the shot.
And this is what he did with it.
And Barr is just, of course, the, you know, the latest and one of the easier examples of it.
But yeah, who do you think you should put in charge?
While you're being railroaded, President Trump, genius, President Trump, while you're being fucking railroaded and you've been completely sabotaged by the deep state, right?
I mean, this is like what we know at this point.
There's an attempted deep state coup against first a presidential candidate and then the sitting president of the United States, where the fucking the FBI is like lying to FISA courts to fucking spy on your campaign, where the top people at the Justice Department are sitting around, you know, musing over whether they should fucking, you know, invoke the 25th Amendment or go with a special prosecutor or how they should get you out of there.
They're fucking, you know, the deep state is trying to take down your administration.
So who do you think you should bring in as Attorney General?
Oh, let's go with a CIA Bush guy.
Yeah, that'll get to the bottom of it, Mr. President.
Great, great selection.
So that's what we're dealing with here.
And like, okay, he had some good people who had his ear, but even that, it's like, he'd be like, well, I'm listening to Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham.
Why the fuck are you listening to Lindsey Graham?
Like, no one made him do that.
No, no one made him do that.
No one made him fire Flynn.
No one made him fire Bannon.
He didn't have to get rid of all these guys.
Now, of course, there were forces at work there and there were pressure to get him to do that.
But what you needed was someone strong enough to be like, no, I'm not doing that.
Fucking take the hit.
Fire Mueller.
Fire Mueller and declassify everything.
We needed someone in there who would actually go for it.
And you know what?
On another note, listen, I fucking hope he pardons Ross and I hope he pardons Snowden and I hope he pardons everybody.
I hope he pardons Assange.
But you know what?
He didn't need to wait till his lame duck to do that.
And I don't even know if he's going to do it or not.
He could have.
And in fact, it would have been way more powerful for him to have done that right away.
Right away.
And this is, and it would have been easy.
It would have been the easiest thing to do it right away after he first got elected.
Pardon Julian Assange and let him go crazy.
Let them go crazy about how, oh my God, this is proof that he's colluding with Russia or whatever.
And then you can just attack the left from the left and go, what are you talking about?
He's a journalist.
He exposed corruption in government.
That's not my deal.
I'm here to drain the swamp.
That's what I was elected on.
Could have just come in like that and owned that position and then been like, look, even these good, honest leftists, they all agree with pardoning Assange.
What are you guys talking about?
And that's the same thing with he could have pulled all the troops out immediately.
And if they were like, oh my God, it's going to be a disaster.
He could have said, yeah, it's Bush and Obama's disaster.
Sorry.
Sorry, these guys started wars we never should have been fighting and you guys in the media cheered them on.
Now look at the disaster you caused.
So he could have done this if he was serious about this.
But the real problem with Trump was, I mean, he just didn't know anything and he didn't care to.
The guy's a genius at self-promotion, at marketing, at reading the room, all that shit.
He's like genius level at that.
But when it comes to actually knowing what's going on, he was a complete ignoramus.
And this is the thing where, like, you know, as I've said many times, you know, on the show, and me and you have laughed about, but it's like, I'll get, you know, there'll be people on the left who go, oh, Dave's just a Trump supporter and he won't admit it.
And then there's people on the right who are like, come on, just support Trump.
What are you doing?
Why do you bash him?
And it's like, no, man, I'm sorry.
Like, I can't support the guy who puts John Bolton and Mike Pompeo and Bill Barr in his inner circle.
I don't support that guy.
Like, that's just not enough for me.
Just trolling the media is fun, but that's not going to do it.
And I think people who are Trump supporters who are feeling the burn right now, and I get it, believe me, all of you guys who listen to this show, you know, I hate the people you hate just as much.
I hate all of them.
I think the Democratic establishment should be kicked out of the country.
I mean, for what they've done to this country over the last four years.
But we also got to be honest about what Trump did here and what his failings were and the bar resignation with nothing.
He's leaving now and he gave you nothing.
None.
