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Conservative Student Murdered At Brown University, Far-Left Group Arrested In LA
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Speaking news in two horrific mass shootings, one on the campus of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, and another on Australia's iconic Bondi Beach.
In Sydney, Australia, this man is being hailed a hero for wrestling the gun away from one of the alleged attackers the Jewish community targeted on the first night of Hanukkah.
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Voice to say is December 15th, 2025, Anno Domini.
A violent weekend this weekend here in the United States as well as in other parts of Western civilization.
And yes, Australia is part of Western civilization.
So this Saturday, I had the honor, and I'd like to say thank you to the White House for allowing me to accompany President of the United States in the motorcade as the new media seat there covering the Army-Navy game, America's Game and Go Navy, because glad to see Navy pull out the win one point.
Then traveled up to New York City, gave this address at the New York Gala.
But little did we know that horrific violence would be going on throughout this entire time.
And the breaking news as of last night, the identity of the first victim of this shooting at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, Ella Cook, a sophomore, the vice president of the College of Republicans, one of the only conservative groups on campus.
There was a person of interest who was identified, was brought in and detained by police and law enforcement, but has now been released, and they're saying that the evidence is pointing in a different direction.
We need to find out what happened to Ella.
We need justice for Ella.
We need answers for Ella.
Ella's family will not have her home this Christmas.
She's a conservative.
Told she's a Catholic from Alabama.
Worked so hard to get into Brown University.
And a gunman shot her in the head and killed her at a time when we're seeing so much terrorism and so much political violence.
And this comes just three months, three months after the murder of Charlie Kirk.
So we need to know.
We need to know exactly what happened.
And we really need to know why it is that it's been so long and they don't have any pictures.
They don't have any images.
They have this one, you know, the guys in black walking around.
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What's going on?
What are we even doing here?
What are we even doing here?
So then, and we'll talk about this in the next segment, horrific terrorist attack that we woke up to Sunday morning out in Australia, this Hanukkah celebration on the beach, something that's been done a lot.
Remember Australia, okay, it's the different seasons, the opposite seasons land down under, so they're on the beach having this celebration and are shot up by migrants.
Shot up by migrants from the Middle East yet again.
When is the West going to wake up and understand that these third world migrants are not interested in assimilation?
They are interested in murder.
They are interested in looting.
They are destroying.
They are destroying our countries either through their economic drain on our countries or on the literal drain of blood.
The drain of blood that like a sieve that is dripping from Western civilization caused by these migrants.
Yeah, I said what I said.
And as President Trump said, they're poisoning our civilization.
Then, then we have this group out in Los Angeles.
And Andy Noe is going to be joining us in a little bit.
We'll talk about them as well.
The Turtle Island Liberation Front, a far-left group that was planning bombings.
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Will, how are you today?
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Yeah, I appreciate it, brother.
So, Will, we woke up this morning, or excuse me, yesterday morning to this horrific attack out in Australia.
What do we know about the attack and specifically the attackers in this case?
The attackers are a father and son of Pakistani origin, Pakistani immigrants to Australia.
The son was apparently a devoted student at one of the local mosques.
There's pictures of him in front of Islamic texts with the Imam talking about what a good student he was.
And they just decided to go on an all-out rampage at a Hanukkah celebration on the beach with just, you know, the Australian Jewish community is not big.
It's only 50,000, some strong.
So, you know, 100, I mean, they were just attacked.
I mean, I think 10 victims, including a 10-year-old little girl, was killed.
A fairly prominent social media person, Arsenal Strofsky, was shot in the head, survived, but I think the bullet grazed him.
And it's, you know, yet another example of, I think, lone, kind of, I think, fair to say, lone wolf Islamist terror that is all over the world.
It's in the United States.
It's in England.
I mean, just in October, we had a guy named Jihad decide to attack a synagogue in Manchester.
And, you know, we had the National Guardsman shooting.
It feels like, you know, it's forever ago.
It's like three weeks ago.
We had two National Guards Guardsmen shot in D.C. by an Islamist.
This is just a problem around the world.
