Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec - IRAN ROUND 2: Trump Peace Talks Begin & The Playbook For Right-Wing Victory
Aired: 2026-04-24
Duration: 47:14


=== Trump's Brilliant Naval Blockade (07:13) ===

[00:00:02]  Hey guys, it's Jack.
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[00:00:29]  Let's get it.
[00:00:34]  This is what happens when the Fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
[00:00:44]  A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
[00:00:50]  This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic.
[00:00:53]  Christ is King.
[00:00:54]  There's a whole number of very large companies, including Apple and Amazon and others, that have not sought reimbursements yet for the tariffs, meaning they haven't tried to collect refunds.
[00:01:07]  And from what I understand, part of the reason that they have waited is because there is a worry about, frankly, offending you.
[00:01:16]  Would you find it offensive for them to try to collect a refund?
[00:01:19]  I think it's brilliant if they don't do that.
[00:01:21]  Actually, if they don't do that, they got to know me very well.
[00:01:25]  I'm very honored by what you just said.
[00:01:27]  A court has handed down a ruling saying the state of Texas can require schools to post the Ten Commandments in classrooms.
[00:01:35]  I absolutely agree.
[00:01:35]  So Donald Trump has made clear that he does not want an independent Fed.
[00:01:39]  In fact, he has said, and I quote, Anybody that disagrees with me will never be Fed chairman.
[00:01:46]  And he's made clear that you are his sock puppet, saying last week that interest rates will drop, quote, when Kevin gets in.
[00:01:54]  Yeah.
[00:01:55]  Professor, what's a sock puppet?
[00:01:59]  I heard the reference from Senator Warren.
[00:02:01]  Yeah, what is it?
[00:02:02]  I'm not sure I know.
[00:02:03]  I think it's that thing you stick your hand in.
[00:02:05]  Yeah, kind of like this.
[00:02:07]  Yes.
[00:02:08]  Are you going to be the president's human sock puppet?
[00:02:11]  Senator, absolutely not.
[00:02:13]  Are you going to be anybody's human sock puppet?
[00:02:16]  No, I'm honored the president nominated me for the position, and I'll be an independent actor if confirmed as chairman of the Federal Reserve.
[00:02:23]  Our new policy is simple.
[00:02:25]  If you, an American warrior entrusted to defend this nation, believe that the flu vaccine is in your best interest, then you are free to take it.
[00:02:33]  You should.
[00:02:34]  But we will not force you.
[00:02:36]  Sir, would you use a nuclear weapon against Iran?
[00:02:38]  You posted on the truth social a few weeks ago.
[00:02:41]  Why do I need it?
[00:02:42]  Why would a stupid question like that be asked?
[00:02:45]  Why would I use a nuclear weapon?
[00:02:48]  We've totally, in a very conventional way, decimated them without it.
[00:02:52]  Now, I wouldn't use it.
[00:02:54]  A nuclear weapon should never be allowed to be used by anybody.
[00:02:59]  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live.
[00:03:03]  Real America's Voice.
[00:03:04]  Today is April 24th, 2026, Anno Domine.
[00:03:09]  U.S. envoys Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner are headed to Islamabad, Pakistan tomorrow for a high profile round two of negotiations, this time around directly with the Iranian foreign minister.
[00:03:24]  What do we know about this?
[00:03:27]  That Wyckoff and Kushner, as well as JD Vance, the vice president, were expected to meet with the Iranians earlier this week.
[00:03:35]  They were looking to go maybe Tuesday, maybe Wednesday.
[00:03:37]  For whatever reason, that didn't happen.
[00:03:39]  It had to do with a breakdown over control of the Strait of Hormuz and information, which, by the way, a story that was broken here on Human Events Daily last week that Iran was mining the Strait of Hormuz again covertly.
[00:03:54]  So remember, as you see that throughout the media, As you see that throughout all of the mainstream, just remember, where did you hear it first that Iran was putting more mines in the Strait of Hormuz?
[00:04:07]  You heard that right here on Human Events Daily when Tom Sauer, who I was in a unit with back in the Navy, a special operator, I was his intel guy, he had the information that Iran was covertly re mining the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:04:24]  What are they trying to do?
[00:04:25]  They're trying to close down that southern route so that only the northern route.
[00:04:30]  Will work.
[00:04:31]  What does this mean though?
[00:04:32]  Guess what?
[00:04:33]  It doesn't affect the naval blockade.
[00:04:37]  And last night, I had the opportunity to be on Fox News, and that's exactly what I talked about that President Trump's naval blockade is brilliant because he has set up the parameters that the United States Navy can then decide.
[00:04:50]  If they want to go after, if the United States government wants to go after any Iranian ship, they can do so.
[00:04:57]  They don't need to be in the Strait of Hormuz to do this.
[00:04:59]  They don't need to be in the Gulf of Aden to do this.
[00:05:00]  They can do this anywhere in the Indian Ocean or beyond.
[00:05:05]  So, what does it mean?
[00:05:06]  It means time is not on the side of the Iranians here.
[00:05:10]  Every single day that they don't ship that oil to China, they're losing money.
[00:05:17]  They're losing millions.
[00:05:18]  They're losing billions.
[00:05:20]  And the Iranian labor minister came out and said, What, two million Iranians are now unemployed because of the war?
[00:05:27]  Guess what?
[00:05:28]  It doesn't work.
[00:05:29]  If you don't have money to be able to pay the IRGZ, to be able to pay these FACFIAC ships, if you don't have the ability to pay this mosquito fleet, whatever you want to call it, the fast.
[00:05:39]  Boats, the small boys, you will not have the ability to maintain your military if you don't have any money.
