Dave Smith and Robbie the Fire Bernstein critique Democratic candidates for promoting "freedom minus" policies like the Green New Deal, arguing they destroy working-class jobs while elites fly private jets. They contend these radical proposals inadvertently aid Donald Trump and ignore the necessity of China's participation in climate solutions. The discussion further examines Walmart's hypocrisy regarding gun bans versus its economic impact on rural America, contrasting corporate pandering to coastal elites with genuine moral conviction. Ultimately, the hosts suggest that dishonest deficit financing and religious-style assertions about climate change alienate voters, proving that extreme restrictions fail without addressing real economic costs. [Automatically generated summary]
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We need to roll back the state.
We spy on all of our own citizens.
Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
You're listening to part of the problem on the Gas Digital Network.
Here's your host, Dave Smith.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
We are here, reunited, Dave Smith, joined by Robbie the Fire Bernstein, the king of the cocks.
It's good to have you back.
It's a pleasure to be able to be here and celebrate kicking AIDS with you.
Yeah.
Well, for everyone who doesn't know, Rob had some AIDS on Monday.
I got a little bit of AIDS myself on Wednesday.
But we're both doing better.
Not AIDS-free, but it's something you live with.
It's something you learn how to live with.
And, you know, we're doing what we can.
I made the mistake.
I wasn't drinking, so it really flared up.
But now I'm back to drinking, so I'm good.
That alcohol will clear that AIDS right up.
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Yeah.
Keeps it in check.
I don't care what YouTube puts on this page right now.
That is good science.
AIDS is in fact a virus that cannot be confused by alcohol consumption.
The consensus amongst the medical community is that alcohol will in fact not clear up your AIDS.
Would it be great if they had to put so many of those boxes there you couldn't get comments anymore?
At this point, the whole goal of the podcast is just to get as many of those as many of those corrections from YouTube as possible.
So since we've last been in the studio, there's been some developments.
We'll talk about a few of these things.
But I'd want to start the show with a conspiracy theory.
Ooh.
As I've been delving into more and more lately.
Now, I'm not starting this by saying that this is true.
I just think it's an interesting thought experiment.
Okay.
So I'm not trying to sell you on this.
I just want to tickle you a little bit with it.
Okay.
Just a guy with AIDS trying to tickle you.
No big deal.
What if everybody didn't want to be president?
Everyone running and Donald Trump all didn't want to be president.
Let's say they were all trying to blow it.
What would that look like?
And how would it be any different from what we're seeing right now?
I mean, Donald Trump might start fucking putting up maps with Sharpies added on to storms and then sticking by it.
And, you know, the Democratic nominees might try everything they possibly could to own every position that will make you unelectable.
Pretty much everything we're seeing right now.
Now, I'm not saying everybody's trying to blow it.
I'm just saying if they were, could they be doing a better job than they are right now?
You have in the Democratic primary against this president, who's, let's say, fairly vulnerable, I think is a fair way to sum up where Donald Trump's at.
I mean, he's making some Hail Mary last ditch effort now to try building the wall.
It's like, I don't know.
Making Pentagon money, right?
Yeah, they're diverting some Pentagon money.
We'll see if this actually ends up happening or what's, you know, he's alienated a lot of his base.
His approval numbers have never been very good.
You know, he's constantly kind of putting his foot in his own mouth.
He's got, of course, as he always has, he's got the entire media against him.
He's got all of the elites, you know, Hollywood, academia, all these different forces against him.
Pretty vulnerable guy.
And the Democrats, basically, three frontrunners have emerged at this point.
There's the guys Beto Arour crashed and burned.
Kamala Harris turned out to be nothing.
Mayor Pete Butt stuff is just doing butt stuff.
They've got three.
They've got a senile liar who's bleeding from his eyes.
They've got a socialist pushing abortion as a eugenics program and yelling at babies.
And they've got a fake Indian.
And I'll be honest, the fake Indian is beginning to seem like the rational choice for the Democrats.
I did not think they could get to this point that they're actually making Warren seem like maybe she is the one to go with.
And Warren will be dismantled by Donald Trump.
That is a guarantee.
So it's an interesting place that we're at.
Now, they had CNN subjected airport travelers all around the country to seven hours of a climate change town hall, which almost seemed like a competition to see who could ensure that they have no chance of winning more than the next person.
It really was something.
Now, you watched all seven hours of this, right?
You actually had to go to JFK just to get CNN and then watch seven hours.
I watched it twice.
I thought I missed a couple of the moments.
You watched it once, then you had to show your chick.
You're like, oh, babe, you got to watch this.
I'll watch it again with you.
I took a few too many bathroom breaks.
They went over the commercials, and I was like, I missed a couple of the highlights.
I got to go back and watch that thing again.
Here's the thing, man, with this whole, and I know we just did an episode recently on climate change, so I'll try not to repeat what we said too much, but you know, if you look around, there's a lot of polling that's done.
You remember we were talking about in the last episode where climate change ranks in terms of importance as an issue.
And it was like third with very liberal Democrats.
Then it was something like seventh with average Democrats.
And then it was way down with everybody else.
But there's something about these polls where, just for example, and you can find this like borne out if you actually look into polls on different issues.
But so if you were to poll America, how do you feel about socialized medicine?
Wouldn't do very well.
But if you poll them, how do you feel about Medicare for all?
It does a lot better.
Now, there's no difference between those two, those two questions.
It's just one is presented in a way that sounds nicer.
Yeah.
So for all, I don't want to be excluded.
And Medicare, that's kind of, you know, that's something that we've all accepted as a program, you know?
So, okay, Medicare for everybody, whatever.
But if you go, how about a government takeover of the medical industry?
You'd get very low numbers on that.
Now, one of the other things about Medicare for all is if you just ask people, you go, how do you feel about Medicare for all?
You'll do pretty well.
You'll get a decent number, certainly over 50%.
But if you were to go, how do you feel about Medicare for all, but your taxes are going to go up?
The number drops dramatically.
Like, even if it's like a thing where it's like your taxes will go up marginally, it drops dramatically.
So, and, you know, you would think you'd want to give people enough credit that you're like, well, you see every week or every couple of weeks that you pay a certain amount for Medicare, right?
And this, you're covered after you're 65.
So if we're going to cover you for the first 65 years of life, you would think that number would have to go up, right?
You'd have to be paying a little bit more.
I know, wild, crazy economic views like that.
But people don't really think it through that way.
Unless you present it like that in a polling question, you're not going to get the answer.
Now, likewise, with climate change, if you just ask someone, how do you feel about climate change?
Or is climate change important to you?
You might get one number in the poll.
It's like, oh, hey, all the scientists believe this thing.
What do you think about that?
And you'd be like, oh, yeah, should we address climate change?
Should we take bold steps to address climate change?
You can get some decent numbers with all this stuff.
But if you actually ask people, how would you feel about your taxes going up 10% for climate change?
Go see what type of number you get for that.
Forget that.
Tell me you can't use your iPhone once a week.
Well, that's what, and this is what the Democrats actually started getting into in this debate.
We'll play a little bit of a few clips from that.
But it's really quite something where, and this is in a way, there's something infuriating about this, but then there's also a real positive takeaway for people who are into the whole freedom thing.
So I'll give you a comparison, right?
So when you would see all of the war propaganda for, say, the war in Iraq, or even just, you know, when Donald Trump bombed Syria and you saw CNN was nice to him for the first time ever in his presidency, all of a sudden, remember, is Brian Williams on NBC is like, oh, look at the beautiful bombs bursting off.
And, you know, CNN is like, well, he looks so presidential when he was doing this.
And it's easy to look at this, or even the war in Iraq, you know, all the stuff about weapons of mass destruction and they're working with al-Qaeda.
It's easy.
Your first impulse could be to look at that and be disgusted.
Like, holy shit, this is truly disgusting.
These people are like, you know, blood-soaks monsters.
I mean, who the fuck just pushes people into these conflicts where human beings die?
Like, this is horrible.
And that's true.
But then there's almost a silver lining within it that you go, oh, wow, this is what's needed in order to get people on board with this stuff.
And what you can kind of logically deduce from that is that, oh, people wouldn't have been on board to just go start killing a whole bunch of Iraqis if you hadn't lied to them for a year straight, like inundated them with complete bullshit propaganda to convince them that this was a just war.
Because in a sense, if Saddam was sitting on stockpiles of nuclear weapons and had been working with al-Qaeda and was threatening to give these nukes to terrorists to use against us, then maybe it would be justified to fight this war.
So you almost have to convince them it's justified to get people on board with the war.
Like they kind of don't want to fight the war if it's not justified.
There's a silver lining in there somewhere.
Okay.
There's something in there where you could go, oh, okay.