And it's really about time for the West to make a decision that we want less of this.
We don't want any more lone wolf Islamist terror.
And we're going to structure our immigration policies to minimize it as much as possible.
Yeah, in fact, I remember seeing just Anecdotally, having used you know, using Twitter way too much, I definitely remember having seen Arsen Ovstrovsky just on Twitter in the past.
Like, oh, yeah, that guy, like, what do you mean he was there?
I mean, I don't know if it was targeted towards him or something like that, but that's definitely a name that I recognized from social media.
And I was really shocked that someone who I have seen, I don't know that we've interacted or anything like that, but definitely someone I've seen out there for sure.
And Will, when we look at these cases, so you mentioned there are two Pakistanis, they were migrants to Australia.
We keep hearing as a response to this that the Australian government is going to enact tighter gun bans, that it's guns that are causing the problem, just like they had the gun ban in 1996 after the Port Arthur massacre, and they've turned over hundreds of thousands of guns and put over registrations on guns in Australia.
But unfortunately, it seems that, and this is a strange, a very strange, I suppose, metric or a very strange thing for dynamic, for liberals to understand, but actually, guns don't cause murder.
People cause murder, as it turns out.
And in this case, we know that these migrants from specific parts of the world, from the Muslim world, just going to say it, and third world in general, are far more violent than the general population.
And oh, by the way, we can actually stop 100% of this violence by not letting them in in the first place.
It's an incredible thing, isn't it?
Yeah, it would be remarkable.
I mean, and okay, you know, Australia has incredibly strict gun control.
What did that mean?
Well, it meant that a guy with a bolt-action rifle was able to just stand there and shoot people for like 20 minutes or something, some ridiculous amount of time.
Whereas in America, I mean, if there was anybody who was armed, that would have lasted seconds.
You know, somebody would have pulled out their gun and gone after him.
The odds that it would continue like that and just in public, almost trivial.
And so what do you expect?
Are you going to, you're going to get rid of every hunting rifle?
Because that's what the guy was using.
He was using like a very, very slow hunting rifle.
But the fact that nobody else was there with a gun to stop him and he could just pick up, you know, shoot away.
Guns are not the problem here.
The problem is having people who don't fit in a high trust society, people who want to use violence against, I mean, violence against Jews.
Like, I remember there's some leftist accounts who are talking about this as quote-unquote imperial blowback.
I'm sorry, what?
As like some 10-year-old Australian Jewish girl living in Sydney, one of the pillars of empire?
No, it's just there's like you admit third world Muslims into your country.
You're going to get some amount of Islamic terrorism.
Most of it will be, a large chunk of it will target Jews.
So maybe we just don't need this.
You know, Christians and Jews have been partners in the project of Western civilization for hundreds of years.
We live together in peace.
We foster and live together in high trust, high human capital societies.
What do we need this for?
I'm sorry.
I asked the question kind of cynically yesterday, and I think I thrilled Indian Twitter by saying it.
But I'm sorry, what import has Pakistan brought to the world other than terrorism?
Do you own anything that's made in Pakistan?
Other than maybe like very cheap textiles?
Very cheap textiles.
And what's crazy is that if you actually, statistically speaking, if you look across the Western world, the United States, Canada, Europe, Australia, Australia actually has the highest rate of immigration in the entire West.
Their foreign-born population is now higher than 30%.
One in three, one in three of their population, because Australia is a very small population to begin with.
That's why 2025.
Right, right, right.
You have those European.
That's like one city in China.
You have the amount of people who are, you know, obviously descendants of Europeans.
You have the Aborigines and now this massive influx of migrants to the, if you look just, you know, pound for pound, relatively speaking, the highest immigration rate in the entire West.
They are importing people hand over fist, and there's no vetting.
There's no sense of trying to figure out who they're bringing in.
They're letting anyone in they want.
And it seems as though they're not actually letting the people of Australia have a say in this one way or the other.
Yeah, I can't imagine the people of Australia are thrilled about effectively being replaced.
I mean, what do you call that other than replacement if 30% of your population is foreign-born?
I mean, it doesn't take much.
