Dave Smith, Jessica Sager, and Ruben Mehta dissect the RNC as an establishment disaster, mocking Clint Eastwood's confusion, Newt Gingrich's wife, and Ann Romney's domestic focus while condemning the exclusion of Ron Paul delegates. They critique Mitt Romney's condescending "You Built It" speech and Paul Ryan's lies about a GM factory, contrasting this unauthentic ticket with anticipated Democratic authenticity from Obama and Clinton. The discussion highlights media double standards regarding female politicians like Sarah Palin versus Nancy Pelosi and argues that true feminism often requires liberal alignment, ultimately framing the convention as a failure of conservative messaging. [Automatically generated summary]
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MSNBC Guest Promises00:05:51
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to yet another episode of Part of the Problem.
Look at my guests are already laughing, which is a good sign, maybe, or a terrible sign.
But thank you, everybody, for listening.
Welcome to Part of the Problem, a big week coming off the Republican National Convention.
I'm excited to break it all down and talk about what's going on.
I am Dave Smith, the libertarian stand-up comedian.
I'm here with my beautiful co-host, Jessica Sager.
Hello.
Oh, it always comes in so strong at the beginning.
And we're joined once again by one of our regular favorite guests, hilarious stand-up comedian, Ruben Mehta.
Thank you for coming on the show again.
Oh, it's my pleasure, Dave.
Oh, that was very nice.
Very official.
Man, you sound white.
You could really fool some people.
And that's what's important in the podcast world.
Well...
Being white?
Being able to pass for white.
Not being white.
You've been watching a lot of the RNC convention, haven't you?
Yeah, I really have, man.
They have brainwashed me.
It was, did you guys enjoy it?
What I saw of it was funny.
It was fun.
It is.
Isn't it quite a ridiculous show?
Well, it's...
I thought it was really, you know, for me, because the Ron Paul versus the Establishment stuff I got really into.
We'll break that down in a little bit.
But overall, I thought for the Republican establishment, not great.
Not a great showing.
A real opportunity to do something, and they did not do too good.
You know, Mitt Romney gave a pretty decent speech.
Paul Ryan's speech went over well, but then, you know, a lot of people said there were some lies in it.
Including Fox News.
It's getting a lot of backlash from a lot of different people.
And, you know, Clint Eastwood had a stroke or something on stage, which was a little bit weird.
I mean, I'm not even like, I don't feel like I'm really being a dick when I say this is...
Hold on.
This is a little piece from Clint Eastwood's speech.
So, Mr. President, how do you, how do you handle how do you handle promises that you made when you were running for election?
And how do you handle it?
How do you handle it?
I mean, what do you say to people?
Do you just, you know, I know people were wondering.
You don't.
You don't have that.
Okay.
Well, I know even some people in your own party were very disappointed when you didn't close Gitmo.
And I thought, well, I think closing Gitmo, why close that?
We spent so much money on it.
But it's great.
I thought maybe it's an excuse.
What do you mean, shut up?
I mean, dude.
He legitimately thinks the guy's sitting in the chair.
There's no two bones about it.
He thinks Obama's downtown New York City.
And you'd think an actor would not stutter so much.
And then he goes trying terror.
Like, he's literally...
I mean, there's not even...
It's literally like listening to your grandfather, like, who's already gone senile talking about politics.
It's so weird.
But no one in the family is willing to admit he's gone.
Yeah, he goes, well, how do you answer, you know, the promises you've made about closing?
A lot of people thought you'd close Gitmo.
Now, like, the thing that I kind of like is about, by the way, he's like a libertarian.
I kind of like Clint Eastwood's politics.
He said a couple cool things.
He said something about bringing the troops home from Afghanistan in the middle of that.
He said things that were almost like weird.
But I mean, it was just so incoherent.
I couldn't believe they let him go on and just do that.
And no script.
He didn't show them anything.
I do like in his argument, though, there, that his reason for closing Gitmo being a bad idea is, well, we spent a lot of money there.
Like, that's not a reason to keep something horrible open.
I think the whole thing was kind of like a mixture of dementia and Lars and the real girl.
It was like, it was just really weird to watch.
I mean, yeah, it's pretty, pretty.
I couldn't believe that when they were like a surprise speaker.
I mean, anyway, of course, I'll say, you know, Ron Paul can't speak, but Clint Eastwood can go just fucking wing it.
Well, a lot of less legitimate people than Ron Paul got to speak.
Oh, yeah.
Newt Gingrich's wife spoke for reasons no one can explain.
Oh, my God.
His third wife who, you know, wasn't even around when he was relevant.
Dude, that might have been even worse than Clint Eastwood.
Is Newt Gingrich and his fucking, yeah, his just current wife.
Not even the chick who was banging Newt Gingrich when he was the Speaker of the House.
Just some chick who's rubbing like failed presidential candidate Newt Gingrich's balls.
This chick gets to get up there in prime time.
In fucking prime time.
And that's the thing.
Like, you can squirm, but that is her qualification for being up there.
I just didn't need the mental picture.
Well, you know, it's going to get worse over the course of the show.
It is a little bit weird.
I mean, yeah, that's like what.
I think it was just, we need a woman.
And Newt Gingrich probably threw her at them and said, here's a woman.
Well, they have to say whatever I tell her to say.
Well, they had some other, you know, speaking of women, Ann Romney spoke.
Right.
And that's been getting some heat.
I don't know if that's completely fair or not.
But, you know, so she talked about, did you guys see her speech?
She talked about her relationship with Mitt.
She talked about how she was sick and had cancer and has MS or whatever now.
And I don't know.
