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Jan. 21, 2026 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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Live From Davos: Operation Greenland Has Begun

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The Fourth Turning Meets Fifth Generation Warfare 00:10:44
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Christ is king.
We're cracking down on more than $19 billion in fraud that was stolen by Somalian bandits.
Can you believe that Somalia, they turned out to be higher IQ than we thought?
I always say these are low IQ people.
How did they go into Minnesota and steal all that money?
Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way.
They should be grateful also, but they're not.
I watched your Prime Minister yesterday.
He wasn't so grateful.
Canada lives because of the United States.
Remember that, Mark, the next time you make your statements?
Certain places in Europe are not even recognizable, frankly, anymore.
They're not recognizable.
And we can argue about it, but there's no argument.
And I love Europe, and I want to see Europe go good, but it's not heading in the right direction.
The United States avoided the catastrophic energy collapse which befell every European nation that pursued the Green News scam.
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We never asked for anything, and we never got anything.
We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force where we would be, frankly, unstoppable.
But I won't do that.
Okay, now everyone's saying, oh, good.
That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought I would use force.
I don't have to use force.
I don't want to use force.
I won't use force.
All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland where we already had it as a trustee, but respectfully returned it back to Denmark not long ago after we defeated the Germans, the Japanese, the Italians, and others in World War II.
We gave it back to them.
So we want a piece of ice for world protection and they won't give it.
We've never asked for anything else and we could have kept that piece of land and we didn't.
So they have a choice.
You can say yes and we will be very appreciative or you can say no and we will remember.
All right folks, Jack Pasilvic, we're here at Davos, World Economic Forum.
President Trump just got done speaking right behind us here.
You can see the stage is now being set for Millais, who's going to be speaking later.
President spoke really forcefully about Greenland making the case for the sale based on national security, missile defense, strategic missile defense.
Point being that those ICBMs, if fired from the Eastern Hemisphere, those powers, Iran, Russia, China, if fired at Washington, D.C., would fly almost directly over the territory of Greenland.
Also, bringing up the military history of Greenland, pointing out that it was the United States that defended militarily, defended Greenland after Denmark fell to the Nazis in World War II, provided so much for the military defense of Greenland during that year, during that time.
Also, a huge point that he made, coming out strong nuclear, coming out for further development of oil and natural gas in the North Sea.
But it wasn't long, but he made a strategic reference and a strategic statement that the West cannot accept people from cultures, foreign cultures that have never created successful countries of their own.
He specifically mentioned the Somalians in Minneapolis, and of course, making a reference to the mass migration crisis here in Europe throughout this continent and the remigration that he has endorsed in the past.
Jack Posobiec here, the World Economic Forum, Davos, Switzerland.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
We are here live in Davos, Switzerland, inside, and as you can see right behind me, the World Economic Forum.
Yes, we are here with the globalists.
But do not worry, folks, because I did not eat Zibugs.
I did not live in Zipad.
I did not sleep in Zipod.
No, no.
In fact, I brought my own food.
I've been here the entire time.
President Trump still in the building.
And we are told, by the way, that in moments, he may actually be transiting right over here.
And if that happens, he's going to walk by.
We're going to grab the camera.
We're going to go over and see if we can say hi to him or go at least let you guys see what it's like here.
It's been an absolute madhouse, historic speech by President Trump throwing down.
Operation Greenland has begun and it's begun right here in Davos, Switzerland, in the headquarters of the World Economic Forum.
Larry Fink of BlackRock is here, introduced President Trump earlier today.
Gavin Newsom has been running around and I had the opportunity to ask him a question.
We're going to play that for you in a little bit here.
But really, the main thing for everyone: the United States is back on the world stage.
The United States with President Trump, not just taking a supporting role, not just taking a side role, a tertiary role, background character, an extra, if you will.
No, the United States is taking the lead role.
The leader of the free world is in the building.
We are at the World Economic Forum, Human Events Daily, bringing you into the belly of the beast.
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All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we're here live, Davos, Switzerland, Human Events Daily.
I want to say a huge thank you to the entire Real America's Voice team.
You've got absolute patriot warriors that are here on the ground.
Mason and Luke, these guys have been banging and clanging, going all the way up and down the Alps to do all of these live shots, all of these shows.
