THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 108 — Stranger Things = Gay? College Football, Ruined? Spotify Wraps?
The ThoughtCrime crew dives into the most important topics of the moment, including: -Did Netflix's Stranger Things 5 open with on-screen child molestation? -Is Lane Kiffin wrecking college football, or making it better than ever? -What do the most-played Spotify songs of the crew reveal about them? Support the show
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Welcome to Thursday, Thought Crime.
I'm Andrew Colvet.
We've got the crew kind of scattered across the country.
There's Danny.
We got Tyler, Blake.
We're going to have Jack Pesovic joining us in just a few.
But we thought we'd get it started on the proper time.
Is this the proper time?
I think this is a proper time.
It's the new time now.
You can't forget the time.
We moved the time.
I'm in a different time zone.
So that's partly the issue.
And you know what else trips me up?
Although, Blake, you love this.
Is that Arizona?
So now that I'm living in Arizona now, the whole like never changing the clock.
So part of the year, you're on Pacific time.
Part of the time, part of the year of the year, we're on God's time.
God's time.
And I'm still a little confused about this.
But Blake, you keep me straight.
Tyler, you're a lifelong Arizonan.
Do you like that?
Yeah, I like not changing our clocks, but I wish we were Pacific time all the time.
Mountain Time's great.
We're only two hours away from the East Coast.
We don't have these big three-hour gaps.
I like having the three hours away from the further we are from the East Coast, the better.
We could go to Hawaii time.
And I'm a big fan of, I just like being California.
There's something, Arizona is definitely more California to me than it is like Colorado.
What about Utah?
Utah is more Nevada.
Yeah, Utah.
Nevada is definitely more California.
Utah is just a lot like Arizona.
You guys are making these weird distinctions between states.
You know what's weird, actually, is Nevada.
If you're in the South, it's more like California.
If you're in the North, it's more like Idaho and Utah.
No, but I mean mountain time, like Utah should be mountain time.
There's mountain.
There's like, that's like a mountain state.
Arizona is, I know, we have mountains, we have like big mountains, but we're not part of the Rockies.
So we should be Pacific.
You know what the best part of Arizona is?
Central Times is not that bad.
Oh, well, okay.
Here we go.
I grew up on Central Time.
In between everybody.
Well, Ohio's on Eastern Time, but Central Times, Chicago.
You mean Texas?
Yeah.
How many times have we had discussion?
You're from Michigan.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I didn't mean to devolve the conversation in such a way.
But I did mention Ohio State, and I think that's what we want to hit first.
I mean, we have to.
We have to.
Well, so the Ohio State.
Yeah.
So to set this up, it's the.
Yeah.
Oh, we talked about it on, we actually talked about it on the show today as well.
But it's very funny because it felt like a super eventful Thanksgiving weekend, which it was.
We had the attack in D.C.
We had the Somali fraud story really bubbling up.
The Trump administration announcing huge changes to immigration.
We have this escalation of the whole seditious six issue and possible regime change in Venezuela.
And if you take all of those things, I don't think any of them were the biggest story for most Americans.
The biggest story for if you're a normal, red-blooded, probably Trump voting American in the middle of the country, the biggest story of the weekend is that a college football coach went to a different college.
And we're talking, of course, about Lane Kiffin.
He's the highly successful coach of the Ole Miss Rebels.
He coached them all the way to the playoff this year.
I think it's one of their best results ever.
And if they get a title, I think it'd be, I don't, have they ever won a title before?
I have to check.
Ole Miss?
Yeah, Ole Miss.
I don't think so.
Ole Miss.
Oh, that's an interesting question.
I don't believe so.
I think that would be their first ever title.
And so he had all that success.
And then he got offered a shinier job at LSU just over the border in Louisiana, decided it's a nicer program.
So he skipped town and he went away to it.
And we've got, I think we've got like clips of them giving him kind of a, you know, a single finger send off and all of that.
So this blew up.
And one, we can debate the actual story itself.
And I'm sure you have an opinion on that, Danny, but I also want to debate the state of college football generally.
And in honor of Charlie, who remains a Oregon Ducks fan on assignment with God.
I'm told this is called The Duck.
I called it Ducky the Duck earlier, but I just made that up.
So Charlie would care deeply about the state of college football.
So he would want us to discuss this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the key here.
We're doing this.
Like, this is a pure ode to Charlie because Charlie would love this topic.
And, you know, that was what was so great about Charlie.
He was like as American as apple pie.
He was, like, college football, that was his thing.
Loved the Ducks and loved talking sports.
Like, he used to tell me, by the way, that if he could do one thing on top of the show, that it would be to have just like a sports podcast.
And then we would talk sports and people would get like, we'd get emails in the freedom of charliekirk.com and they would be like, this isn't a sports podcast.
What are you doing?
We want to hear the news.
But Charlie loved it.
And he also said, and Danny will attest, if he ever got out of politics, he wanted to be a college football coach.
True story.
Yeah.
So, but this is a story that has captivated the nation to your point, Blake.
Why?
What is the story?
I mean, you kind of went through it a little bit, but like, why has it captivated the nation?
Well, so Lane Kiffen has always been a slightly controversial figure in the realm of college football.
He's been at a lot of different teams.
He's had more than one awkward departure.
I'm mainly an NFL fan.
I remember him just being a disastrous coach of, I think it was the Oakland Raiders, and this was 15 years ago or so.
But he's an interesting coach.
He's often villain.
He's a Trump supporter.
He's a vocal Trump supporting coach.
So you have all these different angles to it.
And we've had this happen a few times.
In fact, I believe we've had other coaches.
I always come at this from the NFL perspective.
And so I remember, I'm drawing blank.
Who's the famous Alabama coach?
He won five titles.
Nick Saban.
He bailed on an NFL team, I believe, to go to Alabama.
There was another coach, Miami.
He was on the Miami Dolphins, and he skipped town.
What was it?
That was really bad.
No, no, I think Nick Sabin was the one who left the Miami Dolphins.
Yeah, this was a Falcons coach.
It was a Falcons coach who bailed.
That was Bobby Petrino.
Yes, Bobby Petrino, he skipped town on the Atlanta Falcons after Michael Vick got arrested for dogfighting and that team was clearly cooked.
And I think he said he was sticking around and then just kidding and he bailed.
So we actually have a long history of coaches jumping from one role to another.
And certainly in college football, a very successful coach at a smaller program is routinely promoted up to a bigger one.
So we've had guys who are in Division II go Division I. We've had those coaches at the FCS level rise up to the bowl level.
But I think this one stands out the most actually because it still is another competitive program.
It's one that has some pride and some history.
And you just have this purely mercenary angle to it of I have decided this program is just slightly cooler and slightly better.
And I'm just going to take, I'm going to take the money and I'm going to take the status and bolt to it.
But you probably follow this the most, Danny.
So what do you make of all this?
Yeah, I mean, the craziest thing of all this is Lane Kiffin didn't address his team when he left.
So he just left and he never told like the players privately beforehand.
So apparently they all found out from the administration, everybody else at the same time.
So that's kind of what made this even bigger and what blew up among the fans.
And then the players started like coming out and tweeting at Lane Kiffin that he never like talked to him.
So that made it even worse.
But knowing Lane Kiffin, that's probably like really on brand for him.
