Owen Benjamin, aka "Big Bear," details his shift from comedian to conspiracy theorist, alleging Teva Pharmaceuticals monopolizes gender hormones and that Google acts as a state extension. He claims nuclear weapons are fake, the moon landing was a Disney/NASA hoax, and the Holocaust narrative serves Israeli control via trauma-based mind control like MK Ultra. Benjamin argues childless isolation fuels extremism, promoting family homesteading over internet fame on his alternative platforms, unauthorized.tv and DLive.tv, to resist what he views as a manufactured culture of victimhood. [Automatically generated summary]
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Government Too Big00:02:38
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Here's your host, James Smith.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
Let me just first off say apologies for missing Friday's episode.
I've been quite under the weather.
Nasty, nasty cold.
I got it.
My wife got it.
My daughter got it.
The whole Smith family was taken down by a nasty little virus.
But I'm back.
So I'll do a makeup episode this week.
I promise.
You can take that to the bank.
But for this episode, we have a guest in who I always love to have in.
Just one of my favorite people, one of my favorite people to hang out with, to listen to and to talk to.
Very few people today, I feel like, always make me laugh and make me think.
And maybe that's something about me, or maybe it's something about the times we live in.
But this guy always makes me laugh, always makes me think, and is just a great guy I always love to talk to.
So welcome back to the show.
Owen Benjamin, the big bear himself.
How are you, sir?
It's great to be here, my friend.
Sorry to hear about your cold, but you seem chipper today.
I'm okay.
It's still, oh, it's lingering a little bit.
The worst part was that Layla got it, and that was it.
It was like, I got it, and then Lauren got it.
And then I was like, please just don't let the baby get sick.
And then she got sick and she was sick on her first birthday.
And it's just the worst.
When your kids, I mean, she's fine.
She's fine.
They don't know what a birthday is yet.
So that's a good news.
Yeah, at least at one.
That's the only birthday you get where they have no concept that it's even their birthday.
Like, it's just for the adults.
It has nothing to do with them at all.
I didn't really understand.
You could have lied about my birthday until I was like 20.
Like, it's like, here's the cake.
You're like, I don't know.
What are we doing?
What are we even doing?
My parents were just so like Germanic and just not into so many normal things that my family was just, you know, they just, I remember in college, I used to be like, mom, should I come home for Christmas?
She's like, come in April.
It's cheaper.
It's just, you know, survive the winter.
Suing My Patreon00:14:02
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
That's actually solid advice if you want to just break things down from a cold-hearted perspective.
It is logical.
It's true.
She's like, we have the spirit of giving all year.
And I was like, good point, mom.
Yeah.
It's also, by the way, she saw through a lot of this stuff way before a lot of other people did.
She was on, she was on, she was on to some of the system stuff 30 years ahead of schedule.
Yeah.
Well, good for her.
So you've, you know, I was thinking about this over the last couple days because we texted back and forth and I planned on having you on on this podcast.
And I was just thinking about kind of like your career in general, the whole, the whole thing.
And it really has been a pretty incredible ride that you've had.
Like you've had a fucking interesting career with these different phases in these different things.
You know, there's so many people who just have kind of like an average ho-hum career and it kind of stays the same the whole time.
And you've had all of these different phases.
You were like a LA comedian in movies, like very successful out there in LA.
Then you kind of rejected that whole scene.
You were very embraced by the, I don't even know what to call it, conservative ink kind of, you know, the Dennis Pragers and the Steven Crowders and Shapiros, people like that kind of like all embraced you.
Then you kind of rejected all their thing.
Then you just went off on your own.
You're now a farmer.
You got this huge, huge YouTube following.
And then, of course, they, after demonetizing you, they've just recently took your entire channel down.
And it's, and now it seems like you're kind of moving into the next phase.
But I don't know.
I was just thinking about the whole thing.
And I was like, god damn, it's been a, you've been on quite a journey.
What do you think about the whole thing when you look back at it?
Not that it's over, but just looking at where you've come so far.
When you put it that way, it's, you know, my life sounds pretty damn good.
No, and that's the funniest part about this whole journey is all these people keep trying to do gotcha videos on me to like look back to prove I'm a shill or something.
And the one thing that hasn't really changed much is me.
You know, I think like throughout this whole process, people have kind of hired me to almost be like a mercenary because I'm really good at comedy and people like to listen to me and stuff.
And entertainment, which means to hold the mind, you know, government to control the mind, government.
You know, these are the words are telling you what they do.
So entertainment means to hold the mind of an individual.
So I'm really good at it.
So you'll just see group after group.
And like in LA, you know, that was before the left went insane.
I mean, they always have, looking back, I guess they've always been insane, but I didn't really know.
I didn't pay attention to politics until the trans child thing.
But they just liked me because I was good at what I do.
And so they could just put me on Leno or put me on Comedy Central and put a nickel in me and see me dance.
And then when I was verbally opposed to the trans child stuff, like on Twitter, and they said, you know, apologize, we'll drop you from CAA.
And I, you know, fired up the live stream and called everyone a sodomite per usual.
And then Steven Crowder had my back.
And I thought that, oh, wow, I never thought of it this way.
That maybe the right wing is more about truth than the left wing.
And then Joe Rogan put me on him like three times in six months.
And Dennis Prager had me do some of the Prague videos.
And over time, I'm like, hey, hey, guys, I figured out what's going on with this trans kid thing.
There's this company called Teva Pharmaceuticals that's out of Israel.
So the thing is, and they have the monopoly on all the hormones.
So, guys, I figured it out.
If we, this BDS stuff, you know, we should be opposed to it because we have to be able to boycott this Israeli company or else the hormones just keep pumping in.
Guys, did you know 70 of our congresspeople have dual citizenship with Israel?
And they're just like, uh, and so then that phase of my life ended.
Dennis Prager took down the videos.
Uh, when I questioned the moon landing, I remember Steven Crowder and his whole crew had like this big conference call with me about like, you know, they're so worried about me because, you know, Crowder's grandfather was like in the Air Force and they were like friends with astronauts and shit.
And so I'm like, yeah, but I mean, and I couldn't even take it seriously.
I'm like, do you think they made a phone call from the moon?
Just, how dare you?
So then from there, it just keeps going.
And then I get into YouTube and then they monetize me.
And, you know, money's flowing in.
Then they get rid of the monetization.
So I, me and Vox Day, who's awesome, start unauthorized.tv and that starts taking off.
Now we have apps if you want to get unauthorized apps on Roku and Android.
And so, you know, I'm kicked off Twitter.
I'm kicked off Facebook.
I'm kicked off Patreon, who I'm suing right now quite well.
Yeah, suing Patriot.
Yeah, like it's going really well.
Eventually, we'll be able to tell everybody about what's happening, but you know, we're not, we're not taking, I grow my own food for a reason, guys.
I'm I'm a fighter.
So, um, so they demonetize me from YouTube.
They take me off PayPal, kicked off of PayPal.
Even my merch guys kicked off PayPal.
But as one of my buddies recently said, someone was like, oh, Owen, I hope you're okay.
And my buddy just goes, no, he who Dinies himself out of hell all the time.
So now they wipe both my channels, 100 million hits on YouTube.
They take down both my channels, but now I'm on DLive.tv slash Owen Benjamin Comedy.
And the thing about these evil acts, which they are evil, they're not justified, is they it always reveals a truth.
I call it blowing the dandelion.
We're like, if they can have Ben Shapiro on, who's a war hawk, who lies, you know, he says that Syria gases people so we can start another empire building war.
And it's like four times the thumbs downs than he gets thumbs ups.
And then you have my channel, which will get 100,000 views on a two-hour stream where everyone's thumbs up.
The comments are like, you helped me get off heroin.
You helped me find God.
You're the funniest comedian I know.
And then they're like, no, you don't get that.
So we go to D Live and my numbers double in a day.
And all of a sudden, my internet works, you know, because for like two years on YouTube, we called it grabbling, where it would just go in and out.
And it would be like the audio would stop or blah, blah, and people would be like, Big Bear, you're so stupid.
You got to get a router.
And I'm like, I have the fastest internet I can get.
And they're like, so then we go to D Live and there's zero technical problems.
There's double the audience and there's no trolls.
And so that action that YouTube did revealed to everybody that they are anti-American.
They don't care what the customer wants.
It has nothing to do with free market at all.
They can print their own money.
The Federal Reserve has kind of really changed that whole game.
And they hate you and they're suppressing you.
And when the internet goes in and out, it's because they're doing it.
And so I'm having a fun run and because my root is in, you know, family, faith, food, you know, just like I have my own goats, alpacas, chickens, ducks.
We grow our own food.
We're on baby number three.
You know, my neighbors are awesome.
It's like, that's where I'm rooted.
So these people can LARP and play all their games all they want and be like, I'm the secret king.
Tee he, Tehe.
It's like, no, you're not.
You don't even know where to get fresh water if there's one day without power, dude.
And I'll give you some if you're not a dick.
You know?
Well, it is, you know, there's a lot that you said there that's really just a, it says something so like, and this is the thing about, I always hate when people that I love and people that I think are really interesting, like important voices get silenced in any way or kicked off any of these platforms.
But the bright side of it is that there's always something a little bit revealing about when it happens.
And there's something revealing about our current culture, the current, you know, kind of like, not even our culture, but the culture within these big tech companies of what is considered offensive and what is not.
And for, you know, whatever disagreements some people might have with you or whatever they think that maybe, you know, they think, oh, you got this wrong or you said this or even like, let's say hypothetically that we did land on the moon and that all did happen.
Oh, dare.
That's right.
But hypothetically, say it's it, and you're wrong about all this.
It's like, okay, so he's getting something wrong.
Like, what, what would be like so offensive about that?
But then I'll see the other, for whatever reason, someone just posted to like tagged me in it and I happened to see that there was some porn star who posted like God is, there's no such thing as God.
Go watch me get fucked at whatever site.
And like that's tweeted and no one's like, oh, that's that's like offensive.
That should be taken down.
So it's just interesting to shine a light on like what's considered offensive and what's not.
And to me, the central message, and correct me if I'm wrong, the central message of what you're really preaching is seems to not even really be political as much as it is.
Like your central message seems to be pro-family, pro-marriage.
And that's what you kind of encourage people toward.
And yet in our culture, that is seen as more offensive than somebody being anti-family, you know, pro-abortion, pro-baby murder.
Like it's just, there's something interesting about that that we should all kind of, you know, notice.
Oh, yeah.
It's the inverse of God versus like in my quote unquote, you know, what I would call my darkest days, I was never immoral.
I was amoral, which is hugely different, where it's like, I didn't care.
You know, you do you, I do me, you know, whatever.
Immoral is the hatred of God, where it's like, there is no God.
Watch me fuck 10 guys.
That's not just whatever.
You know, it's like we do our own thing.
It's like an act of hatred.
And the thing that I think I preach that the powers that be hate is to not be a victim.
And I'm seeing the victim stuff rise in like the white guy narrative where it's like, oh, the Jews are causing all these problems.
And don't get me wrong.
I've called out a lot of Jewish crimes, probably a lot more than the average person, you know, like to the point where I've been called, you know, that my comedy isn't comedy.
