Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein critique The Irishman and Milo Yiannopoulos before analyzing the 2020 primary, arguing Bernie Sanders lacks revolutionary courage despite potential Iowa and New Hampshire victories. They condemn the Federal Reserve's Ponzi-like economy, noting how committee manipulation shields figures like Ben Bernanke while rewarding Wall Street speculators through near-zero interest rates. Ultimately, the hosts conclude that regardless of the election outcome, government spending remains unsustainable unless the ruling class accepts that cutting expenditures is the only viable solution to prevent total collapse. [Automatically generated summary]
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Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
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Here's your host, James Smith.
What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am, of course, Dave Smith, the most consistent motherfucker you know.
And as always, I'm joined by the king of the cocks, the fire himself, Robbie Bernstein.
What's up, brother?
How are you, sir?
Back-to-back days, man.
Back-to-back days.
We're working stiffs over here.
We're going to fucking have to unionize.
Start really putting some pressure on Louis J. Gomez.
Louis J. Gomez spending all this time smacking nerds.
He's not fucking, he's not giving us our break.
Hoffa tells me I get a break every day.
Every other day.
Something.
Sorry.
Still thinking about that movie.
Did you see The Irishman?
Yeah.
It's good.
Mixed feelings.
Yeah, me too.
That's what I would say too.
Mixed feelings.
I couldn't watch the whole thing in one sitting.
It definitely picked up towards the end where, like, finally, there were some stakes and he decided to make it interesting.
I thought it picked up and then it dragged for the last like 25 minutes of the movie.
I thought the movie could have been shorter and should have been younger.
Yeah.
There's also just something to the sound of those actors' voices with Scorsese's just everything.
Like the music he puts behind them, the scenes he puts them in, where it's like, I don't know, it's like dude porn.
You're just like, fuck yeah, Scorsese movie.
But then obviously it turns slow and boring.
Yeah.
That's undeniable.
Well, I'd say I thought, by the way, we're weeks late on this conversation.
But I thought Pesci was phenomenal.
I just thought he was just, I mean, like, just an excellent performance.
I thought Pacino playing Hoffa was ridiculous.
It just made no sense.
Hoffa, that's not who Hoffa was.
Hoffa was like a Midwestern guy, and then Pacino's just like playing him.
And he's like, I'm getting mad.
And you're like, you're just being Pacino.
You're not even playing him.
Like, that was ridiculous to me.
And De Niro was just way too old.
The scene where he goes down to beat up his spoiler alert if anyone, but when he goes to beat up the dude who put his hands on his daughter, and he's throwing those kicks, and it's just these old man kicks.
Like you're supposed to be like, oh man, he's stomping him.
But you can literally hear him going, the kicks look so soft and old man.
Just that sad old man legs.
Yeah, it's just, it was, you know.
It was a good movie, though.
I enjoyed watching it.
Yeah.
Also, once it's on Netflix, it's free.
It's not like I had to go to a movie theater.
I didn't have to buy a ticket.
I got to watch it on my own schedule at my house.
I got a very low bar for NASA.
I do not understand their business model whatsoever.
I don't understand.
It's the Amazon growth thing.
Just spend as much money as possible, get the big names and be the iconic place and just keep getting new subscribers.
I think I have 9,000 people on my account alone.
I don't know how you're making money off this.
But I guess they're not making money, but they're spending a shit ton of money.
They're spending money left and right.
Anyway, I did.
Whatever.
I don't want to talk about it too long.
But the thing, I've had people tweeting me about Lewis having a confrontation with that guy who was egging people on to throw milkshakes at Legion of Skanks or whatever, which is like...
Anyway, if you guys don't know, there was some comedian, some like nobody comedian was like talking a lot of shit about Legion of Skanks back when we had Milo on at the creek.
And I guess Lewis, he crossed a line where Lewis was like, you know, if I see you, I'm going to say something.
And he saw him last night and said something.
And I guess Lewis called him out and was like, oh, you're talking a lot of shit.
You want to step outside and we can fucking settle this right now, you know, as Lewis handles things.
And the guy did not want to and then took to Twitter again afterwards.
And he said, Lewis put hands on me.
What he said, which I just, I don't know, man.
I don't understand men today.
I don't understand what man.
Like, if you back down from a confrontation, hey, it happens.
I guess we all take some losses.
But who goes on Twitter to let you know that they back down from a confrontation and then says, he put his hands on me?
What are you?
His wife?
Who talks like this?
It's a very weird mentality.
I don't understand.
I don't understand what's going on in America today.
I don't know what's going on with these left-wing offended men.
I don't understand them.
I don't.
I know I've said it before, but I understand.
I understand completely wanting to get into a fist fight.
I also understand not wanting to get into a fist fight.
I get both of those completely.
I don't understand talking a whole lot of shit to another man and then being shocked that a fist fight is a possibility.
It's just very strange to me.
Anyway, perhaps Lewis should have handled the situation in a better way.
But it's weird.
It's just a weird fucking thing.
You know what's funny is that all that, having Milo on Legion of Skanks generated so much anger.
And I felt almost a little bit responsible in a way because I'm like the only one on that show of the three of us.
I'm the only one who kind of pays attention to this shit and this world of political outrage and things like that.
And I just really thought like I didn't think having Milo on would be such a big deal.
I'm not saying we wouldn't have done it knowing that.
Still not going to affect our decision making.
But I just didn't even think people would care like on that level.
I just thought he'd be more into Luke.
Well, I think he was.
No, that's not his style.
Milo's bottom.
He likes big black dudes.
Luke is not his cup of dude.
I thought maybe Luke was handsome enough that he'd get attracted the other way around.
We flip him.
Well, you know, you flip him that way.
It's a little more flipping there straight.
Yeah, that's true.
Either one of those is a tall order.
It's not easy to flip a twink.
Everyone knows that.
My grandpappy taught me that.
So it was the one lesson he learned in the war.
No, but I was just kind of like, I don't know, like all the Milo heat was like 2016.
It's like 2019 now.
It was like he's kind of been, he's been kicked off every platform and, you know, all that shit.
So it's kind of like, okay, you guys got your little victory or whatever.
I didn't think it would be a big thing, but Matt, they were still so angry.
Something about that.
There's something about Milo that really, you know, because I had like Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell on the podcast, had Nick Fuentes on the podcast recently.
None of those guys, and they're way more hardcore than Milo is, particularly Cantwell and Spencer.
I mean, they're like openly white nationalists, you know, like preaching for an ethnostate.
I guess less of a threat so people don't kick and scream as much.
Yeah, I think maybe there's something, there's something about that, but it's just interesting that Milo generated so much more outrage.
I think there's also something about Milo that the fact that there's something about, you know, being this flamboyant gay dude that you're not, it's too much of like a paradigm breaker for him to be on the other side.
You know, it's like, so they, people just get so furious about him.
I mean, it's just so, it's hard to even make the argument anymore.
Like, you're like, do I really need to sit here and argue that Milo isn't a Nazi?
Like, so fucking stupid and ridiculous.
But, you know, what I was thinking about, because literally, I was just talking to Lewis on the phone about it today, and then I had heard, I had read, I guess, I don't know if you heard this.
It was like blown up on Twitter.
But so the CBC, I want to say it was whatever the Canada's like PBS, like Canada's public broadcasting company or public broadcast station.
They were playing Home Alone 2.
And they cut out the part where Donald Trump has a cameo.
I don't remember Trump's cameo.
So Trump has a cameo in the movie when he's at the Trump Hotel.