This is totally Lane Kiffin.
This is like the most Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin thing that's ever been done.
LSU actually plays at Ole Miss next year.
So that's going to be quite the game now.
It's going to be huge.
Go ahead, Tyler.
Oh, I was just going to say, I was really interested to watch on X like how LSU fans reacted to this because it tells you a lot about LSU fans because all of them were like really excited about it.
And like, I mean, that's such a dirty way to like have that, this all go down, this whole thing.
And his, and his statement, did we, but did we throw up his statement?
His statement was like so BS.
It's like.
Oh, I haven't even read it.
I want to know what it is.
Oh, you did this Lane Kiffin's statement?
Oh, man.
It's a tweet.
Let's bring it up here.
Lane Kiffin's tweet is like such BS.
And it's like, if I was, I mean, look, I mean, this is like one of the dirtiest things ever happened to Ole Miss.
And it's a lose-lose for Ole Miss now at this point.
What do you mean?
Explain that.
Well, if they go, if they go and win, right?
Because they have a good team, like, which they're not going to.
They're not going to like, they're not going to win a national championship.
But like, if they do make it, there's going to be like all these questions surrounding like coaching.
And like they probably need a better situation coach-wise than what they're going to be dealt with for the remainder of the season.
They're not going to make it to the national championship, but like, let's imagine they make it to the national championship in their best case scenario and they lose, which is probably the best case scenario.
Like, this is going to live in infamy forever.
Even if they get knocked out in the first game in the playoff, like Lane Kiffin's going to become like the most hated man like south of the Mason-Dixon line.
Like he is.
No, he already is.
Check this out.
Tyler, throw up 354.
This is actually like a true story.
Lane Kiffin claims old Misfan tried to run him off the road.
So when he goes into Oxford, he's like legit going to need a full detailed security.
They're going to have to like sneak him into the venue.
What are they going to do when he's on the sideline?
People are going to start throwing bottles at him.
Andrew, we had for our tour stop.
So the Charlie Memorial tour stop here this last, the entire stadium, basketball stadium was full of students.
Yeah, that wasn't even a door.
Yeah, it was 10,000, 10,000.
And by the way, we had over 50% of that school enrollment had registered for that event.
They showed.
50% of the entire enrolled student body registered for the memorial.
They were all show up.
They show up.
They're an enthusiastic crew, man.
They were really enthusiastic.
Dude, I would not want to be Lane Kiffin dealing with that.
He's going to walk in there next year.
I want to go.
We should go.
LLC is probably going to walk in with not a great record either.
I bet with our turning point chapter there, we could do a heck of a game day, college game day event there.
We should actually really do this.
Here's the statement from Lane Kiffin.
He posted this on X.
He said, after a lot of prayer and time spent with family, I made the difficult decision to accept the head coaching position at LSU.
Was hoping to complete a historic six-season run with this year's team by leading Old Miss through the playoffs, capitalizing on the team's incredible success and their commitment to finish strong and investing everything into a playoff run with guardrails in place to protect the program in any areas of concern.
My request to do so was denied by Keith Carter.
Oh, he's making an enemy out of somebody here, despite the team also asking him to allow me to keep coaching them so they could better maintain their high-level performance.
Unfortunately, that means Friday's Egg Bowl was my last game coaching the Rebels.
Why I'm looking forward to a new start with a unique opportunity at LSU, I will forever cherish the incredible six years I spent with Ole Miss and will be rooting hard for the team to compete there, complete their mission and bring a championship to Austin.
A great part of this, a great part of this is the players have already come out to say that it's total BS when he says the team wanted him to keep coaching.
Bryson Sanders said he has this quote, despite the team asking me to keep coaching, I think everyone that was in the room would disagree.
And then another guy here, Sun Tarine Perkins, they have new names every year in this thing.
He says, that was not the message you said in the meeting room.
Everyone that was there can vouch on this.
So we already have the players calling Lane Kithen a liar.
It seems pretty sinister.
What's funny to me as a guy who's more into the NFL, though, is just so he seems villainous that he basically just bolted to go take what he thought was a better deal at LSU and didn't stick around.
But isn't that basically the highest value of college football at this point?
Every single college player, you can get paid now.
So the amateur sports aspect is dead.
And you can transfer without any serious penalties.
We just have the transfer portal.
So aren't we effectively at the point where it's just, why wouldn't a coach be any different?
If anything, at least the coach has to sign a multi-year deal.
The players don't.
Every player is basically a one-year free agent.
College football, prove me wrong.
College football is just a more mercenary, more, more bloodthirsty, more out-for-yourself version of the NFL.
They have switched places.
Well, I totally agree.
Everybody is.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Danny.
I want to hear from you.
I want to hear from you.
College football is so much better than the NFL because you get true rivalries.
You get true underdogs.
You did.
You don't.
You did have true rivalries.
You still have that.
Ohio State, Michigan, still the best rivalry in all sports.
It's not even a question.
And the Ohio State, I thought.
Yeah, you had the D in front of it.
Well, I reserved the right.
I don't need the D if I went there.
I'm just making it.
That's the rule I'm coming up with.
Yeah, I get options.
There's real, real rivalries.
There's real underdogs.
There's no underdog in the NFL.
Everybody's a professional.
It's like college professionals in college now.
No, no, the team spirit and the crowds in college are also way more rowdy, which makes the game so much more enjoyable to watch and be there.
It's just second to none to the NFL.
It's just kind of whatever.
By the way, real quick, Cade Kaufman, regular commenter, regular don't, he donated two bucks and he says, my grandpa is a massive ole miss fan, and he was not happy.
That is to say the least, it seems the state of Mississippi, they are, well, they're called the Rebels.
They're in revolt again.
They're in revolt against Louisiana.
Isn't that a funny thing that you just brought up?
Like, okay, so we have to change the name of the Redskins and we have to change the name of the Indians.
But like, somehow the Rebels have gotten off completely scot-free.
I guess maybe because they know that Louisville didn't.
Well, Florida State, if you look, Florida State still has the guy in the red face paint riding horse with the seminal with the spear on fire and they throw it into the midfield.
It's pretty sweet.
Which is bad.
It was just, I was going to Throw out a quasi-square word, but that's that's not Charlie's mode, which is super cool, which is actually really a great thing.
And, like, you know, what's so funny about this is you're celebrating warrior culture for Native Americans, and somehow that became a bad thing.
Anyways, but the point is that I think it's fascinating that the rebels get to celebrate, you know, sparking a civil war, and nobody's like, nobody even blinks about the name.
I'm not in favor of getting rid of this.
That's actually not true.
You see, that's part of why, that's actually why they've tried to get rid of it.
Yeah, no, it's actually one of the reasons I would say this was pointed out by Scott Greer in an essay where he was talking about the messy state of college football.
So I want to shout that out.
He pointed out, so this is a good example of how college football has actually been corroded and corrupted over time.
That so this team, people, let's be frank, they used to wave Confederate flags at Ole Miss's Stadium all the time, and they used to have the Confederate flag in the Mississippi state flag, but they banned them.
Not even just discouraged, they have banned them.
They used to play Dixie regularly at Ole Miss games.
They got rid of that.
They used to have this Colonel Reb mascot who looked like this old Confederate officer guy.
They got rid of him.