It's rants of hate by the times of Israel and all this stuff.
But like Jews don't cause your problems.
You do.
I always tell people, oh, they're like, oh, Jews are running the porn industry.
I'm like, then don't watch porn.
They're like, but I'm like, you're doing it.
Like, that's the next level.
And I saw it with 9-11 where you have the Muslims, they're taking your freedom.
Now give us the Patriot Act.
And as a goat shepherd, I know exactly how it works now.
You scare animals into running into a smaller pen.
And Jews aren't causing evil.
There's just a small group of them.
They're in incredibly powerful positions that have dual loyalty with separate nations.
And that's a problem.
But as soon as people make that jump and blame their problems on a demographic, because they took out a high interest loan for a Jetski, they can't stop watching pornos and they're hooked on opioids.
It's like, dude, you have to actively do that.
And people are like, oh, the demographic takeover of America.
I'm like, how many kids do you have?
None.
Why?
Because I watch all the pornos.
I'm like, Western women would rather be with one of these, you know, machete-wielding psychos.
They're trucking in than you because all you're doing is whacking off in your mommy's basement.
And now you're blaming everybody but you.
And that's that, that's a ticket.
I always tell people, don't take the ticket.
You know, vengeance is mine, says the Lord.
You know, that's real.
It's like, you don't get to go.
I want to make t-shirts and say Hitler should have homesteaded.
Where it's like, you don't get to be the guy.
It's like, you don't get to be the guy with tanks.
You know, if society is corrupting and rotting, it's like, it's because you aren't actively praying.
Like my family prays at dinner now.
It's like we don't watch Disney movies.
We call it the devil mouse.
And people can call me paranoid all you want, but I don't bitch.
It's like, listen, if I see problems in something, I don't think that those people should be like hurt, but I think that I'm not going to engage in it.
I'm trying to pay off my mortgage.
I paid off my wife's student loans.
I don't want to be in any debt.
And that way, if people want to be a part of that and be angry all the time, fine.
In the meantime, I'm going to be milking my goats, growing my kids, teaching my kids homeschooling.
You know, people are like, oh, in school, you know, the trans kids.
I'm like, what is this school you speak of?
Yeah.
Well, it is.
Look, it's always, it's always easier to kind of bitch about the problem than to actually take a proactive solution.
And I got to say, I mean, like, I, you know, it's, it's funny because even when you say some of this stuff, and I feel this way with a lot of the cultural stuff that I talk about now, it's almost like I can, I can see what I'm saying from the eyes of me 10 years ago.
And I would have thought some of this shit was so crazy.
But the truth is now, having having a daughter who, you know, and she's only one year, one years old, it's a long time before she's going to be dealing with this stuff.
But I look at some of the fucking like movies and the shows and the media culture out there.
And you're like, God damn, I mean, I would never let my daughter watch this stuff.
This is really poisoning to let teenage girls watch this so sexually charged, you know, propaganda.
But then at the same time, you go, but I have control over this.
You know, it's like, I don't know, so fucking do something about it.
Ben Shapiro Speech00:05:41
You know, I had this, um, I was, we were briefly talking about this before the show started, but I we didn't have time to really get into it.
But so I was talking on the show and I had a clip of it went like semi-viral.
It got shared around a bit, where I was talking about Ben Shapiro's speech that he gave about you without ever naming you, which was just so, so fucking retardedly hilarious, but it was just like, you know, it's like I was saying to you before, I was like, you know, he's talking about like, he's like, oh, there's people who are, you know, they're, they're ranting about the moon landing into their webcam and they name themselves after mammals and blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, I mean, just say his name.
If you're going to give a speech about Owen, just say, like, so what is it?
Like, what, whatever the percentage is, some portion of your crowd doesn't know who you're talking about.
And they're sitting there.
A lot of people are not famous enough for that to make any sense.
Well, I mean, I'm sure some of them do.
I'm sure some of them know who you are.
But at least I'd say a half have no idea what he's talking about.
So they're like, who is this guy?
Who are we talking about?
Is this a hypothetical person who's doing this?
Is very specific for a hypothetical.
And then the other half is like, we know you're talking about Owen.
So just say Owen.
But anyway, so he goes, and then he starts bragging about how Jews are the ones who are controlling all of Trump's foreign policy.
Like all of Trump's foreign policy advisors are Jews and that he's done everything for Israel.
And I was saying, I was like, well, don't you see where like people who aren't happy with the foreign policy, like who aren't happy with endless mass murder campaigns where our fucking, you know, we kill a whole bunch of innocent people in third world countries, we drain the country of trillions of dollars and have nothing to show for it except, you know, like the bravest and strongest amongst us being turned into like fucking, you know, like half the man they used to be and then committing suicide and all this shit.
So those people might not be so thrilled with the Jews, you know?
And so I said that.
And I think that's, that's reasonable to me.
And then, and by the way, I did get a lot of like the kind, I got a lot of credit from people like who were like, oh, Dave's being honest about this and we appreciate that.
And I appreciate those guys.
But then I did get a lot of these alt-right guys who were kind of like saying, they're like, what do you think Dave's angle is here?
Don't trust the Jew who's calling out other Jews because he's just trying to manipulate you.
And it's like, man, go fuck yourself.
They do the same thing to me.
They call me a Jew all the time.
I'm convinced that it's ultra Zionists in charge of those guys because that's insane.
I really, because Nick Flentes and all his little milker nation there, they would always be like, oh, and Benjamin is his grandmother is part Jew.
So that means he's a Jew.
And then take a 23 and me Jew.
And then I go on to D Live and none.
So I'm like, wait a minute, is this a troll farm?
And then it dawned on me that a lot of these like ultra white guy stuff, it feeds into the hands of Zionism better than anything because actual, I hate the actual race, you know, actual anti-Semitism is pretty rare, but it's kind of ramping up a little, unfortunately.
But like criticizing war isn't anti-Semitic, Ben Shapiro.
You know, he's like made this whole alt-right thing about like, if you're on the, if you lean right morally, but you're against empire war, you hate Jews.
You may not want to make that parallel, Ben, but like the whole Jew blood thing, it's like that plays right into the hands of Zionism because a lot of Jewish behavior happens out of fear.
It's, it's, you know, the, the, you know, the, the constant programming of fear is what keeps a lot of Jews are some of the biggest victims of it.
And that's why, you know, again, as a goat farmer, I know when someone's acting like a prey animal or when someone's acting like a predator, and a lot of Jews are acting like prey, they don't act like they're in control, they act like they're terrified all the time.
They're like, I'm just trying to, I mean, we may have to make that guy illegal and that guy illegal because they're, they feel like they're in a corner that everyone hates them.
So it's like, I didn't even think about Jewish crimes until I was 37.
Like, this isn't like American tradition to not like, to be like, those Jews.
Yeah.
You know, and so this whole thing is ramping up to create, you know, the devil just like, just likes chaos.
Like the devil doesn't care who's on his side.
He wants any soul that will be, that will do these fake binaries.
And just like in Princess Bride, both cups are poison.
Right.
You know, it's like the cup in front of you and the cup in front of me.
And they, they're both poison.
The fake binary of are you going to be a Dan Crenshaw, one-eyed weenus, you know, Warhawk or Ilian Omar, like weirdo, you know, how about neither?
How, you know, when they say red pill or blue pill, I used to do a joke, I don't take pills from black guys in trench coats.
Why do I have to pick?
I don't have to pick somebody, you know, and I use you as an example, you, Dave, Weiss, and Tyler Goldstein, where I'm always like, name, like, how do you not want those three guys on your squad versus Steven Crowder?
And then I list all these other guys.
I'm like, you know, like some of the best conspiracy guys in America are black dudes and no one realizes that.
They're like, oh, there's so many black dudes that have been that have that do not trust the government since Malcolm X to the point where they love my shit.
They're always like, yeah, man, Owen knows what the fuck's going on, you know?
And so all these narratives of like bigot, racist, homophobe, anti-Semitism, that's just the devil's symphony where they just keep people, you know, are you, they want to divide your gender, your generation, your income, your religion.
I mean, there's no unity in Christianity.
You got the Catholics and you got the Protestants.
And then within Protestants, you got.
Cash Call Mortgage00:02:56
For me, it's, does your yes mean yes?
And does your no mean no?
And we can be friends in that case.
Are you a liar?
Do you lie for lollipops and fancy pants?
When you find out the truth, do you say it or do you bury it to get something from me?
And that's the line I have.
You know, real recognize is real.
And so when you talk like that, you can get to the bottom of stuff.
And it doesn't, and we can all, you know, we can all thrive.
We can bloom where we're planted.
But if people just make these arbitrary lines in the sand, like, and just say their talking points and just, you know, a revolution means to go around a revolving door.
You know, it's the difference between revolution and revelation where revelation is to reveal.
The revolution is just ranging around.
I said, goddamn liberals.
It just doesn't end.
It's just a circle.
And so I'm out of that.
That's why I've had an interesting life.
What you were talking about earlier is because I'm not on a circle.
I'm not like printed on a record.
I say exactly what I think.
And so because of that, I've been kicked out of towns and been in movies.
Well, there's no one.
I mean, if there, there's no one I know who says what they think more unguarded than you.
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There's a lot of people, and I've, I even, I consider myself one of the people who kind of like tells it like, like, I see it, but you are somebody who will literally, it's like you, and this is what you did with your YouTube channel for a long time.
You kind of let your audience into your own process.
Like, you'll even talk to them about things that you haven't worked out completely yourself and preface it by being like, look, I haven't worked this out completely myself, but I'm thinking about this and thinking about that.
And I think that's where when people try to play these gotcha games, like they go back, oh, Owen said this or Owen said that.
Advertiser Incentives00:16:13
It's like, dude, you've more than anybody else I know, you're just like, look, I'm laying all the cards out on the table.
So you can come and be like, oh, look, we have this one card.
And you're like, yeah, I put those on the table a long time.
So I'm not, I was never trying to keep these close to the vest.
And that was something that was different about your YouTube channel and the videos that you still do at unauthorized.tv and stuff like that.
But it's like, that's something that really is.
I don't know anybody who does that to the extent that you do.
Just lets people into the process.
Yeah, I do it for many reasons.
I've always been like that.
My mom raised me like that.
And also, it's the only way, you know, I have a really fast brain and it works really well.
And I can access a lot of information and play piano by ear and stuff like that.
And I think one of the reasons is by not lying and by putting everything on the table, I don't think I'm special with that.
I think that if you have to remember like three different stories, it slows down your processor speed.
So it's like, I can't imagine another way where I have to think back.
And then also when people try and do gotcha shame tactics, I can just look them in the eye and be like, yeah, the only reason you know that is I told you that and I thought it at the time.
Like I used to think Dennis Prager was good for America.
When I was on that show, I thought that he was good and now I don't because I've, and I think by taking people through the process that I've been on and being so open, it almost dramatizes the lies that surround us, right?
Like the fact I genuinely believe these things and would go in and then people can go on the ride with me and then see what happens.
You know, it's like, I don't know how to explain.
I'm working through the idea right now.
