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Sept. 26, 2020 - Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith
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The Verdict Is In

Dave Smith and Robbie the Fire Bernstein analyze Ron Paul's stroke, the Breonna Taylor no-knock raid, and the unjustified Louisville riots while debating Black Lives Matter's tactics. They condemn Democrats' proposal to limit Supreme Court terms to 18 years as a "sore loser" tactic and highlight a leaked FBI document by William Burnett exposing the disorganized Michael Flynn investigation. Ultimately, the episode rejects the Russia collusion narrative and shaming Christians, arguing that changing rules after election losses undermines democratic integrity. [Automatically generated summary]

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Ron Paul's Last Stand 00:04:07
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Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
Of course, I am Dave Smith, and of course, he is the king of the caulks, Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
What's going on, my brother?
How you feeling?
I'm doing pretty good.
How about you, Davey Smith?
Doing good, doing good.
Can't complain.
I was very happy to just about an hour before we started recording this, see that Ron Paul tweeted out a picture of himself in the hospital, given the thumbs up.
So it looks like he's okay, which I was really relieved to hear.
For people who don't know Ron Paul in a live interview today on the Ron Paul Liberty Report with Chris Rossini, he suffered what seemed to be an apparent mild stroke, but who knows, some type of medical problem.
And he went to the hospital.
He seems to be all right.
It was really, really brutal to watch.
I mean, it actually made me sick to my stomach to watch it as somebody who's a huge fan and follower of Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is somebody who really changed my life.
He is the OG libertarian.
And I've met him and he's just a really wonderful person.
So it was hard to watch that, but I'm glad that he seems to be all right.
Anyway, so just wanted to mention that up top.
Also, which really kind of warmed my heart to see, Ron Paul was trending number one in the United States on Twitter.
And it really was just like an outpouring of prayers and well-wishes and all that stuff.
And it was kind of cool to see that there's still so many people who really respect and admire Dr. Paul.
So that was kind of cool.
It's, you know, it kind of got me thinking about the liberty movement in general and, you know, how fractured and all over the place we are.
And, you know, of course, all the stuff with the LP that I'm pretty regularly critical of.
But it was pretty cool to see Ron Paul still garnering that much respect and that much attention.
So anyway, there was that.
So hope he has a full recovery.
And, you know, if I know Dr. Paul, he'll be right back at it as usual, railing against the Fed and the wars.
He's probably already doing that as he's in his hospital bed.
He looked good in the picture.
A little thumbs up.
Yeah, no, he looked good.
And, you know, I mean, look, he's in his mid-80s and things like this happen.
But Ron Paul's a guy who's always been known for being in really good shape and a guy who really takes care of himself.
So hopefully he'll be fine.
And hopefully he's, you know, he's telling whoever his, like, he's sharing a room within the hospital all about the Federal Reserve and how big government has destroyed the country and good stuff like that.
So get well soon, Dr. Paul.
And yeah, it's cool that eight years after his last presidential run, there's still so many people who are who, who uh are, you know, who care about him and who are, who are still kind of, like you know, aware of his legacy.
Um anyway, so just wanted to start off uh the show by saying that.
Breonna Taylor Tragedy 00:05:37
So what I wanted to talk to uh, to you, about Rob, and to all you good people today is, uh, Brianna the Breonna Taylor, uh verdict, not verdict, but the the grand jury, uh results and um the rioting in Louisville and really around the country again.
This is, I don't know.
It's a lot to spark a riot, usually peaceful country and people don't usually go out there and start burning things down.
So that's how you know that's a really big deal.
People are out there actually going that far.
They're rioting.
Yeah, nowadays it seems like anything can lead to riots.
But Breonna Taylor was one of these cases that really seemed to become one of the central incidents that the Black Lives Matter protests and stuff were really talking about.
Breonna Taylor, the situation was a really, really tragic situation.
So this was in Louisville in Kentucky, and Breonna Taylor was at her home.
The cops had a warrant and came to her house because of her boyfriend who I guess was suspected on keeping drugs and money at her apartment.
Which is the kind of stuff you got to shoot people over.
I mean, we can't have people doing drugs.
You got to knock down doors, pull them out in the middle of the night.
That's like an act of rape.
You know what I mean?
You got to get in there right away and make sure that it's stopped on the spot.
Can't delay.
Yes, of course.
Why would you not want to bring this type of whole SWAT team?
Middle of the night.
Well, so there was some debate over whether or not the cops had announced themselves.
And then the conversation got into no-knock raids and stuff like that.
Now, there is one, I believe there's one neighbor who had testified that the cops did announce themselves.
As far as I'm like a yoo-hoo, anybody home?
Yeah, it's not the most relevant detail as far as I'm concerned.