Yeah, they got rid of Colonel Rebb.
The university was a key player.
Now, now they're see if you guys can get this.
Their freaking new mascot is Tony the Land Shark.
Yeah, that's what I think of.
That's what I think of when I hear the word rebel, a land shark.
And then the state actually, the university played a huge role in campaigning.
Yeah, that's you have to bring up Johnny.
No one can see what that is, Tyler.
But Colonel Reb was like one of the best mascots.
Yeah, it was a great mascot.
It's iconic.
It's regional.
It's a real regional mascot.
I'm a Yankee.
Like Colonel Reb, like the actual mascot that they used to have him dress.
Like, it's incredible.
Yeah, it's great.
But they killed it and they're not bringing it back.
And the state, you know, the university played a key role in them changing the state flag.
They basically said, we need to change the state flag to get better recruits and get in more national football games.
So it really is everyone wants to celebrate the rivalries.
They want to celebrate the traditions in college football.
But it seems like all of those traditions get thrown out pretty quickly when there's slightly more money to be made for your program.
And okay, we have a term for that.
It's just you're a professional sports league.
And I think there is a sad, sad state of affairs.
There is becoming a very good hat.
Blake needs to grow out that mustache.
I don't think I could grow that mustache.
I don't have the power to look like I'm a Prussian aristocrat.
Yeah, well, you could.
Yeah, yeah.
The Vladimir.
But mine would not be like white like then.
What were you going to say, Danny?
Well, one of the reasons that Lane Kippen, like this problem is that he wasn't allowed to keep coaching is because the school didn't want him to keep poaching his players to bring them to LSU.
So they basically said you're done coaching because they didn't want him around the program to take basically half the oldness team with him to LSU.
So in that sense, I mean, the transfer portal has ruined some of college football in terms of roster management, but the traditions of rivalries, I think, are still there.
No, they're fading.
They're degrading.
Here's the sad truth.
Here's the sad truth about college football, Danny, that you're going to have to come to grips with is that I agree with Blake.
It's basically more cutthroat and more greedy and more driven by money.
I think, and this is the funny thing that the NFL.
This is the funny thing about college football is the fans don't want to admit it.
They do not want to come to grips with the fact that college football is purely driven.
This is why the Pac-12 doesn't exist anymore.
This is why you have West Coast teams playing in East Coast leagues.
I mean, everything, this is why we have the 12-team college playoff.
This is the root of every new change and every disruption in college football.
And the schools, they realize that this is a huge moneymaker.
So the ones that have are trying to make sure that they get in with the ones that have a lot more so that they can't continue making more money.
It's a revenue game, but the fans don't want to admit it.
We do want to give Charlie his word on this.
So we talked about rivalries.
Let's go.
We were talking about, this is when we were talking about another actually topic, the pledge on whether you can, you know, whether you should avoid watching the NFL, I think was one of the components of it.
But let's play Charlie on college rivalries, 355.
Can we talk about this?
Can we talk about the enjoyment?
By the way, I hate UW more than I probably hate Stalin.
Okay.
And I can't believe you're a Ducks fan.
Like, the odds of this happening that you and I have worked together for this many years and you're a Ducks fan?
Better yet, Andrew was into it.
So half of me was like, oh my gosh, the trolling that I would have over this would be.
But yet, even with that, I said, I actually feel really bad.
Oh, man, I miss him.
I miss him.
I couldn't believe it.
I miss how I would make fun of him and tease him when the Ducks would flop in the playoffs again this year.
It would be funny.
Are they contenders for the playoffs?
I think they are.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I was really pulling for.
What's their record at?
Are they at one loss or two, Danny?
Yeah, they're 11 and one.
They're a lot one.
I was really pulling.
Who did they?
They lost to Indiana, right?
Yeah.
I shouldn't have been rooted against Oregon.
But my natural instinct is automatically to root against Oregon.
Like every time.
And now I'm feel very, very conflicted, like in honor of Charlie.
But my natural go-to is like, as a Pac-12, as an ASU fan, is like Oregon just beat the living crap out of us for so long that it just is hard to get.
All right.
I think, Danny, do you have to, do we have a heart out for you here?
Yep.
I'm out of here.
All right.
All right.
Well, we'll bid farewell to Danny.
And while we wait for, I think Jack is going to join us.
We do have another, we have another Rumble rant, and I want to respond to it.
I think hopefully one of us can answer this.
This is from Kyrie McAllen, who says, hey, guys, what are the odds someone on the waiting list for Amfest will still get word a spot has opened because if there's no longer hope, I need to cancel my Airbnb.
Tyler or Andrew, do you guys know the status on waitlist stuff?
That is a really good question.
That was a great question.
I've never seen this content before.
I'll ask.
Yeah, I think it's just the events email, events at tpsa.com.
I feel really sad because I know one of our people mentioned last week, they had a ticket that they wanted to donate, I believe, because they couldn't make it.
But I guess that wasn't a possible change that we could make at this late stage of the game.
It's too bad, but it's difficult because I know tickets are tied to individual people and they don't want to get that all messed up.
But thank you, regardless, Kyrie, for being a supporter.
Yeah, I'm asking the events team right now, and one of them is writing back.
I see the typing happening.
So hopefully we'll know.
And please forgive us this year because Amfest, obviously, with everything that happened, I mean, it just, oh, I got an email here.
Everyone was emailed that it won't happen and they'll get a discount code for 2026.
Alrighty, okay.
Yeah, we feel really bad.
Like, Andrew, I'm echoing this too.
We have the absolute largest possible venue that we have in the state of Arizona.
We have maxed out the maximum capacity that's there.
We appreciate everybody and we're so sad that people can't, they can't make it, but this is a good reason.
It's like get your tickets early.
Yeah, be there and plan to be there for next year in particular because it's going to get big.
And we have actually a special announcement.
I think that's coming for not next year, but the year following too.
We're making a two-year in advance announcement.
They're going big.
The events team is going huge and it's going to keep escalating.
We're going to use the way we'll have our speaker announcements for two years in advance so you will know who the biggest celebrities will be on the right two years from now.
It'll be like a time portal into the future.
We have some people responding to the college football topic.
I liked Unashamed Girl for Him says, I hated that they added the money aspect to college.
College was way, college football was way better before that.
They should be playing for the love of the game, not of money.
And I get the appeal of that.
I think the biggest problem was it became about money for everyone else.
The coaches were making millions of dollars.
The assistant coaches could make millions of dollars.
The broadcasters were making billions of dollars.
The schools were making millions of dollars.
So why were the players to some extent just cattle practically?
They were just a tool who could get plugged in.
And yeah, they could get, they had the scholarship aspect of it, but even that is like so corroded at this point.
Being a student athlete is, in a lot of schools, it's practically a joke.
You can go to special separate classes for the athletes with special tutors.
They make sure you don't have to work too hard or have to know how to read as much as everyone else.
And it's turned it all into a joke.
And that's always been one of my problems with college football as an idea is it's over time, it's turned our colleges into mockeries of what they're intended to be.
A lot of these are state-funded, taxpayer-funded institutions.
Well, Blake, I have a question.
Maybe you know the answer.
If not, we can look it up.
So now that, you know, say, say, Archie Manning, who's getting paid apparently like $10 million, so highest paid player in college football.
Say he doesn't pass his grades.
