Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - Ryan Dawson
Aired: 2019-11-28
Duration: 01:37:25


=== Roll Back The State (08:54) ===

[00:00:02]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:00:04]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:00:06]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:00:09]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:00:15]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:00:20]  You're listening to part of the problem on the gas digital network.
[00:00:24]  Here's your host, James Smith.
[00:00:27]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:29]  What's up?
[00:00:29]  Happy almost Thanksgiving.
[00:00:31]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:00:34]  You might be listening to this on Thanksgiving or after Thanksgiving, in which case I hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
[00:00:38]  I have a great show for us tonight.
[00:00:41]  My guest is somebody who has been requested by a lot of our listeners, so I'm very excited to have him in.
[00:00:47]  Super smart guy, super interesting guy who does a ton of research and has a ton of information in his brain that he's going to share with our audience.
[00:00:56]  It is, of course, Ryan Dawson.
[00:00:58]  How are you, sir?
[00:01:00]  Howdy.
[00:01:01]  Good intro there.
[00:01:01]  I liked everything that was said there.
[00:01:03]  It reminds me for this cheap plug of this book I wrote called The Separation of Business and State.
[00:01:08]  Everything, all our problems are from too much government.
[00:01:11]  That's basically what that book goes over.
[00:01:13]  Well, you are certainly preaching to the choir on that one.
[00:01:16]  And of course, you have a show that you've had for a long time.
[00:01:19]  It's the, what is it, the anti-neocon report?
[00:01:23]  Yeah, the anti-neocon report.
[00:01:25]  Some people just say ANC for short.
[00:01:27]  Very good.
[00:01:28]  It doesn't get confused with the African National Congress too often.
[00:01:32]  Well, anti-neocon report, separation of business and state both sound pretty damn good to me because really, isn't that that pretty much sums up all our problems, right?
[00:01:42]  That's pretty much what's responsible for everything evil, the merger of business and the state and the goddamn neocons.
[00:01:48]  Yeah, I say it's the state sky has a reverse Midas touch.
[00:01:53]  And then I say a lot of things about neocons.
[00:01:55]  I don't know what all I'm allowed to say on this or not.
[00:01:58]  None of it's good that way.
[00:02:00]  You can say whatever you want to about about the neocons.
[00:02:04]  I mean, I'm wearing this today.
[00:02:06]  End all aid to Israel.
[00:02:08]  I'm with you on that one as well.
[00:02:09]  Absolutely.
[00:02:10]  I'm all end all aid to anyone, really.
[00:02:14]  Because aid gets used sometimes as a weapon and sometimes as a boon, like with Israel, it's basically guaranteed loans and it's an apartheid state where they shoot children in the balls and annex land and build us houses.
[00:02:25]  But other times, aid isn't really given.
[00:02:27]  It's loaned as predatory loans to drive nations into inflating their currencies and so on.
[00:02:33]  So you know all that anyway, but yeah, I'm with the get rid of the aid.
[00:02:37]  No, well, absolutely, but there is something particular about the aid to Israel, which is not just that they're the largest receiver of American foreign aid, but there's also something particularly distinct about the U.S.-Israeli relationship where you know.
[00:02:53]  There are an interesting statistic in the second DVD of is called Peace Propaganda the Promised Land.
[00:03:00]  Noam Chomsky, who I disagree with a lot of times, but he is not completely bad.
[00:03:06]  He was going over some stats and these might be dated, but Israel receives more foreign aid than the entire continent of Africa, seven times more aid.
[00:03:15]  Now, that's shocking because Egypt, for the longest time, got the second highest amount of aid, which is part of Africa.
[00:03:21]  So Egypt plus all those other states times seven is still less than what is given away to the Israelis who do nothing but lie to us, steal from us, take tech from us, and now and then attack us.
[00:03:32]  Yeah, and even just to add on top of that, the aid that we give to Egypt is basically aid to Israel too, because the whole deal is you're going to be a friendly government to Israel.
[00:03:41]  For a long time, it was the Mubarak, please look away money.
[00:03:44]  Yes, that's right.
[00:03:45]  And it seems like, I mean, we already had a little experiment just a few years ago in democracy in Egypt.
[00:03:52]  And it seems like if they had their pick, they were not going to elect people who were big fans of Israel.
[00:03:56]  So that is almost, you could almost count that as a matter of fact.
[00:03:59]  As soon as the Suez Canal is reopened and that brief window of interim government, that suddenly all of Europe needed to invade Libya.
[00:04:08]  So they didn't have those boats selling oil east.
[00:04:11]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:04:12]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:12]  And of course, this is really the stuff that everything that, you know, the kind of populist politics that I'm sure both of us don't love, you know, whether it's the kind of populist.
[00:04:25]  Well, the official line was the Egyptians are just angry at an internet video about whatever.
[00:04:30]  Oh, yes, yes.
[00:04:31]  No, well, that was Hillary's excuse.
[00:04:33]  No, but I'm not sure.
[00:04:35]  But I'm talking about in the Western world, like the populist left, the populist right, the kind of AOCs, the Donald Trump, Steve Bannons, all these movements, in many ways.
[00:04:44]  Because they're a result.
[00:04:46]  Well, that's right.
[00:04:47]  But all of these things rising up in so many ways is a result of the George W. Bush-Obama foreign policy.
[00:04:54]  I mean, this is and, of course, the financial crash of 2008.
[00:04:58]  But you have the terrible economy.
[00:05:00]  You have these wars that destabilize regions and then the subsequent migrant, you know.
[00:05:05]  Those are all related because the trillion-dollar expenditures on these, I call them imperialist capaids, mostly on behalf of foreign interests, by the way, because of huge pressure groups and lobbies.
[00:05:17]  But those wars, like in Iraq, for example, we just sunk trillions, trillions of dollars.
[00:05:22]  The reason that the Federal Reserve made interest rates so low was to finance these wars.
[00:05:28]  Well, the result was, you know, bled into the housing market.
[00:05:31]  And we can talk about that forever.
[00:05:33]  But, you know, they put people on teaser eights and raised the rate 17 times.
[00:05:37]  And then, of course, the rating agencies were bribed, which is totally illegal.
[00:05:40]  It's not a result of lack of regulation.
[00:05:42]  It was fraud, which is already illegal, but nobody gets prosecuted at moral hazard.
[00:05:47]  And so, yeah, I mean, the state just the wars and also the high-cost universities, because they use universities as structural investment vehicles into defense industries.
[00:05:55]  They go through hedge funds.
[00:05:57]  And you can learn this by going through the divestment movement and seeing specifically who they're investing in.
[00:06:01]  But the reason the state has guaranteed student loans isn't because they want college to be available for all or affordable for all.
[00:06:09]  They made it unaffordable for all.
[00:06:10]  So they do.
[00:06:11]  They gave guaranteed student loans so that anybody can go at a really high borrowed rate, which colleges just raise the rates, right?
[00:06:18]  Because the tuition money is reinvested through defense company hedge funds for the wars.
[00:06:24]  So ending the wars will actually help you reduce the cost of your schooling.
[00:06:28]  Wow.
[00:06:29]  Wow.
[00:06:30]  I didn't know that.
[00:06:30]  That's news to me.
[00:06:31]  That's really fascinating.
[00:06:32]  But it is amazing how all of these things are so connected.
[00:06:35]  And it's really all, it's like, even if you're like some left-wing guy who really, really hates Donald Trump, you got to understand that what this is all about is the monetary system, which is all designed so that we can be the world empire because there's no other way to do it.
[00:06:52]  If you didn't have this fiat money system, if they weren't able to, as you were saying, artificially lower interest rates, there's no way we could have fought these wars on the credit card.
[00:07:00]  And America was never going to put up with being taxed those trillions of dollars to fight the war in Iraq.
[00:07:06]  I mean, that's when if America didn't find gold to Cain, it wouldn't have separated investment banks from the lending institutions and there wouldn't have been so many subprime loans.
[00:07:16]  But it takes maybe six minutes to explain it.
[00:07:22]  It was never done on mass media.
[00:07:24]  No, it is too big to fail.
[00:07:25]  And let's all repeat the line we were told from our boss.
[00:07:29]  And it still hasn't really been fleshed out.
[00:07:31]  The kind of anti-war left, which I think was more of an anti-Bush thing, the line that some of the genuinely like, you know, for moral reasons, wouldn't want to go to war is, oh, they lied about WMDs and it's all about oil or something.
[00:07:46]  It wasn't about oil.
[00:07:47]  Our oil imports from Iraq don't change from before and after the war.
[00:07:51]  It's much deeper than that.
[00:07:53]  They wanted to create sectarian violence between different religious groups and ethnic groups in Iraq on purpose and destabilize it.
[00:08:01]  And we know this because it's written about in Israeli policy papers before the war begins.
[00:08:06]  Right, right.
[00:08:06]  And also.
[00:08:07]  And all these lies about WMDs come from a clique of neocons who are all Israeli partisans.
[00:08:12]  Right.
[00:08:13]  And I mean, we've got Dick Cheney on tape, you know, from the first Persian Gulf war telling him exactly.
[00:08:20]  Right.
[00:08:20]  Telling you exactly what would happen if Saddam was toppled.
[00:08:22]  I mean, it's not as if nobody can claim this was a surprise.
[00:08:26]  He actually, I mean, to give Dick Cheney some credit, which I rarely do, he called it perfectly.
[00:08:31]  He told you exactly what was going to happen.
[00:08:33]  So these guys knew what they were doing.
[00:08:34]  The idea that this was like... Cheney knew and Jim Baker knew like the kind of I just call them the less dumb because I'm not going to say any of them are smart, but compared to the Rumsfelds and Douglas Fife's, you know, Jim Baker and Cheney are certified geniuses.
[00:08:49]  I like what Lawrence Wilkerson has.
[00:08:53]  He has some of the best burns.
[00:08:55]  Chief of staff for Colin Powell.

