J6 Pipe Bomber "Anarchist' Arrested & DHS Confirms ICE Is On The Ground In Minneapolis
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We're live on Real America's Voice, and we just finished the press conference where the FBI, the Department of Justice, they all came in.
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They all made this arrest of Brian Cole, who we're told is the suspect.
Now, not a lot of information was revealed of this case.
The only piece that we have so far, at least confirmed by deputy director, was that this was pre-existing information.
You also heard the attorney general say that this was information that had been collecting dust.
I want to go now to our in-guest studio, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, who joins us now.
You guys may know him as the Raw Egg Nationalist.
What's up, brother?
It's great to be with you, Jack.
And I think I'm sitting in your seat today.
Indeed, you are.
You're sitting in my seat today.
We are in separate studios, but yes, that is one of my studios right there.
Very nice.
What do you make of what we know so far about this bomber?
We're waiting to get confirmation on an official photo.
I don't know if one has been released yet, but we did hear from multiple sources now about potential anarchist writings that were associated with the individual who would have been about 25 or 26 around the time of this bombing.
Yeah, so they're not, they haven't released a huge amount of information about this suspect yet, but the information that has been released shouldn't really surprise us.
You know, people are already talking on Twitter about the family business, which appears to be related to bail bonds for immigrants.
And, you know, then there's also this material, this potentially these anarchist these anarchist writings.
So it looks like actually maybe what we're dealing with is something akin to a false flag.
And, you know, that was suggested from the very beginning, actually, you know, that there were that there were leftist agitators involved in the events of January the 6th.
And, you know, really what I think it tells us is that we need to go back and we need to look at January 6th again.
We still don't know the full story.
We still don't know exactly what was going on.
You know, we still don't know who the FBI's confidential informants were who were on the ground.
And I think it was, you know, there were dozens on the ground that day.
But we also don't know actually whether, you know, there really were elements of a leftist false flag taking place.
Well, and look, you know, there's all of that needs to be discussed because now when we see these reports about anarchist writings, we see these reports.
And remember, this was someone who we knew had attacked not just the RNC, but also the DNC.
So someone who clearly perhaps had an axe to grind with both parties isn't necessarily a member of a mainstream political movement.
And that does actually fit the profile of someone who we would see as an anti-government or an anarchist, anti-fascist, extremist, where that is exactly how they look.
Now, you know, we're going through, and I'm trying to pull up on CNN or FBI, whether any more information is coming out on this.
He's been charged at this point of using an explosive device.
We only have that grainy surveillance footage.
And again, what we do see, though, is that it seems that the home that he was living in, and I believe we have a shot of the home where he was living, that this seems to be an affluent individual.
Those home prices in that area, Northern Virginia, just outside of Washington, D.C., are very, very high.
And so, Dr. Cornish Dale, what do you make of the idea that this could have been the son of a fairly wealthy upper-middle-class family?
Is that a profile that we've seen before anywhere?
Yeah, yeah, no, it's a profile we all should be familiar with.
I mean, I think that what we're seeing is, yeah, I mean, we're seeing a familiar pattern from history.
I mean, it's these leftist agitators, these anarchist agitators, you know, a lot of them aren't from the lumpen proletariat, as it were.
You know, they're not the lowest of the low.
They're actually potentially educated people.
They're people from wealthy backgrounds, and yet they share in, you know, the sort of the leftist goal, the leftist dream of leveling society.
So, no, I mean, it shouldn't, it shouldn't be a, it shouldn't be a surprise at all to us if it does turn out that actually this is somebody who is from an affluent background.
You know, I mean, Luigi Mangioni, he wasn't from a poor background.
That's exactly who I was thinking of.
Yeah.
So, you know, I mean, yeah, we're seeing a pattern emerge and not just a kind of longer-term pattern, but even just a pattern within the last year or so from Luigi Mangione.
It's the same kinds of people carrying out these crimes.
You know, and more attention needs to be paid to them by law enforcement, I think.
I mean, it's, you know, these are preventable.
A lot of these are preventable crimes.
I think law enforcement needs to get ahead of them because there are going to be more.
I mean, that's one thing we can say.
You know, there are going to be more attacks like this, more attempts to assassinate political figures, more attempts to plant pipe bombs, more attempts to spread terror and confusion.