You know, there used to be a clause that if you didn't get passing grades, you would get, you, you got sat, you know, on Sunday or Saturday, rather.
Is that still a thing?
Archie Manning, $10 million man.
If he doesn't pass Muster is academics.
I believe it still is the rule, but the deal is, is that they have, okay, if the rule is that you have to pass your grades, but there's so much writing on this.
Well, we can't allow those grades to get into the way.
And so that's why they have those systems where, okay, here's special classes you can take.
We're going to make sure wink, wink, nudge, nudge, they're not too difficult.
Here's some special tutors.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
They might really, really help you with your academic work.
This happens a lot.
We have one scandal after another.
I remember for college basketball, there was a school, I think it was Danny's beloved Ohio State, but I might misremember, where basketball players could take basketball as a class for credit.
And I believe you could take it multiple times.
Infamously, the instructor for this class, they had a quiz where it included the question, how many points is a three-point basket worth?
And that's extreme cases.
There are players who do make the most of the college opportunities they get from going there for free.
But the temptation is always going to be towards diluting it, towards making it meaningless, towards just maximizing the money-making aspect of it.
And I don't have a problem with that in pro sports.
I think it's weird that we do this with our taxpayer-funded institutions.
So academic eligibility is still required to compete in college sports to maintain their NIL opportunity.
So it's actually tied to their paycheck.
So they have to complete a specific number of NCAA approved core courses, and they must maintain a minimum GPA for Division I athletes of 2.3, and they must be making reasonable progress to award a degree each semester, typically measured by completing a certain number of credits.
So they have a credit requirement, they have a GPA requirement, and it's tied to their NIL opportunities.
So fair enough.
All right.
All right, we're still waiting on Jack.
How about we jump into, because I don't think Jack had a funny take on this, but we have Spotify does this annual wrap-up or Spotify raps, they call it.
And I know both of you two have you looked at yours and you have what your most listened to music is, and we're going to force you to reveal it.
Tyler, I think yours is less embarrassing than mine.
So why don't you stop?
Why don't you start?
With what?
You have to reveal your Spotify rap.
No, I don't know.
I thought you're revealing.
Oh, I'm first.
Yeah, you've got to reveal it, bro.
Yeah, mine's kind of embarrassing, though.
Yeah, that's why we're making you reveal it.
All right.
Mine is more embarrassing.
Fine, I'll go first.
Okay.
No, yours is nice, Andrew.
Yours actually looked like mine last year, and then I made a cognizant decision to change who controlled the audio in my car.
No, so here's the backstory with mine.
We have one account because they keep advertising to us.
I don't want, no, you don't get to justify it first.
We have to reveal it first.
Then you can make your excuses.
Let's reveal.
Let's reveal Andrew's, his Spotify rap.
Let's got it.
I think it's 350.
We have a collage for this.
Let's show up.
What is Andrew's most listened to song?
Oh, that's really Zoom.
You guys are good on these things.
I can't see that.
That's really tiny.
You guys got to make it bigger images.
But luckily, I prepared for this.
So I already know what his number one is.
And it is K-pop Demon Hunters.
Yeah, I mean, the reality, though, is that K-pop Demon Hunters is actually Andrew, not his kids.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We all know how.
If I admit that I know basically all the words at this point, yeah.
It was funny because Foz was like, dude, I had to outlaw K-pop demon hunters from our house.
Yeah, you didn't.
You didn't outlaw it, Andrew.
Who's to say I didn't at this point?
Mine's the same, Andrew.
It's fallen off.
It's fallen off because one of the pages they do, they show you which ones you're listening to at different times.
K-pop is no longer in the, but it's still overall for the year.
It's number one.
But that's only slightly less embarrassing than Moana 2 being our number two most listened to album.
And then Mufasa, the Lion King, wrapping up the top three.
But I will say, I got Morgan Wallen and Forrest Frank Child of God 2 rounding out the top five.
Is Morgan Wallen your wife's or yours, though?
No, it's more me.
I grew up listening to country music.
So I, yeah, Charlie and I never saw eye to eye on this.
He hated country music.
I hate country music.
I think he liked that it was kind of American and mostly a conservative fan base and that sort of thing, but couldn't stand the sound.
So, but I was always like, Charlie, you just, you just don't know.
You just don't know how good it is.
Your top podcast was Garden Keeper Gus.
Is this a children's book?
Is it like a radio drama?
It's very calming and soothing.
So when they are freaking out in the back of the car, they're calm.
You listen to Garden Keeper Gus and they listen to a story.
And we turn the speakers.
We set the balance into the back, into the back seats so that we don't have to, so we can actually have a conversation among adults and they can listen to their podcast.
That's the strategy.
Come on, Tyler.
Back me up.
Blake doesn't have any kids.
That's a Spotify original.
No, my kids in the car, they make me turn on the Road Trip Trivia podcast.
It's not on Spotify.
It's a trivia podcast.
Yeah, Road Trip Trivia.
It's these two moms, and it's very interactive.
So every time I get in the car, they immediately go straight to it.
So I actually might turn on Guardian Keeper Gus and just put him to sleep in the back.
I mean, that's good if you can put your kids to sleep.
All right.
So I think we're still.
Do we have Jack ready to join?
He can join, but we still have to go.
We're going to do Jack.
We're going to do Tyler's Reveal and then bring Jack on.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Well, we're going to humiliate you before Jack gets here then, Tyler.
So, Tyler, what is let's let's put up 349, except I'm still not going to be able to see it.
I bet what's yours?
Oh, your top genre is Screamo.
I'm not a very embarrassed by this at all.
And mine last year actually was all kids stuff, just like Andrew's was.
And then we made the change.
So now they have an iPad in the back that connects to the radio.
So they get to use that.
Screamo.
Yeah, I have.
Your top song.
Well, give us a Screamo song.
They have to play one of these Screamo songs he's into.
Yeah, but no, this is the thing, though.
My Yellow Card is Screamo?
Yeah, my top artist.
None of them are Screamo.
It's Yellow Card.
I think I had on there.
Death Cab for Cutie.
Like, that's not.
That's like, it's just like emo.
Lewis the Child is great.
Jack's Mannequin, which is like probably my.
I haven't even heard of most of these bands.
You haven't?
The Ataris?
I've never heard of them.
No, I've never heard of them.
I've never heard of Louis the Child.
I've never heard of Jack's Mannequin.
I've heard of Death Cab for Cutie.
Wait, you guys haven't heard of any of these guys?
Death Cabinet?
Yellow Card, I've probably heard of, but I couldn't have told you what genre they are.
Oh, that's good stuff.
Screamo EDM.
Are you just listening to trance music while driving?
As long as they comment on it, we're good.
This is Jack's Mannequin.
This is Jack's Mannequin.
Okay, do we have one of the Screamo songs he likes?
We need it.
What's your favorite Screamo song?
See, that's the thing.
Well, then Tyler shouldn't have listened to Screamo.
Screamoll.
We don't play it on the show.
The best era-driven Screamo that I listened to for my era was Taking Back Sunday.
Was Cute Without the E, cut from the team.
Can we throw that up?
You guys have to know this song.
Cute Without the E, cut from the team.
What?
The cute without the E?
Yeah, that's the cute name of the team.
That's the same thing.
You haven't heard of.
