Robbie Bernstein and James Smith critique Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy while analyzing a peaceful Virginia gun rights rally that defied media labels of neo-Nazism despite state emergency declarations. They condemn proposed red flag laws as unconstitutional tyranny, noting local sheriffs' refusal to enforce mandates in favor of the Constitution. The discussion extends to Democratic Party confusion over Iowa caucuses endorsements, skepticism regarding a Hillary Clinton documentary, and doubts about Senate impeachment hearings potentially harming Bernie Sanders, ultimately framing gun ownership as essential self-reliance against expanding federal power. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome to Part of the Problem00:01:33
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Martin Luther King Hypocrisy00:09:07
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So looking forward to all of that.
And happy Martin Luther King Day to everybody.
Just leaving a long pause in there for you to insert whatever you want to think.
You know, there is something about Martin Luther King that's, it's kind of interesting.
And I guess part of it is people get lionized when they die young.
You know what I mean?
Whereas like, you know, people who live longer have more time.
You judge them as an actual person, you know, and they fuck up more and things come out.
And Martin Luther King definitely gets some of that.
And he also, I think, in many ways plays into like he's almost like a godlike figure in modern America.
He represents so many things.
And in some ways, perfectly, like, especially for the left in America, he's the perfect, like, you know, religious figure.
And then, of course, it just goes to show you the state of America that the right also completely celebrates Martin Luther King.
And don't get me wrong, there are some, you know, there are some nice things about Martin Luther King.
There's some really nice things that he said.
And, you know, there's certainly he, you know, he led the civil rights movement.
I'm sure.
He had dreams, had lots of dreams.
Wet dreams, you know, sad dreams, violent dreams, and peaceful dreams.
And there's a lot that I certainly understand where some libertarians could look at Martin Luther King and see a lot of good things.
And I see all of those things too.
Like I, you know, number one, like, we're certainly all against, you know, state legislated Jim Crow laws.
Sure, it's, you know, and he led the civil rights movement.
And so, okay, there was a lot of good that came out of that.
And certainly there were a lot of things that he said in his speeches that were like wonderful, you know?
Judge, you know, individuals not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.
I think that's like a noble, you know, goal and how you should treat individuals.
And I, you know, completely agree with all of that stuff.
And there's, and, and he certainly gave like some really amazing, you know, public addresses.
And, you know, there's like lots of positive stuff there.
But it's just when you see the way he is turned into a modern day saint, which really, you know, like we're not a super religious culture.
We don't really believe in saints in that way.
That Martin Luther King is like a modern day saint in our secular, you know, liberal world order.
Ironically, who was a, not, you know, was a religious person himself.
But it's almost like he's got everything for the left.
Like economically, he was a socialist.
He represents the, right, he was black.
He was a POC.
He represents kind of like the struggle against racism, which the left needs to always be kind of evident.
He's shot by a white guy.
They like that.
Love that.
Love that.
Kind of anti-establishment.
All of those things mixed together.
It's just interesting that like, you know, none of the way people kind of get treated when they die, particularly when they die young.
You know, people get treated like in this whole, whole different way where you're almost not allowed to criticize them.
And there's just a lot.
I mean, Martin Luther King in his life was a highly, you know, polarizing figure.
It's not as if he was like embraced by everyone.
And there's just things about, like, look, just being a socialist.
And by the way, I should throw in there also that he was anti-war.
He was against the Vietnam War.
Gave an amazing speech against the Vietnam War.
And I certainly, you know, sympathize with those feelings.
I think he was right about that.
And look, if you were around during the Vietnam War and you were against it, you were probably on the right side of the most important issue.
So I'll give you credit for that.
But, you know, he was a socialist.
He was also a, you know, a preacher who cheated on his wife constantly.
A little bit of hypocrisy there.
A little bit of like, oh, you're kind of.
He was cleansing others.
He was using his priestly powers to help out more than just his wife.
Yeah, I don't know.
Look, I'm not going to like really harshly judge other people for how they act in their personal lives.
I mean, there's some allegations that he did some really creepy shit, but I don't exactly know how true any of that is.
Young girls.
And then there's even one allegation that like he was he was a witness to like a rape that he watched.
But I, again, I don't know if it's if it's true or not.
I think these are allegations that came out of FBI surveillance, which I'm always somewhat skeptical of.
But there is something, right?
Like I don't really judge degeneracy harshly.
People can be degenerates, you know?
I've known quite a few of them.
I've been one at different points in my life.
But there's something about being a preacher that goes around talking about Christianity and then is cheating on your wife with like 40 people.
It's like you're like a hypocrite.
Like you're fucking, you're presenting yourself as something that you're not.
And I don't know.
I just find it kind of scummy.
But happy Martin Luther King Day.
There's my piece.
I also find it there's something about Martin Luther King where to me, it's almost like, and of course you see this if you talk to any, you know, like modern, anyone on the modern left.
And this really, like, I know sometimes I say everyone on the left, and it's like I'm probably painting with too broad of a brush.
Like there are exceptions.
This, I don't think there's any exceptions to.
Everybody on the left does nothing but praise Martin Luther King.
And also everybody on the left.
And this goes all the way from like a moderate conservative Democrat to your like anarcho-socialist, you know, college professor or whatever, anarcho-communist or whatever you want to call it, you know?
Like all that entire, the entire left half of the country, every one of them, whether they're talking about people of color, white privilege, LBGT rights or whatever the other issue is, they always have to live forever in the struggle of the civil rights movement.
Like you can never move past, it's like the 1960s are America, even in 2020.
Like you, even in the year 2020, where you go, you know, I mean, like 1965 was, what is it?
Hold on.
Jesus Christ, I'm doing bad on math.
So that's 60 or 55 years ago.
So 55 years ago, you know, you had like the civil rights movement.
And then anybody who just wants to go like, you know, I mean, we don't really have a big problem with racism in the country today.
I mean, not to say that there's nobody who has harsh feelings about other people or has preferences of different groups, but there's no like real laws on the books that are like preventing people of color or something like that from getting anywhere.
Like that's, you're never allowed to have that opinion.
We always have to live in the moment of the civil rights and things like that.
And I don't know.
It's just Martin Luther King ends up making the perfect kind of figurehead for them.
Although, of course, what people on the right often like to do is to embrace Martin Luther King and then say, but see, you're violating his principles because you're not judging individuals by that.
You're judging them collectively like whites and blacks.
And that's not what Martin Luther King would want.
But that never seems to be very effective.
But anyway, happy Martin Luther King Day.
So, you know, what's interesting is on Martin Luther King Day, there have been in Virginia, there was this huge protest.
Virginia Protest Violence Speculation00:04:01
Did you see any of the footage?
Not a ton of footage, but I saw some of the pictures and the articles I was reading and a little bit when I YouTubed it, but it's one of those things.
I don't know.
They seem to bury these pictures.
Like the best pictures I was seeing was just random people's posts on Twitter.
Yeah.
Well, that's so much in the articles.
No, that's how I followed almost all of the stuff now, which again is another, just another fucking amazing thing about the current year in America is where you go to like, you know, you kind of like, as someone like, I check all these news sources every day or just about every day.
But then if you really want the actual info, you go to fucking social media and you get that.
Did I tell this on the show?
I think I did tell this on the show, but I don't know why.
It's not that important or relevant of a story, but it just stuck out to me.
I remember just one day, I think my wife had the baby, like in the other room.
And I was sitting on the couch watching the news and I'm on my phone at the same time.
And on my phone, I was on Twitter and it's just like trending.
Notre Dame is on fire.
And then there's pictures and videos and live feeds from people's phones.
You know, it's like fucking across the Atlantic Ocean and then some.
There's these people with just their phone there, like, you know, a la bec à la mara, la bibliothères, you know, and fucking, that's my best French.
Actually, showing like the tower burning and back to them.
And you're like, oh, wow, I'm watching it.
And then it was about five minutes before on the TV in front of me, they cut to this.
And there's just something, I don't know, there was something about that moment where I was like, oh, that's kind of like, that really shows you something, right?
Like just this dumb tweet app where half the stuff on Twitter is just some dumb, you know, it's like a picture of a cat and then someone making yeah, like some stupid fucking jokes and like this dumb thing.
And then there, you actually also can get fucking real world, really important information before the fucking old your father's news apparatus can get it to you.
And today with the rally, no, I saw that that's how I was taking a look at it was through all these people who were there who are filming it on their phone and posting the social media and then it gets retweeted by someone you follow or whatever.
And, you know, it's and I was watching it.
It was a big, a big crowd for sure.
Thousands of people.
I mean, I saw some pictures that looked like 10,000 people.
I don't know the exact numbers, but it was definitely multiple thousands of people who were protesting against these proposed gun control measures.
And it was so, I mean, I think it's over at this point.