If you get up to 51% of the population being foreign-born, then it's a foreign-born majority that gets to dictate to the native minority how things work if they so choose.
A remarkable set of circumstances.
And I just, you know, it really puts in a question, like, what are our relationships going to be like with Australia going forward?
Well, and to that point, I was going to point this out because I gave this speech in New York over the weekend and pretty much all of it was directed at Zoro Mamdani, having no idea that this was going to happen the very next morning.
And while I was talking about this, one of the things that occurred to me is that with his election, it's not necessarily that the foreign-born population needs to encompass your population, which people are saying, oh, well, it's still under 50%, but it doesn't matter because once you have a voting block that's 30%, this can become an extremely powerful voting block.
And you can be the kingmaker.
You have to negotiate with them.
I mean, this is so sizable that it completely transforms your situation when it gets to probably like just 10%.
Yeah, it absolutely does.
I mean, I was actually just having a debate on Saudi television about this with some British leftists who was saying, oh, immigrants have no power.
They're a minority of your populations.
They can't.
They keep inviting me on this, but I haven't actually done it yet.
What's up?
Oh, they keep inviting me on too.
I haven't taken them up yet.
It was kind of fun.
I mean, it took an hour.
It's time consuming, but it was a good debate.
And what this guy was trying to argue is just, oh, we don't have any power at all.
So it's all your fault.
And it's all your fault if things are going badly.
And it's like, these are parliamentary systems.
You know, if you have a 10% block one way or the other, they're going to have real influence in any government in a society that's evenly divided among the native population.
They're going to be able to make really serious policy demands and get them satisfied.
And that doesn't have to be the case.
And the more people you admit, the more political sway and power that they'll have.
So, I mean, it's really just a, it's ridiculous to suggest that large immigrant populations don't have political power in democracies.
That's obviously false.
Obviously false.
No, and we can see that that's exactly how Zoro Mamdani was able to win his position in New York City, where he's now going to be in two weeks' time, I guess you say, inaugurated as mayor of the city.
And no, it wasn't 100% of the foreign-born populace that put him in.
Obviously, he worked with native-born New Yorkers, but it was enough.
And so in this sense, if you look at the numbers, by the way, native New Yorkers, people born in New York, voted for Cuomo.
They didn't vote for Mamdani, but it didn't matter because he won enough native-born New Yorkers and then almost all of the foreign-born New Yorkers and was able to win.
This is a huge upset, not for, I should say, not for, if you understand the situation, but for anyone who understands the basic qualities of the immigration system into these areas.
And I said in the speech, if Zoro Mamdani gets his way, you will see terror attacks in Times Square on New Year's Eve in just four years' time.
What have we seen in Australia?
And then what was the news we got out of Los Angeles just today?
We'll have any on later.
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Will, you know, one of the things that I pointed out this week and as well is that, and I said on stage in New York City, just blocks away from ground zero, that even the Twin Towers themselves were taken down by angry migrants who hated America.
And what do we do in the wake of 9-11?
We increased the power of the national security state.
We passed the Patriot Act.
We invaded the Middle East.
But maybe, just maybe, all we really needed to do was lock down our borders, focus on who we are, and keep each other safe.
Why didn't we do that, Will?
That's a really good question.
And it's hard to understand what the Bush administration was doing on that front to not be more selective.
It's hard to understand what's been going on for the last 25 years.
I think the lesson should have been learned on 9-11, and it hasn't been.
And hopefully, I think we're starting to see some movement in the direction of learning it now.
We're really having very good talk about limiting Muslim migration, which I don't even know if was in the Overton window back then.
I mean, I remember one of the things the Bush administration did in the aftermath of 9-11 was be extremely aggressive in his outreach to the Muslim community in the United States.
I mean, he made clear that, you know, they went after Al-Qaeda and Afghanistan.
They went after Iraq, but it's not clear they did anything meaningful in terms of changing immigration policy domestically.
And that's absurd.
And I think it fit into a broader theme that the Republicans have still not totally shaken, which is this idea that immigration is an unalloyed good.
It's not.
It's absolutely not.