Ann Romney Qualifications00:15:42
There's been a lot of...
I think that's just a shot at Gingrich.
That not everyone leaves their wives while they're sick.
Well, this is a...
Hold on, I wanted to play.
This was on MSNBC a couple hours ago.
Well, it is right there in writing.
And there were optics as well as language, the I Love You Women language, that was trying, obviously, to make unsettle inroads, telling American women how much we love them.
But if you listen to a lot of the other language, I think you're going to see, you're going to hear language that matches that, which is the way that a lot of the speakers were talking about women.
Take Ann Romney's I Love Women speech.
Take the soundbite that you showed earlier.
We are the mothers, the sisters, the daughters, the grandmothers, the nieces.
Did you notice that we're not bankers?
We don't have jobs.
We women, who Ann Romney loves, exist only defined by our domestic relationships within a family.
This was the emphasis, her vision of motherhood, the very Dude, this is why, I mean, I really wish Patrice O'Neal was still with us.
Because this is just a fucking angry chick who isn't happy in her own fucking relationship.
It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Just because Ann Romney...
This is what I hate about liberal feminist shit.
When they destroy...
Like, why do you have to just...
Look, fine.
You can do whatever you do.
Why do you have to destroy Ann Romney?
Because she's talking about being a mother and a father.
And a husband.
That's her.
That's her life.
Right.
That's what she did.
She's also on record.
She's on record as saying women who do the same job should not be paid as much as men.
Yeah.
When did she say that?
See, she said, I don't know, because that women equal pay thing is kind of a tricky conversation sometimes.
I'm not convinced there's much unequal pay between men and women in this country, to be honest.
And you can get into that.
When you look at those numbers, when they just say, like, oh, women get paid 77 cents on the dollar to men, it's just not taking into account tons and tons of things.
They put that out there, like, that's because of discrimination, is why it's 77 cents.
The truth is that there's lots of other factors that are the reason for that.
Women are much more likely to take time out of working for having kids.
And especially women who have kids tend to be willing to sacrifice salary for more convenience or with hours or more like...
And men tend to do the opposite when they have kids.
They'll sacrifice the convenience for more money.
It's just like a trend.
Also, men tend to do a lot of jobs like roofing and shit like that.
That's pay as well because it's fucking really grueling work.
And it's like, I don't know.
I don't know if it's necessarily discrimination that that pays well.
I'm just saying there's a lot of different factors in that.
And I'm just saying, look, if, and there are some studies on this, but women with like equal college experience, equal work experience primarily do get paid very, very close.
It's not 77 cents to the dollar.
It comes out to be like 97 cents to the dollar.
So it's way, way closer.
And there's really not that big of a gap.
But look, a woman who has a kid, if she takes 10 years off and then goes back in the workforce, is probably going to make less than a million dollars.
Absolutely.
And that just kind of makes sense, right?
Jessica?
I agree.
Okay.
That's all I need.
He needed to go on rapidly.
We're supposed to have.
Well, what do you like?
Do you really?
I don't know.
The whole women's issues stuff, right, in the election, like that, which has been so and so, like, the war on women and stuff.
I don't think it's a war on women.
I just think it's pandering to their demographic, which is all, you know, Jesus freaks.
That's it.
I don't think a lot of these people legitimately hate women.
I just think they're pandering to people who just think more religiously than logically.
Yeah, I kind of agree with you on that, but I also don't.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't think it's fair to say, oh, you know, Obama wants free birth control.
So that means if I oppose free birth control, now I'm fighting some war on women or something.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I don't think it's a war on women.
I just think it's, you know, there's a lot of other factors at play, and they just happen to revolve around us, but I don't think it...
I don't think anyone who votes against free birth control or something hates women.
I just think they don't feel like paying for it.
Fair enough.
I just don't like the idea of jumping on Mrs. Romney for coming out and talking about how she loves being a housewife.
Well, yeah, because I don't know.
And they're like, oh, well, she's defining all these people by their domestic role in the family.
It's like, what's so wrong about having a happy family?
I don't know.
So what?
You go do what you want to do.
She's not like that.
I think they're trying to tack it on to the idea that they're just out of touch.
That, yes, it's great.
In her case, the family could afford it.
She didn't have to go out and work.
Because.
Sure.
You know, Mitt had a lot of rich friends.
Yeah, well, his dad had a lot of rich friends.
Well, that's true.
Look, I mean, there's definitely...
It's good for her, but...
Well, the other thing, too, I think, you know, she has to talk about stuff that she knows.
That's what she knows.
She's a housewife.
Right.
So I think they're attacking the wrong person for it.
You know what I mean?
If Mitt Romney is out of touch, attack Mitt Romney.
Don't like it.
But that's the danger.
If you want to parade her there as the thing that humanizes Mitt Romney, then she has to be open to criticism.
You can't say don't attack her wife if he's the one saying, all right, go ahead and speak for my campaign.
Yeah, no, once you start speaking, you can criticize her.
It's just, I don't know.
I don't think that's necessarily a fair criticism.
But anyway, right, so we've been a little all over the place in this coverage, but the Clint Eastwood and Newt Gingrich were disasters.
I thought Ann Romney was actually okay.
You know, the real interesting stuff, before any of the big speeches happened, there was the whole, you know, Ron Paul people made their scene.
This is what I've been talking about for a while.
I've been excited.
Oh, this is, look, this is it.
For everyone out there who, I don't know, whatever.
Ron Paul's retired now.
So this is really the end of the Ron Paul movement.
And now we'll just see whatever, you know, us libertarians, whoever we jump to next, which, you know, we'll talk about a little bit also.
