Dave Smith and Rob Bernstein dissect Elizabeth Warren's post-mortem, mocking her sexist narrative on "The View" while contrasting her failure with Joe Biden's establishment flaws. The discussion critiques corporate feminism, analyzes Donald Trump's effective humor versus Biden's weak slogan, and reveals how Nick Fuentes alienated libertarians by attacking friends like Tom Woods. Smith admits orchestrating Fuentes's exit to protect the movement from indefensible rhetoric, concluding that internal hostility harms libertarianism more than external opposition ever could. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
It is Friday.
It is Rob Bernstein's fucking kick his feet up at his desk and flip everybody off day.
And he's back.
The king of the caulks, the fire.
Robbie Bernstein, how are you, sir?
I'm doing well.
It's good to have you back.
Still coronavirus-free?
I'm getting a little nervous about these things, but I'm starting to get nervous.
Yeah.
It's starting to do it to me.
Yeah.
You know what's fucking nuts?
Is so where I live on the upper west side of Manhattan.
And all, luckily, I'm, you know, luckily I'm a libertarian, so I'm always somewhat prepared.
I mean, not very prepared.
Like I'm in Manhattan.
I could be doing better.
I'm getting the fuck out of this city, by the way.
But, you know, I need another year.
So let's hope shit doesn't hit the fan this year for me and my family.
But I'm somewhat prepared.
Like I have, you know, some supplies and stuff.
But it is fuck.
I've never seen anything like this before.
Even with like storms and stuff like that.
Even in Sandy, I don't remember it being this bad.
The shelves in the stores of the shit you'd want are like empty.
All the fucking hand sanitizer is fucking gone.
Even Amazon wasn't fucking delivering that shit.
Like Purel and stuff like that.
The antibacterial soap is like fucking gone.
The Advil and Tylenol and all these things are completely wiped off the shelves.
And it is an amazing thing.
Like it's a little bit of a window into how things would go if something really was bad.
And then you realize that it's like, look, I'm no expert on the fucking coronavirus.
I don't know how bad this is going to get.
I fucking, I don't think it's going to be like something crazy terrible, and I hope not.
But you realize that it's like, if there was something crazy terrible, oh, you'd be, you know, just you better have fucking like some shit supplied.
I'm stocked up on blue chues.
I'm good.
Yeah, I mean, that's all, that's really all you need.
I got hard bonus for a month.
But it is, you get, you should, man.
Have, have fucking anti-like, and I'll tell you, this is now I ended up getting a bunch of shit because I have my ways.
All right.
I'm Dave motherfucking Smith.
There you go.
But I had stocked up on a lot of, like, I always have like a good amount of food, a good amount of like basic kind of like necessities.
I'm sorry, my local pizza shop guy.
I've already made arrangements.
I'm good.
That's not going to help you.
You need to do that.
You need canned goods, Rob.
No, he's got so many supplies in that kitchen, dude.
We're going to be eating pizza through the apocalypse.
No worries.
I'll tell you, I never really thought as much about, like, I always, like, I had my eye on currency collapse and things like that.
I never really thought about virus.
And I didn't really think about like, oh, you want to have fucking like antibacterial, antiviral shit.
Like, I never really thought about that.
And that is, uh, that's, that's been eye-opening.
I will never, I mean, assuming this all blows over for the next one, I will, uh, I will be prepared with all that shit.
We are so fucked in Manhattan.
I remember once during rush hour, supposed to take the end train and the end train just wasn't what, like, for whatever reason, end train at this hour, they had to stop at Times Square wasn't going to run.
And the chaos that was made, like, you, you don't realize how fucking crowded this city is.
The chaos that was in the Times Square station because one sub, you literally, you could not walk up the steps.
It was pandemonium.
And I just realized if things, like one train running late during rush hour, and you can see how much chaos that causes, we're just waiting, like, we're fucking boxed in here.
There's no way out.
You will.
You need a fucking raft to get out by the water.
That's the only way.
If shit really hits the fan, you're trapped in it.
You do not want to be in a city.
I mean, New York City is probably the worst one, but you do not want to be in a city.
You want to be on, you want to be like in your house with guns and supplies.
Some water.
That's what you want.
You want water, a whole lot of water.
You want a whole lot of food that'll last.
And you want a generator and you want guns.
That's what you fucking need to be fucking, you know, prepared.
And it is, you know, it's funny because I, you know, I've been in these libertarian circles or whatever.
I mean, I'm not really in libertarian circles.
We're a circle.
We're sitting in a circle right now.
Yeah, you mean?
Yeah, there's my circle.
Let's hold it.
It's a real, yeah.
We got a circle.
This circle is going to fucking.
We're going to come in here.
We got a whole circle.
All right.
It's going to fucking take.
We're a circle of libertarian.
It's going to take five minutes for this circle to be penetrated.
No, I mean, I really run in like a comedian circle more than anything else, but I've been, you know, in the libertarian space mentally for a long time.
And a lot of people are concerned with this stuff.
And there's a lot of like survivalists and a lot of people who are like, look, man, like, you know, shit's going to hit the fan soon.
And the roosters are going to come home to roost.
How does that go?
Anyway, but the point is, I've always had that in my mind and been like, I'm never really prepared.
I pay like almost like a token.
Well, I have this and I have that.
But really, if the shit hits the fan, I'm not prepared.
And that has really been freaking me out over the last few days.
Now seeing that, it's a whole, now seeing it just, even if this isn't the thing, you know, you almost realize that it doesn't even have to be a real thing.
It could just be the panic about a thing that's not even the thing.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
And now I got a kid and stuff.
And I'm like, yeah, I got to get the fuck out of the city.
I got to get the fuck out of the city.
I got to go buy a house, have some land, have some guns, protect my family.
Anyway, yeah, it's starting to fuck with me a bit.
And then there's just these things where you're like, fuck.
I just saw, literally just saw minutes before we started this that they canceled South by Southwest Festival this year.
And you're like, what?
Stop scaring me.
Really?
You're canceling like one of the biggest festivals in the country?
I really don't want to fly for Skank Fest.
Yeah.
I mean, here's the thing.
I really don't do anything outside of being in my apartment at work.
But even that, it's like, you guys aren't as careful as I am.
I fucking hand sanitize.
I keep clean.
But the fucking vermin that come in and out of this place, there's going to be no dodging it.
You can be as careful as you want to be, but if you're leaving your, my roommate, my roommate's not as careful as I am.
I could go to Connecticut now and hunker day.
Like, you're not dodging it.
My roommate's really careful.
I call her my wife.
She's super careful.
She's on top of that shit, but I still feel like it's, you know, you can only protect so much.
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Look, I don't, I'm not trying to alarm anybody.
Like, I don't actually think, I don't think the coronavirus is going to be the thing.
It's almost like what's freaking me out more is just what I've learned from this scare about when the thing is.
I don't think this thing is deadly, but I don't even like getting sick.
I think that this is just, it seems to be a more contagious virus than like your typical flu or whatever else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, like I was saying before on the show, it's also just the fear of the unknown.
Yeah.
Like if you, if, if there was no such thing as the flu and this year was the first year of the flu and you just put the flu down on paper and explained to people what it was, people would freak the fuck out.
You'd be like, like, I mean, I don't have the numbers right in front of me, but it's something in the ballpark of like, there are tens of thousands of people who die of the flu in this country every year.
There are hundreds of thousands of people who are hospitalized with the flu every year.
And there are like millions who get it.
Might even be tens of millions who get it every year.
I don't know.
Double check me on all these numbers.
But if that was just like a new thing that didn't exist, you'd be like, what the fuck?
And they'd be like, oh, yeah, by the way, it kills like babies and old people and all this shit.
And it's like, holy fuck, that would be crazy.
People would lose their minds.
But it's just always been here with us and it happens every year.
And, you know, you kind of realize, yeah, for the most part, you get the flu.
It fucking sucks.
And then you're fine.
And most people have had it, you know.
Maybe not most people, but a lot of people have had it.
And, you know, it's just, it's what you know.
Like, it's, you know, I remember, I don't know why this memory just popped into my head, but it was an old episode of Stossel on Fox Business.
And he used to like, Stossel's got this great thing about him where he's like, he's just like a weird, autistic guy.
So he'll say things like that in a way that like, you're like, oh, I never thought about it that way before.
And kind of like bluntly with no emotion behind it.
But he was, the point he was making was something against the regulatory state and how crazy the regulatory state is.
But he was like, he goes, well, let's say he goes, you can't even blame the regulators because they're, you know, in some sense, they're just trying to do their job.
But let's say you're the regulator and I had an idea.
And in order to do this, you know, it was like I would have to run like an odorless tasteless or whatever gas through your home.
And if, and it's highly flammable, you know, like it could blow up your whole fucking building if you don't notice that it's on and it kills like hundreds of people every year and blah, blah, blah, you know, and just describing it.
And was like, you know, would you approve this?
Would you say that risk is okay?
And we can have, and like the person was like, no, of course not.
That's like outrageous.
And he's like, yeah, well, it's a gas stove.
Like, that's what I'm talking about.
But the reason that's fine is because we invented the gas stove before the regulatory state.
And so there was no regulator sitting there being like, no, I won't allow this.
But we wouldn't accept that again.
And if I just proposed that as like some new thing, you'd be like, holy shit, this seems dangerous.
But because it's just there, we just kind of accept it.
Like, oh, yeah, that's whatever.
That's, that's part, it's baked into the cake of what we expect life to be.
Like, yeah, you have a gas stove and yeah, that shit could kill you.
But, you know, you got to be careful.
You got to turn it off.
But anyway, it's like there's a big part of the coronavirus that is that.
It's like, oh, this is new.
We don't fucking understand it.
The new is scary.
But it's just to see like these people kind of freaking out about it and then shelves being empty.