And I mean, in the best case, it seems like you get stuff like when it comes to Muslim immigration, you get massive fraud like you do in Somalia.
And in the worst case, you get terrorist attacks.
We just don't need it.
We do not need it anymore.
Islam is not compatible with Western civilization.
And mass Muslim migration is not compatible with Western societies.
And it's time to say this experiment has run its course and it needs to stop.
you know do the people who don't have citizenship and don't have a right to stay in the united states need to be sent home and the people who have a citizenship i mean essentially you you want to encourage people to leave and return back to their home countries i mean we're not going to you know denaturalize unless we have legal reason to do so but we we we basically want to say that we've had we've had quite enough muslim immigration to this country we want it to stop and we want there to be net negative muslim migration to the united states
Well, and what's really strange here, and I see people keep saying it over and over.
What's the benefit been?
What's the benefit to us?
I can't seem to find any.
Is the benefit to our economy?
Is there a benefit to having an Uber driver that, by the way, I'm just going to say it.
I'm going to say it straight up.
Uber sucks now.
Uber is awful.
You can't find a good Uber driver anymore.
You just, you can't do it.
It's like not possible.
They don't exist.
It's really bad in pretty much every city that I've been in lately.
The drivers are slow.
They don't know where they're going.
The app doesn't work.
I honestly say, like, full disclosure, I had a really bad weekend with Uber drivers, and it's just been awful.
And it's been awful because I know for a fact that I'm, you know, it.
These are not Americans when you get in the back of that car.
They're just not.
And it's becoming this new like import class of people that you could be like in the middle of the middle of nowhere and suddenly you're finding like some third world migrant is pulling up in an Uber and you're like, what's going on?
And you ask them basic stuff like, hey, I think you should go this way instead of that way.
And they can't even, they can't even follow what you're saying.
It's horrific.
Sorry, Rant, had to do it.
No, but that's real.
And I mean, that's true all over the Western world.
You have this sort of newly imported class of Uber drivers, Uber Eats, DoorDash drivers kind of working as effectively a kind of servant class, but not a very effective servant class.
And they're, you know, they're not actually adding meaningful value to the United States economy because they're not earning enough to cover the, you know, to cover their way of life.
And so they were, and they're not sure, they're not paying any taxes.
So they're extracting more benefits from the state than they're generating in terms of their economic value.
And we just don't need this stuff.
Like, you know, I think it would be fine if things like DoorDash and Uber were more expensive because the delivery costs were higher, but the net of that, but the FISC wasn't being drained by the social services needed to provide for all these Uber drivers and, you know, deliverers.
It's just, it's not a good trade for the United States broadly.
And our economy would be better off if the government were spending a lot less money on benefits and Uber and DoorDash were a little more expensive.
Yeah.
And what they'll do, right?
What they'll, you'll see them do this is that they will share, they will share account information.
So even then, you know, again, these are just all qualities of a high trust society that importing a low trust society completely flips around.
So they will share accounts.
So the guy that you think is coming in the Uber might not actually match.
You check the car, but are you checking the driver?
Are you sure that's the driver that's on your Uber?
Because just because he's using that account, it doesn't necessarily mean that that's the driver who signed up with the Uber.
And I've seen people do this a number of times.
Make sure that you check.
This is like word to the wise this Christmas.
Make sure you don't just check the car.
Check the driver of your Uber.
And look, I'm saying in terms of poor service, but also potentially in terms of safety.
Will Chamberlain, where can people go to find you?
You can find me personally at Will Chamberlain on X and you can follow what the Article 3 project is doing in terms of being able to get involved.
You can tell senators what you think at a3paction.com.
Thanks so much.
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I wanted to bring on now my colleague, Andy No.
And it's been far too long since I've had Andy No on air, senior editor over at the Postmillennial.
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Andy, how are you, my friend?
I'm all right.
Thanks for having me on, Jack.
So, Andy, talk to us about, and you've done so much work here, talk to us about this Turtle Island Liberation Front far-leftist group.
They were planning attacks on Los Angeles.
This is a known group.