[00:05:47]  It's called economic warfare in reverse.
[00:05:50]  The Iranians want to play that game.
[00:05:52]  Well, guess what?
[00:05:53]  So can the Americans.
[00:05:54]  That's why the foreign minister, who remember, he said he was going to Pakistan, that he was on his way to Russia, he's on his way to Moscow and others.
[00:06:00]  That's why he's saying, you know what?
[00:06:02]  Maybe I am going to sit down with the Americans.
[00:06:04]  Maybe I am going to sit down with Kushner, with Witkoff, because actually the blockade is working.
[00:06:13]  That's the key here.
[00:06:15]  That's what they don't want to tell you that the blockade is actually working.
[00:06:19]  So the warmongers remember, that's on one side.
[00:06:22]  That's Lindsey Graham, the jester goon for more war.
[00:06:25]  Lindsey Graham says he wants boots on the ground.
[00:06:28]  Lindsey Graham had this half baked idea that we were going to send our troops into Karg Island, where I said, and many others pointed out, they would be sitting ducks.
[00:06:38]  And according to the Wall Street Journal, that's exactly what President Trump said.
[00:06:42]  But others of us, People actually served in the military said, Why not just use the world's finest navy to enact an incredible blockade?
[00:06:53]  The most beautiful blockade the world has ever seen.
[00:06:57]  Of Iranian ships operating outside of Iranian ports, there at the Strait of Hormuz, and then hammer out a deal.
[00:07:04]  Well, the warmonger said a deal wasn't coming.
[00:07:07]  Guess what?
[00:07:08]  Tomorrow, everyone's sitting down in Islamabad.
[00:07:11]  Direct talks, the Iranian foreign minister, Jared Kushner, and Steve Wyckoff.

=== The Ghost Bed Fight (02:07) ===

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[00:07:24]  This is Human Events with Jack Passover.
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[00:07:29]  What America First truly means.
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[00:07:38]  All right, folks, Jack was up back live, human events, daily, real America's voice.
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[00:08:31]  I'm buying you a bed.
[00:08:32]  And I'm buying you a ghost bed because ghost bed, it's so good.
[00:08:36]  It's what Tiny Tay and myself sleep on.
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[00:08:41]  We got the ghost bed.
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[00:08:45]  And by the way, I'll tell you just another piece.
[00:08:48]  You know, aside from that, when I get home and the boys see daddy comes home, they say, it's time for the rumble.
[00:08:56]  The rumble is just on.
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[00:09:01]  Lately, it's been members of the X Men.
[00:09:03]  And so, when we fight, we always fight on the ghost bed, and the body slams have been absolutely epic.
[00:09:11]  And then, of course, they take me down and they try to hold me down, but I get them back up and I just start slamming them left and right.
[00:09:17]  And ghost bed is the bed for you.
[00:09:19]  You got a family, you got a wife, even if it's just for you, it is exquisite.

=== How Moms for Liberty Organize (08:44) ===

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[00:09:59]  I want to bring Joshua Lysak on here right now because, Joshua, there's this, I mean, it's incredible.
[00:10:08]  You know, we had this book on humans that came out.
[00:10:11]  It did New York Times, people still talking about it.
[00:10:14]  We also did Bulletproof 2024.
[00:10:17]  But then some folks in, you know, sort of the wider, you know, the, what do you really want to call it, the poso cinematic universe or whatever, some other folks were saying that, you know, this Joshua Lysak guy is an interesting cat.
[00:10:32]  Maybe I could use him to help me write a book that people have wanted to put out.
[00:10:36]  And of course, I remember when you and I were first talking, that's.
[00:10:39]  Pretty much your stated reason for wanting to come in as a co author.
[00:10:44]  And you have yet another new book coming out this year.
[00:10:50]  Tell us about it and tell us what it is.
[00:10:53]  Thank you, Jack.
[00:10:53]  Yes.
[00:10:54]  A book that I've been wanting to write for five, six years now is basically the right wing organizer's handbook.
[00:11:01]  You know, the left for decades, they have had their own, let's say, administrative NGO complex of candidates, future candidates, of organizational tactics.
[00:11:12]  And of course, organizing is kind of a left wing coded word.
[00:11:16]  And many people will complain why is it that democratic ideas and far left wing viewpoints become law in this country despite their unpopularity?
[00:11:25]  Well, it's because they organize.
[00:11:27]  And I teamed up with Cliff Maloney of the PA Chase and of Citizens Alliance, of course.
[00:11:31]  Charlie Kirk brought him in to basically, long story short, win Pennsylvania for President Donald J. Trump in 2024.
[00:11:39]  And we combined our knowledge bases and experiences to produce Run Right, a complete election playbook to win, which covers campaigning, it covers grassroots organizing, it covers socio political advocacy, another set of mass persuasion.
[00:11:56]  Methods and techniques that will enable normal people with viewpoints like ours, like yours, to make our values into national, state, and local policy.
[00:12:09]  So, this is great.
[00:12:10]  Now, the book is called Run Right, yourself, Cliff Maloney.
[00:12:13]  We're going to have Cliff on after this.
[00:12:15]  You know, so talk to us about this.
[00:12:17]  And I want to get into that story a little bit, but let's look at, say, oh, I don't know, the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
[00:12:26]  Organization was set up by the left and used for years as an organizational tool for the left to crush, to intimidate, to censor, work with law enforcement against the right for years.
[00:12:41]  So, when we talk about the SPLC in terms of effectiveness, that goes to show you how powerful organizing can become if done right.
[00:12:49]  Yes, there is ideological alignment between among the various players.