And you just realize it's not that you don't know this stuff already, but it's just kind of a reminder and it's right in your face of just how dependent we all are on so many other people.
You know, there's something beautiful about that.
Something really beautiful.
Like none of us could live the lives we live without this amazing division of labor.
You know, like this amazing thing where like hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions of people, and all their work and knowledge and, you know, all their specialization comes together just to the point where like we can be fucking talking into microphones that goes into the,
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you know, the internet that then is downloaded on your computer and we're wearing these clothes and we're drinking these drinks and we're, you know, and there's like so many people, like none of us have the knowledge to know how to do even like a fraction of that stuff, like actually produce it.
It's like tons and tons of people that are involved in this.
But then you start to realize like if it's, if it's just taken away, you're like, oh, shit, you know, I've gotten very cushy in my life.
And you kind of like, you hit a light switch and you just expect lights to go on.
I got Leo from Retro 2 Pizza.
Me and him meatball subs.
No problem.
I don't think Rob's getting the point.
I don't think Leo is enough.
They just need one or two.
I like that name, though, right?
Critical relationships in your life.
That's it.
But what if the pizza stuffs, like, what if the dough stops getting delivered?
Now, Leo.
Oh, that guy fucking makes handmade dough, man.
I've seen them in that kitchen.
They make dough.
You know what?
You might be okay.
He's probably got a month of freezer.
That's it.
That's all it takes.
All these people out in the wilderness trying to build their bunkers.
I got a pizza shop.
Rob was found dead six hours later.
Rob?
Rob didn't even make it half a day.
Anyway, let's hope we're all going to be fine.
Take some precautions.
Did you see the video that went viral of that chick?
I forget what she was from, like the health department or the CDC or something like that.
But she was reading off the instructions.
And she's like, what you want to do is make sure you don't touch your face or mouth.
And then she goes to flip the page and like licks her finger to flip the page.
Oh, yeah, it got like millions of views.
Went super viral.
God damn it.
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Did you see the black dude on the subway spraying for breeze at an Asian man?
No.
No.
It's also hilarious.
Feel like I, you know, if I'm being completely honest, I grew up in New York City.
I've probably seen that before, but that's that'll solve it.
But it's also great because it was for breeze, not Lysol.
Like, at least Lysol would so it makes sense.
But then there also hasn't been a single, you want to spray it at the Jews.
The Jews are the ones that seem to be getting sick thus far.
Well, I saw something about a rabbi.
Yeah, Yeshiva University shutting it down.
Yeah, my wife sent me a picture of, or like a screen cap of that shit.
Yeah.
With a subtle, like, you're people.
You're doing this.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Luckily for me, I'm a self-hating Jew.
I've isolated myself from all the others.
Whew.
All right.
Well, I don't really have anything constructive to say about it.
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And I just want to make clear again.
Let me bookend this one more time by saying, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about with this coronavirus shit.
So go find a better source than me if you want to get it.
Invest in a friend that owns a pizza shop early.
You got to get in before the tragedy, eat there every night for two years, have dinner, really make the guy a part of your life, have conversations with him.
And then you'll be good when disaster strikes.
I don't feel comfortable endorsing that recommendation.
I don't know if you have the two years to put in to develop this pizza relationship.
And I'll be honest, I'm not sure it's really going to save you in the end.
But take it from Robbie the Fire.
There it is.
All right.
Let's get to something that I know a little bit something about.
Let's transition to something that I can more successfully pretend to know something about.
And that's politics.
The world of politics.
There's just been a lot going on lately.
So I did a Super Tuesday recap episode without you, Rob, on Wednesday, and you were out.
And yeah, this whole thing has changed dramatically in the last few days.
I was pretty stunned.
But now looking back at it, it's kind of like maybe I shouldn't have been as stunned.
And then also there's just, I try to like, I've been thinking more about just learning the lessons because that's what you want to do when you get something wrong.
You want to be like, okay, well, what did I get wrong here?
And what lessons can I learn from this?
But I'm curious, what were your thoughts on the Joe Biden resurgence?
We got nothing wrong.
Who would have thought that the American people were so stupid that they will push forward with that blubbering fool who most likely has dementia?
Firstly, I am thrilled that it happened.
I couldn't be happier because this is going to be the funnest election ever.
We're going to watch montages of that guy sniffing kids, which, by the way, he hasn't quit.
Did you see they put that baby in front of him?
Oh, he got right in there.
He couldn't help himself but taking a nice whiff of that baby skin.
You know, I'll tell you, I have a baby.
And I'm just trying to meet Joe Biden halfway.
They smell good.
Babies do smell good.
It's that Johnson and Johnson smell.
No, we don't want to use Johnson.
You can use Johnson and Johnson?
That's bullshit.
It's no tears.
Yeah, yeah.
It does give tears.
No, we use high-quality products.
What about baby powder?
You're not using any baby powder on your baby?
No, you don't use baby powder anymore.
Dude, you're out of the loop.
You don't know what you're talking about, but they just smell great.
Babies smell great.
I mean, not when they poop all over themselves, but after you clean them up, they smell amazing.
So I'll give Joe Biden, you know, I understand.
Maybe he just wants that fresh baby smell.
But you would think, you know, you're running for president.
You got to be a little disciplined here.
Words out.
People think it's kind of weird that you're sniffing kids so much.
And then he also sniffs like nine-year-olds, and there's no excuse for that.
Nine-year-olds smell like shit.
Nobody thinks nine-year-olds smell good.
They're just dirty.
They smell like boogers and fucking coopers.
They don't wash their hands.
I don't wash my hands when I was nine.
No one watched that hands.
You have to really teach me.
There's nothing worse than nine-year-old hands.
But it's just the fact that he won't stop.
Yeah, that's somewhat alarming.
Anyway, your point.
This is going to be entertaining.
You're selling me on this.
Oh, my God.
It's going to be so fun because Trump is going to be hilarious with it.
And there's so much to attack him on.
And I know I'm not the only one that said it.
The fact that it was such a crowded field means that we didn't get that much footage of him just blubbering and being a fucking idiot.
He is so stupid.
Not only is he stupid, I think he has dementia now.
I really think he's lost his marbles.
And they're going to have to try and pretend.
Yes, no, you're absolutely right.
Look, Joe Biden was always gaff prone.
He was always a liar.
I don't know if you've seen there's video that's been going viral that resurfaced that where Joe Biden is bragging about how he got he finished in the top of his class after getting a scholarship and he got freedom.
He was never after he was in jail with Nelson Mandela.
Right.
This is right around the time.
Okay.
So, and this is like decades old of him bragging about this.
I think this was in 1988 or something like that.
And then it just like it comes out and they're like, first off, he got a half scholarship.
He finished in the bottom of his class and he only got one degree.
Like this is just all lies.
And then he claimed he was like, oh, I misremembered, which is, you know, utter bull.
So he was always a liar.
He was always prone to gaffes.
But there is no question Joe Biden is in decline.
I throw around the term senile sometimes.
I don't know technically.
You know, I don't know.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm certainly not his doctor.
But there is no question that he's lost a step.
I'm telling you, you know, like in TV shows, when a character gets a concussion, he's walking around seeing everything as claymation.
You went into Joe Biden's head.
That's what he's seeing.
Yeah.
I think you might be right.
Like kids actually look like a bouquet of roses to him, and he thinks he's supposed to sniff it.
Well, there's something going on there, and you're absolutely right that he has been able, especially because for most of the debates, there were like 10 people on stage, or at least like six people on stage.
There's been a lot of attention on other candidates, a lot of attention on Bernie Sanders, you know, Elizabeth Warren, Mike Bloomberg, people like that.
And he hasn't had to, and even in those limited, you know, debates or those debates where he has limited time to speak, he's done very poorly and he's embarrasses himself.
When you move to a general, it's going to be, there'll be nothing else to talk about except Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
He's 50% of the race and he's going to have to speak a lot more.
He's going to have to be campaigning regularly, giving speeches.
He's going to have to be doing debates.
Even now, he's going to have to be doing debates where it's just him and Bernie Sanders.
He's 50% of the time.
This is going to be glorious.
Did you see the Romney thing?
What about him?
So Romney, I think, either blocked or is going to block further investigations of Bernie Sanders.
Of Burisma.
Yes, I did.
I read this.
Wild.
I mean, that guy is so entrenched in whatever this deep state war machine is that's pushing for Biden.
Well, look, I mean, it's not even just the deep state.
I mean, that's part of it, right?
Like, there is like kind of the shadow government and these like agencies, all these three-letter agencies That have ungodly amounts of power and, you know, put all this pressure on politicians.
And, you know, they, you know, whatever.
We've talked about it a million times on the show.
But just like Chuck Schumer said, they have six ways till Sunday to screw you over.
You know, all that stuff.
But then there's also, there we go.
Yeah, Mitt Romney.
Oh, he ended up three hours ago.
Oh, he ended up not blocking.
Oh, there you go.
I guess there was enough bad press about it.
Yeah, probably.
But anyway, there's, you know, if you really want to understand, not even understand, but if you just want a little bit of a fucking, you know, an insight, a little indication into how this thing works, I mean, just understand that within the course of three days, three days in this whole primary season, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Budigej, Beto O'Rourke, and Michael Bloomberg all endorsed Joe Biden.
Three of them had active campaigns going, dropped them, and endorsed Joe Biden.
Beto comes out at the exact same time and endorses Joe Biden.
I mean, that is like obviously.
The whole party got together.
Yes, obviously there is coordination here.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is not, you know, just like, oh, this randomly all happened on this one little, you know, in this one little window where it was super important to, no, look, here's what I would say that I, what I underestimated that I've learned from Super Tuesday.
Number one, the Democratic establishment has their shit together a lot more than the Republican establishment did.
That's something that I really underestimated.
You know, I just saw so many signs in the Bernie campaign, and I was really thinking, you know, this is just like 2016 with Trump.