Walk us through what your investigation has revealed thus far.
So, all their social media as of right now is still currently online.
They were very active in putting out their propaganda.
And I would call them an Antifa style group.
Their ideology appears to be more in the vein of communist revolutionaries, anti-Americanism.
Nothing particularly new that we've seen.
I guess what is particularly new is the brazenness of allegedly planning multiple bombings across southern California.
But looking on their propaganda, you can see what the ideology is, which is calling for violence against the U.S. government, violent revolution in the name of a number of causes for Palestine, for so-called decolonization.
So, in their own words, as of right now, you can go on Instagram and see what they say.
They urge violence, they call for the death of ICE agents.
And I'm still reading through the federal criminal complaint.
There's been four individuals who have been arrested so far.
I believe the fifth person was also arrested.
And at least one of them is transgender.
So, that's also not particularly surprising.
We've seen now, basically, whenever there is an incident or allegation of far-left political violence or domestic terrorism, there is now always a nexus of transgenderism.
Well, and we see this, we see this again and again, where there are these far-left groups, these Marxist groups.
They're using Turtle Island.
Their flag is very interesting because it reminds me of one of these, at least one of the flags I've seen associated with them, the red and black.
So the black color of anarchism, the red flag of communism, the mixing of red and black, as almost always seen in Antifa organizations.
And of course, they use the turtle.
So Andy, what does Turtle Island refer to?
So I don't know the significance of this yet.
I had not had a chance to look into this particular group.
They're really, from what I can get, a sense of regional to California, although at least one of their alleged members is also in Louisiana.
So I'll have to keep investigating.
But I think a lot of times the names of these domestic terror left-wing groups, they serve sort of an ad hoc function.
I described this group earlier as like Antifa in style because as you can mention, their color palettes or symbols, their language, but the name itself doesn't have antifa in it.
And that's usually how we see a lot of these antifa groups organized.
They take on names that sound very innocuous or as a dog whistle for something else.
Usually, whenever we see anything that includes Liberation Front in it, there's been a number of Antifa groups that have adopted that into part of their name, like the Youth Liberation Front.
They were involved in organizing the violence and riots during the 2020 after George Floyd died.
Well, the one, yeah, the one that I was, and I haven't seen this direct connection yet, but the one suspicion that I had was that, so Turtle Island is a reference that I've seen a lot by some Native American groups, American Indians, to sort of the landmass of North America itself.
So they view, they say that, oh, this land that we live on is they believe we live on the back of a turtle, and there's a lot of American Indian mythology regarding this.
So that phrase Turtle Island, I have seen used in a reference to what they would call, you know, in First Nations, they would call it in Canada and American Indians in America.
And so I don't know if that's exactly what they're referencing, but to me, it seemed like that was probably an indication of what they believed they were, that American society, that Western society is an imposition on top of these indigenous groups and therefore must be destroyed in order to liberate it.
This is also the plot of the famous TV show Yellowstone, by the way.
Yeah, so if you look on their propaganda online, it has a coalition of left-wing grievances and includes obviously Palestinian nationalists, but also those who are Mexican nationalists and those who are Native American nationalists.
And what they have in common is none of them recognize the legitimacy of the United States as a nation state and beyond that call for its destruction explicitly through violence.
They actually say through one of their rather recent posts is that stop marching, fight now, and they make another number of references to violence.
They say we cannot vote our way out of this.
So I'm not particularly surprised with the allegations from the federal government against this particular group.
We've seen over and over there's so many.
This is just unfortunately a drop in the bucket of within this type of radical left space of groups that operate openly online on these mainstream social media platforms calling for violence against individuals or anti-government violence.
And in fact, the government has released footage, I'm not sure if we have it up, but they've got it seems to be drone footage or some kind of aerial footage of extensive planning of explosives that they were working on in, I guess, in the desert outside of Los Angeles there in California and looking at it now, where this seemed to be an extensive terror plot that A.G. Bondi has tweeted out about.
And they are facing charges, conspiracy possession of unregistered destructive devices.
The belief that I've seen here is that these were intended to be pipe bombs.