But it's like, but it's like, you know, you complimented me recently on that one video I posted from a year ago about my friend dying in war.
And I don't drink anymore, but I was drunk at the time.
I started crying and I was like reading an article and you were telling me how like powerful it was.
But I was like looking at it and it was powerful, but there were points in it that I would change.
Like when I was like, there was wrath in me, you know, and I was expressing that.
But looking back, it's, I'm glad I showed that to people.
And I'm glad that I didn't, you know, the whole journey, I don't regret any of it, but like I thought Ben Shapiro killed my friend.
You know, like in my mind, I was like, you will pay for this.
But I'm like talking to, you know, I really believe that evil and demons and stuff like that do kind of inhabit people and you can, and they can leave people.
Like, like hurting a person doesn't get rid of evil.
Evil is a material reality and they can like take people off the path.
And then you, but it's evil has to be your enemy, not the person, because that's fleeting.
That's like, you know, it's like the drug war.
It's like trying to stop, you know, it's like trying to stop the desire to put drugs in your body because of, you know, trauma or anxiety or depression by locking people up or like burning fields.
You know, it's like attacking the ocean.
It's just like, it doesn't work.
You know, it really is an inner battle.
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
And I actually think, and to me, this is partly why it kind of reinforces my libertarian views and stuff like that.
But where I go, look, I mean, you can't, the truth is, and if you look at it from a religious perspective, which might be the most, you know, accurate way to look at it, is that, you know, God gave man free will.
And with that comes, and a lot of times, like the most basic, the most basic bitch atheist argument is like, well, if there's a God, then why would all these bad things happen?
Like, why would children die?
Why would people commit murder?
Why would they do all these bad things if there was God?
But then if you really examine that closer, you go, well, look, if God didn't give us free will, there wouldn't, it's not that there would only not be evil.
There couldn't be good either.
Like, let's just say, if, if theoretically, you had no free will, Owen Benjamin had no free will, and I like programmed you like a machine to only do good.
Could I then, at the end of the day, say, hey, you're a really good guy, Owen?
Well, no, because you had no other option in the game.
Like you were programmed to do this.
And then also, what's really the point of existence at all?
Everyone's just programmed to do what they're going to do.
So the only way you can do good is if you have the choice to do evil or good.
And the reality of the situation is that human beings have the choice.
And you can try to, you can try, like the state can say, no, we're going to be a God who doesn't grant you free will.
We're going to be a God who tells you you can't do heroin or you can't visit a prostitute or you can't do this.
But it's like, but you know what?
At the end of the day, you're not God.
And those people still do have free will and they'll still exercise it.
And you can't actually force that.
The only option is to use your free will to try to convince other people to use their free will to do the right thing.
And like, that's, it's a harder sell in some ways because it's always easier to say, no, let's just force people into doing it.
But the reality is, whether it's the porn thing or anything else, it's easy to say, let's make porn illegal or something.
It's like, no, how about this?
Turn it off.
Why don't we all turn it off?
Like that's, and which, by the way, what I've done, I know you've done.
And it's just like, it's better.
And then be a light and shine to other people and be like, look, man, I'm telling you, your life is going to be better if you stop watching people who were abused as children recreate their childhood abuse.
It's going to be better.
And the thing about free will, it's almost like being like, yeah, my wife's faithful.
She totally loves me.
How do you know?
Because I lock her in the basement.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
But here's the one thing about libertarianism, though, that I've shifted a little bit on.
And I think it's only because of the existence of the Fed potentially or fiat currency, but I've been kicked off PayPal, Patreon, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook.
So when people are like, the free market at work, I'm like, you want to know how I get super chats?
The P.O. box.
You know, like literally the only thing that hasn't been shut down that I haven't made ourselves like unauthorized, which is great.
But there's a weird thing that's happening with free markets because they aren't fair.
So it's like you have YouTube and all this stuff.
You know, when like I, I, uh, I got it, I've made a backup channel.
I flipped on my monetization for one month just to sneak it in there.
And YouTube's cut after one month was 1500 bucks.
Just that was their cut and they wiped it.
And it's like, and that wasn't even because of advertisers.
That was membership.
So all they had to do was just put me in my little corner and collect all that money.
And they're so motivated by non-market forces that they were like, because they don't have to follow the Constitution.
They don't have to follow anything.
They're like, that's why they're trying to make NASA privatized so that they can say, you know, that we can say, let's see the telemetry data.
And they're like, no, trade secrets.
And it's like, did you guys go to the moon or not?
And so, and so that's why things get really interesting because free markets work in a closed system without fake money.
You know, like monopoly boards, they're just getting complicated.
That's why I've really went back to real, real base mentality of just, it's on my shoulders.
I make my food.
I provide for my family.
My wife literally makes our yarn from our own alpacas.
You know, it's like, I took my demonetization very seriously.
So, so from there, it's like, you know, allowing people to have free will, but at the same time, preaching a world that has morality from God, where it's like, or else, I don't know, it's just, it's an interesting time.
No, listen, I completely agree.
The Bench of Bureau's are trying to flood our market.
Because the thing about open border, like open markets for the whole world is labor can also be a race to the bottom.
So now instead of like the father being able to work for his family, you can just bring in 20 Guatemalans to work for a quarter, you know, and that's, and that's a thing.
It's almost like free markets work the best when we assume that everyone wants something reasonably good out of life because then you get these like weirdo, um, like almost autists that are like, but the numbers are going up.
Right.
Right.
But everyone's dead.
Well, we have what we have right now is the worst of both systems in a sense.
So you have basically this idea.
It's kind of, it's a more elaborate version of what you could just see with the big banks, where you go, so you have capitalism for all your profits, but socialism for all of your losses.
So if you, if you, if you lose, you get bailed out by the government, but if you make profits, there's absolutely no caps on your profits.
So it's easy.
But I would just, and I agree with what you're saying, by the way, the heart of what you're saying.
I think it's something libertarians really have to grapple with.
That you go, look, the big threat.
Look, man, I mean, who kicked you off of YouTube was Google, right?
Google are the ones who own YouTube.
Google is the most powerful company outside of like, you know, maybe weapons companies or big banks or something like that.
But they're the most powerful.
I mean, they control human knowledge.
They control what you see when you search.
It's the way DNA.
Yes.
Well, look, I made this joke on the show before, but I said, if you want to know how powerful Google is, you have to Google it.
Like, that's how much they control the knowledge.
You actually have to go to them to try to be like, let me Google how much power does Google, how many employees does Google have?
Google?
They're in a lot of, and, and this is something that libertarians have to grapple with.
I just, I look at it like this.
I think to myself, what we're talking about are like really deep-rooted cultural problems.
And if you look at mankind, like for thousands of years, things like family and religion and community and culture, these were all things that bound us together, that were really how we, you know, survived as a species.
It took a lot of hard work to break these things away from, you know, the people.
And what is it that did all of that?
Like, what is it that really created that?
And to me, I mean, you nailed it with the Federal Reserve, but it's just the ever-growing state, the fact that the government controls educating our children, that the government, just by its very nature, the welfare state, the warfare state, they slaughter some of the bravest, strongest amongst us end up getting killed in these pointless wars.
Then all these other people get hooked on government handouts.
They destroy the community.
They destroy the churches.
They destroy the father in the household, all of these things.
And then when you're just left there with like, oh, and by the way, these companies that are quasi-created by government are allowed to do whatever they want to do.
It's like everything is already so poisoned that it's not a genuine free market.
And it's not, and I agree with you.
It's very, very problematic.
I mean, there's like, it's terrifying to me how much control big tech has.
And it also, you know, it goes to show how complicit the conservative ink is in all of this.
Because even when the Republicans, you know, like had control of Congress and Trump's the president, there's no pressure on them.
I mean, okay, maybe for pure libertarians like myself, they'd go, well, I don't want the government to write a law to say you can't just boot people off of social media.
But these guys are big government people.
I mean, they don't care about the government writing a law.
And there was no pressure at all on them to be like, well, why would you not let these companies do that when they're kicking off all of your people?
This is clearly going to cause you to lose.
Like we were saying before, it's almost like the Republicans and conservative ink exists to lose to the left.
That's the whole point.
Yeah.
The whole point is just to be like, just to just to give a little release valve where someone's like, they're this close to doing it.
I just realized something as you were talking that I think that one of the problems is there's no separation anymore between the state and Google and Facebook.
It's all the same thing.
It's like, and a lot of these churches, the reason they're getting so converged is tax breaks.
You know, it's like all these little incentives can just be an entrance for corruption.
Where if a church like Kanye West formed a church to not pay taxes, which is kind of smart in a way, but at the same time, a little manipulative and shitty, where it's like, so, you know, if churches follow the government line, they don't have to pay taxes.
And it's same with like YouTube.
And there isn't a difference.
I think that's the big takeaway is that the corporations aren't a free market reality at all.
They're almost like playing a LARP.
They're LARPing.
They're like live action role playing where it's like, you be the wizard and I'm the dragon.
T-E-E.
And you're just like, man, I got to get goats.
No, but you're absolutely right.
And the truth is that there's been this deal between the state and the church.
And there's a reason why the people who believed in an all-powerful state, like if you look at the examples that obviously stand out from the 20th century of people who believed in an all-powerful state, thinking like the commies, the Nazis, all these guys, you know, they really believed.
I know there's all these arguments about like what the differences are.
Were the Nazis really socialists or whatever, but you can't argue that they both believed in a centralized, all-powerful state, and they were very hostile to religion.
And it's obvious why, because it's like, if people believe that there's something bigger than any man on this planet, that there's a morality that is real that exists above everybody.
I don't care if you call yourself chancellor or king or dictator or whatever.
We believe that you're being judged just like the rest of us are.
That's not so great for someone who wants to exercise authoritarian power.
And what the more kind of shifty and intelligent version in the post-World War II order has been has basically been, hey, look, churches, you don't have to pay any taxes.
We will incentivize your right to exist and allow you to kind of build up without this shackle that everyone else has on them.
But you better not be criticizing the state.
You better not be out there advocating against the entire order that we're setting up.
And when religious people do start, you know, really preaching against the organized state, you have people like David Koresh and Waco, and the state cracks down on them really, really hard.
And it's like that, that's why, because it seems so obvious, right?
Like in America today, if you have the left, and not just the left, but the status quo pushing things like abortion on demand, transgenders, you know, giving story time hour at kindergartens or whatever, wouldn't it be obvious that the church would be like, we're against this?
I mean, every single one of our members thinks that this is like the most heinous thing you could possibly do, but you don't see a large pushback from them.
And I got to think that part of that is because they've got a pretty cushy deal set up.
Oh, yeah.
I used to do a bit where it's a conservatives couldn't conserve the female bathroom where it's like they couldn't keep men out of a woman's bathroom.
That's because they were scared to not get the Super Bowl in their state.
Yeah.
Like it's like, you cowards.
That's why I don't even pay attention to politics anymore because it's like just the cowardice of it where they just refuse to say anything true.
And the state, what you're referring to as the state is, it's kind of profound because the whole thing is about destroying man's relationship with his own creator, which is not federal.