It's the same thing.
The establishment wants to stop him, but this thing's gotten out of control and they can't, you know what I mean?
They can't, there was not as much anti-establishment fervor in the Democratic base.
There was a lot, but not nearly as much as there was in the Republican base.
And the Democratic establishment, they, who, they really, like, they're on their shit a lot more than the Republican establishment is too.
And the other thing.
Bernie doesn't appeal to as wide of a net.
That's at the end of the day, he didn't attract as many young voters.
Well, I think there's, I think there's something to that.
There's definitely something to that, that Bernie Sanders is going after the demographic that leaves you at the altar.
There's a problem there.
In many ways, I think Donald Trump was just a smarter, even if on an instinctual level, a smarter candidate than Bernie Sanders is.
Which is, you know, Bernie Sanders is a lifelong politician and Donald Trump, this was his first attempt.
But look, you can just look at how they went about things.
Donald Trump made sure to appeal to broad swaths of the election.
And that's why, you know, there was kind of even the things that would really bother me about Trump.
Like I hated when he would, in the campaign, he would be promising to never touch entitlement programs.
I mean, let's like get real.
And it's funny to watch Bernie Sanders bashing Joe Biden for talking about that.
You know, like, it's like, I'm no fan of Joe Biden, but that was like one of the reasonable things he ever said.
And that's a big problem in the Democratic Party.
Like, if you're reasonable for five seconds, you will be bashed for all eternity for doing that.
But like, if you're, if you're, if you're serious about saving this country from collapsing, you have to look at entitlement programs.
There's, there's some, I mean, go look at the numbers.
It depends on what, like, what estimate and what time span you're looking at.
But there's like tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities in Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid, but particularly in Medicare and Social Security.
I mean, the programs are like these forced Ponzi schemes that are going to go belly up.
And that's just like, nope, we're going to lie.
We're going to lie to the American people until they go belly up.
You're not allowed to talk about that.
And even modest proposals like maybe we should raise the retirement age.
Maybe we should trim around budgets.
You know, like that, you're just blasted for that.
But Donald Trump would promise, I will protect your Social Security.
I'll protect your Medicare instead of leveling with the American people and being like, look, all these politicians blew this.
But he knows what he's doing.
He's like, well, I'm not going to alienate the old vote.
They show up.
So I'm going to fucking make sure I have them.
And that's that.
And so he, in many ways, he knew how to play the game.
And I think maybe he wasn't a politician, but he had such a long career of being a self-promoter and a marketer that he just knew.
He was like, no, that's bad marketing.
Why would I ever say that?
You know?
And somehow Donald Trump was able to do these things where he could sell himself to the kind of anti-war crowd who was tired of these wars.
And he could also sell himself to the pro-military side of the Republican Party who was really for all these wars.
Like he could be like, I'm the toughest guy out there.
We're going to bomb the crap out of them and torture their families.
But we fight these stupid wars and we're not going to fight any more of these wars and somehow get both of those guys to kind of project their own savior into him.
It's weird.
And, you know, in many ways, I think he's a fucking con artist, but he's good at it.
So anyway, I just, I just, I think I underestimated how much the Democratic, how powerful the Democratic establishment is.
And also, I think I maybe, and this one I should have been better on, is that I maybe didn't realize that there isn't as much hatred for the mainstream media amongst Democratic voters as there was amongst Republican voters.
Now, there certainly is a lot of animosity there, but I think it's not quite what it is on the Republican side.
I mean, even like the Republican complaints about the media are as old as me, at least.
I mean, the liberal media, as they used to always call it, you know, that was like their whole thing forever was, you know, oh, the liberal media.
And that even like a very like moderate Republican dad would hate the liberal media.
And so when the media tried to, you know, ruin Donald Trump, it was very easy for them to be like, yeah, no, I'm not buying into any of that shit.
Whereas I think when the media tried to ruin Bernie Sanders, it seemed to have had more of an effect.
Now, again, I'm just, it's not that there isn't, there aren't people on the Democratic side who are like, the media is full of shit, but it just seems like it's not nearly as like it hasn't boiled over quite as much as it did on the other side.
So there were these things and it all ended up resulting in a big, big, big day for Joe Biden.
So since the last podcast, I guess the big news, the big news, Brzezinski, is that Elizabeth Warren has dropped out of the race.
RIP to the great Native American hope, Elizabeth Warren.
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She's gone.
She's ended her campaign.
And you have to hope that all women just learn their lesson here.
Yeah.
If you're female, you got no chance in life.
Yeah.
You can't do nothing.
There's sexism.
Wherever you go, you're not going to get ahead.
It's built in that because you're a lady, people are going to dislike you less.
All right, that's our show for today, guys.
That's really all I had to say about it.
All right, I guess we'll continue for a little bit more.
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Expanding on Rob's point, yes, she never had a shot.
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It's not that she was unlikable and had no reason for running for president, that she basically just embraced a watered-down version of Bernie Sanders' proposals, that she tried to out-woke everybody.
She talked about just that she was a woman.
Or what about talking about, well, I'm the plan person.
I'm the one who can get things done because I really sit down, do my homework, and I have a plan.
And everyone went, well, what's your healthcare plan?
Oh, that doesn't make any sense.
And she said, well, you just don't, it's not the full plan.
You only got a part of the plan.
Yeah.
No, the point is it wasn't any of that.
It was just that she had a vagina.
That's the lesson to take out of this.
It's not that she is a complete liar and a phony who pretended to be a Native American to advance her career and then backed off of that and then told six other lies.
It's not that she fucking, you know, drank a beer for evidently the first time ever on a live stream and was, you know, it's not that.
It's not that she's the fakest human being you've ever seen in your life.
It's just that she's a woman.
That is absolutely the message that the corporate press wants to make sure that you that you accept.
And it is, dude, I told you this.
Would it be great if we actually lived in the country the way that it's portrayed by the media, that there are so many racists who support Donald Trump and everyone hates women?
That country sounds like fun to me.
What state are they portraying?
Because I'll go live there.
Every other person who meets a Nazi is a fucking, it's a wild country, according to the corporate press.
It is a real wild place to exist.
Yeah, it's been, you know, it's like I said this a couple podcasts ago, but I was talking about with Mayor Pete, with Kamala Harris, how these campaigns, as soon as they're over, then they tell you what this is, like what this was really all about.
And I understand why they don't want to tell you during the campaign, because it would make the campaign seem like you have no value.
I mean, if you're, if you're, uh, if Elizabeth Warren just came out and was like, well, I'm, I'm a woman, so I'll be the first woman president.
And they were like, well, what's what about your plans or your this or what's your vision?
And it's just like, eh, whatever.
I'm a woman.
That's, that's it.
I'm a woman.
You'd go, okay, well, I'm probably not going to vote for that person.
And we would all bash them, and rightfully so.
And if Mayor Pete was like, well, I'm gay.
That's my thing.
I'm gay.
You know, have any of the other presidents sucked cock in the White House?
And that's what I bring to the table.
We would go, probably.
And he'd go, yeah, but did they tell you about it?
Did they do it and then brag about it after?
And you go, no, that's right.
Forget about plans.
Forget about policy.
Forget about the debt.
I'm going to be in the White House sucking on some dick.
I'll be honest, you're selling me on this guy.
This guy, I might have crossed party lines and gone over.
I might have left the Libertarian Party to go vote for a Democrat if he had just been ballsy enough.
No pun intended.
But then as soon as they're out, it seems like that is the message.
Like as soon as Mayor Pete's like, well, he led all that.
This was the significance of his campaign, is that all these gay kids saw an openly gay guy out there.
And, you know, feel however you feel about that.
It's just a little bit strange that the day, like the day before, that's not what you're talking about.
And then the day after they drop out of the race, that's the story.
So Elizabeth Warren, I mean, yes, she would bring up being a woman and, you know, call everybody sexist fairly often, but it was right.
Like you said, I thought her whole thing was, I have a plan and I have a vision and this and that, and she's a fighter and all of these things.
But as soon as she's out, it's like, oh, sexism.
This is, I mean, it's not like we're exaggerating.
I mean, what is it?
You sent me an article earlier today.
The Vox, the Vox article.
The title is Why Women Are Feeling So Defeated After Elizabeth Warren's Loss.
That's the title of their article.
Why women are feeling so defeated, which is just so, it's so fucking ridiculous.
Women are a majority, not only of the country, but they are a majority of the Democratic voters.
So you can sit here and say, women are feeling so terrible after Elizabeth Warren left.
Well, really?
If Elizabeth Warren carried the woman vote, she'd be the nominee.
Like, no, I'm sorry.
Actually, women, in part, decided that they liked these men better than they liked her.
Maybe there's a reason for that.
Maybe it's because Elizabeth Warren didn't feel, listen, Elizabeth Warren doesn't know why she's running to be president.
None of these fucking people do, except like Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, who all, by the way, doesn't get the woman protection for whatever reason.
But Bernie Sanders and these other, like Elizabeth Warren is basically like, so like when it comes down to Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, and Elizabeth Warren, it's like, why Elizabeth Warren?
Well, because Joe Biden's a little bit too moderate and Bernie Sanders is a little bit too radical or something like that.
Well, why randomly should we be where you are?
Like, why is that?
That's it.
You're just like, eh, well, I kind of want all the same things as Bernie Sanders, but not Bernie and also not Joe Biden.
It's like, okay, well, if you were going to go for a moderate, you know what I mean?
Well, here's Joe Biden with more experience, more qualified than you are.
Like, you've been a senator for a little while.
He was a senator for forever and he's been the vice president.
He's more qualified to do the job than you.
And if you wanted to go for a progressive or a Democratic socialist, well, Bernie Sanders, while you were a Republican, Bernie Sanders was praising every socialist movement around the world.
So why would anyone pick you?