So maybe there is in fact some remnant within people, not just the remnant itself, but like within everybody, there's some remnant of where they're like, oh, yeah, they don't want to do the wrong thing here.
And maybe there's something that we can, you know, be optimistic about with that stuff.
With the climate change conversation, or forget even the climate change conversation, if people, when people say we're going to have an $11 trillion plan, like Bernie Sanders does, but he won't say, hey, I'm going to raise $11 trillion in new taxes in the next 10 years.
That's where we're going to get this from.
And you go, ooh, holy shit.
That's going to be a lot of taxes.
I mean, you're talking about, what do we bring in?
We bring in like around $3 trillion a year right now in federal revenue from tax revenue.
So if you're talking about, you know, $10 trillion, let's say just to round it off, make it easy, $10 trillion over 10 years, a trillion dollars a year.
You're talking about a 25%, wait, hold on, a 33% increase in tax revenue.
So if you were to go around and go, hey, we got to fight climate change and all of your taxes are going up 33%, that would be like a way more honest way to do it.
But of course, they don't say that because it's like, oh, this will just be, I guess, deficit financed or maybe the Fed will come in and print the money.
Now, as freedom lovers, as we are, you kind of look at that and it's infuriating because it's dishonest.
And you're like, look, if you want the money, just ask people to pay the money and we'll see how people really feel about it, you know?
And I felt that way with the wars.
How about you ask everybody?
You say everybody's got to kick in 500 bucks a month because we got to fight this war in Iraq.
And we all know the war would end pretty fucking soon.
But they don't do that.
They borrow the money.
They print the money.
Now, what's so dishonest about that is that if you borrow the money, it's essentially just a promise that we'll pay it back later.
So you're just saying, well, I know you wouldn't want to pay it now.
So we'll just have your kids pay it or we'll have you in the future pay it.
And if you print the money, as we all know, it's basically the same thing.
You're just stealing the value of the dollar from people.
So it's very dishonest.
But my point is that there is a silver lining in the fact that they have to go the deficit financing route or they have to go the inflation financing route because there's an admission in that, which is that they know.
All these guys know.
If we were just straightforward and asked you to sacrifice what we're asking you to sacrifice, no one would be on board with it or next to no one.
Certainly not enough to get it done.
So there's the silver lining.
These things, these pro it's like when people say to me, like, oh, Medicare is such a popular program.
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And you're like, okay, great.
Let's make the payments voluntary.
We'll find out real quick how popular it is.
You know, the income tax is popular.
Like, okay.
Okay, great.
Well, if it's so popular, then make it voluntary.
And then we'll find out exactly how popular it is.
But I don't think you want to do that because I think you're a little afraid that maybe it's not so popular.
Maybe getting robbed isn't as popular as people think it is.
So that's, I just want you to keep that in mind.
Now we're going to dive into some clips.
I have to start with, and we'll get back into all the climate change stuff, but I have to start with the one that's gotten the most heat, which has gotten the most viral from what I've seen, which was Bernie Sanders, who managed to his credit.
I want to be fair on this show.
And a lot of times we're hard on Bernie Sanders.
I don't just want to bash him.
Bernie Sanders, he did not bleed out of either one of his eyes.
That's pretty good.
During this climate change town hall.
So you got to give him credit for that.
I know it's a struggle every podcast for me to not start bleeding out of my eyes.
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Here's Bernie Sanders at the Climate Change Town Hall talking about the huge problem in the world, which is, of course, people.
Another question from our audience.
Martha Redioff.
It's a teacher from New Milford, Connecticut.
Martha, welcome.
Good evening.
Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years.
The planet cannot sustain this growth.
I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it's crucial to face.
Empowering women and educating everyone on the need.
Okay.
So.
Wait, are you taking issue with those factually accurate statements?
Oh, I mean, it's just said like it's a factual given that the planet cannot sustain this population growth.
Not even close to a factually accurate statement, but this teacher seems to think it is.
Now, I thought there was also something when we're talking about these silver lining things.
There was something there where she goes, I know this is a difficult topic for politicians.
Okay.
Well, there's some truth to that.
I wish everybody should, right?
No matter what your opinions are on any issue, you should try to look at them from the other perspective.
Try to maybe read something that criticizes what you believe.
It's the, you know, we all know nobody likes the, you know, the feeling of cognitive dissidence.
People always search out confirmation bias.
But if you want to be at all credible and be able to speak about anything you believe about intelligently, you should look at it that way.
And maybe somebody who's, you know, pushing this line of environmentalist religious crap should just think it's like, man, if I were like watching a movie of myself right now, would I be the bad guy?
You know, if you if you are anti-human to the point where you think it's really terrible that the population is growing.
Well, a big part of the reason why the population is growing is because people like to fuck.
Well, that's part of it.
But you know, Rob, that's pretty much been a constant for all of human history.
And it's true.
So you can kind of remove that from it.
With technological developments, people can fuck more.
No, you really didn't need a lot of technology to fuck.
It's pretty much the oldest technology in the game.
However, you do need some technology and some medical advancement so that your babies don't die.
Oh, you don't die giving it.
Right.
Yeah.
So basically, the fact is that, you know, all around the world, the infant mortality rate has gone way down because the extreme poverty rate has gone way down.
You know, people have enough food to sustain life.
And if you see this as a bad thing, and you are, by the, I mean, as I'm not trying to caricature this woman's position, this is this is an anti-human position to take.
Just saying if you're anti-human, that's usually not the good guy in the movie, the person who's anti-human.
So maybe the reason why this is difficult for politicians to take is because it's difficult for politicians to just go out and be like, yeah, I'm against people for eugenics and for soft genocide.
That's a tough one.
That's tough to run on and win on and move forward with.
But you know what?
Bernie Sanders is bold enough that he's willing to talk about these difficult issues, like hating humans.
Okay, let's play.
To curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact.
Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?
Morphy, the answer is yes.
And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.
And the Mexico City Agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control, to me is totally absurd.
So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have.
Something I very, very strongly support.
All right.
So there is Bernie Sanders going on record that we should use abortion as population control.
A little bit creepy, if you ask me.
It's a little bit creepy.
The idea that you should that we want essentially, I mean, what Bernie Sanders is saying is that we want poor countries to stop reproducing.
But part of what he's saying is birth control related.
I think he's referring to not abortion, but taking birth control pills.
Yes, that was part of it.
But abortion was also part of it.
That's the creepy part.
Yeah.
I mean, look, birth control, yeah, sure.
Okay.
I have no problem with birth control, but it just pulls out method myself.
Yeah, that's the perfect.
That's the oldest birth control in the book.
But it is pretty weird to start talking about the idea of subsidizing abortion in third world countries so that, you know, they just don't have too many of these kids.
I would think, you know, the more humane method would be to say, like, well, I'd want, you know, children to eat well and thrive.
And, you know, I think of children being born as generally a positive thing.
But hey, that's just me.
Bernie Sanders also had another little run-in with a baby this week.
Let's play that clip.
Bad to have on the business.
You have to cut your pills in half for your son.
Okay.
Okay.
If we could keep that down a little bit.
Okay, thanks.
All right, let's pause there.
So that's Bernie Sanders.
Asking a baby to keep it down.
I'm just saying, if you start promoting abortion-based eugenics in a week, you probably shouldn't finish off the week by asking a baby to keep it down.
Well, that baby clearly knew economics and was listening to what Bernie Sanders said.
That baby, I would argue, has a far deeper understanding of economics than Bernie Sanders.
You don't want a baby to listen to.
He hasn't got a calm voice.
That's not going to keep your baby, put your baby to bed.
Excuse me, baby.
Can you imagine Bernie Sanders being your father?
That's just how he would talk to you if you were a baby.
Excuse me.
I'm going to need you to keep it down.
I'm thinking of ways to redistribute more of the wealth.
So there's Bernie Sanders doing everything he can to just be as weird and creepy as Bernie Sanders can be.
But he was not alone.
There was a lot of them at the climate debate.
Here's the little video montage clip of some of the highlights.
I did not watch all seven hours of this.
I'm sorry.
Even I have my limitations.
But here's some clips of the Democrats doing their best to become unelectable.
This is on par with winning World War II.
Would you ban offshore drugs?
Absolutely yes.
Banning certain behavior.
Do you ban plastic straws?
I think we should.
Do you ban fragment?
Absolutely yes.
But the export of fossil fuels from the United States, would you ban that?
Absolutely.
We must get to that point.
We can do that just on public lands.
No, no, no.
We can undo by executive action.
We have a real priority at the highest level of government.
Prohibit the permitting on public.
That was a very interesting thing that was going on in the debate to me was that at times people were being like Elizabeth Warren was asked about, hey, would you force people to use a certain style of light bulb?
Or I believe the hamburger question came up a couple times of under your plan would people and it's so interesting because I they can admit it, but all their platforms are against like free choices.
