Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - Righting The Wrongs Of The Past?
Aired: 2020-07-07
Duration: 01:05:35


=== Welcome to Part of the Problem (01:23) ===

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=== Kanye's Powerful Message Explained (15:24) ===

[00:01:24]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:01:25]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:01:27]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:01:31]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:01:37]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:01:42]  You're listening to part of the problem on the Gas Digital Network.
[00:01:46]  Here's your host, Dave Smith.
[00:01:48]  Hey, what's up, everybody?
[00:01:50]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:01:53]  I, of course, am Dave Smith, and I'm joined, as almost always, by the man, the myth, the legend, the king of the caulks, the fire, Robbie Bernstein, who's sporting a new haircut.
[00:02:06]  He was like, you know what?
[00:02:07]  These BLM protests have gone too far.
[00:02:10]  I'm coming out full Jewish neo-Nazi.
[00:02:13]  How are you, sir?
[00:02:14]  No, I shaved it to support the cause.
[00:02:16]  To support the cause.
[00:02:18]  Yeah, I feel like I wanted to let them know that I support by taking my own hair.
[00:02:22]  Yeah, wow.
[00:02:23]  That's like you tore it down like a Christopher Columbus statue.
[00:02:26]  You're like, this is a symbol of past systematic, systemic.
[00:02:31]  Sorry, people give me shit when I get that wrong.
[00:02:33]  Systemic racism.
[00:02:34]  Wow, that's very nice of you.
[00:02:37]  I don't know if I can still be king of the caucus.
[00:02:39]  I'm going full Kanye.
[00:02:41]  Oh, really?
[00:02:42]  I think so.
[00:02:43]  Well, Kanye is here to save the world.
[00:02:46]  Yeah.
[00:02:47]  I love it.
[00:02:48]  I'm still willing to license my name to the caucus, but they got to get their house in order a little bit.
[00:02:52]  The other night, I had to watch you on Facebook do a whole press conference about what's going on here, and that's that's very un-meat caucus of them.
[00:03:00]  They got to be full meat hawk again, and I'll relicense my name.
[00:03:03]  But for now, let's as much diversity as possible.
[00:03:06]  Let's break up the political parties.
[00:03:08]  Let's get Kanye in there, and we'll carve a path for libertarians.
[00:03:13]  So, if people don't know, by the way, Kanye West did announce via Twitter that he's running for president.
[00:03:20]  It was trending number one for days afterward.
[00:03:23]  People are going nuts over it.
[00:03:25]  And, you know, I guess at first it's just kind of like a funny little sideshow.
[00:03:31]  But in today's America, you almost, you know, you have to take a step back.
[00:03:35]  You go, wait, do I have to actually take this seriously?
[00:03:37]  And I know people will be like, well, he can't get ballot access and this and that, but that's not really the point.
[00:03:43]  The point is, if he were to try to run, even if he could only get very limited ballot access, it's not, you know, beyond the realm of possibility that that could have some effect on politics.
[00:03:57]  He's blessed by Jesus.
[00:03:58]  He's showing up with his sneaker money.
[00:04:00]  He's going to make it happen.
[00:04:01]  He's going to get rid of the bitches being gold digger problems.
[00:04:04]  This is going to be a new America.
[00:04:05]  Kanye's America.
[00:04:07]  Well, can I tell you something?
[00:04:08]  And I mean this, but obviously I say this kind of in jest.
[00:04:11]  And I tweeted out something, you know, like I was like, you want to really know how crazy 2020 is.
[00:04:18]  It's not that Kanye could win.
[00:04:20]  It's that he might be the best option.
[00:04:22]  You know, something like that, you know, and I obviously.
[00:04:25]  Well, I think it was clear that I was kind of being silly with it, but people were taking it really seriously.
[00:04:30]  Like I was getting fucking fucking retweets from a whole bunch of people who don't follow me, like a whole bunch of black people who were taking it real seriously.
[00:04:39]  And they were like, yo, this motherfucker's making a point.
[00:04:41]  Yay might be the best thing we got.
[00:04:43]  And like all these different things.
[00:04:44]  And then Gene Epstein emailed me and he tweeted at me.
[00:04:49]  And he was like, hey, would you, do you want to like do this as a debate resolution in the Soho Forum?
[00:04:53]  Like, I was like, Gene, I'm not actually supporting Kanye West.
[00:04:57]  Hell, I'll show up in Blackface to show my support.
[00:05:00]  I'm 100% behind this, Gene Epstein.
[00:05:02]  Well, you know, so anyway, I'm not, I am kind of just enjoying this, like for comedic material and entertainment value.
[00:05:10]  But I will say, in all sincerity, I find it, and it's something that I really hate about our society.
[00:05:20]  And I tweeted something about this as well, but how little people respect accomplishments and things that great men do.
[00:05:29]  And that doesn't mean you can't criticize people, you can't have disagreements with them, but the level of dismissiveness that people have towards someone like Kanye.
[00:05:39]  And it reminds me of with Trump, to be honest, you know, the same thing.
[00:05:43]  Now, I did on my OnlyFans page, if you want to go check that out, I did a review of Dave Chappelle's special, his recent special, and I was very critical of a lot of it, even though I'm a huge Dave Chappelle fan.
[00:05:56]  But one point he made in the, what was it, the 856 or something like that, whatever his latest special was.
[00:06:07]  One of the points he made that I thought was a really great point, and I really liked it.
[00:06:10]  And I said so in the review, was when he was talking about how Laura Ingram told LeBron James to shut up and dribble when he was like making some political point.
[00:06:21]  And he was like, you know, LeBron James is the best at what he does.
[00:06:25]  This is somebody who is on Sports Illustrated at 17 and never disappointed.
[00:06:31]  You know, like that's, that's really impressive.
[00:06:33]  And if he wants to say something, like, yeah, it makes sense that people would kind of listen to what he says.
[00:06:39]  Now, you can say, okay, he's, he's known for athletics, but you still have to be a really strong-willed person to make it to the level that LeBron James.
[00:06:49]  There's a lot of really talented athletes who don't go anywhere near to that level, you know?
[00:06:54]  And certainly, like, one of the examples people used to use when I was a kid, but I think it's a really good one, is like Clyde Drexler was just about as athletic as Michael Jordan.
[00:07:05]  He was a super athlete.
[00:07:07]  But the reason Jordan's Jordan is that he not only had that athletic ability, but he had a fucking mind to like win and get things done.
[00:07:15]  And just, you know.
[00:07:17]  So I'm interested to hear from people who have accomplished a lot.
[00:07:22]  And it's really funny to watch, you know, like I tweeted something out about this where it's like people who have six roommates will confidently call Kanye West stupid.
[00:07:33]  Well, they know how to get along with people.
[00:07:35]  More than six people you don't like.
[00:07:38]  Who's got more diplomacy skills than them?
[00:07:40]  Kanye might have six roommates, but it's his posse and it's in some type of mansion or something like that.
[00:07:45]  But you know what I'm saying?
[00:07:46]  It's like people who have accomplished nothing just calling someone else stupid or, oh, what an idiot this guy is.
[00:07:52]  And I remember thinking that when Trump first came onto the political scene, he started his campaign.
[00:07:58]  And people would be like, oh my God, he's such an idiot.
[00:08:01]  And you just be sitting there, and particularly like people in the comedy scene, like open micers would be calling like Trump an idiot, who I know these guys.
[00:08:10]  It's like you will literally go work for a drink ticket and Donald Trump ran a billion dollar company in real estate developing.