What's the reasoning behind it?
Also, it's not a very empowering message to take someone who is unlikable and was never going to be qualified, as you said, busted for lying.
And her whole thing was, I had a plan and she didn't go, well, it's because of her sex.
Yeah.
And so while also being like, hey, we need to figure out a way to empower women.
So to take that this fault was that a woman thing, a non-unlikability thing?
I mean, it would be as ridiculous as when Barack Obama beat John McCain for president.
If you went, well, what's the takeaway here?
The country hates white people.
That's the takeaway.
I mean, I guess 2008 America, you must just hate white people because why else would you have voted for the black guy instead of the white guy?
And you might sit there and go, eh, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, he was a Republican and there were eight years of a Republican president.
And, you know, there were like two disastrous wars and a big financial collapse and people weren't really happy with the handling of Katrina and the debt went up.
And like, you know, you can like find all these other reasons.
And Barack Obama is like charismatic and he's new and he was promising change.
And all, you know, like there's, there's so many other things you could explain.
And how dumb is it to just reduce it to, well, it's because he was white.
That's why John McCain didn't win in 2008.
Now, by the way, it's not, it's not, I say it, how dumb is it?
It's not just that it's like fucking dumb.
There's more to it than that.
I mean, there's a lot of like the people on Twitter who you see just like, I'm heartbroken because a woman can't be president.
They're dumb.
But the people who like kind of shape this narrative from a little bit higher up, they're not dumb.
They know what they're doing.
It's like a naked power play.
It's like, feel bad about yourself.
You're sexist.
Now let's use that for whatever we can get out of it.
But it's just, it's disgusting.
And it's, it's the idea that anyone's supposed to buy that, that Elizabeth Warren losing some or dropping out somehow proves anything about people's views toward women.
You know, it's one woman who was terrible.
Let's lower the collective self-esteem of women and hope they come out sluttier, you know?
That's what I'm hoping when I'm 50 to 30.
You got a plan.
I'm a 30-year-old.
So, you know, let's just keep lowering that collective self-esteem.
No, at least you got a plan for the future.
I'll tell you that much.
Anyway, there was a segment on The View about this, which was pretty goddamn entertaining.
So I think we'll play that one.
You got that queued up, Brian?
Yeah, let's play the View and we'll do our normal thing where we pause this and break it down.
But man, this was funny.
Elizabeth Warren announced she was suspending her presidential campaign and she opened up about it in a press conference outside her home and on Rachel Maddow's show last night.
Take a look.
One of the hardest parts of this is all those picky promises and all those little girls who are going to have to wait four more years.
There's a feeling that your campaign ending is very specific to you and it also feels a little bit like a death knell in terms of the prospects of having a woman for president in our lifetimes.
Oh God, please no.
That can't be right.
You know what I'm talking about.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
This cannot be the right answer.
Let's pause it right there.
So that's, I mean, first off, I love these things.
It's kind of like when a football player thanks God after a game, you know, like, and it's like, it's this like incredible narcissism, but you mask it in like humility.
Like you mask it in this like, oh, I'm just being a nice person here.
I'm thanking God.
See, I'm not even taking the credit for scoring that touchdown.
I'm saying that God touched me to make me score this touchdown.
You know what I mean?
And you're like, that's actually the most narcissistic, like out of control thing anyone's ever said, but you kind of like put yourself out there like some nice guy.
I mean, for her to just be like, you know, she goes, yeah, no, I know what you're talking about, but that just can't be it.
It can't be right that women are just screwed because the American people didn't want me.
That must mean they hate 50% of the population, or I think 52%.
And the ones with the vaginas.
Yeah, all of them.
All of them.
And why?
Why would anyone even come to the conclusion, as Rachel Maddow says, that in our lifetimes, there can never be a female president because they didn't like this woman?
What?
I mean, okay.
I mean, why was it her?
Why wasn't it Hillary Clinton, by the way?
Oh, by the way, Tulsi Gabbard's still in the fucking race.
But why wasn't it when Sarah Palin lost in 2008?
I guess this means a woman can never be vice president or whatever, right?
Like, why?
What a ridiculous, like, what are you even basing this assumption on?
This is just utterly illogical.
And, you know, it's a couple of broads having a conversation.
So it kind of makes sense.
Anyway, even the ladies of the view, even Whoopi, seem to kind of see the ridiculousness, the absurdity of that claim.
So let's keep playing.
All those great women that are out still out there.
I don't think anybody thinks they're not going to run.
I mean, I want Stacey Abrams to run at some point.
I want her out there.
You know, there are a lot of, I think, women have this idea that, you know, now there's not going to be, look, it took us, what, 150 years to get a black president, and we would shock as hell about that.
Well, you know.
My feeling is, though, and I have a really good friend who's like a diehard Warren supporter, and she's really upset.
I talked to her yesterday.
And I think there's this feeling, though, that I believe she's a much better candidate than Bernie.
I think she was smarter, more likable.
I think that goes to men and women.
I think she was more prepared.
And the debate should completely knock Bloomberg out at the knees.
And I think there's this feeling where you have to go.
So already, it's like Megan McCain.
So John McCain's daughter is going to go like, well, I have a friend who likes Elizabeth Warren and is really upset.
And like, I think she's a better candidate than Bernie Sanders.
And it's like, yeah, of course you do, John McCain's daughter.
Yeah, that's right.
You know people who like Elizabeth Warren and you think she's better than Bernie Sanders.
What a shock.
What a shock.
Now you're going to say she's more likable than Bernie Sanders?
To who?
To people that eat four lunches.
I mean, to John McCain's daughter.
Right.
Okay.
I mean, go look at their favorability ratings.
Bernie Sanders is way higher than Elizabeth Warren.
And anybody, if you're describing, I'm sorry, if you're describing Elizabeth Warren as likable, you may not have an accurate appraisal of what's going on.
She was not likable.
She was horrible.
She was like a scold.
She was like your asshole boss.
That was the energy that she had.
She was only one click better than Hillary Clinton in terms of likability.
But it just shows you how fucking removed people are that they'd go like, you know, like, I hate socialism.
Hate it.
And I even think Bernie's somewhat likable.
Like, he presents okay.
I thought she was horrible.
And anyway, it's just like, what exactly you're basing this on is, it's divorced from reality.
Anyway, let's keep playing.
Like, Klobuchar, Warren, Kamala Harris is a sitting senator, who gender really did come into play.
And I'm not the first person to always say this, but the way they're covered by the media, it's the way they look.
They're too likable.
They're not likable enough.
They're too shrill.
She's not smart enough.
She's not warm enough.
And it's everything.
Pause it.
Do you see what they do here?
Do you see how fucking ridiculous this thing is?
She goes, all these women, their gender really came into play.
So she's like, they had a harder road because they were women.
And what's her evidence of this?
Well, the media would say they're not likable enough.
She is not 10 full seconds removed from saying Bernie Sanders wasn't likable enough.
Not 10 full seconds removed from that.
And she still doesn't see the irony in going like, well, here's the thing.
If you're a woman that men never have to deal with, people talk about whether they're likable.
You just did that.
Just did that to Bernie Sanders.
I've never heard Trump criticized by the media.
Not once.
Yeah, I know, not once.
He didn't have to push past that.
Dude, I remember this one.
I definitely mentioned this on the podcast, but this was years ago, but I remember on Joy Reed, her A.M. Joy, her show on MSNBC.
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So they do this segment at the end of the show called Who Won the Week.
I don't know if they still do it.
They used to do the segment.
And it was like everyone on the panel gets to say like, who did something great this week?
Okay.
And they have a whole discussion on the panel.
First, they do a discussion, then they go into that segment.
So first they do a discussion about how unfair the media is to Hillary Clinton.
And it's all like, oh, well, people judge, is she too shrill?
Is she too angry?
Is she too this?
Is she too that?
And they're like, it's just sexism in the media, you know?
And then they go to who won the week.
And the person that Joy Reed picks, not one of her panelists, she picks the person who won the week was the person who here in Union Square in New York City made a naked statue of Donald Trump with a micro penis.
That was the statue.
And this is who she, while she's talking about sexism in the media, she just seamlessly moves into the next segment moves into, and here's Donald Trump with a micro penis.
Aha, aha ha.
Like, what?
And you just don't, so you just claim there's this double standard and don't feel the need to demonstrate any evidence.
And even all the evidence you're listing, like the things you're listing are, you, I mean, you just contradicted yourself a few seconds, a few seconds earlier.
It's, I mean, I don't even know.
It might, I think it was the next sentence, but I don't think there was a sentence in between.
Her saying Bernie Sanders wasn't likable.
And oh, by the way, you know how hard it is to be a woman?
They'll question your likability.
This is the fucking view.
This is what happens when these women get together on a daytime show and it's a show by women talking to women.
They just like have this fucking like, this, I was going to say arrogance, but it's just like they get on this like this like I am woman, hear me roar thing.
Like we're so up against it and all this stuff, blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, wait, hold on.
Actually look at it.
Now, look, I'm not, I'm not discounting the fact that perhaps there are different standards by which men and women are judged, but it's not as clear-cut as men have the advantage, women have the disadvantage.
Now, I remember when Chris Christie was running for president, they put him on the cover of Time magazine and the caption read, the elephant in the room.
By the way, hilarious.
I'm not shitting on Time magazine.
It was one of their better covers.
But that, if that was a woman, there would have been outrage over just making a thinly, thinly veiled reference to her being fat.
That would have been like, oh, just like a national story.
Like, it would have been huge.
No pun intended.
But it wasn't.
It was just a fat guy.
So everyone's like, whatever, get over it.
You're just expected to get over that.
It's like, of course there are double standards, but so many of them play into women's favors.
And this is what I hate when people say like, oh, Elizabeth Warren, you know, it's like, well, she had, she was so up against it because she's a woman.
