Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - Lying To Liars
Aired: 2019-11-16
Duration: 01:21:48


=== Government Too Big (11:11) ===

[00:00:00]  Fill her up.
[00:00:02]  You are listening to the Gash Digital Network.
[00:00:07]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:00:09]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:00:11]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:00:15]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:00:20]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:00:25]  You're listening to part of the problem on the Gash Digital Network.
[00:00:29]  Here's your host, Dave Smith.
[00:00:33]  What is up, everybody?
[00:00:35]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:00:40]  I am the most consistent motherfucker you know, Dave Smith, and I am reunited.
[00:00:44]  Joined once again by Robbie the Fire Bernstein, the king of the caulks.
[00:00:48]  What's going on, my brother?
[00:00:49]  Nice to be back, dude.
[00:00:50]  Good to have you back.
[00:00:51]  Yeah.
[00:00:52]  AIDS AIDS.
[00:00:54]  AIDS hiatus.
[00:00:55]  I tried a new word there.
[00:00:56]  It didn't really work.
[00:00:57]  No, it's cool.
[00:00:57]  You got to throw some things out.
[00:00:58]  Never know what's going to stick.
[00:01:00]  But you are in violation of your 100-episode contract.
[00:01:02]  I am?
[00:01:03]  You are.
[00:01:03]  Yeah.
[00:01:03]  Am I back to episode to episode now?
[00:01:05]  Is that a clause?
[00:01:06]  Jesus.
[00:01:06]  I don't know.
[00:01:07]  We have to go to arbitration.
[00:01:08]  We got to figure out.
[00:01:08]  I worked so hard for that, Dave.
[00:01:10]  You really did.
[00:01:11]  You really did.
[00:01:12]  I don't know.
[00:01:12]  We'll see.
[00:01:12]  We'll see what happens.
[00:01:14]  I ought to talk to my legal team and see if I don't know if I can wiggle out of this concept.
[00:01:17]  It's unfucking believable.
[00:01:21]  Your honor, my client had an AIDS-related illness, and they're trying to pull his job out from under.
[00:01:27]  We're going to have a real Philadelphia situation on our hands.
[00:01:30]  Remember that movie?
[00:01:31]  No, I never actually saw it.
[00:01:32]  Yeah.
[00:01:33]  It's considered a classic, though.
[00:01:34]  People really like Tom Hanks with AIDS.
[00:01:36]  Yeah, it was very groundbreaking in the 90s.
[00:01:39]  AIDS was all the rage.
[00:01:41]  AIDS was all the rage.
[00:01:42]  What was I talking about recently with that?
[00:01:44]  Oh, it was the 90210 episode.
[00:01:48]  Were you on that podcast or was it me alone doing that one?
[00:01:51]  It might have been me making AIDS jokes when you weren't on the show, but it was me and Lauren.
[00:01:55]  Lauren was like, had never seen 90210.
[00:01:57]  And I was like, you've never seen the show?
[00:01:58]  I was like, okay, let's throw one on.
[00:02:00]  And it was an AIDS.
[00:02:02]  And the episode is this person, this woman with AIDS comes to speak to the kids.
[00:02:07]  And they're all like, oh, my God.
[00:02:08]  And the message of the 90s was more or less like, look to the person on your left.
[00:02:13]  Look to the person on your right.
[00:02:15]  They will both die of AIDS.
[00:02:16]  So will you.
[00:02:17]  Have you ever kissed a girl?
[00:02:18]  Well, then you already have it.
[00:02:20]  So what's the point of even time?
[00:02:21]  Like the propaganda was so like insane.
[00:02:24]  And then they were basically like, all these idiots think that AIDS is just a disease that affects gay people.
[00:02:30]  Well, everyone's going to die from it.
[00:02:32]  And then it turns out that it's like whoever that guy was who said it's just gay people, he was a lot closer to the truth than you were at all.
[00:02:39]  Like if you just had some bigoted impulse to be like, yeah, this is probably only something gays need to worry about.
[00:02:44]  Like, yeah, pretty much.
[00:02:45]  Pretty much.
[00:02:46]  That's how that's how it went down.
[00:02:47]  Just gays and Rob.
[00:02:49]  All right.
[00:02:50]  So for today's episode, because we haven't done this in a while, I figured we would just take a bunch of listener questions, comments from the part of the problem inner circle.
[00:03:00]  Those rascals.
[00:03:01]  Those rascals, they're a good group.
[00:03:03]  They're a good group, and they have nothing else except this.
[00:03:07]  If I didn't take their questions, I don't know what they would do.
[00:03:09]  Their whole weekend, they'd just be pondering these things.
[00:03:11]  That's right.
[00:03:12]  These are the people who will start committing mass shootings if you don't take their questions every now and then.
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[00:04:12]  There are a couple things that I did want to talk about, but I have a feeling they're going to come up in the questions.
[00:04:16]  So let's get into them.
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[00:04:20]  All right.
[00:04:22]  Here we go.
[00:04:23]  Sergei says, or Sergei?
[00:04:26]  Sergei.
[00:04:27]  That's what I want to say.
[00:04:28]  Sergei says, witness tampering and obstruction of justice via tweet.
[00:04:33]  This is what I posted was, what do you guys want to hear us talk about today?
[00:04:37]  Just so it doesn't sound like these people are just saying like sentence fragments that don't work.
[00:04:42]  Anyway, I like bullet points.
[00:04:43]  Witness tampering and obstruction of justice by via tweet.
[00:04:48]  So what he's referring to is that now they're accusing Donald Trump of bashing witnesses on his Twitter account because he's been tweeting through the impeachment inquiry hearings.
[00:05:02]  You know, like when the witnesses are full of shit and one woman who was a witness was like saying she felt intimidated by his tweets or anything like that.
[00:05:10]  Well, look, I mean, obviously, there's probably two points that I would have to this.
[00:05:14]  The first one is just obvious that it's like, yeah, no.
[00:05:19]  Like even Donald Trump, I think today said, I have the right to speak, which is just a, it was very Trumpian.
[00:05:24]  Just this very simple like statement that everyone gets up in arms about, but then you're like, I mean, can you really argue with the fact that he has the right to speak?
[00:05:33]  This is like what you can accuse someone of wrongdoing and they can't defend themselves.
[00:05:38]  They're not allowed to.
[00:05:39]  So yeah, of course, it's not obstruction of justice or witness badgering to say something.
[00:05:44]  Like, yeah, you have the right to talk.
[00:05:47]  And I, you know, I would hope that that's like, let's just look at it this way.
[00:05:51]  If the president of the United States doesn't have the right to speak, what hope do the rest of us have?
[00:05:55]  All right.
[00:05:56]  And isn't the idea that we're all, we all have freedom of speech?
[00:05:59]  That was one of the amendments.
[00:06:01]  I can't remember which one, but isn't that one of the amendments in the Bill of Rights?
[00:06:04]  I'm pretty sure it's top.
[00:06:05]  Yeah, they should have led with that.
[00:06:07]  And there's, and you could kind of see why that, there would be a reason.
[00:06:11]  I mean, I'm not a constitutionalist, but you could see where if you were writing a Bill of Rights, freedom of speech kind of makes sense to be number one.
[00:06:19]  Like number one, right away.
[00:06:21]  I got the right to say whatever I want to say.
[00:06:23]  Number two, I can have a gun.
[00:06:25]  I do love that order.
[00:06:27]  It's not going to be like sixth or seventh, like don't fuck your neighbor's wife.
[00:06:30]  It's going to be right at the top of the list with the important stuff.
[00:06:32]  Yeah.
[00:06:33]  That's actually the 18th Amendment that you're referring to.
[00:06:35]  Barely got ratified.
[00:06:37]  Barely got ratified.
[00:06:38]  I had trouble making it out of Virginia.
[00:06:40]  Anyway, so the first thing is like, obviously, this is ridiculous.
[00:06:44]  Like, yeah, he can tweet whatever he wants to.
[00:06:46]  It's like when they said that him tweeting that the Russia investigation was a witch hunt was in some way obstruction of justice.
[00:06:54]  I mean, it's a real mind fuck to actually think that through.
[00:06:58]  It'll like hurt your head enough that you're like, I can't even argue with these people.
[00:07:01]  But that you would go, we're investigating you for something, which we concluded.
[00:07:05]  We have no evidence to indict you on.
[00:07:08]  But when you said that was, this was bullshit, that's obstructing justice.
[00:07:12]  And that's what we're going to move to now.
[00:07:14]  Like, holy shit, that's a mind fuck.
[00:07:18]  And of course, it's all ridiculous.
[00:07:19]  But then the second point is that there's kind of a bigger thing going on here, which is like, you know, when I was playing, I played last episode on the show again that Chuck Schumer quote when he said the deep state has seven ways to Sunday to screw you.
[00:07:36]  And what he was saying, I actually took it back a little bit in the video because it's funny to see him go from his talking points to getting something and having an impromptu reaction to it.
[00:07:46]  But his talking point at the time was, you know, January 2017, Trump was still president-elect.
[00:07:53]  And his talking point was, well, you can't be president by tweet.
[00:07:57]  And I remember back when I was on a SE Cup show when they would talk about that.
[00:08:00]  They would say, I remember actually saying this on air, but at one point where they're like, you know, don't you think Donald Trump should be working on his health care plan or this or that and the other instead of spending all his time tweeting?
[00:08:11]  And I said, I was like, well, I don't think, I think that's a false choice.
[00:08:14]  Like, I don't, I don't think he spent 12 hours tweeting.
[00:08:17]  It usually takes me about, I don't know, 40 seconds to formulate a tweet and send it.
[00:08:21]  So I don't think it's either this or figure out.
[00:08:23]  But you wonder, you're like, why are they all so hostile about Donald Trump using Twitter?
[00:08:29]  They really hate that.
[00:08:31]  They really, really don't like that Donald Trump is on Twitter all the time.
[00:08:36]  And you're like, why?
[00:08:37]  I mean, I don't know.
[00:08:38]  There's some tweets that I don't like of his.
[00:08:39]  There are some tweets that are really great.
[00:08:41]  There are some that are hilarious.
[00:08:42]  There are some that are just riddled with misspellings.
[00:08:45]  But why is it that they have such a problem with this?
[00:08:47]  And of course, you guys already know what it is, right?
[00:08:50]  It's obvious.
[00:08:51]  It's because he's speaking directly to you.
[00:08:54]  He doesn't have to go through them.
[00:08:55]  See, normally, what does a president have to do?
[00:08:58]  He's got to talk to the media and they'll air the interview and they'll ask him the questions they want to ask.
[00:09:04]  That's what the fucking corporate press, that's like, that's our role.
[00:09:07]  We get to decide what you people hear and what you people know.
[00:09:11]  And Donald Trump now found a way to just go, nope.
[00:09:14]  I'm going to go right around you directly to the people and just cut you out.
[00:09:19]  And they hate that.
[00:09:21]  They absolutely hate it.
[00:09:22]  It drives them crazy.
[00:09:23]  And so that's what's at the heart of all of this is that it's like they do not like the idea that we can cut them out and have a direct relationship to somebody, like a direct relationship to the president of the United States.
[00:09:37]  And especially with a guy like Donald Trump.
[00:09:39]  See, they didn't mind with Obama so much.
[00:09:41]  I mean, first of all, Obama didn't really play that game that much.
[00:09:44]  Social media is much bigger under Trump than it was.
[00:09:46]  Social media was a brand new phenomenon under Obama.
[00:09:49]  But also, Obama was like, you know, I had this joke in my act where I would say Obama, anytime he was asked a question, he would always take a long pause and like think about it.
[00:10:02]  Like they'd be like, Obama, what do you think about blah, blah, blah?
[00:10:03]  And you go, well, first of all, I think it's important, you know, and Donald Trump answers your question before you're done asking your question.
[00:10:12]  Like you're like, are we going to end the war?
[00:10:13]  He's like, you're fake news.
[00:10:14]  And like moves up.
[00:10:15]  Like he's just, Donald Trump is impulsive and you can't control that guy.
[00:10:20]  So you don't know what the fuck he's going to say.
[00:10:22]  So you better have some fucking ABC reporter there to fucking be in the middle of him talking in you.
[00:10:29]  Because if Donald Trump can talk right to people, Donald Trump might say something crazy.
[00:10:33]  Like, there's a deep state that's out to get me.
[00:10:35]  Or these wars are stupid.
[00:10:37]  Or the media is the enemy of the people or any of this shit.
[00:10:40]  So that's what they don't fucking like.
[00:10:42]  And they want to take that away from him.
[00:10:44]  Why do you think fucking Kamala Harris is out there talking about how Twitter should ban Donald Trump?
[00:10:51]  What a crazy thing.
[00:10:52]  You know, she said that.
[00:10:53]  She brought that up at the presidential debate last time.
[00:10:55]  That Twitter should ban Donald Trump.
[00:10:57]  It's like, but he's still the commander in chief of the military, right?
[00:11:00]  It's like, yeah, but it's hate speech.
[00:11:02]  He shouldn't be allowed on Twitter.
[00:11:03]  Like, what?
[00:11:04]  So now you just want us to not know what the most powerful person, supposedly, the most powerful person is doing?
[00:11:10]  Seems a little strange.