He's at the plaza.
Oh, he's at the plaza.
Yeah, that was Trump's hotel.
He owned it at PlayStation.
Trump used the plaza?
Or was it the plaza?
Yeah, it was one of those hotels.
I can't fucking remember.
But so at one point, he asks, he goes, excuse me, sir, where's the lobby?
And you look up and it's Donald Trump.
And he's just like, down there to the left.
And like he goes and Trump's.
He's got to remember like on the staircase.
And it's just such a little moment.
And then they like claimed that they did it for like time purposes or something like that.
But it's just, it's so obvious, you know?
But there's something about that that there's it's just like an interesting thing.
Like, number one, it's like, you know, this was intentionally cut out.
You know it was cut out.
And then if you accept that, which is just so obvious, you know, then you're like, well, why?
Why do you have to cut that out?
Kind of reminds me of the same thing of it being a paradigm breaker for Milo to like be who he is and be like, yeah, and I'm right wing, you know?
And it's like, they can't let you see that Donald Trump was that accepted.
Was that like, oh yeah, here's a family holiday movie.
And oh, isn't this neat?
A little cameo from Donald Trump, who's a nice guy in it, like helps out the kid.
It's like they can't let you see that.
We have to like scrub that from history, like pretend that didn't exist.
Isn't it funny, right?
For all this whole big show, man, it's all such a stupid big show.
But just like the little things like that, that Trump was friends with the Clintons, that the Clintons were like into going to Trump's parties and they went to his wedding and all this shit.
And then it's like...
It's the best place to fuck kids.
Other than Epstein, because sometimes Epstein was already at the island.
You can't get all the way out to the island for the weekend.
See if it's a Trump event.
If it's a big Trump party, you're like, Epstein's going to be there.
Epstein's going to be there.
Or someone will be there who knows where to get some kids.
I'm sure.
But it's like, that's, you know, the fact that all of this, it's like, if Donald Trump is literally Hitler or whatever, well, then you guys were all like boys with literally Hitler up until a minute ago.
And then that doesn't leave you with too many options, you know?
It's like either you're like, well, Trump wasn't literally Hitler then and he changed.
Like he drastically changed into literally Hitler, which then it's like, well, that doesn't seem right.
It doesn't doesn't smell right.
This guy was a great guy in 2011, but now all of a sudden he's terrible.
Like it seems weird.
Or you guys were all fine with being friends with this awful person.
And, you know, then it wasn't until he actually threatened your political interests or you thought he threatened your political interests that it was a big thing.
And it's just, you know, part of this, as we're rounding out the year, I think this is going to be our second to last podcast of 2019.
It's like, I don't know, just thinking about the whole circus, the whole show, the whole, like, and it's hard.
It's hard to break all this stuff down sometimes.
All of us are, it's very easy when you're living through this decaying culture, decaying government, decaying country, and all the craziness that comes along with it.
It's kind of hard sometimes, I think, to keep your eye on the prize and like really like stay focused because there's so many distractions.
And I think I'm as guilty as anyone else of falling, you know, for the distractions, focusing on the distractions at times.
But the real thing that's going on here, like the big story isn't the distractions.
The big story isn't the, you're, you're the crazy left winger or crazy right winger or any of that shit.
It's, you know, it's so easy to focus on all that shit.
It's so easy to focus on, you know, the guy who's like the trans activist with, you know, his him and his Twitter, you know, bio just making the most like fucking retarded argument you've ever heard in your life.
And if to just go like, look how fucking retarded this guy is.
And we're all guilty of, you know, pointing at that guy and saying it.
But for as obsessed as people get with like, you know, I don't know, whatever, the crazy social justice warrior for how, for how obsessed people get over like a Richard Spencer or Nick Fuentes or someone like that.
And the real story is that Hillary Clinton was unable to fucking win the presidency.
The real story is that Joe Biden is struggling to consolidate power in the Democratic primary right now.
That's the big story.
The big story is not that everybody's spinning out of control.
It's that the elite are having a tougher and tougher time ruling.
Kasich Stabilizing Power00:03:34
That's what's really going on.
And then everybody's spinning out in response to this because it's just like in the same sense, like in a different way, but the same dynamic where you kind of like, you know, you overthrow Saddam Hussein and all of a sudden Iraq is a fucking nightmare.
Well, I mean, it's the same country it was, you know, I mean, okay, minus the bombs and all that, but forget about that for a second.
All of these factions existed.
It's like Sunnis and Shiites and Kurds.
They were all there.
That's a lot scarier than the zoo, let me tell you.
It's like, but they were all there.
You know, it's like this fucking Sunni minority was, you know, holding down this Shiite majority.
All those dynamics were there.
It was just this one guy at the top had power and he was stabilizing to some degree the whole situation.
And you take that away and all of a sudden all the warring factions go fucking nuts.
And now, you know, a bunch of these Sunnis are like joining the like fucking al-Qaeda insurgency and like all this other shit.
And you're like, whoa, that guy was never doing that before.
You know, it's like, and it's almost like what's happening now in America is that the ruling class is losing their grip on power, and a lot of other people are just spinning out of control and going in these crazy directions.
And it's easy to point at all the people spinning out of control and be like, oh, this guy's crazy or that guy's crazy.
Look how ridiculous this argument is or that argument is.
But the real craziness is the power itself.
The real story is that these guys are losing power.
Now, it's not Saddam.
They haven't been toppled by a foreign government, but it does seem like, so what I was thinking about recently is I was thinking a lot about the fact that, you know, the Iowa primary is February 3rd.
It's almost January.
We're a month, less than a month and a week out from the first primary.
And then the New Hampshire primary, that's a week after that.
Like, this thing is going to get moving real soon.
And I kind of thought that by now the primary would have shaken out a little bit more, but it really hasn't.
It really hasn't.
I mean, you know.
Most of them will drop like after the third state.
Whoever didn't get one in all three was way beat.
Well, it depends on what your campaign is, which is always like.
How did Kasich hang around so long?
Well, Kasich.
Yeah, I mean, part of it's the ability to raise money.
I mean, I think, like, you know, I think that Kasich was, this is just my conspiracy speculation.
Yeah.
But I think that establishment forces were keeping Kasich in the race to deny Trump Ohio.
So he was there because that was his home state and that was the only state that he won.
But they wanted to keep him in in case Rubio could keep it close, at least deny Trump a big victory there.
But by the time it got there, it was all over.
But it's like, I'm surprised that Joe Biden didn't tank already.
Joe Biden proved to be more resilient than I thought he would be.
But I really don't think too much of that is actually the strength of Joe Biden.
It's just that nobody else was able to rise up as a legitimate alternative.
Nobody else could step in and say, okay, it doesn't have to be Joe Biden.
Sanders Could Win Nomination00:15:20
It could be me.
Like, I'll be the guy.
You know, the closest they got to it was Mayor Pete.
And it's just, you know, it's just a lot of problems with that guy.
It's a lot of problems.
It's just a short gay dude who's, you know, the mayor of the fourth biggest town in Indiana.
It's just, it's tough.
It's a tough sell.
He's also, you know, said some crazy shit.
I mean, they're fucking, he said at the last debate that everyone who was like, everyone who is separated from their family should get reparations.
He's talking about reparations for illegal aliens.
And you're just like, all right.
You want to run on that?
Go ahead.
Go run on that.
We'll see.
We'll see where the American people are.
You can say anybody's racist if they don't want to give reparations to illegal aliens, but I think you're going to find a lot of people in this country are going to be like, well, they weren't even supposed to be here in the first place.