[00:08:21]  He wrote a book that goes to number one on the NEW YORK Times bestseller list.
[00:08:26]  Then he started a tv show that becomes the most popular tv show in America.
[00:08:30]  Then he dipped his toe into politics and, on his first shot, became president of the United States Of America.
[00:08:37]  And you're doing seven minutes for a drink ticket, but you're very confidently calling this guy stupid.
[00:08:43]  Just something about that just seems like I don't know, some self-reflection might be in order here, like maybe maybe, and I just in general I think that like it's one of the things I I like a lot about Ayn Rand and and I just I think there there should be a certain respect level for people who accomplish things.
[00:09:00]  And you know, I mean i'm sure i'm guilty of this in some way and and everybody is, but there it's an interesting, you know, dynamic that men will just insult men who have accomplished more than they ever will uh, in their lives.
[00:09:14]  And again, it's not that you can't insult them or criticize them, but to to dismiss them as like stupid.
[00:09:21]  Uh, to me I don't know, it's not only that, it rings hollow, there's an element in there where it's kind of like, oh yeah, it's.
[00:09:30]  Isn't life a lot more comfortable now, if you can just dismiss all these people you know as stupid who have accomplished more than you ever will, that seems convenient.
[00:09:38]  Um, I agree a hundred percent.
[00:09:41]  But then I also think that some people are the right kind of stupid and uh, maybe that confidence is not the best attribute by which we should listen to people.
[00:09:51]  I'm more interested in track records and performance.
[00:09:54]  But everyone else is stupid and so they go.
[00:09:56]  Well, he seems to really believe in what he's saying, so I bet he knows something.
[00:10:00]  I don't, and sometimes those people are just the right kind of stupid.
[00:10:03]  Like Trump really believes.
[00:10:05]  Like when he made that dumb comment about like aerosol cans in people's lungs, he honestly believed that he might be able to come up with a solution that, like the world's health experts haven't thought of.
[00:10:15]  Because he's Trump, he just might be able to come up with something.
[00:10:17]  Yeah, no question, both Trump and Kanye have that, that level of confidence.
[00:10:22]  That's just you know, out of this world, and that is something that very successful people all often have.
[00:10:28]  That they believe, you know, without even without one inch of self-doubt, that they're like I might just come to a solution that medical experts can't come to.
[00:10:41]  I want to give the Kanye a pitch.
[00:10:43]  First, how great will it be to see Obama have to campaign for Biden against Kanye?
[00:10:50]  Just process what that might look like of going that Biden is the better progressive and the better representative for the black community than Kanye and that Kanye shouldn't okay.
[00:11:00]  So firstly, that's fun.
[00:11:02]  Second is he's now the fuck.
[00:11:04]  You vote of 2020, so that if you want to stand up and go, well, just fuck this fucking system.
[00:11:09]  I mean, he's a much better fuck you vote than Trump ever was because I couldn't get behind Trump's you thing because he seemed like a little bit like you could buy into him as a political figure.
[00:11:18]  Kanye seems so far out of left field that this is like an even better fuck you.
[00:11:23]  But then here's the most important part of this thing to me: is you got Trump comes in as a total outsider, and so it brings you a little bit of hope.
[00:11:31]  Hey, there's an outsider.
[00:11:32]  What you need is like someone to break apart.
[00:11:35]  Like, let's say Kanye wins and he starts breaking up the Democratic Party.
[00:11:38]  It really opens up someone to split the Republican Party.
[00:11:41]  And that's when you start having an avenue for more independence.
[00:11:44]  So the more we can get these parties to eat themselves and break themselves apart, like you get the Democrats to break from the far left to the medium left, then you create an avenue by which, you know, like a party like ours, the Libertarian Party, does not need as large of a coalition to win.
[00:12:00]  And this becomes a little bit less team sports and a little bit more who's actually going to represent my ideas.
[00:12:06]  Yeah.
[00:12:07]  Well, listen, I get what you're saying.
[00:12:09]  It's, it, in all sincerity, may not be the worst thing for Kanye to run some type of national campaign.
[00:12:19]  Uh, I again, I don't know what type of ballot access he'd be able to get, but it might just be good to break things up and to, you know, get like you said, give a fuck you vote option, and also just to have people questioning everything.
[00:12:34]  I gotta say, I think there is something powerful in Kanye's message.
[00:12:41]  And you, you know, for a fact there's something powerful in Kanye's message by the way he was viciously attacked when he came out and supported Trump.
[00:12:50]  It's like, why should it matter that one guy, you know what I mean?
[00:12:54]  It one famous rapper, producer, businessman, whatever, comes out and supports Trump.
[00:13:01]  But you realize in a way how angry everyone got with Donald, with Kanye West when he was, you know, supporting Trump.
[00:13:11]  It kind of gives away their game plan.
[00:13:14]  And that is it.
[00:13:15]  And you see this throughout Hollywood: that there can be nothing short of 100% conformity.
[00:13:25]  You cannot have one guy out there who is like popular, like really, really popular amongst kids and black people and like all these different demographics who goes the other way.
[00:13:37]  They can, people cannot be allowed to have the knowledge that they have the option to not believe all of the dogma.
[00:13:46]  That's against the rules.
[00:13:47]  It's look, it's something that I think, and this has been at the heart of my whole like, you know, cultural message about how culture matters and it's important for libertarians to get into culture, you know, fights.
[00:14:04]  Because this is this is what libertarians get wrong, that the left absolutely gets right.
[00:14:10]  And it's, there's, it's, it's part of the reason why they're winning and they're dominating just about everything is that we recognize the government as this power center.
[00:14:23]  And we go, okay, the government does all of these things and they're evil and they're basically a criminal organization.
[00:14:31]  And we can philosophically, consistently demonstrate how that's wrong and ineffective and a bunch of other things.
[00:14:40]  And that's fine.
[00:14:41]  But the issue with that, well, there's two.
[00:14:43]  Number one is most people don't think in philosophical terms.
[00:14:47]  Most people do not have major hang-ups about contradicting themselves.
[00:14:51]  And this is why you see this all around us.
[00:14:53]  Like if Donald Trump was like, I'm the law and order guy and we're going to ratchet up the war on drugs and we're going to, you know what I mean?
[00:15:02]  Like, really clean up these streets.
[00:15:03]  Most of the Republicans supporting him would continue to support him.
[00:15:07]  If he goes, we're going to sign the First Step Act and we're going to have criminal justice reform and let a lot of nonviolent criminals out.
[00:15:13]  Most of the Republicans supporting him will support him.
[00:15:16]  They do not care about being philosophically inconsistent.
[00:15:20]  And obviously, that's true for people on the left as well.
[00:15:22]  I know almost everyone listening to this show who's at one point or another gotten into an argument with some woke leftist has realized that I'm coming at this with like you're being philosophically inconsistent and you're realizing that they don't care.
[00:15:41]  That does not give them a hang, like that doesn't fuck with them.
[00:15:45]  That's just not how most people operate.
[00:15:47]  But the other major problem that libertarians have had is that they don't recognize that government, while it might be the most evil and it might initiate violence legally, unlike all these other areas, it's not the only power center.
[00:16:03]  And the left is well aware of this.
[00:16:05]  They're well aware of the power that Hollywood has, the media has, the culture has.
[00:16:11]  And that's why they go after all of these things and they've taken them over and they dominate them.
[00:16:15]  They're well aware of all of those different power sources and how much that influences people.