Yes.
And every time that they're asked about it, they always lie because anytime if you actually admit the fact, yes, we are going to limit choices and people are not going to be able to have their preferred anytime you ask a leftist in the abstract about freedom or choice, they'll just kind of laugh at you, like the idea that I'm trying to limit choices.
It's like, no, we want to give people more choices.
What do you, you know, it'll be like when Ben Burgess was here on the podcast and his take, which is like, you know, you, you libertarians, I mean, you have this truncated view of what freedom really is.
I mean, how much freedom do you have if you're relying on your boss to employ you?
And I mean, if you don't have housing and health care and all these other things guaranteed, what does that freedom really mean?
You know, you're not going to have real freedom till you have all these things taken care of.
And then you got, we're not trying to limit anyone's choices.
We're just giving you even more freedom.
You know, it's basically liberty plus.
It's liberty plus healthcare plus the plus that.
So it's like, oh, yeah, you know, like we just have our silly little, our little truncated, kind of, you know, very narrowly defined version of freedom.
But they have this bigger freedom that includes all this other stuff.
Why wouldn't you want the freedom plus?
It comes with stuff.
Freedom.
Now with stuff.
For the, you know, same price as freedom.
You get the stuff too.
And it's like, okay, that kind of sounds, that's, that sounds reasonable, except that one necessarily comes at the other's expense.
The plus is at the expense of the freedom.
So all of that stuff has to be taken from you by force.
So it's like, oh, oh, okay, it sounds like, but and then when you actually get into the devil of the details, they don't like these questions.
It's the same way when they ask these guys who are advocating gun control.
They start to get down to the specifics.
Like, so what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
You're going to force, will people be forced to give up their guns?
How are you going to take them?
What about when they don't voluntarily give them up?
Then what?
And they don't like these questions.
But when it comes down to this, it's like, yeah, it's just a list of shit we're going to ban.
Shit, you're going to tell you you can't do.
And by the way, this will be enforced through the barrel of a gun.
You can't fucking do all this shit.
Now, that's one part of it, is that it's like, yeah, oh, no.
And you start, it's like, yeah, oh, when it actually comes down to it, you're not freedom plus, you're freedom minus.
And the minus is the freedom.
You're the antithesis of freedom.
I'm trying to give people freedom plus health care.
It's slavery plus health care.
You know, it's like, this is, this is not at all consistent with liberty.
And there's something about that that really bugs me because when I present the idea of liberty, you go, no, that's not liberty enough.
We need even more liberty.
But you're taking away from the very basic idea of people being able to choose what products they use.
Then the other thing about it is that it's like on top of, I mean, they just rely on people having zero understanding of economics.
Like the idea that we can just ban offshore drilling, ban fracking, ban all these things, and not even, not even go nuclear.
We're not even going into nuclear power.
No, no, no.
We're going to put a moratorium on nuclear power as well.
The idea that this will just, but we'll still be in the same world, basically.
But there won't be a drastic impact.
They can't.
I'm painting it like there's some evil people who are just making sure that we continue to use these things, even though it's negative for us.
Yes.
That's it.
If we just have to wave our magic wand that's going to get these evil villains to not be able to print their profits by doing things like doing offshore drilling.
There's literally no reason for us to drill offshore.
We've got other means of electricity.
Right.
I mean, do you know?
Fracking hasn't saved our country from what we're doing.
Just take fracking out of our economy over the last decade.
There's no, I mean, we're a drastically lower standard of living across the board, particularly in the most vulnerable areas.
And this is the really crazy thing is that the people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, and to a lesser extent, the rest of them, but they all claim to be champions of the downtrotten.
Like they all claim to be the champions of, you know, the big problem is inequality because of these people who have so little.
It's the workers, right?
This is what like what all these kind of neo-socialists all talk about is like the working class.
This is who they really care about.
Yet they have no, like they just can't make the connection between the fact that like your policies would destroy those people, destroy them.
And I think with the fracking thing, it's essentially if we didn't have fracking, we'd have less of an ability to control oil prices because there would be no competition to Saudi Arabia and the massive oil producers.
And so prices would be way, way up.
Oh, okay.
That's essentially what kind of took the bottom out of like from the four and $5 gas prices or whatever.
Well, it's a huge part of it, but it's also just the jobs that it creates.
I mean, the jobs it creates, the economic activity that's created when you are producing something that not only Americans want to buy, but other countries want to buy as well.
You want to take one of the last things that we're actually making here?
I mean, this is so nutty.
But yeah, it's just a laundry list of what you're going to ban.
But my thing is like, go for it.
Run on this.
Just run on it.
This is all.
Everything we've played so far is just ammo for Donald Trump.
Ammo for Donald Trump.
I'm running on what we're going to take away from you guys.
What we're going to, you know, Hillary Clinton let it slip as she goes, we're going to put a whole lot of coal miners out of business.
And look at what that did for her.
Taxing Carbon Like Cigarettes00:02:28
What do you think?
You're going to win coal country after that shit?
Of course not.
They see what's going on there.
I mean, it like, yeah.
All right.
Let's keep playing from the montage.
You go after them.
You try to change the law.
You're going to have to spend a lot of federal money on.
Get rid of the filibuster to pass a green new deal.
Yeah, to reduce red meat specifically.
Yes.
In the same way that we have taxed cigarettes, we're going to have to tax carbon.
I need to say that those who are throwing the carbon.
Pause it right there for a second.
So in the same way that we've taxed cigarettes, we're going to have to tax carbon.
But there is a slight difference between cigarettes and carbon, you know.
Because with carbon, it's something we all exhale.
It's not just cigarettes.
It's one of the fundamental building blocks of our environment.
Is it different if I walk around with the plant and the plants absorbing it?
Or if I plant plants, can I become carbon neutral?
Well, I don't know exactly, but you're going to need a lot of plants, bro.
I mean, if you're driving around, you might have to have like a couple trees on that car.
I don't know the exact ratio.
We'll look into it.
I'm sure YouTube will correct us and put the ratio on this video if you're watching it on YouTube.
Which, by the way, if you don't know, we put all the episodes up on YouTube now.
That's pretty cool.
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Syrian Civil War Climate Claims00:06:11
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Anyway, just the, anyway, okay, let's just keep playing.
I can't.
Into the air that the rest of us have to breathe, that the rest of us have to deal with are the ones who are responsible for paying for it.
Do you support a carbon tax?
Yeah, no, I wouldn't.
I will not approve any plans for the use of federal lands that are near tribal lands to our Native American brothers and sisters.
I love the vision of the Green New Deal.
To me, the only issue I have with the Green New Deal is the timing of the timeline.
File lawsuits against polluters.
propose setting aside half of American land and oceans for wildlife, for biodiversity.
Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years.
Here's the hit.
The planet cannot sustain this growth.
Yes.
And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies.
Let's talk in language that is understood across the heartland.
God is watching.
I bet he thinks it's messed up, that it's a kind of sin.
One of the reasons I love the framing of the Green New Deal is it uses some of the language that we might associate with the way that we met the response of Nazi Germany.
Oh, I guess it's 11 years that we have left.
It was the Syrian Civil War.
It was one of the first that was partly caused as a consequence of climate change.
This is one of the pernicious things.
Hold on, I missed that storyline.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's...
That was the Syrian Civil War.
It was big climate change.
It is really, man, climate change is just the religion of the left now.
I mean, the whole thing is like a goddamn religion, but climate change is really the one where you can claim anything.
Well, I mean, it really does remind me of like when Jerry Falwell used to say, like, 9-11 happened because of the gays.
This is why 9-11 happened because there's just too much gay stuff.
The butt stuff pisses off God.
And, you know, what do you think?
You think God's not going to punish you?
Well, you got all these guys rubbing dicks against butts and what do you think?
9-11's not going to happen?
And you'd be like, oh, yeah, but here, like in reality, we could talk about like al-Qaeda and the Saudi assistance and like all of this stuff.
He's like, no, Don't get lost in the weeds there, young man.
It's the butt sex.
That's what's doing it.
I mean, it's just like, okay, I mean, you're just, we're trying to talk about reality and you're just operating through a religious prism.
So like what there's really no conversation to be had here.
And there is something pretty funny about the guy who's trying to be the first openly gay president going like, listen, let me speak to these Christians right here.
Did you know that climate change is a sin?
Yeah.
Read the Bible.
It's a sin.
Like, oh, okay.
I mean, this is like 2019 is making the comedy so obvious that I want to stay away from it because it's like, I'm supposed to have to work at this to craft a joke.
You're not just supposed to hand me some gay dude talking about how carbon emissions are a sin.
Like, go ask the bio.
Go ask them.
Read the Bible.
Do you eat your husband's ass with that mouth?
Oh, shit.
What a fun time to be alive.