I have never heard of this in my life.
You haven't heard of Taking Back Sunday.
All music for me was violently killed in 1991 when Nevermind came out.
And that's the end.
Are we getting that there?
Are we getting it?
Is this your music?
Okay.
So you just listened to a Tony Hawks Pro Skater soundtrack?
Yeah, that's right.
Did this audience remember Tony Hawks Pro Skater on the N64?
We had, wait, all that stuff.
That's the chorus.
You ready?
See, emo and Screamo in the 2000s was very normal.
It was very normalized by like skating and surfing and snowboarding.
Yeah, it was very normalized.
So was a lot of things were normalized in the 2000s.
So like kind of like skaters and skater trash and fake skater trash.
Yeah, very interesting.
You know, Yellow Card has made a big comeback.
They've done like a world tour and stuff.
They were number one this month.
Yeah.
Really?
They got a song to number one.
I knew that they were making a big comeback.
People, people like when bands have those kind of revival tours, it's very interesting to me.
It's like you listen to these bands when you're young, and then you get a little bit older, and then they go on tour again, they reform the band, and then their fans have all this money, so then they just buy tons of merch and they buy more expensive tickets and they fill out these arenas.
You, you really do have this kind of like second-wave career if you're if you're a youth culture band.
It's fascinating, yeah.
Uh, I, you know, I actually have a good yellow card story.
So, yellow card in high school, when I was in high school, I worked at Target, and so after school, I would go work at Target as like a like I used to like check out as like a lane guy or a guest services guy.
And a girl worked with me, and we gave her uh my yellow card CD to remember you used to burn CDs, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think I ever, I think I had my uncle do that, and I had him send me Appetite for Destruction.
So, you'd buy that one person would buy the CD and then you'd like illegally burn it and like like duplicate it at home like a thousand times.
And so, I always would get the CDs because I worked at Target, so I got this and everyone would burn it.
So, this girl burned the CD.
And the reason why she did because she really liked yellow card because she was a violinist because yellow card is violin punk, so they have a violin punk, yeah.
It's like a punk.
I thought punk was supposed to be violent, not violin.
No, it's very, it's very pop punk with a violin.
And her name was Lindsay Sterling, who ended up becoming a very famous violinist, if you've ever heard of it.
Oh, that's that's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.
I still don't get how that's punk, but but we worked together at Target and she burned my yellow card CD.
Alrighty, okay, okay, Poso is beating down the door.
And by the way, the reason you can't see my Spotify rap is because, as per my declared state, I don't subscribe to anything, so I don't have Spotify, I don't follow any streaming services, and so none of them can produce a yearly wrap-up of what I'm listening to.
When she worked at Target, you have no good stories, you have no, you have no, we have nothing, no content because Blake doesn't subscribe to it.
You cannot get anything on the bank.
And he can't even, he can't even participate in this next topic either because he doesn't subscribe to it.
Exactly, but we're gonna do it anyway because I have a big picture idea about it.
No, uh, wait, we have Jax, a topic he really, really wanted to hit, but we need a video to set it up.
And so this might be a little bit more in the entire country.
I mean, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that it wouldn't be on Blake's radar, but like literally everyone else in the country is talking about it.
Yeah, exactly, but I won't because I keep myself pure and immune.
But we have this video we need to play.
Setting it up.
And so it is clip 3-3-3.
Okay.
So just before you say anything, Jack, can I say this?
When Jack brought this up originally and tweeted about this, I thought he was being overdramatic.
And I was like, this is like, this seems like it's way overdramatized.
Not that Jack gets overly dramatic often, but sometimes on the pop stuff, it could happen.
And so I'm like, I'm going to watch, sit down and watch this.
And I watched it.
And I was actually, I thought that Jack didn't go hard enough on this.
Well, so let's explain what we're talking about.
So for people who might just be listening, also hi, or people who, you know, don't have no idea what we're talking about, like Blake, for example.
So this is season five of the TV show, Netflix show, Stranger Things, has just come out.
This is Netflix's number one show.
It is currently the Netflix's number one show worldwide.
It's been a massive cultural phenomenon.
The original season was all about 80s nostalgia.
That's what made it so big in the first place.
You hear the synth music, it's kids riding around on bikes.
So it's got a lot of allusions back to old 1980s, you know, movies and growing up like that.
And so similar to what Andrew was just saying about how youth brands and youth bands could have a second life, it's sort of like that same thing where it's, you know, this is a way for a lot of Gen Xers and elder millennials, Gen Wires to be able to sort of share the 80s with their kids.
And they've gone and they've been making the show gayer and gayer as the seasons go on.
And in this scene, this is the, so this is a flashback, what you're actually watching back to season one.
So what you're seeing here is them reestablishing something or what they'd say, revealing something that actually happened in season one that they're only showing you now for the first time.
And I watched this scene and you're seeing the big bad right there of the whole series.
We'll call him gay Darth Vader.
And what gay Darth Vader is doing, also known as Vecna, is he is metaphorically, you know, it looks like he is physically violating this young boy.
We'll call him Gay Luke Skywalker with his tentacle.
And he is shoving his tentacle down Gay Luke Skywalker's mouth and shooting his dark effluvia down the boy's throat.
The boy's eyes roll backwards.
They, you know, they, you know, they roll back in his head.
He starts gagging and at which point gay Darth Vader then starts stroking the boy's face and his sort of neck also, his head also goes back in a form of pleasure.
And to me, I watched this.
This was actually released prior to the season itself.
And I said, guys, this is very clearly representative of a gay rape scene.
And that's crazy that nobody is calling out Netflix for this, number one, for filming and putting something like this in, again, this is their Keystone show.
This is their, you know, tentpole show.
This is their blockbuster.
People have been waiting for this for four years for this very episode to come out.
And that's the first thing you see.
And what was crazy is that people then came back to me and said, oh, that's not what it is, Jack.
You're just making a big deal of it.
To Tyler's point, no, no, that's really, really what it's representative of.
Oh, it was like it was more horrifying than I realized.
And I sat down.
It's like right at the beginning.
It's like they like they wanted this to be the lead off.
And it's super, everything about it's weird.
Like I was talking about it with my wife while we were watching.
We're like, I was like, oh, this is the thing Jack was talking about.
She's like, what is it?
I'm like, it's like something, something gay happens at the beginning.
And she's like, what are you talking about?
And we watched it.
And I was like, there was, we went through it.
There's probably 50 different ways they could have done this like so easily.
It's like they, this was, this is like, this has to be intentional.
Like all this is like, it's so clearly, weirdly intentional.
And even like the scripting of it, super, like, none of it's necessary.
It has nothing to do plot wise.
Like, there's no way that this actually is applicable to like the story in any kind of way other than it just being like super weird.
So Jack, did you say, did you describe it?
You said it was text, a textbook gay rape scene?
Representative, like representative of pedophile, you know, behavior.
And by the way, so there was a, actually a professor from the University of Chicago sort of responded to my, I wrote an op-ed about this over the Thanksgiving break and sort of responded to my piece and said, and said, yes, that's true.
However, if you watch the rest, and the rest of the season kind of gets into this, where this character, his name is Vecna, but I call him Gay Darth Vader, where Gay Darth Vader is then targeting other children, but he does so in a guise called Mr. What's It.