But so Ron, so, you know, the Ron Paul people really, really hardcore got snubbed.
And at the end of Ron Paul's career here, he did make a little bit of a deal with the establishment.
It got us into the convention.
This is very different, obviously, the 2008 convention.
They were not having us in there.
There was no accepting Ron Paul.
This would have been crazy.
The idea of like a tribute video to Ron Paul and Rand speaking at the convention is nuts compared to where we were a few years ago.
So we get in there, but they really, I mean, they were shitty.
They didn't, I don't know if you guys saw any of this, but they wouldn't seat like almost half the delegates that Ron Paul got.
Then they wouldn't announce them.
They wouldn't announce the delegates.
Even Wolf Blitzer, who's always, you know, had a, is no fan of Ron Paul.
But he said when he was interviewing Rand, he was like, I couldn't believe that they were that disrespectful.
That these places would literally be like, you know, they'd be like Minnesota, and they'd be like, Minnesota cast 33 delegates to Ron Paul.
And everyone's like going nuts.
Like, yeah, they go, and five delegates to Mitt Romney.
And the lady at the podium goes, five delegates for Mitt Romney.
And slams the thing down.
They wouldn't read Ron Paul's delegates.
They ended up like a lot of them stormed out.
A lot of different states left.
And they tried to change a bunch of the rules at the last minute.
There was clear cheating.
And it's just interesting.
I don't know.
To me, it made them look bad.
Do you think part of it was his resistance to just sort of pulling out and saying, I'm behind Mitt Romney?
Do you think that?
Yeah, well, he said, and they got very angry at him for saying this, but he said that the deal that they offered him was a speaking role, a prime time speaking role under two conditions, which was a full endorsement of Mitt Romney, and they get to vet his speech.
Right.
And he said, no way.
And he went and had his own convention a couple blocks away, which was awesome.
It must have been great for him watching Clint Eastwood.
You guys wanted to read my speech, and then you let this happen.
Yeah, really.
Well, yeah, because he was going to say a lot more dangerous shit to the establishment.
But he went, you know, and Chris Chris, no one had to ask the people at the Ron Paul convention to be more excited, like Chris Christie did.
I don't know if you guys saw that, but after Chris Christie's speech, he said the people at the convention floor weren't loud enough, which is usually a sign of like a comic saying the audience isn't laughing enough.
That's a sign that you didn't do so good.
Right.
And that's why in general, I think it was just like a bad, it was bad for the establishment, dude.
They did nothing.
They ensured.
Look, clearly they wanted to bring the Ron Paul people in a little bit.
They wanted to see if they could get him to vote.
That's why they did a tribute to Ron Paul.
They had Rand Paul speak.
They wanted to bring us in.
And then this whole thing went down.
I think they lost a lot of the Ron Paul supporters.
Then, you know, these speeches is that Chris Christie's speech was alright.
It was whatever.
Like I said, he didn't seem too happy after it.
And then the last night, look, again, the Paul Ryan speech is getting a lot of backlash.
Like we said, Mitt Romney's speech was okay.
I mean, it was better than okay.
Mitt Romney gave a good speech.
I thought for Mitt Romney, that was one of the better times I've seen him speak.
He looked comfortable.
Yeah, that might have been the best speech Mitt Romney has ever given.
And it was good.
I did think overall it was good.
I mean, he said a few things that scared the shit out of me.
At the end, the thing he said about getting serious on Iran is just like, I mean, what are you like, what?
So Obama's been light on Iran.
You want to go more serious on Iran?
What could we possibly do?
How can you possibly line up to more, right?
It's like we're dropping...
There's drones in Iran.
We're fucking killing their scientists.
Like the harshest sanctions we've ever had on them under Obama.
But anyway, so I want to go through a little bit some of the lies that are the GOP is being accused of things that are being called lies about the GOP, the convention, and go through these and see which ones hold up.
Alright, so the whole you built it thing.
That's the first, that's the biggest thing that everyone's...
I thought it was pretty dumb to make you built it the center of the convention.
And by the way, the arena they had the convention in was government-built.
Yeah, I know.
But I don't know if that's as like...
It's just an interesting thing.
You slap we built it all over.
Well, look, there's still.
I don't know if they're talking about that building necessarily.
I mean, look, there are governments do build buildings.
Oh, I know.
I also think it's more of a...
To me, the fact that you can say government built a stadium just right in itself.
How fucking ridiculous is that?
Who the fuck thinks that's the role of government to build stadiums?
So I don't even know what the further point is.
I know I've heard this on the news all the time.
They're like, oh, these people who don't think government should build things are doing this in a building that the government built.
Like, okay, fine.
Can we just take a step back for a second and go, who the fuck thinks governments should be in the business of building stadiums?
No, they're huge money losers.
Why would that ever be like the role of government?
It's like, oh, have we figured everything else out?
No, I don't know.
Whatever.
It's just like, to me, the same thing when they have all these government programs of the arts or something.
And you're like, why is government in the violin business?
Why?
Does this make any sense, really?
But anyway, alright, so this is the, here's the big kind of controversy about this.
The actual line, you built it, and I will give Obama the benefit of the doubt on this.
I don't think he was saying you didn't build it referring to your business, right?
Like he was saying you didn't build it referring to the roads.
Well, I think he was also saying no one did it on their own.
Well, just for anyone who hasn't heard, let's.
No, there are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me.
Because they want to give something back.
They know they didn't.
If you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own.
You didn't get there on your own.
I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.
There are a lot of smart people out there.
It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.
Let me tell you something.
There are a whole bunch of hard-working people out there.
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.
Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we had that allowed you to thrive.
Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
If you got a business, you didn't build that.