[00:12:55]  And of course, I'm not sure if some of you may have seen Tim Cass.
[00:12:58]  Tim Pool had a great post this morning, which is something like, you know, conservatives show up to an event, liberals pay Nazis to show up at the conservative event, and then the liberals get to say, look at all the Nazis at the conservative event.
[00:13:12]  Well, why has that tactic been deployed time and time again?
[00:13:16]  It's because of the ideological alignment between the public sector, between the private sector, and within the NGO administrative complex, to borrow a term from another book I've coming out later this year with Data Republican.
[00:13:27]  I've got five Joshua Lysik and friends' books coming out this year.
[00:13:31]  Alone.
[00:13:31]  It's going to be a blast.
[00:13:32]  And Cliff Maloney gets to be the first one.
[00:13:36]  I'm so excited about this book because it empowers people with 18 steps, step by step, with no step skit.
[00:13:43]  Basically, how to go from, frankly, kind of an anonymous nobody citizen to holding power, to wielding power.
[00:13:52]  One of the quotes we return to time and again inside of the book, Run Right with Cliff Maloney, coming out Tuesday, by the way, is from you, Jack.
[00:14:00]  When you said that conservatives, if you have principles but no power, you have what?
[00:14:07]  You have nothing.
[00:14:09]  But if you have power but no principles, you have tyranny.
[00:14:12]  Well, it's finally time for the right, broadly, to understand the necessity of power to protect that which is worth conserving.
[00:14:23]  If you don't have the power to conserve, then you're not conserving anything.
[00:14:27]  And so run right this complete playbook.
[00:14:30]  To organize, to campaign, to rally, to share your vision in a persuasively communicated way, to get the donors, the supporters, the volunteers, the door knockers, whatever it is that you need to win, run right is the way to do it.
[00:14:46]  And of course, it has a delicious dual meaning now, doesn't it?
[00:14:49]  Run right.
[00:14:51]  No, I love the double entendre there.
[00:14:52]  And plus, you can look at so many organizations.
[00:14:56]  Obviously, TPOSA and Turning Point Action are the most clear examples of this.
[00:15:02]  But I would also even point to Moms for Liberty.
[00:15:05]  You take a group that, you know, prior really to COVID and the lockdowns, you didn't have this huge focus on school boards.
[00:15:14]  But then when people through that situation were looking over their kids' shoulder on these Zoom classes, finding out what the teacher was doing, they said, oh my gosh, I can't believe this is being taught in schools.
[00:15:24]  And then Moms for Liberty just comes out of almost out of nowhere, but that meets that moment of the anger of so many of the mama bears out there in the world.
[00:15:34]  Saying, what can we do to protect our kids?
[00:15:36]  And what they did was incredible.
[00:15:38]  And I'm sure that's something that you get into in the book.
[00:15:41]  Absolutely.
[00:15:42]  And interestingly enough, Tiffany Justice, who was a founder of Moms for Liberty, she wrote an endorsement for the book that appears inside.
[00:15:49]  And of course, the chief operating officer.
[00:15:50]  Yeah, I didn't even realize that, but it doesn't surprise me at all.
[00:15:53]  Doesn't surprise me at all.
[00:15:54]  Yeah.
[00:15:54]  And Tyler Bauer, of Turning Point, he wrote the foreword, which explains Charlie's original vision for creating an organizing apparatus that acts kind of as the counter to the radical left in America.
[00:16:07]  That's amazing.
[00:16:08]  So, talk about Moms for Liberty.
[00:16:10]  How did they employ this model?
[00:16:13]  Yes, what I think they did so well, first and foremost, was interestingly enough, they repurposed a model of Marshall Gans.
[00:16:21]  If anyone doesn't know who Dr. Marshall Gans is, I would say he wrote the most consequential book of the 20th century that is Organizing People, Power, Change.
[00:16:30]  It's also called The Organizer's Handbook.
[00:16:33]  It was deployed by the Clinton campaigns, the Obama campaigns.
[00:16:37]  If you look at Marshall Gans, just check out his Wikipedia page.
[00:16:39]  There's some information in the book on him.
[00:16:41]  But he developed the model of community organizing that allows just a private citizen to become a powerful player in society and in culture.
[00:16:50]  And his ideas have been deployed to make, for example, homosexual marriage equality in the United States, is a direct deployment of Marshall Gann's community organizing methods.
[00:17:02]  And guess what?
[00:17:03]  We have in one of the appendices a tribute to Marshall Gann, if you could call it that, called the Right-Wing Organizers Handbook.
[00:17:09]  And it's laying out the storytelling and persuasion model.
[00:17:14]  The rhetorical devices that are used by effective community organizers for a particular issue to get people onto your side, to have everyone distributed and empowered to tell the same story.
[00:17:26]  Rather than build this rigid hierarchy, you can build something like a snowflake type of a model, a snowflake type of a team that everyone is appropriately empowered in their domain.
[00:17:40]  And Moms for Liberty has been a good example of deploying that, as has Turning Point, more so than most in the United States for the right wing perspective and values.
[00:17:50]  Look, you know, it's something where, and I've talked to Tyler about this so many times, the left is just so far ahead of us on this.
[00:17:59]  They're a generation ahead of us.
[00:18:01]  You know, we would rather sit around and infight and talk about this, talk about that.
[00:18:05]  And what does the left do?
[00:18:06]  You saw what they did in Virginia, right?

=== Charlottesville and Political Power (15:42) ===

[00:18:08]  They just organize, they take power.
[00:18:09]  And then once they take power, they give themselves more power immediately.