And her point was, well, perhaps you could read it as a warning of grooming behavior.
And while that's all, you know, well and good, I just think this scene itself in a TV series, which has been marketed very largely towards children is just inappropriate.
It's just, it's so weird.
I mean, everything, everything is very.
It's very graphic.
It's very graphic.
And, you know, the fact that we have to blur it out for, I mean, here's what I would say, Jack, to those people that were hating on you.
It's like, who, who any age over like 15 wouldn't see this imagery and be like, that looks a little phallic.
Like, you would, of course, see that.
You could not see that by looking at that image.
And then him petting the kid's head.
And like, I'm kind of with you.
It's with you, Tyler.
Like, it's worse than I imagine.
And I get that like people are going to defend it as some sort of like make-believe.
But to your point, I think a lot of families watch this show.
Am I wrong, Jack?
I only watch season one.
A lot of families watch the show, yes.
A lot of family watch together, like, especially with like teenagers and stuff like that.
And like a little bit, like my kids are kind of in the perfect.
My, my two older kids are kind of in the perfect.
My, though, I feel like nine, 10, 11, 12 year olds are like, this is kind of like a really cool show to like that age group.
Cause it's just, it's, it's not really scary, but it's scary.
Enough.
And it's, you know, it's just kind of an interesting, you know, like Dick Jack said.
We've been asked, we've been asked, people are asking us to cut the video out because it's too disturbing to them.
So I guess they're, they're definitely agreeing with Jackson.
You can just show us, you can just show us still.
But actually, what we could also show, which is separately from the video, which, and by the way, that's my entire point because the people who were like hating on me, and this, this went viral.
This, we got written up in international media over this.
And I had all these, these, I call them the stranger simps.
All the stranger simps were coming at me saying, oh no, it's just, you know, it's just like the scene in Alien.
Don't you understand?
They're they're just doing a bit from Alien.
I said, well, you understand that the movie Alien is meant to represent male rape.
And it's an R-rated movie.
Alien is an R-rated movie.
And they're called the facehuggers in Alien are meant to represent male rape because it's sort of this creature that grabs onto your face, injects its sperm spore, whatever into your body.
Then they become pregnant and then the pregnancy kills you.
So it was written, and the writers of the original Alien movie have come out and said this, that that's exactly what they intended.
They were pro-abortion and they thought that if they could put this into the film, that it would make men perhaps more open to being pro-choice if they understood what it was like to be raped and then get pregnant.
Again, go look at the actual writers of Alien.
That's what they said.
Like, I'm not making this up.
So for people saying, oh, it's just like the Alien scene, yeah, I know.
I understand what an homage is.
That's what they're doing.
But what I do want to also point out, though, is, and let's talk about some of the B-roll here, guys.
Throw up, where is it?
Where is it?
Where is it?
Throw up just some of this B-roll 344.
Just throw up 334 as B-roll while we're talking.
Because, and some of this other stuff, because you can see in 334 and 339, 340, just scroll through those, because there are numerous tie-ins to children's action figures, children's happy meals, children's toys where they are clearly marketing this show towards children.
I think that last one was that was just the Teenage Ninja Turtles.
No, it wasn't.
It's like a crossover.
Okay.
It's like a crossover.
Yeah, no, but you know, I think the point is, because I only watched season one, so I'm a little behind on Stranger Thing.
I thought it was cool, love the synth music, retro 80s, but it was like the kids were really, really young.
It kind of had this like it was like a kid's, you were watching the world through these kids' eyes and being terrified at this stranger thing that was kind of creeping into their reality.
But it, and I, again, I could be misremembering, but it seemed completely appropriate for like a little, slightly older children to watch with their parents.
There was some like violence, but you know, that's, that's, that's probably as much as season one was.
Some adult themes, but it was like, it was basically you're following around these kids in their lived experience right around as they grew up.
Agree with Andrew, but Andrew, the point is, is that this scene is meant, you know, it's a flashback to season one.
So it's almost like the writer.
So it's like Netflix came in basically.
Woke Flix came in and was like, no, season one was too family friendly.
So we want you to watch season one knowing that this is what actually happened right before season one, right?
So the kid gets, or I guess Doring, because the kid gets Will, this is the name of his character, who's now gay Luke Skywalker.
He goes missing.
And throughout all of season one, they're trying to find Will.
Well, now we found out this is what was happening to Will.
He was being raped by gay Darth Vader the entire time.
Yeah, it ruins it.
It like makes it totally ruins it.
It ruins everything.
They ruined it.
Is this worse?
Is the first five seconds of this season of Stranger Things worse than the last episode of what do you call it on HBO that ruined the Sopranos?
No, the Game of Thrones.
Well, I mean, Game of Thrones wasn't.
So the thing is worse, the last five minutes of the last episode of Game of Thrones or the first five minutes of The Stranger Thrones.
The thing about Game of Thrones is that stuff that was like the last five seasons of it, essentially.
No, really, the last three seasons.
Two or three seasons.
Well, so this, this, for me, for me, if people are like, why is Jack commenting on this stuff all of a sudden?
It's kind of like this is sort of return to form for me because my original Twitter account and I had a blog going back in like 2012 through 2016 was all about ripping on Game of Thrones.
I did a blog called The Angry GOT fan.
And so that was our focus the entire time was basically attacking HBO for what they were doing with Game of Thrones.
And so this is a little bit return to form because now I'm the Angry Stranger Things fan, I guess.
Way before a Critical Drinker, by the way, way before a Critical Drinker.
Although I love that guy, I think he's, I think he's phenomenal what he does.
So, so, Jack, you mentioned that this is kind of like pedophilia, grooming.
Like, this is, you know, this is what some people are observing.
This is as a warning, but it's like, it occurs to me that the entire show is now in hindsight being 2020, is just one giant grooming exercise.
Because what I said, I've never watched you into a show.
Because Stranger Things just clearly seems to be, I said it was a sissy hypno program to turn you gay.
And I kind of suspect all three of you guys.
Your instincts were proven right there.
Well, Sam, I have never watched.
No, Blake, Blake, I will unfortunately and begrudgingly admit that Blake was probably right about this.
But there is, do we have any of the okay, no, we don't have it here in these clips.
There's a clip now in, so this is what's crazy, right?
This is what they set it up with.
There's a new clip in the very last episode of this, you know, current, um, the current episodes that have been released, where basically Will, the gay Luke Skywalker, and this is why I call him gay Luke Skywalker, because now he then talks to his lesbian friend, uh, Robin, Rock and Robin, and she tells him that it's okay to be gay and you should just embrace your gayness.
Do we do a game?
We have it.
Oh, we have the clip.
Okay, I see it now.
I see it now.
334.
Sorry, guys.
334.
She just looked perfect.
So god perfect.
And it was right then and there that I knew she was the one that with Tammy, I would finally be able to be myself, you know, all of myself.
Because there was always this part of me that kind of scared me, you know?
But I thought that if Tammy loved me, all of me, you know, I wouldn't be so scared anymore.
And then he showed up.
Steve the hair, Harrington.
Oh, God.
You probably can't guess the rest.
And that's when it hit me.
It was never about Don't have Nam.
It was always just about me.
I was looking for answers in somebody else, but I had all the answers.
Just needed to stop being so god scared.