It was completely peaceful.
There was no problems whatsoever, which were good, which was good.
I mean, there was a lot of speculating from the Democratic establishment in Virginia that there was going to be acts of violence.
And I don't just mean like, oh, people were saying some things like the governor, Northam, he declared a state of emergency over this.
And he was saying, you know, they had arrested alleged neo-Nazis, you know, people who were part of hate groups from the media reporting.
Doesn't that happen almost around every rally that they start going, oh my God, there's going to be acts of violence and this is every right-wing rally for sure.
It just, I don't know.
I feel like even when I went to rallies in high school, I think I went to one for the people in Sudan or something.
I feel like I went to Washington twice for some political, whatever it was.
I don't even remember.
And everyone's like, you can't go.
It's going to be dangerous.
They're expecting one of them was probably for Israel.
I think I went for one to Israel and one to end the genocide in Sudan or somewhere.
I don't really remember.
I hope that's over and our efforts were.
I can tell you really cared about both of us.
I did.
I was the one trying to, I went room to room.
I tried rallying people and this one rabbi debated me that I, that we shouldn't.
I was like, I was like, I don't know.
I keep coming to these classes and you're telling us all about the Holocaust and like how no one did anything and now these people are being killed.
Why don't we go do something?
You heard it here from Rob.
Oral Hygiene and Political Travel00:03:06
There you go.
The Holocaust, no one did anything.
That's what they're saying.
That's how he sums up the whole thing.
He said no one, they buried the story and no one cared that they were slaughtering Jews.
Yeah.
That's the way they taught it to us.
Well, might have been true at the time.
These days, that story is front and center.
But this rabbi gave me some real shit for it.
He almost convinced me that we shouldn't be helping.
It was weird.
What did he say?
I don't know.
He's like, so you think we gotta always do something?
I don't remember exactly.
He was a real smart guy.
And I was like, well, maybe.
I don't know.
That's pretty funny.
I wasn't expecting an argument.
Yeah, you're like, what?
Sudan?
What have the people in Sudan ever done for me?
Yeah, big Hasidic dude.
Oh, wow.
The Hasids.
Yeah, he didn't want to care for nobody.
They're a smelly bunch, those Hasids.
Some of them, not all of them.
You think all of them?
I like to paint with the women.
But the word fur in the summer.
What are you going to do?
You got to smell them in the winter.
You don't want to smell them in the summer.
It's brutal.
Sometimes you see those people in those outfits in the summer and you're like, you deserve to go to heaven.
Like, I really hope you guys are right because otherwise you just wore like fucking thick wool all August long.
It's like running three sheep on you, man.
Yeah.
Because they got the inner sheep layer with the religious garment, then a full shirt, and then the outer big coat.
Oh, just brutal.
You see the sweat beating up on their forehead, and you're like, bro, you know, there's another way that involves being cool, eating bacon.
Just check it out sometime.
I don't know.
Try it for a day.
See what you like.
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Marching with Pussy Hats00:15:39
There is, so, so, oh, like I was saying, so in the lead up to this over the last couple weeks, there were like, I think, six people arrested.
Um, and I always get, you know, who knows?
I, I, I don't know much about the details, but it's always like this weird thing where, and this is the problem, right, with all of the like, uh, everybody's a racist and everyone's a white nationalist and a neo-Nazi.
And it's just, it becomes so like we don't as a society, unfortunately, reserve that label for people who really deserve it.
And it's thrown out all the time that when the media starts going, oh, don't, we arrested, you know, three neo-Nazis or six neo-Nazis connected to a hate group, it's enough to make everybody go, okay, no problem.
I mean, those are just Nazis, so who the fuck cares what happens to them?
But it doesn't seem like everybody's going like, wait, on what evidence?
Like, what ground did you have?
How do I know these are actual neo-Nazis?
Because I've seen run-of-the-mill right-wingers painted as Nazis so many times at this point.
And then when they say hate group, you're like, wait, what exactly?
Like, what's your definition of hate group?
Now, I'm going to say maybe these people were guilty and deserve to be arrested.
I don't know.
But what does hate group even mean?
Questioning our intelligence communities?
You know, I think I might be.
This is dangerous.
People who reported on Russia collusion.
Yeah, exactly.
And boarded off threats.
But this is what's, you know, it's like you get so used to the government lying about all this stuff that it's like, I don't know.
I'm just, my starting point is I don't believe you and I want to see some evidence.
And I just, there's something about the term hate group that like couldn't, depending on the perspective you want to look at it from, is there any political, like politically charged group, a group with a political point of view that you couldn't consider a hate group?
Like that they don't hate something?
They called the insane clown posse a gang.
Right.
Remember they got them like the gang status so that it would be easier to arrest them or search cars or whatever the fuck they were trying to do?
Yeah, it's once you give a band with a bunch of weirdo followers with bad taste in music the classification of a gang.
Then what does this even mean anymore?
And that's, I just wonder, like, what does hate group mean?
So like, I don't know.
If you like, if you have a group of fucking left-wingers on a college campus somewhere, I mean, they certainly hate patriarchy and capitalism, and they seem to kind of hate straight white men, straight white cis men or whatever.
You know, like it's that, like, almost every group you could think of hates somebody.
You know, Donald Trump supporters hate Hillary Clinton supporters.
Hillary Clinton supporters really hate Donald Trump support.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
So it just becomes this weird label that you can selectively put on whoever you want to.
And it's just, I don't know.
Anyway, they said they had all these credible threats.
I mean, to the point that a state of emergency was declared and guns right around the state house or wherever they were protesting were banned.
They had to stay within their gated off area to open carry.
Your designated protest spot with armed guns.
Well, it just, right, exactly.
It's really, there's something about it that's just fucking like so creepy.
But especially the fact where they go, okay, so we're declaring the state of emergency because we have all these credible threats of violence.
And then there's no violence.
And you're like, do we like, what's the evidence here?
And again, it's not exactly the intelligence community, but what they say is like the law enforcement community has determined that there were credible threats against us.
And it's just, it's a weird thing where so, but how, like, how do we know you're not just saying that?
Or how do we know that these are actually credible threats?
All very strange.
Anyway, none of it came true.
So none of that came to fruition.
So there were no acts of violence.
It was just thousands of people open carrying.
It was an interesting group from the pictures that I saw.
Like there's fucking, you know, like just your kind of average looking Virginia Republicans.
Then there were like militias, like militias from out of state, like militiamen coming through.
There was Black Guns Matter people there.
Alex Jones was there.
It was like an interesting group, all with a ton of guns, all marching around.
Everybody was fairly peaceful.
And it's just an interesting moment to think about and to kind of watch the effect, like what the gun debate is really about.
How passionate people who are pro Second Amendment are about their gun rights.
And like, look, even just the fact that there is this issue, right?
That it seems to me like people on the left never, like, there's this disconnect between the people who actually see, you know, like, like the purpose of the Second Amendment being to preserve a free society, or at least to be something that helps to preserve a free society, being like one hedge against tyrannical government.
You know, one of hopefully many.
Like, hopefully there's other, you know, amendments in the Bill of Rights and there's, you know, like fucking checks on power and balances and all that shit and a culture.
But like this is one of them for sure, like an armed populace.
And then people on the left who see the Second Amendment as basically being like a mistake that was written into the Constitution, made sense in the day of like a gun, you know, like that, that couldn't do anything like the guns that we have today.
You know what I mean?
Like, but really is just stupid now and never should have been, you know, like included in the Constitution or something along those lines.
And I just, I, you know, this rally is almost just evidence that there at least is something to the claim that guns do something to change the relationship between the state and the citizens.
There's some, I mean, look, when you look at these pictures, when you see like, and again, I don't know exactly what the numbers were.
I think it must have been at minimum between 5,000 to 10,000 people.
Now, that's not the biggest. rally that we've had.
There were hundreds of thousands of people at the woman's march when they were marching around with fucking pink vaginas on their head.
But don't you get a little bit of a different feeling when you see an open carry march?
Now, by the way, there was no violence at this thing.
It's not that anyone did anything violent.
It's not that they didn't do anything.
I mean, there wasn't really violence at the woman's march either.
But I'm just saying, don't you have a little bit of a different feeling when people are marching around with guns?
There's just a little bit.
Now, I'm sure to people on the left, they go, yes, that feeling is fear.
Somebody could get hurt.
Somebody could get killed.
But look, just saying, empirically, nobody did.
Nobody was shut up or killed.
God, I hope while we're recording this, someone isn't shooting 20 people and this episode doesn't age well.
But don't think so.
I think it went off peacefully.
So you can be peacefully with these guns, but it certainly does have a different feel.
Like there is more of a message received than just a bunch of people walking around with fucking pussy hats.
You know what I mean?