And also, perhaps, as with this pipe bombing attack, maybe to sow dissension, maybe to kind of try to implicate the right actually in the left's scheme to overturn society.
possibly or even just saw it as a target of opportunity, knew that there would be, what did we know, right?
What do we know?
We knew that on January 6th, prior to that, that there would be a large gathering of Trump supporters in Washington, D.C. on that day.
And so it certainly could have been just from the basics of it, certainly could have been an attempt to target those individuals who were, you know, who were marching around.
I was personally there that day.
I was in and around the Capitol.
I was down at the ellipse.
I went, walked up to the war room with Steve Bannon and sat down at the table and then went back, was walking down Capitol Hill right as the, now, of course, the pipe bombs didn't go off, but I did see the stun grenades and the flashbangs thrown by the Capitol Police on January 6th as the crowd was peaceful, which led to much confusion and all of the pushing and shoving.
And we saw how that spiraled out of control.
So, you know, we certainly knew that it was going to be a rough situation, a target of opportunity potentially for someone.
That's why a lot of people had speculated just going into it that there could be some agitators, some Antifa.
Typically, when, as a guy who's held his fair share of Trump rallies and Trump events in Washington, D.C., typically we do almost always get some kind of Antifa counter-protest, counter-response.
But it was always very interesting to me that there weren't any public or outward signs of Antifa anywhere at January 6th.
No, well, I mean, look, it's not actually that difficult to dress up as a Trump supporter, is it?
You don the MAGA hat, you put a MAGA hat on, you're a Trump supporter.
And so it's not like an elaborate disguise isn't required actually to blend in.
And I do seem to remember that there were people talking on Reddit about, you know, going to the Capitol and causing trouble.
And that's right.
Wasn't there a bit, it was like wear your hat backwards or wear it upside down or something like that.
That was going to be a thing.
Yes.
Yes, there was.
So I mean, yeah, I mean, I think it stands to reason that there probably were leftist agitators there.
It's a great way.
It's a great way to generate negative publicity.
It's a great way to discredit people, is to associate them with political violence.
And it doesn't take much to infiltrate a MAGA rally just by wearing a MAGA hat.
And this is what leftists do.
This is what leftists do.
And by the way, in fact, we should, one of the questions, and I wasn't at the press conference today, but if I were, I would love to know whether or not they had identified, did this individual, and is there any evidence that he late then, because this was done late in the evening of January 5th.
So is there any evidence that he himself went and then participated in the march at all on January 6th?
What was he up to the day after when presumably he was expecting either these bombs number one to go off or number two to be used as some sort of distraction?
And there are some questions about how exactly these phone calls and the identification of them came in.
But let's take it out more broadly here because there is a problem in this country and in the United States and in your country, the UK, and really across all of the West right now, of leftist violence that seems to be a theme that a lot of the mainstream, despite horrific acts of violence, has yet to actually pick up one.
And it's one where people seem to just, they see one of these actions and then they feel bad about it for a little while and they just move on.
Why is it that we haven't really seen that narrative being taken over by the mainstream?
Yeah, it's interesting.
You know, I mean, a lot of people still think that Charlie Kirk's killer, Tyler Robinson, wasn't a leftist.
You know, I mean, there was polling done recently, I think, that showed that a very, you know, a small minority of people of Americans actually think that Charlie Kirk's killer was a leftist when it's obvious he was a leftist.
You know, all the evidence points to him being a leftist.
And you only need to actually look at the nature of the crime itself and to what it's achieved, which is to sow complete chaos on the right and to make it much, much harder for the right in the US to organize.
You know, I mean, it's impossible really to overemphasize just how important Charlie Kirk was to the future of populism, to the future of the right in America.
I mean, he was a star.
He was going to be working for 20, 30 more years with this unparalleled network that he'd created, with his personal charisma, with his drive and dedication and sense of mission.
And they killed him, and it's thrown the American right into chaos, into infighting.
And that's exactly what you do.
If you're committed to political violence, as the left is, that's what you do.
You target the major figures, you target the key players.
You assassinate them, you degrade your opponent's capability to organize.
So it stands to rights that a leftist would, you know, this is what a leftist would do.