Again, that music you heard in the background was not synth wave.
It was the undulations of the sissy hypno burrowing into your brain.
You guys just, you gave into it for fun.
Blake is right.
Blake is totally right.
So, so what happens right?
What I was referring to is, and I see what's going on.
Right after that, Will has this sequence where he decides to embrace himself and then he is able to exhibit, you know, basically like force-like powers the same way that Darth Vader does.
So gay Darth Vader and gay Luke Skywalker both have these force powers now and are able to use them to fight each other.
Hold on, I guess like gay Darth Vader kind of use the force on him, if you get what I mean.
Oh, man.
Oh, no.
Oh, yeah, that's dirty.
That's very dirty.
So, but what you said is interesting, Jack.
You said that you said it as they have to, because she said it in that clip where I just had to embrace me.
So you, and you were saying Will had to embrace himself and he gets these powers.
But like, isn't that just some sort of like subliminal, subliminal license to be entirely narcissistic, to just be completely obsessed with self, to worship self, to yeah, that's okay.
I'm just making sure that like it's that on the nose.
No, it's, it's that on the nose, the entire thing.
And so he, he gives in and they've been playing.
And well, and I will tell you, by the way, that the, and this is, so the full season hasn't been released.
So the sequence that they specifically mention, not just giving into self, but it shows him growing up with another boy and as they're very young.
So this idea that they're trying to imply is that he's been romantically, sexually attracted to his best friend all along.
And there's a theory that a lot of people have been talking about.
Prusser Foz, you know, totally agrees, by the way, you should definitely get him on this episode, where, you know, it almost seems like they're playing it out that he and the best friend boy are going to kiss or are going to have some kind of relationship or something like that.
So not only are they going back and recasting season one, it's like they're going back and recasting the entire show to be about child abuse, this weird pedophilic scene with gay Darth Vader and now just about embracing gayness.
So it really goes back to like what a lot of people have been warning about Netflix and that movie cuties and a lot of things that Netflix does to just take stuff and then wokeify the heck out of it.
Are we going to get a scene, you think, in the season finale where maybe like the two boys will like make out with each other and then they'll go, like, maybe someday this racist country will have a first black president and he could make gay marriage legal.
Yeah, literally.
He'll be like gay marriage.
That doesn't make sense.
And they'll say like, we can make it make sense.
Yes, we can.
And then it will fade out.
Literally the drama hope poster.
That is not credits.
Yeah, they'll meet another boy who comes in to help them in the final battle, right?
And they're like, what's your name?
I go by Barry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's Barry.
He's an exchange student from Hawaii.
I go by Barry.
I see a student from Hawaii, right?
You know, it's so, but Jack, just sorry to belabor the point, but are they saying that homosexuality is just self-narcissism?
So I don't think so because I don't think they're that self-aware.
I think they're, I think the general message is that being homosexual is good, that you should follow your heart, do whatever you feel like.
Your impulses are all that matters.
Your urges are all that matters.
Do whatever feels right and you be you.
And this, you know, if you watch a lot of Netflix, we know that Netflix has a huge LGBTQ section.
We know that they inject these storylines into property after property over and over again.
And I think it's, I don't think it's, I don't think they're trying to be that on the nose.
I think they literally think it's good writing, which it's not, obviously.
What I do find interesting, though, is I don't know if there might be, and Blake, you might, you know, I'd like to get your take on this.
It almost feels a little subversive too, because again, they're showing that the child who was the first one to be abused by Vecna then later goes on to become gay.
So it's like, what, what, what mean?
What, what mean, Netflix?
So it's like, it's like, is there some guy who's like in the background, like, who's actually like closetly, you know, closetly like conservative, who's like, what if we, what if we had Vecna abuse him and everyone just kind of went along with it, but he actually is like putting a subliminal message inside the, you know, underneath that, that overt message.
Like a Straussian kind of thing.
Maybe.
I just think it's all sensitive.
That's a glass half full.
That's a glass half full take on it.
After your op-ed, you might be.
Well, yeah.
I actually have it.
I say it in the very end of my op-ed.
Like, or maybe is there like an extra little extra little something going on there?
Because I don't know that we have stats on this that are provable.
Maybe we do.
I should look them up.
But like, do we have stats on, you know, if it's a percentage of people that are, that are, that are self-described, like they were abused as a child that then.
So in the op-ed, I did research for this.
I did, I did look this up and there was a Vanderdilt study from 2022 that said, that found that hetero, or excuse me, homosexual adults reported instances of child abuse at a three to four times higher rate than the heterosexual population.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's, well, maybe you're right then.
Maybe there is some weird tie-in.
Maybe, maybe the writers, some writer in the writer's room looked up the same stat that you just referenced in your op-ed.
One could and so they're trying to like kind of like sneak it in, which obviously, because obviously it's totally at odds with everything that the characters are saying, you know, embrace yourself, just be yourself, whatever, whatever.
But also, you know, it's like, it's kind of contradictory because we don't see him, you know, being like this before the abuse scene.
We only see it after.
Foz just dropped something in the chat that convinced me that this is really just like a the whole like stranger things is five seasons or whatever is just like a gay fifth sixth sense uh because in 335 we have a clip maya hawk says she wouldn't exist if her parents hadn't aborted her sibling like that i mean this is this is dark 335.
This is really dark and on with this really beautiful essay about Uh, her abortion that she got when she was really young, and about how, if she hadn't have had it, she wouldn't have become the person that she'd become and I wouldn't exist, and how both of my parents lives would have been totally derailed and she hadn't had access to safe and legal health care fundamental health care and I, of course, like wealthy people, will always be able to get abortions, But so many people, because of this ruling this week,
will not only not be able to pursue their dreams, but actually lose their lives and be unsafe.
Was she seated on that in like a dark?
Was she seated cross-legged on that?
I didn't miss that.
I think she had her leg under her.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's a little odd.
That reminds me of that Pramala Jayapal tweet where she was like, abortion is healthcare.
Full stop.
And then she just got ratioed into oblivion.
A really dark thing.
A lot of people on the abortion topic, what's clear is a very common normie sentiment on abortion is you're not killing a separate human being.
It's just, I guess, you know, we have DND in Stranger Things I've heard, Dungeons and Dragons.
They think it's just if you get an abortion and then have a kid later, you just, you re-rolled their stats.
You, you just, you rolled the dice for a different kid.
The kid, same kid came back.
They're just different.
Yeah, that's the wishful thing.
Thank you.
Like you really only killed someone, maybe if like you never have a kid at all.
But otherwise, yeah, you're just re-rolling their stats.
No, this is something where, and by the way, so there's another angle to all this as well.
Do you guys know about the Warner Brothers deal?
Haven't heard about that.
No, what?
You guys, Andrew, have you heard of this all the big acquisition that's going on?
Oh, yeah.
Something about it.
Yeah, vaguely.
Yeah.
So Warner Brothers Discovery is currently up for sale.
And what's really interesting is that Warner Brothers Discovery is also the parent company of things like CNN, HBO, like all this stuff.
Right.
And so one of the top bidders for this is Netflix.
So they're coming in with like this Netflix, which is known for being one of the wokest, you know, organizations on the planet.
One of the wokest things that they have is, you know, this is where, you know, where all of every, pretty much every show they get, they're either going to put something woke in there, they're going to make a lot of children's content, including gay characters, including LGBT characters.