It's federal in a much different sense.
And that's one reason why I hammered the moon landing.
I know it makes me sound, as some people call me, a kook, but that whole story was to destroy man's connection with God, where a man can land on the moon and plant a flag and that we're all spinning endlessly in chaos and we're all from a big bang that's chaos.
And the only reason we're here is because bacteria bang genitals and jizzed and came.
It's just like you're nothing.
You know, all the grains of sand and all the beaches in the world, there's more galaxies than you.
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You don't matter now.
Pay me.
Pay me, motherfucker.
You know, and so it's like that with all kinds of stuff.
Like, for example, I've done whole streams and I know this is probably going to get people to get real fired up.
And I'm guessing your crowd is open-minded enough to think about it, but nuclear bombs aren't real.
And one of the reasons that they did that is to make everybody think that a state at any time could press a button and kill everyone.
And you can go back, and I know that sounds crazy, but all like all the evidence says that they weren't real.
Like, you know, Nagasaki Roshma are the only times they've ever been used ever.
And there was only one reporter allowed to report on it in the whole world.
He was from the New York Times.
He was a Lithuanian Jew.
And for three months, he said that it was nuclear bombs, even though Japan was reporting that it was firebombing.
And the only reason they surrendered was because Russia invaded.
And I used to do a physics podcast at Caltech.
Nuclear bombs aren't even possible.
A. B, there was no fallout anywhere they've ever been tested except for Bikini Atoll that no one can go to.
And so people always say, but why, big bear?
Why would they fake all that?
The nukes, you know, I'm like, so how do we start wars?
How do we keep status quo?
The nukes to North Korea's got the nukes.
Where?
I'll show you what kills people, despair, alcoholism, opioids, suicide.
It's like, where's all this nuclear fallout?
And when I was a kid, it was duck and cover under our desks.
Like we'd always do these drills because I lived in a town with three nuke plants.
And so, and then AIDS, of course, and bird flu, Y2K, Ilion Gonzalez, you know, all the fear, fear, fear.
And so the whole point is that at any moment, the government can press a button and everyone dies, even though there's zero evidence to it.
And when they did all the testing in Nevada, there's no radiation.
There's no radiation.
They're always like, oh, for thousands of years, the streams will be poisoned, Big Bear.
It's like, well, Hiroshi and Nagasaki, no one ever left ever.
Like, there's no radiation.
They're like, but, but, big bear, don't you see?
And it's like, don't you see?
It's all this big scam.
And there's obviously huge weapons, but that nuclear thing.
And then when you look at Oppenheimer and when he does his little, like, re-watch his video on YouTube, it's hysterical.
He's like, the baga vagueta, we have become death.
And he fakes cries and all this stuff.
And, you know, you got Albert Einstein who married his first cousin, you know, jumping in.
Like, yeah, it's, it's just nonsense.
And it's like, for all the nonsense we've been through, like building seven in New York just fell down.
You know, everyone's like, yeah.
Like Ebola, you know, it's killed less people than O.J. Simpson, but we should talk about it endlessly.
And then you have to understand that, like, my dad taught rhetoric, Masscom.
This is called trauma-based mind control.
You scare people into a state of freeze.
It's fight, flight, or freeze.
And they freeze.
And then they can just get you to do anything.
And now they're like, your five-year-old's trans, and no one says anything because they've been inundated with so much shit and fear that it's like no one says anything.
And people are like, what is happening to the world?
And I'm like, we didn't go to the moon.
All right.
Hold on.
So let me, let me ask you, because I will say, I think there's no question that the trauma-based rhetoric is something that's used all the time.
And there's so many countless examples of this.
And certainly nuclear weapons are used in that sense.
And you're absolutely right about the kind of like the boiling frog.
You know, like they have to kind of like keep building on all this bullshit.
I mean, just imagine trying to go back to the 50s and just start with the trans thing.
Like imagine they just came out in the 50s with the trans thing.
There'd be 2010.
Oh, yeah.
But there'd be men in the streets with guns.
Like, what the fuck are you telling me?
You're telling me my boy's a girl.
I will drag you into the public square and tar and feather you.
But I must say, I don't know a lot about this stuff with the nuclear weapons idea.
That's fine.
I'm just throwing it out there.
People can do some research.
Well, let me just ask you, where did you like it?
Like, when did you get interested in this?
Or what did you see or read?
Like, what sparked this kind of like viewpoint or this belief that this is all lies?
Well, once I realized that the moon landing didn't happen, I used to want to be an astronaut.
You know, I'm a direct descendant from Clark of Lewis and Clark.
Like, you know, I've wanted to go on the road for a long time, you know?
And so, and then I found out that, you know, when the more you look at the moon landing and the more you look at the, like they say they, they deleted all the evidence.
We never went back because we destroyed the technology.
The ISS is up there, even though people are like, so what happens if like a meteor hits it?
They're like, it's all green screen.
It's just nonsense.
Right.
And so once I looked into that, I'm like, what the hell else have they lied about?
And so one of my buddies directed me to this dude, Crow777, who's awesome.
And he just takes two hours and just shows you everything about nuclear bombs and how it's and see, I don't like these weird closet conspiracies like, oh, we have secret moon bases or I don't follow Q because I don't even know what Q is.
I like the shit that's hiding completely in plain sight where it's just like, boom.
You know, like the Titanic, the three guys that were supposed to go fight against the Federal Reserve all died in the Titanic.
And it was owned by JP Morgan.
Like, there you go.
You know, like they all, they all died in the Titanic.
And JP Morgan owned the ship, was supposed to go on and didn't get on.
That's historical fact.
So that's the stuff I like.
I don't like when it's mysterious.
And so when you look at nuclear bombs and you think of how all this rhetoric, all this fear, all this that the greatest weapon in the world, that no one's ever seen it, the one time it was ever used, it was lied about, you know, and it didn't do what they said it would do.
Japan did not surrender because of Hiroshima Nagasaki.
Japan reported that it was firebombing, just like they always did.
There was no fallout, no grass, plants, animals, human beings.
None of them.
Didn't go back.
The only people reporting on it in Japan were a house of Jesuits whose house miraculously didn't get destroyed.
The only one reporting on it in America was one Lithuanian Jew working for the NEW YORK Times, and the WAR Department, before it was called the Defense Department, was called the WAR Department a little more honest back then.
Yeah, so that was the mechanism for global control.
There's no Cold War without nuclear bombs.
So you come up with this fantasy this, this ultimate.
Uh, you know like, for example, satellites were invented by Arthur C Clar.
He's a fiction writer and people like it's satellites are credited to a fiction writer.
You know, it's like Disney and Verner Von Braun were best friends.
Like Disney, Disney and Vern Von Braun were both like Disney had a huge part of NASA.
He had a huge part of creating the illusion of NASA.
Now we pay them 58 million dollars a day to not go back to the moon for 50 years, and that's why I I think libertarians should be offended by that is just because of money.
It's like 58 million dollars a day.
They can't do what they did in 1969 and what appears to be a meth heads tree fort and and they deleted all the evidence and none of it's physically possible.
And they made a phone call from the moon.
A dude, a drunk, named Buzz, who drove around on a car in the Moon.
Buzz's mom, named Moon, kills herself that year.
Oops, and everybody's like yeah, and they can't even agree on if they saw stars.
Well I, I will say this, i'm about pride, so I I haven't looked into any of the stuff uh, on the uh the, the nuclear weapons.
I will do that uh before, before we speak next, so I can, I can speak on it with a little bit more uh knowledge, but I will say um, and and I don't know, I don't know what the happened, but there is some really, really shady shit over the moon landing.
I will tell you you have convinced me of that.
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At the least, I will say there's some really shady shit where it's like there's these images that they put out that you're like okay, this is obviously bullshit.
Like you can't convince anyone in 2020 that this is like not just a fake footage and the delete, they photoshopped it.
You can see yeah, square.
And the dude.
They say that human beings are going mock 88 and turning.
Yeah it's it's, you're really mock two and you turn, your body becomes liquid, like going 88 times the speed of sound, and they turned like at the best case, at the best case scenario.
They put out a ton of just blatant lies while they were doing this, because they and, and then the thing about delete uh uh, deleting all of the data.
That is just so goddamn fucking shady, like that's.
Because they were so shady to reuse, they had to reuse the tapes.
Like what the fuck?
You're what you think?
Funny dude, I dude.
Like some people get stressed out about this shit where they're like, why don't people see it?
I'm like dude, they're the most, they're the highest budget comedy troop in history.
Like I I, I enjoy it, dude now, because once you see what it is, every press release they do is laugh out loud.
Funny, they're like Giant meteor, the size of pyramid.
Kuder could not hit us today.
And I'm just, I just post it and go, no, it isn't.
Yeah.
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Now, I want to say, I want to touch on something else you said there because it speaks to my audience and to libertarians and stuff like that.
And where you said libertarians should be offended about this, this fucking, these money.
Well, right, the money.
And even if, like, no matter what you believe, even if you believe the moon landing happened and you believe nuclear weapons and all are real and all of this shit, which I'm ambivalent on.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm not saying they did or didn't.
Worst case scenario, I'm still.
Everyone dies.
Well, right.
Well, right.
But regardless, but these things are clearly used.
They're used for these fucking, like, these rackets where people just rob money from hardworking people and prop up these absolutely useless industries.
I mean, like, all of these things like are just, you know, they're such blatant rackets.
And the thing that's interesting to me, and I'll tell you, you, from my audience, right?
Like when I announced that you were coming back on the show, you're like a very like polarizing guest that I have on.
Like people are either crazy excited or really like up in arms about you even like coming back on the show.
It's always kind of one or the other.
And I find it interesting.
And this is the point I was trying to get at with the Ben Shapiro speech when I was talking about that, where it's like from the libertarian perspective.
And this is one of the things that bothers me about lots of libertarians.
It's like where, and this is part of the reason why the libertarian movement has gone soft over the last basically since 2012 when Ron Paul was running.
It's like, what happened to us having principles and having courage and actually putting things in like moral priorities?
So I was saying this, look, I'm, and I'll preface this by saying, if it's necessary to say, I'm somebody who is believes that the Holocaust happened.
Now, when I say that, let me just be more specific.
I don't know that exactly six million people died in the Holocaust.
I don't know what the exact number was, but I know that Hitler was a totalitarian.
The Nazis were a totalitarian government.
They were absolutely horrible to the Jews, robbed the Jews of their property, of their freedom, of their lives, rounded them up.
That's another false binary.
That's another false binary.
Right.
Not just the Jews.
Yes, yes.
And not just...
You're allowed to talk about it doesn't take away from anything.
My point isn't even about how many died, who they died, whatever.
My point is that.
You're allowed to question it.
Yes, you're allowed to question it.
Allowed to talk about it.
But even, but by the way, and I do, and there were concentration camps, there were death camps.
I do believe millions of Jews were put to their death.
Babies, women, innocent people, not people involved in the banking sector and subverting culture, just fucking innocent people slaughtered.
And okay, but that being said, right?
That's that's where I come from.
And I have family who are involved in it, okay?
That being said, why from a libertarian's perspective?