We have everything we need to know that the Obama administration committed a vast number of crimes, very serious crimes, ranging from literal treason to treason in spirit, let's say, you know, something like trying to orchestrate a coup against the duly elected president of the United States, something like that, you know?
And what is it?
Who's going down for this?
Nothing.
Forget even going down.
How much of it was just fucking, you know, like exposed and then you use the bully pulpit to rail about it, to release all of the information.
He couldn't even get that done.
So these are, this is where we're left now.
And this is what's led to fucking Joe Biden winning the election.
Because and say all the issues with fraud aside, even on top of that, dude, there's no way if Donald Trump had come in and had really started draining the swamp, he would have fucking won in a landslide that they couldn't even steal from him.
He would have just, he would have dominated in his reelection effort.
He would have completely peeled the left away from like at least the decent part of the left away from Biden.
And of course, Biden is now engaged in the same thing.
He's playing those guys.
I don't know if you saw this, right?
But CNN was reporting.
It's pretty funny now.
It's like, cause, and here's another thing that I fucking told you guys.
But Biden, here's the CNN headline.
Biden told civil rights leaders in a private meeting that progressives' hopes for executive actions were way beyond the bounds of his presidential authority.
Yeah.
Biden's not coming in there to defund the police or do any of the fucking shit that the hard left wants him to do.
Biden, but what is he going to do?
Oh, yeah, he'll put a bunch of fucking Cheneyites in his foreign policy team.
He'll do that.
He'll fucking put all the worst of the worst and then brag about how he picked a black one, you know.
So that's what we're getting.
I got to ask you about Barr.
So I think everything you said, I think you're 100% right.
And I think the most interesting part of what you're saying is the fact that Trump didn't wield his power.
He came in and he should have done everything you said.
He should have shut down the investigation into him.
That's why you're there and you got to go ahead and sell those things.
And he wasn't good at any of that.
Barr did come in, though.
And for being, I guess what you might want to label controlled opposition, he did change from what Session was doing, that he seemed to, if he was representing the deep state, he was representing a different like division of the deep state that apparently didn't want to be as aggressive.
So the wins that he gave to Trump was he undid Flynn's prosecution.
He got Flynn out.
And he also stood by the end of the Mueller investigation to go, no, that was a complete and full investigation.
You guys didn't come up with anything.
He didn't let them try and sell it as that the fact that they didn't come up with anything didn't mean that Trump was innocent.
So he got rid of all that.
The stuff that he clearly screwed Trump on was that he didn't actually look into what Obama really did in terms of getting the Russian investigation kind of stuck on him.
You know, like they didn't really unwind any of that.
And then also this thing with on the election stuff, he didn't really look into voter fraud in any serious way.
And now the Biden thing, you know, almost appears to be a cover up.
So it's weird.
I don't know what, why do you think he even, I guess, took Trump's side on some of those earlier issues, even though it does seem like he wasn't, you know, really working for Trump on the biggest things.
Because this is how they do damage control.
This is the whole like playbook.
So if there's enough people, like basically what happened was the Mueller investigation was used to bash Trump over the head by the media for three years and to box him into a position where he couldn't enact what his stated policy intention was.
So what Donald Trump ran on in 2016, what he said quite blatantly was, wouldn't it be great if we could work with Russia to defeat ISIS and get the hell out of the Middle East?
I don't care about overthrowing Bashar al-Assad.
Let's work with Russia.
Let's make a deal with them and have good relationships with Russia.
And then we can all agree because Russia doesn't like the fucking terrorists either.
So we could fight them together and then we can get out and not spend all this money remaking the Middle East, right?
So they put him in a position when, you know, try to remember back to just all you heard on the media for three years was Trump-Russia collusion, Trump, Russia collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia.
So that what if Donald Trump had come out and tried to do a deal with Russia, what would everyone have said?
Well, there's your proof.
There's your proof that he's in bed with Russia.
So they boxed him into a position where he couldn't do it, right?
So, and in the process, they were able to bring down anyone they wanted to in his administration, right?
Because they just targeted these people.
And then it's like, oh, you're going to talk to the FBI for three hours.