=== Taking Away Free Speech (16:07) ===

[00:11:12]  But yeah, that's anyway.
[00:11:15]  All right.
[00:11:15]  Jonathan writes, Frankfooters.
[00:11:19]  Seems like your department, Rob.
[00:11:21]  More hot dog talk?
[00:11:22]  What about there's nothing else?
[00:11:23]  Just the word frank footers.
[00:11:25]  Frankfooters?
[00:11:25]  What about them?
[00:11:26]  They're giving me a lot to work with here, buddy.
[00:11:27]  Well, he's not asking if they're a sandwich or anything.
[00:11:29]  He's just saying, Frankfooters?
[00:11:31]  Your thoughts.
[00:11:32]  But we've talked about hot dogs a lot.
[00:11:33]  Throw on some sauerkraut and mustard to get the fuck out of here.
[00:11:36]  Yeah, that is the best way.
[00:11:37]  Sauerkraut and mustard.
[00:11:38]  And I don't even like hot dogs that much.
[00:11:39]  I don't really like hot dogs that much.
[00:11:40]  It's like sometimes there's a situation you're in.
[00:11:45]  Like a ball game.
[00:11:45]  Yeah, a baseball game, maybe like a park.
[00:11:48]  Like if you're out at the park and someone with like one of those movable carts comes by with a hot dog, you're like, fuck yeah.
[00:11:53]  Like, I might go two years without eating a hot dog.
[00:11:57]  Yeah.
[00:11:57]  But then, you know, like, you'll be in one of those moments and you'll be like, fuck yeah.
[00:12:00]  Sauerkraut and mustard on a fucking hot dog.
[00:12:03]  That sounds fucking great right now.
[00:12:04]  With a beer?
[00:12:05]  Yeah.
[00:12:06]  But it's got to be like the right time.
[00:12:08]  Like, you know, if I came home and my wife was like, I'm making hot dogs for dinner.
[00:12:13]  I'd be like, what the fuck is this marriage?
[00:12:15]  Are we that poor?
[00:12:16]  Making hot dogs for dinner?
[00:12:18]  We lose everything?
[00:12:20]  I got to log on to the bank account.
[00:12:22]  I got to log on to my fucking bank app because unless we lost everything, this marriage is over.
[00:12:28]  I better see negative $7 in my account or we got to fucking talk.
[00:12:33]  Or we got to start talking about who's taking Layla for Christmas.
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[00:13:56]  Jason writes, Tommy Boy versus Black Sheep.
[00:14:01]  Ooh, I love it.
[00:14:02]  Okay, well, let me say that.
[00:14:04]  It should be an easy one.
[00:14:05]  This is an easy one.
[00:14:06]  This is an easy one.
[00:14:07]  And if you don't agree with me on this one, I may not want you to listen to my podcast anymore.
[00:14:11]  Let me just say, I love both of those movies.
[00:14:14]  So you're asking me to compare two things.
[00:14:16]  Don't make, I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm anti-black sheep, okay?
[00:14:19]  Love black sheep.
[00:14:20]  Got some great, fucking, great jokes in that movie.
[00:14:24]  But Tommy Boy is quite possibly the best comedy movie that's ever been made.
[00:14:30]  It is damn near fucking perfect.
[00:14:33]  Every fucking scene of Tommy Boy is the funniest scene in a movie.
[00:14:38]  Like, it's just perfect.
[00:14:40]  And there's no disputing this.
[00:14:42]  By the way, I'm having dinner with Kevin Farley next week, I believe.
[00:14:46]  That's cool.
[00:14:47]  Kevin Farley's a great guy.
[00:14:48]  Real great guy.
[00:14:51]  Michelle, his girlfriend is like good friends.
[00:14:53]  Me and Lauren, and the four of us are going out for dinner.
[00:14:56]  Kevin's a great guy.
[00:14:57]  I really enjoy hanging out with him.
[00:15:00]  But yeah, Tommy Boy is my favorite comedy ever.
[00:15:02]  So that's just not.
[00:15:04]  There's no one's funnier than Chris Farley.
[00:15:06]  No one's ever been funnier than Chris Farley.
[00:15:08]  No one will ever be funnier than Chris Farley.
[00:15:09]  He's just the funniest human being on the planet.
[00:15:12]  And it's not like a formula that anyone else could ever imitate.
[00:15:17]  It's just he's his own entity, his own thing.
[00:15:21]  It's fucking, it's funnier than stand-up comedy.
[00:15:23]  It's funnier than the funniest guy you know.
[00:15:25]  It's just, it's Chris Farley, right?
[00:15:27]  Obviously, you agree with me.
[00:15:29]  Tommy Boy over Black Sheep.
[00:15:30]  Yeah, 100%.
[00:15:31]  But the two movies are almost like Tommy Boy is the better version.
[00:15:35]  It's almost like twins and they're both hot, but Tommy Boy for some reason is way hotter.
[00:15:39]  Yeah.
[00:15:39]  So like they're both great movies.
[00:15:40]  They almost pair well together.
[00:15:42]  There's a similar flow, but Tommy Boy is just the bit, like Black Sheep's like good, but Tommy Boy's amazing.
[00:15:47]  But here's the thing, right?
[00:15:48]  It's also like, if they had never made Tommy Boy, you'd probably look at Black Sheep and go, that's one of the best comedies that's ever been made.
[00:15:56]  But they made Tommy Boy and then followed it up with Black Sheep.
[00:15:59]  And you're like, oh, good.
[00:16:01]  Really fucking funny.
[00:16:02]  Like really great scenes.
[00:16:03]  But you'll never, it's tough when that duo made Tommy Boy to ever follow that with something else.
[00:16:09]  And it was, Black Sheep was really funny.
[00:16:11]  Was really funny.
[00:16:12]  No doubt.
[00:16:13]  He's a great writer.
[00:16:13]  He also wrote Joe Dirt, the first one, which I love.
[00:16:16]  The first Joe Dirt was fucking hilarious.
[00:16:18]  Great movie.
[00:16:19]  A Fred Wolf.
[00:16:20]  I think that's the guy's name.
[00:16:21]  I will say I think David Spade is one of the most underrated fucking comedians ever.
[00:16:27]  He's fucking great.
[00:16:28]  He's a really great stand-up, too.
[00:16:30]  I haven't watched much of his new show.
[00:16:32]  But you forget how prolific his career is because he had sitcom after sitcom.
[00:16:37]  I think he had three sitcoms back to back.
[00:16:39]  And he was good at all of it.
[00:16:41]  There was never anything that he wasn't good on.
[00:16:43]  And he was, Chris Farley was so funny that a lot of people be like, oh, Farley kind of like carried David Spade.
[00:16:51]  But David Spade was great in all of those movies.
[00:16:54]  Like he's always really fucking great.
[00:16:55]  Really, really, really funny, dude.
[00:16:58]  Anyway, okay.
[00:17:01]  Hunter writes, Jim Jordan needs some untuckets.
[00:17:06]  Right.
[00:17:06]  Okay.
[00:17:07]  So this is in reference to there was an article in, oh, here.
[00:17:10]  Did you post it?
[00:17:11]  Yeah, it was an article in the Washington Post.
[00:17:13]  That he needs a jacket.
[00:17:14]  Yeah, like he's so, him and Ratcliffe or whatever, the absolute, they're the two best at this on the conservative side for sure.
[00:17:23]  Yeah, but Jim Jordan's the best.
[00:17:25]  I think that Ratcliffe guy is pretty good.
[00:17:26]  But anyways, they're so good at it.
[00:17:28]  I didn't even notice that he wasn't wearing a jacket.
[00:17:30]  And if anything, his rolled-up sleeve look makes him like more interrogating.
[00:17:35]  I love it.
[00:17:36]  Yeah.
[00:17:37]  It's like, dude, if you could just go your whole life and just never get grilled by Jim Jordan on something, you've come out ahead.
[00:17:44]  And if Jim Jordan's ever grilling you on something, you should probably just admit to it right away.
[00:17:48]  You're just like, all right, you're really right.
[00:17:50]  Was he a prosecutor prior to being a good person?
[00:17:52]  My guess is he was a lawyer.
[00:17:54]  I mean, because most of them are, but I don't know that much about him or his past.
[00:17:58]  I really only know him from these hearings and from his cable news appearances.
[00:18:02]  But he's very, very sharp guy.
[00:18:04]  Very sharp.
[00:18:05]  And he does a great job.
[00:18:06]  He almost always, at these congressional hearings, gets the best soundbite, the best moment, breaks the fucking window.
[00:18:13]  He was the one who was like, this is the star witnesses after this is the bet.
[00:18:18]  This is the first witness.
[00:18:19]  This is the best that you guys are going to bring us.
[00:18:20]  And he's like, I might be mixing him and Ratcliffe.
[00:18:23]  No, I played it.
[00:18:24]  No, you're right.
[00:18:25]  It's Jim Jordan.
[00:18:25]  And I played the clip last episode.
[00:18:27]  I mean, that was to me the biggest moment of the whole hearings where he just breaks it down for you in a way where he goes, okay, okay.
[00:18:33]  So there's these 52 days where the military aid is being withheld.
[00:18:36]  You meet with the Ukrainians three times during this period.
[00:18:38]  It's never comes up.
[00:18:40]  It never comes up.
[00:18:41]  There's no linkage of this being withheld.
[00:18:43]  And the guy's like, well, for the first two meetings, they didn't even know it was being withheld.
[00:18:47]  And you're like, whoa, they didn't know.
[00:18:48]  You know, it's like, just break down these points.
[00:18:50]  I was thinking my analogy on the last show was I said it's like if you're accusing someone of kidnapping someone for ransom and then you find out that they never made the ransom demand and also that the people they were making Making the ransom demand for didn't even know the person was kidnapped.
[00:19:03]  And you'd be like, this kind of throws a wrench in the hole.
[00:19:07]  The two things about the witnesses that really didn't pass my bullshit test or really flag my bullshit radar was one, when they were talking about how important it was to get this aid to the Ukraine because they're at war with Russia.
[00:19:20]  Instantly, you kind of channeled to me, oh, you're on that propaganda side that really wants to play up how dangerous Russia is and that people were going to die if they didn't get this aid.
[00:19:28]  I just know that that's not true.
[00:19:30]  So the second you start with those talking points, I'm like, oh, somebody fed this to you.
[00:19:33]  You're on that team.
[00:19:34]  The second thing is when they were being asked harsh questions, they kept trying to reframe it where they go, I get your question, but let me readdress why I'm here today.
[00:19:43]  And I'm like, well, then you're not just here to give testimony.
[00:19:46]  You're actually here to try and move the impeachment agenda forward, which tells me you're not here just to give testimony.
[00:19:51]  You're actually playing for a side.
[00:19:53]  Which is obviously what this thing was from the beginning.
[00:19:55]  I mean, the whistleblower himself went to Schiff's staff or to shift.
[00:20:01]  It's not clear, but right?
[00:20:02]  Like, this has been a partisan thing from the beginning.
[00:20:04]  And not even partisan.
[00:20:05]  I shouldn't even use that term.
[00:20:06]  That's like what the corporate press calls it, but it's not partisan.
[00:20:11]  It's establishment versus Trump.
[00:20:14]  It's the deep state versus Trump.
[00:20:15]  But that's what this has been the whole time.
[00:20:17]  I was listening to your episode, and you were talking about, I mean, you can hold a magnifying glass to any element of basically politics and you're going to find corruption.
[00:20:25]  So this is just a ridiculous thing to hold the magnifying glass and say, hey, this is crazy.
[00:20:30]  What I would love to see them unwind is, and Trump has done this, I think, three times now, where he goes to a country and he goes, hey, we worked out a trade deal.
[00:20:37]  And then you look at the trade deal and it's like, well, Raytheon gets to sell 300 million's worth of planes and General Electric.
[00:20:43]  It's like, there was no trade deal.
[00:20:45]  You didn't open up trade.
[00:20:46]  You went and you represented private companies.
[00:20:49]  I want to know, let's see that collusion between you and the head of Raytheon where Lockheed Martin that their planes are being sold.
[00:20:56]  Why is the president selling planes for Lockheed?
[00:20:58]  Like, I want to, we want to entangle something interesting in foreign policy and private organizations manipulating government.
[00:21:05]  Let's have a congressional hearing on that one.
[00:21:07]  I want to know how these trade deals are being put together.
[00:21:09]  I would love to, here's the thing, and this is my biggest problem with what I call, and lots of people call, but the reason why I use the term the Trump derangement syndrome is that it's like, I would love to look at any, like what you just said, that's a great example.
[00:21:24]  Any real subsidiary issue of government corruption.
[00:21:29]  The problem is that the anti-Trump people rely on this narrative that Donald Trump is so much worse than anything that came before him.
[00:21:40]  And all the stuff you're talking about is going to indict the whole system.
[00:21:45]  And that's something they don't want to do.
[00:21:47]  Because what they're still thinking, their mindset, right?
[00:21:50]  The establishment's mindset, which I think is, I think they're absolutely wrong about this.
[00:21:54]  But you know what?
[00:21:55]  Let's not underestimate them because they have been ruling us for quite a while.
[00:21:59]  So these people are pretty savvy.
[00:22:01]  But their idea, clearly, is that this Donald Trump thing is an aberration.
[00:22:07]  And as soon as he gets out of there, we get back to business as usual, get back to normal.
[00:22:11]  I tend to think the toothpaste is out of the tube.
[00:22:14]  This is something we're in a new era now.
[00:22:17]  But they might be right.
[00:22:18]  I might be wrong about that.
[00:22:20]  But so they just want to get him out of there.
[00:22:21]  So they don't want to indict the whole fucking system.
[00:22:24]  They're trying to go right back to business as usual after Trump.
[00:22:26]  So they've got to rely on this, like, you know, the Brooke Baldwin.
[00:22:30]  Donald Trump has betrayed the sacred, you know, office.
[00:22:34]  Everyone else was really great, but all of a sudden we've got the Antichrist in, you know, the fucking priesthood.
[00:22:40]  Or, you know, sorry, I just go with Christian references that I don't understand that much.
[00:22:46]  All right.
[00:22:47]  Anyway, yes.
[00:22:48]  So I agree with you.
[00:22:49]  I would love to see that be released.
[00:22:51]  I also, listen, I Think there definitely might be some smoke and maybe some fire around the stuff where I look.
[00:23:01]  I uh I, as you guys know who listen to the show, I'm not one who goes for like the mainstream fucking anti-Trump narrative.
[00:23:09]  I don't like Donald Trump at all.
[00:23:11]  I just, you know, I think Donald Trump should be tried for war crimes, specifically for what he's doing in Yemen.
[00:23:16]  But that being said, I ain't siding with the CIA.
[00:23:19]  Like, I don't fucking care.
[00:23:21]  You know, like, that's always like the fucking, to me, the worst of evils.
[00:23:27]  But when Donald Trump is talking about, you know, like having the military stay at Trump resorts and when the Saudis are like...
[00:23:37]  Let them have the nicest.
[00:23:38]  Yeah, when the Saudis are buying, you know, like hotel rooms and shit like this.
[00:23:43]  You're like, ooh, dude, that does, that stinks.
[00:23:45]  I mean, I don't know enough about the details.
[00:23:47]  I haven't looked into it deep enough to like really have a strong opinion, but you're like, yeah, dude, that should not be okay.
[00:23:54]  Again, it's just hard to not point out.
[00:23:58]  What about ism again?
[00:23:59]  We'll hear these guys.
[00:24:00]  But I'm saying, I think it stinks, but it's also like I said, like, so Obama, you know, fucking look at his policies toward the big banks who have these record high profits under Obama, and then he gets $400,000 for a speech at Wall Street.
[00:24:13]  It's like, so everyone has these problems, but those specifically to Trump, they stink.
[00:24:19]  There's a real problem there.
[00:24:21]  Okay.
[00:24:25]  Okay, Mike says, you've talked about the recent changes in your views on abortion and immigration.
[00:24:33]  Not that they've changed your overall philosophy, but a shift in your position.
[00:24:38]  Over time, we can all expect changes in our points of view with different life experiences.
[00:24:43]  Are there any other issues you think you might change your mind on?
[00:24:48]  Also, get Ben Swan on to talk impeachment and Epstein.
[00:24:51]  Yeah, I would love to have Ben Swan on.
[00:24:54]  Ben Swan's fucking great journalist, and I've always been a big fan of his.
[00:24:59]  I would love, love, love to have him on.
[00:25:02]  I don't know him, and I don't know who I know.
[00:25:04]  Tom Woods had him on back in the day.
[00:25:06]  Maybe I could talk to Tom about what it like.
[00:25:07]  Contact info for him.
[00:25:09]  Quit looking at me, Swan.
[00:25:11]  Yes, that's him.
[00:25:12]  Same guy.
[00:25:13]  But he's fucking great.
[00:25:14]  Okay, so, well, I mean, okay, abortion, I changed my mind on that issue.
[00:25:20]  Like, I am pro-life whereas I used to not be.
[00:25:24]  Immigration, I don't know that I even, it's hard to say that I actually changed my mind on the issue because the policy that I would want to see enacted is pretty much the same policy as before.
[00:25:37]  I mean, like, as I've said many times, it's like, you know, end the war on drugs, end the welfare state, privatize everything, and we don't have any problems.
[00:25:45]  I don't know what to tell you.
[00:25:47]  And then crossing private property boundaries is trespassing.
[00:25:50]  So, yeah, you can come if you're invited.
[00:25:52]  You can't come if you're not.
[00:25:53]  Kind of the way everything else runs.
[00:25:55]  That to me would be the best, ideal solution.
[00:26:00]  But I don't know.
[00:26:00]  It's kind of hard to predict what I might change my mind on in the future.
[00:26:05]  I think that you should try your best to always be open to changing your mind on everything.
[00:26:15]  You should always, and I try to act this way.
[00:26:17]  I don't know if I always succeed, but you try to act like you can have your mind changed if a superior argument comes along.
[00:26:30]  And it's a difficult thing for all of us because, you know, like I said, I used to be a left-wing guy, a kid, really, because it's been a while.
[00:26:40]  And then I was convinced by superior arguments.
[00:26:43]  That's why I'm a libertarian now, because I was presented with superior arguments.
[00:26:47]  The issue that comes in, and everybody has to guide, you know, guard against this, I should say, is that now I've become known and have an audience and I'm known as a libertarian.
[00:26:58]  And for me, if I were to change my mind on being a libertarian, more broader issue, then that would mean me admitting to everybody that I've been wrong.
[00:27:08]  And so you have to like realize, you know, we are psychological creatures and we all have these like confirmation bias and cognitive dissidents and all these things that make us want to prove our own point correct rather than adjust.