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Also, I want to say thank you to Parker, the Real America's Voice team, for giving us the support to be here and to be able to actually film and do our show live in Davos, Switzerland.
Of course, for those who recall, this is not the first time we have done human events daily in Switzerland, although it is hopefully the first time that we're going to be doing this show without being detained in the middle of the show, which is what happened when we were here four years ago.
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Okay, folks, just to give you a little bit of the traffic schedule here.
So President Trump, if you understand where I'm standing, this is the World Economic Forum.
This is the atrium.
This is right here where the annual meeting is held.
Congress Hall, so where President Trump spoke, is right over here to my left.
And President Trump, where he's holding those bilateral meetings, is just down the hallway over here.
So you've seen a number of the meetings.
He's conducting them right now.
I believe he's in a NATO meeting.
He, of course, met with the head of Switzerland.
He met with El Cisi of Egypt.
Just before the show began, Chancellor Mertz of Germany just walked by.
He was kind of holding court.
Gavin Newsom has been running around.
President Trump is expected to come around this corner here any minute now.
And so we've got a secondary camera that's set up over there.
We'll go live to that when it happens to see if he is taking questions, to see if he's addressing anyone.
Global Summit Pushbacks 00:15:33
But as that is coming forward, I wanted to bring on for some commentary, our good friend here on the podcast on Human Events Daily, Arin McIntyre of the Blaze and the Arin McIntyre show.
My friend, how are you?
Doing well.
Thanks for having me.
So, Arin, one of my favorite things, and I think some of your work can be really, really helpful here, is so President Trump comes in and he just looks at Greenland on the map and says, I want to buy that.
And it's so incredible because this is sort of like the old version of statecraft.
You know, we're talking Monroe Doctrine, Donroe Doctrine.
It's almost an 18th, 19th century type of statecraft.
But here at the World Economic Forum, the Danes refused to even come.
The Ursula von der Leyen, so many people, Mark Carney, by the way, attacked Trump and then refused to even be in the building, in the room.
He flew back to Canada before Trump even spoke.
It drove them absolutely nuts because he's not playing with their system.
He's not going along with their world order.
And by the way, Mark Carney of Canada actually admitted, keep in mind, this is the former chief, ran the chief bank, Central Bank of Canada and the Central Bank of England, as well as being the UN Climate Dzar, which he tries to doesn't try to remind people.
He said he actually admitted that there was a world order.
And he says, but that order is passed because of Trump and the rise of autocracies.
And I'm like, I'm going to go.
I said, Mark, what did you just say about this world order that apparently we were all members of, but we were told it was a conspiracy theory to even bring it up?
Arn, I love if you can just break down this total mismatch here.
Yeah, we love to hear about the rules-based international order or these different global governance initiatives.
But what could any of those words be other than a synonym for a new world order, for a global government?
That's exactly what the guys at WEF and many of these other organizations think that they are ultimately creating.
And for a long time, American presidents fell in line with that understanding, in many cases believing that they were actually at the head of this thing.
But ultimately, we know that these organizations are going to take on lives of their own and drive their own interests.
And so it's become very passe for world leaders to acknowledge that their nations do have specific interests and that they're acting in those interests.
Now, of course, China, Russia, these other countries, they don't care.
Yes, they'll play the game.
They'll use the different language, but they're fighting for their own interests.
They're looking to capture natural resources.
They want to increase their military presence and their influence.
And all of these European nations are just playing along with that because it allows them to avoid having their own military or taking any real risks with what they're doing.
But ultimately, Donald Trump realizes that this will lose America's sovereignty.
So he's pushing back against this and this disrupts everything that they believe.
He's willing to take nationalist economic policies, willing to say, yes, I am specifically tariffing other countries because I want what's best for us.
Yes, I am willing to negotiate and push for expansions in territory because I think they will economically benefit us.
And I think if we don't do it, other great powers will.
Now, you might have differences of opinion on any given action, but this is a stance that is decidedly pro-American in a way that we have not seen in a very long time.
I think it's very refreshing for Americans to see that kind of leadership.
It also is very off-putting and in many cases, terrifying to the global world order because they recognize that without the United States playing along, they lose a lot of legitimacy.
Well, they clearly do.