=== Why We Joined WWI (08:06) ===

[00:08:57]  He was talking about Douglas Fife.
[00:08:59]  For those who don't know, Douglas Fife was sort of the face of the office of special plans, but it was really run by Richard Pearl.
[00:09:05]  But he said about Fife, he said, seldom in my life have I met a dumber man instead of with all this politics.
[00:09:14]  This is great.
[00:09:17]  This guy's a true Muppet.
[00:09:19]  Well, what is it?
[00:09:19]  So you, you, one of the things that's interesting about the work that you do is that you've been very willing to go and talk to, you know, people on the on the alt-right, kind of jump into those conversations.
[00:09:32]  As you told me when we were messaging before, you go, you're also very happy to talk to people on the far left, but they're not always willing to have a conversation.
[00:09:40]  Yeah.
[00:09:41]  They just want to scream with their fingers in their ear.
[00:09:43]  Like I will say about the alt-right, at least they want to have a dialogue.
[00:09:49]  Yeah.
[00:09:49]  You know, because they really think they're right and they're ready to talk to somebody.
[00:09:53]  With the left, they just want to preach at you and no return, you know, no, no counter argument.
[00:10:00]  Yeah, it's really, it's just, it's infuriating to even, even when the rare chance that you do get to talk to some of them, they're just, it's just like basically, you either, it's, it's purely religious.
[00:10:10]  It's like you either agree with me or you have committed blasphemy and then you are, I mean, instead of, you know, working for the devil, you're racist or sexist or Nazi or whatever their term.
[00:10:20]  I think Hitler has replaced the devil as the epitome of evil.
[00:10:24]  Like, I think, I don't encourage any of this, but if you were to walk around with a sign outside saying something negative about God or praise the devil or something, and you had another one that said, like, I won't say it because this would get F the Js or something, you know, Naziist, you would definitely, you go to prison, you would get killed probably.
[00:10:44]  You know, like, I think that's more taboo than the religious stuff that is the real religion today.
[00:10:49]  No, you're, you're absolutely right.
[00:10:51]  And I think to me, from like the libertarian perspective, what it really kind of plays into is that there, to me, that like statism is kind of the religion, the idea that like the government has kind of replaced God.
[00:11:04]  And World War II has become the great origin myth of the modern U.S. empire.
[00:11:11]  And so in order to justify that, everything has to be around, well, you couldn't possibly oppose World War II.
[00:11:17]  It's also the biggest and the deadliest war ever.
[00:11:20]  So you really need some mythology in order to.
[00:11:23]  You saw a switch around, it wasn't really until the 70s where initially the war was blamed on Hitler's militarism.
[00:11:32]  But then later, it's not Hitler's militarism.
[00:11:35]  It's everyone else's isolationism that allowed him to do that.
[00:11:38]  And so you're blamed on not going to war for the war, right?
[00:11:41]  Not the Treaty of Versailles, World War I, or any of the real like nuance causes.
[00:11:46]  It's got to be some second grade answer.
[00:11:51]  You know what I mean?
[00:11:52]  Right, right.
[00:11:53]  No, everything, it's really, it's like some weird Orwellian, like up is down type thing.
[00:11:58]  But even if you look at World War I, there's really no justification that holds the test of time that we should have been involved in World War I. Like, why would America need to go figure out what monarchs are going to win some European conflict?
[00:12:14]  But what the kind of there's a great meme I love.
[00:12:17]  It's got, it's like a soldier like going like this.
[00:12:20]  I'm scratching my head if you can't see the video or you're listening.
[00:12:23]  And it says, so, and they're American soldiers.
[00:12:27]  He's like, so Russian allied Serbians assassinated Austrians so that Americans can be in France fighting the Germans.
[00:12:37]  Right.
[00:12:37]  Yeah.
[00:12:38]  I mean, it's when if you actually just lay out the story, it's so absurd.
[00:12:41]  You think no, but the takeaway, the kind of Henry Kissinger, like, and this is what Henry Kissinger wrote about in his book is the takeaway is, well, look, the problem is we left.
[00:12:51]  The problem is that after World War I, we didn't stay.
[00:12:55]  We didn't have a NATO right away.
[00:12:57]  We didn't take care of all the countries.
[00:12:59]  We didn't have massive aid programs.
[00:13:00]  That's the problem.
[00:13:02]  And not the Treaty of Versailles.
[00:13:04]  That's not the issue.
[00:13:05]  The issue is that we weren't more involved in this treaty.
[00:13:07]  So everything is right.
[00:13:08]  We didn't annex enough land.
[00:13:11]  And yet we have the Geneva Conventions to say not to annex land because Danzig and all that did lead to World War II.
[00:13:19]  And they know that.
[00:13:20]  And yet there's one country that continues to do it.
[00:13:23]  And they get more aid from the United States than anyone else.
[00:13:26]  Yeah, no, that's absolutely right.
[00:13:28]  It tends to be that when you annex land and destroy private property and houses and shoot people, that it pisses them off and they react to it.
[00:13:35]  Imagine that.
[00:13:36]  And it's really, it's such a shame to me.
[00:13:38]  It just, it breaks my heart that now, what is it?
[00:13:42]  It's about to be 2020.
[00:13:43]  So what are we, almost 13 years, 12 years in change after that Ron Paul Giuliani moment.
[00:13:49]  The argument still hasn't, people still haven't been convinced of this, which should be such an easy, simple argument for any human being to grasp.
[00:13:58]  I mean, the argument, the controversial argument that Ron Paul made to Giuliani was literally in essence, when you slaughter people's families, they tend to hate you.
[00:14:08]  Like, that's actually the argument.
[00:14:10]  It's common sense.
[00:14:11]  Yes, as common sense as you can be, but it seems still that, you know, it's like the idea that it's radical Islam or something like that.
[00:14:18]  And my response to that is always like, look, even if you're saying that.
[00:14:20]  Why is there a radical element of Islam?
[00:14:22]  Well, right.
[00:14:23]  And even if you think if they are radical jihadists, then you really better not kill their families.
[00:14:28]  I mean, like, it's still that actually, the radical Islam is not even just a reaction to overthrowing Iraq and all that.
[00:14:36]  I mean, that is part of it.
[00:14:37]  But actually, the real origins of these Wahhabi madrasas started in 1976 when George Bush Sr. was the head of the DCI.
[00:14:46]  They created a clique called the Safari Club.
[00:14:49]  Initially, it was to go mess around with Africa, but during the Cold War, they needed proxy forces to mess with the Soviets.
[00:14:54]  And you know what happened in Afghanistan, Mujahideen, et cetera.
[00:14:57]  They were laundering money through BCCI and setting up extremist Wahhabi schools all over the Middle East and all the way up into what, well, it was Yugoslavia.
[00:15:07]  Now it's eight different nations, but to raise generations of these people that they could use as cannon fodder.
[00:15:15]  And so Zionism, Wahhabism, all these like extremist versions of faiths aren't just reacting to invasions, whatever.
[00:15:27]  They were fostered by intelligence agencies and an enormous amount of wealth to push people those directions because they wanted to have conflict because that feeds the MIC.
[00:15:38]  Right.
[00:15:38]  That's right.
[00:15:39]  Yeah, it's really just, it's like a biblical level of evil for what the amount of just like disaster that they've brought onto the world, just human tragedy after human tragedy.
[00:15:50]  And I guess the silver lining of it is that it does seem more and more today that there's just more of it's being exposed.
[00:16:02]  I think even though the correct ideology, which from my perspective would be like libertarianism and free markets, hasn't really been inserted into the conversation, but there certainly is less trust in institutions, in the corporate media, in the whole war machine.
[00:16:18]  Like I think most Americans, or at least way more Americans today, kind of see through the bullshit.
[00:16:25]  I think it was in the conversation when Ron Paul was running, basically, in the two times, well, the last two times he ran.
[00:16:34]  Maybe when he ran with Russell Beans in the 80s, it wasn't in the conversation, but I would never hear people talk about the Federal Reserve, for example, or something.
[00:16:43]  But when the Ron Paul movement hit, things that I've been trying to say forever that were not catching on, people were coming and saying it to me first.
[00:16:52]  Did you know about central banks?
[00:16:55]  So it started to get in that conversation.
[00:16:57]  And then we had Gary Johnson and basically a Democrat that called himself a libertarian.

=== Ron Paul And The Internet (02:18) ===

[00:17:03]  But I'm excited now because Jacob Hornberger is getting in the race.
[00:17:06]  And I think that conversation could come up again.
[00:17:09]  And there's not a better time than now, even more than when Ron Paul was running.
[00:17:14]  Because when Ron Paul ran, the internet was still a little bit of a baby.
[00:17:18]  We didn't have all these social media sites, although we're losing them.
[00:17:21]  We're getting the censor, you know.
[00:17:23]  And it's just gotten worse since then.
[00:17:27]  The housing crisis that he predicted happened.
[00:17:30]  I don't think anybody was hated more than Hillary and Trump.
[00:17:33]  And then you look at what do they have now?
[00:17:35]  Maybe Tulsi and probably won't win the primary.
[00:17:38]  And then the rest of them are a bunch of goofballs.
[00:17:40]  And then Donald Trump.
[00:17:42]  So I think people would vote for, I don't know, who are you?
[00:17:45]  You names, your name's Jacob.
[00:17:46]  All right.
[00:17:47]  You got my vote, please.
[00:17:49]  Yeah, no, absolutely.
[00:17:50]  And then at least that protest vote, if the guy's actually saying some really good things like Jacob Hornberger will be, I mean, hey, that's at least that shot, you know, is to go with something like that.
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=== Free Speech On YouTube (15:23) ===