Okay.
The Syrian civil war started because the CIA and the Saudis decided to attempt regime change in Syria.
It's not because of fucking climate change.
Sorry.
That is the thinnest fucking connection you could possibly imagine.
There was talk of overthrowing Bashar al-Assad going back as far as, you know, I mean, we have General Wesley Clark on record saying he saw the plans in like 2003, 2004, something like that.
Probably goes back earlier than that, but it was in 2011, 2012 when they really started going after it.
And don't give me anything else about how that fucking climate change is responsible for the Syrian war.
And of course, it's the fucking military guy who's putting out.
That's a very convenient explanation.
But of course, they start the whole debate, as you had pointed out earlier.
That was wild.
We'll make you the point.
Yeah, so I was watching it in a bar when they put it on.
I was just watching the subtitles, but right off the bat, I mean, I believe he opened it up with climate change and rising sea temperatures are a threat to our existence, as you could just see in what happened in the Bahamas.
Yeah.
And to say that as being scientifically accurate, like all like everyone's proven that because of what we're doing, the Bahamas just got wiped out.
And by the way, if that's true, we better figure out who's emitting the carbon because we probably owe them a lot of fucking money.
So that should be the first conversation that we're having.
Because if it's 100% true that we just caused that, we owe them some fucking money.
We better get, we should all be down there helping them out because that's our fault.
And look, there are some like climate scientists who theorize that man-made climate change can contribute to storms being more severe.
But to just go like, oh, that hurricane, that's climate change.
It's never happened before we change the climate.
Right.
I mean, it's, it's, I don't know what else to say.
It's, it's literally the same as saying 9-11 happened because of the gay sex.
It's, it's just, this is just your religious assertion.
There's no science to back this up.
We've had hurricanes for quite a while.
Pretty incredible piece of propaganda right off the bat.
Where I mean, you're making the boldest claim that a tragic event that just took place was a result of this thing that's not a proven threat.
And therefore, we're going to spend the next seven hours dealing with the biggest threat to humanity.
Whereas without a single discussion of the science behind this threat, not the whole time.
The whole time.
So it's just a given from the outset that we've got this threat and that there's these evil corporations that will continue to print profits unless we just tell them, hey, you can't print those profits anymore.
Sacrifices for Private Jets00:08:06
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll tell you, my biggest takeaway was: even though we did a whole episode, you know, the other week kind of discussing, like, I got to do my homework on this because they're really throwing it out there as being just factually accurate as being the biggest threat.
And I was, I was being passive with the, hey, I just think this is ridiculous, but now I really got to sit down and look into the weeds of specifics about because it's not going away.
Yeah.
Well, I really, I think, though, the thing that's pretty incredible about it is that they, it's just like my biggest takeaway from the whole thing is that it's like, man, these the Democrats have so not learned their lesson from 2016, which was as simple as like, you just got to like turn off the fucking cable news,
put down the newspapers, and just think for a second.
Just think.
The people who Donald Trump convinced to jump on board with him were, you know, it was all a fucking, I'm going to help you out in your life kind of message.
Yeah.
I'm going to bring the jobs back to you.
I'm going to make your life.
This idea of just creating this kind of, you know, unseen, unknown threat, and we're all going to make all these sacrifices to go fight it.
It's like, and the thing that's so outrageous about it is that all of these people on stage, they all know that, you know, they're not making any of these sacrifices.
Every one of these motherfuckers flies around on private jets, but they're talking about whether or not you can have a hamburger.
They're not fucking making any of these sacrifices.
It's the Bernie Sanders thing.
It's like, oh, nobody should, you know, get into the 1%.
I mean, I'm going to be in the 1%.
I'm going to have three homes and have a million dollars in the bank and all that stuff.
But like, you know, other people will really have to sacrifice.
Oh, so you must give a lot of money to charity.
No, not really.
I don't really believe in that.
You know, it's like they all fucking fly around on private jets.
They're all, they all know they're going to be fine.
You know, like, who is it?
I think Nick Cillespi maybe tweeted something out about it, but Beta O'Rourke was talking about how he had to explain, you know, to his kids that certain parts of, you know, where their family was living right now might be uninhabitable in a few years and how hard this was to tell his kids.
And it's like, Beto O'Rourke's got like a net worth of like $10 million and his stepfather has a net worth of like hundreds of millions of dollars.
Where's that 10 from?
I don't, I don't know, to be honest, but his stepfather is like worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
And you're like, you're going to be fine.
Your kids are going to be fine.
You know this.
What are you acting like?
Acting like you have some, you know, like, oh my God, this might be so bad.
We may have to go live in a mansion further from the sea or something.
Like, the fuck are you talking about?
And none of them, they're all just talking about, you know, this is our World War II or whatever, but none of them are prepared to sacrifice anything.
It's just letting you know what everybody else has to sacrifice.
And the craziest part of all of this, the craziest part of all of this Green New Deal stuff, and I know we did mention this on the other one, but it's like, to me, it's like, this is a big part of what happened with the yellow jackets in France, is that you're asking this middle class and working class who's been asked to sacrifice more and more and more and more.
And it's a very similar situation to in America.
I mean, this is what got Trump elected.
And the idea that Trump is, which I think a lot of people in this mainstream political world do operate under this theory, like Trump is as crazy as it could get.
So we went to Trump.
Now we have to pull it back.
That's our big mission is to pull it back.
And it's like, dude, it can get a lot crazier than Donald Trump.
You think Trump's the craziest?
Keep pushing these people and see what they go with.
They're going to go crazier and crazier.
Like they're just, it's an equal and opposite reaction to what you're throwing at them.
So you ask these people to sacrifice more and more and more.
And of course, that's basically what happened in America over the last decade, right?
It's like the elites caused this fucking economic catastrophe.
And then they basically turned over to the working class and middle class people and said, oh, you guys got to bail us out.
You got to bail out all those elites so they can keep living like the elites.
And everything, it's been a really, the last 10 years has been a really great 10 years for the elites.
If you owned property, if you own stocks, if you own assets, you've had a great 10 years.
It's a lot of the other people who have basically been sacrificed for this.
And they ask for more and more and more from you.
And in Paris, the thing that was finally the like the straw that broke the camel's back was them saying we're going to tax gasoline.
We're going to put this tax on gasoline.
So now for every working person, it's going to be that much more expensive for you to just get to work.
And it's like, for what?
For what?
If fucking the French used a little bit less gasoline, would that change anything in this bigger picture of climate change?
If you just don't have a straw anymore, will that change anything?
No, it's nothing.
It doesn't matter because China's dumping so much goddamn plastic in the ocean.
But what you do with your straw is meaningless in the bigger picture.
So they're asking you to start sacrificing.
You know, it's like they go, well, we're not going to sacrifice.
We're going to fly around on private jets.
But we're asking, because, you know, I mean, just Beto O'Rourke not taking a private jet, what difference would that make, right?
It's like AOC not taking the fucking Uber everywhere.
What difference would that make?
But they're going to ask you to stop using plastic straws.
And you go, what difference would that make?
Well, none, none, because we don't have China on board.
But you're going to start the sacrifice first.
And people smell this.
They look around at these elites after a while and they're like, you're asking us to sacrifice everything.
Well, you sacrifice nothing.
This is bullshit.
You know, like all these people walking around, like, you know, it's like, yeah, you guys should really give in your guns.
Like, I have armed security, but you should really give up your guns.
It's like, well, why don't you start with the sacrifice?
Anyway, they don't.
The whole point, even if the Green New Deal, even if they completely destroyed our economy by forcing it to be carbon neutral in 10 years or whatever, it would do nothing.
It would do nothing for climate change unless you have China on board.
And China's not going to get on board with this.
Sounds like we got to go to war with China, which is great.
Yeah.
Very green.
The Green War.
Yeah, we might have to have a very green war with China.
Yeah, by the way, a war with China wouldn't be so great for the environment either.
Fact, it could.
That could actually destroy the world.
So anyway, this whole thing was really, really amazing.
And it's going to be.
I think that everybody embracing the Green New Deal or Green New Deal politics is, I just don't see any other way to see this than a huge victory for Donald Trump.
Just handing Donald Trump his best talking point, which is like, it's not, you know, they're trying to simultaneously make these two arguments, which is one is like this Donald Trump thing is crazy.
So we need to pull back from that and return to normal.
And also, by the way, we're changing everything that's normal.
Also, we're, you know what I mean?
You can't have a hamburger or drive a car or fly on an airplane anymore.
And it's like, wait, what?
So now we're all venturing into some crazy new shit.
And Donald Trump's is at least somewhat stable.
It just seems like a huge, this is, they're playing right into Donald Trump's hands.
I like how our values have changed from, you know, Obama had to be like, hey, you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
And now it's like, hey, man, you want your cheeseburger?