But so the cops, the boyfriend shot at the police, shot one of the cops in the legs.
The cops returned fire.
It was one of these crazy scenes and Brianna Taylor was killed.
However you feel about the situation, it's a fucking tragedy, you know, and it seems to me that it's pretty reasonable to look at a situation like that and just kind of ask the question, like, what the fuck are we doing here?
Why would you have a situation like this?
Like, you know, to me, the idea of cops, whether it's, you know, government agents or private security or anything like that, the idea that you would send any group in this type of manner should only be done for violent criminals.
It just doesn't make any sense to create a situation.
Just violent criminals, I would think, imminent threat.
It's like, you know, if we don't capture this guy now, this thing's going to explode or he's got a knife around the lady's throat kind of thing.
Like, otherwise there's just no reason for it.
You're looking for trouble.
Yeah.
And what's weird, and again, I think this is a thing that only libertarians fucking have like a good understanding of is that if I like, if I were to say to a conservative, and I've made this point many times to conservatives,
if I'll say something like, here's why, you know, red flag laws are so terrible, because if the government's coming in with guns to try to seize your guns, you're now creating a violent situation where a lot like more people will end up dying or being hurt.
And this is like a terrible idea.
Like if someone has a gun and they're not, but they're not doing anything violent with the gun, that's their right, you know?
But then when you switch that over to drugs, all of a sudden, it gets like into a different area.
But this is obviously, you know, whether it was a no-knock raid or they did knock, the point of this is that you should just fucking get rid of the stupid war on drugs to begin with.
If people are committing violent crimes, then go after them for that.
The truth is that, you know, I don't know the details of, you know, I've heard some accusations that Breonna Taylor was working with her boyfriend and selling them.
It doesn't matter.
The point is that if you just legalize drugs, you would take away the incentive for people to exist in these black markets to begin with.
You wouldn't have to have situations like this where people's lives are put in jail and lives are put in risk.
And, you know, you wouldn't be putting the cops or Breonna Taylor and her ex-boyfriend in a situation like this.
And so it's anyway, it's a horrible story, no matter how you spin it.
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And so this became one of the big things.
However, granted that this is the system that we live under, and the fact that the cops had a legal warrant and the fact that they were shot at, I felt from the beginning that there was a very high probability that you were not going to be looking at any type of charges that would have satisfied the mob.
And unfortunately, that's just the way the system works.
But it's also not exactly clear that the right thing to do would be to charge these cops.
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Managing Police Hearings 00:09:37
I think something that right-wingers need to realize, I just tweeted something about this the other day, but right-wingers really, particularly seeing as how, you know, everything that's happened in the Trump years,
you know, when they see that Donald Trump, their guy, has, you know, went in on this like drain the swamp, you know, promise and has basically been unable to drain the swamp and the swamp's been fighting against him.
It's like, okay, well, if the government is so bad and the government opposes so many of the things that you believe in, you know, then maybe you don't want to blindly support the people who enforce the government's rules blindly.
Like, I mean, like, cops will arrest you for, you know, not wearing a mask.
They'll take away your guns.
They'll fucking, they'll do any of this shit and lose no sleep over it.
So just don't, if nothing else, don't blindly support them.
Like they're, they're not your friends.
And the vast, vast majority, like there are exceptions, right?
Like there were some sheriffs around the country who said, you know, I won't enforce these unconstitutional orders.
But that was like three.
Like there really weren't that many.
And you know, the thousands of others, they went, yeah, okay, we'll enforce this unconstitutional rule.
No problem.
No problem about that.
I just tweeted earlier today.
And by the way, this tweet was like, it was blown up and I was getting all types of shit.
And then I was like, oh, I saw Joe Rogan retweet it.
So thank you.
Oh, nice.
Thank you, Joe Rogan.
But it was in Idaho where they're literally arresting these Christians for not socially distancing as they're like singing about, you know, singing some Christian song.
I don't know.
I can't remember what they were saying.
The Christian conservative pop.
Of course we know that song.
It's one of my favorite hymns.
Yeah, no, I have the lyrics tattooed on my back, but I'm just saying.
But anyway, so it's like, so those are the guys, you know, like, and truthfully speaking, I think the Black Lives Matter crowd is doing everything it can to push right-wingers into supporting the cops.
And I get that.
I do.
But at the same time, just know that they're not doing anything.
The cops aren't doing anything to the people rioting, pretty much.
But what they will do is go arrest some Christians for singing.
As much as you don't like white people, when you see just two chubby Christians trying to sing hymns and get arrested, tell me that doesn't hurt your heart.
Come on.
Come on now.