And if you get any fact wrong, we're going to charge you with lying to the FBI.
We're going to look through your tax records, all this shit.
Got Manafort, got Flynn, got, you know, Roger Stone, all these guys, right?
So as they're doing that, now it's coming time and time.
It was the longest special prosecution.
You know, it went on for years.
And then it's coming to a close and they have nothing.
The whole thing is about to collapse on them, the whole narrative.
So enter Barr, who comes in and goes, you know, this is an outrage and we're going to get to the bottom of it.
And we're going to investigate this whole thing.
And then the investigation.
And by the way, the guy that Barr tapped, I'm blinking on his name right now, but the guy who Barr tapped was the same guy who was tasked to investigate the crimes of the Bush, George W. Bush administration.
So this is what they do, right?
Like with the George W. Bush administration, there's all of these people who are furious who are like, what do you mean he instituted torture and lied us into war and did all these things?
These are crimes.
And they go, you're absolutely right.
And we're going to investigate.
And then they investigate and they determine, well, while some unfortunate things were done, there's nothing criminal here that we can really prosecute anybody for.
So the role of the investigation is to cover for the people who were, you know, it's like if someone accused me of, like, if I was committing a bunch of crimes and I, you know, was guilty of all of them and people are like, they've committed all these crimes.
This is outrageous.
And you go, don't worry.
We've appointed Robbie to investigate what crimes I've committed.
And then you go, you know, while there was some gray area there, Dave can't be held responsible for it.
It's like that type of dynamic.
So Barr comes in.
He plays the role of the, I'm going to drain the swamp, former CIA employee, former Bush appointee.
He's going to come in here and drain the swamp.
And then what ends up happening is that that has the effect of settling people down enough to go, okay, it's being investigated and nothing comes of it.
And so this is the role that he's, and while he's investigating, they work this game perfectly.
The entire left-wing media is going, oh, my God, this guy's crazy.
He's just purging people on behalf of the president.
This is Donald Trump politicizing the justice system.
So they create this fight.
They let the people fight it out.
And then what ends up happening?
The elites walk free.
This is the, it's, it's the perfect, it's the essence of what the whole culture war is.
It's create this fight, get everyone fighting against each other.
And while that's happening, the big banks are walking off with their profits.
And so it's just this same old dynamic.
It's not even, this isn't even like a crazy conspiracy.
Like I said, just look at the history of who Bill Barr is.
He is this guy.
Culture War Dynamics00:06:11
And it's not like, oh, I think he's deep state.
He's deep state.
Look at his fucking, his track record.
Like, look at his employment history.
It's who he is.
So to me, more or less, that is the role.
And in terms of him like getting Flynn off, it's not so much that he got him off.
It's that the case against Flynn collapsed, you know, like it, and truthfully speaking, Trump could have pardoned him at any point.
So again, it's just, as I was saying, it's just, it was Trump's inability to wield power.
He just didn't know how to do it.
And he didn't know what people to put around him if he cared.
And I don't even know if he really cared, you know?
I really don't.
I think what Donald Trump always cared about was Donald Trump and winning and being a winner.
Now, now, all that being said, that doesn't mean there wasn't anything useful that came out of Trump's presidency.
And that doesn't mean that he wasn't, you know, better than some of his enemies.
And it doesn't mean that he can't ultimately have served a good purpose in many ways.
But this stuff can't be ignored.
You can't overlook it.
These were his failures.
And Trump had an opportunity that very rarely comes about.
And so you have to kind of be like, oh, you know, it's impossible to not look at it and go like, oh, man, but this could have been so much more.
This could have been so much more.
And I just don't think Donald Trump realized or cared enough to realize what his moment in history could have been.
That being said, I think he'll be a really fun ex-president.
I think they'll be, you know, he'll be really fun.
And for those people out there who are still holding on to the hope that something's going to come of this, that he's going to do something to fucking pull off this election.
I just think I think it's time to come back to reality.
That's my feeling on it.
Maybe I'm wrong and I'll be wrong and it'll be the most entertaining shit ever.
