Dave Rubin and Robbie the Fire outline a strategy to seize the Libertarian Party by promoting six key 2021 messaging points: immediate lockdown ends, halting foreign wars, cutting corporate bailouts, auditing the Federal Reserve, supporting armed self-defense, and resisting "the cathedral." This comprehensive apparatus includes the deep state, major media outlets like CNN and MSNBC, academia, and financial giants such as JP Morgan Chase. Rubin argues that attacking this interconnected control system is more effective than opposing specific politicians, predicting a left-wing split where disillusioned voters will embrace libertarian solutions to existential problems driven by state overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
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Roll Back The Big State00:12:12
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Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
What's up, people?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am the most consistent motherfucker you know, the libertarian Tupac.
He is the king of the caulks, Robbie the Fire, Bernstein.
What's up, my brother?
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That's great that you were able to move things around and make it work.
Yeah, there's some challenges to doing comedy these days, and particularly with the outdoor stuff.
That was never a concern in the past.
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All right.
So for today's show, what I was thinking we might talk about a little bit is, I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I'm taking over the Libertarian Party.
Did I mention?
I think it's come up before.
Brady Crack Freedom.
I think that should be our slogan.
Bring freedom back.
Make America free again or something along these lines.
But yeah, but in all seriousness, I'm taking over the Libertarian Party.
And as I've been kind of alluding to, got some really exciting stuff in the works over the next year.
We'll all be unveiled.
I think you guys are going to get really excited about it.
And you're doing it too.
You're taking over the Libertarian Party with me.
And I don't want to hear any of this stuff about how you don't want to.
I don't ask for much.
Okay.
Every now and then, I'm going to tell you that you're taking over a political party with me and you're going to do it.
Okay.
So that's what we're doing.
But believe me, you're going to be excited.
You're going to want to be a part of this.
It's, you know, the Ron Paul movement, the children of the Ron Paul movement are taking the Libertarian Party.
And everyone in the Libertarian Party should be psyched about it.
And you're a part of it, whether you want to be or not.
This is like eating your vegetables.
You just have to do it.
You know those memes where it's Rothbard in a car pointing a gun at you?
And he's like, get in, bitch.
That's it.
Get in, bitch.
We're taking over the Libertarian Party.
And by the way, for all...
I've never seen those, but that sounds awesome.
Oh, yeah, they're great.
And for all the people who are like, you know, Dave's threatening to take over the party, like, obviously, I'm not saying I'm going to show up with fucking AR-15s and fucking take the party by force.
I'm saying we're going to out-recruit everybody and force our agenda upon the party.
And also, I'd say I'm not trying to purge anybody out of the party.
But if some people want to self-deport, then I can't hold that against them.
If you or be less stupid, that should be an option too.
That is always an option on the table.
You can just be a little bit less stupid.
That's a complete option.
So someone was Somewhat critical of me the other day, a fan, but was saying, you know, I think you spend too much time complaining about the Libertarian Party's message and not enough time putting forward your own message, which I didn't completely agree with, but I thought there might be a little bit of merit to.
I don't like when people say, well, you're, you know, you're pointing out all the problems, but not giving any solutions, or you're complaining about the messaging, but not giving your own messaging or something, because I think that that's the first step.
The first step is realizing what the problem is.
And then after you realize what the problem is, you can try to solve it.
If you try to solve something before you recognize what the problem is and you have the wrong problem or don't realize what the problem is, then you can get yourself in a lot of trouble.
And I also think I have been putting forward my own message, but I heard what this fellow was saying.
And so I tweeted this out the other day.
Here is the start.
Okay.
This is my tweet.
Okay.
And I really should have run this by the king of the caulks before I just went ahead and started tweeting out the messaging.
Obviously, it should have come to your highness.
But so here's what I said: libertarians' message for 2021.
Okay.
Here's what I got that could fit in a tweet.
And number one, end the lockdowns immediately and open the economy completely.
Number two, end all foreign wars.
Number three, end all corporate bailouts slash welfare.
Number four, audit/slash end the Fed.
Number five, support self-defense by armed citizens against rioters and cops.
Number six, resist the cathedral always.
So that's where I would start with the libertarian message for 2021.
Okay.
Now, I thought maybe we'd go through these a little bit and explain why I think these are the messages that we need to focus on.
More or less, I'll tell you, my take on libertarian messaging is always that you hone in on the most important issues and you hone in on the issues that can resonate with a large group of people.
That seems reasonable to me.
So the number one issue, I just, I don't, I don't know how this could even be debated anymore, but the number one issues are the lockdowns, which are really a euphemism for government totalitarianism.
And when I say, I said, end the lockdowns immediately and open the economy completely.
So it's not just opposing the lockdowns, opposing all of the burdensome regulations and restrictions and guidelines and all of this shit.
Not we want businesses open with 17% capacity and all of this shit.
Let businesses open.
Let them figure out on their own how they want to set it up.
Let the paying customers decide what level of risk they're comfortable with.
Stop destroying all of these fucking small businesses.
We need to end the attack on the middle class.