And ultimately, it's always the United States that has to foot most of the bill for all of these organizations, the United Nations, for NATO, for many World Economic Forum programs.
It's all coming from U.S. dollars.
And President Trump comes in realizing that he actually does have the leverage here, not them.
Actually, one funny aside is that when Trump was on stage, he said something about, oh, I'm going to be meeting Zelensky later today.
Apparently, one of the things that I'm hearing is that Zelensky wasn't in Switzerland, wasn't even in the country, wasn't even planning to come, and then hears Trump's speech and realizes he has to hop a plane and now come or else he's going to be snubbing the president of the United States.
It's so refreshing to see an American leader actually use America's leverage and to do so in ways that benefit the United States of America.
But I suppose, Arn, the question I have then is, for so many of these examples, you look at the Venezuela raid, you look at Greenland, the Panama Canal talk, changing of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
I mean, isn't everything that Trump is doing breaking international law?
Doesn't this mean that he could run the risk of being arrested by the world international police?
Yeah, that is an absolutely adorable storyline that we hear over and over again.
But of course, it's an absolute fantasy.
There is no such thing as international law.
That's not how sovereignty works.
And that's not how laws work.
Laws only mean something if they enforce by a sovereign power.
There must be a power behind that law capable of enforcing that law.
And without that, the law means absolutely nothing.
So an international law would require an international body to enforce it.
Other words, it would require a one world government, a multinational government that would reach in and somehow punish Donald Trump for what he's doing.
But of course, that does not exist at all.
Well, that doesn't mean that Donald Trump should just go around making bad decisions or just being abusive for the heck of it.
But I think what Donald Trump is revealing to the world is that ultimately this idea that they are somehow participatory in the understanding of America's interests is being discarded.
America decides America's interests.
You can't cage that.
And if you want to fight back against that, you need to have some kind of substantive power.
It's been adorable to watch different countries deploy, you know, five, 10, 15 troops to Greenland and then talk about how they're going to fire first on American soldiers if we decide to invade.
The truth is that NATO is a complete joke without the United States.
It only exists because of the United States.
And the chance that they could repel the United States if it attempted to use force at any moment is an absolute, you know, just hysterical lie.
But they need to believe this.
They need to look tough.
They can't be honest that they've basically turned over their sovereignty to these organizations at the end of the day because their people still want to believe that they're somehow sovereign nations.
The difference is that the United States has the ability to be a real sovereign nation because we have the power, we have the authority, we can enforce our own rules.
Now, we haven't been acting like a sovereign nation for a very long time.
And as much as Trump has been pushing back, there are still ways in which our sovereignty is impeded.
So I'm glad to see him making those bold statements, but I also would like to see him continue to push to end these global commitments.
We don't need these people.
They need us.
Trump is aware of that, which is very important.
That puts him in a great bargaining position.
But at the end of the day, we're not going to have Trump forever.
And I would like to see him start to wind down some of these relationships so that in the future, America is not committed to this absolute charade of global governance.
That's exactly right.
And, you know, perhaps you are starting to see, you know, different things pop up.
This, the Board of Peace supposedly is going to be having this signing tomorrow regarding Gaza.
We're also hearing that Belarus is coming in.
So looking forward, probably the way I read that is that that's looking forward to an end of the Ukraine war situation.
They'll want to bring in some of the local, the Central, Eastern European nations to talk about that that have those relationships with Russia.
And you also saw Alexander Stubb, the president of Finland, came out yesterday, right, right here on the stage behind me and said, well, we don't need NATO and Europe can defend itself even without them.
To which I replied on Twitter, it's going pretty viral.
But I said, great, absolutely.
Have at it, Finland.
Have at it.
You guys are more than welcome to do so.
We're going to go deal with the Somali invasion in Minneapolis.
We're going to go deal with all the stuff that's happening in our country.
You guys got it.
I love that.
Please go right ahead.
And I think you're going to see so many more people latch on to that.
And I agree with you that these commitments do need to be looked at.
Look, I remember President Trump all the way back in 2016.
This was one of the very first reasons that the deep state, the permanent state, really targeted Trump because he was questioning why do we still have NATO, even all these years after the fall of the Soviet Union?
Arn McIntyre on with Jack Basovic.
We're live, Davos, Switzerland, Human Events Daily.
Stay tuned.