=== Superior Libertarian Arguments (03:44) ===

[00:27:20]  But all you can do is kind of try to guard against that.
[00:27:22]  But I try to always be open to like if a superior argument comes along, then I would change my mind.
[00:27:31]  I don't know if that's actually true, but I try my best to live that way.
[00:27:34]  And this is part of the reason why I don't like to play the game of like calling people names and shutting down dissenting voices and go like, well, you're a racist.
[00:27:45]  You're not allowed to say that.
[00:27:46]  Or you're a socialist and you're not allowed to say that.
[00:27:48]  I like to have Ben Burgess on the show.
[00:27:50]  I like to have Nick Fuentes on the show.
[00:27:53]  I like to have different people and kind of deal with their arguments because I feel like you have to treat things that way.
[00:27:59]  You have to go like, okay, well, someone is making an argument that challenges my worldview.
[00:28:04]  And I got to be able to hear the argument and respond to it and see if I have a superior argument or not.
[00:28:10]  And, you know, none of them have convinced me yet, but I try to stay open.
[00:28:16]  Besides, like, I mean, I'd imagine you, you know, you like have talked about Rob before, like, reading free market stuff.
[00:28:22]  We did that on the 500th episode.
[00:28:24]  You talked about a lot of the stuff you've read that changed your mind on stuff.
[00:28:27]  But what do you think?
[00:28:28]  Can you think of something recently where you've changed your mind on your outlook of a view?
[00:28:33]  Or basically since becoming a free market libertarian?
[00:28:37]  Not recently.
[00:28:38]  Sandwich related?
[00:28:40]  I can mayo.
[00:28:41]  I've started eating more Mayo recently.
[00:28:43]  Yeah.
[00:28:44]  That's superior argument.
[00:28:45]  I came out as anti-Mayo and then we were talking about what's called, oh my God, I'm retarded right now.
[00:28:53]  You see, it's my love of sandwiches.
[00:28:54]  Sometimes they make me stutter.
[00:28:56]  It takes the words out of my mouth.
[00:28:57]  It's like my hot chick enters the room and you can't speak anymore.
[00:29:00]  Yeah.
[00:29:00]  We were talking about Reuben sandwiches.
[00:29:02]  I mean, you can't eat a Reuben sandwich without like Russian dressing.
[00:29:05]  You're not eating a Reuben sandwich.
[00:29:07]  Yeah.
[00:29:07]  And then after that discussion about Reuben sandwiches on my show, I've been on a Reuben sandwich like kick.
[00:29:12]  I've been Reuben sandwiching like you wouldn't imagine.
[00:29:15]  I love a Russian dressing.
[00:29:16]  Yeah.
[00:29:16]  That doesn't work on everything, but a nice Russian dressing when it's appropriate.
[00:29:21]  When you mix it in with some pastrami and sauerkraut on rye bread.
[00:29:24]  Oh, that's solid.
[00:29:26]  Solid.
[00:29:27]  But I've been enjoying that so much.
[00:29:28]  I feel like I got to revisit Mayo altogether.
[00:29:30]  Because it kind of weirds me out.
[00:29:31]  It's just white.
[00:29:32]  It stays in jars.
[00:29:32]  It's made of eggs.
[00:29:33]  It's not healthy.
[00:29:35]  I've never been a big Mayo guy.
[00:29:36]  I like in certain things, obviously.
[00:29:37]  Like tuna or something like that, obviously.
[00:29:39]  Put some mayo in there.
[00:29:40]  I don't even do mayo on my tuna.
[00:29:41]  I like tuna and olive oil.
[00:29:44]  I could go with that.
[00:29:45]  And then which I very rarely have, but I like mustard on tuna.
[00:29:48]  Oh, that's weird.
[00:29:49]  Yeah, it's a little weird.
[00:29:50]  But it's actually very good.
[00:29:52]  Okay.
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=== Voluntary Currency and Courts (11:23) ===