Here's the reality of the situation.
Elizabeth Warren wouldn't have gotten nearly as far if she wasn't a woman.
That was the thing that she had to offer.
That was the one hammer that she had to hit other people with.
Oh, I'm a woman.
Bernie Sanders is sexist.
Mike Bloomberg is sexist.
This was the thing she had.
So don't give me this bullshit.
Anyway, let's keep playing.
Every woman that runs, and I think there's a feeling of exhaustion among a lot of American women.
Like, when is the media going to throw some of these female candidates?
By the way, not just presidential candidates, candidates across the board and women in politics across the board.
When are we going to start treating them like men?
And I'm always hopeful that each election cycle, they will.
And then I'm disappointed that they don't.
And by the way, this is something that's been going on since our entire lifetimes.
I saw it front and center with Sarah Palin, and I think there's been horrible trends on Ford, and they're just treated differently.
And Elizabeth Warren has a very classy response.
I'm almost done.
She says, if I complain about it, I'm a whiner.
And if I don't recognize it, I look delusional.
And I think that was a great answer.
Well, in the patriarchy that we find ourselves, you know, a man can be angry, a woman cannot be.
Bernie is always angry.
I like him very much.
He's a good guy, but he always comes across as angry.
Elizabeth Warren can't come across that way.
You know, so they have similar agendas, the two of them, too.
Do you really believe that Elizabeth Warren can't come across as angry?
She always came across as angry.
Always.
She came across far angrier than Bernie Sanders does.
Bernie Sanders has some moments where he, he doesn't, I wouldn't describe Bernie Sanders as coming off angry.
He comes off like peeved.
Like Bernie Sanders always comes off like, even Bernie Sanders' anger is somewhat entertaining until it turns into when you're watching him and you can see he gets called on something and he's frustrated.
Yes.
And those moments he's very bad at it.
Yeah.
And when it turns to him being frustrated, all of a sudden he's very unlikable and like it oozes that.
Elizabeth Warren was always in that space.
She was never like inciting a crowd.
You want to get behind her because she's angry at the machine.
It was more personal frustration because people weren't buying into her and that's very unlikable.
Yeah.
Oh, but I mean, look at the way she went after Bloomberg.
I mean, she was incredibly angry.
But in that case, she was kind of actually a little bit likable because she had like some winning energy.
Oh, it was her.
It was her, it was her at her best was when she was angry.
But this, but imagine, and you know, you kind of made this point before, but imagine the women of the view having this conversation.
You know, like what you were saying.
Yeah, before the most entitled people ever.
The idea that like women are being left behind.
You guys are lucky to have that fucking job making the fortunes that you're making as moderately talented people that comment on the news who are not that you only have this job because you're fucking women.
You're getting paid a shit ton of money.
I mean, you're talking about women who go and have this like ignorant conversation.
Don't know what the fuck they're talking about, contradicting themselves within 10 seconds, making millions of dollars sitting there talking about how unfair our society is to women.
That's like it's almost, it's a microcosm of modern, crazy, like corporate feminism.
You know what I mean?
Like that these women who have such cushy lives are so privileged, have so many advantages, sit there complaining about how they just feel like there's a double standard.
I feel like there is.
Also, what of McCain?
All right, so she's oddly attractive for a person as heavy as she is.
That's like a one skill set that she has.
But like, all right, you have this job because your dad was a very, very powerful senator and pleased the right people by always advocating for the war machine.
That's it.
That's the only reason you have that fucking.
But just imagine, I mean, being like, you're a senator's daughter.
You get the most perfect mother.
I mean, it's out of a, you know, like if you were to write a privileged character in a novel, it would be Megan McCain.
Like that would be just the wind is at your back.
Life is opened up to you.
I mean, there's like literally this would be, it would almost be like if you were trying to write a privileged character in a novel and you came up with this character, they'd be like, okay, this is like too blatant.
You got to like tone it down a little bit.
Like, you know, just make it someone who has like a good life.
But you're a senator's daughter who's kind of gifted this TV spot.
And then you're going to sit there and go, I've just seen it too much, the way women are treated in our society.
Okay.
Anyway, whatever.
Let's keep playing.
So we accept it in him, but not in her.
And let me just say this one thing.
In a normal year, without the horror show that's going on in the White House right now, I think that a woman could have had a better chance.
But we are in an emergency situation, and we could not take a chance on the massage in this country.
So she's saying that, listen...
It's Trump's fault.
No, I think what she's really saying is, listen, I would love to get behind a woman as well, but not in an emergency situation.
When you got an emergency situation, you got to trust a man.
I think that's...
Yeah, I mean, if things were good, sure, why?
Let's roll the dice with a chick.
But I mean, right now, you know, I'm a tough guy to go save the day.
Let's get real.
All right, let's keep playing.
Tree, ruining it for a woman.
And that's what is happening right now.
But that doesn't mean it doesn't say it's going to happen again.
I don't think it will next time.
People are getting smarter.
I think it'd be intellectually dishonest not to say being a woman plays into it, of course.
I don't think that's the only reason.
For me, Elizabeth Warren wasn't the right candidate for me politically.
And I would never insult a woman enough to say, I only voted for you because I'm a woman and you're a woman.
What about Klobuchar?
She was different from...
I really was a Pete, a Mayor Pete person.
I really liked him.
I really liked Andrew Yang.
I think the moderate, the closer to the middle you are, that probably is more representative of most people in this country, whether we hear enough of it.
So I think she was too far left for me.
But I also think...
I think people she was too far left for.
Yeah, but I also think we need to stop putting people in such a category.
Oh, look at that.
Yeah, there's other reasons besides the woman thing why even you guys don't like her.
But oh my God, it's just so ridiculous.
This is the post-mortem of Elizabeth Warren's campaign.
Let's keep on.
Not every black person thinks like every black person.
Not every woman thinks like every woman.
Not every young shocking information that I'm getting here.
All right.
Young person thinks like every young person.
We keep grouping everyone together, and that is limiting our potential.
We're more nuanced individual to individual.
There are probably men that think more like me than a lot of women do.
But you can't dismiss the misogyny and the sexuality.
No, but I think we're all a product of that.
We're all raised in the same time.
I probably have my own misogyny.
I watched the Taylor Swift documentary.
I wasn't raised at the same time you were.
Joy, I was doing you a solid by bringing you down.
That's okay.
But it's your answer.
Taylor Swift said something in her documentary that really hit me.
She said, I had to rid myself of my own misogyny.
It's kind of like someone who comes out.
People assume that because they're gay, they're okay with being gay.
They have a battle to fight to get to except themselves.
It's called consciousness raising.
That's what needs to be done.
And I think progress is being made when you look at the candidates we had.
It was a very diverse group of people.
Yes, we're down to two white men, but two old.
Old guys, too.
Okay.
I was like, no, I was doing them a solid as well.
But I think the point is that we're making progress.
Those stages are starting to be more colorful.
There's more there.
This is 60 years ago this didn't happen.
Yeah.
Okay, there weren't women.
60 years ago is not long ago.
But I think it's not.
Let's pause it right here.
You always know you're having a really substantive intellectual conversation when the great philosopher Taylor Swift is invoked.
That's when you know you're really breaking things down.
Of course, Joy Reid goes, you know, she makes this point that who could even deny this argument where she goes, you know, we're kind of putting people in these groups, which, I mean, she doesn't say this, but is the definition of racism and sexism.
We're going like, well, why did women vote this way or black people vote this way?
And she's like, you know, not all black people think the same way.
Not all women think the same way.
A lot of men are more similar to me than I am to other women and kind of, you know, making a pretty obvious but nuanced point.
And then Joy Reed's response is, but you can't dismiss the misogyny out there, which actually is a kind of telling, revealing statement.
No, you can't.
Like, you're not allowed to.
You're not allowed to pretend we're not in a misogynistic country.
You can't do that.
Right.
That's it right there.
You're just not, no, no argument.
Just you can't.
You can't do that.
That's crazy.
And then it's like, oh, well, Taylor Swift said I had to rid myself of my own, you know, misogyny or whatever.
It's all just very like, what does any of this have to do with the reality of the situation?
Look, if you want to actually claim that the reason why Elizabeth Warren failed is because of sexism, what you'd kind of have to say is that people thought Elizabeth Warren was the best person for the job, but still wouldn't support her.
They would screw themselves over by not putting the best person for the job up just because she's a woman, right?
Now, I suppose that's possible that that happened, but isn't the onus kind of on you to demonstrate, like if some black guy applied for a job and didn't get it and just went, it's racism.
That's why I didn't get the job.
Wouldn't your response be, okay, but isn't like what happened?
Was something said to you?
Was there some indication that this is why you didn't get the job?
Because you were racist?
Were you clearly more qualified than the other people who applied for the job?
And if they were just like, nope, no, I wasn't.
I was actually less qualified than the other people.
I was less qualified than Amy Klobuchar, less qualified than Biden, less qualified than Bernie Sanders, you know?
And you go, okay, so you were less qualified for the job and you didn't get the job, but you're just deciding it was because of racism?
Like, right, wouldn't isn't the onus on you to demonstrate that there's some bit of evidence that, and if your friend, your black friend who didn't get the job said, well, I didn't get the job because of racism.
And you go, well, what makes you think that?
And they're like, you can't deny racism.
Wouldn't you be like, that's a pretty weak case?
That's a pretty weak standard for that's why you didn't get this job.
Because understand what you're saying when you're saying someone didn't get the job.
Like if someone doesn't hire a black person just because they're black, you're saying that that employer would screw himself over just because he dislikes black people.
Now, I'm not saying that person doesn't exist out there.
I'm not saying that there's no sexist or no racist, but you're not even like the part of this also, like it just almost leads to this point where you're like, so maybe you should just like leave the country.
And I hate being that guy because I don't, you know, I don't think that's a solid argument.