[00:16:21]  And Kanye was threatening to kind of crack this whole thing open and let a whole generation of black people and young people know that you don't have to conform to this way of thinking.
[00:16:35]  I mean, Kanye West is like a fucking religious, pro-life, pro-you know, prison reform, you know what I mean?

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[00:16:52]  And there's something about that that I like.
[00:16:53]  I like people who don't fit into one of the conventional boxes because it kind of lets other people know that you have the freedom to also be that way.
[00:17:03]  I mean, how stupid is it that you have to have the same position on issues that are completely unrelated as your party?
[00:17:13]  Like you, if you're a Democrat, then you have to be, you know, whatever.
[00:17:19]  You have to be, you know, concerned about climate change and pro-choice.
[00:17:28]  What do those two things have to do with each other?
[00:17:30]  Why should one indicate the other?
[00:17:33]  I mean, there's nothing that ties those together.
[00:17:36]  I mean, whatever, forget the like population issue or something like that, but you know what I mean?
[00:17:40]  Just two issues that have nothing to do with each other, but it's this herd mentality.
[00:17:44]  And I like the idea of somebody who's a leader in pop culture being like, well, fuck that.
[00:17:50]  You don't have to believe in both.
[00:17:51]  You can pick one and the other and feel how you feel about different issues.
[00:17:54]  And so I like all of that stuff.
[00:17:57]  I like the kind of compelled compliance being challenged.
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=== Fireworks vs Black Lives Matter (15:03) ===

[00:20:20]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:20:22]  You know, switching gears a little bit on another note, one thing that I got to say, I really enjoyed and I thought was pretty cool.
[00:20:29]  I don't know, what did you do for Fourth of July?
[00:20:32]  I was home, ate some barbecue, walked around, looked at people's fireworks.
[00:20:36]  Very nice.
[00:20:36]  So, so that's what I was going to get to: where the fireworks.
[00:20:40]  So, there were firework shows that were canceled all over the country.
[00:20:45]  Um, which I really listen, let me preface by saying I don't really give a fuck about fireworks.
[00:20:51]  I never have.
[00:20:52]  Me neither.
[00:20:52]  It just doesn't really do it for me.
[00:20:54]  Um, I mean, like, not that I've never seen fireworks shows where I was like, oh, that's pretty cool.
[00:20:58]  But generally speaking, it's like I watch it for like three minutes and then I'm always like, okay, can we like do something else?
[00:21:04]  This is just it bores me after a while.
[00:21:05]  It's like, there's colors in the sky.
[00:21:07]  I get it.
[00:21:08]  Um, anyway, uh, but there was something that really bugged me about canceling all these fireworks shows when it to me, it would seem like that's the easiest thing to social distance at.
[00:21:20]  I mean, people are just watching something that's going up in the sky and exploding, and they can easily stand six feet apart.
[00:21:26]  Like, why?
[00:21:27]  And it just seemed like what I mean, like, after everything the country has been through over the last, you know, few months, it's like, are you just determined to take away everything from people?
[00:21:36]  Like, can we not just let people have a little something?
[00:21:39]  You know, like how much like just economic anxiety there is around the country, you know, like how much turmoil the country's in right now.
[00:21:49]  People can't just do something that feels normal to them, watch some fireworks on 4th of July when it's clearly not a threat in any way, you know, or at least can be done in a way that's that's not, you know, risking the colors are showing of um suppression because we view the colors and we enjoy the colors, but do we give anything back to them?
[00:22:10]  No, we just take there's a real hierarchy there.
[00:22:13]  That's a that's a good, that's a good point.
[00:22:15]  Well, anyway, so what happened was this happened by me and it happened uh all over the country was that basically they shut down these big fireworks displays, but everyone seemingly was lighting off their own fireworks.
[00:22:31]  If you I was looking at like I way more fun, anyways, like going to a fireworks show sucks walking around your neighborhood trying to figure out what's going to blast next, and then it's so much more imposing when it's right over your head.
[00:22:44]  No, by the way, I do get it did they did wake up my daughter, which kind of annoyed me.
[00:22:49]  Um, but you know, okay.
[00:22:51]  Uh, and I get there's people out there who are like, it really tortures like uh animals, and I get people's points about all of that.
[00:22:58]  And again, like I said, I'm not like a huge firework fan, but there was something really cool about the moment when it was like this very quiet, kind of dignified civil disobedience where they were like, Look, we're not doing any.
[00:23:11]  I mean, if you looked out, if you like, we're at a rooftop in anywhere in the New York City area, there, I mean, Staten Island, all over Staten Island, all over Brooklyn, all over Manhattan, there were just fireworks everywhere.
[00:23:23]  And it was kind of cool because it wasn't like one major firework show.
[00:23:26]  It was just all tons of different people lighting off their fireworks.
[00:23:30]  I saw cops, you know, like scrambling around trying to find them.
[00:23:33]  And eventually, I think the cops realized it's like, yeah, you can't get everyone.
[00:23:37]  So just give up on this shit.
[00:23:39]  And there was something to me kind of cool about just looking around and seeing like this visual evidence of how many people were like, fuck these rules.
[00:23:50]  We don't care.
[00:23:52]  We're over this, you know, and like, we're going to do this.
[00:23:55]  I'm sorry.
[00:23:56]  This isn't risking anything.
[00:23:57]  This isn't like, you know, it's not destroying anything.
[00:24:00]  It's just having fun.
[00:24:01]  And I just, I don't know.
[00:24:02]  I thought there was something kind of heartwarming about it.
[00:24:04]  Like as I was watching it, I was like, oh, this is, this is like a special moment.
[00:24:09]  And so I thought that that was, that was really nice.
[00:24:13]  Sorry for the dogs and the babies who got woken up.
[00:24:17]  But it is horrible what it does to dogs.
[00:24:19]  I saw a few people posting videos.
[00:24:21]  And they're like, this is what you're doing to my dog right now.
[00:24:22]  You're like, oh, that is.
[00:24:24]  And dogs, like, we're just outside having fun and dogs are like in Vietnam.
[00:24:27]  Like, they're like, fuck it.
[00:24:28]  What the hell is going on?
[00:24:29]  And yeah, it's messed up.
[00:24:31]  Anyway, but I did think weird, anyways.
[00:24:35]  I get your point.
[00:24:36]  Like, if you adopt them, it's one thing, but otherwise, you breed something just to tear out its fucking balls and then you keep it in the house and it's got to be on your schedule.
[00:24:44]  And then it's the neutering thing is definitely.
[00:24:46]  The neutering thing is a little bit, a little bit weird.
[00:24:49]  Anyway, so I thought that was that was kind of nice.
[00:24:53]  And it's kind of cool sometimes, I guess.
[00:24:57]  There's there is some value in seeing how many other people are willing to be civilly civilly disobedient.
[00:25:05]  And maybe that's a little bit of a contradiction for the thing I was talking about a few episodes back talking about protests and things like that.
[00:25:12]  But, you know, of course, like I get the power and seeing a lot of people in the streets and stuff like that, but I still stand by what I said back there: that I would, if, if protests turned this violent and destructive, I wouldn't be a part of them, even if it was something I really believed in.
[00:25:28]  Even if I really believed in the cause, I would just say, like, this isn't worth it.
[00:25:32]  Anyway, so there was something, another story that I wanted to mention briefly.
[00:25:41]  So there was, I don't know if you saw out in Seattle, there was this driver who ran over a couple protesters who were protesting on a highway.
[00:25:56]  Run them over as much as sent them flying like fucking balling, dude.