[00:31:05]  Renita asked about the Snowden interview on Rogan.
[00:31:10]  I think, did I mention this before?
[00:31:12]  I thought it was great.
[00:31:13]  It was really cool that he had him on and he brought up some cool things.
[00:31:16]  I did find him to be a bit dry and kind of...
[00:31:18]  Man, is that very technical?
[00:31:20]  Yeah, very technical and kind of went on.
[00:31:22]  And it seems to me like there were a lot of things he could have just said in shorter spurts, but it was great.
[00:31:27]  It was a great interview.
[00:31:28]  I don't know.
[00:31:28]  Sorry, I don't really have much more.
[00:31:29]  It's been a little while since I watched it.
[00:31:30]  The fact that it was over the phone meant that Rogan couldn't really interject and make it a little bit more concise.
[00:31:37]  So it was super cool that he got a hold of the guy.
[00:31:38]  No, it was an awesome thing to do.
[00:31:40]  And it prompts to Rogan.
[00:31:41]  What's the deal with Snowden?
[00:31:43]  Does he just work for the Russians now?
[00:31:45]  Or do they just let him live there because it makes the U.S. look bad?
[00:31:48]  I believe it's the latter, but who the fuck knows?
[00:31:51]  Because I feel like they must force some information out of him.
[00:31:54]  No, I think that they're, I think they'd be happy for the latter.
[00:31:58]  I think they'd be happy to just be like, oh, no, look, we're putting you up here because he embarrassed the system and it makes them look like the more humanitarian ones and us look like the more brutal state.
[00:32:08]  So I think they're always happy to, you know, the same way we would be happy to give Russian dissidents a free home here.
[00:32:17]  Isn't that funny that that's part of government's self-marketing is that they have to prove to you that they're moral and the other ones are bad?
[00:32:23]  That's the essence of the game.
[00:32:25]  Well, it's right.
[00:32:26]  It goes right to the core of how states operate is that they have to play on fear.
[00:32:33]  So they have to protect you from something else.
[00:32:35]  Oh, the other government that's super.
[00:32:36]  The other government, yeah.
[00:32:37]  That's why, I mean, they've had, in many ways, the Russians back to the days of the Soviet Union and America, the oligarchs of both, have had a mutually beneficial relationship.
[00:32:49]  Like we both get to scare our population into obeying us and demanding, you know, from us.
[00:32:55]  Like that's, you know, that's what people look to a strong man when they're when they're afraid.
[00:32:59]  You look to a fucking leader.
[00:33:01]  And yeah, he might be able to crack all your skulls, but he'll really crack those other motherfuckers' skulls, you know?
[00:33:07]  So yeah, absolutely.
[00:33:09]  All right.
[00:33:09]  Colin asks, how would a currency work in an ANCAP society?
[00:33:15]  Well, Bitcoin is semi-acceptable now.
[00:33:19]  It is nowhere near ubiquitous enough to replace other current dollar, to replace our current dollar.
[00:33:26]  This and courts are places where I can't fully commit to ANCAP yet, as it seems both are more suited to be functional through a voluntary tax via the state.
[00:33:38]  Okay.
[00:33:39]  Okay, so let's start with how currency would work in a market.
[00:33:47]  Whatever the fuck people wanted to use.
[00:33:48]  Well, that is actually the correct answer, right?
[00:33:51]  And to say that Bitcoin is nowhere near ubiquitous enough, well, I mean, that is true, but you can't ignore the fact that there's like legal tender laws and you, you know, your taxes have to be paid in dollars and all of these different things.
[00:34:07]  So it's not as if it's Bitcoin isn't present everywhere just because of market decisions.
[00:34:14]  I mean, who the fuck knows?
[00:34:15]  I mean, there's a long history.
[00:34:17]  Murray Rothbard, you know, wrote a lot about this, but there's a long history of money that wasn't related to the state.
[00:34:22]  And, you know, basically paper money came from banknotes, essentially.
[00:34:26]  And I think it's quite possible it would work that way in the market.
[00:34:31]  It does seem to me that probably technology would be harnessed in free market currency more than just storing gold at a bank and them giving you a note for it.
[00:34:44]  Probably that would be out there.
[00:34:46]  That would be one currency and you would have competing currencies, which might sound a little bit crazy, but honestly, we have competing companies in every other aspect of life.
[00:34:58]  And look, if what you want is a strong, stable currency, which even the Federal Reserve will tell you that's what they want, then what you're going to want is competition in that area.
[00:35:08]  And obviously, currency is something that benefits everybody to have some medium of exchange.
[00:35:17]  So this is something that I think would be figured out very quickly by the market.
[00:35:22]  And I think would obviously be like a far, far better situation than the government having control of currency, which has been pretty disastrous, if you ask me.
[00:35:33]  And as far as courts being run by the government, well, look, I mean, there's a real problem with having, you know, it's a lot of times people get caught up on how would competing courts work.
[00:35:47]  But the first key is to understanding the problem of having a monopoly on the courts.
[00:35:52]  So you say that you think, you know, you're not completely ANCAP yet because you think currency and courts are more functional through a voluntary tax via the state.
[00:36:05]  And now we're kind of in an even footing, like where a lot of people's issue with anarcho-capitalism is they'll say, well, this has never existed.
[00:36:17]  It's never been tried.
[00:36:18]  I want to see a track record of it.
[00:36:19]  But if you're talking about a voluntary tax with a state that doesn't, you know, take taxes via the threat of violence, then we're both on the same ground of something that doesn't exist and hasn't been done, you know, anywhere that you could think of.
[00:36:33]  So, okay, here's to me where you go from believing in voluntary taxation to being an anarcho-capitalist.
[00:36:42]  All right.
[00:36:42]  And this is like believing in a voluntary state is almost like the last step before realizing that you are an anarcho-capitalist.
[00:36:50]  I actually think once you're at that point, you are already an ANCAP.
[00:36:53]  But so if you're going to say the state, basically you're like, we have a night watchman state just like does very, you know, runs the courts and the police or whatever, which you didn't even mention here, but say just the currency and the courts, but it's voluntary.
[00:37:08]  You know, they just ask you to pay taxes, but they don't make you.
[00:37:11]  There's no threat of violence.
[00:37:12]  Like you're not going to jail if you don't pay your taxes, but they ask for the money.
[00:37:15]  And obviously courts and currency isn't all of our benefit.
[00:37:18]  So maybe they could raise the money.
[00:37:19]  It's like, okay, what do you do if someone wants to opt out?
[00:37:24]  What do you do if somebody else, you know, someone else opens up a court business that says we will mediate your disputes?
[00:37:31]  You just have to agree beforehand that you'll settle any disputes that you have with this court.
[00:37:35]  And they're building up a great reputation and doing a better job than your government courts.
[00:37:39]  Are people allowed to opt out or no?
[00:37:41]  Are you going to initiate violence against people simply for wanting to use a different currency or wanting to use different courts?
[00:37:47]  And now you get into how voluntary is it really?
[00:37:50]  Because maybe you're saying the taxes are voluntary, but if you can't, if you're not allowed to form your own system, then you're going to have to force people into yours.
[00:37:59]  And if you are allowed to join another system, then you're an anarcho-capitalist.
[00:38:04]  You're not, it's not a state anymore.
[00:38:06]  You're allowed to leave and it's voluntary.
[00:38:07]  Then that's what, that's literally what being an anarcho-capitalist is.
[00:38:11]  So if you're saying you're forced into it, it's like, all right.
[00:38:15]  So then we're right back to the problem you have with states is that they're going to grow and grow and grow.
[00:38:21]  And the reason is because everyone's forced into it.
[00:38:24]  So it doesn't matter how good of a job they're doing.
[00:38:26]  You have to show up.
[00:38:27]  You have basically what's known as the DMV problem, which is that what are you going to do?
[00:38:32]  Go somewhere else?
[00:38:33]  We're the only game in town.
[00:38:34]  So we don't need to have good customer service.
[00:38:36]  We don't need to do any of these things.
[00:38:39]  And one of the major problems, Hans Hermann Hoppe has written a lot about this, but one of the major problems with government monopoly on courts is that it's not just that the government is the final arbiter of disputes between people, right?
[00:38:54]  The government is also the final decision maker on disputes between people and the government, right?
[00:39:02]  So right away, you've got a pretty big conflict of interest.
[00:39:04]  And would you believe it, when the government... gets to resolve disputes between people and the government, it has this tendency to side with the government.
[00:39:14]  And this is a big reason why governments grow bigger and bigger and bigger.
[00:39:18]  I mean, think about this, right?
[00:39:19]  We have a Constitution, the Constitution of the United States of America.
[00:39:23]  And the way the system is designed is you have this, the Constitution is not very hard to read.
[00:39:28]  If any of you guys want to read it, it's a small little book.
[00:39:30]  You can get through the whole thing.
[00:39:31]  It's really not that complicated.
[00:39:33]  It's, you know, it's a little bit of old-timey language, but it's actually pretty easy to follow.
[00:39:37]  It's not like a tough read.
[00:39:38]  It's not like dense, like, oh shit, this is, I really got to sit down and learn.
[00:39:41]  This is pretty straightforward.
[00:39:44]  And a bill of rights and all this shit.
[00:39:46]  And the way the system is designed, right, is like you have three co-equal branches of government.
[00:39:51]  You have the legislative branch.
[00:39:53]  They get to write the laws.
[00:39:54]  There's this whole system of how they get the laws through and how the democratic process of how, you know, they get elected, even though the Senate was supposed to be state appointed.
[00:40:04]  And then you have the executive branch, which, you know, enforces the laws and also can veto any of the laws.
[00:40:11]  And then you have the Supreme Court, which is basically just a check on the whole thing because they're just a fucking court that says, no, Sorry, this is unconstitutional.
[00:40:22]  So I don't care if Congress and the executive branch both agreed on this.
[00:40:26]  Sorry, it's not constitutional.
[00:40:29]  And yet, look at where we are.
[00:40:31]  Look at where we are today.
[00:40:33]  Every goddamn last one of the Bill of Rights is being violated like crazy.
[00:40:39]  Like crazy.
[00:40:41]  I mean, Congress shall write no law to abridge the freedom of speech.
[00:40:47]  You know how many laws there are about things that you can't say?
[00:40:51]  And then you have fucking, under Wendell, what's his name?
[00:40:55]  Fuck, blanking on his name, but the no, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
[00:40:59]  Then you have Woodrow Wilson is out there arresting people for passing out anti-war pamphlets.
[00:41:05]  And they go, well, I mean, there's got to be some reasonable limits on speech.
[00:41:08]  It's like, oh, wow, I can't believe this court.
[00:41:10]  I can't believe this government monopoly court sided with the government.
[00:41:14]  This is the problem that you get into.
[00:41:15]  This is the problem with minarchism.
[00:41:17]  It's like just, it's just like saying like, well, we're just going to keep a little bit of this cancer.
[00:41:21]  And it's like, right, but you real, this is what cancer does.
[00:41:24]  It grows and grows and grows.
[00:41:26]  And that's going to be your problem.
[00:41:27]  So no, I mean, the idea of like the more time I've spent in this anarcho-capitalist mind space, the more I realize that it's like the things that Jesus, it's like, you know, it's funny that there'll be like a like nobody, even Bernie Sanders probably, isn't saying like the government needs to like, you know, make computers and, you know, t-shirts or sneakers or anything like that.
[00:41:53]  Like even he won't be advocating that.
[00:41:55]  But then the most radical minarchists like like Colin here will say, you know, I'm like NCAP all the way, but I just think the government needs to do like the currency and the courts.
[00:42:05]  I'm like, holy shit, those two things are way too important to do.
[00:42:08]  God damn, those are the two things I want the government out of like almost as much as anything.
[00:42:13]  You don't want them running your money and the courts.
[00:42:15]  That's giving them the whole game.
[00:42:17]  Like I'd rather they do the fucking computers and sneakers than fucking do the fucking currency and the courts.
[00:42:23]  That's that's so powerful.
[00:42:25]  Was that old, I forget who said it?