And then we have all this information about Tyler Robinson's trans boyfriend, girlfriend, his furry obsession, the kind of things that he's looking at on the internet, the kind of person he just seems to be.
And yet, for some strange reason, despite all the other acts of leftist terrorism that we're witnessing as well, and that actually have been forgotten.
So, you know, I harp on about something that happened in February quite a lot.
This chap called Ryan Michael English, a transgender male, tried to kill the Treasury Secretary Scott Besant.
He went to the Capitol with Molotov cocktails.
He had a manifesto or writings in his possession.
And he said that he wanted to kill Scott Besant.
He wanted to burn down the Heritage Foundation.
He had a long list of conservative, right-wing Trump targets.
And that's just been completely forgotten.
And I find it very strange, actually, that people aren't joining the dots here, because there's a very clear pattern that's emerged.
It's exactly the pattern you would expect.
This isn't surprising, but nonetheless, only a minority of people really seem to understand the nature of the situation that America is in right now.
And it's quite strange, and I wonder why as well this exists, because it seems that there is an issue of scale, I suppose.
But there's something that there's a piece that you wrote before about what it is specifically about the trans movement.
You wrote this for humanevents.com and trans individuals, where they view the things that Charlie was saying and the things that Trump is doing to ban and get rid of trans, specifically it's the bans on child gender manipulation, this gender surgery, that you viewed as an actual precursor and a catalyst to violent action.
Yes, well, I think what you have to understand is that every kind of society, every kind of social grouping wants to reproduce itself.
The normal way for people to reproduce is biologically, is through having sex and having children.
But that isn't how the trans movement, that isn't how the trans grouping reproduces itself.
Transgender people reproduce themselves through gender reassignment surgery and taking hormones.
That's how you get more trans people.
That's how you continue the trans movement, is you get people to have surgery, you get people to have medical interventions.
And so what's happening is Trump is banning or placing a moratorium on these medical procedures.
And suddenly it means you don't get more trans people.
You certainly don't get more trans children and trans teenagers.
So I think you have to understand that transgender people are already heavily, heavily radicalized.
They're among probably the most radical leftists.
And now what you've got is you've got the Trump administration taking away their means of reproduction.
So it's an existential crisis for them.
It is actually an existential threat.
And so that's why these people are, I think, the most dangerous of the radical leftists in America today, because they're actually, they feel they are facing an existential threat.
And you know, they say trans people are being murdered by Nazis and what they actually mean.
They talk about the transgenocide that's going on that no one can seem to point to or find or see.
And it's not that transgender people are being killed.
It's that transgender people are being prevented from coming into existence because they can't have these radical surgeries.
And so, you know, I said at the beginning, you know, the beginning of the Trump administration, this is the demographic that we need to watch.
This is where the real, the hardcore killers, the kind of leftist jihadis are going to come from, because they're the ones who have the most to lose from the Trump agenda.
Well, and the instability that's inherent there, which is something, and I've said it again and again, that if you go back to the great horror writers and horror, the movies even used to understand this.
Silence of the lambs, who is the killer?
Who is Buffalo Bill?
Buffalo Bill is trans.
He's trying to make a, literally change his skin to that of a woman.
And that is why he is killing women.
That's why you're putting the lotion on the skin, right?
So he can cut your skin off and wear it as a skin suit.
Psycho, Norman Bates, the dead mother, where he then tries to turn himself into his mother.
Again, this trope has been around for years and years because there's something about the psychology there that is inherently lethal and inherently brutal.
The rejection of self, the rejection of reality.
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He has a new book out that's very interesting because we're talking about, so let's go back to Tyler Robinson, right?
Someone who is a committed leftist, someone who is in a homosexual relationship with a man that was transitioning, someone who was a furry.
And Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, Dr. Cornish Dale, is there any type of name that you would ascribe to this sort of man that would do something like that?
Yeah, well, I mean, I would imagine he is a low testosterone individual, certainly.
And, you know.
Possibly one of the last men.
Yeah, one of the last men indeed.
One of the last men of the title of the book, which is The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity.
You know, who is The Last Man?
Well, The Last Man is a character taken from the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, popularized much more widely by Francis Fukuyama in his end of history thesis.
And in my book, then The Last Man is this kind of archetypal modern man who has low testosterone, who is probably left-wing rather than right-wing.