You can still have a cheeseburger.
It's like, where's this going?
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These elites standing up telling you what you're not going to be able to have anymore is quite something.
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Left Wing Pushback on Walmart00:16:06
All right, let's get back into the show.
All right.
There were a couple other things that caught my eye.
What's the next video I had up?
Was that the Tucker thing?
The Tucker one's the next.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Tucker, which we may have to do another Contra Carlson.
I think we're going to have to.
I think this requires it.
I saw this video.
You know, I disclaim this every time we talk about Tucker, but I really do love him.
I love him.
I love his show.
I find it to be the most interesting show.
I find it to be the most interesting show on cable news.
I love, you know, I love watching it.
I think it's actually a show where they talk about really interesting topics.
He talks about a lot of the most important issues, but he really gets some things wrong on economics, and it's kind of infuriating.
Anyway, he did a segment about Walmart.
And, you know, Walmart, I don't know if you saw, but they're not selling ammo anymore.
And there's something, you know.
That's fair.
Also, I saw a bunch of stores said they don't want to have open carrier in their stores, which looks like people with guns in your stores.
It's your store.
Yeah, look.
They have a right to do that.
But what Walmart did was a little bit more than that.
Walmart not only stopped selling them, but they started calling for, I think, bans of semi-automatic weapons and things like that.
Now, again, fine.
You can have it work for Walmart.
Well, that's the thing is that it's like, you know, it just seems a little bit weird that Walmart is pandering to the politics of like coastal people who aren't exactly Walmart's customer base.
But again, I do kind of think, all right, this seems like something for the market to sort out.
It's like, okay, you know, does Walmart provide enough value to their customers that they're going to overlook this thing?
And, you know, like you said, people, what are you going to do?
You're going to force people to fucking sell bullets or allow people to open carry?
I don't know.
I'd rather not see Walmart going in this direction, but what are you going to do?
Anyway, so let's play Tucker Carlson.
But first, a major shift in social policy that every American ought to be paying some attention to.
Yesterday, Walmart, which is the world's largest retailer, announced that it is now taking sides in the gun debate.
The company announced it will no longer sell handgun ammunition in its stores, nor Walmart says will it stock common rifle rounds that can be, quote, also used in large capacity clips on military-style weapons.
And then the company went even further than that.
Walmart CEO Doug McMillan issued a strident statement calling on Congress to ban many semi-automatic rifles that Americans have, as well as to seize firearms from some Americans who have not been convicted of a crime or even charged with anything.
Please pause for a second.
Sure.
That could very well be that if you don't want to sell those things in your store, then you don't want your competition to be able to have it.
Oh, yeah, no question about that.
Of course, the well, look, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of that.
I mean, look, Walmart has also supported minimum wage increases.
And you know how this stuff always is.
Of course, the big companies always want to support anything that raises up the barriers of entry.
I mean, anything that would cost the little guy a little bit more.
So I'm sure there's something to what you're saying there.
And of course, look, I think it's horrific and wrong that anyone would advocate that the state take away weapons from people.
But then again, what's the problem really there?
The problem is the state.
It's not, you know what I mean?
It's not some business who's been selling these things for years.
And the truth is that it's hard to, look, when you see all of the pressure that the government puts on some of these private companies, it's hard to just blame the companies for kind of going along with their like, well, look, we fucking, look, you've got shootings in Walmart.
You've got all of these politicians and these activists who are like using some pretty heated rhetoric.
Walmart's sitting there like, we just had this shooting.
We've been selling these weapons for a long time.
I've heard lots of different left-wing politicians talk about how gun manufacturers should be responsible.
You know what I mean?
You should be able to sue the gun manufacturers for when someone goes and shoots up a bunch of people, which is, you know, as batshit crazy an idea as I've ever heard.
And I've heard some pretty juicy ones.
But maybe Walmart's sitting there going like, oh, shit, we might be like on the hook for some of this too.
So you know what?
We're going to get on the woke side right now and go this direction.
It sucks to see it happen.
But yeah, the problem here is the state, you know, the interference.
But I agree with you.
It certainly, at the very least, would seem like a conflict of interest for you to be like, we're going to stop selling this and no one else should be allowed to sell it either.
So they can't take this business that we're giving up.
But, you know, okay, so disappointed, disappointing to hear Walmart doing that.
But let's let Tucker continue.
For a company that operates primarily in rural America, all of this was a big step.
How do rural Americans feel about it?
Well, we can only guess at that.
There's not a lot of polling going on in Tudot, Montana or Roxbury, Maine.
But we do know that in the most expensive parts of New York City and Washington and Los Angeles, all the smart people were deeply impressed.
They love Walmart now.
You know, good for Walmart for doing this.
And these are weapons of war.
Maybe what's actually happening here is Walmart is listening to its own customers and listening to the American people who want changes not only in the stores, but in society.
You have business being able to act in a more enlightened and more agile way than government does.
At least Walmart today announced new action, insisting that the status quo is unacceptable.
I was surprised, happily surprised.
I think this is a momentous decision, a watershed moment.
Uh-huh.
So now Walmart is more, quote, enlightened than government is, says liberals.
Now that's a fascinating turnaround.
All right, let's pause it right there.
That is a fascinating turnaround.
Tucker Carlson is absolutely right to report that and to say, wow, that is really fascinating that all of a sudden these liberals who have in many ways disproven their own ideology.
Because for years, I've heard liberals tell me that all corporations care about is profits and bottom lines.
And this is why they've always had no understanding of how markets actually work.
And the fact that, you know, it's all kind of human beings interacting with each other and that there's lots of things that can pressure decision making.
And there's lots of things that go into decision making other than just strictly bottom line or strictly profits.
There's a lot of different things because human beings are complex and they act in complex ways.
So that is interesting.
There's no question that's a story there that all of a sudden everyone's praising Walmart when they've been one of the most demonized companies for about as long as they've been around.
Certainly as long as I can remember, Walmart's been demonized by left-wing people, by liberals, for everything, for everything they do.
Now, that being said, the fact that their side is now contradicting themselves and compromising on their issues doesn't just mean that we go, well, now let's all start contradicting everything that we've believed in or, you know, like just a basic understanding of economics.
And so so far, by the way, I'm not against anything Tucker said.
I think this is an interesting story and it's worthy of being covered.
But here's where he starts to go into Crazyville.
You'll remember, Walmart was the target of coordinated attacks from the left.
Progressives used to attack the company for destroying small town America and for exploiting workers.
Walmart hired PR consultants and union busters to push back for years.
But the company never really changed the way it does business.
And yet somehow, the left has mostly stopped attacking them.
Hmm.
How'd that happen?
Well, part of the answer is that liberals got rich and then lost interest in economics.
They adopted identity issues instead.
But Walmart, meanwhile, figured out that it could buy immunity from criticism from the left by mouthing left-wing pieties.
That's all it takes, really.
Sounding woke and they'll leave you alone.
Notice that Walmart plans to sell the remainder of its AR-15 ammunition.
So this couldn't really be about saving lives.
Obviously, it's about the money.
It's only about the money.
And that's not a surprise because let's pause it right there.
So again, that is also a very interesting point.
I think a lot of this has been fair to report on so far.
That is pretty crazy that they're selling the rest of the ammunition.
Now, when he says, you know, the left used to care about economics and then they stopped caring about economics, you know, I don't really think that that's accurate.
I think the left still cares about economics.
They have all the same terrible economic views that they always had.
What the left does, that the right doesn't do.
Here, there's two things.
Number one, one of the reasons why you have these companies catering to the left, even when that's not most of their base, is that the left is fanatical in a way that the right isn't.
And this is what it is.
We've talked about this before.
Look, I've had, I can have Ben Burgess on my podcast.
I can have a member of the Democratic Socialists for America on the podcast.
It's not a problem.
Nobody's worried about anything.
Nobody's like, oh, we need security here.
Nobody's going to come do anything.
How about Milo?
If we try to have him on a podcast, Milo is objectively not as radical to the right as Ben Burgess is to the left.
But crazy left-wingers are trying to fucking genuinely assault people.
So you got to be prepared for a whole thing there.
Now, you saw this when you had Alabama institute that eight-week abortion rule, right?
Can't have the heartbeat law or whatever.
You can't have an abortion after eight weeks.
They're getting boycotted and Hollywood's talking about all these different things and different people aren't going to go there.
Maybe it was Georgia who's had, you know, they were saying they weren't going to film The Walking Dead there anymore, all these different things.
But New York instituted a you can get an abortion until your kid's like five rule.
And who's there's nothing.
There's no real pushback there from them.
So you get a tremendous amount of pushback on one side, next to nothing on the other.
I don't know.
Did you see any video of this?
It was in Montreal.
They opened a Chick-fil-A.
Nice.