I know people say that to libertarians sometimes too.
But if you really have this view that it is, people are so profoundly sexist that they would screw themselves over just to not support the woman, right?
And you're talking about the Democratic primary voters.
Obviously, the Republicans are all racist and sexist and xenophobe, homophobe, whatever.
But these are the Democrats you're talking about.
So even there, it's almost like, well, then it must just be so bad that there's no way you could ever succeed.
Of course, the problem is that in 2016, the nominee was a woman.
She won, right?
And she beat the same guy, Bernie Sanders.
I mean, you know, she had some help, but she beat him and she did win the popular vote, right?
So wouldn't you, if you like, know that Hillary Clinton got a few million votes more than Donald Trump and she won the Democratic nomination last time, wouldn't you go, yeah, it doesn't really make sense to me that sexism is the reason why Elizabeth Warren didn't win.
It could be something as simple as Elizabeth Warren is 100% fake.
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Everything about her is fake.
There's a reason why I've mentioned that tweet a bunch of times where she said transgender black women are the backbone of the country.
It's not that just that that's such a ridiculous thing to say.
It's just what that demonstrates about Elizabeth Warren.
That's it.
It's the same person who pretends to be a Native American, pretends to be fired for being pregnant, pretends Bernie Sanders is a sexist, pretends all these things.
It's that you will say something that you don't even kind of believe yourself.
Like no one believes this.
You'll just say anything.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe that's a more reasonable assumption that she lost because she was fake.
All right, let's keep playing.
Me, I was always raised.
My dad told me you can be president, Megan, like always.
And I feel like if I had a child right now and it was a girl, I don't know what I'd say anymore because I do think there, I, it's like there's this quote that like, where's my jetpack?
Where's my woman president?
Like, why are we still here as Americans?
And I think it's frustrating.
I love this to be a kid.
Pause it right there.
Okay.
So as Jetpack wouldn't get her off the ground.
You're a dick.
He just fucking anchored.
Just burn your feet.
Well, listen, let me just respond.
As somebody who does have a daughter, what am I going to tell her now that Elizabeth Warren has dropped out of the presidential race?
Nothing different from what I would have told her two days ago when Elizabeth Warren was still in the race.
It has zero effect on what I would tell my daughter that she can achieve in her life because of, I definitely wouldn't tell her to listen to these clucking hens on the view, you know, complain about how unfair the whole fucking system is.
I'd tell her, if you want something and you've got a talent for it and you love to do it, put everything you have behind it and you can achieve great things.
There's the answer to the question.
Are you telling me you would actually tell your daughter, well, sweetheart, you might as well just give...
I don't know what to tell you.
Elizabeth Warren didn't win the Democratic nomination.
So what shot is there for you?
What a weird.
Where's my female president?
I don't know.
Like, where's my fucking non-war criminal president?
I'm still waiting for that one.
Where's my female president?
I don't know.
Where's your female great candidate?
Like, where's the female Barack Obama?
You think that chick wouldn't win?
It's not, look, the idea that America's like not ready to elect a female president is such fucking bullshit.
Such fucking bullshit.
Hillary Clinton got millions more votes than Donald Trump did.
I'm sorry, she just couldn't get him in the areas where she needed to to win because we work under an electoral college system for good reason.
And she couldn't get him in the rust belt.
And it wasn't because she was a woman.
It was because she represented the fucking establishment class that sold them out for decades.
Those same people who hated Hillary Clinton loved Sarah Palin.
It's not that they're all so fucking sexist.
They just don't like you.
They don't like your bullshit.
And you don't like their bullshit, by the way.
And you don't like Sarah Palin's bullshit.
And they're all full of shit.
They all suck.
But it's like, there's no evidence.
You're just grasping at straws to suggest that there's actually sexism at play here.
Anyway, let's keep going.
Conservative woman, like happy if it's Nikki Haley or something like that.
But I do think women traditionally are better leaders in a lot of situations because we're more compassionate and more collaborative.
There's more collaborative.
I'm going to be 36 by the next election or almost, yeah, 36 next election.
Where's my woman president?
I would like a woman to be president.
Let's fucking, all right, let's, let's, we're done with that video here.
I just, I'm sorry, it actually just made me laugh.
It made me laugh the first time I watched this, and it made me laugh re-watching it where she just goes, it's amazing.
Like, women have, listen, I love women.
I love, like, my wife is the best person I've ever met.
I would die a million times over for my daughter.
Love my mother, my sister.
Lots of amazing women in my life.
But there is something that, generally speaking, women have that men don't seem to as much.
I'm sure there's, you know, exceptions to this rule, but where women just have this thing where they'll just start talking.
They'll be like, and I'm great.
And I know that I'm awesome and I'm great and I'm beautiful and I'm this.
And like, men don't tend to do that.
Men much more tend to be like, oh, piece of shit.
And I blah, blah, blah.
And it's so funny to get that Megan McCain can actually say in this group.
And of course, it gets nothing but applause.
And men never say anything.
We just go, yeah, you're right.
But nothing implies that she goes, women are better leaders, at least traditionally.
What?
Women are better leaders traditionally?
Look at history.
All the women, pretty much all of them.
I mean, find a leader throughout history who wasn't a woman.
It's hard to find.
It's this recent thing that there's been a shift in history and suddenly the woman can get elected.
And that's the sexist problem that they need to address in this episode.
We're more nurturing.
We're more caring.
We're more cooperative.
You almost want to sit there and go like, okay, what are men better at?
You tell me, since you're ready to lay out all the things women are better at, what are men better at?
You got anything?
Or is it just that you're better at everything than men are?
Like, it's just really amazing to watch.
Yes, women have always been better leaders.
Okay.
All right.
Sure.
Cool story, bro.
Cool story.
Women have traditionally been better leaders than men have.
There's always this bullshit they used to always say, like, if women were in charge of the world, there'd be no war.
And then the closest woman to ever become president was Hillary Clinton.
And you're like, yeah, I don't know about that one.
There might be just as much, if not more, war if women were president.
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Anywho, that's the Elizabeth Warren post-mortem from the media.
And it's not, it's all over the place.
And there are all these people online who are like, you know, anyway.
So the other thing that's more relevant, this is just kind of silly and fun, but the thing that is relevant was that in that Rachel Maddow interview, she took shots at Bernie Sanders.
She again started going, you know, kind of reaffirming this narrative, which I still have not seen any evidence to actually support.
But this narrative that the Bernie supporters are like toxic and shitty people.
And it was interesting to see that.
So Elizabeth Warren, everybody consolidates around Joe Biden, all the establishment people.
And then Elizabeth Warren, who's really just one more establishment person.
They say she didn't, on this view thing, she didn't get a fair shake from the media.
She was adored by the media.
She was their favorite candidate for a long period of time.
But anyway, Elizabeth Warren, she gets out and she's taking shots at Bernie Sanders.
And I'm telling you, my guess, and I said this last episode, I'll repeat it again.
It is possible that Bernie Sanders can buy her off, offer her a VP slot, offer her some high-level administration position and get her endorsement.
But I got to say, I am pretty sure that Elizabeth Warren is going to wait.
And then at the last minute, she's going to endorse Biden.
That's my fucking guess.
And I hope that fucking the whole progressive base out there sees her for the fucking fraud that she is.
Because as I said last episode, if she cared about her issues at all, if she was a genuine person who really cared about Medicare for all and abolishing student loan debt and raising the minimum wage and all these other issues, she would throw her full-hearted support behind Bernie Sanders right now.
Because he's the only one who believes in that shit, who's got a shot.
She should have gotten out before Super Tuesday and done that and maybe given him a chance.
But she won't.
Instead, she's dropping out and she says she's thinking over her options, not ready to endorse yet, but she'll end up, just like she did with Hillary Clinton, she'll end up endorsing Joe Biden.
And, you know, like the reasoning is like I said last episode is because she can't just come out and endorse Biden right now because that would lose her progressive credentials forever.
And then she doesn't serve a purpose to the establishment anymore if she can't pull in those progressives.
But she is that that's where I see it going.
I could be wrong, but that's where I see it going is her ultimately supporting Bernie Sanders.
And, you know, as more and more time goes on, you got to think that her value to Bernie Sanders goes down more and more because just about, you know, I mean, probably a lot of the hardcore progressive Elizabeth Warren supporters already jumped off and went to the Bernie train.
And probably before Super Tuesday, a decent chunk of them were like, well, he's the only one with a shot, so we're going to go with him.
And more of them now will jump off.
So after a while, what does the endorsement even really mean?
I don't know.
But this is the game that's being played.
This is what we're seeing now.
So to contrast between these guys, one of the things I said last podcast in my Super Tuesday coverage was that Donald Trump had a very, very good night.
I thought Super Tuesday was an excellent night for Donald Trump.
The worst thing that could have happened for Trump, as far as I am concerned, is if Bernie Sanders had run away with it on Super Tuesday.
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Bernie Sanders runs away with it.
He's got the Democratic nomination.
And now Donald Trump has to run against Bernie Sanders, who can own the outsider position that Donald Trump owned in 2016.
He can own the working class populism position that Donald Trump owned in 2016.
And that was a big deal for Donald Trump.
You know, you take those things away from him.
You put him in a much tougher situation.
You know, Donald Trump, I pointed this out months and months and months ago when Donald Trump first started his reelection campaign.
But Donald Trump, there is something really, there was a real weakness in Donald Trump's switch of his campaign slogan.
Remember, I said in his first campaign event, and this is just technically his first campaign event, he's been campaigning since he's been president.
But Donald Trump started, you know, with obviously make America great again, brilliant political slogan.
However you feel about it, it's brilliant.
It's five words, four words, and it conveys so much information.
Make America great again.
Four fucking words.
And in those four words, it tells you that we are a great country.
We've lost this greatness and we can return to this greatness in the future.