But, you know, look, it's like, just know, like, what's what's really been proven in the last year is that cops will, and this is directly like a pitch to the right-wingers, because I don't really think I need to convince too many left-wingers to be skeptical of the cops.
But cops will, they will arrest you for defending your property.
You know, it's like, hey, sorry, that's the rules.
That's what these liberal fucking mayors want to enforce.
So you're going to be arrested now.
And like, okay, you can blame the higher up politicians, right?
Like, you can say, well, I don't blame the cops.
I blame the fucking politicians who wrote the new laws.
And the cops are just blindly following the orders.
Like, okay, but they're the ones showing up with a gun and cuffs.
They're the ones who are going to arrest you for defending your property.
They're the ones who are going to arrest you for, you know, whatever, having a gun that there was a rule against you having, which seems to be a violation of the Second Amendment.
They're the people who are going to arrest you for opening up your business when you were told you couldn't.
And as we've seen videos all over the place, they'll arrest you for not wearing a mask, for socially distancing.
And so just know that those guys who now you're like trying to side with, they're also not doing anything about the problem that you actually want them to do something about.
So they're not your friends.
There's plenty of reasons in this example with Breonna Taylor and just all over the place with lots of these cases where the reasonable thing to say is, hey, let's not like this is just so common sense, but you go, let's not bring force and escalation and violence to a situation unless we have to, like, unless it's something that's necessary to do.
And so anyway.
It kind of sounds like this is one of those situations where within the framework of the law, these cops didn't violate the law, but now we have to rewrite the law because cops should not be able to do this.
This should not be a thing that they're able to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's a pretty.
Which is, I think, and that's what Rand Paul was putting forward, right?
Isn't that the end no-knock raid?
He was trying to end no-knock raids.
And truthfully speaking, I think in this case, the no-knock raids or the knocking raids aren't exactly the core of the issue.
I really think the core of the issue is the war on drugs to begin with.
But I know Rand Paul's good on the war on drugs as well.
This is also, it just really strikes me.
And I've not looked through the weeds of this case, but it's just the common sense thing.
Like I was saying before, if a guy's got a knife to some lady and you realize like you can't negotiate, we're either going and making an effort or this is over kind of like that kind of a situation.
I get busting down a door.
Or if like this is going to be our one chance to get a few like a fugitive who's really killed a lot of people, I get that situation.
But it sounds like just about anything else, this almost reminds me of that Chappelle show sketch where they do the no-knock raid for the financial crimes, like just showcasing, and then they just call the drug dealer up to be like, hey, can we come arrest you on Tuesday?
But the reality of this, like, I mean, that sketch is so funny and so silly, but it's true, this drug dealer, do you really need to grab this guy in the middle of the night?
Like, what's the consequences for waiting until he gets shows up in the morning?
Like, it seems like you're bringing the incivility to the situation.
Yeah, that's right.
And on top of that, you get into a situation where like, I don't know.
You know, it's like with this exact case, I don't know.
I don't know who these people were.
I don't know exactly how the situation went down.
But in general, if somebody's coming into your home, and even if they're saying they're police, well, first off, it doesn't make much of a moral difference to me who's breaking into your home.
Right, but how are you supposed to know?
How do you know?
And it's like conservatives and right-wingers in general, like, how do you want to do this?
Like, do you want to have the Castle doctrine and stand your ground?
Like, do you defend that?
Well, okay, but then that also should be upheld against agents of the state.
And again, the example that conservatives are always good on, let's say to them, is like, just imagine they're not coming to take your drugs.
They're coming to take your guns.
Do you have a right to defend yourself?
And that's like that like you almost have to choose which one do you want?
So choose wisely because what you want is your gun rights and you want to be able to defend that.
It's like, okay, fine.
But then other people have their rights to their property as well.
So it's, you know, it's a horrible situation.
But of course, it's only made worse by everything that resulted from that.
So by the way, everyone knew too.
This is the thing that's kind of like sick about the whole situation is like that everyone knew that if there's not indictments, and there was one indictment against one of the cops for like recklessly shooting or something like that, but I guess they couldn't prove that his bullets were the bullets that hit Breonna Taylor.
So he didn't get indicted for like reckless manslaughter or anything like that.
But everyone knew that there were going to be riots if this judgment came down the way it did.
And it did, and there were.
And it's just, I don't know, man.
I don't even know what to say about this shit at all.
You can't make legal decisions about the fact that people are going to riot.
Like, that's just not the way we don't, we don't run the country based off mob rule.
We don't say, hey, if Trump gets re-elected, he can't be president because people are going to riot.
That's not called being civilized.
However, I would think that even the cops, the media, senators, politicians, you can manage this situation better if prior to the hearing, you actually explained, guys, we're doing a and not that bullshit.