=== Radical Minarchist Advice (07:54) ===

[00:42:28]  Some, I forget who said it, but maybe it was a Rothschild.
[00:42:32]  I don't know.
[00:42:32]  But he said, give me control of a nation's currency and I care not who writes the laws.
[00:42:37]  You know?
[00:42:38]  If you were going to either be in charge of Congress or the Federal Reserve, you got a lot more power being in charge of the Federal Reserve.
[00:42:45]  You could bring the whole country to its knees tomorrow.
[00:42:47]  You can literally move mountains economically speaking.
[00:42:50]  Like, you know, you can blow up bubbles, tear down bubbles.
[00:42:54]  It's, you know, it's the power that comes from that is just, you know, ungodly.
[00:43:03]  All right.
[00:43:04]  Casey writes, how to possibly combat the media bias which holds most people hostage and blind to this country's real problems, other than your podcast, of course.
[00:43:19]  Well, that's, you know, I don't know.
[00:43:22]  People ask these questions a lot.
[00:43:23]  It's like, I guess I would be doing it if I had some other, you know, answer to it.
[00:43:27]  It seems like to me that the internet and this podcast is one little drop in that, you know, ocean.
[00:43:36]  But yeah, it's like calling them out at every turn and trying to open as many people's eyes as you can.
[00:43:42]  I don't know.
[00:43:42]  I mean, I agree with you on the problem that the media bias holds so many people hostage and blind.
[00:43:49]  But I guess one of the good things is that more and more people really are not buying that shit.
[00:43:55]  I don't know.
[00:43:56]  I don't believe like history is predetermined or anything like that.
[00:44:00]  I think it's kind of like what people fight for it the hardest and the most effectively are the ones who are going to win.
[00:44:08]  So I don't know.
[00:44:10]  Maybe it's to get Donald Trump up there calling him the enemy of the people.
[00:44:14]  Maybe that's the way.
[00:44:16]  I don't know.
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[00:45:53]  All right, Eric writes, my wife and I are having our first baby in March.
[00:45:58]  I'm looking for some fresh advice from a new dad.
[00:46:01]  What you got?
[00:46:02]  Don't drop it.
[00:46:03]  A lot of times it comes out all bloody and people are like, I want all my kid right away.
[00:46:06]  Let them clean it off first so that it's grippy.
[00:46:09]  That's a rookie mistake people make it.
[00:46:12]  Also, umbilical cords, you don't want to keep them.
[00:46:14]  Like sometimes you're there, you're like, hey, it's novelty.
[00:46:18]  I'm only going to be having one kid once.
[00:46:20]  Maybe I'll jump rope with it down the line.
[00:46:23]  Don't be hoardery like that.
[00:46:24]  You don't need the umbilical cord.
[00:46:26]  You let them keep it.
[00:46:28]  This is all great advice, but keep in mind, Rob has lost all five kids that he's had.
[00:46:32]  So he's, it's.
[00:46:33]  And that's the point.
[00:46:35]  So I still have sandwich money.
[00:46:36]  That's what I'm doing right.
[00:46:37]  And none of those were abortions.
[00:46:38]  They were all natural causes.
[00:46:40]  So, you know.
[00:46:41]  All just lost them the old-fashioned way.
[00:46:43]  Yeah.
[00:46:44]  Fucking can't find them.
[00:46:45]  And there's a thin line between rocking a baby and shaking a baby.
[00:46:49]  But you got to, you really want to practice that with the doctor before you leave the hospital.
[00:46:52]  You want to get that one down.
[00:46:53]  Very good.
[00:46:54]  You don't want to be going home.
[00:46:55]  Do they actually make you watch a video about not shaking your baby?
[00:46:59]  And then you have to sign a form that you watch the video.
[00:47:03]  Me and Lauren made it like 30 seconds into the video and then we just signed the form.
[00:47:07]  Yeah, you're like, I mean, no, no, no.
[00:47:08]  We watched the whole thing.
[00:47:08]  I might be admitting to a felony.
[00:47:10]  No, no, no.
[00:47:10]  We watched the whole thing.
[00:47:11]  Here's a really good thing around.
[00:47:12]  But it's so, you're really like, are you, do you really think you need to tell me not to shake my baby?
[00:47:17]  Like, yeah.
[00:47:18]  No, we kind of, we put two and two together.
[00:47:19]  Here's a really important one.
[00:47:20]  Sometimes pacifiers aren't cutting.
[00:47:22]  You're putting that pacifier on the kid's mouth and he's still crying.
[00:47:24]  The mom's not around.
[00:47:25]  Just put your titty in that mouth.
[00:47:26]  I know no milk is coming out, but it will get a kid to calm down.
[00:47:29]  They won't be crying.
[00:47:31]  They think they got authentic titty.
[00:47:32]  And that's not molestation.
[00:47:34]  It would be weird.
[00:47:34]  This is weird and bad advice, but more weird than anything else.
[00:47:38]  Well, let me say to Eric, first of all, congratulations.
[00:47:42]  Congratulations to you and your wife.
[00:47:44]  It is an amazing, amazing journey that you're about to go on, man.
[00:47:50]  And I'll tell you this, no matter how much you think, you overthink it or what advice you get, nothing's going to fucking prepare you for it.
[00:47:57]  It's one of those things you got to just fucking, you got to just jump in that pool in the deep end and it'll be great.
[00:48:03]  It's matter of those things.
[00:48:04]  I'm not going to sleep much.
[00:48:05]  Well, that would be probably my number one piece of advice.
[00:48:08]  Sleep now.
[00:48:09]  Sleep now.
[00:48:10]  Enjoy that because you're fucking, you're done as far as sleep goes after this.
[00:48:14]  I mean, some people have better situations than others, but you know what?
[00:48:18]  Don't even worry about it.
[00:48:19]  You fucking adjust to it.
[00:48:20]  It's like, this is what people have been doing for all of human history, and they've done it in far more difficult circumstances than me and you are doing it in.
[00:48:27]  So just don't even overthink it.
[00:48:29]  It's going to be, you know, it's really going to be amazing.
[00:48:32]  Here's what I'll say.
[00:48:32]  Pieces of advice.
[00:48:33]  Number one, don't bother reading too much about pregnancy.
[00:48:37]  Pregnancy is going to be over before you know it.
[00:48:39]  Read about baby stuff now.
[00:48:41]  This is a mistake I made.
[00:48:43]  When Lauren was pregnant, I got obsessed about reading everything about pregnancy.
[00:48:48]  And like, I was really into fucking like reading and learning everything, what you're supposed to do and all this dumb shit.
[00:48:52]  I got all this information about pregnancy that I don't fucking need.
[00:48:56]  And I didn't need any of it.
[00:48:58]  And then I was like, I'll read all about babies and stuff like that once the baby's born.
[00:49:01]  But you know what?
[00:49:01]  Got a lot less time to read once the baby's born.
[00:49:03]  Start reading all the stuff you want to read, finding all the information about babies now while she's pregnant.
[00:49:09]  Because basically, your wife and her fucking OBGYN, they can handle all the pregnancy shit.
[00:49:14]  You don't really need to worry about that.
[00:49:17]  The thing is, you know, just that you want to, you're going to have a baby.
[00:49:21]  That's like the real permanent thing.
[00:49:23]  And if you have any question when your wife's pregnant, you can just call her doctor and you handle that.
[00:49:27]  Or at her next doctor's appointment, you talk to them about what you're thinking.
[00:49:30]  Like, oh, can she eat this?
[00:49:31]  Can we have this?
[00:49:32]  Blah, blah, blah.
[00:49:33]  All that stuff they'll handle.
[00:49:34]  But with the baby, you kind of got to figure it out yourself.
[00:49:36]  I mean, it's not, you can't like call your baby's doctor with every little question that you have.
[00:49:40]  Like, I mean, the big ones, but not everything.
[00:49:43]  That's like on you.
[00:49:44]  They just let you go from the hospital and then you got to figure it out on your own.
[00:49:49]  I'll say this.
[00:49:51]  It's, I don't know if this even false.
[00:49:54]  Like, there's, there's all these like little pieces of advice that I could give, but it's like boring.
[00:50:00]  That's a good one.
[00:50:01]  You definitely want to stick around.
[00:50:02]  You don't like look at it and just go, hey, I'm out of here.
[00:50:05]  That's not cool.
[00:50:06]  That is almost certainly going to have negative effects on your kid.
[00:50:09]  Like when you change a diaper, you want to hold both their legs with one hand and you want to get a fresh diaper under right after you pull the dirty diaper out because otherwise that can be a whole mess.
[00:50:20]  You know, there's a lot of little technical things like this.