It's like saying something to march around open carrying.
And you're not aggressing against anyone else.
You're not being violent toward anyone else, but you certainly are sending a message that I won't tolerate any violence toward me.
I'm still grabbing vaginas.
Yeah.
I mean, what are they going to do?
Yeah.
They don't have guns.
There's just more vaginas for me to grab.
Now you have two.
Yeah.
One down low, one on the head.
So it's, you know what I mean?
It's just, there's something about it that lets you know.
And I saw somebody posted like a picture.
And I was like, oh man, that really says it all.
But someone posted a picture of, do you remember at Occupy Wall Street?
There was that video that went viral.
It's like a famous image almost at this point of the cop who was just spraying chemicals into the fucking kids' faces.
So it was like a line of like teenagers sitting down linking arms and this cop, this fucking like, you know, right out of a fucking Gestapo just fucking walks by and just starts spraying.
It wasn't even a can.
It was like an industrial size.
It was like some chemical spray thing.
No, I think it was tear gas, but it was an industrial size.
Yeah, yeah.
And just starts spraying it into these fucking kids' faces.
And it's like so casually and so, and there is something, and look, I don't know, maybe they should have moved.
I don't know if they like where they were or whether that, but it's just like, Jesus Christ, just spraying this fucking chemical into these fucking teenagers' faces.
And, you know, anyway, a guy just tweeted a picture of that and he goes, won't be seeing this at today's rally.
And I was like, yeah, man, that, see, that right there is almost the perfect just explanation of what guns do.
You know, like, you remember even at the Bundy Ranch standoff when they would show kind of like the Bundy guys would be over there with their guns, the fucking, the, the federal cops would be over here with their guns.
And then like one of the cops would come up and talk to one of the Bundy Ranch guys and he'd be like, so we're going to ask you if you can like move back like a little bit.
If you would do that, we would appreciate it.
And you guys kind of like, okay, I have no problem.
I'll ask them to move back, but you guys got to agree to do this and that.
And they're like, okay, well, and that's like how the negotiating goes.
Whereas in Occupy, it's like, it's like over a bullhorn, like move back or you will be tear gassed.
Like, that's it.
There's no need to like fucking talk this out.
We're here with the fucking thugs and you guys are here with your long hair and fucking tie-dye hacky sacks.
Like move.
That's it.
But when there's guns involved, all of a sudden the government's got to be like, okay, so can we, let's have a conversation here.
Let's be reasonable.
And I, you know, I think there's something powerful about that.
And you would think, at least for people on the left today, who many of them kind of feel like there's been a fascistic takeover of the federal government and that, you know, Trump has these like, you know, fascist-like tendencies.
Maybe you'd go, oh, this is something that can kind of check government power.
All right.
I don't know.
Maybe that's not like.
Maybe there's something to that.
Now, I know it goes right to, you know, these like, well, the federal government has nukes.
Do you really think you're going to violently overthrow the federal government with your guns?
And of course, you know, I could go down, like we've discussed before.
It's like, look, like there is actually a lot of damage that, you know, it's actually really hard to fight off a group of well-armed people.
Now, yes, they could nuke you, but, you know, it's like, I don't think the American federal government is going to nuke America anytime soon.
But it does change the dynamic of cops just pushing people around and things like that.
It really just undeniably does.
And what's going on in Virginia is a real interesting situation.
I mean, we'll see how far they can actually push these people.
And, you know, the other thing is that it's like, it's all happening on Martin Luther King Day, which is just, you know, it's like I saw a lot of people, like the people on the left who are critical, it really seems like they can never get out of their like this very constrained paradigm where they're like, they're like, oh, well,
you know, of course, the first leftist talking point is like, oh, well, what would you, you know, what would happen if a bunch of black guys were armed like this?
Like, what would the police do then?
And like, okay, maybe there's something to that point, but couldn't you also just as easily be like, these are people, you know, like who are also, like, their concern is also the cops.
They're like, whoa, fucking, if they write this law, the cops are going to come fucking take my guns away.
Like, that's, you know, and maybe they don't make that connection enough.
Maybe both sides just need to realize, you know, you're not as far away as you think.
I heard all these people, you know, saying this was disrespectful to Martin Luther King because he stood for peace and guns are a sign of violence.
And you're like, yeah, but it wasn't violent.
Like what you're watching right now is peaceful civil disobedience.
I mean, okay, maybe not technically civil disobedience because the law hasn't even gone into effect yet or it hasn't been, it's passed, I think, the Virginia state senate, but like, but, you know, it's in the same spirit of that, right?
Like maybe it's, maybe you're not as far apart as you think.
And there's something here where you could join in common cause.
But it's interesting to see how far they're going to push this thing.
The other thing that I thought was of note is while these neo-Nazis, you know, or alleged neo-Nazis are being arrested and the state of emergency was declared, what was invoked, I mean, in like, I read like maybe four or five articles about this.
Every single one of them, what was invoked was Charlottesville.
And we don't want another deadly neo-Nazi rally like in Charlottesville.
And, you know, like I've said this about Charlottesville before, but it's really just, it's just firstly, just to go off what you're saying, to affiliate this with Charlottesville, Charlottesville was an event planned by the alt-right and Nazis.
And firstly, there weren't a lot of them going down there.
So to compare an event that isn't being planned for that specific purpose and go, hey, this is going to end up like that is insane.
Also, that was the police's fault.
The police created an environment by which the guy who was in his car was like being overrun by a mob.
And I'm not saying he had a right to run people over, but he was being piss was being thrown on him.
Like, I mean, it was just a matter of time.
It's just so unclear.
And I can't believe, I think that guy did get convicted of first-degree murder, but it's so insane that that thing is made out to just be a clear-cut case of cold-blooded murder.
It's like, dude, this was at best like, who the fuck knows?
Like, in the middle of a chaotic situation, who the fuck knows?
Was he angry trying to run people over?
Was he just trying to get the fuck out of there?
I mean, either way, it's tragic that that young woman died.
But.
Like, it seems like there really weren't like, you know, as Donald Trump would say, there were some bad people on both sides.
But the funny thing is that everyone jumped on the Donald Trump comment, which was completely taken out of context.
I mean, like, it's rare.
A lot of people say taken out of context when they actually aren't.
This was legitimately taken out of context when Donald Trump said there were good people on both sides.
I go back and watch the original tape.
They asked him a follow-up question and he immediately was like, he was like, so you're saying there are good people on the alt-right in Charlottesville?
And he's like, no, no, no.
I'm saying there are good people on both sides of the debate over whether we should tear down statues, which was actually, if you look at it from Donald Trump, a fairly charitable thing.
Like he's like, oh, there are people who want to tear down statues and for good reasons because they think this represents racism and slavery and all these things.
And then there are good people who don't want to tear down the statues because they're like, this represents our heritage.
And, you know, where, how far are we going to take this?
Are we going to tear down, you know, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington?
You know, and that's it.
But in all of this, the thing that fucking drives me crazy the most is even despite taking Trump out of context or what he said was so evil, what then gets taken is two sides.
There are two sides here.
These are the two groups here.
There's the alt-right and Antifa.
Those are the two groups.
Red Flag Laws Debate00:15:19
But the reality of the situation is there were three groups there.
There was the alt-right, Antifa, and the police.
Those were the three groups involved.
And it's like always like the fucking government ends up getting no attention.
And they're going to throw it out.
And this third group, the police, were charged with keeping order.
And they were the ones who literally created the entire situation.
Maybe not the entire situation, but they're the ones who let this thing get out of control.
They're as responsible for this woman dying as anybody else.
And also just all of the violence that was crazy there.
I mean, they certainly could have mitigated it in a much better way.
So anyway, that Charlottesville, of course, is invoked and all this stuff.
But I, you know, I'm somebody who believes in, you know, in gun rights in a nearly absolute manner.
I mean, I'm not somebody who doesn't want to see more gun control.
I want to see all previous gun regulations abolished.
But it's still just, it's crazy to me how people can't see the concern here.
And, you know, it's been put out there.
Like I've seen in a bunch of these kind of left-wing publications, someone posted in the inner circle a slate.com article, which of course this is what Slate's going to do, but where they said, you know, these radicals are protesting over moderate gun control proposals.
And you just wonder, it's like, so tell me, can you just tell me, it almost reminds me of the left when they're like, you know, the rich have to pay their fair share.
And it's like, can you just tell me what fair share is?
You just tell me.
Give me the percentage of what fair share is and then we can talk about it.
But this is very vague.
But when you say these moderate gun control proposals, what would be a not moderate gun control proposal?
Like in the slate.com world of things, what when would it not be moderate?
Now, there's a lot of, there were like, I think four bills or something.
There are a few bills that the governor was pushing that passed the state senate.
The magazine and like, you know, assault rifle ban did not get passed.