Like it's really an unbelievable.
I think Reagan said it first and then Trump just took it and ran with it.
But that's really everything you look for in a campaign slogan.
It's catchy, it's simple, it's short, and yet it conveys all of this information.
Like it's at all, it's make America great again, four words.
And in those four words, it lets you know that I love this country.
I love our founding and I love where we came from.
It's been ruined.
Like there's people to blame because we're not great like we used to be anymore.
And also there's a message of hope and optimism.
We're going there again.
We're going to make like that's just an excellent campaign strategy.
And at his first official campaign event, Donald Trump said, the new slogan is keep America great.
And I remember hearing that and going, man, there's a real weakness there.
That's not as strong of a slogan.
That's not as strong of a slogan for obvious reasons.
Because if you're saying keep America great, your pitch is everything's wonderful.
You love the way things are.
Let's keep it that way.
Well, what's the problem with that?
What if you don't love the way things are?
What if you're not happy?
What if Donald Trump won the I'm not happy vote in 2016?
His new slogan is like a middle finger to those people now.
It's like, no, we're keeping this greatness.
And if you're sitting there and you're like, well, things aren't great for me for whatever reason, that's a tough thing to sell.
Keep America great.
And then if Bernie Sanders is running against Keep America Great, I just think there's a real opening there for Bernie Sanders to go, yeah, things are great for the billionaires.
You know, things are great for people in the stock market.
Maybe not so much the last week, but things are great for people in the stock market over Trump's administration.
What about the people who aren't?
You know, what about people on fixed incomes?
What about people who lost their job?
And then he can kind of rally all that energy.
So I thought there was a real vulnerability to running against Bernie Sanders.
And I also think Bernie Sanders has this weird thing where he's very hard.
He's hard to shake.
He would have had a tougher time, I believe, against Bernie Sanders.
And I know everybody says they're like, well, wait till we, you know, Bernie Sanders, this is what a lot of Democrats, like, and I talked to a lot of them, like at, you know, on the cable news circuit and stuff like that.
But a lot of the establishment Democrats, they'll kind of be like, you know, there's all of this, what's the term I'm looking for?
There's all of this opposition, you know, research, opposition information on Bernie Sanders that's going to come out in the general, and this will just sink him.
This will just sink him.
He'll be destroyed.
And I just don't really buy that.
I don't buy it.
So you're telling me that all these Democrats are just hanging on to these grenades and they just let Bernie Sanders, like they wouldn't have used them before Super Tuesday.
No, before Super Tuesday, you saw all of the shit they had on Bernie Sanders.
And here's what it is.
Bernie Sanders praised Fidel Castro.
Bernie Sanders, you know, whatever.
He's fucking, his fans are dicks.
Bernie Sanders, whatever, wasn't great on, you know, he only got a D minus, not an F from the NRA.
Like all, that's it.
That you saw what they had.
Now, that might play better to a Republican, you know, to the general election, the general electorate, than just to the Democratic base.
Like the red baiting stuff might do better.
But I don't think there was like some, there's some secret stash of this shit.
Joe Biden, on the other hand, how can he attack Keep America Great again?
He can't.
He's running on the Obama legacy.
So if you're saying Keep America Great, his rejoinder to that is, but it's only great because of us.
So it doesn't matter that now the conversation is, is it better than it was in 2016 or 2020?
And that's a much different thing than Bernie Sanders being like, hey, this whole thing is working against you.
You know, Bernie Sanders has all the wrong prescriptions for this, but there is something more powerful about Bernie Sanders being like, this whole thing is working against you.
These fucking elite are screwing you over.
And in that sense, he's right.
They are.
He's just, you know, got all the wrong fucking solutions to the problem.
Anyway, big night for Donald Trump.
Joe Biden, who's an easier matchup, ends up taking the lead, now looks like he's going to be the nominee.
And he's doing it where it's still close enough that Bernie Sanders is going to continue to fight, kind of, for at least a few months.
Bernie Sanders, by the way, just to back up what I've been saying the last episode, Bernie Sanders said that if Joe Biden gets a plurality of the delegates, he'll support him.
So Bernie Sanders is not even looking to take this to a convention fight.
Bernie Sanders will bow out just like he did with Hillary Clinton and fucking endorse that person.
That's about how weak Bernie Sanders is.
Write another book, get another vacation house, sit on a lake.
Yeah, it's really just like, it's like, I want to lead a revolution against this corrupt establishment.
But, you know, I'll drop out and endorse the corrupt establishment.
No problem with that.
Such a fucking phony and just so weak.
Such a bitch.
Anyway, this is why Donald Trump's going to get re-elected.
Just contrast what the Democrats are doing to Donald Trump.
So here's Donald Trump who had a town hall event last night.
Let's listen to this clip.
Bernie Sanders.
That's my question.
I'll tell you, I was all set for Bernie because I thought it was going to happen.
You know, we get ready for things, right?
So mentally, I'm all set for Bernie.
Connected.
You're going to have to get past the vagina in the side of Trump's head.
I don't know what the hell happened there, but there were some real problems with Trump's head.
He didn't want to support a woman, so he figured he represented.
It was in honor of Elizabeth Warren.
Anyway, so he's here.
You know what?
Just bring it back to the beginning so we can get that first joke in.
So you want to face Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders?
That's my question.
I'll tell you, I was all set for Bernie because I thought it was going to happen.
You know, we get ready for things, right?
So mentally, I'm all set for Bernie.
Communists, I had everything down.
He's that camera.
I was all set.
And then we have this crazy thing that happened, right, on Tuesday, which he thought was Thursday.
But he also said 150 million people were killed with guns and he was running for the United States Senate.
Support me.
I'm running for the United States.
There's something going on there.
But I was all set.
I was all set.
And, you know, when I focus and we all focus, sometimes you do well and some people choke.
I watched Minnie Mike choke.
When Minnie Mike was hit by a very mean woman, he said, get me off this stage.
Just get me off.
And that wasn't a pretty sight to be.
But I was all set to take on Bernie.
I was ready.
And then all of a sudden I say, guess what?
I went to the first lady who people love.
I go into the first lady And I said, I said, he just won Texas.
He just won, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
And by the way, so close.
It was a whole different thing because of her.
So now I'm ready for Bernie.
And now all of a sudden I have a whole different, you know, it's a whole different deal.
Two very different people.
I think in a certain way, Bernie would be tougher because he's got a base.
It's a much smaller base than my base.
I think a lot of my people are here because, and I did nothing to do that.
But we have a lot of support in Pennsylvania.
And I think we have a lot of support everywhere.
Look at the rallies.
Look at the rallies.
But I was all set.
I was all set for Bernie.
I was ready to go.
And then I say, you know, I don't think I'm running against Bernie.
I think it's going to be very hard for him to come back.
Now, there's Donald Trump.
He's got a better man.
He's, well, you know, he's doing what he does.
He's doing something that is different from what every other politician I've ever seen do.
And that is that he's like, he's killing the way a stand-up comedian kills.
Not just killing the way like a politician who the crowd loves you kills, where they're like, and we're going to have universal health care.
Bah.
And the crowd, it's like he's killing like they don't know what he's going to say next.
They're laughing.
It's like a genuine laugh.
No matter how you feel about Trump, you fucking laugh at him.
He's just hilarious.
And then he's kind of ripping everyone apart.
He's going there to the places that everybody else is afraid to go.
Look, what he said about Biden, that was a little preview of the campaign.
And it was actually perfect the way he did it.
You know, he didn't come out too big.
He's not like nicknaming him senile Joe or something like that, but he just goes, I can't remember where he is.
Can't remember what day it is.
He goes, there's something there.
And it just like leaves it right there.
Sloppy Joe would be a good one.
Yeah, it's not bad.
I like Sleepy Joe, though.
There's something to me that's actually very effective.
Hits Mike Bloomberg, hits everybody, is hilarious the whole time, and just seems like this is going to be a real tough, a real tough race for Joe Biden to win.
That's at least what I'm seeing right now.
Say whatever you will about these national polls this far out.
They don't mean anything.
I just think that like I think Joe Biden is at best case scenario for Joe Biden is that he doesn't have major, major gaffes in between now and Election Day, assuming he gets the nomination.
And that seems unlikely.
And even in that situation, I just think Donald Trump's going to just handle this guy.
Just handle him.
That's how I'm feeling right now.
We'll see.
I could be wrong.
The other thing I did want to say before we bring this thing to a close is that I do, as I mentioned previously, I do think this was a good development for the Libertarian Party, which I'm a member of, which I'm a dues-paying member of.
I'm supporting Jacob Hornberger for president.
He's been doing really well.
I think he's going to get this nomination.
And I think that a Biden versus Trump presidency is a golden opportunity for the Libertarian Party to differentiate themselves, especially with Jacob Hornberger with a true principled, radical libertarian in there.
I think this is, it's, in many ways, you know, just like when Trump Hillary Clinton was a golden opportunity, I think Trump Biden presents a golden opportunity as well.
And assuming Jacob Hornberger does win this thing, which don't ease up.
If you guys are helping him, continue to help him, continue to make sure he crosses the finish line.
But instead of having Gary Johnson, we have Jacob Hornberger this time.
That's a big advantage in terms of like introducing more people to the ideas of libertarianism and free markets and how much the government is just ruining our society, our economy, our foreign policy, all of these things.
I think that's a really, it's a really big opportunity.
And I'm really pleased with the way the Hornburger campaign has been going so far.
But I did want to mention, because I got a lot of requests to talk about this.
So evidently, and I only know this because I follow the Mises Caucus Facebook page, or I'm a member of their Facebook group, that Nick Sarwak, the chairman of the Libertarian Party, who I debated at the Soho Forum and then also informally debated here on this show, has decided that he is not going to be seeking reelection.
And, you know, I just wanted to give quick thoughts on this.