We're doing a thorough review and we've hired this expert and we're going to counsel our cop.
Like, fuck that bullshit.
You got to come forward ahead of like this ruling and go, all right, systematically, this should not ever be able to happen again.
So we're changing the law.
I don't care.
Like, we're not even sure what's going to happen to these guys, but we need to make changes in advance to make sure that this situation doesn't happen again.
Because if these guys were in the right, the situation is still wrong.
So you could have preempted it.
Yeah, I just listen, that would be the right thing to do.
But I don't know if there's anything that you're going to do that's going to actually, you know, like trying to like logically negotiate with a violent mob is a tough position to be in.
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The truth is that I think they were like looking for the excuse.
I just don't believe, right?
And maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
But I do not believe that people who are out there just busting up businesses, starting fires, beating people up, shooting at people are doing it because they're so outraged about the injustice of what happened to Breonna Taylor.
I just don't buy that.
I think those people are doing it because they're just giving into their lower desires and they want to kick up some dust and fuck shit up.
And that's what you're seeing.
And it's terrible.
It's really, really terrible.
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Fucking uh, there's a goddamn war zone for the last couple days.
Uh, Portland, of course, it sparked back up in Seattle.
Mob Responsibility Debate 00:15:55
It sparked back up.
And there's there's also been like just a bunch of protesting around the country that didn't turn into shit like that.
But what did happen in Louisville was that at one point with these crowds started firing at cops and they shot, they shot two cops down in Louisville.
And this is this is a real recipe for a bad situation.
I don't know.
Did you see any of that video, Rob?
No, but that sounds, I mean, that's so tough.
If you're a cop and you're getting fired out by a crowd, then you start seeing how that kid was so good off his back.
But like, can you imagine that if you're a cop and you're just getting fired at and you don't know from where and there's just an angry mob?
How do you not just like fire back?
That's a tough situation.
Well, that's the weird thing, too.
It's like as they're kind of like as you have these protests and riots that, you know, supposedly are ostensibly about out of control police.
And I'm watching these police get shot at and not shoot back into the crowd.
And I'm almost kind of amazed at their restraint.
I mean, like, look, if you start shooting, if a group of people start shooting at you and you shoot back at them, I'd have a tough time not understanding.
Yeah, there's a, I mean, this is, I wonder what you think on this, but if you're a part of a violent mob and the people around you start doing something that you're not comfortable with and you don't remove yourself, you kind of bear some responsibility.
It's like if I'm surrounded, if I'm in a group, like a circle around a lady and then one of the guys decides to hop the lady and start raping the lady and I'm part of the circle that's kind of like, I'm involved in that.
That's not like, that's up to me to break it up or move.
That situation is not that much different than if I'm a part of a mob and people start shooting at the cops.
Like if I decide not to go like, oh shit, this just turned into a situation I don't want to be a part of.
You're still like choosing to be there.
So the cops firing back at you, like it was your choice to align yourself with a mob that's doing things that are out.
Like you're agreeing with them by being there.
Like you're in part, you're giving them the protection of like, I don't know, it's a tough kind of gray area, but I think the firing back on an angry mob where some people are firing on you, that is tough.
This is a gray area, but I could see why there's some sensibility to that and some responsibility for individuals to remove themselves from a mob if other people are doing something that you don't agree with.
Yeah, I mean, look, it is a tough kind of gray area, right?
In terms of like what the moral principle there is.
But I tend to agree with you.
I think if you're a part of a violent mob, even if you're not doing anything violent yourself, but you're in a situation where nobody could reasonably determine whether or not it's you or who else it is.
If you jump in a mob with 600 people and they're all throwing, you know, like, I don't know, 100 of them are throwing Molotov cocktails in the direction and someone starts shooting back at the mob.
I think it's like, yeah, look, within reason, it's kind of on you to get out of there.
So if this was a completely peaceful, you know, protest or something like that, and then all of a sudden it got violent, now you're in more of a gray area.
But when it's been violent the whole time and you're marching with them and you're arm in arm with them, yeah, if I have to side with somebody, I'm siding with the people who the mob is aggressing against.
Now, of course, you can also argue that the cops are siding with a mob who's aggressing against civilians all the time.
It gets complicated when you get into these areas and particularly with cops, you know, in a libertarian framework.
But truthfully speaking, I don't know, man.
I don't really want to see, you know, I don't want to fucking see cops getting shot.
I don't want to see people getting shot, but I don't like, first off, even if you accept the complete libertarian framework that cops initiate violence against people, yeah, I want to see that stopped.
But I don't want to see some fucking kid not have his father now, some wife not have her husband now, you know, like all this shit.
