James Smith and Robbie Bernstein dissect the hypocrisy of US foreign policy, arguing that arming radical Islamists to overthrow Assad backfired while ignoring the stability of the Syrian government. They critique domestic authoritarianism, citing militarized police and indefinite detention laws, then contrast American corporate appeasement of China with silence on human rights abuses. The discussion extends to Democratic candidates normalizing the claim that misgendering constitutes violence, which Smith labels illogical bullying, before speculating on the viability of progressive economic platforms against Trump. Ultimately, the episode suggests modern activism lacks moral courage by avoiding genuine dissent and prioritizing market access over liberty. [Automatically generated summary]
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Rubbing Open Sores00:03:27
Fill her up!
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Tears your host, James Smith.
Hello.
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am the most consistent motherfucker you know, Dave Smith.
Glad you could join us again.
Of course, to my left, to my east flank, is the king of the caulks, the fire Robbie Bernstein.
Welcome to the show, sir.
Thanks, man.
Thanks for taking the time out to come in to your regularly scheduled job.
I try and do my part.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And today was a difficult day for me.
Was it?
Yeah, I wore a shirt that's too tight and my nipples, they're tender as all fuck.
A lot of chafing going on.
Chafing.
Yeah.
And then they get more tender.
As the day goes, it's just more and more tendered nipples.
Oh, it's brutal.
That is one of the worst things.
Like, if I was...
Have you had this happen to you?
I figured this was just a chubby guy problem when you were in the middle of the day.
Oh, no.
Skinny guys have chafed nipples too.
Sometimes, you know, I've had, I mean, I'm sure I've battled with it less than others in my life.
But yeah, chafe nipple.
Like if I was, let's say I was in the CIA torture unit working on breaking an al-Qaeda operative, and they were like, what's the way, like, we're brainstorming here, torture ideas.
One of the first things I would go to, I'd say, um, wet socks.
That would be my first one.
I'd be like, just make him step in a puddle in sneakers and then just don't let him change his socks.
He'll give you everything you need.
Because I've had that happen to me before.
And I'd be like, I'll give you every secret I have.
Like, everything.
I'd hand, like, I don't know what it is, but I would give you anything and then more.
And then chafe nipples.
That'd be right up there with slowly chafe his nipples.
Be like, listen, guys, this is going to take all day, but we're going to get that terrorist camp location.
And then, like, later in the day, your tits are almost as warm.
You're like, am I pregnant?
What's going on here?
Yeah.
Why are my tits all tender?
Well, have you taken a home pregnancy test?
Not yet.
Maybe later today, I'll pee on one of those EPT.
What's it called?
EBT is what?
That was close.
The EPT.
Yeah, that's what I said.
I got it right.
I thought you said B. EBT, I think, is some welfare shit.
EPT is the home pregnancy test.
They all sound like.
And before we start the show, shout out to Brian who caught the AIDS.
You know?
It's going around.
Well, he should have known better than to be rubbing open sores with you.
I know.
Well, hopefully he recovers as quickly as I did.
Remember that was one of the ways you could get AIDS, like an open soar?
But you'd always be like, are you just rubbing open sores with another AIDS patient?
I know you're HIV positive, but I just love the feeling of rubbing sores with you.
Oh, AIDS.
They really tried to scare us with that one.
And it turns out it's just being black or gay.
You just have to avoid both those things.
And if you guys are out there and you're black or you're gay and you're worried about AIDS, just stop.
Stop being black or gay.
Oh, yeah.
Why wouldn't you think of that?
You were asking for it.
Libertarian Ideology Failure00:16:21
Yeah.
We all know that.
All right.
Well, good banter to start the show off.
Let's get into it.
Better than usual, I would say.
Okay, so there's a lot of stuff I want to talk about today.
And we'll get into it.
Definitely going to talk about what's going on in Syria and the media response to that a little bit.
And then I want to talk a bit about China and the NBA and all of that because I think that's a really interesting and terrifying story.
But before we get into that, I had a few thoughts that I wanted to mention about the last podcast I did, Wednesday one-on-one episode with Nicholas Fuentes, which I got to say, it's a really fun name to say.
I almost just Fuentes.
Very, very, really, when you hear the name, you wouldn't think that's the guy who's behind the name.
But I will say the show got, I got a big response from the show.
And that's good.
That's always what we're looking for.
One of the most just in the first couple days, one of the most viewed Wednesday one-on-ones and listened to Wednesday one-on-ones that we've had and a lot of comments, a lot of people interested.
And I really enjoyed it.
I enjoyed the conversation a lot.
And I just wanted, you know, I've been, I've had a few people in the Part of the Problem Inner Circle, which is our private Facebook group that you can join if you become a supporting listener.
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And you get to mix it up with all of us, that great group we have there.
But I've gotten some criticisms in that group before saying that I never take on right-wing criticisms of libertarianism.
And I always tend to, you know, argue against the left-wing.
What are the right-wing criticisms?
We need to go to war and we got to put people in jail.
Well, that's a little bit different, I think, than what they're talking about.
They're not talking about the kind of establishment.
Well, you know, they mean more, I would say, the traditional European pre-Enlightenment right wing.
I think that's what they mean at least.
But I will say, because I've heard people, you know, like say with them where they'll go, oh, you never take on the right-wing criticism of libertarianism.
And I'll be like, I mean, I've literally, we have an entire segment called Contra Carlson, where I've taken on Tucker Carlson's, you know, anti-liberty arguments.
And then people would say, well, no, he's left-wing too.
So once you get into that area, if you're going by the old European definition of right versus left, which is fair, you can have that.
But I think you would understand why I've spent less time taking on that argument, because if Tucker Carlson is left-wing to you, then what you're talking about is like a very, very small percentage of the population.
I mean, a very...
This is the old European, we got to conquer the Spaniards?
I would say kind of a pro monarch, pro-religious traditionalism, that kind of thing, like anti-classical liberalism, which I hope I'm doing it justice in describing it.
But I will say that I, first of all, I enjoyed having Nick on the show.
I think he's an impressive young guy.
He's very smart.
He's a very talented broadcaster.
He's a funny guy.
And I enjoyed talking with him.
And I think that some other people who were giving me some pushback about the episode, look, I'll just say this, first of all, which everybody should know about me by now.
If you listen to this show, if you listen to Legion of Skanks, anything.
First of all, I am not going to be told who I can and can't talk to.
And I'm not going to be told what issues are like off limits or anything like that.
So I enjoyed talking to Nick.
And I actually think that a lot of people who were bothered by the episode, it's more, It demonstrates your bias more than anything else because truthfully speaking, look, there were a lot of areas of common ground.
Now, if somebody, let's just say, if there was somebody on the left who was anti-war, anti-war on drugs, I don't know, one other good position, like another really important position that the left would be good on, you know?
And I was complimenting them and saying, hey, look, I think we're fellow travelers in a lot of ways.
If Jimmy Doerr or someone like that came on the show and I had a good conversation with them, I don't think a lot of those people would be upset.
But at the same time, someone else could say, but this guy wants to like socialize medicine and this guy wants to take guns away and all these things.
And you'd be like, well, yeah, those are those are bad positions.
But why is it that if somebody, somebody on the right, like Nick Fuentes, who is saying he's, wants to end the wars, end the Fed, end the welfare state, it's like, well, I mean, I certainly think there's at least enough there to go, look, we, we have some very, very important views that we're on the same page with, and obviously some other ones that we're, we're not on the same page with.
I guess I've always said, look, I'm not, uh, I've said many times before on the show, but I think the term racism is almost meaningless.
Like, I don't know, I genuinely don't know what the term means anymore.
It's got such a wide spectrum.
It's like this huge net that covers basically the like really horrific stuff on one end and then basically what we all are on the other end.
Um, everybody.
I don't think there's anybody who doesn't have a touch of racism in them.
In fact, the ones who bend over backward the most to be anti-racist to me end up being some of the most racist people I've ever seen.
Um, so, but I guess I've just never had an allergy to somebody who's not like who who says politically incorrect things or who, you know, even if you like, which Nick certainly doesn't say this and nobody I've ever talked to actually has said this, but even if somebody was like, I fucking hate black people, like that, that was just their position.
They go, I fucking hate black people and I never want to associate with any of them.
I mean, all right, I don't agree with them.
I've known some pretty cool black people, but it's really just a personal view you have.
And it's not like the worst thing in the world.
It's like, yeah, all right.
I think that's a, that's a stupid view.
But, you know, again, I'm not like saying Nick had this view or anything like that.
But if someone did, it's like, I don't know.
And then if somebody like, you know, George W. Bush is like, well, I, I have nothing against black people.
They're some of the best people I've ever met.
Now let's go bomb the crap out of some Iraqi village.
I'd be like, I actually think he's a far worse person than the guy who's just like, doesn't like a certain group of people.
Have whatever views you want to have.
If you're not enforcing it on others, then, you know, I don't really care.
Anyway, that's just saying that's my mindset.
And actually, I think as a libertarian and as a comedian, I think that dismantling politically correct, woke, cancel culture is a very important goal.
I think we're never going to get anywhere on anything that actually matters.
And also just as a comedian, I think basically you're going to ruin the entire art of comedy if you can, you know, destroy anybody who doesn't, you know, comply to the allowable opinions on every single topic.
So I like somebody who's anti-war, anti-Fed, anti-welfare.
And I also kind of see some value in somebody who's just wildly politically incorrect.
So I found it to be an interesting conversation.
I would say, though, to the people who are saying that I won't, that I don't deal enough with the right-wing criticisms of libertarianism, I got to say, I'm just not impressed by any of the criticisms of libertarianism.