So that's, you know, that's the line right there where he says, but he says that roads and bridges, if you had a business, you didn't build that.
But he's talking about the roads and bridges, I think.
At least I'll certainly give him the benefit of the doubt on that.
But I mean, that, to me, I think to any libertarian, that is fucking infuriating.
I mean, that speech.
So I'm fine for them to pounce all over that speech, but to jump on the you built it line.
It's like, why even use what you should the line that I would jump on is the thing where he goes, you think you're so smart or you're working so hard?
There's a lot of smart people who are working hard.
Like, that is where I would like to.
It's like, really?
Go fuck yourself.
That is a condescending argument.
Fuck yourself.
There's a lot of smart people working hard.
You're right.
But Bill Gates was a more badass motherfucker than any of those other smart people.
He was working harder and smarter than any of them.
There's a lot of people.
So my Stefan Molyneux, who's a great, he's got like great internet videos.
I watch all his stuff.
He said the great thing.
He goes, yeah, he goes, yeah, there are a lot of people working hard.
Go to a karaoke night.
There's a lot of people working hard.
A lot of people work hard and they suck.
You know what?
Then there's some people who have talent and they go out and do.
But why would the president of the United States just ever to have this tone?
Look, now the point he's making, first off, no one's arguing.
This is what liberals do with this art.
No one's arguing ever against what he's saying.
He's not even really making the argument.
The argument is that you owe government money and taxes.
He starts off by saying in the clip that we just played that it's so infuriating to me that he goes, you know, a lot of wealthy people agree with me and they're frustrated because they want to give back.
As if the government's the only way that they could do this.
Well, also.
The government is the only way.
Like if these people, they have this money and they're like, ah, I wish I could do something productive because I'm just sitting here sucking off of society.
If only the government would raise taxes on me.
Well, not just send a bigger check.
Yeah, they could send it to me.
Well, first of all, they could just send a bigger check to the government.
Or they could do something much, much more effective, which instead of saying, go actually help people.
Yeah, just go help people.
Like, that would be way, way better than sending it to the government, paying a bunch of bureaucrats' salaries to get a tiny percentage of that money to come back to the people.
It'd be way, way better.
So it's like, oh, these people.
And then he starts going into this thing where it's like, oh, no one got there on their own.
As if that is the free market position.
As if the free market position is that, yes, we all exist in isolation tubes and no one ever interacts with anyone else.
Free Market Lies00:13:18
You are never helped by a teacher.
You are 100% your own individualistic.
So you're standing up already against a straw man.
It's this complete bullshit.
This is like the communistic argument.
I mean, it's complete bullshit.
Like, no one's saying that at all.
Of course, a teacher taught Einstein.
But does that mean Einstein doesn't own his theory?
You know what I mean?
Like, of course, a teacher, like, at some point, taught, you know, say, Bill Gates or Steve Jobs.
But does a teacher own part of Apple now because of that?
I mean, well, that teacher actually, Steve Jobs paid.
His parents paid that teacher.
It was an exchange of services.
The teacher got paid to do the teaching.
And whether it was, you know, voluntary in a private school or they were forced to pay for it by the government, they got paid to do that.
So when you teach, you're not just teaching for your salary and for the love of it.
Now you're investing with expectation of you're owed back from someone by force.
And this isn't even a moral question.
No one's even arguing that, yeah, you probably should give back if you succeed a lot.
It's just an argument of whether the government should come and by force steal it from you.
So he never even gets into the argument, and it's just why you would want the president to take this tone in the time of when we need jobs to be talking to the people who like run businesses and go, oh, really?
You think you think you built this on your?
I mean, to me, it's just infuriating.
That being said, I think the you built it line is a little misleading.
Yeah.
Well, I think that was like the little easy part they could grab onto.
Yeah.
Yeah, everybody.
It's a catchy little thing.
You built it.
Yeah.
It really is a goddamn shame, but that's what they all like to do is just dumb everything down.
Because there's a good argument there.
Maybe I just didn't make it in the best way possible just now, but there's a good argument there, and I wish they would actually make it.
But, you know, of course, they don't actually stay in front of this stuff.
Then, all right, the other getting into it.
Paul Ryan's getting like a lot of heat for lies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which, of course, I'm sorry.
Oh, no.
He even got heat from Fox News.
That's like, that's big.
That's big.
Fox News challenging the Republicans is pretty.
That means you're really, really fucking up.
Yeah.
Well, Paul Ryan, of course, as I've said on the show many times.
I mean, everything.
Of course, there's going to be lies in his speech because Paul Ryan is a lie.
He literally, his whole thing, his whole character is a lie.
It's like a character, you know?
We know a character is from comedy.
Like, he's a character.
He's not really this.
You know, he's a free market guy, but he's a free market guy who voted for bailouts and stimulus and who's not at all, doesn't at all have a free market background.
He voted for lots of the prescription drug plan under Bush.
He's not actually a free market guy, so of course there's going to be a bunch of lies when he gives his dumb speech.
But anyway, so here's, let's go through some of them.
So the GM factory.
This is the big thing everyone's talking about.
He said, I mean, I don't know.
It's so just again, I don't understand why, like, using the you built it, why would he use this factory?
Why would this be the example?
It's really, it's retarded.
I get.
I mean, the lack of fact-checking that goes in.
Because when did it close?
Like, close it.
June 2008.
No, it closed.
In 2008.
So before the election.
No, Hold on.
It did close in 08.
It closed in June 2008.
Yeah, okay.
Okay, fine.
Well, no, I think they announced that they were closing in June 2008.
I think it actually went out under his.