Right.
The ones that did get passed, which have gotten passed in a lot of states, are well, one, you're not allowed to buy a handgun.
You can only buy one hand.
Every 30 days.
Right.
Background checks.
Like they can take away guns from people if they have cause, if like someone gets deemed to be some sort of a threat ahead of time.
Well, that's the one I think that is this to me seems to be the one, the red flag laws.
This is the one that's gotten the most pushback.
And I just think the last one is if you're selling a gun to another, you have to report if you lose a gun within 24 hours.
And I think now if you're selling guns to another person, there has to be some sort of a criminal check.
Last one, they banned guns in some, I guess, large get-together, like public events.
Right.
Where in the past, I guess, guns could be there.
Okay.
I think that's the rundown.
Yeah, that seems consistent with what I've read about it.
Now, what happens a lot when the left pushes gun control is they do this technique where they'll throw out a bunch of stuff.
And some of them are just kind of ridiculous.
Some of them are things that no one even really cares about.
You know, like they'll be like, well, we have these 11 measures we can take.
And one of them is like a 30-day waiting period on silencers or something.
It's like no one, like no one really cares about this.
No one would really fight against this.
It also won't prevent any violence.
Like there's no question this is not an issue.
And then there'll be one that's like, wait, holy shit.
What the fuck was that one?
So in this example, it is the red flag laws.
And this is what people are really concerned about.
And I don't see, even if you're not a gun person, I think you should, that should give you pause.
Now, the red flag laws basically say that the government can preemptively take your guns away from you if you are deemed to be a threat to yourself or to others.
Now, this is the issue here is when, and I hear a lot of people say this, you know, in general, and it sounds kind of nice, right?
They're like, oh, we want to, you know, we don't want mentally ill people to have guns.
Like, a nice idea.
I guess in general, people don't want, you know, crazy people to have guns.
But then, you know, the obvious follow-up question is like, well, how do you determine somebody is crazy?
How is the government in charge of determining somebody's crazy?
And the truth is that this is true in almost every state of the Union.
It might be true in every state of the Union.
But you can be like institutionalized simply on a shrink say-so.
Like all a psychologist or a psychiatrist can just say you're a threat to yourself or others.
And you're just trying to tell them that the Terminator's coming, but they'll keep you in there.
Yeah.
And they're the only one that knows.
If you watch the movie to the end, they were right.
They were coming.
But doesn't it, like, how could anybody not go, wait, wait a minute, hold on.
So you're saying you can determine that somebody's a threat.
Just you determine.
Somebody says they're a threat and they have no due process, no way to defend themselves against this allegation.
No, you know, like there's nothing that they can go through.
And you can strip someone of their constitutionally protected right because you claim they're a threat.
Isn't that a dangerous precedent to set?
Like, what other constitutionally protected right are you okay handling that way?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, wouldn't you see that as just being like, well, no, we either need to like add an amendment to the Constitution to nullify the Second Amendment, or there needs to be something done.
You can't just say there is this constitutionally protected right that the government can then strip from you.
And this is what people are objecting to.
So, you know, like...
On that, a bunch of states, I believe, have already passed the red flag laws.
And I guess from what I've read, maybe it hasn't gone to like the highest Supreme Court because states have their own Supreme Courts.
I don't really know how that works, but thus far, it hasn't been struck and down.
So in your opinion, why is that that that hasn't kind of been nulled out as being non-you know, against the Constitution?
Well, I mean, in my, you know, in kind of the like broadest philosophical sense, I mean, like, this is the problem of when the government's in charge of checking the government.
But in a more just like the logistical sense of it, it's quite possible that there just hasn't been a suit that's been able to go all the way up the chain yet.
Let me just see right now.
What states have red flag laws?
I guess New York must, because they just had that incident with that soldier who live streamed.
Okay.
Considering, yeah, I can't say what flags.
Hold on, I'm trying to pull it up now.
Yep, New York has it.
Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, California.
Yeah.
So there's, yeah, there's a bunch of states that already have it.
And this is the thing where, you know, they can, without any, like, real hard evidence being presented, without any, ever having a day in court, without ever seeing a judge, you can have a fucking SWAT team storming your home to confiscate your legally purchased firearms.
Like, now you can say that that's just a moderate or reasonable gun control measure.
I would argue that that's not reasonable or moderate.
Is there anything in the Constitution that says that if you're temporarily crazy, your constitutional rights are suspended?
No.
No.
Not at all.
Nothing like that.
In fact, the Bill of Rights is very, you know, it's like plain English.
Like Congress shall write no law.
It's not like, there's never like a fucking, you know, oh, but, you know, in the case of somebody who's crazy.
And of course, the obvious danger in this, if like, again, it's like if you accept, even if you don't accept 100% of the belief or the argument that guns, that a huge part of the Second Amendment is that guns are there as a hedge against tyranny or that there's something, if you just accept 2% of it or 1% of it, like that there's something to that,
that there's some reason why an armed populace might make the government think twice about just pushing its people around and violating their rights, you know?
If you think there's something to the fact that every one of the worst genocidal, tyrannical dictators always confiscates the guns, you know, or that like, you know, like the like, even if you look at like all of the early gun control measures were always, you know, to confiscate black people's guns, like because there's like, oh, well, we want to push these people around and oppress them.
If you think there's anything to the idea that guns are there to hedge against state tyranny, then aren't you a little concerned about the fact that the state can just decide you're a threat and take your guns away?
What if they decide you're a threat to the state?
Know what if they decide what like that can so easily be like manipulated to they're a threat against the state's ability to, you know, violate people's rights, like it's.
It's just anyway.
I, I don't know, i'm i'm really curious to see how far Virginia will be able to uh push this, and it doesn't it.
It really doesn't uh help any that the governor who's pushing this was on record uh, for killing babies last year, and I don't say killing babies from the pro-life, you know, babies in the womb perspective.
I'm saying he was talking about a baby that's been born, that you know, a full-term baby.
What's the deal with this guy?
How do you win?
I don't know anything.
He won, he won.
I don't I don't know much either, but he won before that uh, all that stuff, what about wasn't he?
Also the guy turned out being in like a clan mask.
Uh, it's the same guy, right?
No oh, different.
He was either in a clan mask or in blackface.
Oh okay, so clan hood or blackface?
It was one of the two.
No, you're completely right.
Yes, same guy.
I think it was blackface.
Um, but anyway, it was just.
It was interesting to see this uh uh, this protest today, and we'll, we'll see what happens.
The other thing that I find interesting about it is that a lot of counties have already said um, we're not going to enforce this.
I saw a video today of a of a sheriff saying he was at the fucking um, at the uh the rally and he said like straight up, it's like I never am a like thank you for your service type guy or respect the state.
I wanted to fucking salute this guy but he said right into the fucking camera and he was like my oath is to the constitution and not to these politicians and I will not enforce this law.
Uh, if it's passed, which was great, but what?
What I really like to see about that is, uh, you start to see all government really can just be local and there is the possibility for people to live in communities where I get it, you're not comfortable with other people having guns.
You should be allowed to live in places where other people don't have guns and there's a wall around you and no one's allowed in with guns.
Because that's the way you like to live.
You should be allowed to have that.
And all these other people who feel more comfortable going to sleep at night knowing hey, i've got my gun if the government comes here, i'm going out with the fight, or if someone tries to, I get to have my gun and I get to put up a fight, and that's the way I like to live.
They should be allowed to do that too.
And it's interesting that when you start seeing that, like I guess people do tend to kind of congregate with people, they like that.
Clearly, the counties where everyone has the same sediment is like I don't know what the fuck the state government's doing, but that doesn't represent who's living here.
Yeah um, and then the other thing, I was just thinking about it.
This is interesting because they're going and they're taking something and it's something that people really care about.
I wish that there was as much passion for, like when a new tax got passed, or like when healthcare got passed and like you're not going to impose that shit here.
Yeah, I wish there was a way to like uh no I, I agree with you and it's to me it's kind of fascinating.
And as somebody who is, you know, pretty like anti left wing um, and you know a guy who's got I, I mean, I don't really consider myself a right winger, but i've got certain Certain views that are like sympathetic to the right wing.
Like, I'm definitely pro-gun rights and stuff like that.
But I'm a, you know, I am a New York Jew.
I don't really know.
Like, I would never claim to like really understand the culture in Virginia or understand the culture and some of these, you know, doing heroin, man.
Yeah.
I mean, like, I can try.
Guns.
And I'm willing to go live like that for a couple months and just see if I get into it.
But so I don't really understand exactly what it is that's going on.
I observe it just like any, like, I am a fucking coastal person as much as I hate the fucking coastal elite.
But it's interesting and fairly obvious to note that there is something special about gun rights.
Like, I completely agree with you.