It just, I, and then on top of that, you're like, where is this going?
Like, what is this going to lead to?
I mean, like, all, you know, all you're doing now is pushing the cops and the community to side with the police being more violent.
And that to me seems like the inevitable consequence of all of this is that cops, I mean, now if you're talking about just shooting at the cops, well, how are they going to handle this going forward?
And you'd also imagine it's going to, you know, it's probably going to lead to a lot a lot less people wanting this job, which might be good, but also might be really bad.
It's not exactly clear.
I'll tell you how it results.
They sit out riots unless they're showing up with the AR-15s ready to be violent.
That's what's going to end up happening.
If you continue, then the cops will kind of take the line of like, listen, we'll go out there, but then we're fucking showing up with our AR.
We're not just showing up there to be standing targets, which is a reasonable policy.
It's like, we're either going out there as a show force to clear the streets and like, you know, we're labeling these people as enemy, or we're not going out there.
And there's something, there's something fair about that, the gray area of you have to be out there, but you can't fire back, or we're not actually opposing the mob or saying it's a violent mob.
It's mostly peaceful.
You know, there's a little bit too much fiction floating around that needs to be like kind of finalized and sorted out.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And of course, the other thing that they're doing is, you know, they're just terrorizing a whole bunch of innocent people and just destroying businesses, you know, beating people up, stopping cars in the street, just all the usual shit that they've been doing forever.
And I'm sorry, like this shit is completely uncalled for.
And I got to say, I mean, I posted, you know, something about this in the Mises caucus group recently, and I've obviously been talking about this for months at this point, but I just do not understand how any libertarian can support Black Lives Matter at this point.
And you can say that, well, it's like a decentralized movement, and these people don't represent the true Black Lives Matter.
Of course, the true Black Lives Matter isn't the Marxist organization or the violence.
It's just the peaceful protesters and all this stuff.
But I'm sorry, this is a part of it.
This is a major part of it.
These are the worst sustained riots in modern American history.
And they claim to be Black Lives Matter.
Like that's what they're telling you.
They are.
That's what they're screaming and spray painting as they commit all these acts of violence.
And so I don't think you can remove that.
And like that has to be addressed in one way or the other.
And like, I'm sorry.
It doesn't matter if you have if they have a legitimate grievance.
It doesn't matter if they have some point that, yes, what happened to Breonna Taylor was wrong or that these laws should be changed or cops shouldn't behave in this way.
That's really irrelevant to whether you support what they're doing or not.
You can be doing something in the name of a reasonable cause.
I mean, I thought that like, you know, like 9-11 was horrible.
It was horrible that these innocent people in the Twin Towers were killed on 9-11.
But I don't just say, well, because that's horrible, I support the war in Iraq because number one, Iraq didn't do 9-11.
And number two, more importantly, you're fucking killing a whole bunch of innocent people.
Like you were destroying a country that doesn't belong to you.
So I'm not for that.
And it doesn't matter.
Like it really has means absolutely nothing what you think the cops did that's wrong or whether or not you'd be sympathetic to a group who's fucking victimizing people who had nothing to do with it.
I hate the Fed.
I wouldn't kill a Fed director, nor would I think it's moral or justified, no matter how much or even take a general.
Like if I knew the general who was in charge of like, you know, I don't know, going to work, it's just not my place to go kill that guy.
Now, you can make the argument and go, oh, well, I know that this guy's responsible or going to be responsible for all these deaths, but morally, I wouldn't want that on top.
Like, I wouldn't want to make that decision.
Like, that's not, that's not for me.
That's not my role in society.
I'm not the jury, judge, executioner.
Like, yeah.
No, I agree with you on that.
And then this is an even harder case to argue because maybe you could make some moral argument about that shit.
But now you're talking about, I'm pissed off at the Fed, so I'm just going to go kill some dude.
Yeah.
If you're going to do it, at least dress up like Batman.
Well, yeah.
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But like, yeah, so, so, I mean, there, there were some arrests.
There's been a whole bunch more, um, you know, like fucking videos of this shit coming out now.
Just horrible shit.
Um, and I, I, you know, it's just almost like it's shocking to me at this point that it's even, you know, a question as to whether people should be supporting this movement that encompasses all of this, uh, this violence.
Although I will say, I have definitely noticed a change in where, you know, when I was like a couple months ago would be talking about the riots, I would get a lot more pushback.
Whereas now, even a bunch of people within the libertarian world who were like, oh, I was kind of supporting Black Lives Matter at first.
Now they're starting to see like, oh, yeah, this is like really ugly and this is not something I want to be a part of.
But of course, like this was pretty obvious from the very beginning.