And, you know, a big part of the book actually is talking about how testosterone is associated with political affiliation.
There are studies, there are lots of studies in social psychology, for example, that suggest that men with higher testosterone have greater in-group preference, for example.
So in-group preference is basically, let's say, a preference for your own tribe.
So the kind of civilizational collapse that we're seeing in testosterone levels across the Western world really probably does have aggregate political effects.
And one of those aggregate political effects may be to drive people, especially men, towards the left or certainly away from the right, away from trusting what would be their natural instincts that would be fostered by testosterone, which would be to be patriotic, to show in-group preference, to accept hierarchy.
That's another thing that's associated with testosterone is hierarchy.
So hormones are political.
It doesn't really get said enough.
And that's something that I'm trying to correct in the book.
I'm trying to say, look.
Just to throw out a piece of information that might back this up, in some of the leaked information that's come out on this relationship that Tyler Robinson was in with his gay lover, Lance Twiggs, was that one of the former friends, former roommates of them had mentioned that Twiggs was taking something called black market HRT or black market hormone replacement therapy.
And there's a variety of Chinese examples of this that I've dug into, certainly not that I've tried myself, but that are apparently very easy to procure online.
And they do describe his downward spiral as associating with a rise in the more he took, seem, the more he took these things, the more leftist he became.
Yeah, I mean, that is totally believable.
And, you know, I was talking about this, this, how transgender people reproduce.
Well, one of the ways they reproduce is through the use of hormones, through the use of estrogen if you're transitioning from male to female and testosterone if you're going the other way.
And, you know, radical leftists, radical transgender people use websites like Reddit not only to organize politically, but also actually to organize the distribution of, like you say, these black market hormonal treatments because it's essential for their reproduction for people who believe they're transgender or people who've been led to believe that they're transgender to take these hormones.
And yeah, absolutely.
I mean, hormonal dysfunction is driving leftism, I believe.
And it's worth mentioning actually as well.
You know, I mean, we tend to associate aggression because of kind of pop culture, pop science, we tend to associate aggression with testosterone.
But actually, aggression is also associated with estrogen.
Estrogen modulates aggression in very, very interesting ways.
If you give monkeys, if you give male macaques estrogen, they will become basically in-cell monkeys.
There's a very funny study about this where they gave male macaques estrogen from soy and it turned them into basically passive aggressive kind of in-cell monkeys.
They would retreat from their fellow monkeys in the troop and become more aggressive, more kind of bitchy.
So it's wrong, I think, to think that, you know, just because if these people are taking estrogen, they don't.
It's a different type of aggression.
It's more of this angry, like clawing at you kind of aggression.
Dr. Cornishdale, I'd love to chat more.
We're just out of time.
Show us the book again.
Tell us where to get it.
Yeah, The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity.
It's available for pre-order from Amazon.com right now in hardback and audio book format, releasing December the 16th.
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Very excited to have now the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, Trisha McLaughlin, joins us.
Tricia, how are you?
Hey, Jack, I'm great.
How are you?
Doing well.
Now, obviously, I know we just saw the DOJ's press conference there regarding the capture of this suspected pipe bomber.
Wanted to ask from your perspective on the DHS side, because the Secret Service falls under your purview, are you able to tell us if DHS played a role in this investigation?
Homeland Security investigations did play some role, but I have to give full credit to Kash Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi.
They really led the team and the administration on this.
So they deserve full credit, though.
Our Homeland Security investigations team did lend a hand.
Well, of course.
And obviously with any federal activity in Washington, D.C., I certainly know from personal experience, there's always a lot of overlapping footprints, especially there on Capitol Hill, where every agency kind of has, you know, quasi-jurisdiction.
It almost goes seed by seed.
And of course, just the way investigations run, different sources might be in one database that pairs up with another database.
And so it's good to hear, by the way, that it sounds like the different agencies are communicating and using that interagency process, which perhaps may have been one of the things that held up this investigation prior to this arrest.
Jack, you're completely correct.
And I will say, when we came into this administration on January 20th, we were saying that all of our intelligence agencies and offices were really operating in silos.
There was little to no information sharing.
We were seeing that there was tons of gaps of information.
And so President Trump, I mean, he brought his cabinet together and really ordered that those silos be broken down.