[00:18:13]  They don't wait around for it.
[00:18:15]  And they bring in the big guns like Barack Obama.
[00:18:17]  They go to Spamberger.
[00:18:18]  They've sent it right down to Richmond from Northern Virginia.
[00:18:22]  Which by rights should be part of Washington, D.C., but I digress.
[00:18:25]  And what do they do?
[00:18:26]  They organize and take power, and then they organize and take more power, and then they organize and continue to take power.
[00:18:32]  They are solely and steely laser focused on this.
[00:18:38]  Now, on the right, we have debate, we have conversation, we'd love that, but at the same time, we are now just starting to learn that it is the power of organization that gives you the ability to enact those ideas.
[00:18:52]  Into reality.
[00:18:54]  And if you do not take power, then your principles are meaningless.
[00:18:59]  We'll be right back.
[00:19:00]  Human Events Daily.
[00:19:01]  You talk about influencers.
[00:19:02]  These are influencers.
[00:19:04]  And they're friends of mine.
[00:19:07]  Jack Posobic.
[00:19:08]  Where's Jack?
[00:19:09]  Jack.
[00:19:09]  He's done a great job.
[00:19:11]  Let's go.
[00:19:17]  All right, Jack Posobic.
[00:19:18]  Here we are back.
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[00:20:20]  I want to go back to Joshua Lysak because Joshua, we mentioned the SPLC.
[00:20:26]  A moment ago, we saw the indictment that came out.
[00:20:29]  And I just want to talk about something that my good friend and yours, the dearly departed Scott Adams, he talked about two things almost incessantly.
[00:20:40]  One was the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the other was Charlottesville.
[00:20:45]  Now, I don't know if Scott ever came out and said that the SPLC was behind Charlottesville, but he seemed to be able to intuit.
[00:20:56]  That Charlottesville was what he would always call it the tent pole hoax of the anti Trump era.
[00:21:06]  And he always said that if you can knock down Charlottesville, then you can knock down this entire idea that Donald Trump is a racist and all the rest, that they're all lying.
[00:21:17]  Well, here we are, just a few months after Scott left us, and we find out that not only was there a lie about what Donald Trump said about Charlottesville, that the entire thing was a setup hoax.
[00:21:30]  To begin with.
[00:21:32]  And Joshua, how is it, do you think?
[00:21:35]  And I want to go a little bit on a meta level here.
[00:21:39]  How did Scott know this?
[00:21:40]  How did he figure that all out?
[00:21:41]  Without any evidence, he just looked at it and could figure it out.
[00:21:46]  One of the books that Scott released in 2019 was a book called Loser Think, which are ideas that impoverish our own thinking, our own reasoning, but we think are actually really smart.
[00:21:57]  Well, if we think that way, we end up losering a lot in our lives.
[00:22:01]  And one of the models, one of the frameworks that Scott Adams used in Loser Think allows us to think about following the money.
[00:22:12]  And that's a simple phrase that we've all heard before.
[00:22:14]  But it more so gets to this idea of incentive structures.
[00:22:19]  And Scott had pointed out in a number of videos that have resurfaced since then and since his untimely passing, Scott would point out that if you fundraise off the existence of, let's say, racism and racist activities,
[00:22:33]  then your ability to make more money is therefore related directly to the existence of there being more racism, which will often result in the, let's say, demand for racism outpacing, far outpacing, the existence of actual racism.
[00:22:53]  Racism, the supply of actual racism.
[00:22:56]  So, when you're incentivized for there to be racism, what do you need to do in order to keep making money?
[00:23:01]  You need to fan the flames.
[00:23:03]  You need to exaggerate.
[00:23:04]  You need to do whatever you possibly can to make the problem seem as large as possible.
[00:23:10]  And this, frankly, is the trap of every charitable organization.
[00:23:14]  If you're dedicated to fighting a specific cause, your ability to make money is directly related to the existence and the perceived.
[00:23:23]  Trouble that that causes.
[00:23:25]  In the case of the Southern Poverty Law Center, and by the way, their 501c4 sister organization, the SPLC Action Fund, which does do the political work that a nonprofit charitable organization otherwise has a wall preventing that, but they can work kind of in tandem unofficially.
[00:23:48]  Well, and just before we go down that road, we actually have the tweet here from Scott Adams where someone said, You're disregarding the, this guy Andy Brohard, who says, you're disregarding the formation of racist groups and uptake in hate crimes since the election.
[00:24:05]  Of course, he's referring to this data set that the SPLC and the narrative that it puts out.
[00:24:11]  Maybe the public is whole less racist, but giving rise to dangerous extremists completely outweighs that.
[00:24:16]  Scott says, politely, both can be true, but also consider that when you pay someone to identify racist organizations, they find more than if you don't pay them.
[00:24:26]  And that is what happens with the SPLC.
[00:24:28]  So it might be a measurement incentive issue.
[00:24:33]  That was seven years ago.
[00:24:36]  Scott Adams called it all out, and Elon Musk had tweeted this out.
[00:24:40]  A bunch of us were quote tweeting it, where this is just how far ahead Scott was.
[00:24:44]  And it's really simple.
[00:24:45]  He followed the incentives, he followed the money.
[00:24:48]  And when incentives and money align, that is when you're going to find hoaxes.
[00:24:53]  Now, I don't know if he ever tied directly the SPLC to Charlottesville, but my goodness, I think he knew.
[00:24:59]  I think on some level, he just knew.
[00:25:03]  I think he also knew with regard to all of the claims that were being made.
[00:25:07]  Look at the extent to which Democratic candidates fundraise off of the Charlottesville fine people hoax.