One of the things you're seeing right now that's going on is that there are a lot of governors either flirting with or straight up going with a second round of lockdowns.
Gavin Newsom issued stay-at-home orders for large parts of California.
So they're straight up going lockdown again.
The other thing you're seeing, which really pisses me off all over the place, is these kind of like Biden said something along these lines.
And I'm sure you've heard this this 100 day of masks.
Well, right.
100 Days of Masks, but more specifically than just what the guidelines are, they're kind of saying this like thing where they go, well, look, if we want to avoid another lockdown, we have to follow all of these guidelines, which is really very thinly veiled, a threat that we will ruin your life unless you like, here's the compromise.
If you don't want your life ruined, well, then you can just accept totalitarianism.
You can just accept the fact that the government can dictate how many people can be in your home or business, how far away from each other they need to be, what, you know, like every little intimate detail about how you run your family, your business, your life.
Or we take it all away from you.
And we need to resist all of that shit.
People have been destroyed over these lockdowns.
It's the most naked form of government, you know, authoritarianism you could imagine.
And if you're for liberty, then you need to stand up against that shit.
Right.
Seems undeniable to me.
No more lockdowns, let people work, and the war on the middle class.
All good talking points.
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
And there's, and, and the other thing here, right, is that there's a huge opening because no one is really saying this.
Even the Republicans won't fucking really like come out in an unapologetic way and be for this.
So that's what, you know, this is what in a year when there's been nothing short of a war on the middle class.
That's, I think that's good messaging to be the ones who stand up for the middle class.
We get one of those like Uncle Sam things and we'll say, like, I want you to decide how to run your business.
Seems like a fair enough message.
Yeah, I completely agree.
All right.
So to the second one, end all foreign wars.
Now, why that is up so high on the list of priorities is because it's the worst thing in the world.
It's the most horrific thing that governments do.
No one even thinks about the terror wars anymore, but they're all still going on.
And Trump, you know, Obama promised to end them and didn't, expanded them drastically.
Trump promised to end them and didn't.
He didn't expand them as drastically as Obama did, but he certainly killed a whole lot of people, kept the worst of it in Yemen going on strong every single day of his presidency.
And so enough of this bullshit.
Americans, there is not only is it the worst thing that the government does, but there is a majority of people who just want to be out of these wars.
And despite the fact that Donald Trump failed on his promises to end the wars, there's still something pretty amazing about the fact that Donald Trump said he wanted to end all of these wars.
And the GOP base was more than cool with it.
Like they were like, yeah, they were cheering for him when he said it.
And that is, you know, there's a lot of potential there.
That's, that's enormously promising.
And so there's a huge portion, over 70% of the American people who just want us out of these wars.
And so that should be right there.
And particularly now, it's a very easy time to sell this.
You know, we have real problems here at home.
We can't be going around the world.
You know, like, what is there?
There's a problem of violence in fucking Syria.
Like, we're trying to deal with the violence in DC, in Chicago, in Baltimore.
And we don't, what the fuck are we doing going around the world for this shit?
We're also, you know, of course, spending, you know, trillions of dollars maintaining this empire.
So that's it.
And there's lots of ways to pitch this to both the left and the right.
And I think you could get overwhelming support for this stuff.
So that's number two.
I think just to make the policy a little bit more reasonable, maybe we can make it keep it to one war.
Like you can have one, you know, like maybe Afghanistan, or is that even a war anymore?
It's been going on so long.
Audit The Fed And Cut Spending00:10:28
You know, maybe just no new ones.
That's our message to the neocons.
We're like, listen, pick your favorite war and we'll let you keep that one, but you only get one.
And then you talk, you have to talk to a neocon like they're a three-year-old.
You're like, but I like them all.
And you're like, no, no, no.
I said only one.
No, I'm not even giving them one.
I'm giving them zero.
That's it.
The neocons have been very bad.
You've been very bad for 30 plus years.
You don't get any more wars.
No, you're going to bed without wars, neocons.
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All right.
Number three: end all corporate bailouts/slash welfare.
Now, come on.
This is the this year we've seen more corporate bailouts, more corporate welfare than ever before.
This is a slam dunk, easy issue for libertarians to dominate on.
That there's absolutely no excuse for this.
There's going to be this has mass appeal, and it's the worst type of welfare.
Now, right now, I don't think it's a great idea to focus on ending welfare for vulnerable people.
Obviously, libertarians are not for the welfare state, and we have to try to do our best to win that argument if it's brought up.
Don't hesitate from telling people the truth if you're asked about it.
But what we're going to start with and really push hard is ending the corporate welfare, ending the bailouts.
Because fuck that.
Look, when you bail out these big companies, it's like what was the old analogy that I think John Stossel used to use.
But it's like if you had a swimming pool and you're trying to take water out of the deep end to put in the shallow end, it's all coming from the same pool.
You're not adding any more water into it, but these redistribution schemes.
So if you bail out big corporations, you're bailing them out from the taxpayer.
It's not like the question is just in some abstract sense, should they get money or should they not get money?
You're saying you're going to take from the more vulnerable community and give to these giant corporations.
Fuck that.