They traveled to the desert with precursor chemicals just a couple of days ago and were allegedly going to create bombs with their wares and explosive devices.
They wanted to plant them at multiple companies around the Los Angeles area.
We don't have, and Andy, have you seen any indication of what those companies may have been that they were targeting?
I haven't seen the details of that yet.
So they haven't released that yet.
Okay.
So it's interesting to see if there's specific, well, whatever they specifically were tying to.
But that being said, this is another example, Andy, I think, that in this country, and you and I, of course, both participated in President Trump's roundtable on far-left violence.
The left is getting more violent, aren't they?
Yes, this allegation from the federal government comes on the heels of at least seven people in Texas being federally convicted for providing material support for terrorists in a Antifa shooting ambush attack that happened on an ICE facility early this year.
Also in California in the Bay Area, there was another Antifa associate in the Berkeley area who was convicted and sentenced to 19 years for a number of bombings that he carried out on the Cal campus and around it.
And if you talk to the average liberal, they will have never heard of these convictions and they'll call you a liar if you bring attention to it.
I hope these latest criminal charges are eye-opening for liberals because they have to recognize the problem that exists on their side, which they have refused as the bodies continue to pile up.
Well, and it's very unfortunate because once again, we see these leftist groups organizing.
We see their willingness to use violence.
And this is something that I think a lot of the former statistics that were coming out of mainstream press or mainstream academia were saying that, oh, the right is far more violent.
But it's not true.
It's just not true.
When you look into the statistics, it is the left that is far more willing to use violence.
And certainly we can see that publicly.
We can see leftist groups participating in these protests that turn violent, this agitation against ICE agents, running in front of ICE cars, attacks on ICE facilities, not to mention, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
It is the left that is far more willing to use this violence.
Yes, and bombings and shootings are part of their MO.
I was on the ground in 2020 during the riots in Portland and Seattle, and the explosive devices that I saw the black bloc militants use were IEDs.
They weren't particularly that sophisticated looking, but these bombs could have killed people.
So what they would do is they would tape together multiple commercial fireworks and light them and throw them at the feet of a group of law enforcement, for example, or at the front door of a building and cause an explosion.
And so they make it very clear in their ideology.
They don't hide it at all that their goal is to kill people that they label fascists and Nazis.
And they label all of their opposition that.
They call for the overthrow of the United States government.
We certainly do.
And the liberation of Turtle Island.
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Andy, you've got some new information that's been released by the government regarding the targets in this case, the far-left communist Marxist group, Turtle Island Liberation Front.
What are some of the targets that we're now hearing about?
So this far-left domestic terror group allegedly were plotting to use pipe bombs to kill ICE agents and that they had meetings.
I'm reading through the criminal complaint right now.
One of the alleged members is former military.
We've seen this pattern a lot in terms of radical far-left terror groups recruiting disaffected people who are veterans or have a U.S. military background.
They like them in particular because of the weapons training that they've had.
There's also allegation from the government that the members of this group were inquiring among its members if people could get a hold of unregistered ARs to use in attacks.
So the allegations are extremely serious and it's terrorism, according to the government.
Well, it's clearly far terrorism.
And this, and by the way, direct attacks on ICE agents is something that we've seen increasingly since, as you just mentioned, in Texas, when we knew it was anti-ICE, we had some of the stories that broke right here on Human Events Daily about the writing on the bullets right there in Dallas exactly, where they had written anti-ICE on the bullet casing.
So, Andy, let's pull back a little bit here.
We've seen this, Luigi Maggioni.
We've seen Tyler Robinson, Thomas Matthew Crooks, the anti-ICE attacks in Dallas, now the Turtle Island Liberation Front.
It's incredible that the DOJ is doing what they're doing and actually is able to stop these plots when they first come.
What other steps do you believe that the federal government could be taking now?
And of course, we saw that the JTTFs have been activated by the Attorney General and the President of the United States using this national security memo to go after far-left groups.
But what are some of the steps that you'd like to see going on?
Well, I would like to see additional resources surged into investigating far-left domestic terrorists.