There's fucking protests all around.
And it's like this huge fucking thing over chicken sandwiches, over a goddamn chicken sandwich.
They protest it like it's the Vietnam War.
It's like insane.
So yeah, of course people are a little bit more concerned to cater to that group because they're the ones putting all the pressure on.
Now, what the solution is to that, I don't know, but that's clearly a big part of this dynamic.
Okay.
Started a store called Fuck You Are Delicious.
Yeah.
Now, I'll tell you, there is something, and this is something that I've been talking about for years now.
And this is why cultural issues do kind of matter.
You have to acknowledge this.
But the left never gave up on economics.
I mean, listen to they just had this whole climate change summit.
They've pushed crazier and crazier on their economic views than they've ever been.
They still believe all of that.
Here's the truth about the left-wing economics.
They've won.
They've won.
This is part of the reason why they don't have to push it that hard anymore because they've fucking won.
And the smart ones are aware that pushing these economics any further left will actually destroy the host that the parasite is eating off of.
So they're like, yeah, we better not do that anymore.
Left-wing economics are spending $4 trillion a year out of a centralized federal bureaucracy.
How much more left-wing could it get?
We've got like, I think, seven or eight of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto enacted in our society.
They've won.
They've won that issue.
But they also understand that they're going after the culture because in a lot of ways, that's kind of more, that's more effective and it's more important.
And it's a if you want to radically transform society, going after the culture is way more effective.
Like if somebody on the right is over here going, you know, I think we should reduce top marginal tax rates and that will actually, you know, lead to more revenue and more economic growth.
And then someone over here on the left goes, there's no such thing as boys and girls.
Who's really radically transforming society more?
Like, what's the point of even talking about this one?
They're literally going after the very basis of things.
And there's no question.
The left has been fighting a cultural fight for quite a while now.
And a lot of people who are maybe libertarians, maybe right-wingers, I'm sure some of you have noticed this.
Like, I've certainly noticed this, that I could say, I think we should, you know, abolish the IRS and end the Fed.
And it doesn't get nearly as much pushback.
It's not nearly as controversial an issue as me just saying, I'm pro-life.
Just going, I don't think we should kill babies and framing it as killing babies gets you way more pushback than any of this other stuff were, than any of this other stuff will.
Now, in truth, actually ending the Fed or ending the IRS would do a lot more in terms of actually radically changing our society.
You know what I mean?
Than just me saying I'm pro-life.
However, that's not where they're having the fight.
The fight's taking place on the cultural front.
So there's something to that, but it's not that they abandon economic issues because they got rich.
They got the economic issues that they wanted in place and got rich off of that.
You know, it's the, it's an important distinction.
All right, let's keep playing from Tucker.
Money at stake.
By revenue, Walmart is the largest company in the world.
The Walton family is the richest family in America.
Collectively, they're worth more than $150 billion.
How'd they get so rich?
Well, by selling foreign goods to domestic consumers, cheap Chinese garbage manufactured offshore in factories that pay slave wages, wages that American manufacturers could never match.
According to one study from 2001 to 2013, America actually lost 400,000 jobs thanks to Walmart's reliance on Chinese imports.
And it shows, here's what many American towns look like today, thanks to Walmart.
Here are some of the gleaming new cities that the communist Chinese government built with the profits.
Let me stop for one second.
Let's pause it.
So, I mean, there's two pieces of insanity here.
Well, I think there might be more than that, but go ahead.
Okay.
Well, I think if we ranked our pieces of insanity, I bet these two are going to be on the top of the list.
First one is the idea that jobs are lost when people are saving money.
I mean, just read economics one lesson.
So people are consuming the same goods for less money.
That means that they have more income to spend elsewhere.
So the fact that we've lost these really probably the worst jobs that you can have in all of society of the manufacturing jobs and then tend to go, well, we just lost those jobs and nothing's been gained here.
You're missing part of the picture.
Now, the next thing that I say is the biggest glaring hole in his analysis is that state-funded cities that are probably empty buildings and usage of steel and a lack of resources in China in what's an entirely fictional economy that will most likely crumble way before hours because they literally invest, they have ghost towns.
Go Google, China ghost towns.
They've built these massive infrastructures that are empty because they have their weird policies of the amount of construction that needs to happen.
So they just build shit for no reason.
Cheap Consumer Goods at Walmart00:15:33
Yeah, you're absolutely right about all of that stuff, but there's just some more that I would add in.
But I get the two biggest ones?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think they're big.
I don't know if they're the two biggest ones.
The one that really stands out to me is that he says, Walmart got rich by selling cheap Chinese crap.
Anybody ever been to a Walmart?
You ever been to one?
They sell a lot of stuff.
Pretty big products that they move are food and clothing.
Yeah.
So you want to just say, oh, it's like this cheap crap.
Who could care?
I have never understood.
And this is what the left has done forever with Walmart.
And it drives me crazy.
I know I've mentioned this many times on the show, but if you claim to care about the people living in these rural towns, okay, what Walmart has done, this is just objective fact, is go into these areas, into these poor rural areas, and cut the prices for what people have to pay on clothes and food.
Do you see no benefit to that?
Okay, maybe there's some costs associated with it too.
I'm fine to have that conversation.
But you're telling me you can't see a benefit in that.
Listen, Walmart did not put these other companies out of business.
This is a fact.
Their customers did.
Their customers chose Walmart over these other businesses.
Now, you can say that's because China was making it for cheaper than we can make it.
Well, yes, that's absolutely true.
And I agree with you.
Go read economics in one lesson.
This is not a negative.
This is not a negative.
We were already doing this with each other.
Okay.
China just came in and out competed for that.
Specialization.
Yes.
This is nothing.
This is actually making us richer.
Now, I'm not saying those areas are fine, but the other thing is what you're saying when you point it out.
This is like pure propaganda.
Absolutely pure propaganda to take a picture of an empty parking lot in rural America and then compare it to the most futuristic looking city in China.
While we're doing this, why don't we go rural for rural?
Let's look at rural America versus rural China.
See who's poorer there.
See who's actually getting...
So this is just insane to go like, Walmart, rich China.
Look, they took all this stuff from us.
And that's why they have all of this stuff.
Look, here's what happened in America that's really had a terrible effect on rural America.
Okay.
So over when, God, I always, I don't have these numbers exact on hand, but I'm really close on these numbers.
Okay.
The day that the financial crash hit in 2008, the Federal Reserve had, I believe, in the like $850 billion on their asset sheet.
Nothing.
Okay.
That's what they had on this.
The day Donald Trump took the presidency, it was over $4 trillion.
This is what we did for the decade after the financial recession.
We flooded the market with liquidity.
They flooded the market.
It was the best time of everyone who owned shit started making tons and tons of money.
And if you were on the outside, you were just paying the expenses of it.
Now, not to say that people got poorer.
Some of them actually did a little bit better, but they didn't see any of the gains or they didn't see the majority of the gains that the people who were, you know what I mean, like in the coastal elites and things like that.
All right.
This has done a lot to fuck.
And when you look at when we really destroyed the savings, we completely disincentivized people from saving.
And that's why, by the way, when you see those studies that are like, oh, you know, it's like Americans, average Americans have like nothing saved.
They have nothing put away for a rainy day or next to nothing.
These things are connected.
And so there's a lot of things that happened that really fucked over rural America.
But the idea that Walmart did it to them.
Walmart went in there and destroyed them with their cheap, competitively priced products that people preferred and therefore went to Walmart instead.
I mean, it's like it's a voluntary choice that these customers made to go to Walmart, okay?
Walmart, it's like if somebody took your girlfriend away from you and like she left you and went to go be with somebody else and you just look at it and you went, well, this guy just destroyed a relationship.
It's like, well, yeah, but I mean, he created one also.
And judging by the fact that this woman voluntarily left you and went to him, probably created a better relationship.
So that's what they did with their customers.
Yeah, no, she's a whore.
But the point is, that's her.
She's the customers.
That's who you're mad at is those hoary Walmart customers.
All right.
You're not mad at Big Dick Walmart.
Walmart just came around with Big Dick in his nice car and was like, what's up?
You townies want to fuck?
All right.
So that's Walmart in a nutshell.
But I just think this is, this is, it's not only, it didn't only veer into the economically illiterate, but actually into straight up propaganda.
If you're going to show pictures of fucking China's super cities or whatever they're building, which as you pointed out before, they have their own problem with misallocating resources and building up bubbles and things like that.
But the idea that you would just show this empty parking lot and then China's super city and go, see, look what they took from us.
Look what Walmart gave to China.
Look, man.
They can't even breathe in those fucking cities.
You literally got to stay indoors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's back to the climate change part.
They're pretty big polluters.
All right, let's play the rest of Tucker.
Don't you wish we had that?
We don't.