[00:19:21]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:19:23]  What do you, now I wanted to get into it.
[00:19:25]  Or just to spread the philosophy, you know, even if he doesn't win, it, it shifts the window, so to speak, you know?
[00:19:31]  Yes.
[00:19:31]  There was a generation of people that are now, so I hate this word, but woke on the Federal Reserve.
[00:19:36]  And a little bit, some of them oversimplify and go around screaming Rothschild and stuff, but at least they know about it, you know, which is better than how it was.
[00:19:44]  Yeah, no, I'll take the oversimplification, even that.
[00:19:46]  I mean, like, I'll tell you, at least if you get the idea that there are these central bankers who are manipulating the economy and they're screwing you over.
[00:19:55]  That's the, you know, the basics of it.
[00:19:58]  That's good enough for me.
[00:19:59]  But as you said, you know, it's like, okay, we have this internet thing.
[00:20:03]  And I know this is something that we wanted to talk about because you're going through a lot of this right now.
[00:20:07]  So we have this internet thing.
[00:20:09]  And the people who are in charge, they realize that.
[00:20:12]  I mean, these people aren't stupid.
[00:20:15]  They've been ruling over humanity for a while.
[00:20:19]  And so it was, it's almost, especially in hindsight, but it's almost obvious that, of course, they were going to try to go after this and try to shut down dissonant voices.
[00:20:27]  I mean, they've had a stranglehold on the conversation for, you know, well over the last century, but really over the last century, they've had that.
[00:20:36]  And they weren't just going to say, oh, too bad.
[00:20:39]  I guess everybody now can compete with the corporate press and there's no more gatekeepers.
[00:20:43]  Well, have at it.
[00:20:44]  Hopefully the best ideas rise up.
[00:20:46]  Now, my prediction of this was always that the government would just regulate the internet and that's how they would shut down these dissonant voices.
[00:20:52]  I have been a little bit surprised in the way that it's manifested, which has been this kind of like deplatforming by tech companies.
[00:21:01]  And you, sir, I think have been like a real victim of this.
[00:21:05]  Why don't you tell people about it?
[00:21:06]  I've been seen it from for a long time.
[00:21:10]  Like I got, I'm one of the earliest ones.
[00:21:13]  Like 2005, I was kicked off of AOL, which was before Facebook was MySpace and before that was AOL.
[00:21:24]  So you're a pioneer.
[00:21:25]  You're like a pioneer in being deplatformed.
[00:21:29]  What an honored badge to have.
[00:21:32]  So I didn't have any foreknowledge or anything, but I predicted the 7-7 bombings in the UK.
[00:21:40]  But as a speculative thing, and like all my stuff got shut down, AOL was shut down.
[00:21:45]  My MySpace, which I had put all this effort into making, I was kicked off MySpace.
[00:21:51]  And then I was kicked off that again when I made a new one.
[00:21:55]  And it was in the middle of me moving to Japan.
[00:21:57]  I just waited till I got over to Asia and everything.
[00:21:59]  And that is what got me, excuse me, got me on my first radio shows and stuff is people would saw what I was saying right before I got annihilated.
[00:22:09]  And so it got me on shows and whatnot.
[00:22:12]  And then from there, YouTube starts in 2006.
[00:22:17]  I got deleted in 2008.
[00:22:19]  Although I never broke their terms because I had two names and they kind of, I didn't like the first one.
[00:22:24]  So I hardly ever used it.
[00:22:25]  I started a second one.
[00:22:26]  That one got booted.
[00:22:28]  So I just went back to the old one.
[00:22:30]  Never created a new one, though, because it already existed instead of breaking rules.
[00:22:33]  And then I got recently, this year I've been thrown off YouTube twice, last year once.
[00:22:40]  And last July, I had, well, what they did is they gave me three strikes.
[00:22:44]  I did an appeal and I got one of them removed.
[00:22:49]  But I couldn't really make any new videos or show my old videos because one more strike and I'd lose 13 years of work.
[00:22:56]  So I actually flew to Ireland to Google headquarters because it was either that or Texas.
[00:23:01]  And where I am, it's same distance, really.
[00:23:04]  So never been to Ireland.
[00:23:06]  I went there.
[00:23:06]  I talked to the bugmen at Google and I got all my strikes removed and channeled in good standing and all that.
[00:23:12]  They're not going to give me ads or anything.
[00:23:14]  So I thought, oh, finally, things are going well.
[00:23:16]  And then, of course, I was banned on everything else.
[00:23:20]  Vimeo banned me and took $5,000 worth of my sales.
[00:23:24]  I make political movies and they just, they decided to ban me.
[00:23:28]  Wouldn't even give me a reason why.
[00:23:32]  I got my followers harassed them or whatever or politely wrote letters.
[00:23:37]  I don't know, probably a bit of both.
[00:23:38]  So much that they finally said, well, you didn't actually break any of these terms.
[00:23:42]  And they listed them all, but they didn't like my criticism of Israel.
[00:23:46]  They called me, they were called me anti-Semitic.
[00:23:49]  I said, I'm not talking about an ethnic group.
[00:23:51]  I'm not talking about a race.
[00:23:52]  I'm talking about a country.
[00:23:53]  You know, if I criticize North Korea, does it mean I hate Asians?
[00:23:56]  You know, like that's ridiculous.
[00:23:59]  But that's, it doesn't matter to them.
[00:24:00]  They just didn't like what I'm saying.
[00:24:02]  But I really was pissed that they took all the money I'd just made and I was going to have a good Christmas with my kids.
[00:24:07]  And they walked away five grand and I had no way to sell my films anymore.
[00:24:11]  I had to go find another platform, go through that whole headache.
[00:24:14]  And then most recently, I've been kicked off PayPal for the second time.
[00:24:18]  First time was in 2014 because they thought I was aiding Syrian rebels or something.
[00:24:24]  I wasn't.
[00:24:26]  I got it back, but all my, yeah, I wasn't.
[00:24:29]  There's a friend of mine who's, she lives in Australia, but her nickname is Syrian Girl or whatever.
[00:24:35]  So I had a button that just said that because more people knew her by her nickname than her real name, Martin Sisley.
[00:24:41]  And they're like, oh, are you giving money to Syria?
[00:24:43]  I'm like, no, I'm giving money to a Australian that has a Syrian nickname.
[00:24:46]  That's all it was.
[00:24:48]  Not going to moderate rebels, which is basically Al-Qaeda.
[00:24:51]  I'd never would do that.
[00:24:52]  So I got my PayPal back, but they got rid of all my recurring payments.
[00:24:57]  So essentially, starting over.
[00:24:59]  And then a few weeks ago, I lost my PayPal and AdSense on the same day.
[00:25:04]  And I see these people on Twitter celebrating it and saying his Patreon is going to be next.
[00:25:10]  I'm like, what did I do to you?
[00:25:11]  I don't even know you.
[00:25:14]  And they're like, this guy, I won't say his name, but he was just saying all this libel about me on Twitter.
[00:25:22]  I flag it.
[00:25:22]  Nothing happens.
[00:25:24]  And he accused me of saying that Jews did 9-11 and all this crazy stuff.
[00:25:30]  No, I have a film about 9-11 that doesn't say anything like that at all.
[00:25:34]  That's like blaming the Iraq war on the Jews, right?
[00:25:36]  It's just because a lot of neocons happened to be Jewish.
[00:25:39]  It wasn't anything like that.
[00:25:40]  But we live in a day and age where nuance is dead.
[00:25:43]  And it's like, I call PayPal and I say, I've been with you for 15 years.
[00:25:48]  You're accusing me of advocating violence, which I've never done.
[00:25:52]  I have an anti-war website.
[00:25:54]  And they're like, well, it's this board over here made this decision and it's irreversible.
[00:25:59]  I go, well, what am I being banned for?
[00:26:02]  Like, what's the example?
[00:26:03]  Like, what did it say?
[00:26:04]  Where?
[00:26:04]  I was just on a website or YouTube video.
[00:26:06]  Like, what's what's being held against me?
[00:26:08]  Well, that's secret.
[00:26:11]  So you have secret evidence and you're judge and jury and you're just going to kick me off.
[00:26:15]  I had no means to get donations or sell films or memberships or anything without PayPal.
[00:26:22]  And because of government regulations, the Japanese payment processor only work here, you know, and PayPal is one of the only global ones.
[00:26:32]  And it's just, it's disgusting because I see the most disgusting people who have no problem with any of these platforms who actually advocate violence.
[00:26:40]  You know, the mainstream media advocates violence.
[00:26:43]  Like every war we've ever had, please tell me a three-letter network that was like, you know, I don't think that's true.
[00:26:49]  I mean, just came out, right, about the false or probably non-existent gas attack in Syria that was a pretext for launching cruise missiles, right?
[00:26:59]  You said it correctly.
[00:27:00]  I said it correctly.
[00:27:02]  Justin Ramondo, Scott Horton, others, they all had it right.
[00:27:06]  There's no gas attack, no motive, no physical evidence.
[00:27:09]  It's just now coming around.
[00:27:10]  It's too late for the people who died.
[00:27:12]  And even though they blocked most of the missiles, they still had to spend tens of millions of dollars to do that, you know, and it hurt them anyway.
[00:27:19]  And it's just all they ever do is lie and advocate violence.
[00:27:24]  And they're considered the authoritative source, right?
[00:27:27]  The CNNs and stuff.
[00:27:29]  And I mean, Wolf Blitzer is a former employee of APEC who routinely spies on the United States, like does actual damage to our country.
[00:27:39]  That's okay.
[00:27:40]  You know, the ADL has been caught raiding in police files and things like that.
[00:27:45]  Like, they're damaging our country, but all these groups, they get a massive financing, total push by all the platforms.
[00:27:52]  They can slander people.
[00:27:54]  They can libel people.
[00:27:55]  And there are no consequences.
[00:27:57]  And there are other people who've also been censored who, you know, I really couldn't agree with their views on anything.
[00:28:05]  But I don't want to be the guy deciding whose views can be said or isn't.
[00:28:10]  You know, free speech is free speech.
[00:28:12]  If you're not advocating violence, then you should be able to say whatever you want.
[00:28:16]  Right.
[00:28:17]  And it seems like it's, it's, it seems like there's this trend where guys like you who are going, you know, I've seen you on a couple different like YouTube videos where you're going and talking to these alt-right guys and actually telling them you're like, yeah, this ethnostate stuff is crazy.
[00:28:34]  Like you don't want to be racist.
[00:28:36]  You should never bring violence against any minority group.
[00:28:38]  And guys like you end up getting banned.
[00:28:40]  And then the like, you know, like the ethnostaters will get put on CNN or they get thrown like right into the forefront of things.
[00:28:47]  And it's like this, this, it's almost like some of these people.
[00:28:52]  They create this kind of like world where they don't want the reasonable opposition.
[00:28:58]  They want the guys like that.
[00:28:59]  So it's, and it's, they pretend that they're so scared of this.
[00:29:03]  Like, like the thing I've been saying for, for a long time now is if you're saying you're so scared of some anti-Semitic movement rising up, well, then you better allow people to criticize the governmental policy of Israel or the United States for that matter.
[00:29:18]  If you're going to say nobody's allowed to criticize these influential Jews, then yeah, okay, what you're going to deal with is not going to be Ryan Dawson.
[00:29:27]  You're going to deal with someone who's like, yeah, well, then fuck all of them then.
[00:29:30]  You know what I mean?
[00:29:31]  And that's a lot scarier.
[00:29:34]  Yeah, but that's the opposition they want.
[00:29:36]  I think they're desperate for another Tim McVay or, you know, a shooting or whatever because it gives them more budgetary power, more, you know, the erosion of civil liberties, et cetera.
[00:29:44]  These people are really sick.
[00:29:46]  I mean, you're talking about people that laughed about sanctions that murdered hundreds of thousands of kids.
[00:29:52]  They don't care.
[00:29:54]  And they're not really worried about like some idiot that runs around with a torch or something.
[00:30:01]  They're insignificant.
[00:30:02]  They just blow up these enemies that aren't really there.
[00:30:06]  But they really hate critics like us.
[00:30:09]  I don't have a shaved head and tattoos and saying racist bullshit.
[00:30:13]  That's what they need.
[00:30:14]  That's what they want.
[00:30:15]  I can hit Israel hard where it hurts just based on the facts.
[00:30:19]  I mean, they have snipers shooting kids in the knees and they're bulldozing homes and annexed land.
[00:30:24]  Like most people, once they know that that's happening, don't want to give money to Israel.
[00:30:30]  Don't support that at all.
[00:30:31]  Most Israelis aren't going to support that either.
[00:30:33]  Thing is, they don't know that.
[00:30:35]  The version they get from TV is Hamas is firing thousands of rockets every day at a child holding a puppy on Mother's Day or whatever.
[00:30:44]  And it's nonsense.
[00:30:47]  The lies kind of like fade away.
[00:30:49]  You know, it's a lot of times what guys like me and you are battling against is the short attention span because the lies after, like even you just pointed to with the Assad gas attack, it's like, okay, so this WikiLeaks release now we've got like more evidence that this was fabricated from the beginning.
[00:31:03]  But it doesn't even really matter.
[00:31:05]  It's not like you claim any victory because they've already moved on to we got to protect the Kurds.
[00:31:09]  And there's like this new like reason why you have to be involved in this one.
[00:31:12]  They're like, yeah, that was like three reasons ago why we needed.
[00:31:16]  Oh, yeah, sure.
[00:31:16]  We were advocating we started another huge war over this, but we've moved on to this other thing.
[00:31:21]  And so many of these things, I mean, like, you look at like they want a Kurdistan.
[00:31:27]  They want a Jewish state.
[00:31:29]  They want ethno-states sometimes, like when it's causing violence for everyone else.
[00:31:33]  Kurds can live in Syria just like they did before this war started as citizens of Syria.
[00:31:38]  Don't get to have an ethnically exclusive state within another state.
[00:31:43]  They already pushed out the Assyrians and Christians and Druze and other ethnic minorities to create Rojava.
[00:31:49]  And, you know, I don't, I mean, I have a lot of videos about Syria, but like, you don't get to do that.
[00:31:55]  But our government supports it.
[00:31:56]  They support it in Ukraine.
[00:31:57]  All of a sudden, then Nazis are okay.
[00:31:59]  We'll give them guns and money.
[00:32:01]  Right.
[00:32:02]  There's no principle.
[00:32:03]  You know, the only principle is, will this initiate a lot of violence?
[00:32:06]  All right, let's do it.
[00:32:07]  That's that's the government's way.
[00:32:09]  Yeah.
[00:32:10]  And then, of course, you know, it's like it's hard to, you know, I'm really not a fan of Donald Trump.
[00:32:16]  And of course, with all the stuff you've been talking about with Israel, I mean, he's just stuck.
[00:32:20]  Probably for all different reasons than what he actually gets criticized for.
[00:32:23]  Yes, the exact opposite.
[00:32:25]  I mean, the truth is, you know, I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump.
[00:32:29]  I didn't vote for him last time.
[00:32:30]  I don't support him.
[00:32:30]  And the stuff in Yemen, his policy on Israel are just too bad.
[00:32:34]  They're too disqualifying for me to support him.
[00:32:37]  But I do want to say, oh, yeah, Iran, terrible on Iran.
[00:32:40]  Pretty good on North Korea.
[00:32:41]  A few things here and there that he's decent on.
[00:32:44]  And rhetorically, he's going to freeze that up.
[00:32:46]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:32:47]  That's right.
[00:32:48]  But, you know, I got to say, I have to at least tip my hat to Trump that, you know, back when they were saying, you know, Assad, you know, did another chemical attack when they were pushing that around, just about any other president, I think, would have been more likely.
[00:33:04]  I mean, had it been Hillary Clinton, we probably, first of all, we never would have stopped arming the moderate rebels if it was Hillary Clinton.
[00:33:12]  And I think she probably would have had much.
[00:33:15]  They cut off heads in a moderate way.
[00:33:17]  They're moderate head choppers.
[00:33:19]  Weren't they eating a heart at one point?
[00:33:21]  One of them was eating a heart.
[00:33:23]  One of them from Ral Sham was grilling a pilot's heart and eating it.
[00:33:25]  John McCain went and met with that group.
[00:33:27]  That's right.
[00:33:28]  A friend of mine wrote that story, Michael Kyle, journalist from Ireland.
[00:33:31]  He's now deceased, but he did good work on that.
[00:33:34]  Yeah, well, I mean, so, you know, it's like, at least, at least Trump seems to have, you know, some hesitation before starting a new big war or before pushing like into like.
[00:33:46]  Do you know who drunk him into uh, shooting the cruise missiles?
[00:33:49]  Was his daughter, that's right.
[00:33:51]  This is according to his son.
[00:33:53]  Yeah she's.
[00:33:54]  She was, you know the the Poor Children speech.
[00:33:56]  And she, you know, she's married into the Kushner family, who has Netanyahu sleeping at their house.
[00:34:00]  So no doubt what kind of influence they had there.
[00:34:02]  Netanyahu, who's now been indicted right on uh and has a panic attack.
[00:34:08]  Yeah yeah, look at that, that's the thing.
[00:34:11]  Bribery charges and corruption, not murder, not smuggling critron triggers in and stealing, you know, nuclear material, or all the long list of crimes this butcher has done.
[00:34:20]  It's.
[00:34:20]  Oh, you took illegal campaign finance.
[00:34:23]  So did his wife.
[00:34:24]  That's what they're gonna get him on.
[00:34:25]  Well, I would even settle.
[00:34:27]  This is how much we're being, how badly we're losing.
[00:34:30]  That I would even settle for, even if we're not gonna start um, charging people with war crimes, even the ones who certainly should be charged with war crimes.
[00:34:38]  But even if we're not, can we at least say, well, you don't get to like, make the next call, you know like?