We're against it.
This is non-negotiable.
End all the corporate welfare that includes the big banks, that includes fucking all the big corporations, all the politicians' friends.
Fuck that.
We're cutting that off.
It's a perfect libertarian populist message.
I think that strategy is reasonable where you said, hey, let's not attack the welfare of the needy, even though we don't agree with it.
But I think the argument there is basically, if you're asked, you can say, listen, yeah, I don't think government should be in the business of welfare, but let's start with the welfare that's going to these corporations that don't need the handout.
Let's talk about, let's take care of all this spending that is going to the military.
Yeah, we've got a spending problem.
So I'm going to prioritize that we're spending more money here to people that don't need this money and it's just corruption.
So let's end that first.
Exactly.
Even your biggest libertarians can agree on that one.
Yeah, it's just about an order of importance.
It's not about watering down your beliefs or compromising.
It's just saying, well, listen, let's focus on the most important things first.
And this is the most important thing.
First off, it's more money than the welfare for the peons anyway.
So it's saving more money.
It's cutting the budget by more.
And also, it's just, it's a message that everyone can actually get behind.
And of course, you know, it's just, it's a very complicated situation when the government has actually, you know, like Harry Brown said, when the government breaks your leg and then it offers you a crutch.
Well, we want to get the government to stop breaking people's legs.
But if someone just had their leg broken, to tell them to give up their crutch is a much tougher sale.
And it's not as important as getting them to stop breaking your legs to begin with.
Okay.
Number four.
Audit/slash end the Fed.
This is something that should be right up there at the top because it's like the most important issue.
And sure, it is something that a lot of people don't know enough about, but this is the power source of the entire apparatus.
This is where it all, this is where the entire system gets its power from.
The Federal Reserve is the reason we have this croniest system.
It's the reason we have an inflationary based economy, which screws over people on fixed incomes, retired people, working people, and to the benefit of the fucking speculators, to the benefit of the Wall Street casino.
And the Federal Reserve is the cause of the boom-bust cycle.
And this has to be explained to people.
And in this moment, where there's so much energy in the populist left and in the populist right, inserting the Federal Reserve into the conversation, it couldn't be more perfect timing.
And to anybody who's, you know, says, well, I don't know, the Federal Reserve is complicated and people don't know about it and all this.
It's like, look, Ron Paul had kids screaming and the Fed.
All you have to do is explain the basics of it to people and they will realize that it's like, all you have to do is explain how much these people are ripping you off.
That these people are ripping you off.
And you'll see how much excitement it'll generate.
And it just takes a little bit of education for, there's already a natural hatred for Wall Street and everyone goes, oh, I hate the banks.
It only takes a little education to realize Federal Reserve is them.
They are actually, that is where they're getting all their power from.
It's from the Fed.
It's from their access to the money from the Fed, the bailouts from the Fed, and the fact that the Fed is them.
The Fed is owned by them.
It's not really a separate entity.
So it only takes a little bit of education.
And there's actually something I think and the Fed has a little bit of a cool factor to it.
I actually think it's a fun enemy.
And so I think that's, I don't think that's that undoable.
The only thing I might criticize on that one, because I agree with them and the Fed 100%, Audit the Fed becomes an easier thing to sell people on because it just seems less radical.
And that's a really easy argument to make: going, Hey, they've given all this money over to Wall Street, we don't even know where it's going, we don't know what's going on here.
There should at least be an audit.
Really easy argument.
Um, the problem with it is like the Pentagon failed that audit earlier this year.
That story just went away and there was no consequence for it.
Like, there was like a budget audit, and they're spending way beyond their, but like, it just didn't matter.
So, I think the audit the Fed is the easier argument, and that's like an easy one to, but I almost feel like putting it in there might subtract from the end the Fed.
And even if you got that audit, it would take years before anything came out, and it would just get ignored, anyways.
Yeah, listen, you make a fair point, and that's why I had audit/slash end.
I'm open to arguments on both sides of that.
Like you said, there's pros and cons to both.
The pro to the audit is that it's more.
Look, we're talking about generating a message, opening people's eyes.
Obviously, these things are going to be very difficult to get done.
You know what I mean?
But the real value and audit the Fed is that they will resist with everything they have to it even being audited because there is so much more fuckery than even in the Pentagon that they just can't let this come out.
And so, I don't necessarily agree with you that if the Fed were audited, people would ignore it.
And then, if they are, it's our job to make sure they don't.
Um, but I think that there's when they resist even the Fed being audited, it kind of becomes a great demonstration of how secretive they truly are.
Um, and you know, again, it's not, it's actually not that hard to explain to people how much the Fed is them over.
Uh, and and you know, the truth is that everybody pretty much-I mean, I guess you could be only you know like 15 years old or something like that, but pretty much everyone has lived through at least one or two of the busts from the boom-bust cycle.
And if you can just explain to them why the Fed is the one who caused this, the Fed is the reason why you know that the economy is going to crash in a few years, you know, it is.
They create this artificial boom, and then the very real bust that follows, and people get destroyed, people get destroyed in the busts, and so that there's that.