=== Navigating New Parenthood (10:29) ===

[00:50:22]  But I'll say this.
[00:50:23]  It is the most amazing thing you can do.
[00:50:28]  At least in my experience.
[00:50:30]  Just the greatest, most amazing thing.
[00:50:32]  And my daughter's coming up on a year old now.
[00:50:34]  And I can't even tell you how much better it gets.
[00:50:37]  Like, it just gets better and better and better.
[00:50:41]  And, but it's not, just like anything in this world, the yin and yang, nothing that great is easy.
[00:50:49]  It's really, really, really hard.
[00:50:51]  And it's not all glamorous.
[00:50:53]  There's some really difficult parts to being a parent, being with your wife while she's pregnant.
[00:51:00]  But it's all worth it.
[00:51:01]  And I would just say to remember that.
[00:51:04]  That's probably the thing that comes to my mind the most.
[00:51:08]  But again, congratulations to you and your wife.
[00:51:10]  That's really awesome.
[00:51:11]  I'm happy for you guys.
[00:51:14]  Okay.
[00:51:15]  Congratulations, Eric.
[00:51:16]  Cale writes Snowden on Rogan.
[00:51:18]  We kind of already did that.
[00:51:19]  Jimmy asks, what are your thoughts on Oliver Stone?
[00:51:24]  Busted.
[00:51:25]  I like that guy.
[00:51:27]  Huh?
[00:51:27]  Busted.
[00:51:28]  Oh, I'm thinking of Roger Stone.
[00:51:30]  Roger Stone, which I'm, did no one ask about Roger Stone yet?
[00:51:33]  I was almost sure somebody would.
[00:51:36]  How do we get this far?
[00:51:36]  We'll go to that too.
[00:51:38]  Oliver Stone, Oliver Stone.
[00:51:40]  He made Wall Street and we were watching that documentary with Putin, right?
[00:51:44]  That guy?
[00:51:45]  He made the document.
[00:51:45]  Oh, that's right.
[00:51:46]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:51:46]  We watched that together.
[00:51:47]  I forgot.
[00:51:48]  That was really good.
[00:51:49]  He did a docuseries.
[00:51:52]  I think it might have been on Netflix.
[00:51:54]  I can't remember, but it was about the history of America.
[00:51:56]  That was really, really good.
[00:51:59]  Really excellent.
[00:52:00]  And he made JFK and he's made a whole bunch of other movies.
[00:52:03]  I mean, he's a great, you know, he's a bit of a lefty and a bit of like, you know, he's a little bit soft on the commies and stuff like that, but he's like fucking, he is, he's woke on the war question for sure.
[00:52:16]  And I think he's like a fascinating dude.
[00:52:18]  So I'm a fan.
[00:52:19]  I like what he does.
[00:52:21]  He's not a dude who's going to fall into like, you know, whatever the like today's Hollywood talking points are about why Donald Trump's so evil.
[00:52:29]  You know, like he'll kind of a guy who gets like what's really evil about our state and government and media and all that shit.
[00:52:35]  So I think he's great.
[00:52:36]  Big fan.
[00:52:37]  I thought the movie JFK was awesome.
[00:52:39]  I didn't see that.
[00:52:39]  And yeah, it was great.
[00:52:41]  And I really, really liked his docuseries.
[00:52:48]  Fuck, did I can't remember what it's called?
[00:52:53]  But it was interesting.
[00:52:54]  And his interview with Putin was really good.
[00:52:56]  It was really interesting.
[00:52:58]  I mean, more interesting and thought-provoking and enlightening than like anything out of the basic bitch, you know, mainstream media.
[00:53:07]  All right.
[00:53:08]  Jose writes the riots going on in Chile and Ecuador, where there seems to be a connection to Cuba and Venezuelan influence.
[00:53:16]  Also, the coup in Bolivia and the fact that although the CIA was involved, it actually seems like the people wanted it.
[00:53:24]  You know, I got to read up a little bit more about the stuff in Chile and Ecuador.
[00:53:29]  I mean, I read a little bit about what's going on in Chile.
[00:53:32]  I don't know.
[00:53:33]  I just have to read more and formulate my thoughts on it more.
[00:53:36]  The shit in Bolivia is straight up a CIA coup.
[00:53:39]  And that's, you know, I would be very, very skeptical about, you know, going like, oh, well, it looks like the people wanted it.
[00:53:50]  It's like, yeah, that's their job is to sell it that way and make it look that way.
[00:53:53]  And even if the people did want it, you know, sometimes people want things that are, that's a bad idea.
[00:53:57]  You know, they had a coup in Honduras, and that's been a disaster for like the migrant crisis into America and stuff.
[00:54:07]  So, you know, it's like there's, there's almost always negative unintended consequences to these things.
[00:54:13]  And so I'd be very, very skeptical to be on board with any of it.
[00:54:19]  Sorry, I just don't, I got to do more homework on that one to have a better, to have a better answer for you.
[00:54:25]  Derek simply writes, Owen Benjamin.
[00:54:28]  I love Owen.
[00:54:30]  I don't know what else to say.
[00:54:31]  I love Owen.
[00:54:32]  Love him.
[00:54:33]  He's a great fucking dude, a good friend.
[00:54:36]  I miss him.
[00:54:37]  I know he's fucking real happy out there on that farm with his kids and his wife, and I'm really happy for him.
[00:54:43]  But I miss him.
[00:54:45]  I liked when he was closer and he would pop into the city more often.
[00:54:49]  Owen, to me, he's like, you know, I used to watch so much more of his shit, and a lot of that's just having a kid.
[00:54:55]  I just don't have as much time to fucking watch, you know, people on YouTube or whatever.
[00:55:00]  Or he's got his... what unauthorized dot TV, I think is his thing now.
[00:55:05]  But I just don't, you know, I don't have as much time to spend on that stuff now that I got the kid.
[00:55:13]  But Owen's a guy who's always, every time I watch him, he always makes me laugh and makes me think.
[00:55:18]  And I appreciate that.
[00:55:20]  And it's, it's, he really, you know, he, he gets such a reaction out of so many people, which I always find to be a little bit strange.
[00:55:29]  Like, even if you think, like, even if you think someone's wrong about something, if you are getting so like wound up over it, you got to examine that a little bit and be like, what is it about this guy that's like getting you so worked up?
[00:55:43]  But I, it's literally, Owen just, I love him as a dude.
[00:55:46]  He's, he's just a great guy.
[00:55:47]  We've always been good friends.
[00:55:49]  And every time I watch his stuff, it makes me laugh and makes me think.
[00:55:53]  And, you know, I appreciate him as a person.
[00:55:57]  You know, he might be, you know, was the Michael Malice line about he goes, you're supposed to take one red pill, not the whole bottle.
[00:56:08]  He might be a little bit guilty of taking the whole bottle.
[00:56:11]  But he may have taken one too many red pills.
[00:56:14]  But, you know, I love Owen.
[00:56:16]  He's a good friend.
[00:56:21]  All right, Mike.
[00:56:23]  Have you ever seen this anti-socialist communist cartoon from the 1940s?
[00:56:28]  I think it's worthy of a breakdown on an episode, Make Mind Freedom.
[00:56:33]  I think I did see this.
[00:56:35]  I think I have seen this.
[00:56:37]  I'd have to watch it again to see if I had enough to say about it to play it on a podcast.
[00:56:42]  But I think if it's the one where the guy's selling the elixir thing that says ism on it, and they're talking about like the American way of life, then I have seen it.
[00:56:51]  Yeah, it's pretty cool.
[00:56:53]  All right.
[00:56:55]  All right.
[00:56:56]  Patrick writes, you've met a great girl, but she leans slightly left.
[00:57:01]  Do you fucking chuck or try to make something meaningful of it?
[00:57:07]  Well, I mean, if she's a great girl, then try to make something meaningful out of it, right?
[00:57:12]  I mean, first of all, you know, you said she's great and you said she leans slightly left.
[00:57:19]  Yeah, don't let that fuck with you.
[00:57:21]  If she's great, then fucking try to see if you can make something work out of it.
[00:57:25]  I think, look, there's, to me, again, this going, man, this is getting sappy with the kid stuff and now this.
[00:57:32]  But say, I think, dude, if you can find somebody who's really great for you, who you're really great for, that's like just about the best thing you can do.
[00:57:41]  You know, I'm somebody, I was single for a long time.
[00:57:44]  I was never like a big relationship guy before I met my wife.
[00:57:48]  I wasn't involved in many serious relationships.
[00:57:51]  And life is way better when you have someone who has your back and you have their back and you're like a part of a team.
[00:57:58]  It's just way better.
[00:57:58]  So I would never tell you to like not pursue someone who you think is great because they lean slightly left.
[00:58:06]  And there's also different varieties of left, so I don't exactly know what that means.
[00:58:09]  Now, if someone's like a hardcore feminist or a hardcore social justice warrior, that might be like you got to judge if their case is terminal or not.
[00:58:19]  Because if you've got, if you've got terminal feminism, that might just be impossible.
[00:58:23]  Like it's an ideology that if you are that religiously, you know, What's the word devoted to?
[00:58:31]  That might be, there might be no way to have a healthy relationship with someone like that, but lean slightly left, like, yeah, whatever.
[00:58:37]  Fucking, and the other thing is that I do think for the most part, speaking in general terms, you know, broad patterns, this isn't true for every case, but for the most part, women look for leadership qualities in their man.
[00:58:56]  Like they, they look to you to be the fucking leader.
[00:58:59]  And you see this all the time with women who kind of become a lot like their current boyfriend and then have a new boyfriend and become a lot like that boyfriend.
[00:59:08]  So be the fucking leader in that relationship.
[00:59:12]  And who knows?
[00:59:13]  You might tilt that leaning slightly left right out of her.
[00:59:17]  Bring her back over.
[00:59:18]  Bring her back over to the light or the darkness.
[00:59:23]  Okay.
[00:59:25]  You've dated girls who lean to the left, I'm sure, Rob.
[00:59:28]  No?
[00:59:29]  I haven't read.
[00:59:29]  They don't read.
[00:59:31]  Girls who date don't read.
[00:59:33]  I haven't dated much.
[00:59:35]  But yeah, if it's too, if it, if it ventures into that camp where this is, I would say this is the line for me.
[00:59:43]  I have a, I'm an idiot, and my sense of humor is that I say obnoxious things.
[00:59:49]  And if that's not funny of you, we're not going to get along.
[00:59:52]  And so that's a pretty quick way for me to screen.
[00:59:54]  It's not even like a political bias.
[00:59:56]  I can just tell you, I've hung out with some women who probably are very liberal, but they kind of get the way that I'm kidding.
[01:00:02]  And so we can get along.
[01:00:04]  But like, if I make an offensive joke and like you're policing me or saying, hey, you can't use that word, we're just not, I'm not going to get along with you.
[01:00:12]  That was like since I've been in comedy, that was always something where I was like, oh, that's a deal breaker for me.
[01:00:17]  Like it's just like, oh, if you're not like, if you're not, I think I told that to some girl once, like years ago, it's like 2004 or something like that.
[01:00:24]  I made some joke and she got offended.
[01:00:25]  I think it was like we had like hooked up a couple times and I made some joke and she got offended.
[01:00:30]  And I was like, oh, we just shouldn't talk anymore.
[01:00:32]  And she was like, what?
[01:00:33]  What do you mean?
[01:00:33]  And I was like, oh, like, if that bothered you, we should not talk again because I'm not going to stop.
[01:00:38]  And this is going to be a thing.
[01:00:39]  And I don't want to deal with that thing.
[01:00:41]  And then she got right in line and was like, oh, no, no, no, it's okay.
[01:00:44]  It's not a thing.
[01:00:44]  But a lot of times it's like if you kind of just lay that down, like, oh, yeah, I'm not budging on this.
[01:00:49]  So you can either deal with it or not.