Regardless of what it is, it was done by Bush.
It was like done.
You're sure it was out by June 2008?
I'm 90% sure it was completely closed by 2008.
Paul Ryan actually issued a statement at the time, like pretty much saying, oh, I'm really bummed that this is closing.
So it's not like he didn't know.
Maybe he forgot.
Paul Ryan supported the bailouts.
It's ridiculous to bring this example up.
Now, Obama did say this place would be in business for 100 years and they ended up closing.
It's not a terrible example of just, oh, Obama doesn't really get the economy.
But that being said, I don't know.
This isn't the example.
Why not talk about Solyndra?
Why not talk about a company he really fucked up on?
Why bring this up that's going to inflame all these people?
I don't know.
I think it's because GM is an easier example.
The average person knows what GM is.
The average person still doesn't know about Solyndra.
Yeah.
They might have heard it in passing, but everyone knows what a GM plant does.
They build cars.
And that's very simple to understand.
Yeah, no, you're right.
It is.
You're right.
They do.
There is more knowledge about that, but why not use an example that's not going to be, you know, that's going to be real.
I don't know.
I think their attitude is whatever we say will be taken by the majority of people as fact.
Yeah, I mean, you might be right about that.
I mean, that seems to be the Democrats' attitude, too.
Well, I think in both cases, because some of the mistakes these guys make, you wonder how could they do that without checking.
Don't they pay people to do that, too?
There are.
It is awfully surprising, I will say.
It's very, very weird because, yeah, like you said, why would this be the example?
There's so many different examples.
I mean, dude, and there's just so much stuff you could get into.
Of course, like I said, this guy, he's dirty, too, so you can't, you know, I don't think they care about the fact.
They just want to get the message out presented as fact on the example.
And this wasn't in his speech.
I mentioned this earlier with you.
He claimed he had run a marathon in like two hours, 50 minutes.
Today he confirmed it was more like four hours.
That's an enormous difference.
And someone who runs marathons would know their time approximately.
Yeah.
You're not going to be off by an hour and 10 minutes.
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
Maybe he ran more than one and got them mixed up.
Maybe.
Right, but he's never done one in under three hours.
Oh, yeah.
And I would imagine this.
I don't believe it or not.
I don't run marathons, but I would assume three hours is a big deal and you would realize.
Yeah.
No, that's really not good to get it wrong by that much.
And that's something from your personal life.
No, but that's what.
I mean, this guy, he's just a total fraud, this guy.
That's his whole thing.
He's not at all what he claims to be, which is his free market.
But then, of course, you know, the Democrats make him this guy by being the draconian cuts in his.
Well, he wants to present himself as that guy, and the Democrats are happy to present him as that guy.
Right.
Yeah, but it's a weird, like, coalition of people presenting him in a way that they're not.
Right.
There's the counter to that is like the liberals and conservatives both like to present Obama as much more dovish than he is, which is very strange.
You know, like the Republicans like to present him as like weak on terror.
Right.
He's been like the most warmongering president ever.
Yeah.
And they like to, you know, the Democrats like to be like, oh, well, you don't want to go back to Bush with those endless wars.
Right.
So it's like no one recognizes that this is like, whoa, back to Bush.
I don't understand how the Democrats quite get away with that.
You know, you're going to go back to Bush, these tax cuts and endless wars.
You kept all this stuff going.
None of it stops.
How do you not stop any of this stuff and still get away from it?
Obama railed against all these things.
Then he got into office and he's like, actually, this stuff looks pretty good.
I mean, yeah, he just kept telling me of it.
Yeah, I mean, he accelerated all of it.
Yeah.
Talk about it every week here.
Well, I'll say this.
I talked about last time I said about Rand Paul, his speech, and for the future of the Ron Paul movement, which maybe that's what we'll talk about a little bit now.
Okay, what I think the future of the Ron Paul, what the Ron Paul people should do, because that's over now, right?
Ron Paul's retired.
That's it to people.
Who was it on Twitter who said this was Ron Paul?
By the way, someone said this was a Ron Paul propaganda show on Twitter.
That, I don't know why it warmed my heart to hear us called propaganda.
There was something about that.
I think it makes us relevant.
Yeah, that's some official propaganda.
That's something like a government or a corporation makes.
Us?
We're making propaganda.
And by the way, if we're making propaganda, we're making propaganda for the people who literally get thrown out of the convention.
So it's not as if we're, you know, maybe they need a little propaganda, these people.
But I said for the future, look, my big thing for the future was I thought ever since Rand endorsed Mitt, I said I'm probably going to have a tough time ever supporting Rand Paul again.
I said this speech is kind of going to be it for me to see if I can, you know, if he's going to give us anything.
And I kind of laid out last time what I thought he needed to say.
He didn't talk about any of it.
He did throw a couple Things to he threw out a couple things for the Ron Paul people.
No one dared tell a man not get a lump somewhere between chin and dream.
Brits must pay their fair.
Punish the secretary who owns gross domestic people.
I keep thinking I'm paying just one term.
I keep thinking about it.
Republicans and Democrats alike, though, must slay their sacred cows.
Republicans must acknowledge that not every dollar spent on the military is necessary or well spent.
These are just the Ron Paul people clapping.
Do you imagine?
No other Republicans clap for that type of stuff.
Now that right there, that is pretty.
That's something to hear at the Republican Convention.
I mean, that's not something that you usually hear.
That's what he throws.
Democrats, Democrats must admit that domestic welfare and entitlements must be reformed.
Everybody likes that.
Everybody likes that, man.
Our goblin rights.
This is.
Or relinquish our rights as.
All right.
God damn it.