And we've had unbelievable amounts of information sharing, especially on the immigration front when we're dealing with, especially financial fraud.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bassant has been absolutely phenomenal.
The IRS has been involved.
And so it really has been a whole of government approach.
I can speak about a recent operation out of Virginia, though, that Homeland Security investigations, the FBI, and we really had a whole of government approach and was this individual, he's an Afghan national, and he came in under Biden's Operation Allies Welcome in September of 2021.
Turns out he's a member of ISIS-K.
He's a terrorist.
His father was a commander of a militia in Afghanistan, and yet this individual was allowed into our country.
He was given temporary protected status.
He was arrested yesterday and will no longer be able to terrorize the people of America.
He will face justice.
And so we're really proud of that as an administration because it really was a whole of government approach.
And we're going to get more of these guys out of this country.
Well, that's right.
And ISIS-K, of course, being the ISIS affiliate, primarily associated with Afghanistan and those Central Asian countries, some of the former former Soviet countries up there, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, et cetera, but then also into Afghanistan as well.
They've been trying to get into the United States for quite some time.
But, you know, just cutting back to what you mentioned about the information silos, that was what always made me bang my head against the wall so much when I was in the intelligence community that we'd be working on a problem set and I would need a piece of information because I'm, you know, it's like looking at a puzzle, but you know, you're missing a few pieces.
And then having a very good idea that, you know, it's like I know my five-year-old stole that piece and he hid it somewhere and I want to get it from him.
And I keep asking him where he is.
And he keeps telling me either that he doesn't have that piece or he doesn't know where it is.
And ultimately it would be because people didn't want to share.
And because people in Washington, D.C., particularly in the intelligence community and the national security agencies, they use this to try to burnish their power to keep their fiefdoms going.
And you see a lot of this in the interagency where certain, I'm not going to name any agencies, but certain agencies that are around like to kind of big foot other agencies and play these games.
They just play games.
And ultimately, who suffers are the American people and our national security.
You're completely correct.
And it really is amazing.
As kind of more of an outsider, I was in the first Trump administration, but I'm not a government bureaucrat.
So coming back into the administration under President Trump and seeing how it operates in the intelligence silos, the fact of the matter is it's turf wars.
People don't want to give credit where credit's due.
People don't want to give information that would advance investigations that would help our national security because perhaps themselves or their boss won't get credit.
It won't go to their particular agency.
I think within these really bureaucratic systems that people forget that they're actually serving our nation, our homeland, and that's their ultimate goal is to serve the American people.
I don't know how that gets lost, but it certainly does.
And I think President Trump has done a phenomenal job of bringing back the American people into the forefocus, which is exactly what it should be.
I couldn't agree more.
And that's when I hear the attorney general saying that, hey, this information was collecting dust on the shelf.
It just makes me think, what other pieces of information, what documents are sitting collecting dust on the shelf about people that we don't even know about, people who, by the way, may have come into this country under false pretenses.
Perhaps we used to call that derogatory information or DROG.
And so perhaps that information is actually out there.
For example, you know, we had this information about the radicalization of that Afghan national that came in and then ultimately went and conducted this horrific shooting of our National Guards right there in Washington, D.C.
These were preventable.
These were preventable because they were just not vetted on their way in.
No, they weren't vetted on their way.
And that is astounding to hear.
It's now been within one week, three individuals who have been arrested.
Unfortunately, of course, one of those who took the live of Sarah Beckstrom, an American hero, National Guardsman.
But Jack, the fact of the matter is the Biden administration was virtually doing no vetting when they were allowing almost 200,000 Afghan nationals into this country.
They were not doing biometric data vetting.
They weren't doing social media vetting.
They weren't doing criminal background checks, cyber checks.
They weren't doing financial crime checks.
None of this was happening.
So Secretary Noam really had to overhaul that entire system when they were doing asylum interviews.
They weren't checking in on an annual basis, which should have been happening.
And had that been happening, this individual, as you mentioned, was radicalized while he was in the United States.
He might have been caught.
No, he absolutely might have been caught.
And those checks for coming in would certainly make sense because who would you want to check other than someone who had served with the United States military, who understood, by the way, understood our military SOPs, understood our force protection levels, understood how we operate, understand how we communicate, someone who absolutely is familiar with those things.