Why do I need to give reparations to them?
Doesn't exactly seem right.
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So, here's the thing: here's how I see it, right?
Honestly, who I've been thinking about the most has been Bernie Sanders.
That's the guy I've really been thinking about a lot over the last couple days.
And part of it was there was this politico article.
Here was the title.
I had it pulled up on my phone.
But there was a politico argument and the title, a politico article.
And the title was Democratic Insiders, Bernie Sanders Could Win the Nomination.
And it was just funny.
It's like as we're closing out the, you know, or as we're starting the official, you know, caucus primary season, it's like I'm left with the same thought that I had when we first started.
And it's funny that they're just now coming around to realize this.
That it's like, oh, Bernie Sanders could win the nomination.
Yeah, Bernie Sanders could.
He could win the nomination.
The question that is like, why isn't he?
Like, why isn't he doing it?
Bernie Sanders, he basically survived the, he's survived the, you know, the media scrutiny, the kind of like, you know, how do you pay for this questions that he was going to get at every debate?
And, you know, listen, I'm not, I'm not defending Bernie Sanders.
He doesn't have an answer to how you're going to pay for this.
And Bernie Sanders is dangerous in a lot of ways.
I'm not really rooting for the guy, or I'm not rooting for the guy at all.
But he is in a lot of ways the most interesting person in politics.
Now, of course, when I say most interesting, obviously I think Tulsi Gabbard is more interesting.
I think Jacob Hornberg is way more interesting.
But I just mean in the sense that he is sitting right now in a position where he could do this.
He could do this.
Bernie Sanders is in a virtual tie.
He's within the statistical margin of error for being in first place in Iowa.
And he's in first place in New Hampshire.
He goes and wins those two.
I mean, that's it.
See, this is how things change real quick, right?
So Mayor Pete is basically tied for first place in Iowa and basically tied for first place.
It's basically tied between him and Bernie in Iowa and New Hampshire.
And then South Carolina, Joe Biden's out and first by a long shot.
Joe Biden is winning South Carolina.
There's almost no doubt about that.
Now, if Mayor Pete wins Iowa and wins New Hampshire, then he gets to sit there and he comes out and gets the news headlines.
Two first, the first caucus, the first primary.
He won both of them.
It is now him or Joe Biden for who controls that lane.
He's competing with Joe Biden.
He's almost got like a one-on-one with Joe Biden for who wins that lane.
And then it's a toss-up between Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders for who has the left progressive lane.
Okay.
If Mayor Pete loses both of those and doesn't even get a second place, like if he comes in third or something like that in those, I think he has to drop out of the race.
What are the numbers?
If I would think between Elizabeth and Bernie, one of them needs to drop early so that they can kind of consolidate the base between the two of them.
Well, here's the thing: Elizabeth Warren isn't interested in helping Bernie Sanders get her base.
I mean, don't forget Elizabeth Warren or somebody.
Elizabeth Warren isn't the real deal when it comes to that Democratic socialist stuff.
That's why, by the way, Bernie Sanders supporters are really hesitant to get on board with Elizabeth Warren.
I think, personally, my guess is that Elizabeth Warren supporters will flood to Bernie if Elizabeth Warren falls out.
So if he can knock her out, then he takes all of that.
And what's interesting about the race right now is that while Joe Biden does lead nationally, Bernie Sanders plus Elizabeth Warren, it goes Biden, Sanders, Warren.
But Warren and Biden, Bernie and Warren together are more than Joe Biden.
So if Bernie can knock Elizabeth Warren out of the race, I think he becomes the new frontrunner.
He's got a real issue with black support.
That's his biggest obstacle in the road right now.
But if Bernie Sanders, who's also tied for first, if Bernie Sanders comes out and wins Iowa and New Hampshire, I think that knocks Warren out of the race.
And then you could potentially see people really flooding to Bernie Sanders.
Because once she gets out of the way, he's the progressive guy in town.
And if Bernie Sanders can get a one-on-one with Joe Biden, that is just a really, really winnable race for Bernie Sanders.
He's got so much wind at his back at that point.
But there's a weird thing about Bernie Sanders, and this is what I started this campaign season talking about.
I'm not sure he's actually running for president.
I mean, he might be.
I'm not saying I'm sure he's not.
I'm just not sure he is.
It seems to me like it's got to be one of two things.
Either Bernie Sanders isn't really running for president, and he's not really that interested in winning the presidency, which I could sure as fuck understand.
Who the fuck wants to spend your last few years dealing with this bullshit?
I mean, half the shit Bernie Sanders wants to do, he's never going to be able to get through anyway, if he wins.
He's going to be, Bernie Sanders, I think, is outside an outsider enough that he's going to be, they're not going to be happy with him, you know?
I don't know.
Sounds more fun to just go write another book, make another five mil, go live in your nice two beautiful homes and fucking, you know, write rape fantasy stuff or whatever it is that Bernie Sanders does.
I don't know.
It's, it just seems like I remember thinking this with Rand Paul.
And by the way, it's funny because it reminds me so much of Ron Paul in 2012, which was the last time up until Jacob Hornberg got in.
And I'm kind of getting excited about his presidential campaign.
But Ron Paul was basically polling in, there were some polls where he was number one in Iowa and New Hampshire in 2012.
And then he was like, you know, second or place in some polls and stuff.
But he was right up there, like had a shot of winning both of them.
And he didn't.
And it was heartbreaking because I really thought, I was like, look, man, say whatever you will.
If Ron Paul wins the first two primaries, this is going to change everything.
It's immediately going to become a one-on-one with him and Mitt Romney.
And that's going to be fucking and then it's like then you know you clear all the fucking noise like just picture it this way, right?
It's one thing say Tulsi Gabbard when she's on stage with nine other people, but let's just say it was just Tulsi Gabbard and Hillary Clinton on stage.
Then basically it's a referendum on the war.
No matter what else you want to say, it's like, we're going to talk about this a lot.
There's no getting away from it.
There's no not debating this topic in depth.
Once it's a one-on-one, the dynamic changes completely.
And then you have a whole different shot, you know?
And I just thought it would have been the most incredible thing for the country if Ron Paul had been able to do it.
He didn't.
It was so close that he actually did win Iowa.
Like they just didn't, they figured out like a month and a half later that he actually got the most shady shit.
Well, yeah, there was a whole lot of shady shit that goes on, but you got to account for that.
This is what Trump figured out in the Republican primary.
Not that he figured out, but what he was able to do is that it's like, it doesn't matter how much shady shit there was.
There was a ton of shady shit.
They were flat out talking about changing the rules.
They were openly talking about changing the rules to deny the guy who was winning the fucking nomination.
The thing is just that Trump won by so much.
He won by so much.
You know, if Donald Trump was getting...
Don't leave it to the judges.
Well, yeah, exactly.
You have to, exactly.
You got to get a knockout.
If Donald Trump was, you know, at 21% and Jeb Bush was at 19%, you know, they'll find a way to get Jeb over the finish line.
But if Jeb Bush is at 1% and Donald Trump's at 30%, it's like, yeah, I guess Trump's the nominee because there's just no way you can't, you can't fool the people that badly.
Like people aren't going to live in a world where they're like, so Jeb Bush just drew 50 people to his event and Donald Trump just spoke in front of 20,000 people.
Pretty sure more people are into him.
Like, you know, there's people can see this.
But then when Rand Paul was running for president in 2016, it just, it felt the same way.