And then, the other part is just to explain to people of like this is the reason why prices are so out of control.
And one of the major like things that really affects regular people is the fact that you know, very basic prices that are really important, like you know, the price of housing, the price of insurance, uh, the price of food, the price of you know, so many things are seem to always be going up.
A Path For Young Men To Own Homes00:02:59
Price of education, you know, always seem to be going up.
And there's it's all the Fed's fault, even if it's not directly the Fed's fault, and there's other government policies involved in it as well.
This is where the creation of new money gets flooded in.
And there's also a real argument to be made that this is, as we're going to get into the culture war stuff in a second.
But one of the things that I think only the libertarians really understand is that these things are not unrelated from the culture war.
They're really not.
You know, the left wing, when you look at the worst of the left wing, when you see these fucking like Antifa kids, right?
I mean, most of these kids went to college, you know, like these are like people who were propagandized in college for the most part.
Um, some of them are even college professors.
And when you see this and you see these kids just being violent and breaking things and being like super destructive and just being awful in general, well, understand what's going on here.
I mean, a huge part of this is that there's no path for them to a normal life.
There's no, you know, if you're some college, you know, recent graduate and you're in like $100,000 of debt and you're working at Starbucks and the price of a house around you is $500,000.
What are your prospects for like owning a house, maybe getting married, having some kids, living like a normal, productive life?
They're not great.
It makes it a lot easier for you to start like turning against this whole system and blaming capitalism for all your problems and all this stuff.
And so there's like, there's a real thing where and when the people on the right wing who are like, you know, involved in the culture war and they're so furious that we have this, you know, degenerate society and it's not a society of like families and values.
It's like all this stuff is really important.
This is actually the heart of it.
You want to have a healthier society where you don't have all these problems.
What you need is to have a reasonable path for young people to like own a home and get married someday.
There's also a lot of social science involved in this shit too.
The truth is that women don't want to marry men who can't provide.
There's a lot of evidence to back that up.
And, you know, have whatever feelings you want to have about that.
You know, that's the reality.
Women don't want to marry men who substantially under earn them.
And if you have some, you know, it's like the same thing where you see like all these fucking, you know, the problem of young violent men in the Muslim community, leaving aside, you know, the fact that the CIA is sending them fucking, you know, grenade launchers.
But the one of the major problems is that there's very little path for those young men to get a wife.
Taking On Culture War From The Left00:13:15
And this is a real problem when, you know, young men can't have that.
And the more that there's this kind of wealth stratification, the more this becomes a problem in our society.
And government policies are right at the center of it.
So I think it's a real important thing to because they let women go to college and take all the men's jobs.
So we got to take a stance against that.
Do I have this right?
But this is, you're, you're getting into 2022 stuff here.
I want to stick on the message for 2021.
All right.
So just there, we'll get back to that.
Don't worry.
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Okay.
Now, this is where we start getting into the culture war stuff, but I liked this line because I think It's a nice job of splitting like the difference and finding the libertarian position and all of it.
So, the fifth point is support self-defense by armed citizens against rioters and cops.
So, anybody who is violating your rights, who's violating your property or your person, you have the right to self-defense and libertarians stand with you in that right to defend yourself and your family and your property.
And I don't care if they're an agent of the state with a shiny blue badge on, you have a right to defend yourself against them as well.
Not initiate violence, but you have the right to self-defense.
And I think that that gets right to the point.
That is something, a message that both sides of the culture war can potentially understand.
And more and more, I think people on the right side of the culture war are realizing that, you know, Antifa and the riots and the mobs, they're a big problem.
But, you know, the guy who's shut, like, they're not shutting down every business.
They're not shutting down nearly as many as the fucking cops are.
And so that I think is right there for the taking.
You know, when it we can have clinic classes where you just learn and say things like get off my lawn and, you know, kick ass.
You just like, when you get your gun license, you also watch those movies to see how you should act as a human being.
And even if you don't get your gun license, just watch the movies.
You'll be getting a gun license pretty shortly after watching those.
You're going to get a gun.
You live out in Jersey now.
You doing that?
That is undisclosed information.
Nice.
But so I think that, look, the culture war, it can't be ignored.
It's got to be taken on by libertarians.
We can't pretend we're not living in the middle of like a hot culture war.
And what's important is that libertarians, when they wade into the culture war, and this is what we were so critical of Joe and Spike for, is you can't just dip your toe into this in a completely tone-deaf way where you take one side that doesn't even make sense from the libertarian position.
You know, something like, it's not enough to be passively not racist.
Like, what?
That's not what libertarians believe at all.
In fact, libertarians believe that's more than enough.
So you don't do it in that manner.
But what you all like, you don't really want to, if you're just going to jump in on one side or the other of the culture war, then you're not really serving any purpose as a libertarian.
You're now you're just a left-winger or a right-winger, in effect, you know, no matter what you believe.
So the role of libertarians is to not be better than the people participating in the culture war, but be wiser than them, to explain it to them almost as if you're sitting on a perch understanding what's going on here, not lost down in the middle of it, that we actually understand what's driving all of this and what's really happening here.