I messed up that part of the quote.
Thank you.
Be reformed.
Sorry about that, guys.
Republicans and Democrats.
To thrive, we must believe in ourselves again, and we must never, never trade our liberty for any fleeting promise of security.
So that's like more or less what he did for the Liberty Movement.
He said, hey, every single penny spent on military isn't sacred.
And also a nice, vague quote that we all, like, everybody in the Liberty Movement knows what he's saying when he goes, never trade any liberty for security.
Like, that's his coming out against the whole TSA Patriot Act, all that shit.
But it's so veiled.
And he didn't, you know, it's like, no, you got to.
I needed to hear, no, we need to repeal the Patriot Act.
I needed to hear, like, actually, nothing about bringing troops home immediately, nothing about auditing the Federal Reserve.
Nothing about, I mean, just nothing for me.
So to me, Rand Paul is not the future.
He's not the guy.
That's not like where the movement should go.
I just don't think it makes any sense.
And then, of course, he ends the speech by saying what you have to say to be there, which is that Mitt Romney, I even fully endorse Mitt Romney, and he's the guy.
So once you fully endorse Mitt Romney, the guy who's running on, you know, the guy who literally authored Obamacare is running on bombing more and more countries.
You know, to me, he's not like the guy anymore.
And excuse me.
Got some editing to do this one.
Oh.
But so to me, I think Gary Johnson is the way to go.
I think that's who I'm voting for.
Go vote for Gary Johnson.
Ron Paul's not running.
Third party.
You know, there's no other option.
But I definitely don't think.
I think don't vote for Mitt Romney.
Dear fucking God.
If you're a Ron Paul supporter, do not vote for Mitt Romney.
You're out of your fucking mind.
Obviously, can't vote for Obama.
So I think Gary Johnson is the way to go.
And that's, I think that would make an interesting statement if he could do decently.
So anyway, that's my take for the future of the Ron Paul movement.
Go Gary Johnson.
Fuck Rand Paul.
Anyway, so the end result of the Republican convention was a little bit of a bump.
The latest poll has Mitt Romney up 47% to 44%.
Ron Paul Future00:14:18
So that's where we are now.
However, in a week...
Yeah, the DNC is going to go up, but there's going to be another bump.
Oh, yeah.
And that bump, let me tell you something, is going to be the bump that puts Obama ahead probably for the rest of the convention.
I mean, this is like this convention was like, meh.
And now we go to the Democrats convention where they're bringing out Bill motherfucking Clinton.
That's going to be the difference.
And the main thing is where we're complimenting Mitt by being like, well, it wasn't a bad speech.
It was his best.
Obama's basically going to have a microphone in front of him for however many minutes.
And is there any question of whether he'll deliver a great speech?
Dude, I mean, when you talk about just Obama and Bill Clinton both speaking that night, I mean, as just the two best speakers of my lifetime politics.
Bill Clinton is like my favorite human being.
I don't know.
You can't see this on the air, but I'm wearing a locket with his face on it.
I wear this all the time.
Oh my gosh, you really.
I really am.
She has a Bill Clinton.
I wear this locket.
You are a weirdo.
That is.
I have never.
I never love Bill Clinton.
I have never seen it.
I just do.
I just like him.
He's great.
Holy shit.
She gets shit done.
You know?
He rescued those funhouse face mirrored Asian chicks from North Korea.
Bill gets shit done.
He's a cool guy.
He did get those people.
Hold on.
Land of Lincoln.
Let me express my deepest gratitude for the privilege of addressing this convention.
Tonight is a particular honor for me because, let's face it, my presence on this stage.
Is this SA-04?
My father was a foreign student, born and raised in a small village in Kenya.
Just like herding goats, went to school in a tin roof shack.
His father, my grandfather, was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.
But my grandfather had larger dreams for his son.
Through hard work and perseverance, my father got a scholarship to study in a magical place, America, that shone as a beast.
I mean, it's literally already better than everything that we've done.
God damn it, I want to fuck this guy and then vote for him.
My father met my mother.
She in a generous America for the man to lead us who embodies the best this country has to offer.
And that politics of hope.
John Kerry calls on us to hope.
John Edwards calls on us to hope.
I'm not talking about blind optimism here.
The almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don't think about it.
Or healthcare crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about something more substantial.
It's the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs.
The hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores.
The hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta.
The hope of a mill worker's son who dares to defy the odds.
The hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him to do a little goosebump.
There is no one who has less respect for this president than me.
And I'm literally getting goosebumps to be over here listening to this dude.
I mean, he's an unbelievable speaker.
Unbelievable speaker.
In five years, Jessica's going to wear a locket of him.
He's going to have to have one of those heart ones that opens up in two pictures.
So he's going to come in and fuck it.
Now, look, I mean, I don't know if his speech is going to be as good as that.
No, probably not, but it's going to be great.
But he's going to come blow the roof off.
Especially when you hold it up to everything that was seen in the past week.
And the truth is, like, again, Mitt Romney doesn't.
I do think on some level, it's very weird for me to almost like try to.
I think from being so, you know, lost in this kind of Ron Paul movement over the last few years, it's hard to have a regular perspective for me.
But I do think there's something very just like unauthentic about the Romney Ryan ticket that people can see through.
I think Obama is seen as the guy who cares much more.
And ultimately, that's what's going to just happen.
You can see the Republicans don't really like Romney.
He's just the guy who's there right now.
When Condoleezza Rice gave her speech, most of them were probably thinking, what have we done?
How did we not push for this?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think a lot of it goes back to the primaries, too, because there was a lot of mudslinging just in the Republican primaries.