I find them to be so weak and actually really not very different than the left-wing criticisms of libertarianism.
So, you know, like Nick said in the episode, for example, and this isn't just about him.
I don't want to just, you know, have a discussion about him after he's off the show and not here to respond.
But it's more about the bigger, you know, like the movement or whatever that he represents and that there's a lot of other people on.
And it's somebody who says he used to be a libertarian and is now considers himself a paleoconservative.
Although I got to say, I think he is not on the same page as a lot of the traditional paleoconservatives.
But in some ways, I think that represents a failure of libertarians, like a failure that we've lost some of these guys to a more hard right ideology and that maybe we haven't done a good enough job in kind of arguing our side or really in educating people who are libertarians what this is really all about.
So just a few of them that I wanted to deal with quickly off the top.
Number one, Nick said that he was a libertarian and that the two things that really changed his mind were seeing Antifa and the demographic changes in America.
So the first thing that I was saying to him was like, well, look, he basically said that he sees these Antifa people and he's like, you know what?
The state needs to crack down on them.
Like, I don't care what, you know, forget libertarian, forget libertarianism.
These people need to be in fucking jail.
And it's like, okay, but which one of them's, which one of them need to be in jail?
I mean, all of them?
Somebody who just liked a Facebook page?
Maybe somebody who just like went to one of their marches and then bailed and was like, this is a crazy thing.
Somebody just sympathetic to them?
I mean, are we just rounding everybody who we don't like and throwing them in jail?
Just seems like you'd need some type of system to decide who should be punished and who shouldn't.
And there's a pretty obvious one, which is the ones that are violent or destroy property.
Those are the ones that should be dealt with.
To me, that was completely consistent with libertarianism.
And as I mentioned on the show, you'd have to start to ask yourself, well, how did this come about?
How did you develop a group like Antifa?
And I think it's pretty hard to ignore the fact that these people are the product of government schools.
I mean, look, if there were, let's just say there was one corporation, like one, one corporation that was in charge of running schools and they were schooling a bunch of people and then a bunch of them were coming out Like these fucking maniacs, and they had had them from age five to 18 and been indoctrinating them into their bullshit.
And then they were coming out, destroying property, hitting people with bike locks, all of this shit.
Would we not right away look to them and go, well, why the, what the hell did you do to these kids?
So to me, it's a big part of this has to be looking at the propaganda that they've been subjugated to for their entire life.
I mean, most of these people are like, you know, 20, something like that.
for the most part.
And by the way, they're pretty much all white.
So it's not really a problem of like minorities.
It's a problem of this ideology.
And it's a stark, you know, opposition to libertarianism.
The other thing was the demographic changes.
And I would say, look, I am somewhat sympathetic to the argument that like rapidly changing the demographics of a country are a pretty risky thing to do.
And it's, to me, not really consistent with libertarianism to just say, well, everybody should be allowed to come in whenever they want to.
I mean, we've talked about immigration a lot before on the show.
It's not, look, the belief in private property is basically that you have the right to invite anybody onto your property and you have the right to exclude anybody from your property.
But the government taking over the property and inviting in X amount of people isn't libertarian any more than them excluding X number of people is libertarian.
I don't know exactly how many people should come in or exactly how it should be chosen, but the idea that a million come in legally every year and then a few hundred thousand more than that illegally come in every year, who's to say that's the right libertarian answer?
Certainly doesn't seem like it to me.
Anyway, so I understand, look, I understand some of the concerns, but I guess my message, and we don't really have to even talk about it too much more than that, but I guess my message to a lot of those people who were libertarians who went more hard right.
And I think, by the way, it does represent a failure of libertarians to some degree because I've seen people argue with these guys and they'll just, I think as much as libertarians love to live in like the theoretical world and working out hypothetical situations and that's all great.
I love doing that too.
But if you're going to talk to some of these people who are more on the hard right, I think you need to base your positions in reality because that's right at the heart of their argument.
It's like, well, we have to live within reality, which I agree is true.
But even as Nick acknowledged at one point during the show, he said he really liked the policy.
I forget where it was.
It was in Poland, I think maybe, where he said they were giving tax credits to people who have kids.
So in other words, they're subsidizing, well, subsidizing maybe is the wrong term, but encouraging, incentivizing, I should say, people to have kids.
And he was all for that.
And my only point is that, okay, but if you recognize that economic incentives can get the outcome that you like, just think about what the state is incentivizing right now.
You know, if you look around the country and you think to yourself, man, how did we go from like a country of like families and values and religion to the country that you see today?
And it's like, well, we've been incentivizing consumption and degeneracy for a long time.
I certainly understand being opposed to it, but what is the mechanism causing that?
And if you're already accepting that these incentives can work, can influence behavior, then I would have to say that.
Like, well, yeah, between public schooling, welfare, divorce laws, child custody laws, between monetary policy, we've done a tremendous amount to subsidize the destruction of the family unit, the destruction of family savings, and to incentivize consumption.
And Nick also said at one point, and this is a criticism that anarcho-capitalists get a lot, is he said, he said, well, where has this ever worked?
Show me a track record of anarcho-capitalism working.
And I know that a lot of people think that's a really good point, but I don't think it is.
It's one of those things that like, upon first glance, sounds like a really good argument against anarcho-capitalism.
But I actually think it's, upon further inspection, it's very weak and it falls apart pretty quickly.
I mean, look, you could say this about any new proposal.
Like, if somebody was an abolitionist in 1840, you could argue against them.
Anarcho-Capitalism Track Record00:02:37
Well, when has it ever worked not having slavery?
And there's some truth to that, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
It was a new radical idea.
You could say to anybody in the Enlightenment time, well, when has this ever worked?
When has human enlightenment ever worked?
And really, it hadn't before then.
But that doesn't mean that it didn't work.
You could say to anybody, I mean, like, whatever, whoever invented the first computer, you could say, when have there ever been computers?
Well, there haven't been.
But that doesn't mean that a new idea can't come into belief.
And you can say, well, it's just theoretical.
It's like, well, yeah, the computer was just theoretical until you built one.
That's how new ideas work.
They start as ideas and then they manifest in reality.
So you actually have to deal with ideas and find a flaw in their idea, in the idea.
So that's more or less what I wanted to say.
And, you know, anyway, I'm happy to keep having these.
If other people want to bring more specific right-wing criticisms of libertarianism, I'm happy to deal with them.
It's just, you know, I work with what I got.
And right now, we live in a very left-wing society.
And that's the only game in town.
Bring it on, motherfuckers.
There we go.
Thank you.
I appreciate that backup.
That made me feel better about myself.
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Allied Army Overthrow Assad00:14:58
All right, let's get back into the show.
All right, let's talk, huh, which one should we do first, China or Syria?
Do Syria first.
Okay.
So I was on Kennedy last night and I was talking about this and it was a funny moment.
So I was on Kennedy, but Kennedy was out.
And Guy Benson was hosting.
I don't know Guy Benson.
He's like a, I like Guy.
He's a good, he's a very talented Fox News reporter.
He's, I remember the first time I ever did a show with him, I was like, I think this guy's going to be at Fox News for a long time.
Like, he's just got that thing about him.
He's a very smart guy, but his politics are like, I think, pretty standard Fox News, Republican, run-of-the-mill.
I mean, I think he would say he's a straight reporter, but he clearly leans more Republican.
But so it was almost like it almost brought me back to the SE Cup show days where I was arguing about Syria and then, you know, with a panel who was largely disagreeing with me.
And, you know, it's funny because it's the same war.
It's the same troops that they're arguing should stay there.
But now all of a sudden, the reasoning is completely different.
And this is what happens with all of these things.
And it's really amazing.
They'll always admit that you're right last year.
Like once it comes out, they're like, yeah, yeah, you were right about that.
But now we have to keep the troops for some other reason.
You know, like they always just move the.
And so now we're not even talking about Assad gassing his people.
That has nothing to do with it.
Like no one's even thinking about that, but we have to keep the troops here.
No one's even talking about, you know, ISIS, the rise of ISIS, but we have to keep the troops here.
So all of those things you're right about, but now it's all about protecting the Kurds.
This is the big argument now.
It's like, oh my God, these Kurds who are the good guys.
They're such great people.
So we have to protect the Kurds.
And I mean, the point I tried to make on the show, but with limited time to make it, it's like, okay, look, Donald Trump certainly is betraying the Kurds.
I think there's really no argument getting around that.
Donald Trump is betraying the Kurds.
I mean, yeah, we allied up with the Kurds and now we're bailing.
However, we've done that to the Kurds before several times.
I feel like we do that to everyone every time.
Yeah, and specifically to the Kurds.
Hey, man, we're going to get your back.
You just got to go fight for us a little bit.
And here's all the supplies.
And here's what we got for you guys to start.
But pretty soon we're going to get the whole army over here.
We got your back.
And then every time we sell them out.
Well, you know what's really crazy about this one particular Syria is it's it's to me and I of course I've been talking about the war in Syria for like years now But it's it's the most interesting one to me of all the the different conflicts.
There's more moving parts and more countries involved.
I mean just in the war in Syria you have the players that are involved there that have been from the beginning obviously well you've got the Syrian government Assad's government then you have the Kurds who were allied with Assad for a while but then kind of have allied with us of course then you have the free Syrian army and the radical Islamists the ISIS al-Nusra all those guys right who we were supporting for a while under Obama and then and that's just the country's Forces.
Then, of course, you have the U.S. intervening there.
You've had the Saudis intervening there, Israeli intervening there, Turkey intervening there, Iran intervening there, and Russia intervening there.