Number one, the biggest part of the culture war that libertarians need to drive home is that this is all a result of the enormous growth of the state.
Now, there's different reasons why that results in the culture war, but the most central one is that we're fighting over control of the state.
I mean, why do you think the culture war got so white hot in a presidential election year?
Because one side is going to win and the other side is going to lose and be ruled over by the other side.
And so it almost necessitates a culture war.
When you've got a government that's whatever, five, six trillion dollars a year ginormous, then of course, you, well, you're going to have to fight over who gets to control that.
Now, people have all types of disagreements on lifestyles in regular life, and they don't feel a need to fight a culture war over it.
You have, you know, like people who have different religions.
What could be more of a fundamental difference in worldview than, you know, like an evangelical Christian and an atheist?
You know, I mean, like, they have completely different views about what the hell all of this is, what our existence is, what our purpose is, what our obligations are, what happens after death, like the most profound disagreements you could think of.
And yet, you don't really see Christians and atheists duking it out in the streets of Portland, you know, because there's nothing really to fight about.
We're all free to, you know, you go worship Jesus and I'm going to go, you know, bang a hooker, whatever atheists do.
Anyway, the point is they don't have to fight.
But where do you have a huge fight?
Prayer in schools.
That's where you start fighting.
Because now the government is basically coming in and telling you one of you are going to win and the other one's going to lose.
Either you, atheist father, your kid's going to be taught Christian prayer in school, or you, Christian father, your kid is going to go to an atheist secular environment.
One of you guys has to lose.
You have to be dominated by the other one.
And of course, you saw bloody fights about this in the 90s.
This is what drives culture war issues.
It's always when the government gets involved.
And so if you want to defuse the culture war, if you want to die this thing down and not go into civil war territory, which all sane people should want, then the only answer is to smash the state, smash it into a million pieces.
And then we don't have nothing to fight over.
And then people can go about their lives.
You can live your atheist life and you can live your Christian life and you can peacefully coexist.
It's not really a message of unity, of you all have to be together.
It's a message that you don't have to be at war.
It doesn't matter.
You can peacefully coexist.
Go your separate ways.
The other thing that is really driving the cultural, the culture war is the woke shit.
And there's no way, I don't think there's any way to be in politics at all.
Forget just being a libertarian.
I don't think you can be in politics at all in today's day and age and not address the force that is wokeism.
And of course, I just use wokeism as a kind of umbrella term that encompasses cancel culture, critical race theory, meaningless accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, the usual stuff.
The old saying that I love, a racist is anybody winning an argument with a progressive.
I still don't know who said that, but it's a great line.
So I would say that it is incumbent on libertarians to oppose the woke shit.
But that's not enough.
You can't just oppose it because if you just oppose it, then you're just another right-winger and there's nothing that's differentiating you and you're not getting to the heart of what's really going on with the woke shit.
So obviously, I mean, like critical race theory and things like that are wrong and racist and incredibly destructive and also just stupid, like really, really stupid.
Like if it wasn't, if the woke shit didn't have as much control as it has, like if it didn't dominate academia and politics and corporate America and so much of just people's minds, it would be too stupid to talk about.
It would actually be too stupid to waste time on this.
Like we wouldn't have having a conversation about whether there's 96 genders would be on the level of like doing a podcast on the flat earth theory or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like we would just be like, this is too stupid to even waste our time talking about.
But it's so dominant that it's worth talking about.
It can't just be ignored, but it also can't just be opposed.
It's got to be explained.
And the message to the left has to be to whatever portion of the left can still be reasoned with.
Now, obviously, if somebody's just a cult member of the woke shit, you're not going to be able to reason with them.
But there are always people you can peel off and peel away.
And what you need to do to point out to the principled left is that this is a trick.
You've had the wall pulled over your eyes and you're too smart to fall for this shit because that's really what's going on.
You know, I think one of the big mistakes that people who oppose the woke shit make is that they will blame postmodernism.
They'll blame cultural Marxism, the Frankfurt school, and in general, blame academia.
And they certainly deserve some of the blame.
I'm not, you know, I don't know.
I've heard people like argue, like I know that Tom Woods just hosted a debate with Thaddeus Russell and Recton Walden and they were arguing over whether it's more influenced by the Frankfurt school or by the postmodernists that really lead to the social justice warriors of today.
I don't know.
It seems to me there's some influence from both of them.
There seems to be pieces from each one that are involved in today, but honestly, I don't really think it matters that much.
It's like, well, we are where we are.
But the point I'm trying to make is that it is letting the real villains off the hook to just blame academia.
Because who is really pushing this shit down the throats of Americans?
Who's doing it?
It's not just academia.
They're the smallest player when it comes to all this shit.
Who's actually making it so that regular people can get fired from their job or regular people have to go to these re-education diversity training, sensitivity training, bullshit?
Well, who's forcing it down everyone's throats?
It's big corporations and the government.
That's who's involved in it.
So the question isn't just why, you know, where did it come from?
What school of thought did this evolve out of?
The question, which I think is a much more important question, is why does the government and big corporations love this shit so much?