But I just, I think, you know, Joe Biden's going to be the next president.
They're going to install him, whether rightly or wrongly.
And in terms of cabinet positions for Biden, so Pete Budigej just got some transportation cushy gig.
Seems like Elizabeth Warren is the one who got shafted and that they gave the treasury to Janet Yellen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, listen, that's the other really interesting thing that's happening here.
And I have to say, I've been saying this for quite a while, but the fucking, the progressives who got hard behind Joe Biden are getting completely burned, completely burned.
They're just not a part of his team.
You got to kind of give Biden credit for, because you and I were saying it in the first debate, Trump didn't do a good enough job of pinning Biden to, hey, you said that you were going to take on these progressive things that everybody hates.
That's kind of what you needed to do: to go review the Democratic debates, all the loony shit that they said that they were going to get for people, and then bring that to the larger audience of the entire country and go, here's the loony shit that he's standing by.
Biden did a really good job of playing both sides where he managed to, I guess, give the left enough hope that he was going to, you know, run with these things that he never was going to, and then also not having to own up to the fact, even to like, you know, the conservative or the moderates that he had made some of these promises or at least alluded to the fact that he was going to carry that torch.
So, God bless him.
The salesmanship of that, that he managed to say nothing, do nothing in a basement, almost be perfectly neutral through and through.
Everyone could pretend like he was going to be something.
And, you know, now here's what you actually get.
Yeah, no, that's right.
And it's the truth is that it seems like a lot of the progressive base was driven enough by hating Donald Trump that that was going to get him those votes.
But it's, it is funny to see how this whole thing works out, right?
Because if there was any spirit of like, well, what the people want and what his own voters want, well, you'd think, I mean, the nomination pretty much came down to him and Bernie Sanders, you know, and Bernie Sanders looked like he was going to win it for a while.
Okay, you know, with some shadiness, Bernie Sanders didn't win.
But you'd think like, well, there kind of has to be some position you give Bernie Sanders, right?
Or a Sandersite of some sort, you know, like the, you know, Elizabeth Warren, I guess it would be, or someone like that.
And no, we'll find a position for Pete Buttigeg, the guy, you know, the guy who got like no support, the guy who had to drop out after, what was it, he dropped out after South Carolina.
That guy will get in.
Kamala Harris, who had to drop out way before that, she'll get a fucking VP slot, like all these people.
But Bernie Sanders, those people, they get nothing.
I would have thought Elizabeth Warren was the most bought, though, and that they kept her in the race to split the Bernie vote.
So I would have thought that she had been promised something for that, which apparently she was not.
I'm sure that she thought she was going to get something too, you know?
Yeah, no, no question.
I think Elizabeth Warning, Elizabeth Warren, poses as an Uber progressive, but is really of the establishment.
So I didn't think it was out of the realm of possibility that she could get something.
But nope, sorry, Poca.
Nothing for you.
Also, for I guess these progressives, it's not really about the policies.
It's about the fact that women and gays and minorities get all these jobs.
So even if you don't get the country you want, that's exactly what you wanted.
It's all these people were elevated to those positions.
So that's that's the attempt to buy off the left.
You know, that's that's how it works.
It's like, okay, well, here's what we can give you.
And this has been the neoliberal democratic establishment tactic for a while now.
But it's kind of like, well, you know, we're not going to end the wars, but you know what we can do?
Yeah, yeah, you know, more female bomber pilots.
Identitarianism to Eleven00:01:02
How about that?
Is that almost as good as ending wars, right?
It's kind of the same thing.
It's like, okay, no, you know, no more, you know, we're going to continue the banker bailouts, but we're going to have a trans black woman bailing them out for you.
Like that's, that's more or less the bargain that they're willing to make with the left.
Like, we will dial up identitarianism to 11 if you let us keep running our fucking soft participatory fascist state.
There's your deal.
And I got to say, far too much of the left has taken that deal.
But it's really disgusting how many of them are that easily fooled by all of this fucking, you know, identitarian garbage.
And, you know, but that's, that's where we're at, and we'll see where it goes.
All right.
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