=== Lying in Congress (15:15) ===

[01:00:52]  That's, you know, got to be the man.
[01:00:54]  All right.
[01:00:54]  Anyway.
[01:00:55]  And then, you know, was it?
[01:00:57]  And look at me.
[01:00:58]  13 years later, I found my wife.
[01:00:59]  So there you go.
[01:01:00]  Just follow that path.
[01:01:02]  All right.
[01:01:03]  And my love of sandwiches is better than ever.
[01:01:05]  You know, it's been long running and it just, that the well goes deeper and deeper.
[01:01:09]  It's give and take.
[01:01:10]  You know?
[01:01:11]  All right.
[01:01:11]  So BM, which I don't know if that's your real name, writes, Roger Stone.
[01:01:17]  Well, there you go.
[01:01:18]  Came right up.
[01:01:18]  And if Heshy Sox work well with Vaseline.
[01:01:21]  Now that is BM.
[01:01:23]  Now I'm really starting to question that name and whether that isn't.
[01:01:26]  You know, I wish I had done my research on that one.
[01:01:29]  I feel like that's a question I should have been able to answer for these guys.
[01:01:32]  They are a longtime sponsor and I would not want to implicate them in any unflattering light.
[01:01:36]  So let's just talk Roger Stone.
[01:01:37]  Yeah, man.
[01:01:38]  Soft McCott.
[01:01:40]  Well, that's true.
[01:01:41]  You may not even need the Vaseline, honestly.
[01:01:43]  And your dick will be antimicrobial.
[01:01:45]  All right, enough.
[01:01:47]  Roger Stone.
[01:01:48]  That is a fucking, it's a mind fuck.
[01:01:51]  So Roger Stone got convicted, I think, of six or seven counts.
[01:01:54]  It was a quick-ass trial.
[01:01:56]  Two days, the jury deliberated.
[01:01:58]  Came back with a guilty verdict.
[01:02:02]  And the guy that took it all the way to trial, from the little bit I read, doesn't seem like he had that much of a plan.
[01:02:08]  No witnesses.
[01:02:08]  Didn't take the testimony.
[01:02:10]  He was just really gambling.
[01:02:12]  I guess that they weren't going to come up with any evidence.
[01:02:15]  And he went down swinging, which is dumb because the way prosecution works.
[01:02:21]  So he got convicted basically of lying to Congress and some other, you know, bullshit charge.
[01:02:28]  But that's the same bullshit that is with everyone.
[01:02:30]  So the final charge was lying based off of the fact that he was being investigated in a fake investigation.
[01:02:37]  It wasn't for any crime that was committed other than lying while being investigated.
[01:02:42]  That's what he's going down for.
[01:02:43]  Yeah.
[01:02:44]  And what did he even lie about?
[01:02:45]  I wasn't even that clear about that.
[01:02:48]  I think it was something to do with his, I guess, connection to WikiLeaks.
[01:02:52]  I don't even quite know what the lie was.
[01:02:54]  Yeah, it was lying to Congress and obstructing a congressional committee proceeding.
[01:03:03]  Read that sentence again.
[01:03:04]  Obstructing.
[01:03:05]  Obstructing a congressional committee proceeding.
[01:03:09]  Yeah.
[01:03:09]  I mean, it's just, you know, it's fucking rough.
[01:03:11]  I remember, so I interviewed Roger Stone on this show.
[01:03:14]  If you sign up, you can, it's out there in the archives.
[01:03:17]  And I asked him at one point if he was scared.
[01:03:21]  I asked him, and this is way before they indicted him or anything like that.
[01:03:25]  But it was obvious that he was one of the people that they were looking at.
[01:03:28]  And I was like, dude, are you like, does this scare you?
[01:03:30]  Like, you got some real fucking dangerous, powerful people, and you're in their crosshairs.
[01:03:37]  Like, you're talking about the fucking CIA, the NSA, the fucking FBI.
[01:03:42]  These motherfuckers want you, you know, like, does that scare?
[01:03:45]  And he gave some Roger Stonian answer.
[01:03:48]  Like, he was like, other people don't, he goes, I don't fear other people.
[01:03:51]  I put fear into other people, you know, something like that.
[01:03:54]  I was like, all right.
[01:03:56]  Dude, if they auction off some of his suits, some of his pinstripe, double-breasted suits.
[01:03:59]  Oh, yeah, no, he's got some, he's got some great suits, but that is, it's really just, whew, it's scary, man.
[01:04:04]  They'll go after someone like that.
[01:04:06]  And what is, look, what is the real crime that he did?
[01:04:08]  That they helped Trump get elected.
[01:04:10]  Yeah.
[01:04:10]  And they and they actually took down a lot of the team that helped get Trump elected, which is very much anti-freedom.
[01:04:16]  You know this because so many people like could go to jail for lying to Congress.
[01:04:21]  Some real powerful, important people like Clapper and Brennan and fucking all these people could go to jail for lying to Congress.
[01:04:28]  I mean, I remember even when Mueller was testifying in front of Congress, do you remember where he had the two?
[01:04:34]  He had basically was in two sessions and he started his second session with correcting the record from his first session.
[01:04:40]  He goes, well, I said this, but that was actually inaccurate.
[01:04:42]  It was this, this, and this.
[01:04:43]  And you're like, oh, so I guess you lied to Congress, right?
[01:04:47]  I mean, it's like any of these people could go down, but they don't.
[01:04:50]  They chose to take Roger Stone down.
[01:04:53]  And so, you know, whew.
[01:04:57]  It's like, so why do they really take that guy down?
[01:05:00]  It's clearly.
[01:05:00]  Right.
[01:05:01]  And that's it.
[01:05:01]  It's because he convinced Donald Trump to run for president.
[01:05:04]  He convinced this guy to run against the entire system.
[01:05:07]  The fuck do you think you're doing?
[01:05:08]  So here, we'll punish you and let anybody else know who's thinking about doing that.
[01:05:12]  Like, this is what you're going to deal with.
[01:05:14]  And that is part of, you know, this, this whole Trump moment that we're living through is that they're letting you know, if not just to Donald Trump, they're sending a real message to anybody who would theoretically help another candidate in this situation.
[01:05:29]  Yo, we will fucking, we will come after all of you motherfuckers.
[01:05:34]  And I'm sure that has like an effect.
[01:05:39]  Excuse me.
[01:05:40]  So, you know, there's definitely something to be said for that.
[01:05:45]  By the way, just what is, how much does that play into my point I was making earlier?
[01:05:49]  Like, wouldn't you think the First Amendment would protect your right to lie?
[01:05:55]  You can go to jail for lying?
[01:05:57]  I thought there was freedom of speech.
[01:05:59]  I thought you could say whatever you wanted to say and the government couldn't prosecute you for it.
[01:06:04]  Well, now evidently they can prosecute you if they determine that what you said wasn't right.
[01:06:08]  Yeah.
[01:06:08]  I sent, by the way, you know what's really interesting.
[01:06:10]  I sent you an article from Alan Dershowitz, who almost all the time I disagree with, but he had an interesting article.
[01:06:17]  Well, he's been good on the Russia stuff and the impeachment stuff.
[01:06:19]  Yeah.
[01:06:20]  He had an interesting point, which was that it's in the Constitution they have a right to a fair trial, but if they create prosecutional standards that basically you're penalized for going to trial, it's kind of a violation of that right.
[01:06:33]  And if you look at the system, that is the way they do it.
[01:06:35]  They set it up with extreme penalties because they essentially want you to settle because going to trial is a risk, which it is a system where you're penalized for going to trial.
[01:06:45]  And they try and say, no, no, no, we're rewarding you for not making us go through the hassle, but that's really not the way it's constructed.
[01:06:51]  Yeah, it's bullshit.
[01:06:52]  I wonder if they'll, I guess, shed more light on that or maybe bring it to the Supreme Court because it is a backward system.
[01:06:58]  It's a corrupt system.
[01:06:59]  Oh, 100%.
[01:07:01]  And also that they'll make the penalties so harsh.
[01:07:04]  That you take 25 years, but listen, I'll help you out here.
[01:07:08]  Yeah.
[01:07:08]  Oh, I've argued with conservatives about this.
[01:07:10]  I remember arguing with Ben Ferguson about this, where, you know, I was talking about one point, like, what the, I forget what the laws were.
[01:07:18]  Maybe it was drug laws or something like that.
[01:07:19]  But where the punishment would be like 10 years in jail for like an ounce of fucking drugs.
[01:07:27]  I'd be like, this is insane.
[01:07:28]  And he'd be like, yeah, but no one gets 10 years in jail for it.
[01:07:31]  And you're like, yeah, but that's the whole fucking thing that's so insane.
[01:07:34]  So all these people get two years, but the whole reason they basically don't get a fair trial, because you're some fucking 25-year-old, you have an ounce of drugs on you.
[01:07:43]  And then it's like, well, you're looking at 10 years in jail, which is basically your life is ruined.
[01:07:48]  Like, you'll never be the fucking same.
[01:07:50]  So then it's like whatever deal they hand you, you just have to take.
[01:07:54]  If someone says, well, no one gets that.
[01:07:56]  So are you agreeing that this is stupid?
[01:07:58]  Right.
[01:07:58]  Then why do we have a law?
[01:07:59]  Why should that law be there?
[01:08:00]  Shouldn't the punishment for a crime be what you want someone to get who commits that crime?
[01:08:06]  I mean, this is your holy justice system.
[01:08:08]  Right.
[01:08:08]  Right.
[01:08:08]  Oh, it's just, it's fucking, it's, it's a real outrage.
[01:08:12]  And I got to say, you know, I mean, I don't know Roger Stone, but like, like, I mean, I don't know him well, but I've met him, and it's just a weird thing to meet someone and then see them go down like this.
[01:08:20]  And who can, this is the fucking thing.
[01:08:23]  Like, I'm sure that guy was corrupt his whole career.
[01:08:25]  Yeah, I'm sure.
[01:08:26]  But it just stinks that he cares.
[01:08:28]  You're looking, listen, man.
[01:08:30]  And this is where I'm still the same bleeding heart fucking libertarian that I've always been.
[01:08:34]  And I just don't get how anybody, anyone who fucking, but you know, it's like there's, I don't know.
[01:08:40]  I come across people who argue, you know, that you should hit your kids and argue like all this fucking like shit to me that I'm just like, how does any decent civilized person argue this?
[01:08:48]  How does any decent civilized person argue that we should throw a human being in a cage?
[01:08:54]  Like fucking take away their life for someone who didn't do anything violent.
[01:08:59]  There's no victim involved in this.
[01:09:01]  Like how do you argue that that person should live in a cage?
[01:09:04]  An older guy, was he in his late 60s or something like that?
[01:09:08]  He should go fucking live in a cage, maybe die in a cage.
[01:09:11]  I don't know how long they're going to fucking do it.
[01:09:12]  Like this is what you do to a fucking animal.
[01:09:15]  And we could have a debate over whether it's okay to do that to animals or not.
[01:09:18]  But you just throw a human being in a cage because they like said something they're not supposed to say to Congress?
[01:09:26]  Lying to Congress?
[01:09:28]  Lying to a bunch of people who got their jobs by lying?
[01:09:31]  Who lie for a living?
[01:09:33]  The fucking, it's like, what type of fucking thing?
[01:09:35]  You got a good joke out of that.
[01:09:36]  It's really funny.
[01:09:37]  Yeah.
[01:09:37]  The idea of lying to Congress.
[01:09:39]  Roger, if you're out there, I'm happy to wear your suits and bang your wife.
[01:09:42]  So, you know, she doesn't have to be lonely and your suits don't have to just hang in a closet.
[01:09:46]  I'll help you out.
[01:09:46]  I'm here for you, buddy.
[01:09:47]  It's really cool of you, bro.
[01:09:50]  If only everyone could step up the way Robbie the Fire Bernstein steps up when someone's in a pinch.
[01:09:56]  All right, hold on.
[01:10:00]  All right.
[01:10:01]  Jeff writes Turning Points, new president, Nick Fuentes.
[01:10:08]  I don't know.
[01:10:08]  You probably haven't followed any of this drama.
[01:10:10]  It seems like the type of thing you don't get on board with.
[01:10:12]  But so Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk is like the head of it, and he's been going around giving speeches, and he's just getting fucking heckle.
[01:10:24]  Heckle doesn't even begin to describe it.
[01:10:27]  From the videos I've seen, it's like fucking Nick Fuentes' people are like, he does a question and answer segment, and all the questions come from them.
[01:10:37]  Like every one of them.
[01:10:38]  They're just fucking bombarding him with like this fucking America first chance and stuff.
[01:10:43]  And yeah, no, it's been, I don't know, it's been pretty entertaining to watch.
[01:10:47]  And Charlie Kirk is like, you know, it's funny because he'll be like, you know, he's talking about like the culture war, and then he's like, kind of like, you know, talking about how, you know, like America is so great and Israel is so great because they protect LGBT rights.
[01:11:04]  And like their whole audience is like, well, fuck LGBT rights.
[01:11:09]  We don't give a fuck about that.
[01:11:10]  We're conservatives.
[01:11:11]  I thought we're fighting a culture war here.
[01:11:13]  And like, so there's just, he's just getting fucking relentlessly abused by them.
[01:11:17]  But he's, you know, I don't know.
[01:11:19]  The whole thing's been entertaining.
[01:11:20]  I don't know.
[01:11:20]  I'm sure it's been good for Nick Fuentes' visibility and profile.
[01:11:28]  But then at the same time, I think he's making some powerful enemies.
[01:11:31]  So watch out.
[01:11:32]  That guy might be the next one to be deplatformed.
[01:11:34]  So he's got to fucking be careful in navigating through this whole system.
[01:11:39]  But it is interesting.
[01:11:40]  I've watched a few of the fucking videos online and stuff.
[01:11:42]  And I saw Ben Shapiro gave a speech basically about Nick Fuentes, but didn't like say his name through the whole thing.
[01:11:49]  And I thought it was just, it was weak.
[01:11:51]  His arguments were very weak.
[01:11:53]  Ben Shapiro is like, he's really great at debating, you know, fucking 19-year-old leftists who believe there's 72 genders.
[01:12:01]  But whenever it comes to like anything more substantial than that, I just, I find him to be fairly unimpressive.
[01:12:08]  Okay.
[01:12:09]  Andrew says, please talk about what's going on with the LP dropping Maj Ture's keynote speaker and him leaving the LP.
[01:12:16]  I'll bet you could get Heiss on the phone short notice to run it down for you.
[01:12:20]  So I did, I talked about this a little bit on the last episode.
[01:12:23]  I've spoken to both Michael Heiss and Maj on the phone since this whole thing happened.
[01:12:29]  And yeah, you know, I just, I gave my thoughts on it on the last episode.
[01:12:33]  It's, you know, I think Maj is great and everything he's doing is great.
[01:12:36]  I hope he sticks with the party.
[01:12:38]  Either way, he's not going anywhere.
[01:12:40]  And it's, and fuck these dorks at the LP.
[01:12:44]  They got to go.
[01:12:45]  We're taking this bitch over.
[01:12:47]  So sorry.
[01:12:48]  You guys got to go.
[01:12:49]  And the revolution will continue without you.
[01:12:54]  Or you can just be some small role and keep your mouth shut.
[01:12:57]  Those are your options.
[01:12:59]  Or Rob Bernstein will fuck your wife and wear your suits.
[01:13:02]  Yeah, that's what I'm here for.
[01:13:03]  So how you want to play.
[01:13:04]  King of the cost.
[01:13:05]  How you want to play this?
[01:13:07]  All right.
[01:13:09]  The Groper War?
[01:13:11]  I don't know what that is, Paul.
[01:13:12]  What's your take on the Groper War?
[01:13:14]  I don't.
[01:13:15]  I'm not familiar with the term.
[01:13:17]  Sorry, guys.
[01:13:18]  Listen, I have to explain this to people sometimes.
[01:13:21]  I'm 36 years old.
[01:13:23]  I'm a husband and a father.
[01:13:25]  I don't know new terms and I have no interest in learning them.
[01:13:29]  I'm supposed to be out of the loop.
[01:13:31]  That's the way things are supposed to be.
[01:13:33]  I know we live in this asshole generation, so I still just like dress like a kid and I vape and do all these dumb things, but I'm a fucking 36-year-old husband and father.
[01:13:42]  Is that some women like being groped?
[01:13:44]  And so I went online and they were like, I miss the fact that when I was on the subway, men used to grab at me.
[01:13:50]  That made my morning because it made me know that my ass looked good in this little suit, you know?
[01:13:55]  And so they were putting out online, where have all the gropers gone?
[01:13:58]  And then all the women who don't like being groped got very upset because they were like, how are they going to be able to distinguish between you who wants to be groped and me that doesn't want to be groped?
[01:14:07]  I'm going to get groped on my morning commute.
[01:14:09]  That's going to ruin my whole day.
[01:14:11]  Oh, I think this is referring to the Nick Fuentes thing.
[01:14:14]  Oh, so I wasn't right at all?
[01:14:15]  No, I mean, actually, your war interests me more than theirs did.
[01:14:19]  Oh, yeah.
[01:14:19]  So, I guess I just say, look, I think it's, I'll say that I do think that there's a lot of these kind of Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro types who claim to be fighting this culture war, but it's all kind of an illusion.
[01:14:35]  They're not really fighting anything.
[01:14:37]  They're basically, it's Michael Malice's thing, like, come to life.
[01:14:40]  Their progressives driving the speed limit.
[01:14:42]  They're standing for all the gains of the left 10 years ago.
[01:14:47]  And honestly, even though Charlie Kirk claims to be pretty good on the war issues, I just get the impression.
[01:14:54]  Maybe this is unfair.
[01:14:55]  I get the impression.
[01:14:56]  He would support any new war that Trump got us into.
[01:14:59]  And whereas I think guys like Nick Fuentes and people like that are a little bit more serious about what they believe in.
[01:15:04]  And, you know, and the idea that America needs to fucking support Israel, that somehow we like because they're just so great, that that's America's business.
[01:15:15]  I mean, you can make that argument, but that sure as fuck ain't America first.
[01:15:19]  I mean, it's not so I get where they're coming from.
[01:15:21]  And, you know, I don't know.
[01:15:22]  I think the whole thing is fairly entertaining.
[01:15:26]  Scott Horton joining the LP.
[01:15:28]  Yeah, I'm fucking, I'm psyched about that.
[01:15:31]  Do you own a gun?
[01:15:33]  Why or why not?
[01:15:34]  That's for me to know and the government to find out.
[01:15:38]  It's tough in New York.
[01:15:39]  Yeah, it is very, very tough.
[01:15:41]  Gun in the butt, not my cup of tea.
[01:15:45]  That's for my friends.
[01:15:46]  All right, I'm going to do one more and then we got to wrap up.
[01:15:51]  All right, Nick asks, if we got the perfect president, could they do enough in the first term to get re-elected?
[01:16:00]  What are the first five things he would do and how long would it take to start working?
[01:16:05]  Can I answer that one?
[01:16:06]  I want to take a stab.