Be right back.
President Trump coming out soon.
You talk about influencers.
These are influencers.
And they're friends of mine, Jack Brisovic.
Where's Jack?
Jack?
He's done a great job.
All right, Jack Rosobiec.
We're back live here on the ground, Davos, Switzerland World Economic Forum, as you can see behind me.
And yes, to be clear, I have not eaten Zbugs, not even that we had some comments in during the break.
They said, did you eat any crickets?
No, I have not eaten any of the crickets.
I do want to ask, you know, folks in check, if I have just one, does that count?
You know, or if I just try it.
What if it's just a leg?
If it's chocolate covered, I don't know.
Arn, I wanted to ask you as well.
And, you know, we're talking about these differences between sovereignty.
We also see the federal sovereignty in the United States being challenged by mayors and governors.
And same situation.
They just don't have the power to be able to fight back.
President Trump, by the way, and actually, maybe I should even ask you this question.
Aren, President Trump made a very strong statement about the Somali community in the United States, but I think he reading between the lines, he was definitely applying it to Europe as well, saying, look, guys, we are the inheritors of Western civilization.
And if we don't defend Western civilization, then we will lose it.
And he made this statement that the West cannot bring in in mass numbers foreigners from foreign cultures who he did not use the word compatible, but he said cultures from countries that have completely failed on their own, not successful.
He's really making those civilizational type arguments.
Now, I don't personally think that he's going to find a lot of purchase with that comment here in this room outside of maybe the president of Poland, Novrodsky, who was here.
But writ large, we are starting to see this in Europe as the rise of many of the right-wing parties is really predicated on this issue of re-migration.
Yeah, we've already seen Germany have to basically try to ban the AFD there.
We've seen in the UK the attempts to censor speech that is trying to address the immigration issue.
And President Trump is exactly right to highlight that what's going on in Minnesota right now is simply a microcosm of the larger issue that is attacking the West in its entirety.
People not being willing to address the fact that people from different cultures, from incompatible cultures, cultures that absolutely are a failure by our standards, they simply cannot move here and then magically become part of our civilization.
I think it's very obvious to many people now that that's the case.
It's a growing sentiment across the West, even in these European nations that denied it for so long, and action has to be taken.
The absolute magnitude of the different populist movements that have forced their way through these different European countries in spite of their leadership just shows you how desperately people want a return to sanity when it comes to immigration.
Most people are okay with some level of immigration, but they want it to be people who already are very compatible, who are going to go ahead and contribute to their nation.
They don't want people who are going to come in immediately try to change it or become in a financial drain on it, be violent, all of these things become clannish, tribal, all of this stuff.
We see this pattern repeating over and over again.
Europe has gone through a different type of socialization.
They have created societies where identity is very different than it is in these classic tribal societies in the Middle East or North Africa.
And the same is true in the United States.
We carry that identity over.
So when you import a bunch of people who never went through this process, who never shared those ideas, who never had that heritage or that tradition, they simply cannot do it.
They will not compete based on merit.
They will not conform to the understandings of the society they're now in.
They will continue their tribal and clannish behavior in which they defend and are basically completely ethnocentric inside their own ghettos, their own ethnic ghettos.
We're all tired of this.
And of course, this is not, like you said, not going to receive any big applause from world leaders because they're all on board with this project.
But Trump is done.
And we're very excited in the United States to see what's happening in Minnesota.
The fact the administration is not backing down despite the less terrorism, the media's attempt to spin things and put out propaganda.
They continue their deportations.
They are not backing down.
In fact, we're even getting, I don't know if this has been confirmed yet, but we're seeing possible reports that even military MP units might be deployed into Minnesota.
So they're continuing to increase the law enforcement presence, not decrease it.
And I'm very, very glad that Trump is making that a issue that all European leaders have to deal with because again, their populations do not want this.
This is something that is engineered top down in these type of global summits, not something that the people of Europe or the United States are asking for.
That's exactly right.
And the fact of the matter is that, look, you know, I've been doing this, talking about these issues for a decade at this point.
One of the very first international documentaries I did was up in, we called it the Rape of Sweden, you know, just north of where I am now.
And we went into Malmo, Sweden, and we were talking about all of these issues.
And back then, it was considered a conspiracy theory.