And I think a lot of people remembered a lot of stuff that they heard.
They may not be paying as much attention to it now.
It's probably all the way in the back of their minds, but I think they can kind of tell.
You know, this is, like you said, he's just the guy that's there.
You know, he's the least shitty person.
At the beginning of his speech, apparently, they had to fake how loud it was.
They tried to, I didn't actually see it, but they tried to make it seem as though the crowd was roaring so loudly it was drowning him out.
And people at the convention were tweeting, it's not really that loud in here.
It was like a carefully orchestrated ploy.
It's like having a left track almost.
Yeah, that's not a good sign.
It's not a good sign.
See, I just don't.
I mean, I think it's going to be interesting because I think it's going to be an election where you see the vice president, the vice presidential candidate, is going to be pushed much harder than in the past.
It's going to be more like seen as an even ticket.
Yeah, I think that's true.
And I think, I mean, certainly the Republicans have to like that matchup a little bit more because Biden's, you know.
Biden's a little goofy.
It's a little goofy, man.
That guy's a real dummy.
Yeah.
But that is also the thing, like, there is, we've talked about this before on the show, but there's a much more of a cover.
If you're dumb and a Democrat, you get a lot more cover.
Oh, absolutely.
And if you're a dumb Republican.
It's seen more as charming.
Yeah, man.
I mean, dumb, like, he'd be Dan Quayle if he was a Republican.
My favorite real dummy.
The best Biden moment of the week was he was at a Greek diner talking to people, and I think he said something along the lines of, you can just call me Bidenopoulos.
I mean, dude.
Could you imagine if a Republican, like that kind of pandering?
Yeah, I think, like, I don't know.
I think Biden, because the media tends to skew a little bit liberal at least.
I think it's also Obama here.
Just a tiny bit of a lot of people.
I don't think Obama is just so prominent.
Well, that too, but I think they just see Biden as kind of just more bumbling than dumb.
Like, that's how he's presented.
Yeah, exactly.
He's like, he's a fun little character.
Right, but that's how he's presented.
Yeah.
But it's because, I mean, look, him saying, what would he say?
He said, thank you, South Carolina, or whatever, when he was in, he was, whatever.
He said, thank you in the wrong state.
You know, that could have been his potato moment.
Oh, absolutely.
But we just let that one go.
Well, no, it was addressed, but sort of as a haha, Joe.
Yeah, but it's not a problem.
Well, the thing is, too, I think, and this happens to a lot of people, like, even musicians, like when you're traveling a lot, sometimes you do forget where you are.
So I think they were a little forgiving.
But that's the thing.
I understand that viewpoint where it's an honest mistake.
He's probably been in three states in the last two days.
But if Paul Ryan did that, yeah, so is misspelling potato, though.
Yeah.
Out loud.
That's an honest mistake, also.
And it's, you know, and he also, I think, got it right eventually.
But look, I mean, whatever.
Like, air misspelling something is also just, it doesn't show that you're a dummy.
Dan Quill was a dummy, and Joe Biden is a dummy.
But that is, you know, they're comparable things.
But my point is, you know, here, let's see if I just want because, you know, how much shit Sarah Palini and all the dumb conservatives got.
Well, Biden might be dumb.
He's not Palin.
I don't think we can vote for that.
That's a different level.
To stop that.
President asked for action swift and bold.
And that is what we are doing.
But Alfred Public.
Hold on.
No, I'm not saying Biden's as dumb as Palin.
Palin is her fault.
No, I'm trying to pull up a nice dumb Nancy Pelosi quote.
Oh, yeah, she's a dummy too.
As hold on.
Here.
But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it away from the fog of it.
That's a nice question.
What was that in reference to?
Yeah, what was it?
Okay.
But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.
Yeah, like she read it.
But what an argument to pass a law.
We have to pass a bill so you can find out what's in it.
I mean, it's a short shot, like you haven't read it.
But I mean, most of the Democrats who voted for it didn't read it either.
No.
No one reads the bill.
Yeah, yeah.
No, she voted for it.
I think no one was writing.
Yeah, yeah, no, look, no one.
Of course, who.
Yeah, they vote on it in like 20 minutes.
It's like a 3,000-page bill.
No, I think Nancy Pelosi gets a pass on two levels because not only is she a Democrat, but she's also a woman.
Yeah, no, but Sarah Palin being a woman didn't help her at all.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
That's why I'm saying she gets it on two levels because Sarah Palin was a conservative woman, so people were more comfortable making it.
But it's also she couldn't answer basic questions.
That too.
Like, as dumb as Pelosi might be, you ask her what she reads, even if she doesn't, she can make a couple newspapers off.
Yeah, but the thing is, no one ever asks Pelosi that.
And you know, she might fuck up if she got asked that question.
Right, but they asked Sarah Palin that question because they were going to jump on this.
Like, they were like, this chick seems dumb, and we're going to jump on this.
You could make Nancy Pelosi look pretty dumb if you wanted to.
Here's the thing: Pelosi's been around for a long time.
No one knew who Palin was.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Pelosi's part of this corrupt system.
Yes, absolutely.
But the reason they had to ask Palin a question like that is because no one had heard of her.
Exactly.
When she was.
Oh, so I'm sorry.
When she was named vice president, literally people in the media and probably on the Democratic side had to Google her because she was the governor of Alaska.
Oh, yeah, no.
Barely Canada.
Yeah.
I know.
It really is disbastards.
That was fucking you.
Oh, sorry.
Yes.
No, look, you're right.
I'm not defending picking Sarah Palin.
I'm not saying they shouldn't be harder on people like Pelosi and Biden.
I think that it's fine to be harsh on them.