I mean, these are people who, like, George W. Bush can tell them three lies and they'll enthusiastically let the government confiscate their son to go fucking die in the Middle East.
They'll let the government confiscate fucking a third of their paycheck every week and just go, well, you know, that's freedom isn't free or some bullshit like that.
But the gun thing, they're like, no, to them, that represents freedom.
Like, that is in their cultural DNA to be like, no, no, no.
You get your fucking dirty Jew hands off my gun.
I think also.
God bless them.
Partially, it must also just be the tangibility of the asset where it's like, I have this thing and now you're telling me you're going to take it.
Even that's different than like the paycheck where it's like in six months I'm going to have to pay this to you.
And it's already kind of indoctrinated that everyone's got to pay it.
You know, I don't know.
Yeah, no, no, I think you're probably right.
I think that probably plays a role in it.
And I'm sure there's lots of other factors to it.
But I also do think that there's something about like a gun that represents something to a lot of people in this country.
And it's amazing how, like, as you were just pointing out, where there, and there's no question to me in a free society, there would be some areas of people who wanted to live without guns and some who wanted to live with a ton of them because guns represent different things to different people.
Instinctual Call Cops Response00:02:01
Like to some people, it represents this threat.
And then to these other people, it really does represent freedom.
You know, like it represents this idea that like, oh, no, no, no, I'm in control of my own security.
Like somebody tries to come fuck with me.
I don't, I don't need to call another person, you know?
And of course, that is why, you know, I remember in Bowling for Columbine and Michael Moore, that fat communists movie, where there was this one.
And, you know, he's always, of course, like kind of interviewing these like NRA hicks to try to make them look bad.
And I was a, I think, I was still a liberal when I watched this movie.
But even then, I remember actually what this NRA woman said stuck out to me.
And it was just a simple thing.
But she goes, you know, someone's breaking into your home.
What do you do?
You call the cops, right?
Like, that's your instinct.
That's your instinctual answer.
Call the cops.
That's true to every like left-winger.
That's your instinctual answer.
Someone's breaking into my home.
What do I do?
I call the cops.
And it's like, why?
Because they've got guns.
That's the answer.
Like, that's the answer right there.
It's like, someone's coming in.
I need a guy with a gun.
It's like, cut out the middleman.
Cut out the middleman.
That's it.
That's it.
Now you're that guy.
You don't need to fucking have this fucking like childlike, you know, attitude of like, oh, daddy, come help me.
This is, it's like, no, I'm right here with my gun.
That's it.
Like, and, and there's something about that where I think once you have that, you're like, no, you're not going to, like, I, once you have that and you're in that mentality, it's easy to go, no, you're not going to make me dependent again on somebody else.
I'm, I'm the guy I call now.
I'm not going to call someone else.
And then there's the whole, you know, fucking government tyranny aspect.
It makes it particularly easy when there's a Democratic governor in blackface advocating murdering babies who's like, also, we want to take away your guns.
It makes it just a little bit easier to sell this government overreach narrative.
Militia Backup and Tax Code00:02:49
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Yeah.
Well, it's not the worst idea.
I hope there's some of them out there listening to the podcast.
Shit hits the fan.
I could use some militia backup.
There is.
Why don't we interview militias?
Get the official part of the problem militia.
Oh, I would love a part of the problem militia, but I do think we're getting dangerously close to being labeled a terrorist organization.
No, no, we're not going to have a militia, but someone out there will get our endorsement.
They'll be our militia of choice.
Now you're thinking like a Jew lawyer.
We have no affiliation with this militia.
Sure, they're called the part of the problem militia.
Absolutely.
Do we pay them?
Of course.
It's a donation.
Can we write that off?
Can you write off a donation to a militia?
I don't think so.
I got to get a 501c3.
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Okay, anyway, I'm very fascinated to see where the situation in Virginia goes.
And if these laws, if this puts enough pressure on them to not pass these laws, in many ways, it'll be a real victory for not just for, obviously, if the laws don't go through, it's a victory for gun rights, but it's really a victory to show kind of the power of what an armed, you know, like protest can do.
Judicial Activism Concerns00:04:24
There's something very backwards to me about the way this Supreme Court operates that I almost feel like when the government passes these laws, it's almost like at a company, you got to get approval.
Like if the Supreme Court exists and it's defined, then when you want to enact a new law that's restrictive of freedom, it shouldn't be like, hey, we're going to pass things and then people can challenge it.
And if they challenge it well enough, it goes all the way up there.
It should be like, you should go get approval from them.
You shouldn't be allowed to just kind of test the market and see if it's okay until someone figures out a way to sue you.
See what I'm saying?
It's like a very backwards approach.
Well, I also just think the, you know, the very nature of it.
And this literally, Murray Rothbard wrote this in Anatomy of the State, but it's almost like one of, I mean, there's several, but one of the fundamental flaws in our, you know, what was supposed to be a constitutional republic or whatever is the whole Supreme Court business.
It's like, so you're telling me there's this one.
So right away, okay, if you just start with, there is this one court that's going to have the final say.
This one group of people that will have the final say in whether a law is constitutional or not.
And they've got to be a completely independent court who's appointed by the president and confirmed by the Congress.
I mean, don't you just see the obvious flaw in that already?
That it's like, so you're the arbiter of whether the state has overstepped its bounds or not.
And yet the president has to appoint you and then the fucking Congress or the Senate has to confirm.
The people you're looking to keep happy are the Senate.
Right, of course.
So anybody who's like, well, I would never allow you guys to fucking consolidate your power will never be appointed or fucking confirmed by the Senate.
I mean, it's like, like if you had a company that was like, I don't know, whatever.
Like if me and you were having a dispute and then we went to like an arbitration or something like that.
And so we have a third party company that's arbitrating the process between us.
And we go, okay, this third party company has to be completely neutral, but I get to appoint the CEO every year.
I don't think you'd be happy having them do our arbitration.
You know what I mean?
Like you'd be like, well, no, because obviously they're not independent if you get to choose who's on the court.
And it's not a coincidence that from the fucking New Deal on, you just see all of these.
I mean, there are, you know, like, come on, man.
It's like one after another government programs that are clearly unconstitutional.
There's no authority in the Constitution.
The Constitution is really, like, it's not very vague.
In fact, it clearly states, and it states in the Constitution, then the 10th Amendment really drives it home, where the 10th Amendment says anything that's not mentioned here is not an authority of the federal government.
Like anything that's not expressly delegated to the federal government is for the states of the people to figure out.
The federal government can't do anything that isn't expressly delegated to it here.
And then we'll have all of these programs that aren't expressly delegated and the Supreme Court goes, well, our interpretation is that, yeah, it's like, come on, man.
I mean, the idea that they fucking, you know, like how many, we have a Department of Education.
You go find me where in the Supreme Court it says we have a Department of Education.
They, they determined that abortion was a constitutionally protected right.
Like, what?
Where?
Go read.
You really think in the fucking late 1700s, a bunch of people wrote it.
Like, this is just, it's obviously just like judicial activism.
And it almost always seems to go in one direction, with few exceptions, but it almost always goes.
It has a overwhelming tendency to go in the direction of increased state power.
So I don't know if there is any type of, like, this is the essence of why I'm an anarchist, because I gave up on believing that there's any type of system where a government, a limited government will keep itself limited.
You know, it's like fucking the idea of hoping for a corporation that won't try to increase profits.
I just don't really believe it's possible.
But if there was going to be a situation, this one is pretty flawed, the whole Supreme Court model.
The Constitution didn't talk about abortions because in colonial times, you got the wrong person pregnant.
You just called them a witch.
Corporate Press Bias00:15:18
Yeah.
You hung that whole lady.
You didn't even just worry about the baby.
You got rid of the whole thing.
If they had called it abortion, then I would understand the Supreme Court's decision and go, oh, abortion.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, we call it.
Yeah.
Hang the witch.
It's not a bad way to do it.
Anyway, it's shit's popping off.
Shit's popping off in Virginia.
Well, it's, you know, there's two, there's basically there's one of two outcomes that are going to come from this, right?
Like either these laws aren't going to pass and go through, in which case it's like a huge victory for gun rights, or they are going to pass and go through, in which case we see, you know, how far these people are willing to be pushed.
And it's, you know, it's maybe there will be some boogaloo.
I don't know.
I'm not somebody who roots for it.
I mean, you know, I'd like to see as peaceful a resolution to this whole current system as possible, but may not be how it plays out.
Yeah.
And I say that just in case there's feds listening.
Anyway, moving on to other topics.
So we are, as you know, Robbie the Fire Bernstein, we are getting close to the Iowa caucuses.
Nice.
They are coming up quite quickly.
And the New York Times endorsed a candidate.
Now, of course, the whole idea of a primary is that you're finding who your candidate is going to be.