It felt like you don't, like you don't really want to win.
And that's what I feel with Bernie Sanders.
It just feels like he doesn't really want to win or he's just not built for this.
Maybe it's that he just doesn't have it in him.
He just doesn't have the fight.
Like he's, I was tweeting about this recently when he he was supporting Jank Uger from the Young Turks.
He endorsed him, who's running for some House of Representative seat.
And then the corporate press started attacking Jank Uger for some bullshit.
I mean, there's a million things to attack that guy for, but they were attacking him for like writing something misogynistic in the 90s.
It was like the most ridiculous attack.
And Bernie Sanders pulled his endorsement from him.
And I tweeted something out where I was like, you know, there's a real problem here that Bernie Sanders supporters have to deal with.
And that's, and I said, feel however you feel about his policies.
And of course, we could get into his policies and what I think are terrible, but forget that for just a second.
Feel however you feel about his policies.
There's a real problem here.
And that's that he's a pussy.
Like, he's a bitch.
Like, you don't have the balls to just be like, oh, this is nonsense.
This is something like he wrote something in the 90s that you don't like, which he apologized for already, by the way.
It's like, this is, this is insane.
Maybe it was later than the 90s.
It might have been like 2004 or something like that.
But it's like old stuff that he was like, oh, yeah, I shouldn't have.
I shouldn't have said that.
You know, like he was like, I think it was something about like dating advice or something like that.
And he was kind of being like a fucking dude.
You know, this was back at a time when you were allowed to be a dude.
It's not like current year where if you were to say anything at all, it's like, oh my God, rape culture, you know, it would be like, whatever.
I don't even remember what he said, but it was nothing that bad.
But the thing is that if you don't have the courage, right?
Let's say that like whoever it is, like, you know, CNN or the Washington Post or something like that is like, you know, this Jank Huger said problematic things 15, 20 years ago or something like that.
And you go, oh, okay, all right.
I pull back my endorsement.
If you don't have the courage to just be like, no, well, you know what?
Whatever the left-wing perspective on it is.
Well, you know what?
He's really great on income inequality and that matters a whole lot more than saying something.
So I'm supporting this guy because I think he's a principled guy.
If you don't have the courage to do that, how are you going to lead a revolution?
That's like, by the way, that's a big part of my fucking message to libertarians as well.
Like that's, that's in one reason for one part.
I mean, there's, there's lots of other reasons.
Part of it's just I like to tell the truth.
It's more fun.
But that's part of the reason why I'm always telling libertarians to grow a pair.
It's like, if you're fucking serious about this shit, if you're actually, if you're just jerking off, like you're just basically like, well, I want to be the, I want to be right on Twitter or I want to win a Facebook argument or something like that.
That's one thing.
But if you're actually like, okay, well, I want to see more liberty in people's lives.
Like I'm a libertarian.
I actually believe in liberty in real life.
If you actually want to make steps toward that, okay.
Well, you're going to have to take on the power of the state.
That's, that's like a real fight.
And if you can't say there's two genders, like if you don't have the balls to stand up to a social justice warrior, if you don't have the balls to call out fucking that bullshit, what chance do you have?
You know what I mean?
Like, you're actually trying to take on the CIA?
Okay.
Well, you know, here's a little, a little shadow boxing for you, a little bit of practice.
Here, have the balls to say this.
Race isn't made up.
You know, like, I don't know.
It's just these obvious truths.
If you can't say that, then what's the point?
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But this is the problem Bernie Sanders has.
This is the guy who's going to lead a revolution.
I mean, the guy, you know, he let those Black Lives Matter girls kick him off stage.
He let fucking Hillary Clinton cheat him out of the fucking nomination and then endorsed her and campaigned for her.
A woman who stood against everything he believes in, supposedly.
And that's the real problem.
But isn't it obvious?
You know, it's like sometimes like, you know, I know there are people, like when I was talking, when I was giving advice to Tulsi Gabbard, unsolicited, mind you, but, and, and I was getting a lot of people tweeting at me and they were like, Tulsi Gabbard, you need to listen to this episode, a part of the problem.
Like, you need to listen to what Dave says about this.
And it's just like, this thing is so obvious to me.
It's so obvious what Bernie Sanders should have been saying from day one and what he should go say right now if you really wanted to win this thing.
If you really wanted to win this thing, you wouldn't be going out there and saying, forget about the damn emails like you did last time.
He wouldn't be talking about how Joe Biden is his friend or something like that.
You wouldn't talk about any of this.
You would be here, like, it would just be like, if you were Bernie Sanders, all it would take to win this nomination is to just rise up and assume the sale a little bit.
Just be like, this is my party.
I was cheated out of this nomination last time.
We all know it.
I've never had a shot.
I was cheated out of this nomination.
And look what we got for it.
We got Donald J. Trump.
That's what you guys did who cheated me out of this nomination.
You made Donald Trump the president of the United States.
Well, you guys made Donald Trump the president.
I'm here to take the presidency away from him.
We're having a revolution in this country.
This is what people want.
You know what I mean?
It's like you have the fucking, whatever the latest number that Bernie Sanders can pull out of his asses.
You know, there's a $1.7 trillion of new wealth and it all went to three families and the blah, blah, blah, blah.
And, you know, whatever.
And just like, that's it.
Lay it down.
What do you want to go?
You want to go with Joe Biden?
Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton 2.0, as I call him?
Hillary Clinton in a jacket instead of pantsuits?
Okay.
Another guy.
Tell me something.
What's the difference between Joe Biden's voting record and Hillary Clinton's voting record?
Yeah, I don't know either.
Okay, you want to go lose to Donald Trump again?
Then that's who we put up.
Do you want to actually save this country?
I mean, it's like it's so obvious.
It's so easy.
We need to talk about the issues.
Well, yeah, that's it.
But instead, it's just like repeating the talking points and showing up and doing just enough to show up.
Why should the 10% put the 2% with the 9%?
The other thing is that Bernie Sanders have to make a real pitch to black voters because that's what's keeping Joe Biden in the race and what's keeping you down.
He's got so much more free stuff.
He's only going to give you some stuff.
So much stuff.
Oh, so much stuff.
Some stuff is immoral.
But I mean, I think it would be obvious what he would say there, too.
He would be like, you know, whatever.
He'd be like, you know, I was out there getting arrested in the civil rights movement.
I marched in the civil rights movement.
I've been committed to racial equality my whole life.
Joe Biden signed the crime bill or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like it fucking, it's just, it's right there.
The stuff writes itself.
But he doesn't have that in him.
Just like he never had it in him, just point blank.
He was on the debate stage.
Remember, I've talked about this a lot, but it really sums up Bernie Sanders to me.
So when he was on the debate stage, one-on-one with Hillary Clinton, it's just the two of them on stage.
And he would say over and over again, he kept saying this.
He'd go, I'm the only one on stage who's not taking money from billionaires.
You'd be like, what do you mean you're the only one on stage?
It's you and her.
Just say it about her.
You take money from billionaire.
Turn to Hillary Clinton and say you're taking money from billionaires.
But it was so easy for him at any point in that campaign to go, America, you have a choice right now.
What do you want?
Do you want the candidate of the big banks or do you want the candidate opposed to the big banks?
Do you want the candidate of war or the candidate opposed to war?
I mean, he just has to say this, you know?
But he doesn't seem to want to.
He doesn't seem to want to.
And that leaves us in an interesting place.
Because Mayor Pete trying to force this one-on-one with Joe Biden right now and then win that one-on-one seems highly, highly unlikely.