At times, Walmart sold goods at a loss just long enough to drive American competitors out of business completely.
Smaller retail and the jobs they provided just vanished.
In many places, Walmart became one of the few remaining employers.
As of today, more than one and a half million Americans at any one time work at Walmart.
And it's not, by and large, an improvement over what we had before.
And it's not getting better.
In 2005, for example, 20% of Walmart employees worked part-time at the company.
Today, the majority work part-time.
Why?
You know why.
If Walmart keeps employees' hours low enough, it can avoid paying them benefits.
People can't really live like that, and Walmart knows it.
But they know the federal government, that is to say, you, taxpayers, will subsidize their low wages with welfare benefits.
In other words, you are working so that the Walton family won't have to pay their employees enough to live.
That's happening right now.
But we're not talking about it because Walmart is now pushing gun control.
So take three steps back and let's think about what's happening here.
The company more responsible than any other company for destroying and degrading rural America, for making our towns uglier and cheaper and poorer, the same people who pushed the appalling lie that brightly colored plastic crap from China is going to make us happy, that company is now lecturing normal Americans, the very Americans they have hurt, about how immoral they are for daring to protect themselves with firearms.
That's what they're saying.
And everyone in Washington, New York, and Los Angeles is applauding them as they do it.
It's not a good sign.
All right.
So Listen, I am sympathetic to Tucker's point that they're kind of, you know, with this gun control stuff, like mocking the people who are their biggest customers.
It certainly rubs me the wrong way.
It rubs me the wrong way when I see all those, you know, anchors like praising Walmart all of a sudden.
But look, let's get real here.
Walmart didn't destroy any areas.
This stuff, I mean, I don't actually have the data in front of me, but I know that it's like Thomas DiLorenzo did a great job of actually going through all the data of all of these companies, all the robber baron companies in the late 1800s who everybody says they're like, they were lowering the prices just enough to get their competitors out of the marketplace and this like predatory pricing thing.
And you actually go through it and you realize they actually just always had lower than market rate prices.
And even though some of them did have some plans of like, oh, we'll get everyone else out of there and then we'll raise our prices up.
Anytime they try to raise the prices up, they're immediately undercut and they have to bring the prices back down.
The truth is anybody who shops at Walmart, anybody at any point knows they're they're always very competitively priced or they're the cheapest game in town by far.
That's the idea of Walmart.
That's always been their business model and always will.
And if they ran, you know, sold at a loss for a certain amount of time to try to gain the upper hand, it's like, yeah, welcome to business, bitch.
That's what everybody does.
What do you think these huge blowout sales are all over the place?
People cut prices to try to draw more people into them and then hope they stick around to pay the regular prices.
It's just like to blame that.
First off, if Walmart was selling products at a loss and they're not making profits, explain to me how that's ripping their customers off.
Those are the people we're talking about that we care about, right?
It's the rural Americans who are shopping at Walmart.
So what?
They were selling them a sale at a loss?
Sounds like a pretty good deal for the consumer, if you ask me.
Now, this other thing that I hate, which actually drives me crazy, is that like you go, so you're doing this whole segment demonizing Walmart.
And then you go, Walmart knows as long as the federal government is paying these benefits to people that they can get away with paying them less.
Well, even if that's true, which I'm not so sure it is, even if that's true, it would make more sense to demonize the government for giving out this welfare to these people.
Basically, what your argument is, and I'm not saying I completely agree with this, but your argument is that without these welfare payments, Walmart would have to pay a higher wage because people wouldn't work for these wages.
Well, then really you should do when Tucker goes, you know, you're working to subsidize these Walmart workers.
It's like, okay, well, Walmart's not forcing you to work to subsidize anybody.
Walmart can't force you to work.
All Walmart can do is give you some of that sweet Chinese crap for a real cheap price.
Okay.
So that's what Walmart's doing.
And if you have a problem with the welfare, then sure, I'm with you.
But let's demonize the government, not Walmart, for doing it.
And the other thing he says in there that really, this just really bothers me is the idea that he says, everybody promised you that brightly colored cheap Chinese crap would make us happier.
It hasn't.
This is such a caricature of an argument that nobody's ever made.
Has anybody actually ever said cheap Chinese goods will make you happy?
That this will lead to a fulfilled life?
I mean, if you were to ask me what I think will bring some type of meaning and deep happiness to somebody's life, I mean, look, just being honest and what the fuck do I know?
I'm just one guy.
I'm in my 30s.
I don't have like, you know, I'm not some elder statesman with all this wisdom to impart, but I would say meaningful relationships.
You know, like for me, it's really been marriage, having a child, but meaningful friendships, a career that means something to you, living with a sense of morality and values, having some purpose in your life, living for things that are bigger than just yourself.
In Rob's case, it would be sandwiches.
But no one's saying, yeah, and that was really and and you know, jumping over hurdles in general, but AIDS is a pretty big hurdle.
Once you clear AIDS, you're like, the rest of the world's my biggest accomplishment strong.
They seem low, I should say.
Yeah, no, I'm with you.
But all this, but seriously, I mean, there's like, obviously, there's more important things in life than cheap consumer goods.
However, that being said, cheap consumer goods do improve the standard of living and they improve people's economic situation.
I mean, how the hell else do you improve the economic situation other than more plentiful goods for a lower price?
And, you know, Tucker, the truth is, right?
Your real beef isn't with Walmart.
Like I said before, Walmart, listen, if Walmart went into a rural area and went around to the other mom and pop shops with, you know, little private armies and said, hey, we're shutting you guys down.
And then started throwing Molotov cocktails through their windows or like shooting people or threatening them unless they got the hell out of town.
Then I think you would have your beef would be with Walmart.
You'd be like, Walmart went around and destroyed the economy of this town.
But Walmart just opened up shop and all those people who you claim to care about chose those cheap, brightly colored Chinese crap, as you call it.
Okay.
So your beef is with those people.
Now, if you want to make a pitch to those people and go, hey, stop buying this cheap Chinese crap.
Everything will work better.
Good luck.
You can try it.
But the truth is that people like cheap consumer goods.
That's what they like.
Okay.
Now, I'm not even saying that's perfect.
I think people have some kind of messed up priorities with some of this stuff.
You know, like I've said before, and I've heard people give me shit for it, but like, you know, when you look at those, those, those, you know, the studies we were talking about before where they go, all these Americans, they, they can't put together $600 for an emergency.
And like they got kids and stuff.
It's like, well, if you have kids and you can't put together $600 for an emergency, I'm just saying, like, how many pairs of sneakers do you have?
How many televisions do you have?
Like, do you have a whole bunch of like unnecessary luxury items in your fucking like home?
Because if you can't, if you're actually living in a situation where you have children and you can't put $600 together, you shouldn't have television.
You shouldn't have an air conditioner.
You shouldn't, you should be doing, like, you should have one pair of sneakers.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think that's crazy.
This is just speaking as a father.
You should have your priorities in order.
And a lot of people don't.
And a lot of people do prioritize material things over more important things, in my opinion, like family, relationships, responsibility.
But let's get real and look at what's causing those problems.
Tucker really cares.
I know he's talked about this a lot on his show, and I sympathize with him.
He really cares about the fact that young people are finding it more and more difficult and unachievable to get married, to buy a house, to do all these things.
Well, what's causing those problems?
Sure as fuck ain't cheap Chinese goods.
It's the state.
Why the hell is the price of housing so expensive?
Why is the price of daycare so expensive?
Why do we even need daycare?
Why do we need two incomes in order to support what one used to?
Why is the price of college so expensive?
Why is the price of medical care so expensive?
This is all because of state intervention.
So to demonize one company who comes in, provides a bunch of employment and cuts costs for really important things for the poorest Americans is so fucking ass backward, man.
You're blaming the company that's done something to help.
I don't know.
This seems crazy to me.
And just really, really misguided.
So there is a problem.
I'm not saying there isn't a problem, but it's not Walmart's fault.
Harvey Weinstein Hotel Stories00:06:38
So you got to look at people a lot more powerful than Walmart.
Okay.
There's my little Contra Carlson for today.
Do love Tucker.
Got to say, love him.
Always, always enjoy watching him.
Meet him?
Hanging out?
I've met him.
Yeah, yeah.
I met him.
I met him a couple times.
He did a he used to, for a little while, it might have only been for a couple weeks stretch, but he was doing his show out of New York.
It was before he had the 8 p.m. hour.
It might have been the 9 p.m. or the 7 p.m. hour.
I can't remember, but it was back when O'Reilly was still on the network and he was shooting down the hall from Red Eye.
So he would hang out a little bit.
We met him.
And then he did an episode of Red Eye that I was on once when I was filling in for Andy Levy doing the half-signed.
He was narcissy off here.
No, he was great.
Really super cool guy.
Chill.
Really, really chill guy.