Why are they pushing this so hard?
What is it about this that they benefit from?
And there's a couple things, all right?
When The Left Exposes Real Problems00:13:15
The left is at its best when it's, well, okay, the left is at its best when it's opposing horrible government policies.
That's the truth.
The left is at its best primarily when it's opposing war.
That's the best that the left has ever been.
And certainly in the last hundred years, you know, that's the best moments, you know, opposing the Vietnam War, opposing the war in Iraq.
And secondarily to that, the left is at its best when they are accurately recognizing real problems, which good leftists do a lot.
Now, the problem with leftists is that their solutions almost always suck.
Not always, but when it comes to economics, their solutions always suck.
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When the left is at their best, they are exposing real problems.
And you see this even with Bernie Sanders, right?
Like there were certainly some problems that Bernie Sanders would point to, and me and you would fully agree.
Those are really big problems.
This is something that people need to focus on.
I mean, Bernie Sanders was pretty much the only one who really talked about how during the Obama recovery, all of the, you know, the vast majority of the recovery went to the rich.
And that's really true and really important.
Now, me and you may understand that the reason that that happened is because you had 0% interest rates and record high government spending at the time.
And that's going to inevitably lead to more wealth to the Wall Street speculators and the politically connected.
But regardless of all of that, he's talking about an important problem.
So keeping in mind that the left is at its best when they're opposing war and pointing to real problems.
Try to think this through.
What's been going on?
Look, over the last 10 years, the left has been, you know, this shit, this woke shit has taken over a huge portion of the left.
And it's been pushed hard by big corporations and by the government.
Okay.
So why is that happening?
Well, think about it like this.
15 years ago, the left was doing what they do at their best, protesting the war in Iraq.
The left was at their best that it's probably ever been in my life 15 years ago.
They were out in the streets protesting a war.
Okay?
Now, what was the left doing 10 years ago?
10 years ago, they were standing outside the big banks screaming, we are the 99%.
Now, is it really a conspiracy theory?
Or is it really surprising that in the 10 years following that, this woke shit has been pushed by the government and by big corporations?
This is to buy off the left.
This is to give them gestures, token gestures, rather than any of the fundamental change that they really wanted to see.
And the truth is, when you were standing outside of the big banks, you could have been screaming, we are the 99.9%, because it really ain't about the 1%.
It really ain't about the guy who's making 400 grand a year and runs a small business or some fucking dentist or something like that.
It's really about the guys who are controlling this unbelievable amount of wealth.
And of course, we're there to explain that they're doing this all through a fucking government-run system.
So the woke shit, so the way to fight the culture war is to sit atop it and be like, listen, you have to be wise enough to defuse this culture war.
You have to understand that this woke shit is just destructive garbage.
And Mr. Leftist, that they're laughing at you.
They're literally fooling you, pulling the wool over your eyes and laughing at you all the way to the bank.
You're not getting any of the shit that you really want.
Like the nature of government in its very essence is economic.
Okay.
That's not to say that culture isn't important.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that the very nature of government is who controls what, who has power, who controls resources, who gives out licenses, who grants no bid contracts, like all of this shit.
This is the power source of government.
And so they don't want to talk about the power source of government.
So what they do is they push this shit that throws the left off the scent of like the scent of, oh, the big banks have this whole system rigged.
It's like we throw you off the scent of that.
And now we're talking about microaggressions and white supremacy.
That's really what we need to focus on, white supremacy, you know?
And then they also like to have these fucking, you know, pit different people against each other.
So just to be clear, while the fucking left and the right are fighting in this culture war, what's going on is that the people in charge of the economic powers are fucking still raking it in.
So they're fucking laughing at all of you guys.
That's the message to the left and the right in the culture war.
You got your eyes on the wrong enemy.
Your enemy isn't the dude down the street who has a yard sign that pisses you off.
Your enemy are the fucking people who are raping this country, who have committed economic treason against this country.
That's your enemy.
Stop looking at each other and start looking up.
That's the libertarian message about the culture war.
Okay.
And the message to the right wing about the culture war is, and really I guess to the left and the right, but particularly to the right wing in this point, is that the only way for you to win is to dismantle state power.
It's the only way for you to win.
You'll never win otherwise.
State power will always end up favoring the culture that you're not on the side of.
And that you, the only thing, if you want to have a society where there are less broken families, where there's less degeneracy, where there's more, you know, kind of moral outcomes, the only way to get there is through voluntary market forces.
It's the only way.
And we have to convince them with that argument because it's a really good one.
And it's the truth.
We have the truth on our side, which is always nice, always helpful.
All right.
Was there more that I wanted to talk about with that?
All right, let's move on to the next one.
The final one that I put up there.
Resist the cathedral always.
This is important.
This is more of a separate thing.
It's kind of a mindset that libertarians should be in rather than a specific policy.
But this is something that all libertarians should keep in mind, to always resist the cathedral.
Never suck up to it.
Never worry about being respected by the cathedral.
The cathedral is your enemy.
If the cathedral respects you or has nice things to say about you, that is a surefire sign that you are losing.
You are doing something wrong.