[00:25:59]  That was it.
[00:26:01]  You know, there was something about the video of it that almost didn't look real.
[00:26:06]  Yeah, it looked like they flew.
[00:26:09]  It looked like something out of like a cartoon or a movie or something.
[00:26:13]  They flew so far.
[00:26:16]  Literally, you couldn't even imagine it.
[00:26:18]  And it's, you know, I mean, of course, it, you know, it's awful that that happened.
[00:26:26]  You know, this is kind of why I would say, you know, protesting in highways is not a great idea.
[00:26:31]  I know that's a controversial statement.
[00:26:33]  But that was a closed highway.
[00:26:36]  Yeah, well, I've heard conflicting reports on this.
[00:26:39]  Some people were saying that it was closed and then it had been reopened.
[00:26:42]  Then other people were saying, no, it was never reopened.
[00:26:45]  So I don't know.
[00:26:46]  But either way, I just don't think protesting on a highway is a good idea because something like this could end up happening.
[00:26:54]  Regardless of this whole thing has turned stupid where since the protesters have kind of turned violent or they're not just like peacefully protesting or they're doing things like being out on the highway.
[00:27:04]  It's like both sides are trying to ramp things up a little bit.
[00:27:08]  Now, this guy, like it's another, like if you fucking go on a live highway to try and block traffic, I don't have a lot of sympathy for you.
[00:27:14]  This guy going down a closed highway, clearly 100% not acceptable.
[00:27:18]  Sure, that makes things drastically different, no question.
[00:27:21]  Both sides are playing with fire at this point.
[00:27:23]  We're like, you can almost, you can expect that if like, there's a guy who wants to use the road every morning and now we can't because you guys are protesting every week, and at some point some guy's going to get fucking pissed off.
[00:27:32]  Or if like, you keep, you know, fucking with people's stores, someone's going to get pissed off.
[00:27:36]  So right, and also why the cops are supposed to come in and usually cool tensions so that it doesn't escalate right right well you, you would think that's what you'd want from them.
[00:27:44]  And then you have to understand and this is, this is like what, what?
[00:27:47]  I can't wrap my head around um, which a lot of people defending the protesters will will, you know, kind of take this line.
[00:27:56]  You know where they say, well, the protesters are mostly peaceful, the people rioting and looting aren't the same as the ones peacefully protesting or whatever.
[00:28:04]  You know and and like okay maybe, but if you're like, say that that couple uh, that we talked about, who had the guns out on their lawn, if you're them and a mob breaks into your private, you know gated area you, you can understand.
[00:28:20]  Where they don't have like, they can't just assume you're peaceful and mean them no harm.
[00:28:27]  They've been seeing videos of businesses burnt down.
[00:28:30]  And now you're coming into a residential area and and they're reasonably gonna think maybe they're here to burn houses down now, maybe that's the next step.
[00:28:38]  And likewise and again not saying that was the situation in this particular incident in seat, look like he was gunning for them.
[00:28:44]  It didn't even just I don't, like I, to me I couldn't tell whether he was gunning for them or whether he was just going really fast and didn't realize what was coming up uh, on him.
[00:28:53]  You know, like I, I don't know, I couldn't, I couldn't tell, but it you also again, not in this situation, but just in general if you are blocking roads or, you know, highways or streets, anything like that, blocking cars there's been so many videos now of people being assaulted in their cars, being dragged out of their cars, things like that, that you got to understand that that uh, you know driver is gonna come into this with like, I don't know what their intentions are here.
[00:29:19]  I don't know that they're just gonna block the road and sing kumbaya.
[00:29:23]  You know, like these people might be trying to kill me, and so it, like you said, that it's just gotten to a level now where people are going to protect themselves against what the the worst case scenario could be and and in some situations you know, you really can't blame them for that.
[00:29:39]  Also Jaguar, maybe this guy oh, go ahead.
[00:29:42]  I was gonna say Jaguar is usually not the car you pull out if you want to go run into people.
[00:29:46]  I mean if he's got a jag, he must got a Suv or something with a bit more of a grate.
[00:29:50]  You know yeah yeah, but i'll tell you I you know i've been thinking about a lot over uh, the last uh month or so.
[00:29:58]  Um, obviously everyone who listens to the show knows this, because i've been talking about it quite a bit.
[00:30:02]  But i've been thinking about not just like the black lives, matter protests And stuff like that.
[00:30:08]  But what the libertarian response should be to all of this, and it's something that's a fluid situation.
[00:30:14]  So I've been working it out.
[00:30:15]  I mean, obviously, libertarians have been talking about the problems with police for a very long time before Black Lives Matter was a thing.
[00:30:26]  And so, okay, I do understand, like on a surface level, where, you know, where you'd go, oh, okay, so people are protesting against police abuses.
[00:30:37]  That's something libertarians should support.
[00:30:39]  You know, like I get that on the initial surface level.
[00:30:42]  Of course, when it starts turning into, you know, this kind of like wannabe totalitarian movement that's demanding that Aunt Jemima get removed and statues get torn down, that's demanding, you know, that like whatever, you know, there's also a lot of hardcore communists who are in the movement.
[00:31:01]  And then when they start destroying property and assaulting people and things like that, then I, you know, it seems pretty clear that it's not something libertarians should be supporting.
[00:31:09]  But the issue of race is in many ways something that libertarians don't, to their credit, don't harp on the way other groups do.
[00:31:25]  And, you know, libertarians see things in terms of like, okay, well, who's initiating violence or who's violating someone's rights?
[00:31:34]  And so in general, they try to stay away from that, you know, that type of stuff.
[00:31:40]  But with these, with this moment we're living in, it seems to me almost impossible to not have some type of comment or some type of take on the claims of racism.
[00:31:52]  Or, I mean, the movement is named Black Lives Matter.
[00:31:55]  It's obviously, you know, a central part of it is a racial component.
[00:32:00]  And it's like, okay, you start to notice the way things are presented in the mainstream media.
[00:32:08]  And I think that quite possibly, now, I don't know exactly what percentage of society this would be.
[00:32:14]  I haven't seen like polling done on this, but I bet you, if you were to ask the American people if they believed that whites committed more violent crime toward blacks than blacks do toward whites, and ask them if cops kill more black people than white people.
[00:32:36]  I bet you there's a sizable chunk of the population who would think both of those statements are true.
[00:32:42]  That white people commit more violence toward black people than the other way around, and that cops kill more black people than white people.
[00:32:51]  I bet you there's a lot of people who would believe that because that's the narrative that is spoon-fed to them.
[00:32:57]  And the problem is that both of those things are factually untrue.
[00:33:02]  You just, there's no debate about it.
[00:33:04]  It's not up for, you know, there's nothing controversial about those opinions.
[00:33:08]  I mean, there is, but factually speaking, there's not.
[00:33:11]  And I don't know if so many people, like I'm not saying the majority of people believe that, but I bet you it's a substantial chunk of the American population who believes that.
[00:33:21]  And if that's the case, I don't know that for any truth seeker or truth teller, that they shouldn't be trying to correct the record on that and go, well, no, actually, that's not the reality of the situation.
[00:33:34]  And you notice how I cannot tell you how many different times, how many news stories I've seen where it's like, white man kills unarmed black kid.
[00:33:47]  You know, like they will tell you the race of the person to let you know this is a racial, you know, issue.
[00:33:54]  White cop kills unarmed black man.
[00:33:57]  You know, white man kills unarmed black man.