It was hate speech.
Our documentary, of course, was banned on YouTube and everywhere else.
Now we've come so far that the president of the United States within the well of the World Economic Forum is talking about these very issues.
It's been quite a journey.
It's on this issue, I really have to say.
Yeah, it's one of those scenarios where just a few years ago, it was entirely believable that you would be banned from social media.
You would lose platforms.
You would be persona non grata inside the Republican Party.
And Donald Trump has changed that wildly.
He has embraced the arguments of guys like Pat Buchanan and Paul Gottfried and all of these other paleo-conservatives who saw what was coming, guys like Sam Francis.
He recognizes the same problem that they recognize, and he has the same base of support.
Ultimately, this is civilizational suicide.
Anyone who's looking around at the world and what is happening can obviously see that.
And I'm very glad that the administration is recognizing that and doing everything they can to push back.
We've already seen illegal immigration basically entirely shut down in the United States.
That in itself is a miracle.
We were told they had to pass all these bills and do all this crazy stuff to make that happen.
It turns out if you just give the president a free hand and some funding for ICE, he was able to solve that problem almost immediately.
We're also hearing that the administration is expecting to cut legal immigration as much as 50% by the end of his term.
I know for some people, that's not as much as they wanted, but you have to understand where we came from.
Public Conversation Revived 00:04:34
Like you said, people like us have been talking about this for a very long time.
In many cases, it got us completely removed from the public conversation.
Now it is the public conversation.
And the reason is very simple.
Donald Trump has been successful on this issue.
Exactly right.
Arin, I know you got to run.
We're here.
Davos, where can people go to access your podcast and everything that you're putting out?
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for having me.
Of course, I'm on Blaze TV, the Orin McIntyre show there.
I'm also on YouTube and Rumble.
And then, of course, all your favorite podcast platforms, Spotify, Apple, all of that stuff, the Orin McIntyre show.
Check him out, folks.
Aaron McIntyre.
He's put so many of these ideas out into the ether.
He is so eloquent.
The way he describes them is so clear.
Definitely someone that you absolutely want to follow.
You may have seen one or two of his tweets regarding tapping a sign here and there.
Jack Posovic live, Davos, Switzerland, the World Economic Forum.
And thank you again to Real America's voice.
We'll be right back.
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting public issues.
All right, folks, Jack Poseobic back.
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All right, folks, we're waiting for President Trump.
I'm going to take a look back again here.
He's not yet come.
I see people, you know, waiting.
He's weaving in there.
Whatever meeting he's in, he's doing the weave.
He's definitely doing the weave.
I'm told that he's meeting with the NATO Secretary General right now.
So we'll see what comes out of that.
But I wanted to bring in Will Chamberlain here from the Article 3 project.
Will, how are you?
Doing great, Jack.
So, well, I've got to play some footage for you that I recorded just a couple hours ago.
Myself, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.
It's a remarkable success.
Governor Newsom really.
Isaac, it's funny, dude.
I'm not remembering.
I'm Frenzy Charlie.
I was friends with, obviously, because you know.
I always appreciate your interview.
Subpoenas And Cooperation 00:07:38
Quick question.
You mentioned Minneapolis.
Any comment on this Don Lemon charging those guys into the church like that?
I literally.
It's funny.
Someone mentioned Don Lemon and Trump the other day, and so I have no idea what that's about.
Big viral story.
He had a bunch of agitators.
They ran into some kind of church.
Don Lemon.
Don Lemon.
Into a church?
Yes.
Even focus on this.
No, it's not even at this focus.
Literally, don't know anything about it.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thanks, Price.
So that was the interview and the question that we had there.
His security, kept it polite, kept it respectable.
Will, I got to ask you, though, does his answer pass the smell test with you?
Because a lot of people are saying it doesn't pass it for them.
How does he not know about that?
It's dominated the news cycle.
He's the governor of a major state.
I mean, maybe he's tired and jet lagged being in Davos.
Like, I don't know why I'm trying to be charitable, but that's weird.
It's weird that he doesn't heard about like the primary news story of the last three to four days, mass DOJ investigation, Pamponi going out there.
I mean, this is a guy who's nominally on top of current affairs as a governor and he hasn't heard about it.
That's a little weird.