=== Who Should Be Charged (13:02) ===

[00:34:44]  Can we at least say that all the journalists and all the neocons and all the war hawks who sold us the war in Iraq, like We don't listen to them when they're advising us to go into the next war?
[00:34:53]  even if we're not going to like prosecute them or something like that.
[00:34:56]  But of course, those are the exact same people.
[00:34:59]  I mean, Netanyahu, when he would say, you know, I mean, like...
[00:35:02]  Judith Biller got a job at Fox.
[00:35:04]  Right.
[00:35:04]  Right.
[00:35:05]  Going to jail.
[00:35:06]  They're going to jail.
[00:35:07]  I mean, like, the fact that I almost, in a weird, perverse, sick way, it almost makes me admire some of them.
[00:35:13]  Like, Netanyahu was on television sometime in this last year.
[00:35:16]  We were talking about on the show.
[00:35:17]  And he was like, Iran is close to developing a nuclear weapon.
[00:35:20]  And you're just like, dude, the ball's on you, man.
[00:35:22]  Like, he's been saying this since the late 80s.
[00:35:25]  And he's given timelines.
[00:35:27]  Yes, he's given timelines.
[00:35:28]  Everything was a report in Mother Jones.
[00:35:33]  Not the best media, but this article was good.
[00:35:36]  And they had a list of how many they've been six months away for decades.
[00:35:40]  You know, they're always six months away.
[00:35:42]  And he's got this stupid cartoon bomb.
[00:35:45]  And you know, you know, he did a really good debunking of that.
[00:35:48]  It was like nine years ago, but Scott Horton did this like seven-minute speech that just had all the Iran rhetoric and excuses and then the reality and a little bit of teaching you about uranium.
[00:35:58]  Like it's got to be 90% or above the nuclear weapon.
[00:36:01]  It's only like nine minutes long and or not seven minutes long.
[00:36:05]  And it perfectly sums it up.
[00:36:06]  And you wouldn't know.
[00:36:08]  It's like he made it yesterday because all the crap they're saying now is exactly what they were saying back then.
[00:36:14]  The same lies.
[00:36:15]  Nothing changed.
[00:36:16]  Yeah.
[00:36:16]  Yeah.
[00:36:17]  I mean, there'll be one new incident, you know, one new thing.
[00:36:20]  Oh, they bombed this submarine or they, you know, they're, they did some attack that the Houthis are claiming they were responsible for on the Saudi oil field or something like that.
[00:36:28]  But it's basically the same thing.
[00:36:30]  And then right away, it's an, and they're working on a nuclear weapon or something.
[00:36:34]  And it's just what's infuriating is that people seem to like you, you would think they would all be discredited and go away.
[00:36:41]  I remember people like the Sean Hannity Fox News talking points were after the Mueller report came out.
[00:36:47]  And they were like, well, just a tweak on we can't.
[00:36:51]  It's just a tweak, right?
[00:36:52]  Right.
[00:36:53]  But they were saying, well, all these people who were promoting the Russia collusion hoax, they're all discredited.
[00:36:58]  And you're like, really?
[00:36:59]  Really?
[00:37:00]  Are they?
[00:37:00]  Because I'm still hearing from Max Boot on CNN.
[00:37:03]  You know what I mean?
[00:37:04]  Like, if he's not discredited by Navy, now it's the Ukraine gate instead.
[00:37:08]  It's these phone calls.
[00:37:10]  The whole Iran is building the bomb stuff is a tweak about the Iraq.
[00:37:14]  You can't let the smoking gun be a mushroom clown fear propaganda, the fear prime.
[00:37:19]  It's the same rhetoric.
[00:37:21]  Iran wants to build nuclear power because if they have nuclear power for electricity, it frees up all the oil they currently consume on electricity, which they could put on the open market, which that would give them enough to where they would be able to build all their infrastructure without getting international loans.
[00:37:38]  Welcome to the first world.
[00:37:40]  They don't want that to happen.
[00:37:41]  So they say, oh, they're building nuclear weapons.
[00:37:44]  And the audacity is the Israelis, the Americans, they're all guilty of what they're accusing everyone else of.
[00:37:51]  You know who does have nuclear weapons?
[00:37:53]  Israel.
[00:37:53]  They stole the material from the United States and built it.
[00:37:56]  You know, the only country to actually use nuclear weapons?
[00:37:59]  The United States on civilian cities, right?
[00:38:03]  And that's, oh, well, that just gets a pass.
[00:38:05]  Like you did Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
[00:38:08]  There's still radiation death from that, by the way.
[00:38:10]  And it's, oh, well, and I hate to lie about, well, that saved lives.
[00:38:14]  That would trigger me if you went into that one.
[00:38:16]  Oh, yeah.
[00:38:17]  Well, that's the same as up as down.
[00:38:19]  You know, the problem is that we didn't intervene enough in World War I and World War II.
[00:38:23]  That's the problem.
[00:38:24]  You know, it's just like everything is twisted into the exact big enough in Iraq.
[00:38:29]  Right, right, right.
[00:38:30]  All of these things, right?
[00:38:31]  Or is the reason why my favorite one, which just right-wingers can't get out of their head, is that the big problem was that Obama pulled the troops out of Iraq.
[00:38:41]  Like you have this two-pronged attack when when al-Qaeda, I mean, excuse me, when ISIS went and stormed into Iraq.
[00:38:50]  And it's like, one is that Obama is arming ISIS in Syria.
[00:38:54]  And the other is that he pulled troops out of Iraq.
[00:38:56]  And it was like, you know what the problem here was?
[00:38:58]  Pulling the troops out of Iraq.
[00:39:00]  It's like, well, how about the funding and arming ISIS part?
[00:39:04]  Couldn't we have just not done that?
[00:39:05]  And it's like, well, you know, that's, we don't really talk about it.
[00:39:08]  Well, if we hadn't handed the government over to Shia nepotists, then there wouldn't have been a conflict with the Sunni and the Kurds.
[00:39:16]  Well, that's for sure.
[00:39:17]  And there wasn't before.
[00:39:18]  They used to be all intermarried and everything else.
[00:39:20]  And so as bad as Saddam was, every bad thing he did, we made worse.
[00:39:24]  We made more war, torture, rape, starvation, all that made it worse.
[00:39:29]  And it's ongoing.
[00:39:30]  And you made al-Qaeda and Iraq becomes the al-Qaeda of Iraq and Syria.
[00:39:34]  That's all ISIS means, right?
[00:39:36]  It's the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
[00:39:39]  Yeah, it's just, but I don't know if it's correct to call it blowback because blowback is unintended consequences.
[00:39:47]  I think they're indifferent to the consequences.
[00:39:50]  They're like, yeah, let's just make a mess.
[00:39:53]  And it did result in terrorist attacks throughout Europe.
[00:39:56]  And, you know, knock on wood.
[00:39:57]  It could still happen in the United States because you're over there murdering people.
[00:40:02]  And the cognitive dissidence is just amazing.
[00:40:05]  Like, oh, why are we being attacked?
[00:40:08]  What did the September 11th hijackers say they're motivated by?
[00:40:12]  All the slaughter in Iraq and Lebanon.
[00:40:14]  And, you know, legitimately so to be mad about those things.
[00:40:17]  That doesn't mean you can go kill people in New York or anything.
[00:40:20]  But, you know, it's a very reasonable, predictable consequence.
[00:40:26]  How would you feel if people murdered your kids?
[00:40:28]  You know, it's that the most basic put yourself in someone else's shoes, something you should learn when you're three years old, you know, and it just isn't there with government.
[00:40:37]  No, absolutely.
[00:40:38]  And if there's any, like the best evidence to me of the fact that they know, like that they know that this is what's really motivating them is that since 9-11, they've had dozens and dozens and dozens of what they call FBI sting operations, which are really FBI entrapment operations.
[00:40:56]  And every single time when they try to recruit these guys, they never go to them and go, hey, don't you just hate the Bill of Rights?
[00:41:04]  Don't you hate that we have freedom and wealth?
[00:41:06]  And oh my God, did you see Ariana Grande's last video?
[00:41:09]  Isn't it terrible what the West is?
[00:41:11]  What they say every time is, what do you think of America's foreign policy?
[00:41:15]  Look what they're doing to these Muslim countries.
[00:41:17]  That this is every time, this is how they, even when we are doing it, just to set someone up to like inflate FBI, you know, like statistics, this is how they recruit people.
[00:41:27]  They know exactly what motivates these people.
[00:41:29]  And yes, many of them are religious fundamentalists.
[00:41:32]  And sure, there's problems with that, but that's what they're clinging to.
[00:41:37]  The motivating factor is the fucking bodies.
[00:41:40]  And of course, like you said, this is just basic understanding of the human condition.
[00:41:45]  You don't like it.
[00:41:46]  It is to me.
[00:41:47]  I mean, it seems like common sense, but it's like we don't have common sense.
[00:41:50]  There's this right-wing comedian.
[00:41:53]  I'm not going to steal his routine or anything.
[00:41:55]  I know you're a funny guy, too, but there's this Italian guy, and he was saying, I'm a right-wing comedian, which is pretty rare because most of the comedy is leftists where you offended someone and now you're out of the building.
[00:42:06]  We need a safe space for comics all of a sudden.
[00:42:08]  But he's saying, you know, right-wing comedians, when you get to say things that are common sense that are not politically correct, but are correct.
[00:42:17]  Like, if you want to go to school, you should pay for it.
[00:42:19]  Or there are two genders.
[00:42:22]  And there's a whole list of things that are like, well, obvious.
[00:42:24]  That was obvious in the 80s or whatever.
[00:42:26]  Now it's, what do you mean?
[00:42:28]  It's all about identity.
[00:42:30]  And that extremism with that it has a polar backlash, right?
[00:42:38]  that the SJW culture and the total protection around it is what gave rise to its polar opposite.
[00:42:46]  And people are gravitating towards socialism nowadays, nationalism or even ethno-nationalism and all these things.
[00:42:54]  And that's why we desperately need that libertarian voice because I'll hear people, oh, low-libertarian.
[00:43:01]  And then I say, all right, what's your problem with libertarianism?
[00:43:04]  And it's always actually an argument against anarchy, not.
[00:43:08]  Libertarianism, act like we don't want to have courts or anything like right.
[00:43:12]  I just don't want it.
[00:43:12]  I don't want the government involved in picking winners and losers in the marketplace.
[00:43:16]  It's that simple.
[00:43:17]  Like you can still have courts, you can still have police, you know.
[00:43:20]  It's like it's not anarchy uh, it's just the government's too big.
[00:43:23]  And you know all this.
[00:43:24]  All this on the socialist side, when they're talking about all the problems of crony capitalism and bailouts and no big contracts, i'm like, what do all these things have in common?
[00:43:34]  Who enables it?
[00:43:35]  Like, who gave the money to Lockheed Martin?
[00:43:37]  Oh, the government did well.
[00:43:39]  Who bailed out the bank?
[00:43:40]  Oh, the government did, you know.
[00:43:42]  And like, who set the regulations that got that whole housing crisis?
[00:43:45]  And anyway, the government.
[00:43:47]  And that quasi I don't know what you call the FED.
[00:43:49]  It's not really government or private, this sort of its own category, because they're appointed by the president but they're not responsible anymore.
[00:43:57]  But yeah like, all they will agree, if they're able to, to hear the libertarian philosophy.
[00:44:03]  But there are sort of people who called themselves libertarian, who never were just to be not what?
[00:44:10]  Not mainstream and be edgy or whatever, but they never really understood the philosophy.
[00:44:14]  And so i'm excited to have another Von Paul-esque person running, like Jacob Hornberger.
[00:44:20]  Like that's, even if he doesn't win.
[00:44:22]  Like we need that conversation shifted so that if because, if the philosophy spreads uh, that helps anyway.
[00:44:28]  Like you don't have to do it through government.
[00:44:30]  All you need the army to do is to quit doing things.
[00:44:32]  Yeah right, we just had a 55 billion dollar trade deal with Japan.
[00:44:36]  I can now go get U.s beef big fat steak for six dollars.
[00:44:39]  Couldn't do that before.
[00:44:40]  And oh yes, because Trump uh lifted some tariffs and so did Abey.
[00:44:44]  But that's not the government doing something, that's the government stopping doing what it already was doing.
[00:44:49]  Like they're the one that made the tariff in the first place right, so all you did was like quit doing what you caused.
[00:44:53]  Like it's a problem that you made and he finally stopped doing it.
[00:44:56]  So it's like if the government could do some more uh, more or less stop doing things, that would help a lot.
[00:45:03]  Yeah well there's, you know there's.
[00:45:04]  There's a lot in there in what you just said, and I think that the um, the like, what do they call the low libertarians or whatever?
[00:45:11]  Uh, which is like the right dismissive, the dismissive, take on libertarians, and to me, what a lot of that comes from is the fact that after because you didn't hear this until Ron Paul's presidential campaigns ended, and that's when that this term started really coming around, and the truth is that there have been no libertarian leaders since that that had any real teeth or real courage.
[00:45:33]  And I think when you see what, as you mentioned, this is kind of a response to the crazy unhinged uh uh woke, you know, pc left um, and when, when you're under attack constantly and in the most absurd ways like they're, they're looking for someone who's actually going to fight back And take a principled stand.
[00:45:52]  And obviously, just calling someone a low libertarian, there's no argument there.
[00:45:56]  It's just some like dismissive bullshit.
[00:45:58]  But it's like, I do.
[00:45:59]  It's kind of like, oh, we already addressed that and dismissed it in our own echo chamber with no libertarians around.
[00:46:04]  Right, exactly.
[00:46:05]  Exactly.
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[00:47:41]  My message, I was up at a pork fest last year and I was talking to like a group of libertarians.