And one of the things that's scariest about the war in Syria is you're like, you just see a world war in the making.
I mean, it's like when you have all of these different countries involved in this one conflict, it's like, wow, you just see how this could get out of hand very quickly, much more so than like in Iraq or something like that.
Also, more often than not, it doesn't seem to me like we convinced a bunch of farmers to be like, hey, if you guys start up a revolution, we're going to back you.
Maybe we've done that in the past, but I'm just willing to, I'm really talking out of my ass here.
I'm willing to bet that the Kurds really wanted to fight and were like, well, here, we'll give you guys some arms to get out there.
Well, here's the thing, right?
Like, would these guys have just been chilling at home if we never got involved with them?
Well, I don't know.
Well, here's the thing, right?
Maybe.
Because here's the thing, and this is the weird thing that it's like the question that doesn't get asked.
So people go, oh, so we allied up with the Kurds and now we're just bailing on them.
But is that true?
Yes, that part is true.
We allied up with the Kurds now.
You know what I mean?
But like, were they just sitting at home chilling or were they involved in this whole thing?
Well, not really.
They had a high degree of independence under Assad.
So they were more or less, Assad more or less left them alone.
So we convinced them to convert it to the future.
Well, it's more than that.
Hold on.
This is what happened, okay?
And this is the question that no one starts asking.
Why did we ally up with the Kurds?
No, we didn't convince them to fight Assad.
What happened was the Obama administration, along with John Brennan, then head of the CIA, John Kerry, then Secretary of State, the Saudis, the Israelis, and the Turks decided that we were going to support the John McCain moderate rebels who turned out to be ISIS.
And you can listen, John Kerry's on tape talking about this.
He goes, we bet we knew we were setting all these weapons and money was going toward ISIS, but we thought we could control them and they would put pressure on Assad to step down.
So the plan was to overthrow Assad.
The reason we wanted to overthrow Assad was all about Iranian influence in the region because Iran is allied with Assad.
So we decided we were going to do this.
But it turns out ISIS didn't do exactly what we wanted them to do.
And they ended up going in and invading Iraq.
And then ISIS became a big problem.
They're like, you're going the wrong way.
Yes, exactly.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
And they're like, dude, there's so much cool shit over here.
We can rape this village.
We can tag it.
Well, it's not just raping village.
You know what was over there was stockpiles of weapons that the Americans had left behind before.
Now, what happened was also Obama had pulled the troops out of Iraq.
So there was nothing stopping them from going into Iraq.
So what, of course, is the narrative that comes out of the mainstream media is Obama pulled the troops out.
And that's why ISIS was able to go in.
Now, that is partially true.
I thought also.
But what really happened was we armed ISIS.
We helped create this group, ISIS, and then they went in.
So the only lesson they learned was you pull the troops out, ISIS comes in.
But the real lesson to be learned was don't arm ISIS, and they wouldn't have been able to storm in.
But they did.
I thought ISIS was also in part formed by some of the old Iraqi generals.
Well, there was some crossover there.
There was some crossover.
But really, what it was was this.
And to go back to the whole story, this is what it was, right?
Basically, there was no al-Qaeda in Iraq at all under Saddam Hussein.
Saddam was a Baathist, a Sunni Muslim, but he hated the radical bin Ladenites, didn't let any of them in.
And Saddam ruled with an iron fist, so you weren't getting in.
And then George W. Bush, the fucking retard that he is, blamed Saddam Hussein for 9-11 and went into Iraq and overthrew his government.
So he put the Shiites in power.
The Shiites are like 60% of the country.
The Sunnis are the minority, but they were ruling over him with an iron fist.
So what do you think the Shiites did as soon as they got power?
They weren't.
We got power and we're the majority.
So they started fucking putting down the Sunnis hard.
Like, you're not, you're getting no part of this government.
We're fucking ruling you now the same way you ruled us.
So then bin Laden, who's still alive at the time, told all of the al-Qaeda fighters, fucking flood Iraq.
Because number one, your Sunni brothers are now being put down.
But number two, the American military is there.
So it's pretty hard to pull off terrorist attacks in America post-9-11.
They're on high alert, but we could definitely pull off some fucking terrorist attacks against the invading American army.
And then, of course, fucking Rumsfeld had the genius idea to disband Saddam's army.
So now you've got these fucking people who are trained to do nothing except kill, can't get a job, are fucking oppressed by the Shiite government.
They're running around.
And many of them joined the insurgency.
And the insurgency ended up, the toughest fighters there were the al-Qaeda guys.
So al-Qaeda floods into Iraq, then in Syria as well.
And in Libya and in Syria, Obama decided to side with the Sunni Islamists, the bin Ladenites in both cases to overthrow the governments because now he realized the Shiites were getting too much power.
Iran was getting too much influence.
And Israel and Saudi Arabia were both pissed off about that because they don't like Iran.
So then when the Islamic State got too out of control, we were like, fuck, we need to fight them.
And we ended up using the Kurds who had been allied with Assad because we weren't going to work with Assad.
We've been trying to overthrow him forever.
He's not going to work with us.
He's allied with Russia and Iran, all the people we hate.
We still want, the goal was still regime change, but this ISIS thing was becoming a big problem.
So they decided to work with the Kurds to arm up the Kurds to go fight ISIS who we had just armed up.
It's a complete conflict that was created out of intervention.
And then, of course, the fucking moral that Fox News takes from it is, can't pull troops out.
This is what happens when you don't intervene.
And it's always, so everyone's just fighting each other with weapons that we gave them.
It's all our way.
Yes.
It's all us.
We started the civil war.
We armed both sides of this war.
And now we're going like, well, look, but there's this violence.
I remember years ago reading this.
It was just a funny article.
I don't remember the specifics, but they found out that it was a CIA armed batch that was fighting a Pentagon armed batch.
Yes, this is when the Kurds were fighting the CIA, the Free State Army.
I'm sorry, it's a Free State Army.
Jesus Christ.
This is what the Free Syrian army.
So this is when the Kurds were fighting against the radical Islamists.
And we realized, oh, it's literally Pentagon armed Kurds versus CIA armed Islamists fighting each other.
And then the message there is like, well, we can never leave a war.
Okay, now here's the other thing.
So why is it that Turkey all of a sudden goes, hey, we got to go kill these Kurds?
Because Turkey hates the Kurds.
Turkey's hated the Kurds the whole time.
That's why Turkey was on board with fucking arming ISIS to get rid of Assad, who is also allied with the Kurds.
I know there's a lot of moving pieces here, guys, but if you break it down, it's actually not that complicated.
But here's what gets really hilarious about the whole thing.
Now, number one is they go, well, the Kurds are, they're sitting ducks now because we fucking, you know, we're bailing on them.
Who's going to protect them?
Well, actually, if you know anything about the history, it's pretty obvious what the obvious move is here for the Kurds.
You know, it's funny.
We were on Fox News last night and we're talking about all of this and we're talking about Turkey, the Kurds, and ISIS as the three groups that are involved.
And it's like, we're talking about a conflict in Syria.
And who's the one group we're not talking about?
Syria.
Syria.
Yeah.
The Syrian government.
Well, who would they ally with?
Obviously, they would ally with Bashar al-Assad.
He's the guy who's actually got control of the military.
He's got a state.
He's the guy who can protect them, as he had been for a long time.
But guess what?
When they wanted to ally with Assad last year, we told them not to.
Because we hate Assad.
That's when we fucked him.
So we really fucked him by telling them that.
And then they also go, well, who's going to take care of ISIS?
You know, the answer to that is Assad.
See, here's the thing with Syria that's crazy, and none of them can admit this, but right.
Look, if you look at the state of Iraq, it's a goddamn nightmare.
It's just been, I mean, really, the numbers, like Iraq was a country of something like 26, 27 million people.
Something like 15 million of them were displaced.
Like, basically, half the country has just their lives have been ruined.
And anyone could look at it.
Anyone honestly would go, oh, it's better off under Saddam.
And if you look at Libya, where there's just like an open slave trade and the whole nation's falling apart, anyone could look at it and go, oh, they were better under Qaddafi.
But Saddam was killed.
Gaddafi was killed.
But in Syria, Assad's still there.
And it's obvious.
You look, you go, oh, they were better off under Assad, but Assad's still there.
So the solution is kind of obvious.
You'd want Assad to just retake the country.
Turns out the best thing that could happen is we just undo all the goddamn damage we did.
Oops, half a million people are dead.
Try to go back to the way you used to be.
That would be the best case scenario of what's reasonable.
They don't really want that because if all of a sudden Assad gets his shit together, Syria probably goes back to fighting Israel.
I'll tell you something.
Yeah.
Syria is going to lose that fight.
Syria's been through.
But I'm just saying.
Syria's been through eight years of civil war.
And they were already going to lose that fight to Israel.
There's much more of a fear of Israel fucking up Syria than there is of Syria fucking up Israel.
I don't think Israel wants to go on any offensives, but I think they might have been.
Well, I think they might quietly be behind all of this along with America.
That is the more Jewy way to handle things.
They like chaos in all these other regions.
Well, that's for sure.
Or listen, I'm not sure that they're actually in but I can just say it benefits them.
So to look at this and go, oh shit, why are we having all this chaos there?
That's what they want.
Well, just to be clear, Israel not only, you know, helped fund ISIS and has helped sow chaos all throughout the region, but Israel has directly had direct strikes on Syria throughout the last seven years.
So they're down to do that as well.
But that was always, I mean, on paper in retaliation to like Iran moving arms into the nation.
Basically, if a Shiite group within Syria takes two steps in either direction, they go, oh, this is defensive.