There was one, it was like a, this was about a couple, I remember it was a couple of months ago where it was like just two nights and they just started being gay all of a sudden for no reason.
This is where one of the, this is where, of course, QDs came out, which was just a straight up pro-pedophilia movie based in France.
And I believe, if I remember correctly, there was a writer, what was that show?
Paranormal Park, I think, where they had trans characters.
And I think the creator of it was actually attacking Charlie, like making fun of Charlie after he was killed, was another Netflix show.
I forget exactly what he said, but it was, I remember that being another Netflix show with a trans character.
And so imagine, if you will, right, how we would have to respond if Netflix all of a sudden got in charge of like the Looney Tunes at Warner Brothers, got in charge of like Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
And also, by the way, WB also owns like what else?
All of the DC superheroes.
So like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, who I believe they already made gay in Warner Brothers, The Flash, et cetera.
I'm not sold on this making a big difference.
I mean, we already have an example of beloved characters getting taken over by a turbo gay company and it's called the Disney Corporation.
They've made a lot of stuff really gay.
They didn't get anything.
But you're just proving my point, though, that if Netflix gets this, you know, it takes over Duncan Brown.
My guess is Warner Brothers has like heaps of big gay.
I just don't think we're going to see a lot of gay Bugs Bunny because when was the last time you saw anything related to Bugs Bunny?
I guess they made a lot of money.
My kids watch Bugs Bunny all the time.
My kids watch Bugs Bunny every day, like every single day.
They love it.
Are they making new Looney tunes or do we just have the old Looney tunes?
They are making new ones.
There's new ones.
Yeah, there's new ones.
There's new Looney Tunes.
All right.
There's new ones.
There's a whole new, there's a whole new show where it's like it's got like an overarching plot, basically, you know, where they, you know, the characters kind of, the storylines like flowing.
We have epic arcs about Bugs Bunny.
The epicist.
Bugs Bunny's going on at Buildings Roman.
Bugs Bunny is following the cup of other.
So the other angle of this, there's two other companies right now that I think are in a bidding war over Warner Brothers.
And so that's, I'm just saying, like, if Netflix gets in, like, I'm coming for it.
Like, this is insane.
This is completely insane.
And I can't imagine how you do this.
The other two companies are Comcast, which honestly, I'm obviously not a huge fan of since they run, excuse me, Emmeth Now.
And then Paramount, which is interesting because Paramount, of course, yeah, they have Paramount Plus and they have Yellowstone, which, of course, I've been quite outspoken on.
But they did also just, you know, take over CBS News.
They gave that to Barry Weiss.
So it, you know, it seems like they're trying to at least do something to differentiate themselves there.
Jack, you're going to love this.
Netflix would be insane.
You're going to love this.
They are, too.
They are, Jack.
It's that they're quietly moving to their right over there with CBS.
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Zuzu's Pedals points out Netflix got a lot gayer when Obama got on the board, presumably right after saving those kids in Indiana at the end of season five of Stranger Things.
I canceled Netflix three months ago, and so should you.
That's such a good point.
And you're right.
It totally slipped my mind as we were having the conversation that Obama is, I don't know if he's on the board specifically, but they have a major, major deal between Barack, Michelle Obama.
I thought he was on the board of Netflix.
He definitely got a huge contract to make those documentaries that I was looking up.
No, it's documentaries and feature films.
They did the whole thing with Julia Roberts about like the, it was like, what was like an energy wave kind of thing, like crashes and, you know, everyone loses patents.
It's like the end of the world one.
Yeah, yeah.
Susan Rice got on the board of Netflix.
Susan Rice.
Well, okay, so basically Obama, like Susan Rice is Obama.
The appendix.
So that's what it was.
Susan Rice gets on the board.
But the Obamas, the Obamas are clearly deeply in bed with it.
So how do they think we're going to react if the Obamas then take, like, imagine if the Obamas have a direct line to controlling CNN and controlling like everything the WB does.
It's like, no, that's, I, I would go to war over that.
I would 100% go to war over that.
It's leave the world behind.
That was leave the world behind.
That's it.
Yeah, he made that.
And by the way, by the way, everybody, I remember all those conspiracy theories about how, you know, what did they know?
Did they know something was going to happen?
And then there was the scene where all the Teslas, which people thought was like an intentional dig at Elon Musk because all the Teslas get taken over by some mysterious power or force or alien beings and they just start crashing all these Teslas.
I'm telling you, this is absolutely the Obamas are trying to take over media.
They are trying to take over a media empire.
They've already done it with Netflix, which by the way, I'd love, because I think Stranger Things started like almost 10 years ago.
So that was before the Obama partnership.
So before Susan Rice is on the board, before they had the Obama partnership, he was still president when it started, or certainly when they were making the show.
But now, right?
Now they're required to do all this extra stuff.
So they even have to go back to season one and make it all gay.
And in fact, actually, one thing that's really interesting, it just occurred to me as well.
They've also caught Netflix stealth editing Stranger Things where they will, because it's a streaming service, right?
So you don't have DVDs of it.
So they'll go back and they've actually like slightly edited certain characters and certain storylines as the show is going.
So if you go back and watch season one right now, yeah, yeah, there was a whole scene where one character was kind of like a peeping tom of the character.
Jonathan was peeping on Nancy and they like basically like re-edited the whole sequence so that he was just sort of like outside, but didn't mean to be looking in or something.
So yeah, there's the guy with the shutter camera.
And so they re-edited it.
So if you go back in season one and look at it now to do a rewatch, it's like, it's like a slightly different, you know, a slightly different narrative.
Wow.
So Jack, on a scale of one to 10, how big is this story worldwide?
I mean, it's the number one show in the world right now.
It is the number one show.
Don't and don't think for a second that lots of kids are not watching it because they are.
And it's something honestly where it people say like, oh, why do you care?
Just don't watch.
It's like, no, guys, we actually do have to pay attention to how the masses are being propagandized.
And that's exactly what's going on here.
Oh, I totally.
The issue, you know, the issue that I would also, this is why we talk about the Super Bowl so much and why we're doing this, the, the, put, the, uh, the, the sporting event halftime show later, uh, you know, later next year.
Yay, sports.
And yay, sports.
And I would also add, you know, I'd also add that, you know, you, you have to know what you're up against because millions of people who make decisions in politics, who make decisions in media, who then go on to just just exist in the world, they are now all going to have this mental model.
This will be the mental model that they are given.
This is where most people get their stories from.
That's where they get their beliefs from.
It's where they get their history from.
It's from watching movies.
There's no more powerful instrument in the entire world, movies, TV shows, dreaming, et cetera, that people get this from than here.
And that's why I call it out.
That's what, whether it's Game of Thrones 10 years ago or gosh, almost 14 years ago when I started doing that to Netflix now, to Star Wars back when they were doing that and they were making everything crazy.
Disney got really mad at me over the Star Wars thing.
Actually, Ryan Johnson as well, who was the writer of the second Disney Star Wars movie, because I pointed out that in the Disney Star Wars films, all the heroes were this like diverse band of rebels and all of the villains were white men.
Every single one was a white man and all of the heroes were not.
And of the heroes who were white men or the one straight white woman, they were all killed one by one from the old movies.