[00:25:14]  Scott Adams was also one of the first to call out the explicit, but at first barely mentioned, barely made attention in the mainstream.
[00:25:24]  But remember candidate Joe Biden, when he was asked in 2020 why he was running for president, what did he say?
[00:25:30]  It was because of Charlottesville, the fine people hoax.
[00:25:34]  So we had for four years.
[00:25:36]  A hoaxocracy.
[00:25:37]  We had a hoaxer in chief because of this one event that, if you added it all up, collectively billions of dollars likely changed hands as a result of this lie, the Charlottesville Fine People hoax.
[00:25:53]  And now that the SBLC's funding of it, partial, whole, still figuring all of that out yet, what the SBLC has done to basically increase the supply of racism so that their services can meet the demand, so to speak.
[00:26:10]  It does look like a bit of a racket, but it follows the instruction description that Scott Adams laid out in Loser Think, the book, and elsewhere.
[00:26:18]  Joshua, where can people go and remind people of the name of the book again?
[00:26:23]  Yes, I'm at Joshua Lysak on X, and you can get the book by me and Cliff Maloney at runrightbook.com.
[00:26:31]  Runrightbook.com, Joshua Lysak.
[00:26:33]  Give him a follow, and Cliff Maloney himself will be here right next.
[00:26:36]  Univens daily continues.
[00:26:40]  Where's Jack?
[00:26:42]  Where's Jack?
[00:26:45]  Where is he?
[00:26:46]  Jack, I want to see you.
[00:26:49]  Great job, Jack.
[00:26:51]  Thank you.
[00:26:51]  What a job you do.
[00:26:52]  You know, we have an incredible thing.
[00:26:54]  We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting politicians.
[00:27:00]  All right, folks.
[00:27:05]  Jack was up.
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[00:28:16]  You know, folks, I just got to throw it out that I was looking at some more Scott Adams' tweets just now about Charlottesville.
[00:28:22]  He has another one down here.
[00:28:23]  2023, March 8th, 2023.
[00:28:26]  What are the odds those tiki torch carrying neo Nazis from Charlottesville would only rally once?
[00:28:31]  Feels like it was an American intel op against Trump.
[00:28:34]  That's my working assumption.
[00:28:37]  That's how far ahead the guy was.
[00:28:39]  Dude was just a genius.
[00:28:40]  Dude was just a literal, actual genius calling for us in real time the operating system behind reality.
[00:28:49]  Someone else who also understands the operating system behind reality, among other things, is Cliff Maloney.
[00:28:56]  Now, Cliff joins us.
[00:28:57]  He was just on, we just had Joshua on, and we were talking about the book Run Right.
[00:29:02]  And Cliff is the co author of that book.
[00:29:05]  What's up, Cliff?
[00:29:07]  Good to be here, Jack.
[00:29:07]  Thanks for having me.
[00:29:10]  So, talk to us a little bit.
[00:29:11]  You know, we just had Joshua on, but talk to us a little bit about this book in practice because that's where you operate.
[00:29:17]  You operate in the field.
[00:29:19]  I mean, gosh, you're in the field, what, like 300 days a year or something?
[00:29:22]  Last time I checked, I can't even keep up with where you are on a daily basis in the world.
[00:29:26]  And I always know you're plugging away somewhere because you understand that's what it takes to build an organization and run an organization.
[00:29:35]  Yeah.
[00:29:36]  And look, when we decided to write this book, you know, it was really fascinating because I had to put pen to paper.
[00:29:42]  About what happened in 2024, right?
[00:29:44]  So we were able to retell the story.
[00:29:46]  Jack, I appreciate you endorsing the book.
[00:29:48]  Tyler Boyer with the foreword.
[00:29:50]  But to be able to come together and tell the story, obviously to honor Charlie, because this was really the mission that he put so many activists on, right?
[00:29:59]  To go out there to do the work, to knock that extra door.
[00:30:02]  So we not only talk about 2024 and talk about what we did in Pennsylvania, but we took all of these notes from these campaigns that we've been doing pretty much over the last decade.
[00:30:12]  And we put together a step by step guide that if you watching right now want to run for office, want to be involved with the campaign, it's not going to talk to you about all the big time consultants.
[00:30:22]  It's going to talk to you about the blocking and tackling to win in the political arena.
[00:30:28]  Remember, this isn't 2024, this is now 2026.
[00:30:31]  We got a lot of work.
[00:30:32]  You see on the screen there, Glenn Jacobs, one of our favorites, the wrestler Kane, Knox County mayor, gave a glowing endorsement.
[00:30:40]  Run Right finally gives the right a serious data driven playbook.
[00:30:44]  For modern campaigns.
[00:30:45]  Appreciate Glenn for endorsing it.
[00:30:47]  But Jack, it's about time we get serious.
[00:30:49]  I think Virginia should be a wake up call.
[00:30:52]  And that's exactly why we wrote this book, RunWriteBook.com, if people want to get their hands on it.
[00:30:57]  It's time for us to take it seriously and win these elections.
[00:31:03]  Well, so, you know, Virginia is a wake up call on all of this.
[00:31:07]  Talk to us a little bit about Virginia and how, I'm just going to say it, it looks like the GOP went in without organization.
[00:31:16]  They came in over the top, a lot of cable news ads, but without much on the ground work and lost a nail biter, which honestly, and I'm just going to call it out that, and I said the same thing to Tyler, and I'll say it, and I think he said some stuff online as well, but that could have been one with an effective ground game.
[00:31:36]  Absolutely correct, Jack.
[00:31:37]  And I'm going to keep saying this as loud as I can.