Now, just to be clear, what I mean by the cathedral, at least from the libertarian point of view, is I mean the entire apparatus, not just the government itself.
Obviously, we oppose the government, but we also oppose all of the institutions and organizations that are basically the government, that are in effect government programs and government-run bureaucracies.
So when I talk about the cathedral, it's not just, you know, the Congress and the executive branch and the Supreme Court.
That's not all that we're opposing.
We're also opposing all of the secret services, all of the deep state, all of these other actors, all of the, you know, unelected spies and bureaucrats who, you know, are the cockroaches underneath the rug.
All of those guys, we're against all of them.
We also oppose the corporate press, academia, the big companies that are in bed with the government, all the crony capitalists, all of them.
It's the whole thing, the whole cathedral that decides where the allowable opinion rests, what is and isn't out of bounds, who is a respectable, decent person, and who is toxic.
We give a big middle finger to all of them.
We reject their view of the world.
We reject the entire matrix that they've created.
We're outside of that shit.
We don't care what they say about us.
We don't care what they approve of and don't approve of.
We have no interest in being invited to their cocktail parties.
We are here to fight them.
They are our enemy, all of them.
And they're all basically government programs.
And even if they're not technically a government program, they're still a fucking government program in essence.
Okay.
The corporate press is a government program in essence.
Pretty much all of academia is a government program in essence.
And you have these, you know, so you have these like institutions like for the, in the corporate press, for example.
It's like, okay, well, you could look at them and say that's a private company, right?
But if you're a private company like the New York Times or, I don't know, you know, CNN, and the New York Times is basically always the ones who get information leaked to them by the CIA.
And so this is why they're able to report on the CIA in a different way than, you know, anybody else is.
This is in effect a state operation.
If you're CNN or MSNBC and half of your staff are former national security advisors, NSA, you know, heads, CIA chairmen, all this shit, then you're basically you're this is the government, it's all part of the cathedral.
Obviously, the Federal Reserve that's part of the fucking cathedral.
It's not, you know, they can say that they're a private company, but it's like, yeah, you were created by an act of Congress and your chairman is appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate.
No, you're part of the government.
And for the same matter, Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase, they're a part of the government.
They're a part of the whole thing.
Even if they're technically considered private, it doesn't matter.
You're fucking your reserve standards are set by the Federal Reserve, which again is created by an act of Congress and the chairman is appointed by the president.
This isn't a private company in any real sense of the meaning.
This is part of the cathedral.
And that is what we are against.
That's what we oppose.
Isn't cathedral a church word?
I believe so.
Maybe as a Christian conservative, we can come up with a more derogatory term so people don't think we're offending religion.
Get Serious About The Establishment00:10:23
Well, that's interesting.
It gets into point six: be a Christian, which is, you know, so I figured that point six just kind of covered everything there.
Point six isn't really in it, guys.
That's just a little Jew humor for you.
Um, so that's my starting point.
I'm open to other uh suggestions, but that's where we start.
Now, listen: do you see a slight difference between my messaging and what the higher-ups at the Libertarian Party think are effective messaging?
Which one do you think is more likely to inspire people to get right to the core of what the major problem is?
I'm going to go, I'm going to go with mine, and that's why yours didn't make me feel worse about myself.
That is a good point.
Well, I could work on some stuff.
Don't be bald.
I'm out.
That's what I say.
How dare you?
Man, I recognize it's bald first and libertarian second.
Well, there is going to be, I think, tremendous opportunity in the next few years.
Just on, I think that there's no way to even.
I thought the Libertarian Party had a tremendous opportunity in 2016 and blew it.
I think they had a tremendous opportunity in 2020 and blew it.
And I think the opportunity is actually even growing.
And this is the thing that I'm really white-pilled about that I'm really excited about is that now you have a situation that I think is even better than before.
I mean, you have a situation where you've got, you know, obviously, when I say it's a better situation, unfortunately, it's like because really horrible shit is happening.
So I'm not happy that the horrible shit is happening.
But let's try to take a page out of our enemies book when they say a great crisis is a golden opportunity or whatever the fuck Kissinger and Rahm Emanuel said.
You have these lockdowns that are still being instituted, all of these totalitarian restrictions on the way we operate our lives.
You now have a huge swath of the right wing who does not straight up in a different way than ever before, does not believe in the system, does not believe in like has had their confidence in the whole state apparatus completely undermined.
And when I say that, I mean the cathedral, not just the state.
You see, there's, I was saying the other day, I was actually talking to a friend of mine, really, really smart guy.
And I was talking about how this situation with Donald Trump not accepting the results of the election is different than anything we've seen before.
And he said, but didn't we just see it in 2016 when Hillary Clinton, you know, basically was saying the Russians were involved and interference and all this.
And I was like, no, this is much different.
This is much more profound than that.
And the reason why I guess I never even really expressed this until I was having this conversation with my friend.
And I was trying to explain why it's different.
you know, why this is so much different.
And of course, the first thing I said is that, well, it's not, I mean, it's different in the sense that Hillary Clinton did accept that, like, even if she kept saying it was stolen from her, it's like she did concede the election.