[00:33:59]  You see this all the time.
[00:34:01]  And one of the things that I thought was interesting about this story in Seattle is you see that.
[00:34:10]  So ABC News puts out this tweet.
[00:34:15]  Again, not some random little news source.
[00:34:17]  This is ABC News.
[00:34:19]  They say a young protester has died from injuries she suffered when a luxury car plowed into her and another woman during a Black Lives Matter protest Saturday on a Seattle freeway.
[00:34:35]  So, of course, if you follow the situation at all, it was a black guy who killed a white woman.
[00:34:44]  Now, I'm not saying that that needs to be in the story.
[00:34:49]  Like, I don't know.
[00:34:50]  There's a perfectly reasonable argument to say that's an irrelevant detail.
[00:34:54]  You know what I mean?
[00:34:55]  But if the media were playing this thing the way they do the other way around, like, believe me, if it was a fucking, you know, if it was a right-wing white guy who killed some black woman, we all know they would insert the race into the story.
[00:35:14]  And so instead of inserting the race, they've just let you know that she's a Black Lives Matter protest and he's in a luxury car.

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[00:35:23]  Why is it a piece of information worthy of being in the headline that it's a luxury car?
[00:35:29]  Like, what if it was like a broken down Chevy?
[00:35:31]  Then it wouldn't be such a problem that he fucking like just seems weird.
[00:35:36]  And it seems like they're almost trying to force this back into their narrative of luxury car kills Black Lives Matter activist.
[00:35:44]  But of course, we all know if it was the other way around, it would be white guy kills black woman.
[00:35:49]  Unfortunately, for their narrative, this story is a black guy killing a white woman, which already kind of just, you know, makes, you know, people, you know, like binary thinkers short circuit because of course you're like, wait, but it was a Black Lives Matter protest, but it's a white woman protesting and a black guy in the car.
[00:36:05]  And anyway, my point is this, right?
[00:36:11]  How would libertarians feel if the roles were reversed?
[00:36:17]  Let's say the media was stoking up racial tensions in the opposite way.
[00:36:24]  So let's say that they did run with this and their story was black man kills unarmed white woman.
[00:36:31]  And every time there was an example of black on white crime, they always ran these stories and sensationalized them and really played them up.
[00:36:43]  And by the way, they could do that because there's a lot more of that than there is white on black crime.
[00:36:47]  Again, just a statistical fact, whether you like it or not.
[00:36:50]  Whether it makes you uncomfortable or not, it's still a fact.
[00:36:54]  But let's say they did that constantly.
[00:36:56]  They were always just kind of like another black man kills unarmed white woman, white man, you know, like kept running with that.
[00:37:02]  I think libertarians would be very quick to jump out and say, like, they're stoking up racial tensions here.
[00:37:10]  This is not necessary.
[00:37:11]  It'd be the same as gun, like when there's the school shootings, where they'd be like, hey, guys, look at the numbers and relax.
[00:37:17]  Let's not freak out on this group of people.
[00:37:18]  Let's not be violent.
[00:37:19]  Yeah.
[00:37:20]  Because it wouldn't take any courage to do it.
[00:37:23]  So libertarians everywhere would be like, this is wrong.
[00:37:25]  Stop doing this.
[00:37:26]  Likewise, if there were, let's say, actual laws that discriminated against black people, like there were quotas for hiring.
[00:37:38]  There were affirmative action laws that said, we are going to have less black people here and more white people.
[00:37:43]  And there were these cultural movements out there that wanted more white representation that, hey, go support white-owned businesses.
[00:37:51]  Make sure there's more white CEOs and white.
[00:37:54]  Libertarians in a second would call this out and say, this is wrong.
[00:37:58]  This is racist.
[00:37:59]  This is a real example of institutional racism, and it's wrong.
[00:38:04]  The law should not be discriminating against someone based on their race.
[00:38:09]  Yet the situation is the opposite.
[00:38:11]  And libertarians are pretty quiet about it.
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[00:40:10]  So when libertarians are out there, you know, there's like this, I mean, look, if you want to get into like the left-wing version of racism, when they're talking about like unconscious bias and things like that, well, okay.
[00:40:25]  I mean, I'm not saying there's nothing to it, but most of it's pretty tough to get down to the bottom of.
[00:40:33]  And libertarians don't really have much to say about what somebody's unconscious bias might be.
[00:40:41]  I mean, first off, it's kind of hard to even say what it is.
[00:40:45]  And second of all, people kind of have the right to have their own, you know, prejudices.
[00:40:50]  But if there was a law that had racism written into the law, well, that libertarians definitely have something to say about.
[00:40:58]  And yet I hear libertarians talking about systemic racism and leaving out the part about laws that have like, you know, racial components to them.
[00:41:08]  And so that, you know, that seems a little bit strange to me.
[00:41:12]  It seems like, look, I mean, you can say that you think that because of the racist history of America, that you do have this double standard where, yes, you're right.
[00:41:28]  If things were reversed the other way to white people, you know, we'd be outraged about it.
[00:41:33]  But since they're not, we're not so outraged about like, you know, pro-black racism or anti-white racism.
[00:41:41]  We don't, you know, we don't care about that as much.
[00:41:43]  You can make that argument, but at least make that argument.
[00:41:48]  At least be clear that that is your position.
[00:41:51]  That it's like, yeah, I don't think it's the same thing.
[00:41:54]  And that's okay.
[00:41:54]  I don't know that I completely disagree with that.
[00:41:57]  You know, like that, like, I love Maj Ture.
[00:42:00]  I think he's fucking great.
[00:42:01]  I think he does great work.
[00:42:02]  I think he's a real interesting guy.
[00:42:04]  I like listening to his stuff.
[00:42:05]  And he's got that group, Black Guns Matter.
[00:42:07]  Now, I think that's great.
[00:42:08]  Like I said previously, I think that's like the best kind of identity politics, you know?
[00:42:13]  But if someone had a group called White Guns Matter, I don't think libertarians would be as into them as they are with him.
[00:42:19]  Now, that's okay.
[00:42:20]  You can have your prejudice and you can make a justification for that.
[00:42:25]  Like, well, here's why.
[00:42:26]  I think this one is okay and this one isn't.
[00:42:29]  Fine.
[00:42:30]  But don't pretend that you don't have that prejudice.
[00:42:33]  Don't pretend that you're not.
[00:42:35]  So that's kind of my major issue.
[00:42:37]  And I take like my position on this whole thing is that I don't, I can't really justify the prejudice.
[00:42:47]  I think that we should just call balls and strikes, be right down the middle.
[00:42:51]  I don't have a pro-white agenda.
[00:42:52]  I don't have a pro-black agenda.
[00:42:54]  I don't really even have a pro-Jewish agenda.
[00:42:56]  I don't fucking like, I just don't think that's right.
[00:43:00]  And if we're trying to objectively talk about what's right and wrong, I think we should leave that shit out.
[00:43:05]  Now, I understand that there is a history of racism in the country.
[00:43:11]  Obviously, I don't think any sane person acting in good faith is going to tell you that, like, yeah, black people haven't had fucked up laws against them in the history of America and all of this shit.
[00:43:24]  But I just think that I don't buy into the idea that you can always be righting the wrongs of the past by judging people in different ways now.
[00:43:37]  So the whole thing that is wrong about the past is that black people were treated differently under the law.
[00:43:42]  They were judged and treated shitty by people.
[00:43:45]  And I don't think that doing that the other way justifies that, especially since most of those people are dead.