It really, it's not as if like, oh, like the Black Lives Matter thing, you know, like the most recent, you know, in the post-George Floyd, you know, this year, massive protests.
It's not as if it's state, it was peaceful for a while and then devolved into this.
It was pretty violent right away.
I mean, right away in Minneapolis, you could see this was something really bad that was going to start.
And of course, it spread all over the place.
And, you know, that's now we're dealing with the results of that.
So like I said, also in Seattle, in the area that used to be Chaz, The rioters went back to there, went back there and just started setting fires.
Nice.
Because that's just, you know, how you respond now to Breonna Taylor.
I guess I'm not following exactly how this would help her in any way.
And in Portland as well, there were, you know, these huge huge protests.
And there's some videos of them like really going after people in cars.
They like chase down this one guy in a Prius who was later detained by police.
They're even going after people driving Prius now.
Those guys can't be the problem.
Yeah, I mean, right, like, right.
How much, how much systematic or how much systemic racism can you be supporting in a Prius, for God's sakes?
And then, of course, there are these other videos where, you know, people are getting hit by cars and shit like that.
But it's just hard.
It's hard for me to fucking, you know, feel bad when these people are clearly the ones who are threatening the drivers.
How do you feel bad for them when a driver ends up fucking running one of them over because he wants to get the fuck out of there?
Because it's like they do this thing where they're blocking the road and you've already seen a couple hundred videos of them dragging people out of their cars.
And then you're sitting there like, okay, they're blocking the road on me here.
So you have two options, which is basically you can sit there and hope that the mob decides not to fucking, you know, like literally like fucking beat you into a coma, or you can fucking drive through them and try to get out of there with your life.
And how the fuck can you blame anybody who in that situation would be like, yeah, I'm not just like hoping the mob does the right thing.
That's another thing to me that shouldn't be a gray area anymore.
And that like someone should just stand up and give the formal rolling, hey, any protester standing in a road that's hit by a vehicle, we're not charging that as assault.
That would be the end of that because then you would just make it the law that if you're trying to protest, blocking a roadway, people can hit you.
That would just be the end of it because they would get hit every time because now we've established wrong, right?
End of it.
But it's still in this gray area where you're like, shit, am I going to be like, no, that's why, let's just make a determination.
If you're in this situation, either we're saying protester, civilian right away, not allowed to hit them.
And then there's going to be some ramifications of people getting the shit kicked out in their car because they stopped and you might have to reevaluate that law.
Or you just go, hey, if a protester is standing in the road and it's clear that he's trying to block traffic for reasons of your own safety, you're free to hit that guy.
And then that's just the end of it.
Who's going to still stand in the road and try and block cars?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, listen, I mean, what you'd want them to do, right?
Like ideally, would be to say, like, look, we're fucking, we're instituting the Castle Doctrine and stand your ground in all 50 states.
We're not prosecuting anyone who defends themselves against a violent mob.
But it would, it's going to take more than that.
And look, in an ANCAP society, you would want private security to be protecting people and property.
But right now, we have a monopoly on security from the state.
And it's unfortunate, but that's the reality that we live in.
And truthfully, I mean, I know I got shit for this when I posted it at first.
I said the mob should be put down by any means necessary.
But I mean that.
And obviously, I don't mean peaceful protesters.
I'm talking about violent mobs, but violent mobs need to be stopped, period.
Like that shit cannot be allowed.
And we've allowed it.
And look what that's gotten.
So now it just hasn't stopped.
It's been going on for months at this point for a nation that already, before the violent mobs, had had its toughest year in modern history.
And now they have to deal with all this shit.
Stopping Violent Mobs 00:11:52
And so I don't know.
I mean, like, to me, the libertarian view is that, you know, initiating violence is not okay, but defensive violence is perfectly justified.
And so I think, like, you know, when I tweeted out that the mob should be stopped by any means necessary, a bunch of people were like, you mean any means necessary?
Like, a bunch of libertarians were like, look, I get what you're saying, but any means necessary, like, that's too far.
And I'm like, look, what I, what I, what would you suggest?
Less than necessary means?
Like, what is it that you're not?
And then people would really misconstrue this and they'd be like, well, any means necessary would mean you could do anything.
And I'd be like, no, I'm saying what's necessary.
Like, what's necessary to get it to stop and anything up to that point.
That's what I mean.
I mean, literally the statement, any means necessary.
And yes, I'm sorry.
Like, you can argue that it's like a right to protest or something like that.
It's like, okay, but you do not have a right to fucking set fires, to destroy businesses, to assault and terrorize people.
You don't have a right to do that.
And if you start doing that, somebody, some group needs to stop you from doing that.
And if it has to be the state, then it has to be the state.
Certainly not what I would want the solution of the problem to be.