But it's an aggressive.
If you go back, I mean, like, 10 years prior to the Syria civil war, wasn't there some skirmishes like started from Syria aggressing towards?
I don't know.
I'm asking you.
I'm not.
You know, I know that there was like, Israel's basically always claiming this.
But if you actually look who's the aggressor, nine times out of ten, it was Israel.
I mean, they painted out like Hezbollah was some terrible aggressor against them.
They'd be like, Hezbollah was attacking Israeli soldiers.
And it's like, where?
In southern Lebanon.
Wait, what were they doing there?
They were occupying the country.
It's like, oh, yeah, okay.
So, but somehow in this, in this bizarro world, we're supposed to believe that they're just the same way that the insurgents in Iraq were the aggressors against the American troops.
Because as we were invading their country, they were supposed to thank us and greet us as liberators.
And instead, they started shooting at us.
And then we go, terrorist.
These terrorists are shooting at us.
So how many people are the Kurds?
Like, didn't they?
I don't know, I'd like to say this group that supposedly is going to get demolished by Turkey while they're in Syria.
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Well, they might well get demolished by Turkey.
They're not a large group, but they're good fighters.
That's my understanding, more or less, of the Kurds.
But anyway, just the thing that's so crazy about this whole situation now is that you've got the Kurds who are guarding these ISIS prisoners.
They wouldn't exist if we hadn't funded them to begin with.
And certainly wouldn't exist if we hadn't overthrown Saddam Hussein and backed them in Libya and Iraq and Syria.
Then you have Turkey coming in and the whole now, and Assad, who's really not being talked about there, but really is the reason why all these Warhawks want to stay.
So Turkey.
Who's now being painted as the bad guys for coming in and attacking the Kurds, right?
Turkey is in NATO.
Yeah, which is.
Turkey's actually a NATO ally.
So for people who are not familiar with NATO, the deal with being in NATO is a mutual protection agreement.
So if any NATO country is attacked, we are bound to go to war to defend them.
So we're arming the Kurds.
If the Kurds were to turn around and attack Turkey tomorrow, we have to go to war against the Kurds.
But everyone's furious about Turkey.
By the way, Turkey's holding a whole bunch of nuclear weapons for America.
We just keep nukes there to keep like Russia on guard and China on guard and all those countries.
So the whole thing is a goddamn cluster fuck.
So obviously the answer is we shouldn't be in an agreement with Turkey.
We shouldn't be in this fucking NATO agreement.
We shouldn't be giving them our nuclear weapons if they're such a fucking threat.
We shouldn't have ever armed ISIS.
And also, we should leave.
We should just leave.
We've done nothing but cause a nightmarish disaster since we've been there.
Just fucking leave.
That's it.
I'm sorry.
Listen, if the Kurds get slaughtered, the Kurds get slaughtered.
They probably should have prepared for this.
They've literally been ditched by America before.
George H.W. Bush did the same fucking thing to him in Iraq, bailed on him, told him to rise up against Saddam.
And then we left and left Saddam in power and he fucked him up.
Okay, sorry.
Go make a deal with Assad.
That's inevitable.
That's what's going to happen here anyway.
So go make a fucking deal with Assad.
Work it out on your own.
But let's get real.
Okay.
Nobody in Syria, other than ISIS, perhaps you could argue, who we created, is a threat.
None of them are a threat to America.
How come there's no play where America just tells Turkey, hey, no, fucking up the Kurds?
Well, they did kind of say that, but it looks like Turkey's not listening.
Turkey's like, we want to fuck up those Kurds so bad.
And he's like, oh, have you seen those Kurds?
Those Kurds look so delicious.
We're going to go fuck up those Kurds.
I mean, you just put them right here.
And they're like, okay, I can tell you.
We won't fuck up the Kurds.
But then I, you know, I see a Kurd and I'm like, ooh, gotta go get that Kurd.
But that's more or less the problem.
I mean, Donald Trump, Donald Trump did tell him, don't fucking do anything here.
But it seems like the day the troops moved out, they went.
Well, they've already started fucking up Kurds.
Yeah, they had a big offensive.
I think it was yesterday or the day before.
But that means Turkey's actually fighting in Syria.
Yeah, but Turkey's been intervening in Syria for quite a while.
Like at first, they were there, really from their perspective, they were like, oh, we were on board with you when we were arming ISIS.
I mean, what the fuck happened?
Now all of a sudden you guys are on the Kurd side?
Like we still want to do the jihadist thing.
So Turkey, it's almost hard to blame them with our fucked up foreign policy.
But the craziest thing, and this would be the biggest takeaway from all of it, which really just exposes the whole fucking thing, is that anytime there's any amount of violence that results in U.S. troops leaving an area, it gets just dominates the news.
Dominates the news all over the place.
Like, I mean, oh my God, troops left and then this violence happens.
But anytime violence happens as a result of an intervention, of us sending troops somewhere, gets next to no coverage.
That's because we're kicking ass.
Well, right.
I mean, look, you have, look, the Kurds are this fighting force, okay?
They've been at war in a civil war for a long time.
Now, I think about 100 of them got killed the other day.
That's like what was reported.
Okay, that's bad.
You never like to see people killed.
But in Yemen, you have hundreds of thousands of children dying.
Like children.
Yeah, but Saudi Arabia.
Being starved to death.
You don't need to be able to do that.
So as a result.
As a result of our intervention, of our supporting Saudis and refueling their planes and fighting this war with them in Yemen, there's children starving to death.
And that gets none of the attention.
I mean, it doesn't, it's a thousandfold the amount of attention that, I mean, if we had, and this has been going on in Yemen for years now.
This has been going on for five years in Yemen.
And it gets nothing.
Maybe we're going to give weapons to the kids.
Just think about that, right?
Yeah, well, really.
Just think about that, though.
Think about how much attention just in the last three days the Kurds have gotten, the poor Kurds.
Yet the people of Yemen are just human garbage.
Here's what we do.
They're just, nobody cares.
You give all these weapons to kids, and then you get footage.
Hey, look, these kids are too hungry to use the weapons we gave them.
I'll be honest, that might be the best plan.
That might be the best plan.
And then we'll be all over it.
You want to actually get this thing going?
They're not trying to arm these starving Yemeni kids.
And they can't even use the weapons.
But it really is a whole cluster fucking.
It's crazy that you would meet this type of backlash just for pulling a few troops out of a region.
It's like, you know, like 100 troops out of a region.
Now, that being said, as you noted earlier, Donald Trump isn't really pulling troops out.
No, he's moving them.
He's just moving them.
He's actually ramping up how many troops are in the region.
He's just moving them to Saudi Arabia.
That's right.
So don't get it twisted.
Donald Trump doesn't deserve any fucking credit, but the media is insane for giving him this type of treatment.
All right.
So more or less, that's my take on Syria.
I mean, I've been talking about the Syrian conflict for a long time.
So if you guys, you know, if you've listened to the older episodes, you already know my fucking, my take on the bigger picture in the conflict.
But it really is.
It's really funny that this is what they're reduced to now.
Like, the argument for war in Syria was like, Bashar al-Assad, you know, is slaughtering his own people.
We have to go stop him.
Who do you think?
Then it was, it was, well, actually, here were the arguments in Syria.
First, it was, Bashar al-Assad is sponsoring terrorism against our troops in Iraq.
Then it was, oh my God, there's this rise of ISIS.
So we have to go back in there.
Then it was Bashar al-Assad is gassing his own people again.
So we have to go back in there and blah, blah, blah.
And now they're reduced to, you know, then it was like, well, the caliphate hasn't completely been destroyed.
It's still got these three areas.
Then that got destroyed.
And now they're reduced to, well, we got to protect the Kurds.
That's why you have to go send your sons and daughters, mostly sons, to go die in Syria, is to protect the Kurds.
Now, you do understand that, like, throughout the world, there's tribal conflicts, sectarian violence all over the place.
How could you possibly think it's a realistic standard to say, we got to go die anytime one of these sects could be killed by another one?
We don't have enough people in the country to send all over the world to every place that there's sectarian violence.
So isn't a more reasonable standard to go, if our national security is threatened, maybe we look into it.
And if not, we don't.
And let's get real.
Does anyone in the United States of America think that anything in Syria might bring down our country?
Like they might really be a threat to us?
Of course not.
And by the way, if you listen to any one of these Warhawks, they're only like four sentences away from admitting what it's really all about, which is Iran, which is Israel.
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That's what it's all really about.
But Iran's going to get more influence in the region, and they're not friends of Israel.
So once again, it's kind of like, oh, we got to go fight a war for Israel.
Haven't we done enough of that?
How many of these wars for Israel do we have to fight before we're like, eh, you know what?
Maybe this whole thing isn't working out.
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So the other thing I wanted to talk about, the story that really, oof, I found this to be a terrifying story.
Very interesting.
Is the thing with China and the NBA.
And that's only really part of it.
But the bigger picture to me is this, right?
So libertarians like myself for quite a while have been suggesting that there is a real fear of America going hardcore authoritarian.
Like things getting really, really bad here.
Now, of course, you could say, as I'm sure a lot of libertarians would say, I mean, we're already authoritarian.
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I mean, we do have the biggest prison population in the world.
We've had a war on plants for the last 40 years.
Like, you know, I mean, I know we're getting a little bit cooler about weed.
Like, if you're in Colorado or California, you know, they're not going to throw you in a cage for weed anymore.
But by the way, both in California and Colorado, there's lots of people sitting in cages for weed.
It's just they happened to get arrested before the thing got legalized.
Isn't that one of the most fucked up things?