So I am obviously, I'm pleased by that.
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I don't think he was good for the party.
Much more importantly, I don't think he was good for the movement of liberty.
And I'm glad that he's not going to be seeking re-election.
I just think that it's he was, he went out of his way for whatever reason to alienate and try to tarnish just some of the best people who spread the ideas of libertarianism.
And it never made sense unless you're conspiratorial about it.
But it just, it was awful.
I think that I played a role in this happening.
It's not that I did it, but I think that I played a role and not an insignificant role in his decision.
I know that he would be, you know, he was hounded relentlessly with memes and comments.
I mean, I literally saw everything I've seen him post since then.
There'd be some comment about, you know, voting for Hitler or voting for Cheney or, you know, just one of the many things that I got out of him that I got him on record saying that were indefensible.
And as I said at the time, that I, you know, like my, that was my goal.
That was my goal debating him.
It wasn't so much that I wanted to win the debate.
It wasn't even so much that I wanted to win, you know, whatever, the informal debate on the podcast or I wanted to come off a certain way.
I wanted to get him on record saying things that would make it next to impossible for him to, you know, be elected again as the chair.
And if I'm being completely honest with you guys, I feel not great about part of it.
Like I told you at the time, I was like, I was really angry.
I was really angry at Nick and I wanted to try to ruin this guy.
Like that was my goal.
I've never like felt that way about anyone else that I've been in a debate with.
I was debating Ben Burgess or the first time we had Nick Fuentes on the show, we kind of debated.
I was never like, oh, I'm trying to ruin this person.
That was never my goal.
It's just like, let's have a conversation about the issues.
And I always want to convince people watching who might be on the fence that they don't have as good answers as we do.
But with Nick, it was like somewhat personal.
And really what that was all about was him attacking people who I know and people who I love who are good people and from my perspective trying to ruin them.
And it was like, you're trying to ruin people that I know.
Like, that's, you know, I mean, to come out, you know, like right after Charlottesville and accuse the Mises Institute of being the preferred institution of Nazis and to, you know, insinuate that Tom Woods was sympathetic to Nazis and Jeff Dice and all these people.
Like, these aren't just, it's like on multiple levels.
Like, those guys are like heroes to me.
And they've changed my life.
And I've learned a ton from them.
But they're also friends of mine.
Like, I know these people.
I know Tom's daughters.
I know Tom very well.
He is an incredibly decent human being.
And you're going up, you're like trying to ruin somebody who I love.
And that's, you know, like, I took that very personally.
I'm very protective over my friends.
I've been this way since I was in the second grade.
And like, I'm ready to fight for my friends.
That's, that's just always been like an ethic that I have.
And Jeff, too.
I know Jeff's family.
I know his wife.
I know his kids.
Like, these are like good people.
You disagree with them on an issue or something.
Maybe they get something wrong, but they are genuinely good people.
And to not only like go after them, but to try to like tarnish their name, to like associate something evil with them.
It really fucking bugged me.
And that was, that was a big motivating part of this.
And I don't, you know, now that there's like more time removed and I think I made my point and I did it, you know, I almost feel like I just don't even want to be in that space.
Like I don't want to be trying to ruin somebody.
I know Nick's got a family too.
You know, like I have a family.
I just don't, I don't want to be trying to ruin anybody else.
And I don't, you know, so for people who are like kind of like spiking the football on this whole decision and like tweeting shitty things or saying shitty things to him, just if you care what I think at all, I'd say stop.
Like don't do that.
There's no need to.
The mission was accomplished.
This guy's not good for the Libertarian Party and he won't be seeking election again.
He asked, and I only know this because I'm in the Mises caucus Facebook group, but he posted on his Facebook page, like he asked if people think he should seek re-election.
Like he was thinking about it.
And the overwhelming amount of people were like, no, for various different reasons.
And then he decided not to.
And I'm just, look, I think the mission was accomplished.
It's good.
I think it's good that that guy is removed.
I don't care anymore.
I wouldn't know who Nick Sarwalk was if he wasn't the chairman of the Libertarian Party.
If not, it would have just been like some guy shitting on Tom Woods and Jeff Dice, which, you know, there's six or seven of those guys online and they shit on me too.
And no one cares.
No one cares.
It's just funny.
Like you fucking, you tweet a thing back, making fun of them sometimes.
They get ratioed.
It's like, whatever.
Who cares?
These guys, they're idiots making like retarded arguments.
They're not even, you can't even call them arguments.
They're just insulting people and lying.
And it's like, okay, fine.
Those people can exist.
But when it's the chairman, when you just have a position like that, it just, it warranted more of a response.
And anyway, you know, I just want to put the whole thing behind me.
I don't want to hold on to that like negative energy.
I wish Nick the best.
I fucking, I hope him and his family do well and he goes and has like a good career doing whatever else he wants to do.
I just don't want him to be hurting the movement, which I think he was.
I mean, I think there's no question about that.
There's no question that it hurts the movement to alienate, insult, and slander the people who spread the ideology the most effectively, the purest form of the ideology, or the philosophy, I should say.
Anyway, so that's that's that.
That was the little comment that I wanted to make.
But, you know, so congratulations to Nick on his terms as chair.
You know, he doesn't, he gets to go out not having lost, but having like decided to bow out himself.
That's cool.
I respect that.
You know, I apologize if I crossed the line and was shittier than I had to be.
But we had serious differences about something that's really, really important to me.
And I'm, you know, I'm just, I'm glad we got the result we wanted, but I just, I do feel a little bit like. dirty about the situation.
So please, if you give a shit about what I say, don't be shitty to him.
There's no need to.
It's over.
And with that.
Well, you can't just call it.
You got that.
No, no, no.
I was going to say with that.
Hell yeah.
Crazy bitch watch.
Hey, y'all crazy bitch watch.
Of course, bro.
You see it as a possibility.
If he wants to spend a billion bucks beating this guy, he could do it.
Absolutely.
Somebody tweeted recently that actually with the money he spent, he could have given every American a million dollars.
Got it.
Let's put it up on the screen.
When I read it tonight on social media, it kind of all became clear.
Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads.
U.S. population, $327 million.
Don't tell us if you're ahead of us on the math.
He could have given each American $1 million and have had lunch money left over.
It's an incredible way of putting it.
It's an incredible way of putting it.
It's true.
It's disturbing.
It does suggest what we're talking about here, which is there is too much money in politics.
And it makes it difficult because what we want in...
All right.
So let's start with where we agree.
That is an incredible way of putting it.
That is incredible as a not incredible way of putting it.
Now, look, I don't like just jumping on people who make a mistake with math.
You know, I'm not good at math.
I'm very bad at doing math on my toes.
The thing about this one is that you, many people had to see this.
Like, if you just know the behind the scenes of how like a cable news show works, for there to be a graphic that comes up and a topic that was planned on being discussed with one of the guests, I mean, minimum 10 people had to eyeball this thing.
And then Brian Williams and this MSNBC contributor there.
They minimum 10 people plus those two had to eyeball this thing.
And no one was able to raise their hand and go, so 500 million and there's 320 million Americans and you're saying that's a million a person?
Like that doesn't sound wrong to you.
Nobody just thinks that sounds a little bit off.
We need to bust out a calculator.
Maybe it's a, it's like, oh no, it's not a million dollars a person.
It's more like a dollar and change a person.
You know, still could have given everybody a dollar and change, but it's not going to change their lives the same way a million dollars would.
It's just amazing to watch it.
Now, when I first saw this clip, because it was trending on Twitter, when I first saw it, I really thought, and I had a whole different angle of how I was going to look at it, is that I thought they were making fun of somebody for getting the math wrong in a tweet.
Because, you know, the way they set it up, they're like, oh, and I saw this on Twitter earlier.
And they're like, for you guys doing the math, hang on for a second.
And I was like, oh, they're just making fun of someone for getting the math wrong.
But no, no, no, then they just fully endorsed it.
They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, nailed it.
A million dollars a person.
Okay.
So the obvious point is just that this is the corporate press that makes fun of how dumb Donald Trump supporters are.
So maybe if you've got all of the people that you had who must have had eyes on that and nobody calls that out, maybe you're not in a position to lecture anybody.
I think Brad, he might not have been lying about that helicopter thing.
He might have really thought he was in a helicopter.
If he really believes this, he might just be that stupid.
I've been wrong about this guy.
I mean, he really ron burgundy that situation.
They just got it in front of him.
Well, I will say this, okay, right?
There is a point.
I mean, not with their dumbass bullshit numbers, but there is a point to be made that Michael Bloomberg, whatever he spent a few hundred million dollars already on his campaign.
I mean, he, who did he give money to?
I mean, like television, you know, stations and a bunch of political consultants, I'm sure, made a ton of money off of that.
And there is something to be said for like, you could really do something with $300 million.
I mean, you could go to some like one of these really poor, fucked up areas in the country and really turn things around, you know?
So sure, there is an argument that you could have done a lot more with that money.
But I'm just saying that would be a more, I think, like somewhat appropriate way as a society to look at someone like that and go, you just wasted all this money on running ads for yourself.
Go like fucking help out some underprivileged kids or something like that.
However, there is a point there.
I watch the debates.
It's entertaining for me.
I've spent as much as 50 bucks on a UFC fight.
For me to contribute a buck to see that guy crumble when Elizabeth Warren asked him about the non-disclosure agreements.
That was money well spent.
I appreciate your contribution.
There you go.
A buck a person to have seen that debate with you.
Well, I'm not saying you should have given a buck a person, but he could have gone to like one real poor area and helped some people out.
He's given plenty other money.
All right, fine.
I would have thrown him like five bucks just to see that.
No, he's not giving money to charity.
He gives money to these like fucking bullshit Democrat charities that fucking put like, you know, like coal companies out of business or try to round up guns or some shit like that.
He's probably giving money to some real charity too.