She did call Donald Trump.
She was at the inauguration.
So being at the inauguration when Trump is inaugurated is at least in some tacit sense an implicit acceptance that this guy is now the president of the United States.
I didn't win and he did win.
You know, this is very different than that.
Trump's not doing any of those things.
But in a much more important sense, what's really different about this dynamic is that when what was it that me and you, Rob, would roll our eyes about when the left would call themselves the resistance under Donald Trump?
Well, what we were rolling our eyes about was that you guys aren't resisting shit.
You just don't like the guy at the top of this.
But because you don't like the guy at the top, if the CIA says anything bad about him, then you love the CIA.
If the Congress says anything bad about him, then you love the Congress.
If the corporate press says anything bad about him, then you love the corporate press, academia, Hollywood, everything.
You're not the resistance.
You're against one guy.
You put a different guy in power and you're completely on board with the whole thing.
The difference for the Trump supporters who believe that Joe Biden stole the election from Donald Trump, that there was widespread voter fraud in a concerted effort to rob the election from Donald Trump, is that they distrust all of it.
All of it.
They distrust the deep state.
They distrust the press.
They distrust academia.
And they do not recognize the president as legitimate.
That is a much more powerful mindset than just disliking the president.
They're not like, oh, you know, and they don't dislike the fact that, you know, the president is like undermining the noble office or something like that.
They hate the whole thing.
And so to me, that's a very powerful moment.
That's what's bubbling on the right.
And on the left, what's bubbling up, or what it's been bubbling up to some degree, right?
The kind of split between the liberals and the leftists, you know, Bernie Sanders versus Hillary Clinton.
But what's going to start bubbling up now, at least I predict, as I've been saying for a while, I said this on Kennedy a few weeks ago, that the hard left is in for a rude awakening when they realize that Joe Biden is not going to have a seat at the table for them.
Again, he'll have a seat at the table for woke identity politics, but he's not going to have a seat at the table for any of the things that the hard leftists really care about of substance.
And it's really going to be much more Dick Cheney influence over the Biden administration than there will be, you know, Elhan Omar influence over it.
So that's what they need, or that's what's going to lay the ground for there to be this kind of like a little bit of fertile ground over there.
What we're going to need, you can't give up on the left entirely.
Number one, it's way too huge of a swath of the American people.
Um, you have to try to find whoever is like winnable on that side.
And there are some, don't get it twisted.
There are some.
There's a whole bunch of people who were like former Marxists who are great libertarians now.
We can pull people over from that side, but you got to pull the people who are sick of the fucking establishment shit and sick of the woke shit.
And those people can be reached.
And so, anyway, I just think there's a huge, huge opportunity for the Libertarian Party.
And this is it.
This is it for them.
Like this time, you're not going to keep being handed golden opportunities.
This time, you got to be serious.
The Libertarian Party needs to look in the mirror.
I'm not doing any of this shit because I hate the Libertarian Party or because I hate the people there.
There's one or two who aren't great, but even truthfully, I don't even hate them.
I don't hate any.
There might be a few people who hate me, but I don't hate them back.
I'm doing this because I love the philosophy of liberty and I love actual liberty.
And that's the answer to so many of these problems.
And more and more, it's not just the answer in a sense of like, oh, well, you know, things would be better if we had more liberty.
It's the answer, like, this is the antidote to a fucking snake bite.
Like, we are going to die unless we have more of this.
It's that fucking important.
Okay.
So I'm not criticizing them because I, you know, I hate them.
I'm criticizing them because we need to get our shit together right now.
And for people who are in the Libertarian Party, who might be a little bit, what's the word I'm looking for?
They might be a little bit uneasy with my language of a takeover.
I would just say this to them.
Okay.
Watch Clint Eastwood.
Yes, go put on some Clint Eastwood first and foremost.
But let's watch his dorks.
Let's say this: nut check.
No, but this is the honest, the guy's honest truth, right?
You got to take a look in the mirror.
You got to think to yourself, why is it that we're sitting on this beautiful philosophy and we're seen as a joke by everyone, by everyone who knows who you are.
Though some people just have no idea who you are, but by the people who know, you're literally seen as a joke.
That is not okay.
There's no reason for that.
You're not a joke.
You're the most serious person in the room and everyone's seeing you as a joke.
Well, why is that?
Maybe there's something in the way you present this that needs to be done better.
You're seen as a joke by the liberty movement.
Forget even just the normies.
You're seen as a joke by libertarians who aren't a member of the Libertarian Party.
And so we got to clean, we got to clean that up.
No more being an embarrassment.
No more being a joke.
We are the most serious people in the room who actually have the solutions to very, very real problems.
Problems that will kill us all.
And we have the solutions to them.
So it's time to get serious about this shit.
The mecocks will rise again.
Takeover is in effect.
That's a great after.
Let's get serious about this.
Let's get serious.
So anyway, get in, bitch.
We're taking over a political party.
You're coming with me.
You're going to be very excited by the news as it starts to drip, drip, drip out.
And some of it's going to be dripping out very soon.
So look forward to that.
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