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All right, folks, we've seen a ton come out.
President Trump, so many statements regarding Tim Waltz, the Somalians, what's going on, massive fraud in Minneapolis.
Someone who really broke the story on all of this and has been reporting on it intrepidly and doggedly for quite some time is Liz Collin of Alpha News.
Liz joins us now.
Liz, how are you?
Doing well, Jack.
Thanks for having me back on.
Well, I appreciate it.
Liz, what do you make of the president and I believe the DOJ now all announcing that they are going to launch an investigation into this fraud?
Yeah, wow, what a whirlwind it has been.
Minnesota making national news yet again, Jack, just as you said, basically for days at this point, for all the wrong reasons, I should say as well.
But you have originally the New York Times finally acknowledging this rampant extent of fraud in Minnesota over the weekend.
Again, we're talking multi-billions of dollars in fraud through multiple social programs in the state at this point.
We also, interestingly enough, have had this X account that's been public for years now, but it consists of hundreds of state employees.
And this weekend, they solely placed the blame on Governor Tim Walz, very publicly doing so, posting that these Department of Human Services employees, it's about 400 of them that make up this X account, that they went to Governor Walls years ago, hoping for some sort of partnership in stopping this fraud that they were seeing.
You know, a lot of these people are actually writing the checks and doing the checks and balances or trying to do so.
And they saw so many pro so many problems, I should say, brought this forward, and it sounds like their concerns were ignored according to what they're posting on this X account.
Then you have this account deactivated for several hours Monday after calling out the governor specifically, that post being seen tens of millions of times.
And then, yeah, of course, you have President Trump weighing in with some choice words about the governor over the weekend, Elon Musk weighing in on things here in Minnesota.
I think that you kind of see a bit of a sense of relief.
I guess we're going to see if something is actually done.
I think many Minnesota taxpayers are just thankful that some more people here are willing to actually take a look at this.
You know, our reporting does date back years.
In fact, we have an entire page dedicated to fraud over at alphanews.org.
You'll see stories there.
They've been stacking up for years.
But finally, is someone willing to listen?
Will something be done?
That is the question many Minnesota taxpayers, I think, have at this point, Jack.
Well, Liz, this is amazing too, because we've also seen just in the last few days, the New York Times of all places is coming out and reporting a headline that heretofore you would only find at Alpha News, how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system on Tim Waltz's watch.
And what's so interesting about this is, gosh, it just seems the New York Times wasn't able to find out any of this information, you know, during the election, which we just held, where this guy was the vice presidential candidate.
How strange.
Yeah, I remember being on your show, Jack, and talking about fraud.
That was one of the many frauds, you know, I think perpetuated on this governor's watch.
I put out a book three years ago now, it's been.
It's called They're Lying, The Media, the Left and the Death of George Floyd.
Again, who is one of the big they's here in Minnesota?
Well, that would be Governor Tim Walz.
We've talked about before.
It's the 78th defendant charged just last week, 78th in the Feeding Our Future fake meal scheme.
That's gone down as the largest COVID scheme in the country.
The New York Times does some extensive reporting about that.
But you're right, that the timing is very interesting here.
You have Governor Walls running again now for a third term in Minnesota.
Some have publicly called for him to resign in the wake of a lot of this reporting.
So I think we're going to have to see how this all plays out politically.
You have a very crowded Republican field.
Nice to see actually a lot of people willing to jump in to try to do something about this, but certainly a lot of frustration and you see it on so many levels.
But interestingly enough, and I think this is part of the problem here in Minnesota, Jack, that I know I've spoke to you about this before, but you have the mainstream media still in Minnesota.
They have not even reported on this X account at all in these last few days.
And instead, you have these national publications picking up what these state employees in Minnesota are saying and have been saying since October of 2022.
But again, you have that the Star Tribune, Minnesota's largest newspaper, is run by a former Walls commissioner.
You truly cannot make up some of these connections here in Minnesota, but we are seeing that this group specifically on X, they're saying they will not be silenced.
And, you know, thankful to programs like yours for being willing to talk about this and keep it in the spotlight until something changes.
Well, Liz, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there part of the Feeding the Fruit Future investigation?