Well, and he was talking about, so you can't see in the video that he was conducting a gaggle for about 30 minutes after Trump spoke, and he brought up a Somalians.
He was asked about it.
He talked about Minneapolis a number of times because he was responding to different things in President Trump's speech.
So it strikes me as odd that we'd have the Attorney General going to Minneapolis yesterday, putting out these subpoenas, you know, the story dominating the news cycle and yet not heard of it.
So, you know, okay, interesting, very interesting.
Will, I do want to ask you, though, about that regarding regarding Pamboni, the Attorney General, these subpoenas.
Look, you and I, look, we talked about legal liability from for, you know, just we began, remember, this all started with Becca Good and asking whether or not she had legal liability.
And then you and I had offline and then spilled online a long conversation about other people who face legal liability and really just obstruction of justice.
Now we're talking FACE Act, we're talking obstruction of civil liberties.
Will, do you, have you been able to hear an Article III project?
Are you tracking at all regarding the subpoenas, regarding this investigation?
It's obviously very high profile and it does seem to be moving very quickly.
Yeah, I mean, they're moving really rapidly on this stuff.
I mean, we have, you know, subpoenas are getting delivered.
Basically what they're trying to do, they're trying to uncover evidence of underlying conspiring and aiding and abetting these organizations by the state authorities.
You know, and that's what when the left tells you, it's like, oh, there's these statements they've made in public.
Well, they're not a crime.
You're allowed to oppose ICE.
It's like, yeah, but some of these statements at least provide probable cause to investigate further about whether they've explicitly coordinated.
You know, there was that one statement that Jacob Fry made about how people are asking him to, you know, use the National Guard or have the National Guard oppose or Minneapolis police go out and oppose federal law enforcement.
Like, who is he talking to exactly?
So these people have to answer for their conduct here.
And, you know, if they haven't been coordinating with these agitators, then fine.
But they, you know, these subpoenas are absolutely justified given the bizarre way in which both Fry and Waltz have decided to completely abdicate any kind of cooperation with federal law enforcement and seem to be on the side of the people who are obstructing it.
Yeah, it's very strange to me because, you know, so we were just talking with Arn McIntyre the previous segment how President Trump is here.
He's exercising that American sovereignty on the world stage.
But at the same time, within the United States, the federal government has federal sovereignty over federal law.
States do not have any power over federal law, any say whatsoever.
It's the supremacy clause.
Cities certainly don't.
Yet, Will, it seems that these mayors and governors seem to think that they can just take the law into their own hands.
Yeah, it's strange.
I think what's happening is that their default strategy is losing.
So the default strategy for dealing with federal authority you don't like and federal law enforcement you don't like is to refuse to cooperate, right?
And there's plenty of federal law explaining, constitutional law rather, explaining that states don't have to cooperate with federal authorities in enforcing federal law as a general principle, right?
They don't have to use their resources to do it because it's all about, there's a whole doctrine called commandeering, right?
The federal government's not allowed to commandeer state governments.
It's part of respect for their sovereignty.
But we passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which means that ICE has infinite law enforcement resources.
So if local and state authorities won't cooperate with ICE, that's fine.
We'll just send in thousands of people to your metro area and enforce federal law.
And so if you want to stop that and you try and do so, then you're violating the law.
Then you're obstructing.
So I think this is sort of this new interesting test case where for years, because we didn't have anything like the One Big Beautiful Bill and this massive amount of funding and resources behind ICE, they were very, very reliant on the cooperation of state and local authorities.
Now they're not.
Like they would prefer it.
It would make their lives easier.
But if a state or local authority refuses to cooperate, that's fine.
They'll just send in thousands of people to enforce federal law.
So I think that the left is now reacting that very blindly and might well be making some mistakes that verge into criminality.
Well, and that would just be just totally unprecedented.
But that being said, for at least federal governments to go after, but it certainly wouldn't be the first time in U.S. history that we've seen this.
Will, I did want to ask you, though, the reason that I brought that up in relation to Gavin Newsom is: look, we all know that even though there are targeted communities in different parts of the country like Minneapolis, where we have these issues with the legals, we all know that the number one state in terms of being a flagrant offender of illegal immigration, as well as not working with the federal government, is, of course, Gavin Newsom's California.