Let's say you have Ben Shapiro who's advocating the next war.
And then let's just say there is an alt-right guy out there or a groper or a fucking big, a bear, or whoever the fucking group is out there.
Let's say there is one of them who just goes, I don't think the Holocaust happened.
I don't think it happened.
I don't think it was 100,000 Jews were killed and not 6 million or something like that.
Why am I supposed to be so much more outraged with somebody who says, so let's say it happened and he says, I don't think it happened.
Why is that supposed to be the line that I'm so angry about?
But the guy actually advocating the next genocide that is really happening, that we can all agree is really happening.
That's not more morally outraged.
Like I've said before, two groups of libertarians, and I actually got applause for this, but it was a lot of my people there.
So that might be misleading.
But why can't libertarians be the one?
It's like, listen, I'm not a fan of David Duke, but John McCain is a lot worse.
John McCain is a much worse human being than David Duke was.
Why don't libertarians get that?
Why are we afraid?
Why do we have to play by the left-wing paradigm of like racist is worse than mass murderer?
Like, what is that?
The only reason people even give a shit about the Holocaust is because of that reaction and it's used as a shakedown tactic.
Yeah.
That's it.
I was telling someone, I'm like, I'm literally, you can't even express how more interested in the moon I am than the Holocaust.
It's like, did the Holocaust have?
Yeah, dude, that whole era was endless suffering.
And one of the whole reasons I think that Germany is damned to this day is they blame the sin of the Weimar Republic.
Like there were Jews selling pornos and all this stuff.
They blamed it on a blood and not behavior.
And that's why I want to do a t-shirt that says Hitler should have homesteaded it, where it's like, that's the ticket of wrath.
Whether or not it was six billion or nine gay guys who died in a rollerblading accident in 1970, it doesn't matter.
And this is my point that I know you agree with: is how can someone, how can a Jew like Ben Shapiro not want to honor the dead Jews by not starting another genocide over a false flag like the Syrian fake gas attack?
And that's why, you know, I always say I'm not a Holocaust denier.
I'm a Holocaust supplier at $6 billion.
The joke isn't, did people suffer?
The joke isn't, it's, it's, are we allowed to, like, it's not religion to me.
It's not, it's not sacrilegious to say, I don't know.
I mean, the Red Cross at Auschwitz was like 250,000.
That was 1.5 million.
It's like, what, who's right?
It's like, how dare you?
It's like, I think most of the Jews died in Russia.
You know, a lot of them were just shot in the back of the head and shell graves.
You know, like, if you look at actual, you know, the worst atrocities were happening in the satellite states and with Barbarossa, Stalingrad, all that shit, there were concentration camps.
There was a lot of death.
It isn't what they say.
And they're trying to use it to get 300 billion from Poland, who is also occupied by the Nazis.
It's become a point of like nonsense.
And it's like, that's why, that's why people care.
I don't care.
There's so much, so many movies and books and documentaries and wizardry and emotions and money tied with the Holocaust.
I want nothing to do with it.
I just, it's like, but there is this thing I call kissing the $6 million ring, where if people say the exact number, the media nods, where it's like, okay, like, that's why I say $6 billion, because my whole thing is I just won't say their exact number because that's clearly an act of submission.
It's like, say the nonsense.
Caitlin's a beautiful woman.
Caitlin's a beautiful woman.
It's like, no.
Did Jews die?
Obviously, like anytime you have that, that blood fever pitch in a population where they want revenge, they found out that the Ben Shapirus of World War I, you know, stabbed him in the back.
And then they're killing, you know, the Delhi guy or the Dave Smith family who just wanted to fucking complain about the Fed.
It's like, it's like, that's not a valid kill.
And it's in the Bible that you can't do that.
And so when you take that ticket, you look at Germany now.
Germany's one of the most cucked nations in the world now because they have all this shame and guilt and all this shit where because they should have just figured out a way to grow around it.
You know, a lot of these like industries of sin, they don't grow unless you buy from them.
And the problem I have is when it's when they market to children, it's called implied consent or manufactured consent.
When if someone's too young, that's why I'm, you know, the porn thing is very, it's very, it's a very weird topic because if seven-year-olds are watching porn, they're not old enough to make decisions and it does fuck with their heads.
And so like that type of shit I have a problem with.
What grownups choose to do is everything, but I'm always just trying to keep the children away from this stuff.
But I think that starts at home with a strong nuclear family.
That starts with a mother being able to be home.
It starts with, you know, a commitment to truth.
And from there, you just go.
And the Holocaust thing is like, it's such a, you have the perfect view of, I mean, what you just said is exactly right.
And if more people were like that, it wouldn't even be anything.
It would just be one of those things that people say they could learn from versus when you make it this taboo, this, we have the monopoly on victimhood.
I remember Ben Shapiru, when Notre Dame was burning, he started tweeting like, well, yeah, well, they shouldn't have attacked the Jews in year 450 or something.
It's like, dude, stop.
You're not the only victims in the world.
Well, right.
And you're talking about, and you're talking about people who died during World War II, which was the biggest mass murder campaign in human history.
I mean, it's like as if the Jews were the only ones who suffered in this.
You look at the holodomor.
Yeah, you look at some of these Jewish Bolsheviks in the holodomor, and you start, that's when people have to start making these bigger connections where it has to do with institutional state.
That's why you've made a lot of great connections, where it's not about the blood of who does it.
Because there's, you know, look at the, there's genocides in Africa all the time.
It's genocides, what the English did to the Irish.
That was a forced genocide.
They removed all the potatoes.
It's like, you look at what it is.
It's when human beings give up their autonomy because of the state or now the corporate state, which is what we're entering.
And that's the problem.
That's why it's really important to not be on anyone's tit because human beings become like NPCs where it's not even like they're acting in their own volition.
It's like some of those high-level Nazis, what they were doing wasn't even good for themselves.
They were like under a spell.
Yeah.
You know, same with the Bolsheviks.
It's like some of those, some of those people, they were under a spell.
That's why I'm like, I don't blame a demographic for evil because it's like, you know, and I see how that happens.
I've been under spells.
After 9-11, I wanted to go to Iraq and find Bin Laden for 25 years.
You know, it's like, I wanted someone to pay for that.
And so the farmer just guided me right into a pen and said, it's the Muslims.
Now sign away the Patriot Act.
And I was like, proud to be an American.
And so I learned from that.
And I was like, and I see that a little bit.
There's, there's twitches of it, the Jew stuff right now because, and it's only because the ADL, SPLC, and all those guys, because they're making everything illegal.
They're like, you can't say the number 12.
It's hate speech.
You can't, you know, a white family is hate speech.
But see, I am enlightened enough to know that that isn't Jews.
That's some Jews.
Yeah.
And that has to really, people have to really think about that.
Cause if you blame America's crimes on all America, none of us are looking too good right now because America killed a lot of fucking people.
Some of my friends have killed a lot of people.
And it's like, I don't want to do that to the, and I want to, you know, you don't want to put people in a corner where it's like, oh, Jews, because then they'll act all paranoid and get even more fucking, you know, wacky.
Yeah.
And it just, it just, it just doesn't lead to anything constructive.
And at best.
And at worst, it leads to you being on the side of some really evil shit and supporting like innocent people getting their rights violated and getting, you know, like fucked up by whatever group is in charge.
And again, like you said before, I mean, this stuff is like, yeah, if you wanted to paint a picture of Catholics who are horrible or Protestants who are horrible or any group, it's like I could fill a big long list of all of these really horrible war hawks who fit that group.
Now, by the way, I will grant it is disproportionately Jews and that's a little bit troubling to me.
But so I'm not saying there's nothing to it, but your principle still holds.
And the point you're making about how all these people get captured by these spells, I mean, look, you see the NPCs today.
It's like, man, if these people in comfortable 2019, almost 2020, America, wealth-wise, comfortable, you know, nobody's like struggling for food or anything like that.
It's like, if you, if, if they can be convinced to support, you know, child genital mutilation and gender reassignment surgery and all this shit, they could support just about anything that the fucking, the, the status quo is, is pushing them into.
And if you're hungry and like really not comfortable, you could easily see those same people supporting any type of like gruesome, horrific act against whoever the hated group at the time is.
It's people really are, it's like you were saying with the farmer analogy, it's it's creepy how easy it is to control people and push them into really evil directions.
Non-Aggression Principle00:14:42
Yeah.
And the irony about those people though is they're the goats.
They're not.
Yeah.
Killing anything is hard.
Like I slaughter my own chickens and stuff.
It's it's it's the thing.
It's like the thought of I've killed enough animals to eat that the thought of killing a person is truly pretty horrifying.
And so a lot of people don't know that.
They don't even have the stomach for it.
And so these LARPing people that are like, oh yeah, we got to fail.
It's like, no, you won't.
I think those are the people that are set up for disaster.
The ones that are just beating off in their basement, playing video games, complaining, like blaming everything on fill in the demographic.
They're incapable of, they're not even strong enough to be evil.
They're just like mold.
And that's why I'm trying to snap them out of that because they're capable of, they're humans.
They can block.
They can be fine.
It's just, they're under a spell and everybody's savable.
It's just like, it's literally like sleeping beauty.
The apple, whether it's in the garden, whether it's in the iPhone, whether or not it's Newton, whether or not it's the Beatles, Apple productions, it was called Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple.
You know, the Apple puts you to sleep.
That sounds a little trippy, I know, but it's like, there's a lot of spells based around the Apple.
And so like people are under the spell.
Like, what was the first thing on an iPhone?
It was the Nassau's Globe Blue Marble.
And it's called Apple.
It's a bitten apple by Steve Job.
And people are like, you, sir, you're connecting Doctor.
I'm like, his name is Steve Job.
He died from a long battle with a disease.
His symbol is a bitten apple.
NASA's wizardry is the thing.
They've admitted that isn't even a real picture.
It was made by a graphic designer.
The apple, and people are just like, you sure.
And I'm just like, whatever, man.
I'll be okay.
Dave and his family are welcome at my place.
I get 50 eggs a day.
Oh, by the way, my wife, Lauren, has like serious farm envy.
She'd always like watch your video and be like, isn't that so great the way Amy and Owen are on the farm with their kids?
And I'm like, I'm going to get you a farm.
Just let me keep working a little bit.
Okay.
I'm going to get you a farm.
I would ban her.
I would be like, you're suspended from Owen videos for a week.
Okay.
You have to take a week off.
Stop bitching at me about a farm.
All right.
Let me get my shit together.
I'll make sure I make a video of me shoveling shit just so it brings her back to earth.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
Show like the real like unglamorous part of unglamorous.
Is that a word?
The not glamorous part of it.
Yeah, 4.30 in the morning.
I have five roosters, which is basically just like a boy band.
I'll just show a video at like 4.30 in the morning, which is, wake up.
I call one of them Red Pill Rooster because instead of howling at the sun, he howls at the moon.
All right.
Now, let me ask you something else because I wanted to ask you this because I think some of my listeners would be angry if I don't bring this up because I got a ton of comments from people when you made your video on the non-aggression principle being evil.
And a bunch of people were like, Dave, you got to talk to Owen about this.
So I want to convince you.