There's a bunch of people who want to be the candidate, particularly in this Democratic field.
It was the largest field ever, but only one person can be the candidate.
And so we got to figure out who that one person is going to be.
And the New York Times, being the New York Times, understands this.
And so they went ahead and endorsed two people, which is what the kids on the street call retarded.
That's what the young folks are calling it this day.
When you endorse two people, the whole point of an endorsement is you have to pick somebody or don't endorse.
What are you doing?
I endorse them all.
I like Bernie, but I also like Trump.
If Hillary wants to get back in, that'd be cool too.
There must have been two that were uniquely qualified to the exclusion of the rest.
There must be some quality that they have that makes them qualified while no one else could possibly do it.
Dude, it's not even...
So they fucking, for those of you who don't know, the New York Times endorsed both Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar.
The most likable of the bunch.
The qualified, unlying, likable of the bunch.
They said, you are the two who clearly have proven yourselves above the pact.
It's so funny, man.
It's so like fucking lame and transparent.
And it's the only reason I bring it up on the show, because newspapers endorse people.
They're op-ed writers endorse people and whatever.
Who the fuck?
I really don't think anyone cares.
I mean, like, I'm sure there was a time when it meant something.
I do imagine that like our grandfathers would have been somewhat influenced by who their paper of choice endorsed.
You know, like I could see like our grandfathers in a political discussion with their friends and being like, I don't know, the Chicago Sun did endorse fucking Nixon, so maybe, you know, or like whatever.
But who the fuck cares today who a newspaper endorses?
I mean, like, I think Hillary Clinton got something like ridiculous.
She got like, I think like 75 to one of the, of the newspaper endorsements that Trump got.
It had absolutely no effect on the race.
If anything, it might have actually helped Donald Trump, you know, right, exactly.
Like the establishment is against me type thing.
But there was something about the New York Times endorsement that almost, it was a great microcosm of everything, of the state of the corporate press, you know, where there's just, they can't even, first off, they're just being exposed.
They're dumber than ever.
And they just can't even figure out how to fight against this tidal wave of just hatred of the media.
So they, I mean, to endorse Klobuchar and Warren, I mean, first of all, these aren't, they're just the two women in the race.
There's no, there's nobody out there who could see any other link between them.
They basically said it was such a confused piece where they're like, well, I mean, if you want to return to normalcy and moderation, then Klobuchar is the chick.
And if you want to swing big, and then Elizabeth Warren's the pick and all this like, and it doesn't even make, first of all, well, it's like, well, which one of those things do you want?
Which one are you endorsing?
You can't like, like, that'd be like if Hillary was running against Trump and you endorsed them both.
That doesn't make you qualified.
Well, evidently.
But if you endorse them both, you endorsed Hillary and Trump and you went, well, I mean, if you really want to shake up the system, I mean, Trump's your guy.
But if you just want someone with experience, Hillary's your person.
So, you know, we're endorsing both of them.
Wouldn't you be like, what was the point of running this?
Like, what, why are you even doing this?
And it's so funny, too, that the New York Times is so out of touch that they don't even themselves seem to have any confidence that they influence anybody.
Because if you did support progressive ideas, well, Elizabeth Warren's been fading and Bernie's been surging.
So he's the guy you would support.
But of course, he's, you know, not allowable.
He is not an option.
And if you did support a more moderate, I mean, Joe Biden or Pete Buttigieg are your picks because they're the only ones who have a fucking chance.
I'm sorry.
Amy Klobuchar does not have a fucking chance at winning this nomination.
Zero.
Plus, she looks like a dude.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're already going to endorse one of the women, at least go for one that looks like a woman.
Oh, Mayor Pete is 100% prettier than Amy Klobuchar.
Okay.
And someone's feminine.
He's got a smaller penis.
Yeah, so I'm accusing his hole.
Oh, Jesus.
This is why our YouTube channel isn't monetized.
It's moments like this.
But you know what I mean?
Like, it's just, it was so confused and backward.
And like, what exactly are we doing?
But there is something particularly about the, like, I don't understand how anyone could argue.
I don't.
And of course, the polls reflect this.
But why is...
And this is a dynamic that's always true in political presidential races.
Like, even, you know, you, I remember talking about this in the 2016 race of, but you had these candidates, like, I'm trying to even like remember all of them, but you had like Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Chris Christie, like two more, I guess, where you go, there is no difference.
I mean, no difference.
There is not one issue that you guys could find that you would even debate on.
Now, you all feel the exact same way about everything.
So why are you all here?
Like, what's the point?
Why are you here?
Like, if Jeb Bush was, you know, in the very beginning before Trump, he was polling like pretty well.
Why is Lindsey Graham here?
Like, what is the point?
What is the point of you being here?
Why wouldn't we just go with this guy who's you, but better?
Now, if you are going for Amy Klobuchar, why would you not go for Joe Biden?
The only thing left is woman.
Like, it's the only thing that you have that you want to endorse a woman.
There's nothing, she's, you know, it's like, oh, she's got the experience.
It's like, okay, he's got more.
Well, she's been in the Senate.
So is he.
Plus vice president.
So, what, like, what do you have?
He's just everything you are, and then more of that.
Like, it's so it's just this weird dynamic.
And, and I always think a big part of it, this is maybe the conspiracy part of my brain, but it's almost like they have to give you this illusion of choice.
Like, they can't just tell you we picked this guy to be the nominee this time.
They have to give you the illusion of, oh, you picked between all these guys who were the same, and this is the guy that, you know.
But regardless, it seems so strange to throw Klobuchar on that list.
But then, the other thing that's that's a little bit more interesting, and I really, this is the one that really kind of is the more important point is that it does demonstrate, you know, this is the New York Times.
There's still, there's still something about that name, you know?
They're like the newspaper, you know, it's the New York Times.
And they'll come out and endorse Elizabeth Warren, but would never endorse Bernie Sanders.
And you got to start to ask yourself, why is that?
You know, it's a really interesting in the same way that I went.
Do you remember I was talking about when I went to the when Richard Wolf debated Gene Epstein and I was doing stand up for the crowd and I, you know, and I talked to him and I talked to some people offstage too.
And I asked the Democratic socialists there or the communists or socialists, a whole bunch of them there.
I go, do you guys like Bernie?
And it gets a huge round of applause.
I go, do you guys like Elizabeth Warren?
And it's like, crickets.
They don't like Elizabeth Warren.
And you're, in some ways, to a free market type like me or you, you might go, well, why?
I mean, she's, she's right there with him.
I mean, on pretty much everything.
Like, I don't know what the only issue they could find to disagree with was whether or not he said something in a private conversation two years ago.
They, there's no issue that they could actually argue over because they all are saying they believe the same thing.
And I really think what it comes down to is that these Democratic socialists aren't buying it.
They're like, we don't buy it.
We don't trust her.
We trust Bernie actually believes in this shit.
We think she's full of shit.
And we just think she's like, like, we don't trust her to actually fight for what we want.
And we do trust Bernie.
And I really think that's what it comes down to at the end.
And then there's something interesting on the flip side of that that almost proves that they're right.
Where all of these establishment, you know, press outlets or politicians are fine with endorsing Warren, but would never in a million years endorse Bernie.
And you all, you know, it's almost like curious.
It's like, well, why?
I mean, if you're for, you know, socialized health care and free college and, you know, like whatever other plan, wealth taxes and, you know, income inequality, against income inequality, all these things.
Okay.
Well, why not the guy who's got a long track record of standing up for that stuff?
Why is he off limits?
But Elizabeth Warren is fine.
You know, I don't even know that I have an answer for this, but it is very clear that Elizabeth Warren is acceptable to the establishment and Bernie Sanders is not.
He is not acceptable.
You know, we, I talked about this a few episodes back, but at the time when I talked about it, the hot mic thing hadn't been released yet.
But you know what?
You heard that, I'm sure, right?
And, you know, there was something that was really interesting that happened after, so CNN did this like hit job on Bernie Sanders, right?
So in the debate, they go, they go, you know, did you ever say this to Elizabeth Warren that a woman couldn't be president?
He goes, absolutely not.
That never happened.
And then they go, Elizabeth Warren, when Bernie Sanders said a woman couldn't be president, how did you feel?
And the crowd laughed and Bernie Sanders laughed and Elizabeth Warren does her little thing.
And then she has her little, you know, obviously fucking planned confrontation with him.
It's like, oh no, she didn't want the audio to come out.
She just went up to him when they were both, you know, mic'd up on the debate stage.
Like, come on, this was ridiculous.
But there was enormous pushback on social media about this.
Like, everybody was just trashing CNN.
And then, what might be an even more interesting or more interesting phenomenon is that Bernie Sanders had his best fundraising day of the season.