Highly unlikely.
Elizabeth Warren getting the nomination is starting to seem more and more unlikely.
And that leaves you with our boy, by default, Biden.
And don't get it twisted, Joe Biden will go lose to Donald Trump in hilariously spectacular form.
Hilariously spectacular.
It will just be amazing.
It will be an amazing run of the media pretending that Joe Biden has not lost his marbles when he obviously has.
Biden is an idiot, okay?
Yeah, it's just going to be months of this.
It's going to be glorious.
Biden also said, by the way, at the last PBS debate, this was a moment that was really like, whoa, this is going to come back to bite him if he is the nominee.
His kids are all dead.
That's how much of a loser he is, all right?
Even his own kids don't want to be around him.
When you're a winner, your kids stick around.
I don't have any dead kids, okay?
I like my kids to live.
What can I say?
Maybe that's just me.
You want the guy with four dead kids or the guy with 10 kids?
Each one more alive than the last.
But Joe Biden said in the PBS debate when they asked him at one point, this is the fucking weird position, man, that the Democrats have put themselves into.
But they asked him a question, which really was it.
This is as much of a paint you into a corner question, like a gotcha question as you could ask in a Democratic primary.
But they go, oh, you know, like global warming in order to deal with global warming.
I forget the exact question, but it was like, in order to deal with climate change, you know, we'd have to probably cut back on economic growth to some degree.
You know, like for a lot of coal workers and things like that, would you be willing to sacrifice economic growth in order to prevent the damage of climate change?
And he goes, yes, absolutely.
Absolutely, I would.
And, you know, and it got applause at a Democratic debate, but that's just a tough position to put someone in because if you don't say yes, you're basically the devil to them.
Oh my God, you'd let the planet die.
But if you say yes, now you got to turn around and look at the country and go, heard that?
Heard that, everybody?
That's his Hillary Clinton.
We're going to put a lot of coal workers out of business line right there.
How do you think that's going to play?
It's not going to play well.
You know, and that's the position he's in.
So Bernie Sanders, and the reason I think Bernie Sanders has the potential to be the most interesting guy is that whatever you think of Bernie Sanders, and I've got a million problems with him, but whatever you think of Bernie Sanders, he is the guy who's there who's not approved by the establishment.
Like he is the only guy who's competitive in this race.
Obviously, Tulsi's not approved by the establishment, but he's the only one, I mean, who gets the treatment, the good old Ron Paul treatment.
They're fine with Elizabeth Warren.
They're fine with Mayor Pete.
They're fine with Joe Biden.
I think they're nervous about him, but they're fine with him.
But Bernie Sanders is not okay according to the establishment.
They do not like this guy.
And I think part of it is that he's just, you know, Bernie Sanders is like a guy who has views that are embarrassing to have at his age.
This is why he's like an 80-year-old who's supported by 20-year-olds.
But I think he's a little bit, he's just not, I think he's not a killer.
Like he's not, he's just not necessarily okay with like starving children to death.
And if you're not okay with that, if you have some moral hang-ups about, you know, starving children, you might cause some problems if you're in there.
And they're like, yeah, we don't know about this guy.
The thing about Elizabeth Warren, which is interesting, you know, Elizabeth Warren, I found this interesting.
And I think I talked about this.
Maybe it was when I had Gene Epstein on the show.
I was talking about this, but I asked when, because there were a lot of socialists when Gene was debating Richard Wolf and I was doing comedy at the show.
And I asked the crowd, like, about Bernie Sanders.
I was like, who here likes Bernie Sanders, you know, to the socialists and a huge round of applause for him.
And then I said, who likes Elizabeth Warren?
And it was like, nothing.
Like, they just weren't supporting her.
And I've noticed this, you know, and it's borne out in the polls.
Like, Bernie Sanders supporters are not, they're not drifting over to Elizabeth Warren, at least not in any big way.
And I think to credit the Bernie Sanders supporters, I think that they realize that she's full of shit.
This is a problem that a lot of us have had on the liberty side of things is that it's not just about who says the right things.
A lot of this is about who you can trust, you know, because there are people who say they're going to end the wars or say they're going to balance the budget.
There's been a lot of people who said that.
Republicans have been saying that forever.
So balance budgets, eliminate departments, you know, there's, but Pretty much anybody who studies this shit at all knows it's like, oh, yeah, you just can't trust these guys.
They're not going to do it.
They'll talk about this shit all day long, but they're fucking not going to do it.
And I think that's what they smell on Elizabeth Warren, that she's full of shit.
This is part of what Mayor Pete called her out for, which was a good, which was a good moment.
I mean, he was fucking, you know, he was kind of full of shit too, because he is, you know, bought and paid for by billionaires.
But he called out Elizabeth Warren, who's like, you know, who's like, this is the problem.
You're crystal wine glasses with $900 bottles of wine.
And he was like, your net worth is 100 times what mine is.
And you're using money in your campaign right now that you got from those fucking billionaire, you know, donors.
Because basically, what Elizabeth Warren did was she was in her Senate campaign, and I believe at the beginning of her presidential campaign, she was doing the exact same thing.
She was taking money from billionaires, doing these closed-door, you know, donations.
You can even stockpile money from a campaign.
And then roll it over into a next campaign.
Yeah, it's very, it's, it's really, it's, you know, it's the swamp, baby.
But yeah, so she was doing that.
And then she funneled all that money into her presidential campaign.
And then when people started complaining about it, they were like, well, we won't do it anymore.
And then this bitch has the nerve to then go, can you believe other people are doing this?
It's like, you were just doing it.
You still, you're still spending the money from it.
I bet if you did a serious audit of senators like Elizabeth Warren and spending campaign financing outside of even running, it would be flagrant.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
That'd make an amazing audit.
Almost as good as auditing the Fed, but we can only hope.
Oh, man.
I remember those days when Ron Paul used to push auditing the Fed.
Let's just look at the books.
No big deal.
Dude, that was the best thing ever.
Did you ever, you ever watch any of those hearings?
So Ron Paul, Ron Paul, like, you know, basically the way it works in Congress is like getting to be the heads of committees is like what they let people do.
It's usually a seniority thing.
Well, okay, so it's supposed to go by seniority.
Or it's whipping people into its trades.
Like when they wanted to get Joe Lieberman back as a Democrat because he won as an independent, they had to put him in charge of every committee.
Right.
So all of a sudden, you're on top.
So sometimes it's a bargaining chip, and other times, more often than not, I always thought it was just kind of a seniority.
Well, what it's supposed to be is seniority, but then you have to also get like a certain amount of other congressmen to agree, even when you're the next one in line.
Right.
So Ron Paul, they would, they would even, they would keep him off like all these fucking committees, like all the time.
He'd want to be like on all these committees and they wouldn't let him on.
And then finally, in like his last two years in Congress, the guy had been a congressman.
He was like a fucking 15-term congressman or something like that.
And they were just like, dude, and now he's also crazy popular because of the presidential runs.
And so everyone's watching and everything.
And they were like, dude, we got to give this guy like something.
And so they gave him this sub, like, there was this committee that's not considered a big deal at all.
It was like a subcommittee of the banking committee on monetary policy.
And he was like, can I have that one?
And they were like, yeah, all right, whatever.
Give him this fucking idea.
He's just, they really had no idea.
So they go, all right, give him this fucking dumb.
He can be the head of this subcommittee on monetary policy, whatever.
And he was like, I'd like to say, he's going, I'd like to call Ben Bernacke to come in.