[00:43:51]  I think that the way you undo that is to say, we're going to stop doing that.
[00:43:55]  Let's have equality under the law.
[00:43:57]  Let's not judge people based on their race, or at least try, at least try to play it down the middle.
[00:44:03]  And I mean, literally, I think that one generation later in Germany, after the Holocaust, if people had been like, well, you shouldn't go to this German, you know, Aryan-owned store.
[00:44:16]  You should go to this Jewish-owned store because of what they went through.
[00:44:19]  Even then, I'd be like, it's a generation later.
[00:44:21]  There was a war fought.
[00:44:22]  This is over.
[00:44:23]  Let's move on.
[00:44:23]  Like, this doesn't make sense to harp on what happened.
[00:44:26]  Like, you want to have a museum about it and tell the story.
[00:44:29]  And, oh, sure, I'm fine with all of that.
[00:44:31]  But to write into the, if they were to write into the law some preference for Jewish businesses, I'd oppose that because I think it's wrong.
[00:44:38]  It's not annoying, too.
[00:44:40]  Yeah, it's just really Jewish.
[00:44:43]  It is super Jewish.
[00:44:44]  Super Jewish.
[00:44:46]  Let me take a guess who wrote those laws.
[00:44:48]  But you know what I mean?
[00:44:49]  And it's just in America to sit here and talk about institutional racism and all these things when it's like, look, dude, you're never going to completely undo the fucked up things of the past.
[00:45:01]  That's history.
[00:45:03]  Unfortunately, every single country out there, every society, if you go 100, 200 years in the past, there was some brutal shit happening.
[00:45:11]  For most countries, it's still going on right now.
[00:45:15]  I think we're much better off to focus on the brutality that's still going on.
[00:45:20]  You know, you focus on like the genocide in Yemen or some shit like that, where it's like, oh, yeah, that's still going on and is really bad.
[00:45:27]  If you're against slavery, take a look at Libya.
[00:45:29]  You know what I mean?
[00:45:30]  Like at the very least, be like, since both of those were caused by the American federal government, maybe we should be like, hey, let's not cause any more of those, you know, or stop the one in progress in Yemen.
[00:45:42]  So that just makes more sense to me.
[00:45:44]  But in a country like America, it does seem to me like, all right, we had a civil rights movement in the 60s.
[00:45:53]  We've had affirmative action basically since then, huge welfare programs that have been obviously disasters.
[00:46:02]  And we've built a culture of people bending over backward to not be perceived as racist, but HR departments throughout every major corporation, all of this stuff.
[00:46:15]  It just seems to me like at what point can you just go, let's just call it down the middle.
[00:46:21]  And if you're doing that, when you see the media constantly stoking these flames in this one direction, it's this one kind of, you know, working up hostilities against white people direction.
[00:46:36]  I don't see why anyone who's trying to challenge this whole system would support that or go along with it.

=== Biden Convention Speech Doubts (03:01) ===

[00:46:45]  It's like, no, this is so, this is so obvious.
[00:46:47]  And like, again, I think that I'm, you know, on solid ground saying, I mean, it's always hard to judge what you yourself would do in a different situation, but I'm pretty certain that if this was all going in the other direction, I'd be the first to stand up against that.
[00:47:08]  You know, like if there were quotas and a movement to support white businesses and this shit, I'd be like, this is wrong.
[00:47:14]  Like, this is wrong that we're doing this.
[00:47:16]  So I think I'm on solid ground saying it's wrong.
[00:47:20]  It's wrong this way.
[00:47:22]  I don't know.
[00:47:24]  I don't know.
[00:47:26]  Kanye 2021.
[00:47:27]  We'll make sure it doesn't happen.
[00:47:28]  Kanye 2020.
[00:47:30]  2020.
[00:47:31]  When is the actual vote?
[00:47:33]  The vote is in November.
[00:47:36]  It's election.
[00:47:36]  Oh, wow.
[00:47:37]  That's coming up.
[00:47:38]  They better start campaigning.
[00:47:40]  Well, if you're Joe Biden, you definitely don't want to start campaigning.
[00:47:44]  This has been, everything has gone in Joe Biden's favor.
[00:47:47]  What are the debates supposed to happen then?
[00:47:49]  I don't know.
[00:47:50]  I don't know that they're actually scheduled yet.
[00:47:52]  I don't know that they're going to happen.
[00:47:54]  I think there is a chance that Biden will find a way to get out of all of this.
[00:47:59]  I think they may not have a convention.
[00:48:01]  They may not have debates.
[00:48:02]  I have no fucking idea.
[00:48:03]  I mean, I don't know.
[00:48:04]  Maybe they will.
[00:48:06]  But I think Biden is not good with sentences and stringing said sentences together.
[00:48:16]  And I think he's going to try to find a way.
[00:48:18]  Have you seen like when you'll watch like some of the videos he puts out from his basement or whatever?
[00:48:24]  And even the edited videos are brutal.
[00:48:28]  Like that's the one, you know, they were there for like three hours and they were like, all right, I mean, he's, he's sleepy.
[00:48:34]  This is the best.
[00:48:34]  This is all we got out of him.
[00:48:36]  It's just going to get worse from here.
[00:48:37]  This is the best we can put out there.
[00:48:39]  And they'll still be like, you know, just horrible.
[00:48:43]  I don't, I've never seen anything like the Joe Biden candidacy in terms of his apparent mental decline.
[00:48:53]  I've never seen anything else like it, where there is legitimately like the candidate, the Democratic candidate for president, I do not think could give a speech.
[00:49:06]  Now, I don't mean he can't do a debate or take tough questions.
[00:49:10]  I mean, if you like a half hour convention speech, I don't think he could read it off a teleprompter.
[00:49:16]  I don't think he could pull that off.
[00:49:19]  I don't think he's capable of it.
[00:49:21]  I think he'd have moments where he loses his train of thought and he and he collapses into himself and he goes, oh, you know the thing.
[00:49:28]  Like, I don't think he can just read sentences off of a teleprompter.
[00:49:34]  And that's, that's really something else.
[00:49:36]  It's like, it's hard to imagine, but that's the reality.
[00:49:42]  So we'll see.
[00:49:43]  We'll see what ends up happening.

=== Why Kanye Is Tough to Support (12:06) ===

[00:49:46]  But, you know, we'll see.
[00:49:47]  We'll see whether.
[00:49:49]  I want to watch that show debating over dresses because the queen's coming over.
[00:49:53]  I don't know if this nail polish matches or if that cake's going to taste good.
[00:49:57]  All the drama.
[00:49:58]  Best ratings yet.
[00:49:59]  All the good drama.
[00:50:02]  Okay.
[00:50:02]  So what was the other thing?
[00:50:04]  Oh, yeah.
[00:50:05]  So Donald Trump's 4th of July speech.
[00:50:08]  I thought we wanted to talk about that a little bit.
[00:50:10]  It was more or less, I think, laid out kind of the blueprint for where Trump's campaign goes from here.
[00:50:19]  I listened to about half of it.
[00:50:21]  What did you think?
[00:50:23]  Well, firstly, he seems a little sleepy.
[00:50:24]  He's got a time when he's doing his blow a little better.
[00:50:26]  I like fired up Trump.
[00:50:28]  I don't like sleepy Trump.
[00:50:30]  Also, like what you were getting at, he's focusing his message on, hey, there's a left-wing mob out there that's making this unsafe, that's got bad ideals, that's tearing down our statues, want to change our history.