Like, even in California or in Colorado, after they legalize weed, if you got sentenced for weed five years ago, you're still sitting in jail.
And you're like, but I think I thought it's legal now.
Like, yeah, but you didn't, your grandfathered in.
You're still a criminal.
So there's, you're still fucking sitting in jail, like watching on TV as everyone's smoking weed, like outside, running fucking dispensaries, and you're doing fucking 10 years for fucking selling pot.
You know what I mean?
It's like, what the fuck?
Like, ah, well, you shouldn't have got caught in the 80s.
I don't know what to tell you.
Should have held out for a little while and everything would be cool.
But anyway, if you ask, you know, somebody who is like an Iraqi citizen how brutally, you know, violent the American government is, they might be like, yeah, you guys are fucking Nazis, basically.
But for the average person living in America, it's a different system.
You know, we enjoy some degree of freedom.
But libertarians have been saying for a long time that it's like, well, you look at how brutal our government is in these pockets of areas and look at how much the state has been growing, how much executive power has been consolidated.
You have the fucking NSA spying on every American citizen.
And then you have the crazy scary thing, which is like the militarization of the police.
I mean, look, man, we have like the Department of Education has a SWAT team.
The fucking Department of Education has a SWAT team.
Well, yeah, right.
The EPA has a SWAT team.
There's all these different governmental departments that have like SWAT teams and militarized gear that would just seem absurd.
Like there's no reason they need that.
You ever see those numbers when like, so in the, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but like in the 1980s, SWAT raids ballooned up to like 3,000 a year.
It's like, wow, 3,000 times a year we're having SWAT raids on different, you know, drug targets and different things.
You know what the numbers at now?
It's close to 80,000.
You know why?
Because he got this shit and it's fucking fun.
Well, yeah.
I want to go smashing a door.
Well, that's right.
If you have a tool, you know, they say like, if you have a hammer, every problem starts looking like a nail.
It's like once you've got that.
And it also, look, man, imagine being at a police department and you got one of those big ass water cannons.
You're sitting around every day like, is somebody going to ride already?
No, you're right.
I want to get out there with the fucking water cannon.
It's really true.
I mean, and that's one of the things that's scary about putting cops in these militarized gear and the armored vehicles and all this shit.
It's like, look, man, have you ever like a uniform?
Well, look, if you ever played on like a sports team and you put on a uniform, you feel like a little bit different.
You feel like kind of like a member of that team.
You ever like fucking put on a suit?
You feel a little bit different in a suit and tie than you do if you're wearing a t-shirt and jeans, you know?
Or a uniform, a job where you have a uniform.
Bobby used to work at the post office.
You put on a post office uniform, you feel kind of this like, I represent this thing.
And if you're just wearing like, you know, a fucking FedEx uniform or if you're wearing a goddamn SWAT gear, you watch people start acting different.
People assume different roles.
And you start treating cops like the military.
They start acting like they're at war.
Except the problem is that theoretically, the idea is that you're supposed to be protecting these people, not fighting a war against them.
Actually, they're paying your salary is the fucking way this thing works.
Freaks me out a little bit.
You see these disaster commercials?
I see more and more about them.
Like, make sure your family's prepared.
Water bottles, flashlights.
Yeah.
Have you seen those on the back of businesses and you're like, what do you people know?
What's coming?
Well, listen, I'm just saying, I've said for a long time that I think this is something you should be really, really concerned about.
And then, by the way, while this is all happening, I mean, if you know anything about history, I think it's like a slam dunk.
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You don't even need to convince someone.
They're already scared about it.
But then you also have, while all of this is going on, you have, I mean, the Democratic Party is straight up running on socialism and gun confiscation.
That's what they're running on.
They need a militarized, like, civilian force ready to go.
Well, it's right.
It's pretty creepy.
It's like, okay, so with all this stuff going on, you're getting, and then Obama, the last president, just signs into law and the NDAA bill of 2013.
There's a whole section that says the federal government has the right to detain American citizens with no charges and hold them indefinitely.
And Obama puts this signing statement next to it.
And a signing statement is like when a president signs a bill into law, he can add how they're planning on enforcing this.
Because, right, Congress technically writes the laws and the executive branch enforces them.
So Obama wrote this signing statement next to it.
And he goes, we don't plan on arresting American citizens without charges and holding them indefinitely.
But I'm signing it into law.
So it's like, oh, okay.
So that's what we're relying on now is that he doesn't plan on doing that.
Now, a lot of people on the left have been freaking out about Donald Trump separating families from children and all this stuff.
I'm just saying, I don't think it's that crazy to go, wow, that is, this is all pretty creepy.
Now, I want to relate this to the China thing.
China is straight up a brutally authoritarian government.
No question about it.
There's no illusion of freedom of speech in China.
You can go to a Chinese prison for, I think, distributing Winnie the Pooh cartoons because they think Winnie the Pooh looks too much like the Chinese president, which, by the way, there is a slight resemblance there.
It's a shitty cartoon, anyways.
It's the only one with just depressed animals.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that about Winnie.
Oh, really?
I never liked Winnie the Pooh.
Love it.
Classic.
We're going to disagree.
Cartoons sucked.
They're slow.
That narrator's annoying.
Yeah, it's slow.
It's like old-timey southern cartoonist.
It's like, well, Pooh couldn't find the honey that day, but he did talk to Eeyore.
And Eeyore is like, I'm on heroin.
That's just, it's a great, that's great.
It's just good.
It's good entertainment.
Man.
But China is this brutally authoritarian regime.
Like, there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
We all know what they do to their people.
They're straight up like, you are not free.
If you're chilling out in a square, they'll send out the tanks to greet you.
Yeah.
Well, that part is pretty nice.
They always got a tank to say hi, but they're not so good on the brakes.
No.
So what happened in the NBA was, and keep in mind that the NBA is like the wokest of all the sports leagues.
You know, it's always LeBron James is the first one to like criticize Donald Trump and the Golden State Warriors that they didn't go to the White House after they won their championship because they're like, no, Donald Trump's a bigot or whatever.
And Steve Kerr, who's the coach of the Warriors, is always calling out, you know, like different left-wing policies.
You know, we should ban assault weapons or whatever the latest thing of the day is.
So the general manager of the Houston Rockets tweeted out a thing about the Hong Kong protests and said, basically, free Hong Kong or something that seemed to me to be, I mean, about as unoffensive statement as you could think.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what you would think, right?
I mean, it's America.
We're for freedom, not brutal authoritarianism, right?
So China got furious.
And the Chinese are huge basketball fans.
And basically the deal with China in general is like, look, they've got this huge market.
They've got, you know, well over a billion people, a billion point five people.
I forget exactly how many.
They have this huge market.
But in order to get access to that market, you got to play ball with the Chinese government.
And so lots of corporations are just like, okay, so we'll play ball with you.
But what's interesting to watch is, so basically, they reprimanded the Houston, China got furious, said, no more basketball in China.
NBA was like, oh my God, no, we're going to lose all this money.
They reprimanded the Houston general manager.
He deleted the tweet.
The NBA put out a directive that no one's allowed to talk about this.
Since then, they won't answer any questions about it.
And actually, people at basketball games here in America who are upset about this were wearing free Hong Kong t-shirts and holding up free Hong Kong signs, and they're getting kicked out of games here in America.
I'm just saying, what really creeps me out about it is not so much a comment on the Chinese government.
I mean, look, they're brutal and authoritarian, and that sucks.
And I hope their people get liberty someday.
But really, the vast majority of the world is, you know, not exactly people living in a state of liberty.
And it sucks, but I don't know.
Saving the whole world seems like a somewhat unrealistic goal.
So I care a little bit more about the implications that this has on America.
And here's the thing, right?
With all the fears of authoritarianism, like real brutal authoritarianism, like growing here.
And then you watch all of these, you watch athletes, celebrities, corporations all just take a knee to this authoritarian government.
All the ones who are so quick to criticize Donald Trump.
You know, they asked Steve Kerr the other day, well, what do you think about everything going on in China?
He goes, I really have no common.
I think I have to research it more.
Really?
You have to research it more?
You can't say that, like, yeah, Hong Kong is better than China.
I mean, listen, I'm the last one who wants to get involved in the conflict at all, but you can't say that like the Chinese prisons aren't great.
You're so against.
I'm not the Muslim camps.
I've just like seen the headlines, but I know nothing about it.
I really don't know much about it.
But you can't, you can say that Donald Trump separating children from their parents is brutal, but Chinese prisons get like a pass.
I mean, like, this, it's like, what?
Talk about the level of cowardice.
Like, but what's what's really, you know, crazy about it is that then these companies like Google cooperate.
They work with the Chinese government.
These are American companies that are very ready to work with a brutally authoritarian government.
So you go, really?
They'll do that with China, but you think if our government went even more brutally authoritarian, they wouldn't work with them?
And none of them have the balls to stand up and say something?
There's like Nike.
Nike had that thing where they put Kaepernick on as their spokesman, and they said they were like, you know, stand up and say something, risk everything.
That was like their slogan.
Yeah, tell it to one of the factory workers.
Well, right?
I mean, it's like, you won't fucking, you won't stand up.
I mean, you won't, it's, by the way, it's not as if, oh, if you stand up and say something about the Chinese government, they're going to fucking throw you in jail.
You don't have the risk that the Chinese citizens have.
You're just talking about like, oh, you won't make quite as much money.
Like, your bottom line will be a little bit affected, and you're not willing to stand up for that.
So what are you really willing to do?
You know, there was this Tom Woods wrote in his book, Real Dissent, which you've never read.
I very highly recommend.
Really, just fantastic book.