So there were these moments.
He would just get to grill Ben Bernackey over and over.
And it was just these amazing moments watching, you know, you'd almost start to feel bad for Bernacke at points because it's just like, dude, you are tangling with a monster.
Like, you have no idea.
And Bernanke also has to watch every word he says.
There's nothing like the fear of a Federal Reserve chairman being grilled because you're in a position, you know, the whole system is so fucked up and shouldn't exist.
But the truth is, you're in a position where literally markets will crash or soar based on your words.
Like if you say the wrong thing.
If the Fed chairman came out right now and said, you know, like I'm really concerned about the economy next year, the markets would take a dive.
As soon as that press conference was over, that's how much this whole thing is a house of cards.
It's like if you, it's like some fucking Tinkerbell Peter Pan shit.
Like if you stop believing, the whole thing fucking collapses.
You know what's wild about that is that even mainstream news, when they kind of talk about the economy, part of their analysis is, and the Fed just has to continue to sell everybody on the idea that it's going to be okay.
They're not saying it in these words, but almost what they're saying is, well, the Fed's doing a great job of bullshitting everybody.
So as long as they continue to get out there and bullshit everybody as good as they are, we'll be okay.
The Ponzi scheme will continue at least for now.
It's really just, it's incredible.
Because if you think about it like this, right?
Let's say I had just, you know, micro scale, like Desert Island economics or something, like just an example, like whatever.
Let's say there's a huge factory and it's producing so much, like state-of-the-art factory.
You can't believe how much, like, the machines, machinery is brand new and the workers are super efficient and it's just producing so much.
And you're like, holy shit, and I come give you a tour of the factory.
And you're like, oh my God, I've never seen a factory that was so productive.
You know, I wouldn't be like, all right, now, have I done, you know, this whole thing really relies on you believing that this is producing a lot.
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Like, you just really got to believe.
I got to keep selling you on the idea that you're like, well, no, I see.
I mean, I see the output.
It's right there.
You're producing.
Like, a sound economy, you wouldn't have to convince people that they have to believe in it.
But if it's all smoke and mirrors and trading worthless paper and then the Federal Reserve buying up that worthless paper to give the illusion that it's not worthless paper, then you really need to believe because if you start thinking like that, it's like it all fucking, it can all disappear.
It can all disappear tomorrow.
Nothing should tell you more.
Nothing should give you a better indication of how unsound our economy is than if the Federal Reserve chairman came out and said, I think this economy is really unsound, the market would tank.
That's it.
And nobody, no expert would deny that that's the case.
Everybody knows that, that if the Fed chairman came out and he goes, I think we're going to have a huge recession next year, the recession would start in the next quarter.
That doesn't sound, doesn't sound right.
Doesn't sound right to me.
We're reviewing interest rates for next year and we gone fucked up.
We are screwed.
Screwed.
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Yeah, anyway, it's um so where was I?
So with Ron Paul getting those subcommittee hearings.
Anyway, I've uh lost my train of thought.
But so back to the uh um the presidential race.
It does it seems to me like Bernie Sanders is at we're basically coming down the stretch of the last few weeks here.
And it's like it's just going to be interesting to be like, hey, do you actually want to go for this or not?
Oh, I was saying the thing with Elizabeth Warren that people can smell that she's full of shit.
So anyway, you know, Elizabeth Warren is that that moment with Mayor Pete, like, it crystallized it.
It's like, oh, yeah, you talk a good game, but you're not actually this person.
You're not.
By the way, I don't think Bernie Sanders is either, but he's got his street cred.
They believe him.
But with Elizabeth Warren, it's like, you know, the whole thing with Elizabeth Warren being a fake Indian.
It's not just that it's not just the silly little thing that we make fun of.
There's something there that really indicates something about your character.
I mean, if you could, you're a fucking fraud.
Like, you are a fucking phony person and you are living a lie and you're advancing in your career off bullshit.
She is writing, she wrote a recipe in a Native American cookbook.
She was listed as one of Harvard's, I think was Harvard's first female professor of color.
You know, it's like this is that you were living a lie and profiting off of it.
And the thing about someone who does that is that somebody who does that, it's not an isolated incident.
It's not like there's no other bullshit.
And then there were like other things that came out.
Like she made up this story about being fired because she was pregnant and that turned out to be bullshit.
And they found older interviews of her talking about being fired and it had nothing to do with her being a family.
I read this week.
It was just a headline, so I didn't get all the details on it, but her brother's very upset at her for claiming that her dad was a janitor.
Yeah.
Her brother's pissed off at her because he's like, he's like, you're like downplaying what her father was.
She's making up this whole thing about how she came from like this humble, like working class family that never had much.
And it's bullshit.
They're like all a bunch of millionaires.
It's all her whole thing is bullshit.
And in some ways, that, you know, that's a reason for her to be disqualified.
And in some ways, you're like, oh my God.
So I guess maybe she's not serious about passing this $52 trillion health care plan.
All right.
I guess maybe that's good.
And maybe the problem with Bernie Sanders is he really believes in a lot of this shit.
And then, of course, the problem with, you know, obvious, I mean, obviously, you know, I don't know how much time we have, but the problem with Bernie Sanders' actual policies, right, is that it's just, you know, it's all a fantasy.
You know, the idea that billionaires can pay for all this shit is just, it's a fantasy.
The numbers aren't there.
They don't add up.
And you actually have to start getting into like really heavily taxing middle-class working class people in order to get a fraction of the stuff that he wants.
That's just the reality of the situation.
And the fucking, you know, and I like don't think that the American working class can fucking handle that right now.
But, you know, you wonder, like, to me, it kind of seems like there used to be, this is almost like what's not as scary about the fucking socialists who are running for president is that, you know, there are these people who have these big, these big plans and what they run on, but you got to almost separate the noise from the reality a little bit.
And it's like, look, I don't know.
Is it really the case that if Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren were to win, there'll be these huge spending programs.
But if Trump wins, the spending won't be as high as it will under those guys.
Is it really the case that did it make any difference whether it was George W. Bush or Barack Obama or if it is Bernie Sanders?
Did it make any difference if it was Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump?
Or is it just the case that they're going to spend the absolute most that they can?
You know what I mean?
They're going to spend the most that they can thinking that they won't destroy the system tomorrow.
I mean, you look at this $1.5 trillion spending bill, $1.4 trillion spending bill that Trump just fucking just signed, which is, you know, the exact type of thing you would think Trump was elected to veto, but he just signed.
It's like, I don't know.
You know, there used to be this kind of like the Reagan, the Reagan era Republicans versus the like, like whatever, who's it, Mondale or whoever the fucking Democratic, you know, guys at the time were Teddy Kennedy Democrats.
They would kind of have this argument where the Reaganites would say, well, you need to starve the beast.
So you want to cut taxes, you know, so the government doesn't get as much revenue.
And then the Democrats would be like, well, no, you want to raise revenue so the deficits aren't as high, you know?
And the whole, you know, starving the beast never seemed to really work out in any way because, you know, we've lived through eras where they cut taxes.
And in almost every case, revenue goes up, you know?
So it's like you don't really starve the beast.
What ends up happening is you cut taxes.
It creates more economic growth.
There's more taxpayers, you know?
So you fucking cut taxes.
Revenue went up after Trump's tax cuts.
So, you know, you cut corporate taxes a whole bunch.
Corporations can hire a lot more people.
Well, guess what?
Now there's a lot more individual taxpayers.
Okay.
It's not really starving the beast.