I want to bring you back on board with the non-aggression principle.
So take me through because I saw this video.
I think it was a while back, but a bunch of people were just posting it recently because there's like a bunch of YouTube channels that are like bears that post your stuff that was older videos, but then they post it and people are like, oh, he just put this out.
But I'm like, I think this was actually from a while ago.
Cottage industry.
That's right.
Now, so what was your beef with the non-aggression principle, which I hold very dear?
I think the non-aggression principle requires people to be moral.
I think that it leaves open Achilles' heels.
Like I set up one example and I started going crazy because I've always thought that non-aggression principle was the way around a lot of evil.
And I think that if people don't have God-given morality, I gave one example where it was what would stop child sex trafficking where you have a 12-year-old and you have an old man and he sells the 12-year-old who's willing.
You know, the 12-year-old collects money and the old man gets a percentage of the money to another man for a blowjob.
And there's no breaking of consent.
And so people would say, yeah, but they're not adults.
I say, so when's adult?
And they say, well, 18.
I go, why?
Why 16?
Why 14?
Brains don't stop developing until 25.
And I see the non-aggression principle, like communism is almost like the evil version where it's like, I think non-aggression principle is almost like a utopia for people that assume that the world isn't full.
I don't think it accounts for material evil, where it's like someone that wants to sell a 12-year-old.
In fact, I think most ANCAPs are good guys because I don't think that, you know, I think a lot of my life, I didn't spend enough time thinking about how evil people think.
Where if you have a world where there is no ability to make a law to stop commerce, how do you stop a 12-year-old from being sold into sex slavery if he's consenting and takes a piece of the money?
And I, and I, the reason I got so like frazzled is because no one could tell me how to stop it in that.
And I'm just an emotional guy.
So I was just like, what the fuck?
Someone please tell me how to stop selling the 12-year-old.
You know, and so I'm not mad at non-aggression people.
I was mad at the fact that I found a loophole to something that I thought was economically so viable.
You know, people presented that to Malinu and I think he was like, well, they're not adults and kind of swept it away.
And I was a little pissed at that because I was like, he knows better.
Like, tell me the logical reason what makes someone an adult, you know?
And the state gives out arbitrary numbers.
16, you drive, 18, you die for the country.
21, you can drink rotten potatoes.
It's completely arbitrary.
It makes no sense.
So it's like, what is the legal age where someone can be sold for?
Because like, there's a much different argument for adult prostitution than there is child.
And my whole thing was, how do you differentiate a child from an adult?
And I, so if you want to answer that, I'd be all right.
Sure.
So here would be my, my, my response more or less would be that I think, first off, I'd say I think you're right in essence about what you said at the very beginning, which is that you need to have a moral society.
And this is, and the truth is, whether you have a state or you don't have a state, no matter what system you have, if you don't have a moral society, you're going to be really fucking screwed.
And if you have a society where people accept pedophilia, you're going to be in a lot of trouble no matter what the system is.
And I would agree with you, as I've come to believe in life, that this is going to have to be something that is based in God and based in religion.
And I know there's like you could technically make an argument that you don't need that.
Like technically, you could on paper make an argument that like, well, you could just have really moral people who are atheists.
The problem is that in reality, with the human condition, we're made to worship.
And I've just been convinced of this more and more.
And that deep-rooted human wiring to worship is in just about every, maybe there's one person out there who's like the really moral atheist who does it, but every atheist I've ever seen ends up worshiping something else.
You go from worshiping fucking, if it's not God, you end up worshiping the state.
If it's not the state, it's like this social justice religion.
If it's not, it's something.
It's all, yeah, it's always something.
And so I do think that it's probably true that you would need some type, something that grounds people in a moral understanding.
And you are right that it is arbitrary.
It is arbitrary when we decide that kids are adults.
And that is always going to be arbitrary again, whether you have a state or whether you don't.
Really, the answer, which I understand could be somewhat unsatisfactory, is that to me, that's an act of aggression.
I mean, in the same sense that, look, you may not like the idea of like promiscuous sex outside of marriage, okay?
But no one would really say, I don't think anyone would say that in act, that having sex with a 30-year-old single woman is rape if she consented to it.
It's like, well, no, it might be immoral.
It might be bad for society.
It might be a lot of other things, but it's not rape.
But having sex with an eight-year-old is rape.
Like, that's fucking rape because she can't.
Well, listen, it's just, it's an arbitrary, it's an arbitrary line that you have to draw on the road.
And yes, whether it should be 16 or 17 or 18 or 25 or 14, you know, whatever you say, it is somewhat arbitrary.
And that, again, is true no matter what system you have in place.
If you have a state, they're going to arbitrarily pick that.
And if you don't have a state, it's going to arbitrarily get picked.
The truth is that you need to have a moral enough society that draws a line somewhere reasonably in the sand and says, if you fuck an eight-year-old, someone's going to shoot you in the goddamn face.
And that, and it doesn't have to be a state who does that.
But that more or less is my argument that everything, every principle is, is like nothing is purely absolute.
So what is an act of aggression?
Like, you know, I mean, okay, if somebody is like, like trespasses onto your land, I'd consider that an act of aggression.
But if they trip on a road and fall into your property and you ask them to leave, it's like, yeah, that was, that was kind of a gray area, not really.
It's always a little bit arbitrary.
And so to me, I get what you're saying, but the principle that, so let's just say this, even under the, like under a status paradigm where you do have a state, like we live in now or any state.
If you were to say adults should be allowed to drive and children shouldn't, I think that's a reasonable claim to make.
Now, it is somewhat arbitrary where you draw that line, but we can reasonably determine that drawing the line at eight would be ridiculous and drawing the line at 50 would also be ridiculous.
And then we're down to a situation where we have to come to some kind of reasonable decision of when it's okay to drive.
And I think that's true in an anarchist society, in a status society.
So I agree with you that there is to some degree, it's like the non-aggression principle, there are these gray areas in there that you have to work out.
And I do agree more or less that you need a moral society to determine some type of moral rule for that.
And that's probably, you're probably going to want a society.
And when you don't have a state, you don't have a welfare state, what ends up naturally happening with human beings is they come together, they come together in groups, usually churches, but also can be communities and families and all of these different things.
And a group of people decide what they think is reasonable.
So that would more or less be my response.
Yeah, I think what I've come to, I'm obviously less fired up about it now than I was that day because I was like, is that no ism or is can govern morality.
And so I think when you, you know, pump the brakes a little on what non-aggression is, it's not infuriating because it's like, like under communism, it's impossible to be moral.
Whereas under anarcho-capitalism, it is possible to be moral.
So that makes it inherently better.
But at the same time, it isn't, there is no ism because I can think up scenarios for everything I can think of.
Sure.
And so I think, but I just, I was pushing back at the, that the non-aggression principle can be a basis of morality because like take Ben Shapiro.
He could say that my views on making fun of the Holocaust is an act of aggression and he should take my freedom for that.
Because, you know, that type of upside down logic can be where it's like, that's a ground.
You're, you know, you're just pissing on the memories of it's causing trauma.
I've survived it.
I watched a Spielberg movie.
You know, you're, I got it.
And they, they do that shit.
They'll say that.
Oh, they do.
Yeah, they do.
Like, I used to, I would have been more, like, when you say come to reasonable conclusions, I, that would have made more sense to me before 2019, where I see so many people acting in a way where I'm like, this is our reasonable, you know, it's this, you know, you'll just see like children, like Tranny Hour in a public library where someone's dressed as a demon and their dick's hanging out of their pants and there's a bunch of five-year-olds with parents.
I'm like, this is reasonable.
And so I agree with you on that.
I'd rather live in a world where human beings can congregate and come up with their own morality and it isn't imposed by a state.
Rather, it's the Anglican church disguised as a state.
You know, I'm not saying that just because something has Christian label, the Christian title on it, it's more moral than a state because look at Henry VIII.
Look at, you know, I get, I completely understand non-aggression principle being better than tyranny, but at the same time, I'm now witnessing people using this ultimate freedom argument to create tyranny where they're like.
Oh, yeah, you know, you're absolutely right.
No, but listen, let me just say, you're absolutely right about that, but there's a reason for that.
It's like they drape every inch of evil in the language of Christianity and liberty.
That's why these fucking, these, these courts where they'll throw, you know, whoever, they'll throw Julian Assange in jail whenever they fucking get their chance to try him.
They'll throw him in jail for life for exposing war crimes.
There'll be some in God we trust written at the top of that court.
You know, like they'll use, and there's a reason, and the language of liberty, I mean, they called the Iraq war Operation Iraqi freedom as they're dropping bombs on human beings.
Like here, freedom.
You know, they call the income tax voluntary compliance.
There is no limit to how much they will abuse language.
And they do this to play on people's decency and morality.
And to, so you're 100% right about that.
And the truth is that, look, you're going what you want.
You know, it's like, I just think that it takes the reason why the transgender propaganda is so strong.
And the reason why, as you, as you know, just about as much as anybody else in the world, while they will come after you so ferociously for saying something like, you know, hey, I don't think we should be, you know, pushing hormone blockers and surgery on children and confusing them.
Yeah.
You know, like just for pushing it.
They come at you so hard because that's what's necessary in order to push this propaganda on people.
It's not something people do not naturally believe this.
And to me, that's where like what one of the benefits of a common law society is that you're going to have something where it's not, it's not what's written in statutes or codified by some authoritarian, you know, ruling body that can enforce their will on people no matter what they want.
It's something that you have to, you know, have people.
Constant Self-Hatred00:11:51
And look, the truth is, if we don't have a moral society, we're screwed either way, man.
And that's, and the problems you're addressing right now are very real.
I mean, I'm not like pretending they're not.
The problem is that what's considered normal and reasonable to a lot of people is batshit insane and upside down.
But the truth is like, look, man, I mean, we have the biggest state that's ever existed right now.
And look what they did when they found this fucking, this Jeffrey Epstein motherfucker.
I mean, forget all the conspiracy stuff aside, which I believe all of it wholeheartedly.
But even leaving that aside, I mean, they fucking, what is official story, what even the corporate press will tell you is that they had this guy for raping children and orders came from intelligence to go easy on him and let him go back to continue to raping children.
Like that's the system we have now.
So it's not, you know, whether the non-aggression principle is being respected or not, I mean, this, this evil is something that has to be, you know, confronted in one way or the other.
Yeah, I agree with you, man.
And I think a lot of it, it stems from home and it stems from your decisions in life.
You know, a man is a slave to his appetites.
And a king is a slave if he has appetites.
Like a man with no appetites is free.
And so regardless of what this, you know, we shouldn't look to the state to be our father.
That's why they're trying to destroy God is because it's like the state isn't dad, you know?
And so if we, I don't, just because I was spiraling about the non-aggression principle doesn't mean I want the state to mop up the mess because it's a sociopathic entity.
And I realize that.
But my point was sometimes I see these like narratives in the libertarian community where it's about how like free market will decide everything.
Well, that's a fantasy because of the Federal Reserve.
There is no free market.
They can, they can click buttons and give a trillion dollars to their friend and put my, like MySpace was doing great.