Bernie Sanders got 100,000 people to donate to his campaign that day.
Shows how much people really don't like women.
I mean, when Bernie Sanders will finally stand up and say, hey, I want support, you said what we've been saying this whole time.
A woman can't be president.
Like, no, now keep going.
Vice president.
Do senator next.
You know, like, really?
Take it all the way back to the kitchen.
No, but it shows that people were like, they just see through the media's bullshit.
And they're like, no, this is, this is, this is a hit job.
Like, I'm sorry.
This is not an honest, like, like, you guys are in the tank for fucking, you know, spoiling Bernie Sanders.
And we, we're going to, you know, give him money.
And there's something interesting where you see that.
And I just wonder what must be going through these 100,000 people who donated to Bernie Sanders through their minds.
And then through the, you know, if 100,000 people donated, that represents a whole lot more people who are at least sympathetic, you know, who didn't donate.
But so you see CNN do this to your boy Bernie Sanders.
And then you sit back and you go, you know, everybody, like, you know, the evil Donald Trump has been calling them fake news for the last four years.
And is it possible that some of them would go like, oh, I kind of see why he's been attacking them for so long?
Because feel however you feel about Donald Trump, but when he attacks CNN, he's right.
Like, objectively, he's right.
I used to say this even when I was fucking employed by them.
He's right.
They are fake news.
They are the enemy of the people.
Donald Trump might be wrong about a lot of shit, but when he attacks CNN, he is absolutely right.
And I wonder if maybe some of the Bernie Sanders people are starting to see that now.
And it's one other example of the corporate press trying their same old bullshit.
It's like these same old tactics that worked for so long that just don't seem to be working anymore.
You know?
Anyway, we'll see.
We'll see.
You know, there's been more chatter about somebody else entering the race, even at this late date and time.
Hillary Clinton Rebranding00:08:30
And I got to say, and I, you know, I don't know.
It seems to me like it's really getting late for this to happen.
But did you see there's this Hillary Clinton?
Actually, could you even try to pull that up?
The Hillary Clinton Netflix preview.
If you look at that, there's like Hillary Clinton's got this new documentary about herself that's coming out.
And it's coming out like in the next week or two.
Just seems like very weird timing.
Did you find it?
Here.
Did you see this, Rob?
I did not.
So very weird timing.
Now, does it say when it's here, actually, just play the preview and check this out.
All right.
I just want you to have a good preview.
Go in with your honest thoughts about this.
But I saw this and I was like, oh, man.
There's something.
Because I had kind of given up on, like, well, obviously, I mean, probably, I always thought someone else was going to jump in this race, but at this point, probably not.
Play this part.
Someone with real experience who is a female.
I want to vote for a woman, just not that woman.
Her greatest strength is her greatest weakness.
She's unlikable because she's unlikable.
She's so smart, people always believe there is some deviousness.
I provoke strong opinions.
What you see is what you get.
I said, I really want to marry you, but you shouldn't marry me.
Chelsea put herself between us and held both our hands, trying to keep us together.
You know, you did me better than I do.
I want to push the envelope as far as we can push it.
If I said, back up, you creep, would I sound angry?
One of the most admired and one of the most vilified women in American history.
Somebody asked me what do you want on your gravestone.
I said, she's neither as good nor as bad as some people say about her.
All right.
Now, it seems to me that this is undeniably a campaign ad.
There was nobody out there who was saying, you know what, we really haven't heard enough about the life story of Hillary Clinton.
You know, nobody's really ever told her story before.
I mean, sure, she's written like all these books and there's been all these books written on her and there's been these movies made and all these stuff, but we really just want something.
And this is a clear puff piece showing her, you know, the human side of Hillary Clinton, which, by the way, props to the producer and director.
That's the best director.
If you got to show the human side of Hillary Clinton, it's not a lot to work with there.
But this is like very, very strange timing.
Like, why would it be that at the very beginning of the Democratic primary, the last Democratic nominee is all of a sudden doing this big fucking production?
They're putting out a documentary about her story and hers.
Like, you don't, I mean, this is just very strange to me.
Very strange.
You wouldn't see, like, at the beginning of the Republican primary in 2016, Mitt Romney's just dropping some documentary about himself.
Like, I don't know.
Seems very, very strange to me.
And the timing, you know, especially when it's Hillary Clinton, who obviously just really wants to be president more than anything else.
And she's got to be looking at this field and going, man, even after all of this time, there's still, it's still so wide open.
I got to say, I'm thinking there's an outside shot that Hillary tries to get in.
Now, if, let's say, let's say something happens like Iowa and New Hampshire are split.
Maybe Budig wins one and one goes to, you know, maybe one goes to Bernie Sanders or something like that.
I'm trying to think of something plausible.
Could Hillary then maybe enter into the race and go, look, you know, like this is too all over the place.
We don't have a nominee.
You know, I didn't want to do this, but I'm the one.
I beat him.
I won, you know, the last one.
I mean, look, Hillary Clinton does have a strong case from the Democratic voters' perspective.
Okay.
Now, a lot of that perspective is fucking delusional.
But from their perspective, she could say, I, you know, I won the popular vote by 3 million votes, even with Russia cheating for Donald Trump.
You know?
And so you know I can win this election.
Can any of these guys, do we know that?
It just seems to me like there might be something there to the idea of Hillary Clinton getting in.
Maybe I'm crazy, but when I saw that preview, I was like, holy shit, I think she might do this.
If nothing else, it'd be entertaining as shit.
Because I think she would get in and fail.
Like, I don't even think she'll get the nomination.
But even if she got the nomination, I think she'd just get trounced by Trump again.
But I guess there's a part of me that's rooting for it.
I don't know.
Seems strange to me that this documentary is coming out right now.
Any thoughts?
Did you fall in love with Hillary Clinton all over again?
You know, I was definitely giving her a lot more thoughts.
She looked pretty cute when she was younger.
Now I can see a little bit more of a beauty in her as an elder person.
She seems to be a little more retrospective.
She's willing to admit that she's not 100% great because up until now, it was just I'm 100% great, flawless.
Up until now, I thought she was 100% great.
She might just win me over.
I'm going to have to watch the documentary, though.
It'd be interesting if they're just throwing it out there to see if maybe it catches some momentum or worse than that, to throw it out there.
And then since they have all the media, the media starts going, people are watching this and they're changing their feelings.
And, you know, they give him like that push that they gave to who was the guy with the long arms talk like he was riding a horse?
Beto O'Rourke.
Yeah, Beto O'Rourke.
You know, they like they do what they did for Beto O'Rourke, but it's right at that lag.
She goes, all right, fuck it.
I'm in.
Well, I just, look, man, I mean, between her, she went on Stern last month and she's kind of doing, and it's like, what is this timing is just a little bit weird to be doing like a media tour.
Like, what is going on here?
It's also so weird for a politician to rebrand.
Like, there's other people who get to like, I used to be a rock and roll guy and now I'm a country musician.
And people go, oh, I found a new market.
Is it like Kid Rock found a new market as a country musician?
Or sometimes the kid actor, they change up their look and like now they got a second coming career.
She just ran four years ago as the uptight asshole.
And now it's like, it's not like she went out and she changed or apologized or said, hey, I did these things wrong.
It's funny.
I mean, Hillary Clinton has already rebranded herself so many times.
I mean, so many times.
Like she really was, she's been like a uber progressive, a centrist, a champion of the white working class, a champion of minority.
So when she ran against Obama, and people gave her a lot of shit for this because they were like, she's dog whistling.
But when she ran against Obama, she would say, like, I remember this one interview where she said that she was like, basically like, white people aren't going to vote for Obama.
What she said was, she goes, there's a lot of hardworking working class people, white working class people.
And she said the words white working class people who just aren't going to vote for Obama, who will enthusiastically vote for me.
And she was like, I can carry Michigan and Pennsylvania and all these states and Ohio and all this.
And I don't know that Obama can.
And this was her.
It's like, okay, he is this.
He's a little too far to the left.
I'm like the moderate one.
I represent the white working class.
And then in 2016, she was like, all her video was like, you know, the fucking people of color and all this.
Because now she realized with Obama out of the way, she could carry that vote.
She's like, look, I'm not going to carry the black vote against Obama.
So she was, she's so politically calculating.
Like, she'll go wherever she thinks she can.
Hunter Biden Impeachment Speculation00:12:27
But I don't know.
The funny thing about, you know, Donald Trump really, he doesn't just beat people.
He, he breaks people.
I've seen this in fighting before, where there are some fighters who don't just win a fight, but it's like that guy's never the same after he fights that guy.
Like he wrecks you and you were never the same.
Like, Junior Dos Santos was never the same after Kane Velasquez beat him up.
It's just never been the same guy.
It's just got beaten to a pulp, demoralized.