=== Gender Stats And Backlash (05:17) ===

[00:47:46]  They were kind of talking about the alt-right guys and how they kind of like talk to them.
[00:47:50]  And I was like, my thing to them is that it's like, you got to like, you got to take a ballsy position.
[00:47:56]  You have to be willing to like stand up to the left in as hardcore a way as they are and then also stand up to them and then also tell them why they're retarded as well.
[00:48:04]  You know what I mean?
[00:48:05]  Like you just have to like have like the courage to say basic truths.
[00:48:09]  Like even that example of the right-wing comedian you were just using.
[00:48:12]  It's like, look, man, if you don't have the courage to say that there aren't 72 genders, then how are you going to stand up to the CIA and like real true entrenched powers?
[00:48:22]  Like you, you got to have the courage.
[00:48:24]  The problem is when you say there are two genders, like it's a, that thing, you can sum it up real quick.
[00:48:30]  People are confusing masculine and feminine with male and female.
[00:48:33]  Male and female are biological categories, you know, penis, vagina.
[00:48:38]  And masculine and feminine are sort of cultural qualities.
[00:48:41]  And a man can be feminine.
[00:48:43]  That doesn't mean he's supposed to be a woman.
[00:48:45]  It just means he's a guy who happens to be feminine.
[00:48:47]  And a woman can be masculine.
[00:48:49]  They want this teleology.
[00:48:51]  Again, they are guilty of what they accuse everyone else of.
[00:48:54]  They think that feminine and female have to match and male and masculine have to match.
[00:48:58]  So if they don't, you're supposed to be the other one.
[00:49:00]  Let's pour on the hormones and the surgery and whatever.
[00:49:04]  And I'm not even against that.
[00:49:05]  If you want to do that, fine.
[00:49:06]  But I don't want men playing women's sports.
[00:49:09]  I don't want a man thrown in a woman's jail.
[00:49:11]  This actually happened where he then raped women in the jail with his penis.
[00:49:16]  It's for clown world stuff.
[00:49:18]  But the problem is, if you're on YouTube or whatever and you say there are two genders, it's hate speech.
[00:49:24]  Right.
[00:49:24]  Right.
[00:49:24]  Like if you say common sense stuff, it's considered hate speech.
[00:49:28]  The alt-right, they'll come out with all these statistics about race and crime or IQ or whatever.
[00:49:35]  And I will give them the other explanations besides biology for all those things.
[00:49:41]  There's a long conversation.
[00:49:43]  And I've been able to convert quite a big chunk of them too.
[00:49:46]  I hadn't thought of it like that.
[00:49:47]  I didn't know that.
[00:49:48]  Whoever, and so dialogue is what gets rid of that.
[00:49:51]  But uh, deplatforming and echo chambers, that just lets it fester and grow, right?
[00:49:55]  No I, I completely, uh completely agree with that.
[00:49:58]  And it's almost as if, if the um, if the goal was uh, to build the alt right up as much as possible, the establishment couldn't have done a better job of it.
[00:50:08]  Like what, whatever their, their goal was?
[00:50:10]  But from Hillary Clinton's deplorable speech to the banning, to then promoting the leaders, then banning other people, then constantly lecturing white people about their privilege, I mean they've, really they've, they've done everything they can to create that situation.
[00:50:24]  Yeah, and that's racist itself, and racism begets racism.
[00:50:27]  If you're going to say what's essentially racist things about white people, like millions of people oh, they all are this, like this, right?
[00:50:35]  Um, then there's going to be a backlash, like a portion of those people are going to be sick of it.
[00:50:40]  There's not.
[00:50:41]  There's nothing surprising by somebody going, how come my group is held to a higher standard than this other group?
[00:50:48]  Right, like when my children, if they wanted to go to college in the Us, they got to get a higher because they're half Asian.
[00:50:54]  They got to get higher score than anybody like why they're not advantaged anyway by biology, but they, the left wants to take like average statistics.
[00:51:03]  They do this with the wage gap bs like well, on average, men earn more than women, like when, on average, men are working in fields that pay more, and there are a whole bunch of reasons for that that are not, it's not biology okay, but that you know.
[00:51:15]  It would be really weird if everybody of every category was exactly the same in every industry.
[00:51:20]  That would be strange.
[00:51:21]  There's always gonna be one more than the other in something right, that's just normal right yeah, they're like oh, we want all the exact same male engineers and nurses, and like, who cares?
[00:51:33]  But uh yeah, and it's just like proving that people don't understand math.
[00:51:38]  I had a great statistics teacher that said, people are innumerant, not illiterate, they're innumerate.
[00:51:43]  They can't look at averages and understand what that number means.
[00:51:45]  And it doesn't it.
[00:51:46]  Just you're not getting paid less for the same job just because uh, the average pay is less overall.
[00:51:53]  It could be more men are working or whatever you know, and you can endlessly make categories.
[00:51:58]  Well, how tall are they?
[00:52:00]  There's some stats of like taller people make more than shorter people and stuff like that, and it's like they don't really it's.
[00:52:06]  It's the.
[00:52:06]  The men are taller than women and they earn more.
[00:52:08]  And, and you know, add whatever.
[00:52:10]  It's just like.
[00:52:11]  You look at um, different demographics have a higher height than others and you.
[00:52:16]  But you have to look at average ages, right.
[00:52:17]  So it's like, oh, Hispanics earn less than Japanese, or something like, well, the average age Japanese in the Us is in the 40s and the average age of Hispanics in the 20s, and people in their 40s earn more than people in their 20s.
[00:52:27]  There's nothing magic about it.
[00:52:28]  You know like, but you need to.
[00:52:30]  It's not.
[00:52:30]  Let me say you gotta throw a Thomas Soul book at somebody or something.
[00:52:34]  They, these kind of simple things there's.
[00:52:37]  It's like a death by 100 cuts that you have to explain a lot of stuff, but they're not allowed to hear it, because if i'm gonna have that discussion with someone, don't even have to be on the alt-right, it's just whoever.
[00:52:48]  Uh, i'll get banned because because, just for letting them speak right, I breathe the same air as somebody who's literally Hitler and from talking to these people like none of them really, i'm not none.
[00:52:59]  There are some, but They're not.
[00:53:01]  They don't want a violence or they're not racist.
[00:53:03]  They're not Hitler.

=== Overcompensating For Racism (02:06) ===

[00:53:04]  They're not Nazis or any, that they just they want like things to be.
[00:53:07]  Even That's all Yeah, and I'm like, okay, and there's an over listen that I mean most of like Most, I think, of the way that history works is that, you know, people are reactionary, they form groups and react against others and that they kind of they tend to over what is not overcompensate but over correct maybe is.
[00:53:28]  Is the the, what the term I'm looking for that they tend to.
[00:53:31]  So it's kind of like people work on this instinctual level where they like they, you know, even even you see today, like the people on the left, you know, if you look at like Occupy Wall Street or something like that, where they're like, well, this is corrupt, so we need socialism.
[00:53:45]  You know, they want this kind of over correction, but they are responding to something that is corrupt, these bankers brought down the economy and get bailed out for it.
[00:53:53]  That is kind of bullshit.
[00:53:54]  And then their, their answer might not be perfect, but I think a lot of these young men who are drawn to the alt right, it's like they're lectured constantly about what they can and can't say.
[00:54:04]  They live in this hyper political correct world and they're like, how about?
[00:54:08]  The holocaust never happened.
[00:54:10]  How about that?
[00:54:10]  The holocaust never happened.
[00:54:12]  And now I can say yeah, I know, whatever I don't like well, I get lumped in with that crap too.
[00:54:15]  I'm like I give this analogy, i'll be real like clean with my language here, but with, like the holocaust stuff, for example that's, let's move away from that, because it's too emotional to talk about something that's also emotional.
[00:54:28]  But less than that would be like climate change right sure, let for the sake of argument.
[00:54:33]  The earth is getting warmer and it just put on pause of how much is man-made, how much is natural and doesn't matter.
[00:54:40]  If let's say it is getting warmer, fine.
[00:54:43]  If you're gonna do what Al Gore did and take footage from a fictional movie the day after tomorrow and act like that's the ice caps melting and it isn't.
[00:54:51]  And if you're gonna say the earth is gone in 12 years, which it will not be, and have polar bears and have uh, a whole bunch of either greatly exaggerated or fake things, like a picture of Kilimajaro in the summer and the winter, and say, look how much it changed from this year to that, and not telling people it's opposite seasons, you know right.

=== Doubt Created By Lies (04:23) ===

[00:55:10]  If you're gonna mislead uh, lie and exaggerate, it makes people doubt your position rather than accept it.
[00:55:19]  That doesn't mean the earth isn't warming.
[00:55:21]  It just means that silly evidence that you provided for it causes doubt.
[00:55:26]  Now imagine if you made a rule to say you're not allowed to say the earth isn't warming.
[00:55:31]  That would make people doubt it more, not less.
[00:55:34]  Right now, with World War Ii, you have a pretty similar situation.
[00:55:38]  There is a holo, there definitely was a holocaust, but there was definitely a lot of bullshit said about it as well, about soap and lampshades and all these ridiculous exaggerations electric floors, death by lumberjack and so on.
[00:55:51]  And so my position is, it's you should debunk all the silliness, just like you should debunk Al Gore and Aoc and all that.
[00:55:58]  And that doesn't mean this isn't true.
[00:56:01]  It's just like it's very important to get rid of these exaggerations, because if you don't, and once people find out they are exaggerations, they say like oh, there was no gas chamber at Buchenwald or something there wasn't, Or there was, you know, Al Gore's fake footage or something.
[00:56:15]  They throw the baby out with the bathwater.
[00:56:17]  Right.
[00:56:17]  But you, you cannot have nuance on these topics.
[00:56:20]  Like, well, that's that's banned from me even saying the H-word, you know.
[00:56:24]  Well, this is by the way, this is a great point.
[00:56:26]  And this is, you actually just said, you said better what I was trying to say before to the libertarians at Porkfest, where I was saying the reason why you have to have the courage to stand up to some of this leftist craziness is that if you don't, then you kind of cede that ground to the only people who will.
[00:56:44]  And if the only person who will stand up and tell the truth on a number of issues is also saying some crazy shit that you don't want to be out there, then they go that people tend to go, well, at least he's the only one actually telling me the truth.
[00:56:56]  I mean, look, this is part of the reason why when I've, I used to like listen to Alex Jones fairly regularly, and I could always tell he was a little like crazy and full of shit.
[00:57:04]  Like I could just always tell, you know, just from his like personality.
[00:57:08]  But there was some making the frogs, hey, they're coming after your guns, putting them a cam black helicopter chasing me right now.
[00:57:15]  Yeah, that's a whole enemy.
[00:57:17]  Actual tape of Alex Jones.
[00:57:19]  No, but you know what?
[00:57:19]  Part of the reason why somebody like that became so popular is because there are all of these real conspiracies out there, as you know very well, that the media just doesn't report on.
[00:57:28]  And then he'll throw a few of them out.
[00:57:30]  And I remember learning, like, I heard about Operation Northwood from Alex Jones.
[00:57:35]  I'd never heard about that before.
[00:57:37]  And I hear about that, and I'm like, this can't possibly be true.
[00:57:40]  And then you look it up and you're like, oh, this is real.
[00:57:41]  This really happened.
[00:57:43]  And or the plan really got signed off by the Joint Chiefs.
[00:57:46]  You're like, so this is real.
[00:57:47]  And only he told me about that.
[00:57:48]  So now if the corporate press refuses to cover this, he gains all this credibility with young me, where I go, oh shit, only he was willing to tell the truth.
[00:57:57]  And then you have a little counterargument to that, too, because I feel like you've probably heard that from, I call him Melon Head.
[00:58:04]  I really don't like him.
[00:58:06]  But you heard it from Melon Head first because he kind of acts like the alt media dragnet.
[00:58:12]  So that if he was out of the way, you would have heard it from me.
[00:58:15]  Well, that's probably, yeah.
[00:58:17]  But it's because he's there just sucking all the air out of the room.
[00:58:21]  They're like, well, the first time I heard about X was from Alex Jones.
[00:58:24]  I'm like, yeah, but you know, look, we were saying this.
[00:58:29]  He hijacked a lot of things that I said.
[00:58:31]  And then he would say, well, I don't care, but it's, but then he adds crazy sauce to all of it.
[00:58:37]  So it's like, if you want to talk about the Levant affair or something like that, and then it's like, oh boy, here comes Jonestown.
[00:58:42]  And I got to spend like 20 minutes on defense where you're like, no, I'm not denying school shootings.
[00:58:47]  No, I'm not thinking the earth is whatever.
[00:58:49]  Yeah.
[00:58:50]  He's not a flat earther.
[00:58:51]  He's not that bad.
[00:58:52]  But like, you know what I mean?
[00:58:53]  Saying Fukushima Radiation is coming on to America or all the elite are going to live in bunkers in New Zealand.
[00:58:59]  Sometimes he goes way off the rails, right?
[00:59:02]  But, you know, if 10% of what he's saying is true, that's 10% more than the mass media because all they do is lie.
[00:59:09]  CNN said about the Malaysian airliner that maybe a black hole swallowed the plane.
[00:59:15]  Yes, that was Don Don Lemon, who is, he is, I think, the dumbest person in cable news, which is really, really saying something because there's a lot of people competing for that title.
[00:59:26]  But yes, he openly started speculating about whether it could have been a black hole that took science.