And they can just invent money and be like, oh, no, now it's Facebook because it's operated by DARPA.
It's by Tom.
And people are like, oh, free markets.
Like, where?
You know?
And so that's why, ironically, I operate a lot more as a libertarian than a lot of libertarians because I don't think a lot of them, I'm not knocking or whatever.
I'm just, it's so, it's on your shoulders.
Like your freedom depends on your commitment to morality and your commitment to like the reason that, you know, there was never issues with guns.
Like they used to bring, like little kids would bring guns to school for most of like America's history because they were, they were such a moral society where it was like the thought of a kid going to school and just like shooting people is like insane.
And so like the commitment to God is what gets people and all got, and for the people, and trust me, I was raised Catholic, I have twinges of like, ah, fuck those guys, because that's about power and nonsense.
There's a lot of great Catholics, but I understand that revulsion to religion, but a best way to understand God is it's what is true.
And a lot of people don't understand that like just commitment to truth means you're committed to God and you don't even know it because most people that aren't that if you truly don't believe in God or truth, you would just say and do anything to get money and sex and kill people and shit.
It's just like, I, you know, people can say that there's these moral atheists, but I think they're, they're, they just don't know that they're committed to truth because true atheism is a hatred.
It's like almost like you want to make the world upside down, like what you were just talking about, like voluntary compliance and all that shit.
It's trying to make that which is good and make it bad and that which is mad and make bad and make it good.
Like marriage is slavery, abortion is freedom, you know, all this shit.
That isn't a lack of belief in God.
That's a hatred of truth.
Because if you simply just say what is, it becomes very obvious that this isn't the result of endless chaos.
You know, what came first, the chicken or the egg?
The answer is God.
That was an old riddle that no one tells you the answer.
And it's like, because before an egg, there was a chicken.
Before a chicken, there was, it's like, what?
That's the answer to that.
And when you see what it is, and when you see all this constant propaganda to keep people in the material, you know, like I say we didn't go to the moon.
I get kicked off everything.
Joe Rogan says the universe is like a bubble in Duncan Trussell's asshole.
And everyone's like, that's so beautiful.
He's such a free thinker.
He's just like, man, you know, the universe is just like right in your asshole, Duncan.
And he's like, I know, man.
And everyone's like, free thinking.
And I'm like, I don't think there's nuclear bombs.
And everyone's like, get rid of them.
Right.
I think I might be right.
Well, it is like.
It's almost like the gender thing that it doesn't matter if you say there's three genders or a thousand.
You know, if you identify as a sneaker, the only thing that they can't have is two because that's the right answer.
Right.
So if you say the right answer, that there's male and female, you're the devil, but any other answer is fine because any other answer means it isn't two, which means you've committed to nonsense.
7 million Jews may have died.
2 million.
I don't know.
But the commitment to a number means you've committed to not investigate and not and just recite what they want.
It's all Tavistock.
It's all MK Ultra shit.
And for people to think I'm just like, that's what my dad has his PhD in.
Like I was raised knowing what mass calm, another one of these upside down things, mass communication.
Yeah, Goebbels was good at mass communication.
It's like, it's like to keep people in a constant state of self-hatred, material, fear.
You know, it keeps you in your root chakra, which is just, you know, base.
You know, I want to, because like what you're talking about with people saying, how can God exist with all this pain?
And the entity that tries to relieve your pain is the devil, which gives you the most pain.
Like the devil says, I will, I will relieve your pain.
You can have whatever you want.
You know, like the Jimmy Fallon-Faustian deal.
You will be known, Jimmy Fallon.
I just want to know your name, but no, you are a retard.
What's that?
What?
What?
No, it's the Faustian deal.
It's like, I just want to be like, Johnny Carson, you will be like Johnny Carson.
Except a homo.
What's that?
You know, it's like, it's the Faustian trick where it's like, you get a Ferrari with no gas.
You get unlimited life, but a life prison sentence.
You get all the books in the world.
Your glasses break.
Like these used to be stories told to kids so that they watch out for it.
And now people are like, look at me.
I'm an internet star.
It's just like, dude, and the thing, like, as we touched on before, and it's true with the school shooting and it's school shootings, and it's true with this dynamic of keeping your feet on the ground, is what it all comes back to, man, is the family unit.
And once you have a family, you start to realize how important that is.
And how it's just like, this is, it's so obvious.
Like, once you have a family, it becomes so obvious that nobody can convince you otherwise.
This is why so many of the people who are just completely off their rocker are people who are childless and don't have families.
And it's just like, you just don't understand.
That is the grounding for everything.
We're made to be raised by a mother and a father.
And if you're not, it throws everything out of whack.
And that, that's why, you know, you have a society of people who don't have meaning, don't have purpose, don't have family structures, don't have anything that binds them together.
And people get very isolated and very crazy.
It's the same reason you have school shooters, it's the same reason you have Antifa.
I mean, it might be, you know, they're different manifestations of the same problem, but it's these kids who have nothing.
They're like completely lost and isolated.
And in a way, even the school shooter, even the worst ones, you have to kind of feel bad for them.
It's just, it's such a dark, sad place to be in.
And of course, they bring a lot of evil onto other people and they should probably be put down.
But it's like, it is just so, so dark.
And that's why one of my favorite things that you do, and it's one of the things that I've always really admired, even before I had a family, I was always just really moved by you talking about your experience of having a family, becoming a husband and a father.
And as somebody who is like, I feel the same sense of, I think, obligation that you do.
It's almost as if, like, if you, if you like, found this restaurant that just had the best food you've ever had in your life and it was like really reasonably priced and it's just the best time and the staff's really great.
And then you saw, you know, there was like a group of people outside and they were like, hey, we're hungry.
Do you know a good place around here?
You just kind of feel like, well, I should probably tell them about this restaurant.
That's amazing.
You know, it's like if you have a family and you're like, guys, I've been on the other side of this.
I know what it's like to fucking just be trying to get laid and get high and have fun and all this.
I know that.
I'm telling you, that's not where it's at.
You really want to go try this place over here that gives you purpose and meaning.
Like it's just way better.
So give it a shot.
Yeah.
And that's why I think my message is so lethal and why they keep censoring it is because I'm not one of these like goody two-shoe types.
I'm like, dude, I used to have so many windows open of porn that I used to call it the situation room.
I'm like, I've been there, dude.
And I'm telling you, when they say it may like whacking off makes you go blind, it's not literal, but there's something there where I think there is like, if you just take a, I tell that to trolls sometimes.
I'm like, if you've whacked off to runaways on drugs on the internet in the last month, you can't criticize me.
I'm like, give it 30 days and then you can tell me about the moon.
And it's true.
You know, we're talking about this before.
It was like, before I had kids, I didn't really care because it was, I don't really know my worth.
I'm like, all right, I'm a pretty good guy, but I get hammered and walk down the highway in Vegas, like, look at the sky.
But now that I have kids, I'm like, I've known them since they were born and they're good.
And, you know, I'm planting trees that I'll probably never be able to enjoy the shade of.
You know, it's that, that's the metaphor where it's like, you know, before it would be like, well, if I, if I talk about this stuff, people get mad at me and then they don't buy me drinks.
So who cares?
I wasn't a liar.
I was just like, I'm fucking, this seems to bother, bum people out.
I don't want to get involved in that.
And then now I'm like, if people don't start talking about this, like, my kids are going to be in a world that's insane.
You know, it's like, I'll take, I'll take bullets now for them later.
And when people want to shame me for that, I'm like, your shame isn't one billionth of a giggle from my baby.
Like, beat, get out of my saloon.
Yeah, well, it also, it also cures up a lot of that stuff, like where, you know, when you were talking about like the people who want to be internet stars and they want this, like, you know, look, everybody has some degree of wanting, if you do something, you know, if you, if you write a joke or, or you do a video or you do something that you think is like really good and someone goes, hey, that was really great.
People like that.
It's like, oh, you like recognition and things like that.
But there's something about this kind of ego that we all have that you have to grapple with when you have a little kid who looks at you as their hero.
When you have a wife who looks at you as your, as their, as her hero, and you're like in this situation, it's like you kind of get that out of your system in a more profound way than anyone else can ever give to you.
And then you're like, yeah, yeah, I don't really need your adoration because like I have my family's adoration and like that's more than this could ever be.
So now I can just be a regular human being and have some integrity.
Like I don't need to sell out for whatever like like notoriety.
It's like I get that from my family.
There's something to that.
Totally.
And it also increases the God connection because you get filled with so much gratitude.
You just don't even know who to say thanks to.
So you just go, thank you.
Like that's it.
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It's like that's stupid.
I don't even go to church because I think most of them are converged.
But like what you were just saying is so true.
It's like, I have so much love and respect for my family that like I'm not searching for it like I used to.
And because I used to have more of an ego where I would enjoy, you know, the roar of a crowd or the attention from a woman or money because it would give me some sort of freedom.
But now I'm like, it just, it, it, and I'm not doing the holyer than thou shit with people that are still in that zone because that's not evil.
It's just there's an emptiness to it.
Evil is saying, you know, voluntary, whatever that IRS thing was.
Like that's, that's, that's wizardry.
But like what me and you have experienced is just empty, which isn't filled with evil.
It just isn't good.
And once you experience more good and love, it's like you just never want to go back.
I remember someone was asking me to do something a little intense.
I was like, I can't do that, man.
I'm not allowed to die.
Yeah.
Like people need me now, you know?
No, well, that's, that's absolutely right.
It's like this, it's in a weird way, you become a lot more afraid of something happening to you because it's not just like, oh, I'll be fucked over then.
That's kind of whatever.
But it's like, I have a duty here.
Like I have, I have people who I have to provide for, who I have to protect.
Like that's, which is way more important than any of this stuff.
All right.
So I want to, I want to talk about unauthorized dot TV.
So, and just because we didn't even really get too deep into it, but before even that, what happened with your YouTube channel?
Because I saw you put out a video recently where you were like, I've got an inside tip from someone who works at YouTube that my whole channel is going to be taken down.
And then it was.
So that tip turned out to be good.
Did they tell you what it was that you had done?
Or was it just like one of these fucking you're gone overnight things?
No, I was just like, you went against terms of service.
Yeah.
It's just total nonsense, but I don't care.
They just revealed themselves.
It's almost like it's just like fighting.
It's like sometimes if you throw the wrong punch, your chin is just like right there.
And I'm just like, pop.
Yeah.
You know, I think it was one of the weakest moves.
And I even made a video being like, YouTube, don't do this, like for your sake.
Like Ben Shapiro is going to be up here pitching gold sheets and war.
And you're going to take away a guy that has 300,000 subscribers who actively has helped people kick heroin.
Like that's going to permeate.
And like, I'm like, just stop acting paranoid.
And they still pulled the plug.
And so now I'm at DLive.tv slash Owen Benjamin Comedy and then unauthorized.tv and those apps are on Roku as well as the Android store.
And what else do people get on unauthorized.tv?
Like, is it obviously David the Good is a gardener.
He's awesome.
Vox Day.
You have Wrangler Star who's got like one and a half million subscribers on YouTube, but he sees it.
He does homesteading in Oregon.