But he wrote this, and I always, this was my favorite part of the whole book, and it really stuck with me.
But he said, I was thinking about it with this situation, but he basically said that he was like, if you're anti-slavery, like if you're opposed to slavery, he wrote the book in 2015.
He was like, if you're opposed to slavery in 2015, it's basically meaningless.
Like, it doesn't mean anything to be against slavery today.
Like, everybody's against slavery.
Nobody looks back at slavery and goes, that was a really great thing.
Too bad that's, I mean, maybe there's five people, but like 99.999% of the population is against slavery.
It takes no courage to be against slavery.
It's just like, whatever.
It ended in 1865.
It's not coming back anytime soon.
It's utterly meaningless, whatever your opinion on slavery is.
But if you were against slavery in 1840, that really meant something.
Like the abolitionist party was getting like 1% support in America.
There were regular lynchings of abolitionists.
Like you were really risking something to be anti-slavery in 1840 and to speak up about it.
Okay?
Like that meant something.
And it took those people really risking everything in order to actually get the thing abolished.
Okay.
So it really meant something back then.
And the point that he makes is that what matters is what you're willing to stand up for that actually is a risky, unpopular opinion that might cost you something.
You know what I mean?
That's all that matters.
It doesn't matter what you stand up for that everyone agrees with.
It doesn't mean anything to tweet out and, you know, racism's bad or to be in Hollywood and say, I don't like President Trump.
You know, like that, it's completely risk-free.
And in fact, and Tom Woods makes this point, he goes, when you see people who are so quick to just parrot what everybody else around them believes and to take the safest position on everything and never rock the boat, he goes, you can guarantee those people wouldn't have been against slavery in 1840.
You would have gone right along with what everybody else was saying.
And that I was just reminded of that thought, that really brilliant insight, watching all this stuff, watching Steve Kerr, who's got the balls to criticize Donald Trump, but can't say anything about the Chinese government.
I'll tell you, there's something pretty creepy about the fact that like Twitter is like been kicking off leaders of the Hong Kong protest.
Like they're basically silencing the protest voices and Google will straight up ban searches.
Good old internet that we thought was going to be the vehicle for freedom.
Well, it is, you know, in some parts of the world, but they also seem to be pretty willing to work with this Chinese government.
And everyone kind of thought, you know, like going back to like the 90s, I remember being, this happening in the 90s, that everybody thought as China's economy, you know, grows, then their government will have to relax, that people will get a little bit more, they'll demand freedom and then the authoritarianism will go away.
But that isn't what's happened.
I mean, they're a lot better than they were under Mao Zedong, but still pretty bad.
And then you get this fucked up problem where now they're more of like an economic force with an authoritarian government.
And that's a really brutal combination.
I mean, in many ways, that's the combination that America has.
You know, in some sense, you know, the communists are less of a threat than the fascists.
And I use fascist more broadly speaking, like America is a quasi-fascist country.
You know, the Chinese are a true fascist country.
In many ways, they're more of a threat.
Because the thing that the socialists, I mean, the socialists were more of a threat to their own people.
But the thing that the socialists would have that limited them on their goals of world domination was that their GDPs were non-existent.
So they couldn't really do that much.
You know, they couldn't even feed their own people, let alone take over the world.
But once you start being able to feed your own people and you have more of a tax base and you grow the, then you get, you know, different balances.
But our balance in America is like we have the biggest tax base and the biggest government and the biggest military.
You do a whole lot of damage.
Now, it might seem hyperbolic to like us in this room.
It's like, oh, well, we don't have it that bad.
You know what I mean?
But think about what the American government is doing to the hundreds of thousands of people sitting in prison in this country.
Think about what the American government is doing to the people of Iraq and Syria and Yemen and Libya and all these countries.
Think about what they've done to them.
They've fucked their shit over.
Fucked them up real good.
Anyway, to me, that story, it's a truly terrifying story.
And it's a little bit of an insight, a little bit of a glimpse into what we might have to fear.
And you just realize that it's like these, you know, these, so many of these like Hollywood types, you know, they, they wear this kind of left-wing persona all around, you know, like, oh, I'm this guy who really cares about people.
But really, they just take the easiest possible position.
They never stand up for anything.
Nothing.
Did you see the shit with Robert De Niro?
Oh, yeah, he got in trouble for yelling at his staff worker or personal assistant.
Yeah, so he's getting sued by her for like millions of dollars for like sexual assault and sexual harassment.
And I guess he was like demanding like back rubs from her, she claims.
And he was letting her friends like slap her on the ass and stuff.
Like weird stuff.
I mean, this is the claim.
I don't know if it's true, but a voicemail was released of him talking to her.
I kind of say, as a dude, if you get that voicemail from Robert De Niro, that's a fucking honor.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you would play it to your boys like, dude, this is fucking awesome.
You see this voicemail I got from Robert De Niro?
That's a pretty funny guy.
There is something to that.
And also, if you're working for Robert De Niro, your job is, hey, I'm going to have to work for this miserable prick.
That's your job.
And I also, I was saying this on Run Your Mouth, go check that shit out.
I love, they've always said about Robert De Niro that he's a really shy guy and he doesn't like interacting with people.
The reality is he's the world's angriest person and he's probably always about 10 seconds away from doing that and being like every movie role you've ever seen.
So like they're just smart enough to keep everyone away.
Oh, he's shy.
He doesn't want to interact.
He's shy.
But the thing that I find funny about it all is that it's like he, Robert De Niro made himself one of the biggest Trump critics.
Well, that's, I love that.
And it's like these guys who are like, Donald Trump's such a bad person and I'm this left-wing guy.
And the whole thing about being a left liberal is like, I really care about like the average person.
You know, I know I'm a millionaire in Hollywood, but I really care about the less fortunate amongst us.
And then this is how you talk to your assistant.
You're like, oh, man, see, you don't fucking care about anyone.
You're the biggest in this one power dynamic that you can actually control.
You're the biggest prick ever to your assistant.
But then you kind of get to spin it and play it like, oh, I'm this wonderful person.
Oh, it's just, it's like, it's hilarious.
Well, what's fun about the Rock, you can't root against Robert De Niro.
You know, but when he gets, when he's, anytime anyone goes hard against Trump, it's fun to see them kind of fall down.
But it's the irony that whoever is the most vocal always.
Well, no, that's all I'm talking about.
Psychological Projection Disrespect00:03:36
Like, I don't really give a shit.
It's like, yeah, people are shitty employers and some people yell at their staff, you know, but Louis Gomez is, you know, what are you going to do?
He runs the network.
But I'm just saying it's like, look, I had a personal selfish thought.
I saw a preview for The Irishman.
I think that's what it's called.
It's like De Niro and Joe Pesci.
It looks awesome.
And it looked awesome.
And then I saw this come out and I was like, oh, don't cancel the movie.
I was like, oh, I want to see that.
I don't really give a fuck.
But there really is just something funny about the psychological projection of like when you have to accuse everybody else of being a dick.
And it turns out you're actually a real prick to all of the people who are underneath you in your own life.
There's something about that and it's all over the place.
Huh?
Nah, it's okay.
We'll play it some other time.
He curses her out.
You can go.
You can go look at it.
It's fun to listen to.
It's like any Robert De Niro.
All right, fine.
Let's play it.
How dare you?
You fucking Spain and you fucking upset with me because you tell me how nice you have it, your life over there, and you fucking don't answer my call.
How dare you?
You're about to be fighting.
You're fucking history.
How dare you with all the good things you do?
This is bullshit.
After Christmas, fuck this.
How dare you fucking disrespect me how much you did?
You want a fucking other position.
You want another position.
Let's change one another position.
Go off somewhere.
But don't fucking get angry with me because I'm pissed off because I didn't get a simple thing that I need more because right now here, I'm in California when I'm here for less than 24 hours.
You gotta be fucking kidding me, you spoiled brat.
Fuck you.
So quit, we're gonna be one.
God damn it.
How could you fucking say you don't answer?
Yo, you don't sex it.
You're living in a space, you spoiled fucking brat.
How dare you, a fucking spoiled brat?
Fuck you.
That would make my Friday night.
Can you imagine being sick?
But you know what?
There's something about it that is kind of like it is.
It's very in character for sure.
But I'll tell you, there is something because here's the weird position that you get in, right?
It's like a lot of these left-wing activists, they'll be like, the gender should be treated completely equally.
You know, that's kind of their position.
And it's they like it when convenient.
But the truth is that none of us in reality actually believe in treating genders equally in any like, you know, like if some guy got up in Bobby Hutch's face, I was like, fuck you, you fucking bitch.
And Bobby slugged him.
Like, you know, one of us might be like, ah, you didn't really need to hit him or something like that.
But basically, everyone would be like, oh, this guy got what he had coming.
I mean, he got up in another man's face and cursed him out and he got hit.
But if some girl got in Bobby's face and was like, fuck you, you bitch.
And Bobby slugged him.
We'd be like, holy shit, Bobby, like, what are you doing, man?
You can't just punch a girl for fucking sake.
Like, the truth is, we all do believe.
And if I, this is the truth.
If I saw Lewis like cursing out Bobby one day, never happened, but let's just say I saw that once.
And he was like yelling at Bobby, I'd be kind of like, yeah, well, you know, Bob's got to make a decision whether he's going to fucking curse him out back or quit or get furious or talk it out or whatever.
But if I saw him like talking to Alex like that, I'd be like, whoa, dude, dude, you got to like fucking chill.
You can't.
And that is honestly how I feel about the De Niro thing.
It's like, if it was a dude, there's something about guys where I just think maybe it's my own sexism, but I'm like, yeah, you talk to a guy the way you talk to a guy.