[00:31:39]  $100 million.
[00:31:42]  That's what we decided to spend donor money on to try to defend John Cornyn in Texas.
[00:31:48]  It is an embarrassment.
[00:31:50]  The left understands this.
[00:31:52]  They fully fund all the 501c3s, all the 501c4s.
[00:31:56]  It's permanent infrastructure.
[00:31:58]  Tyler's exactly right.
[00:31:59]  He's been screaming about this.
[00:32:00]  We reached out to donors.
[00:32:02]  We've all got programs, we've all got things we're trying to do.
[00:32:05]  Real organizations like Citizens Alliance, like Turning Point, so many other partners.
[00:32:10]  They have the manpower, but what are we missing?
[00:32:13]  It's the dollars.
[00:32:15]  And the consultants continue to flood all this money into these TV ads, TV ads.
[00:32:20]  But groups like Turning Point, groups like Citizens Alliance, we are working to build what we call permanent infrastructure.
[00:32:27]  And that is what we need to see.
[00:32:29]  Now, look, the change is happening.
[00:32:31]  I want to be clear about that.
[00:32:32]  This is not like, oh, throw your arms in the air, we're failing.
[00:32:34]  2024 was the first real pool.
[00:32:37]  And Charlie gets a lot of credit for that.
[00:32:39]  Pulling the donors away from these consultants.
[00:32:41]  Consultants that want to take 15% of every dollar they spend on television ads.
[00:32:47]  So 2024 started that, but now we've got to get serious.
[00:32:50]  In Virginia, being that it was right before the midterms, it might actually be a blessing.
[00:32:55]  It might be the wake up call we need to tell the donor class and to tell all the activists to focus on a real ground game.
[00:33:03]  That's the missing piece.
[00:33:06]  And we talk about ground game.
[00:33:08]  This is so key because, look, at the end of the day, people's media consumption habits aren't the same as what they were 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago.
[00:33:20]  It's not the same.
[00:33:21]  It's not enough to just go up on TV anymore, is it, Cliff?
[00:33:25]  Now, look, I talk about this in the book, but the entire strategy has changed.
[00:33:30]  Not because voting habits have changed specifically, but because the rules have changed, Jack.
[00:33:36]  It used to be that you wanted that perfect, Karl Rove message going into the November morning of the election because everybody voted on election day.
[00:33:45]  Right now, we don't have election weekend.
[00:33:47]  We don't have election week.
[00:33:48]  We don't even have election month.

=== Fetterman's High-Risk Primary (13:23) ===

[00:33:50]  In Pennsylvania, we have election season.
[00:33:53]  In Arizona, in Nevada, in New Hampshire, like all these states, you're voting for a long period of time.
[00:34:00]  And so that's why the ground game now has such a needed impact because it's not about persuading these voters that are unsure.
[00:34:08]  It's about going to the 900,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania.
[00:34:12]  That are not likely to vote this year, and spending all of our time getting them a mail in ballot, which will give them a much better shot at voting.
[00:34:22]  That's why the ground game now matters so much more.
[00:34:24]  Yes, you have to be on TV, you've got to be on radio, you've got to be on digital, you've got to do mail, you've got to send the text, but you've got to match them when it comes to the door to door ground game because of the rule change.
[00:34:36]  That's what Charlie identified.
[00:34:38]  That's what we're doing at Citizens Alliance, and we need to continue to focus on the ground game.
[00:34:45]  I remember after that 22 loss in Arizona, I remember sitting there with Charlie when, you know, when we were calculating the numbers and we were crunching some of the returns and the tranches.
[00:34:58]  And he just looked at me, he said, he said, we got to get, we got to do ballots.
[00:35:03]  And you could tell in that moment, that's how Charlie was, by the way.
[00:35:06]  He wasn't like, you know, someone who would plan things out super long in advance.
[00:35:11]  He would make the decision and that was it.
[00:35:13]  He didn't take a long time to decide, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:35:16]  When he decided something, he might look at something for a while and he'd have an idea.
[00:35:21]  But when he made a decision, that's what I'm trying to say.
[00:35:23]  He was decisive, he was resolute, and there wasn't any talking him out of it.
[00:35:28]  It was, we are going to do this, and that's how we're going to win.
[00:35:32]  And that's exactly where he put not only his time, his effort, and yes, the money of his organization, Turning Point Action and Turning Point Pack, into ballots and ballot chasing for 2024.
[00:35:43]  And we all saw the result.
[00:35:45]  No, absolutely.
[00:35:46]  And obviously, I was with you that night, you know, to get the call.
[00:35:48]  We were honored to share that moment together.
[00:35:51]  But I always tell people, I don't really get the credit.
[00:35:53]  I mean, Charlie's the one that talked me into it.
[00:35:55]  Charlie's the one that recruited me.
[00:35:56]  Him and Tyler, you know, were the ones that told me, look, we know you don't usually do federal races, but you knocked a lot of doors.
[00:36:02]  You're one of the only other orgs that does it.
[00:36:04]  You're from Pennsylvania.
[00:36:05]  Your group, Citizens Alliance, is in Pennsylvania.
[00:36:08]  You ought to do this program.
[00:36:09]  You know, we're going to do Arizona, Wisconsin.
[00:36:11]  We're going to do a couple other states, but we need somebody to handle Pennsylvania.
[00:36:15]  And so it wasn't Charlie just trying to get his organization to get credit.
[00:36:19]  It was him encouraging the apparatus, or as Tyler calls it, the entire Republican apparatus to get into a realignment to focus on getting these ballots in because the rules changed.
[00:36:31]  And it was such a journey, Jack.