So could easily, unfortunately, know how to conduct an attack like this.
And as horrific as it was, you would think that those are the people that the previous administration, if they were going to let them in, would have been watching the closest.
But of course they weren't.
No, you're absolutely right, Jack.
It's really horrifying, especially we know that within the interior of our country, since the start of the administration, we have arrested at least 1,000 known or suspected terrorists.
20 million people came into this country in the past four years under Joe Biden.
Of course, those 190,000 Afghan nationals coming in under Operation Allies, welcome.
And then the millions of individuals who came in with little to no vetting under these parole programs like CHNV or these temporary protected statuses that were just absolutely exploited.
So in that case, it could be illegal or someone who has this, you know, one of these papers that's come in.
That 1,000 number would include both?
No, that would just include those who are in this country illegally.
That doesn't even include those who are.
So you're saying, so there's even separate.
Oh, no.
No, yes.
And that's a huge reason why President Trump has instructed Secretary Noam to give him this list of countries, of which right now there are 19, but we're expecting that to really expand because that vetting was so out of control.
We can't be giving out more immigration benefits.
We have to be really reviewing who's in this country under asylum, under a green card, because if we know that they weren't vetting, there could be far, far more terrorists in this country.
That's exactly right.
Tricia, quick, quick break, because I do want to ask you more about that when we come back from commercial.
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We're on with the Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Tricia McLaughlin.
Trisha, I have to ask you, President Trump, of course, made comments regarding new raids that he's been looking to really emphasize and prioritize regarding Minneapolis, the community up there, this fraud community.
We've seen a lot on Twitter, social media, people saying that this is going on, that this is happening.
What can you tell us about what is happening in specifically this community in Minneapolis?
Well, I can confirm that ICE is on the ground in Minneapolis.
USCIS has been doing an ongoing and really robust investigation, in particular on visa and marriage fraud.
What they found is almost half of immigration cases that they've reviewed have had some sort of fraud or exploitation.
So of course, those are going to be turned over to the Department of Justice for charges and for arrests.
As far as ICE being on the ground there, I actually just looked at a report right as I was getting into the chair, Jack, some really heinous arrests that were just made in the last 24 to 48 hours on the ground there in Minneapolis.
We're talking about multiple child pedophiles, people who do have terrorist ties, people who have been involved in gang and criminal activity, and of course, the fraud and the marriage fraud that we've known and heard about.
Well, and when you look at this community and a number of these communities, it seems like this information was out there, that this information was compiled, the investigators had it, HSI had it, USCIS had it, but it just wasn't getting acted upon, was it?
The same way we just heard from the Attorney General in this case.
No, I think it was a problem of, again, the Biden administration not enforcing the rule of law, them seeing an exploitation of the system and often being a part of that exploitation of the system.
Tim Walz, I mean, either he's complicit or he's an idiot.
I think that he definitely knew about this and has just been in some part involved in this.
The amount of money we've seen, though, the taxpayer dollars paying for this exploitation and really a lot of the criminal activity that we've seen.
There was just actually a report, shockingly out of the New York Times where there are these shell companies that were created to funnel money from government agencies and what should have been social safety nets for American citizens.
Instead, they were being siphoned to through fraud into line individuals' pockets, primarily people who are here on visas.
And unfortunately, that cost the American taxpayers over a billion dollars.
And yet we saw very few arrests under this was happening throughout the Biden administration.
And it's only now that the Trump administration comes into office that people are actually being charged and they're actually going to be brought to justice.
And as crazy as this is, you know, you look at these types of programs that were letting people in unvetted, that there's so much fraud, they're rife with corruption.
And it really seems as though these were just handouts for our country to bring in some of the worst actors in a variety and not just in Minneapolis, but in many of these communities.
Obviously, Ohio, you and I talked about that quite a bit last year where you're from, and so many other of these communities.
It seems as though, to your point, you know, Tim Walz, the governor there, Joe Biden, when he was the president, Mayorkas, when he was the former secretary, I don't think that they were just looking the other way.
I think that they were, and this is just my opinion, I think that this was something that they supported.
And the New York Times, it's amazing, by the way, that the New York Times suddenly finds out about this fraud because all of these cases were going on while Tim Walz was the candidate for the vice presidency last year.