But to a woman, it's like, you don't fucking talk to her that way.
And that is, I think, most people, whether they'll admit that or not, feel that to some degree.
Gay Marriage Town Hall Issues00:15:21
No, what does she look like?
She's got more crevices in it than a dirty butthole.
Well, De Niro's been pounding on her for a while, I guess.
By the way, speaking of gender roles, so last night they had like an LGBT town hall meeting.
And oh my God, was it a fucking weird?
It was a weird fucking show, man.
A weird show.
So they had all the Democratic candidates.
Probably the biggest scholars of our entire culture.
Yeah.
That's why you got to listen to these people.
They're the academics.
They're the ones with the big ideas.
And they're the ones that we really have to spotlight.
It was so ridiculous because, so all the Democratic candidates come, there were basically like four questions that were asked.
To showcase how much they care.
This is the chance to.
But so there were basically like a few questions.
Now, I would say, I don't know.
What are you doing so that I can get an abortion?
Right.
So there's, to me, basically, what I felt the way I think a lot of people did is that around the time gay marriage got legalized, you kind of went like, okay, well, that's that.
I mean, I remember because I'm, you know, I'm 36 and I was like a kid in the 90s and I remember that gay marriage was the issue that gays and lesbians cared about.
They wanted the right to get married.
Okay, most libertarians, and I personally, you know, feel like I don't really think the state should be involved in marriage.
I don't see why the government needs to legislate what your relationship is called.
That could just be between you or your church or your community or whatever.
I don't really think there needs to be a state certificate, but whatever.
That was their argument.
And they won.
They won.
They won.
State after state started legalizing gay marriage.
And then the Supreme Court came in and said all states, all 50 states, every area in America, gay marriage is now legal.
And there was an ugly side to not letting them get married in that it was mostly end-of-life shit.
Like if you had a partner for 40 years and they're sick in the hospital, you couldn't make decisions for them.
You couldn't see.
Some issues being on each other's insurance.
There was like, there were a few issues that were legitimate grievances.
But mostly I think it was that type of shit, like, you know, making decisions in a hospital and stuff like that.
Because I think once they gave like civil unions, you could be on insurance.
But anyway, okay, they won.
They won.
Now, the Supreme Court came in and basically said to the 20-something odd states that hadn't legalized gay marriage yet, guess what?
No democratic process.
It's legal.
I know you couldn't win a vote for it tomorrow, but you're overruled.
It's a constitutional issue and it's legal.
And okay, so that happened.
Now, there was basically no backlash from this.
This happened under Obama and the next Republican president.
It's not as if the Republicans elected somebody who said, we're going to overturn that Supreme Court decision and we're going to make marriage between a man and a woman again.
They basically just abandoned it.
In fact, Donald Trump was the first president ever, including Barack Obama, the first president ever who ran at the time he was running for president was pro-gay marriage.
He never was against it.
He didn't care about it at all.
The Republicans basically took the loss and went, whatever.
The polls shifted.
Basically, no one really gave a shit about the issue anymore and moved on.
And that might lead reasonable people to say, okay, I guess this is over.
You guys won.
Congratulations.
I'm just getting started.
And then it's almost like the activism got dialed up to fucking 11.
And now they made it the, as Chappelle would call it, the alphabet people.
It's not just about gay and lesbian, but now it's really, it's LGBT.
And really the Ts seem to be running the show.
And the T's also probably seem to be the thing that I would say most people, if not willing to say it publicly, would privately go, find it to be a little weird.
I've never heard anybody, even the people who are accused of like being the most hardcore haters, you know, of transgender people.
I've never heard anybody publicly advocating, and maybe there's someone, but I certainly haven't heard them.
Anyone publicly advocating that people should not be allowed to have gender reassignment surgery, that people should not, there should be laws against transition.
Yeah, like I've never heard anyone arguing this.
However, I have heard people say, I don't consider you a woman because you had surgery.
I think this is kind of crazy.
I think people who do this are kind of weird.
And from the libertarian perspective, you would go, look, it's an obvious answer.
Look, you have a right to do whatever you want to.
If you can find a doctor who's willing to perform that surgery, you have a right to do that.
But I also have a right to feel how I feel.
And you don't get to rewrite biology.
Like, you don't get to tell me that I can't believe in biology anymore.
I think teams go great on tits on Asians.
So, you know, you can't take that away from me, Davey.
And we've all known you felt that way for a long time.
You've been on record with that opinion.
And that's your right.
You have a right to feel that way.
But anyway, so now they're all so they go in there, and basically the questions are things like, um, it was like the same questions over and over again.
It was like things like, would you, you know, if churches don't believe in gay marriage, should they lose their tax-exempt status?
Uh, if, you know, transgender is in the military, like a few other questions.
And every single candidate gave the exact same answer on every single question.
It was so, such a waste of time.
There was no one who differentiated themselves at all.
They all just agreed, yes, We're with you.
Wait, a church should lose their tax-exempt status if they don't believe in gay marriage.
But how do you test their game, like if they don't let a gay couple pray there or something?
Well, if they, well, I guess if they wouldn't marry a gay couple, so right now.
If you're a church and a gay couple wants to have their own wedding, and you won't give their wedding, you lose your tax-exempt status.
That's insanity.
Yeah, sure is.
I mean, that's not separation of religion.
No, it's very, very creepy.
It's the state.
Now, you could argue from a libertarian point of view that why is it that a church gets tax-exempt status and some other organizations don't?
But the answer is to lower taxes for everybody, not raise the church's taxes.
And for the government to come in and say, you will only get this tax break if you practice our left-wing religion is very, very creepy.
Do you know how gay you have to be to force your church to marry you?
Very.
I mean, that's like that's a different level of just being gay.
Yeah.
And not even in the homosexual way.
No.
Just like you're being a faggot about it.
Get over it.
Just go get married anywhere else.
Why are you going to make the priest marry you?
So it was a creepy event.
But then also there'd be like all these times, like there were several different times where just like crazy transgender people, this one crazy black transgender woman just grabbed the mic and like rushed up to the stage.
And there were this whole weird thing.
Yeah, you, yeah, if you can pull that up.
And then also the other one that I wanted to get, which was my favorite, was Andrew Cuomo, while Kamala Harris was on stage, made a joke.
I love these moments when these people who are down with the cathedral of the left-wing LGBTQZXY fucking ideology have a second of being a human being.
So Cuomo fucked up royally and was a human being for a second.
Pull that one up first.
If you go to the Cuomo Kamala Harris LGBTQ and see I'm gonna go watch this thing.
I just saw the one highlight.
I didn't watch the whole thing.
The thing was like six hours long.
What?
I didn't watch the show.
Six hours of trannies yelling at the Dems.
Yeah, well, there was some gays in there too.
But it was a lot of trannies yelling at Dems.
So this was almost as make-believe land as that global warming summit.
That's what CNN did.
It was right up there.
Yeah.
CNN really has propaganda down to a science.
Last year was that remember that town hall over the guns.
That one might have been the worst one of all.
Yeah.
Wow.
But again, these things, you know, the funny thing is that they convince themselves that this is great propaganda, but you go, I really don't think this is going to play well with most of the country.
I saw someone mention they go, you know, the winner of this was clearly Donald Trump.
You've got you guys like pandering to these clearly mentally ill people.
I'm not saying all of them are mentally ill, but a few of them clearly were.
I think the transgender lady, if I remember correctly, was yelling, how come the Dems aren't being more assertive about the problem of dead black transgender hookers?
Why isn't that the forefront of their problem was that black transgenders are dying?
No, but I thought it was black transgender prostitutes.
Oh, I'm not sure that she specified prostitutes, but we all know who.
Maybe that's just what I heard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was my filter.
I was putting my own thing in there.
We just assume you're a hooker here, right?
Do you have the Kamala Harris one with?
Here, let's pull it up.
I think I'm pretty sure if you have it.
It was the intro to.
Can you imagine what that debate would look like if Hillary Clinton opened with like, the problem in this country, it's all the black transgender dead prostitutes.
Do we have the video?
All right, let's play it.
Here we go.
Yeah, this is it.
Good to see you, Senator.
Thank you for joining us.
Appreciate it.
How are you?
Anna.
Thank you, guys.
And my pronouns are she, her, and hers.
She, her, and hers.
Line two.
All right.
All right, pause it right there.
So, ooh, Cuomo.
That is a no-no at the LGBT town hall.
So she said, my pro, which, by the way, this is just drives me.
Look, even if you get down, even if you accept the LGBTQ fucking whole program and you're like, it's like, okay, right.
And even if I accept, I'll call you the pronoun that you prefer, which, by the way, I will say, in life, I do.
But you gotta, but it can't be too confusing.
Like, if you want to give me something really specific that breaks the norm and like you think, I don't know, what I'm really gonna do is...
I've met plenty of transgender people in my life.
And if there's a guy who transitioned to being a woman and is a woman now, I'm not gonna call him him when I'm talking to him because it's kind of a dick move.
So you'll be like, yeah, she.
Okay, no problem.
Now, if I fuck up and make a mistake, that's whatever.
You know, it is what it is.
But I'll be like, yeah, I'll call you what you, if you're wearing a dress and you have tits or whatever, it's like, yeah, I'm going to call you she.
That seems reasonable.
But if we're just discussing it, like having a discussion as adults, you'd be like, is that a woman?
I would go, well, no, biologically, that's not a woman.
You have an XY chromosome.
You're not that you're, you are biologically not a woman.
And these terms mean something.
So fine.