=== White Guilt Unites People (13:23) ===

[00:59:34]  It's like, I mean, it's so, it's really like, as you said before, it's clown world.
[00:59:39]  It's truly, truly clown world.
[00:59:41]  So let's talk a little bit about that.
[00:59:43]  I want to add something said earlier I want to bump in.
[00:59:45]  I'm sorry.
[00:59:45]  No, Go ahead.
[00:59:46]  Go ahead.
[00:59:49]  You had a key point, and I was kind of like holding this thought in my head because the alt-right and the SJWs, I feel like when you were talking about, you said not over compensation, but overcompensation.
[01:00:02]  It's like the paternalistic racism, like, hey, look, here's my black friend.
[01:00:06]  Here's my drew friend.
[01:00:07]  Like people who announce adjectives like matters.
[01:00:11]  But anyway, I feel like it's two reactions to the same thing.
[01:00:16]  And it's collectivism once again.
[01:00:19]  Whereas it's from white guilt.
[01:00:22]  Like most of the social, most of the both groups are white people in the SJWs and the alt-right.
[01:00:29]  And it's a way of reacting to this collective blame on a race for what states did.
[01:00:35]  So if you talk about atrocities like slavery in the United States or colonizing of the Indians or something like that, which is what a government did, that gets blamed on whiteness instead.
[01:00:48]  Like the whites killed the Indians, the whites enslaved the Africans, the white, the white, the white, as if that's a product of biology.
[01:00:56]  It's not.
[01:00:57]  Who do the Irish and the Polish and all these other white people are not enslaving people, whatever.
[01:01:01]  It's definitely because of a government.
[01:01:04]  And you can see that there are other white countries not involved in it.
[01:01:06]  It's common sense, ought to be.
[01:01:08]  But there's this collectiveness, but they do the other thing too.
[01:01:11]  Like, well, so-and-so invented XYZ and he was white and Isaac Newton.
[01:01:16]  But the force behind invention and science and all that isn't biology.
[01:01:22]  It's free markets.
[01:01:24]  And you can look at that globally and historically.
[01:01:27]  That's what holds.
[01:01:27]  If you have C-trade and markets and so on, then those kind of spring forth.
[01:01:32]  But this collectivism on blaming a racial group for atrocities either makes someone feel like really terrible about it and want to overcompensate and sort of like hate themselves and hate others.
[01:01:46]  And that's why they want to support affirmative action and anything that helps them relieve that guilt.
[01:01:50]  Right.
[01:01:51]  And they show it's not their fault.
[01:01:53]  It's not a biological product.
[01:01:55]  The other side gets resentful for it and saying, why you blame me?
[01:01:58]  I didn't do it, whatever.
[01:01:59]  And they go the other way.
[01:02:00]  And I think the birthplace of the alt-right and SJWs is this nonsense from public education that is collectivist and is blaming races and also taking credit, whether it's good, bad, or bad.
[01:02:14]  They think it is a product of biology rather than any other source.
[01:02:19]  And so that you see that they both hold the only two groups that are obsessed with race and sex and all these categories are SJWs and the alt-right.
[01:02:28]  Yeah.
[01:02:29]  And it's interesting to break that biological cord.
[01:02:32]  That's right.
[01:02:32]  And it's also, it always seems like to me that the, you know, the government or the area of politics is where you see like almost like, you know, this is where people are like, look, there's like a goddamn race war.
[01:02:45]  It's like go on a YouTube video and look at the left or the alt-right.
[01:02:48]  And it's like, you could really, you could get lost on a YouTube stream of like social justice warriors and then alt-right guys and be like, man, this country's on the verge of a race war.
[01:02:57]  But then I walk outside my door and I go down to like the supermarket and it's like everybody seems to be kind of working it out and figuring it out together and people are friends and people are hanging out.
[01:03:07]  And even if they're not friends or hanging out, even if they have some private, you know, somewhat bigoted beliefs, they're fucking trading with each other and everything's fine.
[01:03:13]  And everyone's really just trying to get home to their family and kind of, you know, like amplified pluralism is what happens.
[01:03:20]  So a quick example, there's some kid named Desmond.
[01:03:25]  You know who I'm talking about already, right?
[01:03:27]  It's one kid.
[01:03:28]  It's one kid and he puts on makeup or whatever and he danced in a gay bar or something.
[01:03:32]  That just is like some one kid.
[01:03:35]  That became kids are dancing in gay bars everywhere.
[01:03:40]  It's just like one guy.
[01:03:42]  The knockout game, that happened like five times.
[01:03:44]  Oh, it's an epidemic.
[01:03:46]  They're running around knocking people out on the street for no reason.
[01:03:49]  And that just went away, right?
[01:03:50]  So it's like the media is grabbing these things they know is going to cause a conflict, right?
[01:03:57]  And just blow it up.
[01:03:58]  That Desmond kid's been on all the three-letter networks, like, yeah, let's show this to conservative Christians and stuff.
[01:04:04]  A little boy with eyeliner and they know that that's not going to fly, you know, and that they do it on purpose.
[01:04:10]  This is Frankfurt School.
[01:04:11]  It's like they want clickbait has extended to all forms of media, right?
[01:04:17]  It started on the web or whatever, but it's just everything.
[01:04:20]  And they exotic titles and all that.
[01:04:22]  Yeah, and it really bothers me.
[01:04:24]  Oh, it's infuriating because it's like you motherfuckers are like playing around with inflaming racial tensions.
[01:04:30]  Like this is not a joke.
[01:04:31]  This can go really, really bad.
[01:04:33]  I mean, I remember thinking about it with the, what's the fucking guy's name?
[01:04:39]  The guy in Chicago, the black gay guy who did that fake hate crime.
[01:04:44]  I have blanking on his fucking name.
[01:04:46]  You hear about this?
[01:04:48]  He was like a...
[01:04:49]  Most hate crimes are self-inflicted, I find.
[01:04:52]  Well, this one was really particularly outrageous where the guy said that two guys in Trump hats came and Jussie Smollett.
[01:05:02]  Yes.
[01:05:04]  So it ended up being complete bullshit.
[01:05:06]  Juicy Smollett, as HSL said.
[01:05:09]  That's hilarious.
[01:05:10]  Yes, that's right.
[01:05:10]  So Justin Smollett, he makes this whole thing up.
[01:05:12]  But the thing that's crazy is that even if the story he told was true, it wasn't national news.
[01:05:20]  It was like a guy got punched in Chicago.
[01:05:22]  People get murdered in Chicago, like dozens almost every week get shot.
[01:05:26]  Dozen every weekend.
[01:05:27]  Yeah, like, so it's like, why is this even a national story if what he said was true?
[01:05:32]  Only because the angle is black guy got punched by white people.
[01:05:35]  Let's make this a racial.
[01:05:38]  Right.
[01:05:38]  And then they flip it around and go, black guy, that was a racial story.
[01:05:43]  It's over-the-top nonsense.
[01:05:46]  Did you guys write the Litfinenko script or the Scripple script or the used cars mail or Hezbollah getting used cars from Mexico to sell in Africa?
[01:05:56]  For some of the real stories, right?
[01:05:58]  Like the legend of the real stories from not fake news.
[01:06:02]  Yeah, that was really over the top.
[01:06:04]  And he got busted.
[01:06:05]  But nothing happened to him, right?
[01:06:07]  Oh, no.
[01:06:07]  In fact, he's suing the city for like a false prosecution or something like that.
[01:06:12]  Now he's probably.
[01:06:13]  And that won't cause tension with the police at all.
[01:06:16]  Well, that's right.
[01:06:18]  How about the kid with the hat that was just standing in DC on the Lincoln Road?
[01:06:22]  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
[01:06:23]  The Catholic school, the Covington Catholic school kids.
[01:06:27]  Nathan Phillips is like all in his face because he just assumes, well, it's a bunch of white kids.
[01:06:31]  One of them has a Trump hat.
[01:06:32]  I'm going to go virtue signal in front of him.
[01:06:35]  But once again, even if the story was what they claimed it was right away, why is this on national television?
[01:06:42]  This is not a story.
[01:06:44]  Even if the story was, high school kid is kind of a jerk.
[01:06:47]  Like, is that a story, really?
[01:06:49]  And then it turns out he wasn't a jerk at all.
[01:06:52]  He was just standing there.
[01:06:53]  But then on the other side of it, you'll see some of these things where like when some white dude gets murdered by the cops, yeah, they don't really run with that because that's not going to inflame racial tensions because then you might actually start realizing, oh, this is more of a policing problem than it is really a racial problem.
[01:07:08]  And that's not really going to pit people against each other.
[01:07:10]  That just kind of unites people against the state.
[01:07:13]  So that doesn't do anything.
[01:07:15]  You know what I mean?
[01:07:16]  And also not covering that stuff even remotely, evenly or whatever.
[01:07:22]  People are going to notice that.
[01:07:23]  Like the alt-right will say, well, look at this white girl that got raped by three guys from Dominica or whatever, right?
[01:07:29]  Why wasn't this national news?
[01:07:31]  Yet this other fake story was, right?
[01:07:33]  Like you're just giving him legitimate ammo.
[01:07:36]  Yeah.
[01:07:37]  Right.
[01:07:37]  That's right.
[01:07:38]  Treating things like that.
[01:07:39]  Yeah.
[01:07:40]  And they do have a fair point in that because they're right.
[01:07:43]  If the races were reversed, the national press would have jumped on this and made it a huge story.
[01:07:48]  The answer isn't necessarily that, though, that now we have to draw some grand.
[01:07:52]  Do more big stories.
[01:07:54]  Yes, none of these.
[01:07:55]  These are like, you know, unfortunately, like there, there is violence in this world.
[01:08:00]  And, you know, as you pointed out earlier, the most institutional and the most widespread form of it comes from the state.
[01:08:06]  But yeah, it really is like it's just it's it's scary what they're willing to play with.
[01:08:12]  And I saw this with like the Democrats who are who are now at least several of the candidates are running on reparations for slavery.
[01:08:20]  And it's like, do you guys look around at what's going on?
[01:08:22]  Like, what do you think that'll do for race?
[01:08:24]  Wait a second.
[01:08:26]  Didn't the Democrats under Obama and Hillary invade Libya and cause open-air slavery in 2011 in Northern Africa?
[01:08:33]  Are they running on the make slavery great again?
[01:08:35]  Because that's what they did.
[01:08:36]  Human beings were sold for $400.
[01:08:40]  Go look this up, people.
[01:08:41]  $400.
[01:08:42]  You could buy a person in Libya because of essentially handing al-Qaeda a country.
[01:08:48]  That's what it's really, it was Hillary's war.
[01:08:50]  Well, I call Obama, Obama, the spineless, but Hillary, that was her plan.
[01:08:54]  And then that caused a refugee crisis.
[01:08:56]  And, you know, more and more escalation of problems because of government decisions by idiots.
[01:09:03]  And this, when coming back to the censorship thing, I hear a couple solutions.
[01:09:08]  People, oh, we need to enforce antitrust laws and we need to make them or public utilities.
[01:09:14]  Like, well, really, when the government in charge can be better, the government, look at me.
[01:09:20]  The government is not going to help you.
[01:09:24]  Okay.
[01:09:25]  You have Stockholm syndrome if you think the government wants a vibrant alternative media.
[01:09:31]  All right.
[01:09:31]  The only real solution, as grim as it may seem, is a market solution.
[01:09:37]  So, you know, get on VK instead of Facebook.
[01:09:40]  Start using DLive or BitShoot or Libri or something instead of YouTube if you've been kicked off.
[01:09:46]  Start using maybe Gab just as a backup for Twitter.
[01:09:50]  And instead of using Instagram, have a self-esteem.
[01:09:57]  That is good advice, sir.
[01:09:58]  But like you said, it does sound kind of grim.
[01:10:01]  And this is one of the reasons why libertarians tend to lose because it's always the real world.
[01:10:11]  Yes, exactly.
[01:10:11]  No, it is the correct answer, but it always sounds better.
[01:10:15]  It's an easier sale to say, no, let's just write a law.
[01:10:17]  Let's just have a government policy and we'll just do it.
[01:10:20]  And that's a simple sell.
[01:10:22]  And no matter what it is, it's like even if you're talking about like immigration or something like that and you go like, oh, well, maybe we shouldn't have a huge welfare state.
[01:10:31]  Maybe we should stop destabilizing all of these countries in South America.
[01:10:34]  Maybe this will, it's like, nah, build a wall.
[01:10:37]  Build a wall is just, that sells.
[01:10:39]  That's like, we got a plan.
[01:10:40]  We're going to do this.
[01:10:41]  All this other like kind of, you know, it's kind of abstract principled take.
[01:10:46]  It's just hard.
[01:10:47]  This is the libertarian difficulty.
[01:10:49]  What we want.
[01:10:51]  Yeah, well, that's right.
[01:10:52]  Well, what we have going for us is that the truth is on our side.
[01:10:55]  So what we have going for us is that we're right.
[01:10:58]  The problem is that it's like six sentences to sell it.
[01:11:01]  And it's not one sentence.
[01:11:03]  Whereas a statement into existence.
[01:11:06]  Yes, exactly.
[01:11:07]  Yes, that's right.
[01:11:07]  Well, look, like where I live, we don't have an immigration problem.
[01:11:11]  And yet Japan is a second or third wealthiest country in the world and right next to a whole lot of poor places.
[01:11:19]  And we don't have an immigration problem.
[01:11:22]  We also don't have social welfare.
[01:11:24]  You know how many refugees Japan took in last year?
[01:11:27]  47.
[01:11:29]  47.
[01:11:30]  That was double, and they complained.
[01:11:34]  It turns out if you don't put sugar on the floor, you don't get ants.
[01:11:38]  Right.
[01:11:39]  Right.
[01:11:40]  Yeah.
[01:11:41]  If you come to Japan, you're going to have to work.
[01:11:43]  So why would you do that?
[01:11:44]  Just go to Sweden and get a free house.
[01:11:48]  Right.
[01:11:48]  And then, and you also, you know, you get what you, what you attract is a result of the system that you have in place.
[01:11:55]  So if you have, if you say you come here, you're going to have to work.
[01:11:58]  Well, then the people who do go there come there to work.
[01:12:00]  And if you have a welfare state, a lot of people come there to get on the government dole.
[01:12:05]  And so, you know, of course.
[01:12:06]  It's necessary for to have these policies where Japan would be Chinese overnight and it wouldn't be Japanese anymore.
[01:12:13]  It wouldn't assimilate.
[01:12:14]  It just 26 million Chinese people would move to Japan in an instant.
[01:12:18]  It's way better to live in Japan than China.
[01:12:22]  It's getting better in China, but especially when they were communists.
[01:12:25]  I mean, it was terrible.
[01:12:27]  People would come to Japan and have a baby and then go back to China because they had a one-child policy.
[01:12:31]  So they come over here and have the baby and then go back.
[01:12:34]  I mean, it's ridiculous, the stupid government logic.
[01:12:37]  Like right next to Taiwan, according to going back to common sense, Taiwan's a country, right?
[01:12:44]  I mean, they have their own government, their own currency, their own laws.
[01:12:48]  It's a country.
[01:12:49]  But we have the one child, the one China policy.
[01:12:52]  It's like only in government logic is Taiwan still part of China, right?