[00:50:41]  And that's a better focus point than, hey, look at what I've done for the economy to get you that wall and to solve our problems with China and to keep you safe while there's a virus going on.
[00:50:50]  So he's trying to move away from that and towards, hey, there's an angry mob that wants to destroy what you see as being America.
[00:50:57]  And I'm going to be the one to stop that.
[00:51:00]  Yeah.
[00:51:00]  So one of the things that kind of jumped out to me of the speech, and this has been true in general, you know, it's a common theme in America in recent years.
[00:51:12]  So I'll put it this way.
[00:51:14]  I was listening to this album, like a children's album with my daughter.
[00:51:21]  It's like a musical, well, musical, it's an album of music called Free to Be You and Me.
[00:51:29]  And it's like very left wing.
[00:51:30]  I think it's from like the 80s or something like that.
[00:51:33]  And they had like Michael Jackson saying a song and yeah, I don't care.
[00:51:37]  I know what he's accused of.
[00:51:39]  Music's still great.
[00:51:40]  And Harry Belafonte made a song and like some other famous people are on it and they sing like kids' songs and she likes the songs enough, but it's very left wing, very left-wing.
[00:51:49]  You know, like you can kind of tell, like, you know, not like blatantly over the top, but it's like, you know, it's a bunch of famous Hollywood type people.
[00:51:55]  And they have this one song.
[00:52:01]  I think it's called Mommies Are People.
[00:52:04]  And there's a song about mommies and daddies.
[00:52:07]  And they say in the song, and the message of the song is kind of like, oh, like, I mean, it's like, you're a little girl.
[00:52:14]  Mommies were little girls once, then they grow up.
[00:52:16]  Daddies were little boys once, then they grow up.
[00:52:18]  And you can do all of these different things.
[00:52:19]  You can do anything you want to do in the world.
[00:52:21]  You know, kind of a simple enough message.
[00:52:23]  And there's one point where Harry Belafonte says, you know, the line of the song is like, mommies can be anything they want to be.
[00:52:30]  And Harry Belafonte goes, well, they can't be daddies or grandpas.
[00:52:34]  And then starts singing about daddies can be anything they want to be.
[00:52:37]  And anyway, the long point I'm getting to, I don't even know why I'm using this example, is that I am sure that these left-wingers thought that this was a completely uncontroversial thing to say, that women can't be men.
[00:52:51]  No one would have even dreamed in a million years that that would be considered like not only controversial, but like hate speech.
[00:52:57]  I mean, you could just could not say that today in Hollywood.
[00:53:01]  But it was completely uncontroversial at the time.
[00:53:04]  And no one would have even thought about it.
[00:53:06]  And there's a whole lot of things that fall in.
[00:53:08]  Mommy can grow a dick if she wants to.
[00:53:11]  Yeah, that would have, you'd have to have a whole verse about that in the song now.
[00:53:16]  So in a way, I'm letting my daughter listen to right-wing propaganda by today's standards.
[00:53:21]  Is there a song, if you're white, it's okay to feel guilty?
[00:53:24]  No, no, there's none of that.
[00:53:26]  This was before the crazy identitarian left took over.
[00:53:30]  But there's lots of things like that today, where a statement that would have been completely uncontroversial, even just like five years ago, definitely 10 years ago, is now a crazy controversial statement.
[00:53:43]  And it was just interesting to me that this Trump speech was taken as controversial when that was the first thing that jumped out to me is that there was, you know, in the America I grew up in, there would be nothing controversial.
[00:53:56]  This would be such a ho-hum boring speech.
[00:53:58]  I mean, aside from the comment on current circumstances of left-wing mobs and things like that, basically Trump's message was it's okay to love your country.
[00:54:09]  And that this is okay.
[00:54:11]  We can revere Christopher Columbus and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and all of these people.
[00:54:17]  These were great men.
[00:54:18]  And they, you know, we created a great country and America is great.
[00:54:23]  I mean, this was like the message of his speech.
[00:54:25]  And this is what's considered so controversial right now.
[00:54:28]  Whether you think it's controversial or not, you'd have to at least acknowledge that this is very new, that this would be considered controversial.
[00:54:36]  I mean, if Bill Clinton or even Barack Obama had said things like this, nobody would have considered this to be, you know, a statement that's out there.
[00:54:48]  Oh my God.
[00:54:48]  Or imagine that.
[00:54:49]  He likes George Washington.
[00:54:51]  Imagine if they made the claim of the opposite.
[00:54:53]  They'd be thrown, you know, thrown to the fire.
[00:54:56]  Yes.
[00:54:56]  If you ever said, hey, I don't think we should take down statues of George Washington because he had slaves, or I don't think our founding fathers were good people, anything like that.
[00:55:04]  Think about how un-American people would see you as.
[00:55:07]  Yeah, I saw like people like posting pictures on 4th of July and someone was, you know, posted a macho man Randy Savage with his whole America, American flag outfit on.
[00:55:19]  And I was thinking about that where I was like, wow, that'd be like such a controversial thing to wear now.
[00:55:25]  Like that would actually be, there is a message.
[00:55:27]  You know, like if you walked through one of these protests with an American flag outfit, that's like, that is, you'd be, oh, yeah.
[00:55:37]  I mean, you would be, if not assaulted, you would at least be, you know, shouted down and have names yelled at you and be harassed and shit like that.
[00:55:47]  It's like, that's a, the American flag is itself a statement that you're like not with this left-wing Apollo Creed.
[00:55:57]  Get up.
[00:55:58]  Oh, no, Apollo Creed?
[00:56:00]  That's white supremacy right there.
[00:56:01]  Apollo Creed.
[00:56:02]  Yeah.
[00:56:03]  No, absolutely.
[00:56:04]  Might as well have a clown.
[00:56:06]  He was black and he loved America.
[00:56:08]  He was just trying to defend us from the Russians.
[00:56:10]  It didn't work out well, but he did his best because he loved the country.
[00:56:13]  He sacrificed himself and that's what motivated Rocky to get in the ring.
[00:56:16]  So it did, it did work out.
[00:56:17]  But I get what your point.
[00:56:18]  Yeah, he had to take the fall.
[00:56:20]  But his son becomes a great boxer.
[00:56:23]  That's the new series, the Creed.
[00:56:25]  Anyway, it just looks me personally, I guess I'll be moderate Dave Smith centrist on this one.
[00:56:37]  I think that the story that we need to worship all of American, you know, founding fathers and what a great nation we are and how perfect we are.
[00:56:48]  And we did all this great stuff is kind of stupid and oversimplified.
[00:56:53]  I also think the left-wing story that the whole nation is founded on racism and George Washington's a horrible person because he's a racist and all this shit.
[00:57:00]  I think that's also stupid and simplified.
[00:57:03]  It's like, I mean, the history is obviously in the middle.
[00:57:07]  There were some really bad things about the country.
[00:57:10]  There were some really great things about the country.
[00:57:12]  I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling, you know, kind of good feelings about what America's accomplished.
[00:57:18]  And I don't think there's anything wrong with feeling some bad feelings about the fucked up things that America did.
[00:57:23]  You know, I mean, you want to preserve the good and get rid of the bad.
[00:57:27]  That's kind of the goal of real progress, not the lefty progressive bullshit.
[00:57:33]  But it does, it, one of the things that was interesting about the speech is it did seem like almost like battle lines were drawn.
[00:57:41]  And of course, Trump is trying to draw these lines in a way that he thinks favor himself.
[00:57:46]  But the line that he's drawing is to say, I'm on team America.