You have the legend Chuck Dixon who created the character Bane.
You know, he's a comic book guy.
You have my last special.
I just did a new special called You're Doing Great Kid.
That's there for subscribers.
And then we have another documentary coming out called You're Doing Great Kid that will be there.
And it's just people really love this site because, oh, there's also a woman who does.
Oh, how dare me?
What happened to you, bro?
A history professor who does middle-aged stuff because it's not a political site.
That's why it's called unauthorized.
It's just anybody that won't be authorized, you know?
And it's like it's just for people that the beast doesn't seem to allow to do commerce on PayPal, for example.
And so it's, that's what I love about it.
It's kind of, and we also had this one dude, this one French guy who like describes how to survive urban apocalypses and stuff.
A lot of it has to do with, you know, David the Good has like nine kids.
It's all about gardening and family and it's just good vibes, you know?
And we're, we were doing some movies.
Vox and myself are writing a movie called We Didn't Go to the Moon, where I play the head of NASA.
And I just, I have a drinking problem and I just start telling everybody we never went to the moon.
And then I borrow rocket shit from Pakistan.
It's there's some funny aspects.
But yeah, life is great, man.
D-Live, the beauty of the Bears is a lot of them are doing such funny stuff.
You know, like out of nowhere, a new bear will pop up with a song or a video that's so funny.
Like Mountain Bear.
I don't know if I've sent you any of those cartoons that it'll like put my audio over South Park and he's doing his own.
Yeah, but now he's even doing his own animation.
And it's like people are growing out of this community because it's a community where I'm not envious of their talent.
Like if they have talent, I'm like, everybody, check this out.
And in this world of like this female tyranny of envy and ankle biting and oh, he's talented.
Make sure no one sees him.
Tell everybody that she has herpes.
She's pretty, you know, it's like a community where great is pulled up and ankle biters and all these like trolls are just kicked out.
People are just thriving in it.
You know, people are having families.
It's like, you know, there's a lot of babies being named Owen right now.
Don't get me wrong.
There probably was a lot of Adolphs back in the day, too.
So they changed that.
I'm just kidding.
I think there were.
There were.
Yeah, no, like that whole name just got nuked.
Yeah, but Joseph stuck around.
Nobody cares about that one.
You could still name your kid Joe.
Yeah.
Tells you something.
Yeah, but see, Stalin was less, he has less Netflix specials than Adolpho Hilario, though.
Yeah, he does.
But he made him count.
Hitler has like more Netflix specials than like Chappelle every year.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, it's just.
That's the whole thing.
That's the programming for Jews.
It's they have to make Jews feel hated to keep them like, you know, like, oh, everyone's coming at us.
It's fucking crazy.
No, that's true.
You have the healthiest Holocaust view I've ever, I think I know of anybody.
Because I know some Jews that like are like rebel against it for, you know, they're like, it didn't happen.
And then there's other Jews that are like, I can't get out of bed.
They're going to turn me into soap.
It's it's just a tragedy.
And it's like, you know, that whole era was full of so much suffering and bad decisions.
And we can learn from it.
It's not this like, it's not this like event to control people with like Ben Shapiro uses.
It's like, well, it's something that we should learn from and not repeat that stuff.
But there's so many tragedies in human history like that.
No, but it is, it is the event that is, it is used. as the foundation for everything about the modern American empire and the Israeli state.
So every inch of the global empire is built on the Holocaust narrative.
And that's why it's the ultimate third rail that you're never allowed to criticize.
You have to believe that six million people die.
You can't criticize any of it because if you do, then, you know, Ben Shapiro's whole justification falls apart.
Then everybody, the idea of why we have to be this world empire completely falls apart.
And then the truth is, of course, if you put it even in perspective and you just realize that you're like, oh, okay, well, even if millions of Jews did die there, millions of people have died from the American empire and all the evil that that's brought.
Millions of people have been displaced from the state of Israel.
Then you go like, oh, well, it's not really justified by this origin story.
So you can look at it in like a more nuanced way.
But the same thing to me, like the point you made about like the blood silliness before, it's like, it was so much of like what just the same, one of the base reasons, and I think this is like what you were saying before, like about, I think it's related to being like a great comedian and stuff like that, is that if somebody goes to you and they go, well, six million people died and you're not allowed to question that or look into it.
Your instinct is just like, no.
So now I'm going to question it then.
Like if I'm, if you're telling me I'm not allowed to with no justification, sorry.
Like you don't control my mind.
And that's the whole essence of being a free thinker is that you don't control my mind.
I control my mind.
And in the same sense, it's like you're not going to allow somebody to just, you know, be like, no, okay, I get to set the terms here.
I get to set the boundaries and you don't get to ask anything about it or push against it.
It's like, that's just, that's bullshit.
And I'm not going to agree with that.
And then when you do start pushing it, it takes you into some weird places where you're kind of like, oh, no, it looks like you were hiding something.
And that's kind of where you wanted to push me.
Now, the hiding something might not be that.
Anyway, the thing that on that note, the thing on the left, when the rise of identity politics really rose up and, you know, it was always there, like you said.
But even if you go back to 2012, 2013, it wasn't so obvious on the surface.
It rose up.
But I was just like, yeah, I'm done talking to a lot of these hardcore social justice people because I'm never going to talk to someone because they view me as a white man.
So they're right away like you have to constantly be like, if you make a good argument, they'd be like, yeah, but that's just your privilege as a white person.
After a while, you're like, man, go fuck you.
I'm not going to constantly be apologizing.
And there's a lot of people on the other side on the alt-right side who it's like, no matter what position I were to take, I could agree with them, disagree with them.
I could be a socialist, a libertarian, a neocon, a fascist, anything in between.
And if I was a communist, they'd be like, that's the Jew subverting us.
If I'm a libertarian, that's the Jew subverting us.
If I'm a fascist, that's the Jew joining us in order to subvert us.
And you're like, how about go fuck yourself then?
Like, I don't really care.
I don't need you as a fan.
Like that, I'm fine with that.
Like, it's like, whatever.
To those of you who are like, oh, he made a good point.
I'll take you.
To those of you who are like, oh, it must be his Jew blood.
It's like, go fuck yourself.
I don't care.
Yeah, the Jew blood thing is psychotic.
It's just, it's like, I always attack Talmudic reasoning is a better way to phrase it, where it's like, the endless search for the loophole is what I have a problem with.
And it's clear, these are people, none of us know anything about blood or DNA, but yet they're jumping on it just to prove their point.
It's so stupid.
The funny thing is, when you were just describing the social justice warrior white stuff, that's so foreign to me.
Like, as you were saying that, I'm like, I can't even imagine being in the company of someone like that these days.
It's been so long that someone's been like, oh, well, you're just a white man.
Like, I can't even envision what my response would be.
I would just probably start laughing.
I always like when people talk like that, I usually assume they're going to like die soon.
Like, it just is so stupid.
It's like, yeah, well, that's because of that.
No, no, no, no.
White, granted, white is a, it's, it's all, even just the concept of white is subversion on itself.
That's a whole other conversation.
But, like, white males in America are by far, without question, the people with the least amount of privileges there is.
Like, there's no even argument about that.
It's like college, uh, jobs, uh, the media, any shooting, anything.
Like, white people are just constantly, but that doesn't make you a victim.
That's just crazy people being crazy.
That's why I don't even engage in it.
Because the problem is these alt retards will just be like, what people are so oppressed.
We have to strengthen our identity as white.
I'm like, you don't even have a family.
Like, what are you bitching about?
You're people are defining themselves as a reaction to insane people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
CWs are insane.
You know, when they say, like, you have all these white privileges, don't then just be like, fuck you.
My main thing about me is being white.
It's like, you're, that's two wings of the, of an insane bird.
It's just like, and they're, and, and, no, you're absolutely right.
And understand also, for like, you're absolutely right.
These social justice warriors are insane people.
They're really like, like, legitimately insane.
I'm not even saying that hyperbolically.
I'm saying like have mental illnesses.
Like they're, they're crazy people.
And they're also useful idiots who are fucking pawns for people who sit above them and want to pit people against each other.
And so if you just then start battling against them and do nothing else, you're just feeding right into the game.
You're a pawn too.
Because the whole idea is that in order to rule people, you have to divide them.
If people are united around like a common set of principles and a common morality, then they're going to be next to impossible to rule over.
So that's why, you know what I mean?
They want to pit everyone against each other on racial lines or whatever other gender lines or all this shit.
It's all fucking retarded and don't be a part of it.
Well, that's why they kicked me off YouTube.
It's like, ever since I got demonetized and everything, I've been just reading letters I get from my P.O. box and the ranges in age, race, everything.
It's like I'll have letters from like an inner city Bronx school.
It's like, I play my students your videos and they, you're like one of the only white people they trust.
And that'd be like an old person, like a vet, a 15-year-old in Canada.
Like, and I think the powers that be were like, oh, fuck, you know, because I wasn't like, it's, I wasn't taking part in their, you know, cattle.
What's it called?
How they just are trying to domesticate us.
They're human farmers.
They're just saying, okay, these people go on this farm.
And then they're trying to keep you always battling so that they can just keep control of you.
And I didn't offer up the wrath that they require where it's like, we have to go after the Jew or the black or the, you know, all the whites that are cooked or, you know, all this stuff where it's like, I wasn't playing their game at all.
And so they just deleted me.
And that was a mistake for them because it's like, it's becoming, it's becoming more and more obvious to people that, you know, it's all about family, that the whole like cubicle wage slave, you know, that feminine feminism says that to be, to honor your husband and work for your husband at home is slavery, but to work in a cubicle for someone who hates you and may rape you is freedom.
And the more people are seeing that and 30, 40 year old women with Sarah McLaughlin cats and two abortions that have to be on all these pills to get through their day and the anger and wrath.
You know, some of these SJWs are used for idiots, but some of them are also just the result of these Ponzi schemes where the endless college debt, the endless shit.
And then they're just here.
You know, a lot of these people were molested as kids.
That's why the prisons, if you go in, if you're a child rapist and you go to prison, it's kill on site.
Because the amount of violent criminals that were raped as kids is almost 100%.
And so these monsters will use children, use women, use men, use all these people.
And then the result is just these like women wearing these pink demon hats, screaming about abortion.
And it's just like normal women are starting to be like, no, I want what Amy has, like what your wife is talking about.
It's like, I want chickens, nigga.
You said it just like she does.
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Shit, dude, listen, we're fucking overtime like we always end up going.
And they got another show coming in.
So we got to wrap.
But dude, I just always love talking to you, man.
We have the most interesting podcast together.
And I love you, brother.
I love everything you're doing.
Go support Owen Benjamin.
I know you're the one, like you said earlier in the show, you're the one guy that getting deplatformed and kicked off of things always just makes you stronger.
And I know this one will as well.
It's the Jew in me.
It's the Jew in me.
It is.
That's right.
I know it is.
Owen Benjamin, everybody.
It's been too long.
We got to do another one sooner.
Awesome, man.
Great hang.
All right.
Talk to you soon, brother.
Thanks, everybody, for listening.
We'll be back on Wednesday with a brand new episode.