We talked about them here on this show.
I had Liz Collin from Alpha News coming on talking about it when we got to the 57th juror, 57th defendant, and the 58th defendant, and the 59th defendant, as it went on and on and on.
And they were bribing jurors with bags of cash, $120,000 in cash.
Interesting how the New York Times just didn't seem to be interested last year.
No, you're so right.
One of the most important elections of our lifetime, they completely willfully ignored this.
Jack, you make such a good point.
But it's not just out of Minneapolis.
What we saw is the creation of these parole programs that really were just a rubber stamp to let people in.
It was to control the optics from the border.
They created, say, CHNV, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela.
That really just was a rubber stamp to let these people into the country who would have otherwise come through the border illegally.
It was an optics and political play by the Biden administration.
A friend brought it up to me actually and said, this was really just like legalizing murder and saying that you solve the problem of violent crime.
And he's exactly right.
So I think that this is something we first of all stopped these programs, but we also are looking at who was let in here, who hasn't left yet, and getting them the heck out of our country.
Well, it's exactly right.
And, you know, we saw, of course, you know, I'm from Philadelphia.
So I remember the, you know, what they used to do is they would claim that murders were down because they would start scheduling or recategorizing different things as not a homicide.
It was, this is an accidental death.
This was a suicide, or, oh, this actually took place outside the bounds of Philadelphia.
So they would play all these games over and over and over.
And then eventually what we also saw in the Biden administration with the statistics is that some of the large cities, New York, LA, they weren't reporting their homicide data to the FBI so they could walk around and say, murders are down, right?
Because you're not counting them anymore.
And it's something where it's just patently obvious where people could see on the ground.
If you're living in Minneapolis, if you're living in one of these places, Springfield, Ohio, any of these areas, you can see that your quality of life has been severely diminished and you can go and look outside and realize that you are surrounded by, you're just being surrounded by migrants that are in the country under some very vague pretense of being there.
And it's really as simple as that.
And it doesn't surprise me that DHS, that the more you look into these organizations and these situations, you're finding them completely rife with fraudulent claims.
You mentioned, you mentioned, so the 19 countries that are currently on the list, you mentioned there may be plans to expand.
Can you tell us any of the countries?
And if not, can you tell us what are some of the aspects and features that you're looking for of countries that may make it to that list?
Well, Secretary Noam gave President Trump a recommendation.
I believe it was on Tuesday evening.
And so he's looking at that list and he'll be evaluating it.
But Jack, this is a list that was very much created with robust data and analysis.
It's first of all looking, do these governments, do these regimes hate the United States of America?
That should be really what we first look at because to some degree, when individuals are coming from their country of origin to ours, we collect information from those governments.
So if you're trying to collect information from the Taliban on if an individual should be coming into our country or if they serve the American people's best interests, we can ignore what the Taliban says.
That's exactly why President Trump has said we need to be pausing all immigration benefits there.
So we're looking at regimes.
Is this government being run by a terrorist organization?
We can't take the risk of then letting an individual into our country from there.
And then secondly, we're really looking at leading indicators.
What's the likelihood that this individual is going to come into our country and either engage in fraud, criminal activity, or be a public charge?
So using our social safety net as a hammock and really not bringing any benefit to the American people.
And instead, really just using American taxpayer resources that should be going to the American citizen.
Well, that's right.
And in some of these countries, and I remember this coming up in the first admin as well, where people are trying to come in, they don't have good databases.
They don't have biometric data.
They don't have records keeping in many of these parts of the world.
So to say, oh, we checked our databases, we couldn't find any information.
Well, that's because you don't even have a database.
Yeah, it makes no sense.
That's why it really does amaze me every time I've put on CNN or MSNBC or MSN now that there are these talking heads on there saying, oh, these Afghan refugees and those who came into this country under parole were fully vetted.
I can promise you, I think, how the heck?
When you see the chaos, I mean, you can see with your own eyes, it's military-aged men just being shipped in masses into our country.
There's just no question that you can't get it.
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By the way, Assistant Secretary McLaughlin, I want to ask you a quick question, yes or no?
If you lie about marital status during a naturalization process, could that be grounds for denaturalization?
Yes.
Oh, it certainly is.
Thank you so much for joining us here on Human Events Daily.