[00:57:52]  I'm on team.
[00:57:53]  You can be proud of your history.
[00:57:55]  We're not toppling statues.
[00:57:58]  We're not for all of this shit.
[00:57:59]  There are great men in this country.
[00:58:01]  This country's great.
[00:58:02]  That's my side.
[00:58:04]  And the other side is going to be, you know, he can cast now as the side who hates America.
[00:58:09]  And I don't think that's the dumbest political calculation.
[00:58:15]  You know, that's okay.
[00:58:17]  He's betting that more people love the country than hate the country.
[00:58:21]  But I also did think there was something really hollow about the speech.
[00:58:32]  The truth is that Donald Trump can't really point to substantive issues and be like, this is what I'm getting done for you.
[00:58:44]  This is what we're going to do.
[00:58:46]  And I think that's partly why he's been reduced to this.
[00:58:49]  And I got to say, it just doesn't have the energy that a Trump 2016 campaign had, which was like what you said earlier about Kanye was that number one, he had the energy of he's the fuck you vote.
[00:59:03]  He's the craziest guy in the room.
[00:59:05]  He's really sending a message to the whole system that we want this whole thing, you know, like remade.
[00:59:13]  It didn't have any of that.
[00:59:15]  It reeked of like boomer, your, you know, Fox News watching grandfather who's just telling you America's great.
[00:59:24]  And I, I, I, I was, I came away from it like, I don't, this doesn't seem strong.
[00:59:30]  It didn't seem to have that strong Trump energy that the 2016 campaign had.
[00:59:35]  And as you mentioned before, he just didn't seem like, you know, Trump's not his best when he's reading a prepared speech.
[00:59:40]  He's better when he's riffing at these rallies and shit like that.
[00:59:43]  And that's not what this was.
[00:59:45]  So anyway, those were my thoughts.
[00:59:46]  Do you have anything else?
[00:59:47]  I don't even like this statue.
[00:59:49]  They're a bunch of ugly guys, but they have to do something.
[00:59:51]  They're going to tear it down.
[00:59:53]  That would be, that would be more Trump.
[00:59:56]  All right.
[00:59:57]  Just last pitch for Kanye.
[00:59:58]  That guy, he's black and he's got a transgender father-in-law.
[01:00:02]  You can't attack him for anything.
[01:00:04]  You understand?
[01:00:05]  Like, he can come out as conservative as he wants and like, what are you going to pretend you're more progressive than he is?
[01:00:12]  His wife was in a porno.
[01:00:14]  It's even sexually like, you know, what's the angle on this guy?
[01:00:18]  It is.
[01:00:19]  It is basically a dumb black guy.
[01:00:21]  That's the only thing you can say.
[01:00:24]  You just, you just have to become racist again.
[01:00:26]  No, I will.
[01:00:27]  The other angle that was floated out there was that, again, there's a lot of questions, ballot access and all that stuff.
[01:00:34]  But the other angle that was I saw people, you know, putting forward was that they go that this could really be doom for Joe Biden if he can even just get on a few you know uh ballots.
[01:00:47]  The idea if he could at least get a percentage of the black vote, you know, away from Biden, that it could really be be very damaging to the Democrats.
[01:01:00]  I don't know.
[01:01:01]  I mean, it's it's an interesting angle to think about, I suppose.
[01:01:07]  I just hope he has some good beats for it.
[01:01:09]  Well, he'll definitely have good beats.
[01:01:11]  I don't think we need to worry about that.
[01:01:13]  He is, say whatever you will about Kanye.
[01:01:15]  Fucking excellent hip-hop producer.
[01:01:17]  I don't know his music at all.
[01:01:18]  He made some dope beats, Rob.
[01:01:20]  Dope beats.
[01:01:21]  Here you are.
[01:01:21]  Look at you.
[01:01:22]  You're out here putting your neck on the line, campaigning for Kanye West.
[01:01:26]  And look, look at you.
[01:01:27]  You don't even know.
[01:01:28]  Yeah, the guys made some classics.
[01:01:31]  His first album, College Dropout, I thought was phenomenal.
[01:01:34]  Loved it.
[01:01:34]  Wait, he didn't go to college?
[01:01:36]  He did, but he dropped out.
[01:01:38]  Oh, I don't know.
[01:01:39]  That makes him a little tougher to support.
[01:01:41]  Really?
[01:01:42]  That's where you're going to draw the line is that he doesn't have a college degree.
[01:01:45]  Really?
[01:01:45]  That's all right.
[01:01:46]  You heard it here first.
[01:01:48]  All right.
[01:01:48]  All right.
[01:01:49]  We'll wrap on that note.
[01:01:50]  Thanks, guys, for listening.

=== The End Game of State Control (03:43) ===

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[01:02:13]  As always, I am your host and humble narrator, Buck Johnson, coming to you out of Austin, Texas, where, man, it's not here necessarily, but all over the states, it's a wild time right now.
[01:02:26]  And we're seeing police brutality up in Minnesota.
[01:02:31]  And we're seeing a lot of people pushing for police action in shutting down businesses and keeping people out of work and economies locked down.
[01:02:41]  And it's interesting that a lot of people don't see the similarities in those things.
[01:02:47]  And, you know, you see a lot of the left really upset by a man dying at the hands of a police officer.
[01:02:55]  And we agree.
[01:02:57]  I believe that, you know, most libertarians are horrified at what we saw with that cop up in Minnesota.
[01:03:04]  But it's interesting because a lot of the left are the ones pushing to keep things locked down.
[01:03:11]  And I think they don't understand that the end game of what they're pushing is the government boot on your neck.
[01:03:21]  And it's really interesting that once they see it on camera, when a cop's caught doing it, well, then they're horrified.
[01:03:30]  Yet, how do you think these lockdowns should be enforced?
[01:03:33]  I've seen leftist friends saying stuff like, why aren't the cops enforcing this lockdown?
[01:03:39]  There's no point having it if they don't go around and enforce it.
[01:03:42]  We should have drones flying over and see who's leaving their house.
[01:03:46]  Well, what's the end game when that happens?
[01:03:49]  Because what if I own a clothing boutique and I said, I'm not locking down?
[01:03:54]  The government can't tell me to do that.
[01:03:55]  This is my property.
[01:03:56]  It's my business.
[01:03:57]  And you can't tell me not to operate it.
[01:04:00]  Well, guess who comes to shut you down, guys?
[01:04:03]  It's the jackbooted thugs like the one kneeling on the man's head in Minneapolis.
[01:04:09]  That's the end game of that political philosophy.
[01:04:13]  And you know now the left, they're the pro-war faction, along with the neocons, of course, which have basically moved back to the left where they started.
[01:04:21]  And then they're the ones that question you if you dare, dare speak out against the CIA or the security state, the deep state will call it.
[01:04:30]  Well, that's treason if you speak out against.
[01:04:33]  How could you not trust your own CIA?
[01:04:36]  And then all of a sudden, when a cop's caught doing something horrible, everyone just freaks out.
[01:04:42]  The left doesn't like that.
[01:04:43]  Well, look, guys, that's the authoritarian philosophy that you're pushing.
[01:04:49]  That's what it looks like in its purest form.
[01:04:52]  And, you know, as libertarians, we're consistently against anything like that, against the war, against the CIA, against the FBI.
[01:05:00]  I mean, we can narrow it down if you want against state police forces, against government police forces.
[01:05:06]  And, you know, once again, I feel like we're the only philosophy that sees this for what it is.
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