=== Government Logic In China (15:15) ===

[01:12:58]  What are you talking about?
[01:12:59]  It's a country.
[01:13:00]  Just admit it.
[01:13:01]  Nope.
[01:13:02]  You know, we're not going to do that.
[01:13:04]  Everyone knows Israel has nukes, but our government stance is to neither deny or acknowledge kind of thing.
[01:13:10]  Yeah, isn't that crazy?
[01:13:11]  But there's pictures of the warheads from Mordecai Venudo, you know, who Robert Maxwell, by the way, helped put in prison.
[01:13:19]  His daughter is the fellow rapist with Jeff Epstein.
[01:13:23]  Probably not time to get any of that stuff.
[01:13:25]  We're going to have to do that on another show.
[01:13:27]  I wanted to talk Epstein with you, but we'll have to do another podcast because otherwise we're just going to rush through it the whole time.
[01:13:32]  But that really is dark stuff, though, man.
[01:13:36]  But you know what?
[01:13:37]  I'll say this quickly about Epstein.
[01:13:40]  He's most infamous about being a child raping lunatic and a blackmailer and so on, which he was not alone, though.
[01:13:48]  He had a whole huge backing.
[01:13:49]  He just wasn't some guy that appeared.
[01:13:52]  But when he started working with the Mashad, the first thing he was trying to do is illegal arms sales with like Doug Leese and the who's who.
[01:14:02]  But his very first Ponzi schemes, like ripping off insurance companies and then trying to buy out airliners and so on with Steve Hoffenberger and those guys, he got bailed out by the New York Federal Reserve.
[01:14:16]  He set up liquid funding LTD in Bermuda to act as basically a sieve to offload toxic assets from Bear Stearns.
[01:14:26]  So, you know, Bear Stearns was in the subprime market and all that.
[01:14:30]  And for people who don't know what I'm talking about, what they do to balance their books is they'll take a bunch of debts, like the money they owe and IOUs and sell it to their own subsidiary.
[01:14:41]  So they'll sell it to Epstein.
[01:14:43]  So now he owes all the money.
[01:14:45]  And then their book looks good to the rating agency.
[01:14:47]  They're like, look, we're solvent, you know?
[01:14:49]  But then at the first of the month, they buy him back again.
[01:14:53]  It's not a real sale.
[01:14:54]  So they would go in a loop like that.
[01:14:56]  So that was like the simple part of the gamut.
[01:14:58]  But the result was guys like Jeff Epstein and Steely and all these people.
[01:15:04]  And it's not just Bear Stearns.
[01:15:06]  It's like every financial institution, Goldman Seattle, it's all of them.
[01:15:10]  They made Maiden Lane.
[01:15:12]  And then together with the financial banks, they came in and bought out Bear Stearns.
[01:15:20]  But the senior loan in that entire affair was from Maiden Lane LLC created by the New York Federal Reserve.
[01:15:28]  It was $28 billion out of $30 billion.
[01:15:36]  So JP Morgan Chase is only paying like $1.5 billion.
[01:15:40]  And then essentially a dummy company set up by the New York Federal Reserve pays the other $28 to make solvent other companies that were totally engaged in fraud.
[01:15:52]  And it got worse.
[01:15:53]  They put commercial paper in the Dripist Money Market and Frank Russell Investment and others that like hundreds of millions of dollars of dummy money.
[01:16:01]  And it's way worse than the kind of common explanation you get about CDOs and credit default swaps and so on.
[01:16:07]  It was way worse than all that.
[01:16:09]  But that whole mess is another show, too.
[01:16:11]  But I just wanted to say, like, government was backing Epstein, the U.S. government and the U.S. banks, and then later the Israelis.
[01:16:19]  Like, he always had a big daddy that got him out of trouble.
[01:16:24]  And that happened again into, you know, the first time he got caught.
[01:16:27]  He didn't really go to prison.
[01:16:30]  And what's his name?
[01:16:32]  The guy who was the energy secretary who just stepped down, blinking on his face.
[01:16:36]  Well, Acosta got the blame for that, but nobody really gave him the deal.
[01:16:40]  But he didn't say that it came from intelligence that was basically like, let this guy go easy on him.
[01:16:46]  And he was kind of like, oh, well, I was just doing kind of what I was told.
[01:16:49]  And then, of course, like, if the corporate press wasn't just completely useless, wouldn't that piece of information alone just warrant like a ton of investigative reporting?
[01:17:01]  You go, oh, wait, well, who the hell was that?
[01:17:04]  Where did you get this from?
[01:17:05]  And no one seems to be interested in these follow-up questions.
[01:17:08]  And then, of course, as we all saw, and anyone can understand, that chick at ABC News who was like, yeah, we had this story years ago.
[01:17:15]  And they probably squashed it.
[01:17:18]  Yeah.
[01:17:18]  So it's, yeah, it's really just so much about that story is just so obviously like this.
[01:17:23]  Well, it's his, his sponsors, you know, Les Wexner, they've had witnesses come forward now saying that Dershowitz and others raped young women in Wexner properties and were held there by his private security guards.
[01:17:34]  This is a billionaire who's also been accused, by the way, of sexual harassment by seven of his own employees.
[01:17:40]  But Wexner and Michael Steinhardt and Charles and Edgar Brofman Sr., with some other people, created something called the mega group, which is short for mega donors.
[01:17:51]  It's a Zionist think tank made of who's who, the craziest of the crazy and the Zionist clicks.
[01:17:59]  And their whole idea was to sponsor and whether it was hook or crook, bribery, blackmail, whatever it took to get lucrative real estate deals and to push Israeli interests in the United States.
[01:18:14]  And so Epstein having a house given to him by Leslie Wexner and setting up the Wexner Foundation where the two of them illegally financed Ahud Barat, who was the head of the Mossad at the time and later became the prime minister of Israel, is beyond suspicious.
[01:18:29]  They had the Cardi Group that did the same thing, another money laundering front where they were giving money to Israel.
[01:18:34]  And then Barack's the guy that introduced Blackstone to Harvey Weinstein, who's on trial for raping multiple women, former Mossad agents that go around harass the victims of rape.
[01:18:46]  And it gets worse and worse.
[01:18:48]  You get into George Steinhardt and Ari Scher and these child raping rings in Brazil.
[01:18:53]  There's a long story.
[01:18:55]  And if, you know, with enough time, I can walk through it all.
[01:18:58]  I've made like maps about this stuff.
[01:19:00]  But what you're hearing on the three-letter networks is basically just been reduced to Gazelle Maxwell, John Luke Burnell, and Prince Andrew, and nobody else, not the Dubins, not nothing, you know, and Dershwich maybe, but it's like a five-person ring.
[01:19:16]  I'm like, oh, no, it's way bigger than that.
[01:19:19]  Right, well, they'll kind of throw, they'll maybe even throw Bill Clinton in because it's kind of like, well, we all knew Bill Clinton is kind of a creep.
[01:19:26]  And he's kind of gone and the Clintons are out of power now.
[01:19:28]  So there's pictures of him with Trump.
[01:19:30]  And Bill Clinton was on the airplanes or something like that.
[01:19:33]  Right.
[01:19:33]  And Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton and Hillary gave pardons to Mark Rich and Pincus Green, who are already caught in child trafficking and owned Glencore and all this exploitation of African copper mines and Zambia.
[01:19:46]  The list of crimes from the Clintons is too much.
[01:19:50]  I can't even memorize it all.
[01:19:52]  Dude, who would have overwhelming?
[01:19:55]  Someone, I saw like a, I saw a meme, I think it was.
[01:19:58]  I might be getting this a little bit wrong, but it really made me laugh.
[01:20:00]  was like a meme on uh twitter that i saw where they said uh they go who would have thought that uh pizzagate would age better than the russia collusion hoax it's just like it really is like you look back at pizzagate and how outraged they got about that you're like well look even if they weren't like completely on and maybe some people said some things that weren't exactly true you're like hey prince go to express pizza yeah like there does seem like there's what they often do Well, it is and isn't.
[01:20:28]  Like what they often do as a form, this is like Operation Mockingbird stuff combined with MK Naomi, which is a little different than MK Ultra.
[01:20:37]  And what you think you know about MK Ultra is probably the Jonestown weirdo version, but there is a real version with George White and all these things.
[01:20:44]  And put a pen in that.
[01:20:47]  But what Pizzagate was saying, it's like there are things like that.
[01:20:52]  The Finders cult, the man-to-man, the Dream Boys, the Franklin scandal, that there are things like that with real child trafficking and all this really weirdo stuff, killing goats and all that, people with red shoes.
[01:21:07]  But what they did is they put out a story that was false saying, oh, look, the Bodestas are in Spain or whatever.
[01:21:14]  And it's actually just a police sketch, two sketches of one guy, not the two brothers.
[01:21:17]  So it's easily debunkable stuff.
[01:21:19]  So they go, oh, that's nonsense, right?
[01:21:23]  But even though that is, and Pizzagate was false, things like that actually are happening all the time.
[01:21:32]  I did a video of all the government agencies involved in child rape.
[01:21:36]  And it's just pick something.
[01:21:38]  The National Park Service, the BIA, the FBI, the CIA, like they all do it.
[01:21:44]  The DOD and Dyn Corps, you probably know that one, pretty famous, like raping our own military personnel and drugging women.
[01:21:50]  And it's gross.
[01:21:51]  And child trafficking is a multi-billion, well, human trafficking is a multi-billion dollar business.
[01:21:58]  I don't know how much of that is kids versus it's mostly women in the sex trade.
[01:22:04]  But you're talking about multiple billions of dollars.
[01:22:06]  And absolutely, the government's involved in all that.
[01:22:10]  Yeah, well, look.
[01:22:10]  There are countries that didn't have laws against it until the 2000s.
[01:22:14]  Yeah, look, look, man, I mean, I've looked into some of this stuff.
[01:22:17]  Obviously, you know this stuff a lot better than I do.
[01:22:19]  But what I've always been saying for years is that you just got to go like when you really start, you know, to use that term that you use that I hate using as well, but when you get start getting woke about the true evil nature of the state and what they do, like to bring it back to that Madeline Albright quote that you mentioned earlier, when you're someone who can just straight up say with no hesitation, nothing, she's presented with that 500,000 children have starved to death.
[01:22:45]  And she goes, yeah, well, we think that was in 97.
[01:22:48]  This is pre-97.
[01:22:50]  That's right.
[01:22:51]  And this is pre-9-11.
[01:22:52]  It's not even like, oh, there was this, you know, the justification for this whole war.
[01:22:56]  Yeah, Rock's not a threat to America.
[01:22:58]  No, you couldn't even argue.
[01:22:59]  It was like they were a threat of like to retaliate to slant drilling by Kuwait.
[01:23:04]  There's no, there's no plausible justification for this.
[01:23:07]  And you're and which we actually gave them the okay to do.
[01:23:10]  Right.
[01:23:11]  Right.
[01:23:11]  Or to go against Kuwait.
[01:23:12]  Yes.
[01:23:13]  No, that, that stuff I have read a lot about.
[01:23:15]  Yeah, the whole first Persian Gulf War was such a sham.
[01:23:18]  But it's like, if you, like, you got to step back, just as a human being, you're like, who is that person?
[01:23:24]  Like, what type of person is just okay with hundreds of thousands of children dying?
[01:23:28]  Do you think like, who is that?
[01:23:30]  Who's a rapper?
[01:23:30]  And they took the babies out of the incubators and they took them out and they threw them on the cold floor.
[01:23:36]  Oh, those poor babies.
[01:23:37]  What about the 500,000 children?
[01:23:39]  Oh, well, they're not on incubators.
[01:23:41]  So dude, but one of my favorite things was Tom Woods, who's like one of my favorite people on the planet.
[01:23:49]  And he was.
[01:23:50]  For millennials, that was a justification for Gulf War I, by the way.
[01:23:53]  It was a speech by Naira, coached by Hill and Knowlton.
[01:23:56]  It was a complete farce.
[01:23:57]  Yes, that's right.
[01:23:58]  You can find it.
[01:23:59]  Woods, it was a hell of a performance, though, that she gave.
[01:24:03]  Give her credit for that.
[01:24:04]  Great acting.
[01:24:05]  Yeah, I was a little kid watching that, and I just thought she's 15.
[01:24:10]  She has no accent.
[01:24:11]  She speaks perfect English.
[01:24:13]  I think this is BS.
[01:24:14]  Yeah, well, look, you were onto it quick because a lot of other people thought about it.
[01:24:17]  So, Tom Woods was like a standard kind of Republican guy.
[01:24:22]  And that war is what turned him into an anti-war, like libertarian-leaning guy.
[01:24:28]  I mean, he found libertarianism later, but that war, I think, turned him against the warfare state.
[01:24:33]  But he said, What did this thing when he was talking about it where he was like, He was like, even as they're telling you that as Saddam Hussein's army is invading Kuwait, they're stopping at the hospitals to take babies out of incubators?
[01:24:45]  He was like, Even if there was a group of people who are this evil, doesn't that just seem like not a practical plan when you're invading a country?
[01:24:52]  Like, you're invading a country and you're like, Well, quick, we got to stop off at the hospital to just take babies out of incubators.
[01:24:59]  Like, the whole thing just seemed so obviously bullshit.
[01:25:02]  But people atrocity propaganda, the killing babies, gassing babies, like Syria was accused of doing, and babies on incubators, and babies in ovens, and all this stuff you hear.
[01:25:13]  Like, Tom Lantos championed that war, the Gulf War, and he knew the original OSS propaganda from T.D. Jackson and the rest of them that came out of World War II.
[01:25:24]  And, you know, I'm one of these guys that goes around and tries to debunk nonsense, even in real events, whether it's 9-11, World War II, the Civil War, whatever.
[01:25:36]  I'll get real unpopular.
[01:25:38]  You know, I'm like, no, the Civil War was not about freeing the slaves.
[01:25:42]  They're like, what?
[01:25:43]  Lincoln was a hero.
[01:25:46]  But, you know, I'm just telling you the evidence, man.
[01:25:50]  And so, yeah, with Gulf War One, though, I would say this: if you look at the level of support that that war had, because that was pre-internet completely, versus the Second Iraq War, the Second Iraq War had millions of people protesting around the globe before it started.
[01:26:09]  The problem is people are obsessed with what they've been taught.
[01:26:12]  Like, they're in love with seeing the hippies of Vietnam, like with signs and stuff.
[01:26:16]  And they think that's why we got out of Vietnam.
[01:26:18]  We didn't get out of Vietnam.
[01:26:19]  We've been there for nine years.
[01:26:22]  That sort of theatrical resistance is almost useless.
[01:26:27]  Like the grown-up thing to do, which people died to give you the right to do, is to call or go to Congress, make a meeting, and talk to them.
[01:26:38]  But the only ones doing that are corporate lobbyists, but you can do that.
[01:26:43]  That's how we got the 28 pages released for the infamous 28 pages on the Saudi Arabian role in 9-11.
[01:26:50]  And it's, you know, it's straight up show that Prince Ben Turk Fasil and Bandar Bush, through intermediaries, Amarbo Yumi and Osama Basnan, helped finance two, actually three, but two 9-11 hijackers.
[01:27:04]  There's other evidence that shows the third one, but I don't feel like explaining.
[01:27:07]  So you had Kale Amidhar and Alvifan Al-Hazmi directly financed by a state power.
[01:27:14]  Those papers sat, you know, redacted for over a decade.
[01:27:20]  I had to, I flew from Japan to Washington, D.C. and lobbied constantly to get those released.
[01:27:27]  And they were.
[01:27:29]  And I realized, man, why don't we do more of that?
[01:27:33]  Yeah.
[01:27:34]  Why don't we have the anti-AIPAC and the anti-all this stuff and just go in?
[01:27:37]  Ron Paul had it down.
[01:27:38]  He said lobbyists never came to see me because he wouldn't give them money.
[01:27:42]  So they just quit going to him.
[01:27:45]  I don't blame the lobbyists.
[01:27:46]  Blame the state.
[01:27:47]  I love that I could have, like, I can just imagine in my head, because this was like a thing that became known about Ron Paul that he was the only congressman who the lobbyists just stopped going to because they just knew.
[01:27:57]  But you can imagine when Ron Paul first got into Congress and like the first few times that lobbyists went to him and he was like, well, Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution doesn't give me the authority and blah, blah, blah.
[01:28:07]  And they're like, what the fuck is this guy talking about?
[01:28:10]  Like, what?
[01:28:12]  They're like, dude, are you new around here?