=== Repealing the War on Drugs (05:40) ===

[01:16:07]  Sure.
[01:16:07]  I bet if a guy got in there and removed a whole lot of licensing laws that keeps back industries from really progressing and got in the way of new industries and entrepreneurs, you'd start seeing a rebirth in the middle class and people being able to get goods and resources that they liked, that they would go, hey, what other ideas do you have for me?
[01:16:27]  And I think one of the best examples is kind of us with podcasting.
[01:16:30]  You know, 20 years ago, the only way you could work in this industry was basically by getting put on television.
[01:16:36]  Now a new technology arises and you have a lot of people who are making a decent living.
[01:16:41]  We're not making Johnny Carson money, but that's the thing.
[01:16:44]  Like it's almost when industry, when industry or government comes in and protects certain individuals, but government does a lot of, it removes the ability for people to just kind of make a little bit of profit.
[01:16:54]  Here's a really good example now.
[01:16:56]  There was like a new law with CBD that like restaurants are not allowed to serve it or whatever it was.
[01:17:02]  But I can tell you that that law came about because some of the bigger companies were like, hey, I want to make sure I'm able to make that profit.
[01:17:09]  And that's where most of these licensing laws come in.
[01:17:11]  It's to concentrate wealth towards the individuals who are able to get government to protect their wealth pile.
[01:17:17]  And so to whatever, like, you want to know why there's no middle class, it's probably just because like there's just a lot of industries that are protected that you can't kind of cut.
[01:17:25]  You can't just set up what you can't just start selling sandwiches on a corner.
[01:17:28]  You're not allowed to do that.
[01:17:29]  You can't go, hey, I make delicious sandwiches.
[01:17:31]  I'm going to sell.
[01:17:32]  You know what I mean?
[01:17:33]  You're not allowed to do that.
[01:17:34]  We're getting to the core of why Rob's a libertarian.
[01:17:37]  In my libertarian society, there'd be sandwiches as far as the eye can see.
[01:17:41]  And it would be delicious.
[01:17:42]  No, but the point, if a guy, really, if a guy came in and said, hey, listen, we're taking away the licensing laws for healthcare and suddenly you could go to your corner and get cheap healthcare with the price you need.
[01:17:52]  You go, holy shit, that works better.
[01:17:53]  Or if someone got rid of the Fed and all of a sudden, every year, your money was worth more money.
[01:17:57]  You'd be like, holy shit.
[01:17:59]  You know, so it's kind of if you're not.
[01:18:01]  Yeah, look, all those things would be great.
[01:18:03]  I mean, look, the practicality of all of this is that a president doesn't just write laws.
[01:18:08]  A president doesn't just repeal laws.
[01:18:11]  It's very hard to get into and in a real world sense.
[01:18:15]  And the truth is, I don't really see this.
[01:18:17]  Like, this is not what I think of politics being.
[01:18:20]  I think you got to convince more and more people to believe in freedom and free markets and individual rights, and then hopefully have some like decentralization and kind of move away from this whole model.
[01:18:32]  Imagine if a guy rebuilt the theory.
[01:18:34]  Well, look, in theory, right?
[01:18:37]  If somebody who's really great, and I think we're all on the same page here saying really great, meaning like libertarian leaning, were to win the presidency, like you got to think about what that means.
[01:18:47]  So that means what, 65 million people voted for the really great libertarian guy, which probably means the libertarians have taken a lot of Congress, a lot of other important seats, right?
[01:18:59]  I mean, like, this is my guess.
[01:19:01]  So I, you know, I don't have a lot of optimism that this is how it would happen.
[01:19:05]  Like, this to me is almost more of the top-down, like, authoritarian model.
[01:19:11]  And we're just trying to take that and tweak it for liberty.
[01:19:13]  Like, the idea that, well, one really great guy gets in there and saves all of us.
[01:19:17]  And that's not really how things are ever going to work.
[01:19:21]  But if we're just playing the thought experiment, could you get reelected?
[01:19:27]  I don't know.
[01:19:28]  Look at what they're fucking doing to Trump.
[01:19:29]  You'd be battling some of the most powerful, entrenched, you know, special interests you can imagine.
[01:19:36]  So yeah, it'd be really, really hard.
[01:19:38]  And you might just get killed or thrown in jail or impeached or something like that.
[01:19:42]  But theoretically, if you were allowed to do it, the one thing a president really could do is fucking, you know, is the commander in chief of the military and fucking bring all those fucking, you know, bring a whole bunch of fucking troops home and a whole bunch of wars.
[01:19:57]  Theoretically, if you had Congress working with them, the stuff Rob's talking about, I mean, look, if you like had drastic spending cuts, drastic cuts in regulation, yeah, I mean, I think that the benefits of it would be unbelievable and would be seen all throughout.
[01:20:15]  And you're just kind of touching on examples of it there.
[01:20:17]  But you don't, I mean, they've done estimates of this of the trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars in economic growth that's destroyed by regulation.
[01:20:25]  I think it's hard to have a precise number, you know, known.
[01:20:29]  But absolutely.
[01:20:30]  I also am a very big believer that, you know, if you were to say, again, this is not something that just a president could do, but theoretically, if you were to be able to get this passed through Congress or whatever the process is, if you were to repeal the war on drugs and really enforce the Second Amendment and repeal the welfare state, I think the transformation you would see around all the high crime, high poverty areas in this country would be like, you wouldn't believe it.
[01:20:59]  You just wouldn't believe it.
[01:21:01]  All of a sudden, the gangs would be completely kneecapped.
[01:21:04]  They'd have nothing to do.
[01:21:05]  You know, it's like they kind of have to rely on this environment where people are like, basically only criminals have the guns.
[01:21:13]  Only criminals are allowed to sell drugs, which there's high demand for.
[01:21:18]  And fucking the welfare state that kind of destroys all these families.
[01:21:21]  You get all of that out of the way.
[01:21:24]  I think the difference you could make would be like unbelievable, like really drastic.
[01:21:28]  Sandwiches for everyone.
[01:21:29]  And they'd have sandwiches now.
[01:21:32]  Okay.
[01:21:32]  You know what?
[01:21:33]  We're going to wrap on that one.
[01:21:37]  So thanks all of you guys for your questions.
[01:21:39]  Sorry I couldn't get to more.
[01:21:42]  All right.
[01:21:42]  That's our show for today.
[01:21:44]  We'll be back on Monday with a brand new episode.
[01:21:46]  I love each and every one of you.
[01:21:48]  Peace.