But in the same sense that, you know, I don't particularly want the state to enforce any law.
But if somebody's a serial killer and the fucking state gets them, I'll be like, okay, good.
That's better than nobody getting that person.
And right now, this is really, I mean, just risen to a level where it's like something fucking needs to happen.
There were also, you know, riots in Los Angeles.
That's actually where the Prius video was in Los Angeles.
It was a fucking, you know, like the guy, the car was attacked.
He then, you know, hit some people and peeled out.
And they ended up, the cops ended up getting them a few blocks later.
But it's just, you know, the whole thing is a fucking shit show.
And I got to say, like, you know, look, this is only, it seems like only going to get worse at this point.
And this does seem to me to be one of those situations where unless there is something done, something like, and mobs can't be met with like, you know, this is the thing that people don't get.
Like mobs can't be met with ideas or arguments.
You know, a violent mob has to be confronted with force.
That's the only thing a violent mob will respond to.
And these things are going to continue and continue getting worse as they have been unless that happens.
So one way or the other, that's got to be, that's got to be the solution.
Now, the truth is, what's an interesting kind of dynamic with all of this is that the state and the individual states and the federal government and all of this, they could stop this.
It's just a matter of whether they want to or not.
And that's what's going on with Trump, where he's basically saying, look, my hands are tied and I have to wait for the states to invite me in, but we could stop this in a second.
Like we could go in there and just shut this whole thing down.
And so that's what's going on where he did this thing where they're declaring like New York and a couple other states is like anarchist, you know, fucking like anarchy has taken over.
And so they're trying to withhold federal funding to put pressure on the states to take care of this problem themselves.
I'm okay with that.
Well, look, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know if it's the ideal solution, but like something's got to fucking be done.
And they could stop this shit if they wanted to.
And yeah, it's like nobody there.
You can't have any type of freedom or any type of civilization when this shit is just going on all over the place.
It's got to be stopped one way or the other.
So, you know, we will see what happens.
But so far, it's not looking great.
And it's really not looking great.
But I do think that this stuff in a weird way is, man, this is like, if Trump does end up getting re-elected, which I think there's a very good chance of, I mean, he should fucking like he owes it all to these fucking Black Lives Matter riots.
That's, I mean, all, you know, you see these videos, like there was one in Portland.
This is all just, you know, from the last couple days, where they're literally just launching Molotov cocktails into a fucking group of police.
And like, how do you think that plays with most of the country?
Most people look at that and they go, oh, this is insane.
These people are animals.
And so Trump's going to get elected.
And they're going, or Trump, there's a very good chance Trump will get re-elected.
And then if that happens, there's going to be an uptick in riots like this.
I just don't see how anything else could happen if he does get re-elected.
And then we'll see if the government actually wants to shut it down.
But this is how this whole thing is going to be playing out.
So we'll see.
It's potentially a fucking scary environment, man.
Whole mail-in voter fraud.
Everyone's clearly gearing up for a fight and to contest the election.
People are already rioting.
Just fucking weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other thing that I'm literally just getting right now.
So it's just been posted.
Optimum's going to correct my cable.
This is huge.
Nothing on that.
Nothing on that front.
We're still, but we can hope.
We can pray.
And you know who we could pray with?
Amy Coney.
Amy Coney Beret, who is going to be Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court.
Geobroad?
Huh?
Geobroad?
No, She's a Catholic.
Got Cohen in the middle.
Huh?
She's got Cohen in the middle.
Coney.
Yeah, sorry.
I didn't mean to.
Coney's a fool.
That's what I say.
There you go.
Yeah, so she's like, she's, you know, he went with a woman.
And I think for obvious reasons, he's like, listen, whoever I put up there, you're going to call a rapist.
So I'm just going to throw a woman up there.
And then I don't think you can use the rapist angle.
So he's going to throw her up.
You know, I was looking into her a little bit the other day, but I don't know that much about her.
I know that she's, she's, you know, an interesting person.
She's like, she's got a whole bunch of kids, including a whole bunch of like adopted kids and one with special needs.
And like, she's a very, very Catholic woman.
And I think she is somebody, you know, I was kind of wrong.
I thought he would pick more of a moderate.
And I don't think she is a very, a very moderate judge.
So that's kind of interesting.
But now it seems like what they're going to do is make a big deal out of her Catholicism, which is another thing that's kind of strange.
But I think that they really don't have much else on this woman other than that.
And so I've already seen like little pieces being written about how would she, you know, would her religion inform her judicial opinions and all of this stuff.
And so they can go hard at her for that.
But another problem that they're going to face with that is that, you know, a pretty good portion of this country is Christian.