[00:36:33]  You were there every step of the way.
[00:36:34]  I was on your show, heck, probably weekly in 2024, giving PA updates, looking at the numbers.
[00:36:39]  And we need that type of effort in 2026.
[00:36:42]  And that's what Raymond did.
[00:36:45]  Look, I mean, we coined the phrase, right?
[00:36:47]  PA.
[00:36:48]  We never should have made t shirts.
[00:36:49]  PA is the play.
[00:36:50]  We never actually made shirts of that.
[00:36:52]  But yeah, PA is the play.
[00:36:53]  We said it over and over.
[00:36:54]  And it ended up being true.
[00:36:56]  And Pennsylvania was the state that put Donald Trump over in 2024.
[00:37:02]  We're always going to remember that moment.
[00:37:03]  And now it's obviously taking on a different, you know, even a different, higher resonance, I think, with all of us.
[00:37:10]  But the math is still the same.
[00:37:14]  The math was true.
[00:37:16]  We were right on the formula.
[00:37:17]  We were right on the basics and we just worked through it.
[00:37:21]  And sometimes, folks, that really is the truth.
[00:37:23]  If you just do the work and you focus in on what you need to do, you can have that victory.
[00:37:30]  Right back, Jack Posobic, Cliff Maloney, Human Events Daily.
[00:37:32]  Call this the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour.
[00:37:35]  I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobic.
[00:37:40]  And that is, I'll be honest.
[00:37:49]  All right, folks, we're back.
[00:37:50]  Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
[00:37:53]  And we're on with Cliff Maloney.
[00:37:54]  Now, Cliff, we're talking about these ground games.
[00:37:57]  We're talking about the situation in the States.
[00:38:00]  We got to go to Texas, man, because so many people are looking at that Texas primary where $100 million was spent on John Cornyn.
[00:38:11]  And our good buddy Scott Pressler is now just taking through some of his old videos, talking about amnesty, talking about don't do mass deportations, all this stuff.
[00:38:22]  That's $100 million of good money that could have been spent on ground games, which, by the way, don't cost $100 million in actual key states that we need to win.
[00:38:32]  Or, by the way, flip.
[00:38:33]  What's going on here?
[00:38:35]  Yeah, look, this should be a felony.
[00:38:37]  Spending $100 million to try to defend John Cornyn should be an absolute outrage for any Republican that gives money to any of these establishment organizations.
[00:38:48]  And, Jack, I want to make it very clear what could we have done with that $100 million?
[00:38:52]  Look at Virginia.
[00:38:53]  Let's keep saying it.
[00:38:54]  Right?
[00:38:55]  That was such a narrow loss, and you didn't have any full scale ground game that was able to go in and build permanent infrastructure.
[00:39:03]  But I tell people this all the time look, we set a plan, and Charlie was also very good about this.
[00:39:08]  You set a plan, you go to your activists, you go to your donors, you're public about the plan, you're public about how much it costs, and then you got to go out and do two things you got to raise the money, and then you got to execute the plan, right?
[00:39:19]  And to do these for these large statewide ground games, it's very difficult.
[00:39:24]  But what's even more difficult is when battles pop up like this, And the Democrat Party tosses all their money to the organizations and gets it funded.
[00:39:33]  What do we do on the right?
[00:39:35]  We're expected to pull our resources from our 2026 and 2028 plan and all the swing states that we're in because this is the new shiny item that we have to fight.
[00:39:45]  And it is a battle that needs to be fought.
[00:39:47]  But the party on the left steps up and funds it, the party on the right sits it out and dumps their money into rhinos like corrupt scumbag John Cornyn in Texas when we have a patriot.
[00:40:00]  and Ken Paxton ready to go, who's about to dominate this runoff.
[00:40:06]  No, we call him Action Paxton.
[00:40:08]  In fact, he posted an action figure picture of himself as Action Paxton and gave me a shout out the other day for talking about it.
[00:40:18]  Look, you need Action Paxton in there.
[00:40:20]  That's somebody who actually represents the MAGA base, actually represents, by the way, the people of Texas and is with them on the issues.
[00:40:29]  He's not just, I believe, as the, you know, I know we're Pennsylvania guys, but I believe the Texans have a phrase called all hat, no cattle.
[00:40:37]  And Ken Paxton is the exact opposite of that, whereas John Cornyn fits it to a T.
[00:40:43]  And when we're looking at it, though, it's the same situation where you get these consultants who make, and I'm just going to say it, they make money a commission based on media buys.
[00:40:56]  This has been something that's written in.
[00:40:58]  And honestly, Cliff, it's something that's just kind of shocking to me.
[00:41:01]  I don't even know.
[00:41:02]  Do donors even know that's how it works?
[00:41:05]  Yeah, they do.
[00:41:05]  But look, I even tell people the left knows it works too, but the left's consultants don't play the shenanigans.
[00:41:11]  Because they play to win.
[00:41:13]  This is about power.
[00:41:14]  Yes, they're going to make their money, but they're not going to make their money and lose.
[00:41:18]  They're going to make their money and win.
[00:41:20]  On the right, we just don't want to pull that money.
[00:41:24]  Look, Fetterman versus Oz is a great example.
[00:41:27]  If Fetterman spent about $10 million on chasing ballots, and Oz is a great guy, love Dr. Oz.
[00:41:34]  But when you look at the outside groups that came in, how much money was spent on ballot chasing?
[00:41:40]  And it's like Fetterman's people pulled $10 million.
[00:41:43]  That's $1.5 million in commissions that no consultant took on the left so that they could go out and chase those ballots, get them all in before his debate oops moment, where we all realized he wasn't really able to put a thought together.