And then the Democrats and Republicans alike have had instances where they raise taxes and certainly where they raise revenue.
Revenue goes up and up and up.
You know, if revenue going up was going to pay off the deficit, shouldn't we have surpluses at this point?
How far does revenue need to go up before you finally have enough revenue?
The problem is that if revenue goes up, that's just that much more they can leverage to borrow in the future, right?
So spending is almost always at the maximum level.
I mean, we spend more than any government in human history.
It's hard for me to imagine like the spending, it almost seems to not matter who's there.
And so none of these things work.
The only thing that's left, the only thing that's reasonable is that we have to cut spending.
It's the only answer.
The problem is government spending.
And, you know, so much of the problem, right, like I said at the beginning, that the real story of the moment is that the power fall are losing their grip on power.
The real problem that we have right now, at least as I see it, is that the establishment, the fucking, the, the ruling elite, as they're losing their power, and they're losing power because the people are furious at them.
That's what's going on.
I mean, on both the left and the right.
Like, if you listen to a fucking whatever, if you listen to like Donald Trump when he was running for president, or even just people like on that side, like if you, if you listen to Nick Fuentes or, you know, I don't know, fucking anybody who's like on the dissident right, someone like that.
Or if you listen to the dissident left, if you listen to Alexandria Ocasio or Cortez, or even like the real fucking stupid ones, like the fucking, you know, you just listen to some trans activist or, you know, whatever, Black Lives Matter activist or someone like that.
They're all furious at the center for different reasons, you know, but they're all like the center's fucking sold us out.
Those people on the left wing would basically be like, oh, this is the evil capitalist system.
It's all run by fucking billionaires.
The whole thing's bought and paid for.
It's all bullshit.
It's racist.
It's white supremacists.
It's whatever.
That's the establishment.
And the people on the right are like, you know, they've sold you out.
It's the swamp.
It's this whole fucking terrible thing.
But so you've got this anger against an establishment that is evil.
So that's kind of good in a way.
Just like if you didn't know the details of it, you'd just be like, well, people are angry at the establishment that's really sold them out.
So that there's something there that you'd want to work with.
So I guess the like liberty-minded people, your goal is to channel as much of that energy toward hating them for the right reasons and channel it toward the correct solutions, you know?
The problem is that in the course of fucking everything up, the establishment has tarnished the name of a lot of good shit.
So in other words, like it's seen as capitalism, you know, like every, and, and everything from like, you know, whatever, like all the stuff we were just talking about about the economy being all smoke and mirrors.
Like if you listen to any fucking anti-capitalist, whether it's like socialists or fascists or anything in that, like this is what they'll rail about against capitalism.
Oh, this is capitalism.
This fucking Wall Street fucking casino.
This fucking, you know, like people getting rich, people getting filthy rich off derivatives while they fucking destroy the economy.
Venture capitalist firms fucking, you know, like doing all these crazy deals where they buy up companies, drive up the stock price, then they lay off all middle management and sell the fucking company and all this shit.
That's capitalism.
Like that's what they think of capitalism.
But if you actually examine it, it's like this is fiat currency.
This is a Federal Reserve, like fucking cartel system.
That's what it is.
It's not like libertarian free markets, but that shit all gets fucking like killed with it.
I was listening to Nick Fuentes gave a speech on fucking, it was like he had like an America First event and he gave a speech.
I listened to it and he's an interesting guy and he's a very smart kid and he, you know, he gave a speech at this event they have and he's been going hard.
It's been fun to watch, but he's been going hard at like Turning Point USA and those guys.
But he was basically saying that the big difference between the America First, like nationalist conservative movements, he was saying the difference is that they're nationalists and Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk are libertarians.
And that's the difference.
He's like, we're not libertarians.
We don't believe in individuals.
We believe in the family or we believe in the nation and things like that, which, you know, it's like, it's hard because those guys do take the word libertarian.
And then when you fucking, you know, like want to rebel against them, it's like, yeah, fuck these libertarians.
And it's like, okay, I don't really even give a shit so much anymore.
I mean, I use the word, but like, I don't care what you want to call it.
I'm for private property ownership and the non-aggression principle and I'm anti-state.
That's not what those guys are.
They're not fucking libertarians.
Like libertarian equals Ron Paul.
It doesn't equal Ben Shapiro.
He's not a fucking libertarian.
He's a neocon, okay?
The problems you have with him have nothing to do with libertarianism.
And that's what this fucking like dissident right needs to get through their fucking heads.
And like, I like a lot of those guys.
I like some of them, not some, some of them, not so much.
But I like a lot of those guys.
But they need to wake the fuck up.
Like wake the fuck up and realize what's going on.
You know, it's like, okay, if you care about the nation so much, well, guess what's fucking destroying the nation?
It's this goddamn out of control government.
That's what's fucking destroying it.
That's what's, that's what's leaving you with nothing but fucking debt and a fucking house that you can't ever afford to buy.
It's the fucking government.
That's what's doing that to you.
It's nothing else.
You know, you talk about like this shit, like drain the swamp.
And you want to go with someone like Donald Trump who's going to drain the swamp.
What do you think that $1.4 trillion spending bill is?
That's the swamp.
That's it.
That's the swamp.
All you want is a president who will veto that and say no.
It was a fucking 2,300 page bill that was presented to the Congress, to the Congress with like three days.
None of them even fucking read it.
They don't even know where they're spending your goddamn money.
You want to know why you can't fucking afford to start a family?
It's because of that.
That's it.
Well, they got to spend four months putting together whether or not to impeach a president that the Senate's going to throw it anyways.
Right, right.
Who cares about raising the budget?
Yeah, yeah.
It's an afterthought.
No big deal.
But it's like, you know, you want to sit here and be like, oh, well, we're not, you know, we're not fucking libertarians like fucking Charlie Kirk or something.
Charlie Kirk isn't fucking railing against this fucking spending.
He's just telling you how great the bubble economy under Donald Trump is.
And that's the fucking deal with the bubble economy.
It's like, this is what's fucking you guys over.
This is what the whole thing is that this is what they had to do to reinflate the fucking bubble.
This is what they had to do.
If they weren't going to admit the truth in 2008, which was that, oh, yeah, we fucking wrecked the economy and everything we've been doing is wrong.
And we have to stop doing that so that the economy can recover.
Well, instead, they went, no, no, no, we just need more Keynesian economics, more big government.
This is the answer.
And look what they did.
You know, we're talking about closing in on the decade.
I think you mentioned this when we were talking the other day.
One of the big stories of the decade is this is the decade of low interest rates.
That's what they did.
It was nearly zero for most of the fucking decade.
And that's what they did.
They brought the fucking interest rates down to zero.
The numbers are like fucking staggering.
It was like something like, I fucking forget offhand, but it was like the Federal Reserve balance sheet went up to close to like $4 trillion or something like that.
It's insane.
It just flooded the market with liquidity, bring interest rates all the way down to zero.
And okay, so that did save the economy from, I don't know, going through a very difficult recession, maybe even a depression.
Like, okay.
But then now you're living in this world where, you know, the fucking, like the savers have been fucking punished.
They've destroyed the family saving, the saving in America.
They've punished like everybody on a fixed income, anybody who wants to like save for the future.
You guys are all fucked over now.
And who does that reward?
It rewards the Wall Street speculators.
And then people turn around and they go, you know, these libertarians, these individualists, it leads to this consumer culture where people are just getting rich off speculating.
It's like, no, no, no.
No, sorry, friend.