And then I met him in the Kennedy Green Room once, too.
He was always really, really nice, really super down-to-earth, really friendly, just really cool guy.
Nothing bad to say about Tucker personally.
Always very cool.
And very cool.
And I find this to be like the real measure of people.
Very cool to the staff.
Like very cool to the crew and everybody, which is always, that's like, to me, always the most important measure of how someone, aside from like how you are to your family, like how you treat your wife and kids and stuff like that, but how you treat people who serve you to me as well.
You know, like how you treat a bartender, how you treat the weight staff at like a restaurant.
Like that to me is a real, that's when you really see who people are.
Because it's not how you treat like a co-worker or someone above you in your industry.
That's like, that means nothing.
But how you treat like the 20-year-old girl who's serving you when she's coming over.
When you see people who are real cunty to like the weight staff, that just rubs me off.
I'll give him my number four times.
You know how nice I am to that chip?
I actually was not saying people who sexually harass the weight staff are good people.
That wasn't like, hey, Tuts, you know, all sorts of nice compliments.
I say, by the way, I saw the other day me and my wife watched.
Anyway, I was just saying that Tucker is a very cool guy, and I love his show.
Me and my wife watched the Harvey Weinstein documentary.
Okay.
Who did they have playing Harvey Weinstein?
No, no, no.
It's a documentary.
They had Harvey Weinstein playing Harvey Weinstein.
Oh, okay.
It was awesome.
I mean, you're cooler.
Yes, it was a documentary.
My pet.
But it's like, oh, the documentary who they cast.
Pretty much all the people who were involved.
Dude, I don't even want to get into it that much, but I recommend people watch it.
It's number one.
Listen, Harvey Weinstein.
You almost have to say this like a disclaimer.
He's clearly an unbelievable piece of shit.
Unbelievable piece of shit.
Like really, really scummy fucking dude.
That being said, it's amazing.
The two takeaways that I have, because you go in knowing Harvey Weinstein's a piece of shit.
But the takeaways I had from the documentary.
You didn't just spoil it for people.
No.
It's not like spoiler alert.
He's a bad guy.
Here's the spoiler.
Number one, it's amazing how much they try to make you hate him for being ugly.
Like they keep showing the least flattering pictures of him and like zooming in on his face.
I hear like Lauren's watching it the whole time and she's like, oh my God, he's just so gross.
Right.
And he's like, oh, he's so gross.
And then he's like, and then he tried to have sex with this girl.
And it's like, oh, but he's so gross.
And you're like, at a certain point, you're like, I don't know.
I almost feel bad for it.
It's like, if he was a good looking guy doing all this, the story would probably just be good looking guy is a playboy in Hollywood.
Now, he's being a prick about it, like a real prick about it.
But if he wasn't so gross, he probably wouldn't have to be such a prick.
Anyway, he's horrible.
He's like really nasty to these women.
Then there's like about half the women in the documentary.
You're like, I just don't feel bad for you.
Like your story isn't like some guy jumped out of the bushes with a ski mask and a knife and raped me.
Your story is like, I wanted to be a celebrity.
So I played with Harvey Weinstein's balls for a while.
And you're like, all right, but you could have left, right?
And they're like, yeah, but I was scared to leave.
And you're like, I don't know, man.
Like, dude, there's this one chick of the thing.
And her story is that she goes back to Harvey Weinstein's hotel.
She's like, they're talking about business.
She's like, oh my God, I'm meeting Harvey Weinstein.
This could be my big break.
Like, he produces all these great movies.
And he's like, oh, well, let's go grab a drink in my hotel room.
She's like, all right, sounds a little bit weird.
But, you know, we're talking business.
So I'll go up to his hotel room.
And then Harvey Weinstein goes, I want you to take off your shirt.
And she was like, what?
I have a boyfriend.
He's like, yeah, I have a wife.
Who cares?
Like, this is how Hollywood rolls.
Like, we all do this.
And she was like, I don't know, but okay.
And she takes off her shirt.
And then he gets naked and she gets naked.
And she said she got on her knees and gave him a massage.
Whatever that means exactly.
I don't know.
But she's massaging them.
They're both naked.
But she goes, but I'm not going to fuck you.
And he's like, okay, whatever.
And it's fine.
And she left.
And they left cool.
Like, whatever.
And she's like, I felt kind of gross about doing that.
But, you know, she's like, so anyway, so I reached out to him again a couple months later because he said to keep in touch.
So I reached out to him.
And he was like, why don't you come meet me at my hotel?
And so I went back and met him at his hotel.
And I come in the door and he's naked.
And I just did not expect that to happen.
And then he goes, come in the bathroom with me.
And she's like, so I went in the bathroom with him.
And she goes in the bathroom and he basically just grabs her and like jerks off.
And she's like, I just stayed completely still because I thought maybe if I was still, it would all just go away.
And like, that's the story.
And you're like, wait, what?
So like, I mean, it's one thing if the first time you go up to a guy's hotel room, you didn't expect something sexual to happen.
But you're saying you went up to a guy's hotel room, something sexual happened, then you reached out to him again.
He said, come meet me in my hotel room.
And you went, sure.
And then you're like, oh my God, he's expecting something sexual.
Like, how could you not know?
How, like, can you write your name on a piece of paper?
If you're capable of doing that, can you drive a car?
Like, if you can do any basic thing in life, how would you not know to expect something sexual the next time you go back to this guy?
But she tells this story like she is this victim and you're supposed to like eat this up like, oh my God, you poor angel.
Like you, I just don't understand.
Like you can either respect women as like independent, you know, autonomous individuals who deserve equal rights, or you can think you're supposed to feel bad for that woman.
Dumb Shit and Plant Intelligence00:02:12
But I can't do both of those things.
Like, I don't know.
Anyway, the documentary was, I thought, entertaining enough and worth watching.
I wish Harvey Weinstein's a piece of shit.
It'd be great if he never got caught just like every week.
No, not his dick again.
Fuck Harvey.
Fool me 99 times.
Shame on you.
My favorite Harvey Weinstein story when all those crazy stories were coming out was one time he liked like bringing women into the kitchen and then like the staff would clear out.
Like, all right, Harvey Weinstein's here and he'd jerk off in front of them.
And then one time this chick really wasn't into it.
So he jerked off onto a plant.
Ah, poor plant.
I know.
Leave the plants out of it, Harvey.
But I like that he is.
And we don't really know exactly what plants experience.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
That plant might have just been like, oh, God, I wish I could move faster.
Dude, I read that years ago.
We're coming to the end, so I can say dumb shit now, right?
Yeah, it's dumb shit time.
It's dumb shit time.
Yeah.
Okay.
Years ago, when I was in my Jew studies, my Jew study days, I found this weird book in the back of the base measures.
The house of learning where you learn your Talmud, right?
And there's this book all about like weird facts that they knew in the time of the Talmud that they shouldn't have known.
Like one of them is they actually had like the intervals between moon, like between full moons down to like a quarter millisecond, and they didn't confirm that's like the Hubble telescope.
Like all like this weird information.
It was basically supposed to be like a proof of God book that like there's no way they could have known this information.
And there was a whole chapter in there about how plants, there's like a line in the Talmud about how plants communicate and like that they're actually intelligent.
And there was some weird research that was then, and this already like 15 years ago, I was like, oh man, this is some creepy weird shit.
I really hope plants don't experience consciousness because that makes us, I mean, that's like a different level of like evil that exists in the universe that you can't even just eat plants without like shirt in the vegans' faces.
Yeah, you're fucking murderers too.
Well, in terms of shoving things into the vegan murdering faces, I heard this: even if you want to go all vegan, when like those big farms, when they go and they chop all the wheat, like gerbils and shit get caught in that all the time.
So, like, if you're eating cow, like, you might just be killing one thing a year.
But if you want to go murder-free and you're like, hey, I'm just eating wheat, you're fucking up gerbils left and right.
Fun Facts About Wheat Gerbils00:01:00
That is very interesting.
Yeah, fun facts at the end of the episode.
There you go.
You're segregated.
That's a good, uh, that's a good way.
And we're going to have to, we're going to wrap up on that one.
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Hope to see a lot of you guys at the Soho Forum on Tuesday.
Rob Bernstein will be doing some comedy.
I will be debating the chairman of the Libertarian Party, Nick Sarwak.
So this should be a real fun, a real fun night.
I'm looking forward to it.
And we got a lot of cool stuff coming up on the show afterward.
We're doing like a roundtable.
What is it?
We're going to record a podcast with Michael Heiss and some of the guys from the LP Mises Caucus.
We'll be with some Meekawks and we'll be putting that out as some part of the problem content.
Then we got some cool guests coming in in the next couple of weeks as well.
So a lot of fun stuff happening.
And as always, thank you guys so much for listening.