I just think you should be harsh on all of them.
Equally, yes.
And it's all equal.
It's not like, you know, again, it's like we talked about before with feminism.
Like, there's just never Like, you never celebrate conservative women.
Well, you have to believe in the feminist ideals.
Right.
And then they will celebrate.
Well, exactly.
It's liberalism first.
First, you've got to be a big liberal.
And then, if you're a woman on top of it, then you can be like a hero.
Like, I'm like, Ayn Random.
You're basically a sellout if you're a conservative woman.
Right.
And they make, you know, all these fucking, you know, things of Ayn Rand with like these, like, they make fun of her face and like the big nose and stuff.
No feminist ever stands up for like, oh, you're making fun of this woman for her looks.
Yeah, you're judging her.
You're that fucking, you know, the most sold novel ever.
This woman's like a pretty goddamn successful woman.
Maybe just, you know, celebrate that.
Right.
She started a whole philosophy.
I mean, it's like.
And if someone attacked someone with liberal ideas for the way they look, they'd say that was sexist.
Well, anytime conservatives rip on the way Hillary Clinton looks, it's sexist.
They get, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
And it is.
It is.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is sexist.
And we all have those like a lot of people have impulses like that, like to be a little bit more, you know, think about like a woman's appearance more than a man.
Sure.
And there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff like that, for sure.
By the way, Onwir was saying also, I really do because now like Paul Ryan is, everyone says he's right, he's Ayn Rand for whatever reason gets brought up all the time with him, which just infuriates me, of course, because he has, you know, nothing to do with Ayn Rand.
But now all these people, it's like all these people on the left just when they start shitting on Ayn Rand's philosophy.
There's nothing dumber than that, man.
There's nothing dumber than when liberals just take shots at Ayn Rand when they have no idea what objectivism is.
They have no idea what she stood for.
And by the way, look, you can agree with her or not agree with her.
Ayn Rand was a brilliant fucking woman.
And if you think you're just going to destroy her in some tweet, you're fucking crazy.
Like she was the philosopher of her time.
Literally.
Second most ever to the Bible in book sales.
Like she's a super successful woman.
They go, oh, her whole philosophy was like, you're supposed to be selfish.
Oh, okay, don't do anything for no one.
So that's like what her philosophy is.
That's literally like what people say.
Like, yeah, what are you talking about?
It's not what she said at all.
Oh, so you should never, you should just, oh, she only cared about rich people.
No.
Well, that's that's the thing that you read.
You read a couple little excerpts from something, and you can pretty much take any conclusion you want to take from it.
Yeah, I mean, people just don't understand.
I mean, whatever.
It's like once you understand the philosophy, it actually makes a ton of sense.
And I think I don't agree with everything Ayn Rand ever said, but there's definitely like the main tenants to it.
I think she's pretty on point.
But anyway.
Ayn Rand Philosophy00:02:09
Before we wrap Ruben, anything you want to plug?
Just you can follow me on Twitter at Ruben Meta.
At Ruben Meta.
Follow him.
Ruben's very funny guy.
Tweets all types of interesting stuff.
Their life will be better.
It will.
Of course, also, Jess, you want to prove.
Jessica, by the way, you've been doing a great job with all the managing all the websites.
Jessica's been managing the Twitter account for the show and the Facebook account, and she's doing wonderful.
And now there's people following it, and you're commenting on things.
It's excellent.
It's a whole real thing.
I got to pick my guy.
I should have known it wasn't Dave.
Oh, yeah.
I saw all the action coming out of that page, and I'm like, Dave's doing great.
I should have known.
Oh, yeah.
I know it had nothing to do with you.
Now, Jessica, anything you want to plug?
I have a show at Caroline's on Broadway on September 26th at 7 p.m.
And it's free.
September 26th?
Yes.
7 p.m. free.
Go see Jessica Sager.
Please come support her.
She's very funny.
You're a doll.
She'll probably upflash you after the show.
I said, probably.
I gave you some wiggle room.
Right.
Don't get it.
You don't want the pressure of having to do it.
If I don't kill.
Well, don't say it like that.
Wait, are you saying if you don't kill, you're gonna flash?
Yeah, because I'll.
People are gonna intentionally not laugh.
Yeah, but then I'm gonna need the extra validation.
That's why I'm gonna do it.
If you laugh hard, she'll flash.
She gotta go.
Yeah, we should say either extreme.
Yeah, she flashes.
Something, listen, let's just say some crazy shit might go down.
Okay, let's just leave it like that.
Come to Joseph Gosager at Carolines.
Guys, if you are by any chance going to be in Minnesota this week, I will be at the House of Comedy in the Mall of America.
And then the week after that, I'm going to be in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada at the comic strip.
Guys, so I'm going to be out of town for the next couple weeks.
We might be off one of these weeks.
We will have an episode up next week.
But besides that, please follow us at The Problem Show on Twitter.
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Have a good one, guys.
Later.
If man is the father, the sun is the center of the earth.
In the middle of the universe, then why is this verse coming six times rehearsed?
Don't freestyle much, but I write them like such.
Amongst the fiends controlled by the screens, what does it all mean?
All this I'm seeing.
Human beings screaming vocal javelins.
Sign of a local unraveling.
My wandering got my wondering.
With crisis and all this crisis.
Hating Satan never knew what nice is.
Check the papers while I bet on ISIS.
More than your eye could see and ears could hear.
Ear by year, all the sense disappears.
Nonsense, perseveres, prayersless with fear.
Beware, two triple Oscars.
It might feel good, it might sound a little something.
But damn the game, if it don't mean nothing, what is game?