This was a government policy specifically designed to do what it's doing.
Specifically designed to do that.
That's where you get your consumer culture from.
And the fucking atomized individual shit, that's fucking, that's some left-wing fucking, you know, bullshit.
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It's not what libertarians believe in.
It's not what libertarians believe in.
Like the idea of libertarianism, and this is like true.
Fucking Ron Paul, like fucking Lou Rockwell, real Tom Woods, that real shit.
The real libertarians, what they believe in, it has nothing to do with fucking individuals versus groups.
It's not collectivism versus individualism in the sense of like, are you a family?
Do you go to a church?
Do you go to a temple?
Do you go to wherever?
Or are you part of a team?
Or are you an individual?
It's like, no, you recognize the reality of the situation is that people are going to work together in groups.
People are going to form collectives.
That's just human existence.
I mean, I don't know.
You could think of theoretically some guy who just goes and lives in the woods by himself.
But in reality, that doesn't happen very often.
We're a collective pack animal.
We're a social creature.
Okay.
The question libertarians ponder is whether or not it should be forced collectives or voluntary collectives.
And for all those people on the dissident right who are so concerned about everyone labeling you a fucking, you know, racist or you're concerned about demographic changes or any of that shit, it's like, oh, okay.
Well, maybe don't sign up for forced collectives.
Maybe that's maybe that's not going to work out so well for you.
Maybe you don't want forced integration.
It's another, literally just another way to say the exact same thing.
Forced collectivization or forced integration.
It's the same fucking thing.
And that's what you're dealing with now.
This is why I'm supporting Hornberger for fucking president.
It's like there would be people out there where it's like, well, Donald Trump is your only fucking, you know, your only hope to take on this power structure.
It's, you know, he stands between, you know, it's the socialists versus Trump or something like that.
It's like, I don't know.
Donald Trump just fucking spent $1.4 trillion.
How much more socialist are these guys going to fucking be?
As the king of the cocks on behind the horny burger.
Behind the horny burger.
There we go.
I mean, he does have burger in his name.
Obviously, Rob's going to support him.
Was there ever really a question about that?
Anyway, I don't know.
I really can't wait for these next few weeks.
Just to see how this all fucking shakes out.
See how it all shakes out.
There is something, much like the economy, I still do believe that Joe Biden is a house of cards that could easily fall apart.
Like, I could see theoretically.
Hopefully that happens during the general election because that's hilarious because you got to keep propping it up no matter how bad it gets.
You can't turn around and go, all right, we're going to put up someone else.
Yeah.
I mean, I kept thinking somebody else was going to jump into the race, but it's like, it's got to happen in the next few weeks now if somebody else is going to get in the race.
There's like, there's not too much time, not too much time to wait, or at least in the next month.
Somebody's got to jump in if they're going to do it.
Looking at you, Hilldog.
Looking at you.
That would be the most hilarious.
To see Hillary come back and lose one more time would just nothing.
I know it's evil, but it would actually make me happy inside if I'm not.
I'm bored by her.
I'd rather see Biden through.
Yeah, Biden's getting fun.
No one knew it was going to be this fun, but they really, man, the Democrats just really, they just put up the worst candidates.
People like, you can't believe they're this bad.
It's just something, man.
Who do they have who would have been good?
Like, who's in the Senate that I'm not thinking of?
They like, you know, could have made a better run at this.
Yeah, I don't know.
I really can't think of anyone.
Al Franken, if he didn't grab titties.
Well, I do think that this is, and I, by the way, I called it, yeah, I don't think Al Franken was ever going to be the guy, even if he, even if he wasn't a titty grabber.
I'm saying who's good on their side at all?
I don't know.
I really can't think of anyone.
But this was something that I thought was, I remember talking about this back in 2016, and I thought that this might be the biggest takeaway from the 2016 election was that in, you know, it's like even when things are moving fast, you're still stuck in the perspective.
Like if you're gaining a bunch of weight, let's say, but I see you every single day.
What are you trying to say, Dave?
We're not making this personal.
I'm not the hatred towards the politicians.
I'm really, I'm not hiding.
I'm laying it on pretty thick.
No, but you know what I'm saying?
Like, if I'm to see you every day and you're gaining weight, but then someone doesn't see you for six months and comes back and they're like, whoa, Robbie Bernstein got fat.
They're like, you are fat.
Hey, I look pretty good, everyone out there.
Don't listen to Dave right now.
And they point right.
I'm keeping it together, people.
And they go, you fat.
Just really being a dick about it.
Like, just pure hypothetical.
You are fat.
No, but like, you know what I mean?
But so we're seeing these things change little by little.
But if you, if you look back at it, you'd be like, holy shit, since like, say the last three presidential cycles.
Okay, if you go back three presidential cycles, it's 2008 and Obama is fucking running for president.
And he's, you know, he uses the internet a little bit, but social media isn't nearly like the force that it is today.
And alternative media almost doesn't exist the way it does today.
There's the podcast isn't even a thing.
You know, there might be a couple out there, but it's not even really a thing.
Like it's not a force.
It's not something that millions of people go to.
The, you know, YouTubers and all this stuff, it doesn't even fucking exist.
And half the online publications that are here now don't exist.
It's a whole different world.
And what was interesting with Hillary Clinton was that it seemed like I was like, I don't know that they'll ever be able to just run these establishment career politicians anymore without a whole lot of fucking shit being exposed about them.
You know, like Hillary Clinton ran for president in 2008.
She didn't win the nomination that year, but she got really far.
I mean, it was, you know, it was, her and Barack Obama had a battle the whole way.
Nothing about her fucking, nothing about Bill Clinton's fucking rape cases ever came up.
Nothing about her fucking corruption like on that level like really came up.
It wasn't like that.
Like that, none of this got brought up.
It's it's the landscape changed in 2016.
And likewise, Joe Biden ran for president in 2008, you know, and he was vice president running with Obama.
None of this corruption shit was coming up back then.
Now you can't keep it out.
You can't.
There's too many independent journalists.
And if there's a journalist who's fucking at some publication and they squash the story, he passes it on to his boy who tweets it out.
And that's it.
And now it's out there.
You know what I mean?
I mean, even just think about the fact that like there was this fucking, you know, reporter who was talking about how they squashed the Epstein story.
Oh, now the video's out and it's fucking going viral and everybody's seen it.
It's like back in the day that, and when I say back in the day, I mean, you know, in our adult lifetimes, not like fucking in the 1920s.
Like, but 10 years ago, that's just it.
We never know about that.
It never comes out.
This is a whole new era that we're in now.
And it's, you know, Biden, it's going to be tough.
And the way that Trump was able to kind of like checkmate that whole thing was that Trump is like, well, yeah, obviously I'm corrupt.
But you know that.
You already know that going in.
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That's your deal.
He's like, yeah, I'm corrupt, but I'm going to work on behalf of you.
And that's kind of his sell.
Hey, man, Stormy Daniels blew me.
I must be doing something right.
Stormy Daniels is pretty rough.
Stormy Daniels, you seen a good picture of Stormy McDaniels?
She's not my cup of tea, but it's a rough show.
A rough show.
All right.
We're going to wrap there.
I'm going to Los Angeles in a couple days.
So I'll get one more episode out to you guys before I leave.
And then that will be our last episode of the year.
So we'll do something to close out.
Yeah, we'll do something to close out.
Close out 2019 and get ready for 2020.
But thank you all for listening.
Thanks for listening all year long and all these years.
And yeah, hope you guys are having a good holiday season and all that stuff.