[00:41:58]  But that's the difference.
[00:41:59]  The left doesn't put up with it.
[00:42:01]  They forced the consultants to not take the commission and to put it into things that work.
[00:42:05]  We're on the right.
[00:42:07]  We're out to lunch.
[00:42:08]  It has to stop.
[00:42:11]  Now that I think about it, I may have to run some gossip by you that I've been hearing recently.
[00:42:18]  Regarding Pennsylvania.
[00:42:21]  And you mentioned Oz, but I also wanted to mention another senator from Pennsylvania, a guy by the name of John Fetterman.
[00:42:29]  And there's some interesting chatter about Fetterman and his prospects for 2028, because I think that, less I saw, he hasn't received a single endorsement from any member of the Pennsylvania Democrat House delegation.
[00:42:48]  Do you think John Fetterman is at risk of being primaried?
[00:42:54]  I think that if John Fetterman wins the primary in 2028 as a Democrat, I think he's going to be nearly impossible to beat because the Democrats will hold their nose.
[00:43:03]  And a lot of the Republicans look at Fetterman, as I would be one of these people, as the most sane Democrat in Washington, D.C.
[00:43:09]  So I think the bigger question here, Jack, is does this push to get him to try to switch to be a Republican have legs?
[00:43:16]  And I know a lot of activists and a lot of donors that are pushing him to do that.
[00:43:20]  But here's what would have to happen.
[00:43:21]  I want to be clear just switching to become a Republican, well, that doesn't matter.
[00:43:26]  What matters is your vote.
[00:43:27]  And so you'd have to see almost a full realignment from John Fetterman to become a sane Republican, but to vote with Republicans.
[00:43:35]  And he's going to have to do it quick if he wants to prove himself for a Republican seat that he would be asking for for six more years.
[00:43:42]  I didn't think there was too much credibility to this.
[00:43:44]  The more I hear from people, the more I see his actions, there is a real push to get him to switch to be a Republican, vote with the Republicans, and then in 2028, try to win the Republican nomination.
[00:43:55]  We'll see what happens.
[00:43:58]  So, you think, well, hold on, Bright, so he would have to switch.
[00:44:01]  I'm just thinking through the mechanics of this.
[00:44:03]  He would have to switch before he declares for office, isn't that correct?
[00:44:06]  Because he would have to compete in the primary of that party to be able to compete in the general.
[00:44:12]  Correct.
[00:44:13]  And I think that's why you're going to have to see something, I would say, by the end of maybe Q3 in 2027.
[00:44:19]  But he's going to, if he does it, he's going to have to prove himself if he wants to be a Republican.
[00:44:23]  Or run as an independent.
[00:44:27]  Yeah, but I think, you know, the math a lot of times, look, As a sitting senator, you know, that's the one way maybe you are able to do it.
[00:44:34]  But I just think he's going to have a problem with all the money that's spent.
[00:44:37]  I don't know how you raise money as an independent.
[00:44:39]  You almost need the party apparatus behind you.
[00:44:42]  But he is 100% going to get a primary from the Democrats.
[00:44:46]  It's going to be the battle for his life.
[00:44:47]  But, Jack, I want to warn Pennsylvanians if John Fetterman does receive the Democrat nomination in 2028, his poll numbers right now, his favorable numbers with Republicans in the suburbs are through the roof.
[00:45:03]  Because Fox has him on.
[00:45:04]  Everybody has him on because he's saying sane things that disagree with the Democrat Party leaders.
[00:45:11]  So it is going to be very difficult for the Republican nominee if they don't primary him out.
[00:45:16]  But Democrats love power, they love control.
[00:45:19]  If they can't control John Fetterman, guess what?
[00:45:22]  They're going to work to replace him with every penny and cent that they have.
[00:45:28]  No, I think that's going to be a very big discussion.
[00:45:30]  It's going to be a very big discussion.
[00:45:32]  Obviously, this year, Josh Shapiro, 5'3, is up for reelection.
[00:45:37]  With the platforms.
[00:45:41]  Yeah, with the platforms.
[00:45:42]  I don't know if he has the Bruno Mogli's, but with that situation, he's seen as popular in Pennsylvania, and people need to understand that.
[00:45:56]  John Fetterman is as well, but where John Fetterman is unpopular is within.
[00:46:00]  His own party and is high, high risk of being prime.
[00:46:05]  Funny enough, Josh Shapiro does have a primary problem as well, but it's at the national stage.
[00:46:12]  That's where Josh Shapiro is going to face a lot of trouble because everybody knows he wants to run for president and he just looks at the Harrisburg as a stepping stone to the presidency.
[00:46:19]  But the problem is, is that the Democrat, because Israel has become so anathema to Democrats right now, that Joshua is going to have a huge problem there.
[00:46:30]  Yeah, and it's not just for 28, right?
[00:46:31]  Like you said, in 2026, I think you're going to see outside dark money.
[00:46:36]  Being spent against Shapiro by the radical anti Jewish, you know, just Democrats.
[00:46:42]  I mean, the radical activists, the radical donors, they're not going to let a Jewish man get anywhere near the nomination.
[00:46:47]  And that means they're going to try to bloody him up this year in his gubernatorial race to try to stop him from springboarding into 2028.
[00:46:55]  Expect outside money to come into this governor's race against Shapiro.
[00:47:01]  It's all tied.
[00:47:02]  Cliff Maloney, work for people of value, brother.
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[00:47:08]  Appreciate you, Posto.
[00:47:10]  Check them out folks.
[00:47:10]  See you soon, Cliff.
[00:47:11]  Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.