=== Ron Paul Vs Lobbyists (09:10) ===

[01:28:14]  And then they'd be like, we'll try him again in a few weeks.
[01:28:16]  And like, he was only in there because the guy, the representative in his state died.
[01:28:23]  And so, you know, it's just like 98% or something like that incumbencies, incumbents get re-elected.
[01:28:30]  So because there was a death and Ron Paul's, he's a Republican.
[01:28:34]  He's a medical doctor.
[01:28:35]  He had all the good optics.
[01:28:36]  And we got like a real person in Congress for once, right?
[01:28:40]  And yeah, here's a big part of it.
[01:28:44]  So he was in like Lake Jackson or whatever his district in Texas was.
[01:28:50]  It's like a small little district.
[01:28:51]  Dallas 70.
[01:28:52]  Yeah.
[01:28:52]  So it's this little district in Texas.
[01:28:54]  He was a baby doctor who had delivered like 3,000 babies.
[01:28:59]  So if you think about the thousands of babies he had delivered, he had delivered like one out of every four persons in that town's baby or niece or grandson or something like that.
[01:29:10]  So he was able.
[01:29:11]  Parents and their kids can vote for him.
[01:29:13]  That's right.
[01:29:14]  But then when they would go like they'd be like, Ron Paul's a libertarian.
[01:29:17]  He wants to end the war on drugs.
[01:29:18]  He wants to legalize heroin.
[01:29:19]  They'd be like, Dr. Paul?
[01:29:21]  No, I think he's cool.
[01:29:23]  So he was able to get out of all the like kind of normal libertarian pitfalls that you would have just because people knew him in the community and were like, no, he's like, and if you've ever met Ron Paul, he's just like the greatest human being.
[01:29:34]  Like he's everything he is on TV.
[01:29:36]  He's just this.
[01:29:36]  People say, yeah, he's just like you see him.
[01:29:39]  Literally exactly, exactly the same guy.
[01:29:42]  He is that guy.
[01:29:43]  And so it was just like people just weren't buying it when they would try.
[01:29:46]  He really, unfortunately, it was like an aligning of the stars, like just the perfect guy in the perfect district where he could actually make it happen.
[01:29:54]  But I just want to add.
[01:29:56]  I think he's a living philosopher.
[01:29:57]  I think he, you know, I know there are other libertarians that are just as philosophically sound or whatever, but he's the one that got that spread that message to more people than all these intellectuals and Hayek and the whole Mises Institute, all of them combined.
[01:30:11]  Like Ron Paul reached more people.
[01:30:13]  Like not by himself, but that movement, it just hit and exploded with the youth.
[01:30:18]  And talking about his rebuttal to Giuliani, which you brought up in the beginning of the conversation, it was like the following day you realize that, oh, and Ron Paul got more donations from the U.S. military than all the other Republican candidates put together.
[01:30:33]  That was a big moment in terms of breaking the paradigm that we lived under.
[01:30:37]  And I'll tell you that now it's like, it's really...
[01:30:39]  But they said racist newsletters.
[01:30:41]  Oh, yeah, of course.
[01:30:42]  Right.
[01:30:42]  That's right.
[01:30:43]  Because some other people wrote some questionable things 30 years ago.
[01:30:46]  But you know what?
[01:30:46]  The same guy smearing me right now is saying Ron Paul's a racist and calling me a Drew hater and all that same thing.
[01:30:52]  Of course.
[01:30:53]  Right.
[01:30:53]  Exactly.
[01:30:53]  It's always just the worst.
[01:30:55]  This ridiculous clown.
[01:30:56]  He's got like blue paint on his face and stuff.
[01:30:59]  God.
[01:31:00]  Oh, Jesus, the worst.
[01:31:02]  Yeah.
[01:31:03]  Well, there is, but I'll tell you, there's something about Ron Paul.
[01:31:06]  I was thinking about this in terms of Ron Paul's legacy recently when, you know, I was reading some article where they were bashing Tulsi Gabbard and they were saying that right-wingers are supporting Tulsi Gabbard.
[01:31:20]  So this was the big hit on her.
[01:31:22]  It's all these right-wingers who are actually interested in Tulsi Gabbard.
[01:31:26]  And you're like, well, what is it that the right-wingers, quote-unquote, like about Tulsi Gabbard?
[01:31:32]  Because there's only one thing that we like about her.
[01:31:35]  It's not her Grand New Deal.
[01:31:38]  Well, right, but I'm saying it's for one, it's for one specific reason.
[01:31:41]  It's because she opposes most of these wars.
[01:31:46]  And why is being anti-war all of a sudden considered all these what she calls regime change wars for my brothers and sisters?
[01:31:57]  Right.
[01:31:58]  You just say I'm anti-war, but uh, she's against regime change wars for her brothers and sisters.
[01:32:03]  She's against aiding al-Qaeda.
[01:32:04]  She's one of the only candidates to actually go.
[01:32:06]  She said, this is so funny.
[01:32:08]  She went on with Steve Colbert and said, Yeah, well, in 2011, the CIA was arming Al-Qaeda, right?
[01:32:14]  That's a congresswoman admitting that our government aided Al-Qaeda.
[01:32:17]  And Stephen had nothing to say, just, you know, I just went after butchem assault, you know, that kind of stuff.
[01:32:24]  But another reason I think they like her is she's the only one grown up on immigration.
[01:32:29]  She's like, no, we should not give free health care to illegals.
[01:32:32]  Yes.
[01:32:32]  Yeah.
[01:32:32]  No, she's not.
[01:32:33]  It should not be a radical position, right?
[01:32:35]  Like, I think that's part of it too.
[01:32:36]  But it's mostly that, yeah, she doesn't want to go start these wars.
[01:32:40]  But I would say a lot of the far right are not opposed to the wars because they have sympathy for people in Syria and Iraq and Libya.
[01:32:48]  They just don't like the resulting refugees going to Europe.
[01:32:51]  No, I agree.
[01:32:52]  I'll still take that as a win.
[01:32:53]  I'm like, hey, if you're in the forewar, well, no, look, and they also, look, I agree with you.
[01:32:58]  I'll take it.
[01:32:59]  It's better than being pro-war by a million miles.
[01:33:01]  But it's also the fact that they feel like Israel is like duping us into these wars and American boys go and die to do Israel's fighting for them.
[01:33:10]  So I.
[01:33:11]  No, no, listen.
[01:33:13]  I think there is a lot of truth to that.
[01:33:15]  That being said, even if that is the case, the main reason why I'm against the wars is because of the innocent people slaughtered in those countries.
[01:33:23]  But what animates the far right about the wars, what gets them more upset about it, is the Israel angle and the refugee angle.
[01:33:31]  But like you said, some of them say Israel.
[01:33:34]  They say the Jews, not Israel.
[01:33:37]  Well, it's not every refugee.
[01:33:39]  I think some of the technology also just don't want to kill people.
[01:33:42]  I think that it's a little bit of all that.
[01:33:44]  But there are people on the left that are just like Bernie Sanders saying Assad must go.
[01:33:50]  Everyone should look up Bernie Sanders to the woodshed.
[01:33:53]  If you're one of these people, because I feel like a lot, it's weird.
[01:33:57]  There are a lot of Bernie supporters, just like there were a lot of Obama supporters who were generally anti-war.
[01:34:03]  And like they sort of bestow this image onto the person that doesn't match their record or reality whatsoever.
[01:34:11]  It's kind of like whatever is psychologically gratifying.
[01:34:13]  Obama would say, I'm for hope and change.
[01:34:15]  I'm like, oh, yeah, here's the changes in hope I want.
[01:34:18]  I want to end these wars.
[01:34:19]  I want to do this.
[01:34:19]  And of course, he just started new ones, right?
[01:34:22]  Bernie Sanders is he supported every war from Kosovo to Syria with the exception of the Second Iraq War, which he still voted to finance three times, you know?
[01:34:31]  Right.
[01:34:32]  Dron Strikes, he was for that when Obama did it.
[01:34:34]  He's only been against it when Trump did it.
[01:34:36]  He turned on Saudi Arabia, not because of the war in Yemen.
[01:34:39]  He had seven years to open his mouth and didn't say anything.
[01:34:42]  It's when they bought weapons from Russia that then they decided, oh, you're bad, right?
[01:34:47]  A full-on Russia gator, all that.
[01:34:49]  And so it's this weird, I don't know, I don't know what to call it.
[01:34:55]  It's something's really strange that there are people who are generally looking for an anti-war candidate, don't latch on to the actual ones, and then sort of project all that image onto someone that doesn't match what they're saying at all.
[01:35:09]  Yeah.
[01:35:10]  They did it with Bernie and they did it with Obama.
[01:35:13]  Well, and it happens with politics in general.
[01:35:15]  I mean, on different issues, it happens with Trump too when people say he's playing fork and chess or like some of this other stuff.
[01:35:23]  Trump's got to stop censorship online and he's going to immigration.
[01:35:28]  And it won't even be like in some issues, it won't even be what he's saying.
[01:35:32]  I mean, I've heard people who believe in free trade saying he's just using the tariffs to get more free trade and like all these other things.
[01:35:38]  You're like, that's not even what he's saying he's doing.
[01:35:41]  It's anyway.
[01:35:42]  Listen, I do, we got to wrap up because I'm over time and I got to.
[01:35:45]  We just need people to make better deals.
[01:35:47]  That's it.
[01:35:47]  Yes, that's what we're doing.
[01:35:48]  Man, everyone needs to hear libertarianism better.
[01:35:51]  Yeah, we need very smart people to make very good deals.
[01:35:54]  Trump is tremendous and huge.
[01:35:56]  I really, really enjoyed this conversation.
[01:35:58]  We're going to have to do this again if you're willing to, because I'm sure there's a lot more stuff that we could talk about.
[01:36:03]  I know people have been asking.
[01:36:04]  I'm going to ask you a show just on the Epstein stuff.
[01:36:06]  All right.
[01:36:07]  People who asked for someone to go on your show, too.
[01:36:10]  I'm like, I will.
[01:36:10]  I'm fine with that.
[01:36:11]  How do I reach them?
[01:36:12]  All right.
[01:36:13]  Well, I'm glad we connected.
[01:36:14]  I'm going to talk about you on Twitter.
[01:36:15]  All right.
[01:36:16]  I'm glad we were able to connect and let people know if they want to check out more of your stuff, where you're still allowed to be or where they can go look you up.
[01:36:23]  Really, I have a YouTube, but it's sort of like 98% self-censored right now because I don't want to risk losing it.
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[01:36:37]  Right now, we're making a film about the New Mech Affair in Apollo, Pennsylvania, where uranium was stolen from the United States to build nuclear bombs overseas.
[01:36:45]  So we're working on that film.
[01:36:46]  If you want to pitch in and you can get all the daily stories, although tomorrow, the next day, I probably won't update.
[01:36:54]  Unfortunately, I have a family issue to go deal with in the United States.
[01:36:58]  But yep, ANCReport.com has got all the links.
[01:37:01]  And I really appreciate you having me on the show.
[01:37:03]  And I'd love to come back once we're all sorted out.
[01:37:05]  And happy Thanksgiving to everybody.
[01:37:07]  Yeah.
[01:37:08]  Well, thank you very much.
[01:37:08]  We'll definitely do it again.
[01:37:10]  Happy Thanksgiving to you and to everybody listening.
[01:37:12]  All right.
[01:37:13]  That's our show for today.
[01:37:14]  Thanks, guys.
[01:37:15]  Enjoy your holidays.
[01:37:16]  And we'll be back on Friday.
[01:37:18]  We got Michael Heiss from the Libertarian Party Mises Caucus coming on on Friday.
[01:37:23]  So that should be a fun show.
[01:37:24]  All right.
[01:37:24]  Have a good one.