Do you think, and I'll just say, I highly suspect that it could very well be that a place like Los Angeles could be the next area where we see a deployment like this.
I could see it being Los Angeles.
I could also see being Philadelphia, given how much Larry Krasner seems to really want a fight with federal leadership.
Please, God, please.
Please, God, please.
And by the way, every time I have anyone from DHS on here, I say, I say, don't forget Philadelphia.
Remember, it's America's 250th.
We have to clean up America's first place by America's 250th.
So we got only a couple more months till July.
That's right.
I think Minneapolis will prove to be the right place, like a sort of good test case.
Minneapolis is smaller than Philadelphia or smaller than certainly a lot smaller than Los Angeles County.
So I think it's more manageable.
It's a good place to sort of try out, you know, figure out what kind of personnel you need, what kind of resources you need if you're going to do this on your own, how exactly you're going to deal with uncooperative authorities.
You know, because for so long, even in the first Trump administration, I think that if authorities, local authorities weren't cooperating, there wasn't a lot of deportations happening because they just didn't have the resources.
There wasn't.
And coming up on a corporate break.
Will, and interesting you bring up Pennsylvania because, of course, Josh Shapiro, another potential 2028 nominee, governor of Pennsylvania, but also Pennsylvania has a Republican attorney general who won in 2024, Dave Sunday, in his own right.
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So interesting to see what kind of cooperation we'll see there should Philadelphia be the answer.
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Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
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And we're going to turn it around and make our country by the gift.
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All right, folks, as we've been working on the show here and as we've been live, President Trump, this is probably why he hasn't walked out yet.
He has just announced via Truth Social, based on a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Ruta, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and, in fact, the entire Arctic region.
The solution, if consummated, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations.
Based on this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go in effect on February 1st.
Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland.
Further information will be available as discussions progress.
Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Markov Rubio, Special Envoy Steve Wickoff, and various others, as needed, will be responsible for the negotiations.
They'll report directly to me.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Will Chamberlain?
I want to get you on here because, you know, it's very interesting to me that, you know, we finally have a president of the United States who is just saying, you know what?
Screw the neoliberal world order.
We're just going to do stuff because you can just do things.
Yeah.
I mean, that's actually Carney had an interesting speech on that effect where he's like the sort of everybody understands now that the rules-based international order was fake, wasn't real.
And that Carney himself was tired of paying lip service to it.
I don't know that Carney's solution to this problem of buddy getting buddy-buddy with China was a particularly smart one.
If he understands real politics, he should understand that there's no world in which Canada gets to be, you know, an ally of the Chinese government with that type of massive border of the United States.
That's just not a thing that's going to work for us.
And we're not going to tolerate it.
But his point about the rules-based international order being kind of over is true.
I saw a very interesting take on this today, which is, you know, the whole neoliberal order was based on the need to like justify your conduct internationally.
And so it's like the idea is the United States always needs to justify anything it does.
And there are justifications for Greenland, but part of the point of what Trump's doing is saying, no, like this is this is a great power world.
We don't need to sit here and just, we're just going to do it.
We'll justify it later.
We know what we know we want Greenland.
We know what's important to our national security.
The end.
We want Greenland.
And I think it's good.
I think it's, I mean, the Danes' claim on Greenland is sort of ridiculous when you think about it.
I mean, it's Denmark is in a tiny country, very far away from Greenland.
We're closer to it, I think.
And, you know, they're not able to defend it.
They're a tiny country with what, like 10 million people.
Well, Greenland should be able to do that.
And only that, by the way, not only that, President Trump made the point.
I mean, I'm just going to say, folks, if you've been listening to Human Events Daily for the past year, when we've talked about Greenland, you're going to recognize a lot of the things that President Trump said.
He brought up the World War II history, where it was the United States that militarily defended Greenland against the Germans when Denmark itself had fallen to the Wehrmacht, had fallen to Nazi Germany.
And it was the U.S. that kept German U-boats, kept Germans from landing there, was able to continue to lend lease and then the airbridge to the UK through Greenland.
That was the United States that did that.
That was not Denmark.
He also brought up the fact that MapBreak, Greenland is, of course, on the tectonic plate of North America.
It is part of the North American continent.
It is not part of Europe, even geographically.
So he's just bringing up so many good arguments.