But look, if you want to say that there's somebody who's like, I was born a man, I had gender reassignment surgery and I identify as a woman now.
And that person wants to go, hey, my pronouns are she, her.
Okay.
Fine.
But for just a chick, a regular woman to go, oh, and by the way, my pronouns are she, her.
It's like, yeah, we know.
You see this stuff?
By the way, Bobby, I does, half the people who give Legion a skank shit, like the fucking Twitter, you'll click on it and it's some dude who's like, his, him pronouns.
It's like, why do you need to specify this?
For thousands of years, we've all known.
That's what you call a dude.
It's like, yeah, you don't need, like, by the way, my name is Dave Smith.
I don't have polio.
I am free of lupus.
Like, why do you need to specify the things that the vast majority of people are?
It's so rare.
So she comes out.
She says, my pronouns are her, she.
And then Chris Cuomo, he goes, me too.
He just had a funny.
He just had a funny moment of saying, well, he actually said mine too.
But he just had a funny, honest moment of going right, which is kind of a funny response.
Me too.
And it got nothing in the crowd.
And then he had to take to Twitter and apologize.
Oh, it was glorious.
He goes, well, I'm an ally of the transgender community and I'm sorry I shouldn't have made that joke, blah, blah, blah.
But misgendering is, according to them, violence.
That's what it is.
Oh, go play that clip if you can find it.
This was actually my favorite moment of the night.
So from LGBT Town Hall, say, shit.
Fuck, I'm blanking on the fucking woman's name.
But if you just want to say LGBT, shit, I'm trying, because she says it's violence.
Misgendering is violence.
Let me actually see if I can pull up the clip.
Or maybe I'll just tell you about it because I'm actually not sure what you would tweet to get it.
Basically, one of the um one of the CNN hosts.
I can't remember which one it was.
It'd be fun to see Trump do one of these rallies.
Listen, girl, you want to wave your picture in the men's room?
I don't care.
I don't care.
We've got big problems in America.
We don't win anymore.
And the last thing I'm going to do is worry about this he she.
Listen, I've attended ORGs.
I get it.
Okay.
You want to fuck a dude and then fuck a chick and call yourself a lady.
It's okay.
And next, Secretary Castro, I want to.
Oh, hold on.
Fuck.
I wish I could give more.
Oh, hold on.
Here.
Yeah, I think I found it.
So let me see.
Here, hold on.
I'm going to retweet it now, Bobby.
And then...
Hold on, let me just make sure it's the right.
Fuck.
Oh, no, it's not in this article.
All right.
So more or less, this CNN anchor mispronounces this transgender woman's name.
And she goes, like, it was like, her name was like Shia, but she called her Shay or something like that.
A singer.
And so she calls her Shay.
And then this transgender woman, this man who's transitioned to being a woman, goes, she was like, Shay, you have the next question.
And she goes, it's Shia.
She goes, excuse me.
She goes, misgendering.
You got it?
Oh, okay.
Here, let's play it.
Yep.
Shay, what's your question?
It's she a diamond.
She a diamond.
Put that on record.
Okay.
It's on the record.
Thank you.
Yes, honey.
It's violence to misgender or to alter a name of a trans person.
That's cool that Patrice has hold on.
Did you catch what she said?
Here, pull it back a little bit, Bobby.
Or to alter a name of a trans person, honey.
It's violence to misgender or to alter a name of a trans person.
So let's always get that right first.
Rest Us Pretend New Dick00:05:49
She didn't even believe it when she said that.
Okay, so yeah, so let's, that's it.
That's the moment right there.
This is so, by the way, there's no question.
My only point is that a lot of times libertarians, particularly the left libertarian variety, will kind of be like, well, we believe in LGBT freedom or something like this.
And it's like, look, man, I believe in everybody's freedom to do what they want to do.
But there is no question what side of this issue we should be on.
That's what they're just going to say.
They're literally just mentally ill people bullying the rest of us now.
Oh, it's violence for me to misread your name.
Violence.
Well, I guess you're just entitled now to make up whatever.
I mean, we're already allowing you to change the definitions of words.
I mean, if you can change the definition of man and woman, why can't you change the definition of violence?
By the way, that's violence.
So in other words, because let's take what you're saying there seriously.
This is violence for me to read your name as Shay instead of Shia or whatever.
Okay, that's violence.
So now if somebody came up and was violent toward you and you responded with violence, you're justified.
That's considered self-defense.
If somebody comes up and attacks you and you knock them out, that is self-defense.
That will hold up legally in a court of law.
So I guess she's saying she could assault that CNN anchor now because she mispronounced her name.
She made a mistake.
Then said sorry and corrected herself.
And then she's going to lecture you.
That's violence.
And we have to pretend.
The rest of us are supposed to pretend that this dude in a chick is making a valid point.
This dude.
No, I fucked that up.
Anyway, the point is we're supposed to pretend that this is like a reasonable point.
I mean, come on.
You know, this actually kind of reminded me of the thing with China, with Steve Kerr and all these guys.
It's like, at what point, guys, if you will let like if you're just such a bitch that you won't call out an obvious truth because you're afraid of a little bit of pushback, like, look, man, take a little bit of pushback now rather than being sent to a gulag later.
Like, just deal with it now.
This is insanity.
Okay, you can go do whatever you want to do.
You can call yourself whatever you want to call yourself, but you don't get to lecture the rest of us.
You don't get to tell the rest of us that we have to call you what you want to be called.
And you definitely don't get to say that if someone calls you the wrong name, it's violence.
By the way, it doesn't even make sense.
The argument of misgendering is whatever, that's already retarded enough.
But the argument that if someone mispronounces your name, why only a trans, why only a transgender person?
What if someone just mispronounces one of our names?
Is that, that's okay?
Fucking free show.
And every single one of the Democratic nominees has to just bitch themselves out and sit there through this whole thing and go, yes, yes, you're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
No one, not a single one of these people who want to be commander in chief of the most powerful military that's ever existed has the balls to go, well, that's not violence.
I mean, that's not violence.
It might offend you.
Maybe she should get your name right, but it's certainly not violence.
No one has the balls to say that.
That most basic, simple, obvious truth.
You can't just say that.
And can you imagine if one of them did?
The pushback that they would get.
I mean, I'm sorry.
This is just craziness.
Wouldn't it be great if they had like sportscasters on the side broadcasting like we don't even know what that thing is?
Well, there's another one coming up to the plate, and it's some type of mystery meet over here.
I don't know.
Get your bets in.
It sounds like a man's voice, but that doesn't mean anything here.
Jesus Christ.
But what a weird fucking thing.
And the funny thing is like, you know, I remember we were talking about it before when De Blasio was asked, you know, would your Medicare for All plan cover gender reassignment surgery?
And he was like, yes, absolutely it would.
And you're like, okay, but I'm telling you, this is handing.
It's handing Trump one more issue to win on.
This is going to be a home run for Donald Trump to see his opponents just, even if he never brings it up.
Most Americans, it's still a private ballot.
It's a secret ballot.
You go in and you vote secretly.
And most Americans look at this shit and go, this is a bit crazy.
Why do you have to be a lady and get a dick?
I want a new dick.
I want a bigger one.
It makes me feel uncomfortable.
I've heard from several of your lovers.
You could use a new dick.
Yeah, so how do I?
That's what they say.
How do I call up deblasio?
Be like, oh, how do I apply for this new dick program?
Well, you're out of luck because he didn't win.
He dropped out of the race.
Oh, fuck me.
So there's no new dick Medicare program.
What about this 1,000, the Yang guy?
He must be pro new dicks.
Did you?
By the way, probably.
Well, he'll give you the money and you can buy a new dick with it if you want to.
Did you see the Bernie Sanders video post-heart attack?
Oh, he's got his energy back, right?
No.
Oh, he's all tired and shit.
But he was tired even before the heart attack.
On Joe Rogan, he was like sleepy.
Yeah, on Joe Rogan, he was sleepy, but everywhere else, he was angry, Joe.
It was very weird, though, right?
Because Bernie Sanders is always like, we need a minimum wage of 15 bucks.
We need Medicare for All.
And then he gets on Rogan and he's like, well, Joe, I just, I want to say that, I think.
But I think he was just doing like an NPR radio voice thing.
He's tired.
Let's just say, we don't even need to play the video, Bobby.
It's fine.
Not once he was hired by Bernie Sanders.
Well, we got to wrap up anyway.
I'll just say that he looked like a 78-year-old who just had a heart attack.
And, you know, it's too bad.
But this guy's, I mean, I never thought he had a shot.
I never thought he was really trying to win.
But he's done.
He's going to be out of this race.
He's saying he's getting back on the campaign.
But look, there's no way a 78-year-old who just had a heart attack is getting elected.
Well, that's like he said.
I think he's overplaying that card.
Wants out, and then he gets to be like, Listen, I tried to fight to the bitter end.
I didn't have the health, but now you guys are the young people.
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You can get out there and buy my books so that you'll see the ideas.
He'll make his money.
But the more interesting thing that's going on here is that Elizabeth Warren, although the latest poll.
It's coming together for her.
Well, the latest poll had Joe Biden back out front, but she was the front runner in a few of the national polls.
The national polls don't matter so much, but in Iowa and New Hampshire, she's been surging.
And Bernie Sanders falling apart.
You have to think at least two to one of his supporters are going to go to her over Joe Biden.
So Elizabeth Warren right now is looking like the favorite for the nominee, which is just, it's really just wild because I just, you know, short of some economic collapse or some crazy thing, I cannot see her beating Donald Trump.
But that's just early predictions.
Still very early to see.
Anyway, that's our show for today.
Thanks for listening.
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