A lot of it is clandestine, but a lot of it as this Liberation Front group is out in the open.
And even though they may not necessarily plan attacks on Instagram posts, they can say a number of things that suggest that this is part of their ideology and that this is part of their agenda and goal.
And there are so many of these groups for until now, all these years, a decade and longer, operated out in the open with impunity because nothing would happen to them or in the few cases where if they did engage in criminal violence and were charged federally,
as we saw during the first Trump administration, the federal prosecutors would agree to these sweetheart plea deals where they just do community service and get the conviction expunged from the record after a short amount of time.
I have not seen these type of sweetheart deals proposed by U.S. attorneys at the federal level in the current administration.
So that's encouraging.
And another thing that can be done is for whatever cases that can be taken under the umbrella of the federal prosecutors to do that.
Because unfortunately, we cannot rely on local state prosecutors in places like Oregon, Washington State, and California to meaningfully prosecute those who are accused of left-wing domestic terrorism.
Well, that's exactly right because in many of these cases we've seen, for example, even, and I just keep coming back to it, where Luigi Maggioni had a judge in New York City take the terrorism charge off of the docket because he claimed that the terrorism statute in New York State was written for civilians and that health care workers didn't count as civilians.
This was a judge who's on the bench in New York who actually viewed Luigi's case as being a simple murder and didn't have political overtones.
Andy, is that true?
Did Luigi Maggioni's case not have this political threat attached to it?
You know, quite often the barrier to justice that I've seen in my many years of reporting on the violent far left are judges themselves and prosecutors working hand in hand, allowing sweetheart plea deals or getting cases dismissed and dropped even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
And unfortunately, we see in many jurisdictions where, in my opinion, in the judiciary, it's compromised.
And it's really heartbreaking because we want to have faith in our criminal justice system.
And too often we see what appears to be activist judges making decisions that appear potentially politically motivated.
And this seems to be the issue, of course, is that there is this mentality, and I've heard it over and over again, whether it be in the FBI or the National Security Administration, or even judges themselves, where they seem to believe that the right, if anything the right does, if they show up, if they protest, anything they say or do is violence.
However, anything the left does, to include threats, to include agitation, to include doxing, to include harassment, in your case, Andy, actual violence that's visited upon you, that anything the left does, or even Chaz itself, when you and I were both there, is protected by the First Amendment.
And it's this pervasive mentality, which is itself a form of anti-fascism, Antifa mentality, that has somehow seeped its way into our very institutions of justice in this country.
Yeah, I think people need to be reminded how much the violent far-left has been able to get away in the United States.
Right now, there's an ongoing civil trial in Seattle of the family of a black boy who was killed by the Chaz border guard securities is suing the city.
Nobody was ever arrested over that.
The city allowed, sanctioned for over three weeks, violent far-left terrorists to take over part of the city to establish a hard border, to bring in their armed border guards to do ID checks on people and to carry out shootings and killings.
Video evidence that has come to light again from five years ago showed that the security were celebrating and cheering as they looked at the blood that was soaked in the vehicle they shot up.
They thought that the black teens were white supremacists and they just killed them and they got away with it.
So, and this was allowed to happen by the city.
People seem to forget that, and it wasn't just Chaz that had a so-called autonomous zone.
There was also one set up in Portland at that time for a number of days.
And they've been able to kill and assassinate people with impunity.
I mean, there was a Trump supporter in Portland in 2020 who was murdered by a so-called Antifa security person.
And then he fled out of state and was given a glowing profile by Vice while he was a fugitive.
So the left-wing terrorists quite often get away in the criminal justice system and are praised by mainstream media institutions as well for the violence.
Well, yes, and in fact, one of those border guards in Chaz, Daniel Allen Baker, who I don't know if he's still in prison in Florida, he was someone who had traveled to Syria,
received training on the battlefield by organizations like YPG, and then had come back to America, traveled to Chaz, and used this training that he received from leftist groups and terrorist groups on the ground in Syria to enact violence in the Chaz and perhaps knows quite a bit about that shooting.
Has he ever been questioned by Seattle PD?
I don't know.
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