But really, ultimately, the history-based argument I find very strong, especially the World War II claim, but then gave it back.
He said they were stupid to do so.
But really, I think the strongest argument was the Golden Dome and the idea that any ballistic missile defense of the United States regarding Washington, D.C., if it's going to go over the North Pole, and if you want sophisticated air defense, you're going to want to put it in Greenland.
I mean, Will, that's a serious point he's making, and it's completely nonpartisan.
Yeah, and there's another point he made, I think, yesterday, which was about what the United Kingdom decided to do with the Chagos Archipelago, where Diego Garcia is.
We have an extremely important military base.
Oh, don't even get me started on that.
Don't even get me started on that.
It's atrocious what they're doing.
It's atrocious what the United Kingdom is doing.
And the fact that the United Kingdom would do that would literally let a Chinese-engineered ICJ advisory ruling lead them to simply hand over that archipelago to Mauritius, which is a thousand miles away.
And nobody from Mauritius was ever on the Chagos Archipelago, but he just decided, oh, we'll just give it to them and then lease it back so the United States can keep their base there.
Like, what are you doing?
And the fact that the UK would do sort of silly stuff like this and let themselves be manipulated and the other European countries aren't like, hey, don't do that.
Don't mess with our ally that way.
Don't like jeopardize the security of their own military base in that fashion.
It's just kind of crazy.
So when we look at Denmark, you know, Denmark is just, you know, what if China manages to engineer another ruling that says, oh, you, Denmark's claim to Greenland is forfeit.
And then maybe who are we negotiating with?
Are we negotiating the Greenlanders?
Maybe the Greenlanders were bought out by the Chinese.
And they're like, no, you got to close all your military bases or something like that.
Like none of this is acceptable for the perspective of the United States national security.
And if the Europeans are going to be feckless allies, like the United Kingdom was with Diego Garcia, then we can't just rely on them to make, we can't just make an agreement with them and then put bases there.
Or at least if we do make an agreement, maybe there's now an agreement that we don't get sovereignty.
I don't know.
But I think that the best case scenario for the United States is we simply say, no, it's got to be ours.
It's got to be ours.
There can't be any more talk of you randomly handing over the, you know, selling the ground underneath our feet in Greenland to somebody else.
Like we need to own an extra.
No, it's very initial assurance.
And in fact, for anyone, if you actually sat down and read the entire New York Times interview, it was only released in print with President Trump.
Highlights came out.
But if you read through the entire thing in the Greenland section, they actually discuss, and President Trump is very familiar with this at one point, that part of the Cold War treaty that the United States signed with Denmark is that those bases, which have now been deactivated, could be reactivated unilaterally by the United States if they declare an emergency.
So President Trump could, under the terms of the current treaty that we have with Denmark, reactivate those Cold War bases.
By the way, Thule Air Base needs to be renamed, of course, but he could immediately start putting troops there right now and point to a direct treaty that we have with Denmark.
And there's nothing they could do about it.
Yeah.
And we need to keep the Chinese out of Greenland.
That's another thing, right?
Like in full.
There can't be no Chinese infrastructure projects, no Chinese working on the airports and the roads, none of that.
They need to be out of there.
That's like, this is our hemisphere.
China doesn't get to like do this stuff in our hemisphere, especially with something so important to our inner, you know, our mass geopolitical strategic outlook as Germany, as Greenland, sorry.
No, but to your point, you know, looking at looking at it from a military perspective as well, regardless of take the ICBM threat off the top of the table, but you've also got in World War I, World War II, when the Germans, when the Kriegsmarine wanted to come out from the Baltic Sea, wanted to cross to the North Sea, where did they have to go through?
Oh, they had to go through the GI UK gap.
This is the gap in the sea lanes right directly where they would have to come out to cross into the North Atlantic to conduct those campaigns, going up to Lusitania and others.
That's where the Germans would have to come through.
So if this is U.S. territory, then we can fortify the territory.
Then we can build it up.
Then we can strengthen it.
The same deal with the Russian army, the Chinese army, or anyone else who comes through.
Will, as you know, I could talk about this all day, and I'm sure you can as well.
Where can people go to follow you?
Find me on at WillChamberlin on X, and you can follow what the Article 3 project is doing at a3paction.com.
All right, folks, ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
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