And now he kind of invites the, you know, the Democrats to attack her for her Christianity.
And so I think that might be.
Even non-Christians are non-practicing Christians.
There's something, firstly, I get it that religion should be separate from law.
But even as a non-Christian, I hate the idea of like, look at the fucking founding fathers.
Look at their religious background and look at the way that even though they kept it separate, there was like a little bit of a, hey, I don't think this is going to work without God.
And I hate that, the like the shaming of Christians or the, and I don't think, I think there's a lot of people that don't like that.
That's like a far left thing to try and look down upon someone for being Christian.
You know what I mean?
Like that's like, and to me, I don't like that flavor.
And I bet that even among, like, firstly, I think a lot of your typical Christian voters are going to be really turned off by that.
But I think even people like me see that card as being somewhat of low character.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I think there's going to be a lot of people who feel that way.
And it's something that, you know, like again, like 10, 20 years ago, they never would have even tried this shit because they would know that the overwhelming majority of the country would like react poorly to that.
Now, that may not be as much the case today.
It should be religious dissemination, like to make the claim that someone isn't able to fulfill a job because of their religious affiliation.
Yeah.
Like, because you could claim that of any religion.
You could say, how can like every, I mean, you could claim about anyone that they're going to put their faith first.
The other thing that's just inherently funny about that, this entire fight is over the fact that you're trying to get somebody in there that is going in with their predetermined beliefs.
And you're also trying to claim at the same time that that's not part of the judicial system, that people are bringing their inherent beliefs to the law interpretation.
The other thing I saw is that the Democrats are trying to change Supreme Court from lifetime to 18 years, which is such a sore loser changing the rules kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can even argue, like, maybe, I mean, there's an argument to that, like, right?
Maybe there shouldn't be lifetime appointments.
But when you when you propose that right after your justice dies, he served up until being damn near 90.
She's mostly dead.
Yeah, you're, you were never thinking about that in that time period.
You know, I mean, like, yeah, look, there's an argument that people shouldn't like say after 85 or something like that.
No one should really have a very critical job where you have to like think these things through, you know, and make very important decisions.
There's arguments.
I'm not even saying I believe that, but you guys didn't want to do that until last week.
So don't give me some fucking principled.
It's like steroids in sports.
You kind of come in and go, all right, for the health of the athletes, we don't want everybody pumping this in them till the very end.
You know what I mean?
We don't want people pushing their body in those limits.
So you might go, for the sake of the Supreme Court justices, we don't want miserable people showing up with cancer every day to just not give up their seats.
But like you said, you can't make that determination right after your person loses.
I mean, right after your person dies to start changing the rules.
Yeah.
No, no one likes that guy, the guy who plays the game and is losing and just keeps changing the rules.
No one likes that person.
Yeah, well, that's where uh that's where the Democrats are since Donald Trump's election, whether it's the Electoral College or you know the Supreme Court, whether they want to pack the court or fucking you know, uh, the change the you know, the tenure or whatever.
FBI Mueller Investigation 00:02:05
Um, okay, so one more quick story that I wanted to mention because this was somewhat interesting.
There's not that much to say on it, it's just more or less to pat ourselves on the back.
But there's a new document released by the FBI.
I don't know if you if you saw this, this came out just today, just this afternoon.
So, uh, this guy, uh, William Burnett, who um was worked for the FBI and he was also um he was on Robert Mueller's team.
Uh, and this document uh that came out, um, claimed that he was involved in uh the investigation of Michael Flynn, and he uh called the probe into Michael Flynn unclear and disorganized uh at the time while they were doing it and said that there was no evidence that Flynn was working with the Russians at all.
Uh, so it's just as we always get these drips that come out, um, and and it's really something, dude, that just every one of them get like confirmed what we were saying about this this whole Russia uh collusion bullshit the whole time.
Um, but just one more little uh drip right there of another guy being like, basically, as we were investigating him, we knew this was bullshit, we knew he had nothing to do with the uh um with with Russia uh and that this was this was crazy and there was no need to be investigating him.
And he was advising that they drop uh the investigation.
So, one more, um, you know, one more uh uh drop right from an FBI agent's uh mouth.
Um, so anyway, it's just you know, it's easy with all the crazy shit that's gone on uh this year, particularly to completely forget that at you know, the beginning of last year, uh, CNN and all these people were still pushing that Mueller is about to come in and unseat the president and he's gonna lead him and his family out in handcuffs and all this shit.
And uh, just how much bullshit that was the uh the entire time.
So, it's kind of interesting to uh to see a little bit more on that.
Dropping the Russia Probe 00:00:20
Um, all right, let me uh shit, let me see.
Okay, um, all right, I guess we'll wrap there, my brother.
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