You know, it's like I've, and Donald Trump is like that.
It's partly the person, it's partly public perception, but like people will never think of Jeb Bush as the same guy.
People will never think of Hillary Clinton the same way after Donald Trump was through with them.
And that's, you know, that's just the reality of the situation.
Speaking of, in our final few minutes, the other thing that I did want to address is that tomorrow, it looks like, is the beginning of the Senate impeachment hearings.
And we're going to find out how I think Mitch McConnell, you know, we're going to find out how Mitch McConnell wants to play this whole thing.
And the question that people have been asking, which I really do find very intriguing, is whether or not witnesses are going to be called.
Now, if witnesses are going to be called, the Democrats will probably call some witnesses.
I mean, I think they want to call John Bolton and Mike Pompeo and some other people in.
But the Republicans want to call Hunter Biden to testify.
Now, I must say, I am rooting for that to happen.
I think this whole impeachment thing is kind of just a joke and definitely a waste of time.
But rather than them just dismiss the impeachment, I'd rather have a hearing where Hunter Biden has to come testify.
You had said this to me the other day before the show, and I was reading about today, but this is fun.
Not the thing about the Jews.
No, no, no.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I just want to make sure that was off air.
That was the militia talk.
Yeah, that's what I dog whistled earlier.
We're not going full transparency, Dave.
Okay, good, good, good.
Go ahead.
So what did I say?
That I initially thought that basically they were just going to fly right through this thing and just throw it out.
Essentially, hey, they were making television over there.
This is a political process.
They don't have the support because he didn't really do anything wrong.
Case closed.
We're moving on with our lives.
But now they can tie up a bunch of senators who are trying to campaign.
Yes, which is hilarious that the Democratic Party was trying to draw this thing out and they were trying to time it so that we kind of keep building this case against Trump and how bad he is and divisive.
But now a bunch of senators might get caught in this mess when they should be campaigning.
And just saying again, this is just speculating.
I don't fucking know exactly.
But again, it does seem very odd the timing.
And it's not just that they drew out the proceedings in the House.
It's that Nancy Pelosi then for no explained reason just held on to the articles of impeachment and didn't send them to the Senate for weeks to now send it over there a couple weeks before the Iowa caucuses.
Like, why?
Which would favor Biden because he's not a senator.
That's no question.
It would favor Biden and it would hurt Bernie Sanders.
And when you just see, like, look, man, I have no incentive to want to come to the defense of Bernie Sanders.
You know, I'm a free market guy.
He's a Democratic socialist, or so he says.
Whatever.
He's a big government guy for sure.
Like, I'm not trying to go to bat for him, but it's just undeniable when you watch all of this that the entire Democratic establishment and the entire corporate press is working against Bernie Sanders.
And I guess he won't even get good TV time because they made the laws against any, they're not televising the hearings, right?
Well, are they?
I don't know.
Maybe I'm totally.
I didn't hear that.
No, maybe you're right.
I don't know.
I don't know about that one.
But no, but you just, you see, and I'll tell you, the reason why maybe I am a little bit like sensitive to this is that, of course, as everybody knows, I was a huge Ron Paul guy.
And so I know what it's like when you see a presidential candidate who is just dismissed.
And it is determined at the beginning of the race before, way, way, way before one ballot is cast, way before they go, this guy is not an option.
You are not allowed to choose this guy.
And we will let you know that at every turn.
And that's the treatment Bernie Sanders is getting.
So when you see something like this, it's hard to not wonder: well, why would Nancy Pelosi want to wait right into the presidential primary season?
Why would she wait for this to overlap with the Iowa caucuses when of the top three people running for president are two senators?
It's Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders.
Now, like, why would she be doing something that is going to draw senators off of the campaign trail in Iowa and New Hampshire and lock them up in the Senate?
Just seems strange.
I'll just say that the timing.
And it leads one to speculate or wonder if maybe this is a move to help Joe Biden or maybe this is a move to hurt Bernie Sanders.
And with all the stuff being thrown at Bernie Sanders, it kind of leads me to think that maybe there's something to that.
Anyway, I am rooting for Hunter Biden to testify.
My prediction is that he probably won't.
I just don't think the Republicans are that standard.
I also got to guess that if Bolton were to testify live, which I don't think they're going to televise the hearings, but if he were, I would think for as much as he can show up and continue to paint this picture that Trump's unqualified, which, by the way, that's what they said at the beginning, and that's still what they're trying to say is that it's got nothing, they're not even going to go with the Russia collusion.
It's just here's backstage all the unqualified shit that I've seen.
Right.
I'm sorry, the Ukraine collusion.
But I would also think that if Bolton's really up there under like testimony, I wouldn't want to be questioned by Rand Paul or like some of these other guys about what the hell is going on and what you're, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I would think that that's not the great, greatest place to be.
No, I agree with you.
I'm sure those guys in many ways don't want to testify.
Although maybe Bolton has his own reasons why he wants to.
But I do think as far as Hunter Biden, look, if you're going to have witnesses testify, it obviously makes sense that Hunter Biden would testify.
I mean, this whole, the whole impeachment business, it's really all just so I only banged my brother's sister.
I mean, my brother's wife because he's had a bunch of weird things that go.
A bunch of weird things.
Drug problems, babies out of wedlock with other women who he denied, and then paternity tests showed he did.
All types of weird shit.
But look, this whole impeachment business relies on the fact that, well, look, like we've said before, and I've said this to Democratic strategists like over at Fox News who have even conceded this point.
But I said, if Joe Biden wasn't running for president, there'd be nothing impeachable here, correct?
Because then you couldn't argue that Donald Trump was trying to dig up dirt on a political opponent.
You could only say that he was trying to dig up dirt on the former vice president, which there's nothing impeachable about that, right?
Like if we're just talking about the former vice president, you'd go, oh, well, yeah, I guess Americans have a right to know if he was involved in some type of criminal corrupt activity.
But if you're running against him, you can say you're doing this for political reasons.
Now, I think that's a crazy standard, both legally and just reasonably.
I mean, by that standard, if you were like, if somebody committed some heinous crime and then announced they're running for president, Trump couldn't look into it because that, you know what I mean?
Like this is a crazy standard.
So if there was something really there with Hunter Biden that really was criminal, what Trump could argue is that, well, yeah, the guy's running against me, but I'm sorry.
It's still in the national interest in order to know because there is no problem with a quid pro quo.
The only problem, because that's just American foreign policy, but the problem is if it's for personal gain rather than for the benefit of the country.
So really, Hunter Biden gets right to the core of that, like what he was doing there.
And it would also just be very entertaining.
And I see that.
I think the issue comes up with this in the same way that you're never going to see Donald Trump impeached for starving children to death in Ukraine or for fighting wars or, you know, starting conducting an act of war against Iran without congressional authority.
You'll never see him impeached for those things because that shines a light on the whole system that these guys are trying to protect, the system that is what they are of and by.
So that's, you're not going to see that.
And in the same sense, I bet you it makes a lot of politicians very nervous to bring in Hunter Biden and start really exposing what is a giant racket that politicians, kids, and family members and friends get these cushy fucking gigs that they're nowhere near qualified to have.
But Joe Biden is not the only politician who's like, how many of those senators, how many of them have a kid who works for a fucking lobbyist or, you know, or a lobbying group or something like that, or works for some think tank or works for someone where they're collecting 500K a year when they were nowhere near qualified to do that.
The truth is, this is one of the many ways that influence is bought in our fucking political system.
And I don't think they want to expose this whole thing.
There's a good article about Chelsea Clinton making some like bucket lines.
Millions and millions of dollars.
They're serving out some boards, yeah.
Or it was one board.
I don't remember what company, but it was so transparent that that was a payout.
It's weird, especially now.
I mean, like, my, obviously, my, my daughter's, you know, a baby, but being a parent, I just get a little bit more like that.
Like, I don't know if you don't have kids, if you understand how much, like, your whole life is about your kids.
Now, maybe not so for these blood-soaked monsters in D.C., but you know, still, even for them, they probably prefer their own kids in some narcissistic way, like they carry on my legacy.
But so you could say it's like, like, I don't know what it's like to have an adult child, but if you could say, well, it would be illegal for someone to give me a bunch of money, but they could give my daughter a whole bunch of money.
I mean, that's basically the same thing, right?
Like, if someone were to just be like, oh, we're going to hire your daughter and give her a multi-million dollar salary, that would make me, you know, quite pleased.
That would be, you know, so it's just, it's so obvious.
This is just one of the many ways that influence is purchased.
And another reason why campaign finance is reform is just a fucking joke and, you know, completely pointless.
But I don't think the Senate's going to want to expose the whole game.
That would be my guess.
All right.
That's our show for today.
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No, excuse me.
February, yes, February 21st in Philadelphia.
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