Because I know there have been multiple cases and trials now in terms of this.
There was a jury bribing, jury tampering scandal as part of this.
Do I have that correct?
Yeah, that's right.
You had $120,000 cash, Jack, left on a juror's doorstep in that trial, left in like a hallmark bag.
And that woman, interestingly enough, we actually just profiled a little piece, just an update on that bribe.
The woman who left that bribe was convicted and she's awaiting sentencing.
has not been imprisoned as a result of that bribe.
Not only that, but she worked for an insurance agency in Minnesota where she went ahead and fraudulently wrote herself a $30,000 check from that agency.
She went on to commit then this Feeding Our Future bribe.
She had a DWI where she left the scene of an accident and some terrible things happened in that.
And she was just, she was picked up finally, I think, after a couple of years, kept in jail for just a few weeks on all of this.
And now she's out again.
And many people are just saying, you know, this is enough.
What has happened to the state that used to take law and order seriously and just how these radical changes made under Governor Walls' watch seem, it seems, to finally have cut up to him.
And the juror in that case, the one they attempted to bribe, was that the person that actually reported it?
She reported it right away, yep, and was taken off that case.
And everybody has returned guilty verdicts on these cases over and over again.
But isn't that wild that somebody who can leave a bribe like this?
And basically this woman then has taken the stand in her trial to say, this is our culture.
Those were her words actually in her case.
This is our culture.
This is what we do as some way to excuse this bribe.
And it's really made a mockery, I think, of the Minnesota justice system as well.
And I think that when you look at this, it really begs the question and it gets to the heart of what President Trump is talking about in terms of the mass importation of this completely separate group from a different part of the world into Minneapolis.
And quite frankly, it is absolutely wreaked havoc among not just from a legal perspective, but just every real system in the entire state and the entire city has just felt a huge downward pressure from this immigration program.
Absolutely.
And I think the George Floyd riots helped to silence in a way much of the population.
How dare you appear to be racist?
We actually heard an assistant U.S. attorney speak to that, how race was weaponized in the Feeding Our Future case, that people wanted to bring this forward earlier, but they would see again and again how it would be Somalis perpetuating this fraud and that it would be tamped down.
You don't want to appear to be racist as the person that is bringing these concerns forward.
Thankfully, I think we've pushed back.
The facts kind of speak for themselves, I think, in these cases that have been tried at this point.
But you do have the president saying that he's going to terminate temporary protected status for Somalis in Minnesota.
And actually, interestingly enough, at this hour, we're streaming a press conference that's objecting to Trump's reported crackdown on illegal Somalis in Minnesota.
So that's happening.
I believe it's happening in Minneapolis City Hall right now.
So again, rather than Liz Collin will be right back.
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Before the break, we were discussing what's happening here in Minnesota as far as the fraud concerns.
And I just wanted to pick up on the conversation I was having with Jack earlier.
Actually, it's a press conference happening right now in Minneapolis, as it seems city leaders have come out in full force to fight President Donald Trump as he is trying to basically zero in on some of these fraud problems in the state.
But just reading from a press conference happening now, Democratic Minneapolis City Council member Jamal Osman calling President Trump at this press conference, again, happening at the moment now, calling President Trump racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic.
This press conference is being held on Trump's Somali immigration crackdown that he has announced.
But what's interesting, in October 2020, Osman himself handed over control of a nonprofit he founded to a group of new owners who then used it in Minnesota's $250 million Feeding Our Future fraud scandal.
So you can certainly see that this is a tangled web in Minnesota and many leaders, so-called leaders in these left-leaning cities like Minneapolis doing everything they can to try to fight President Trump at every turn.
Jack.
Liz Collin, this is, it really represents, I think, and we are back here from the Department of War studio.
And we do see that Minneapolis, Minnesota Department of Human Service Employees X account, the Minnesota DHS, and looking at it, has been suspended, but potentially coming back.
So hopefully X can fix that.
But I do, of course, see, and I'm just pulling it up, I do have to make a slight correction.
It's the Department of Treasury that has launched this investigation.
And we see now that Secretary Scott Besson says that at my direction, U.S. Treasury is investigating allegations that under the feckless mismanagement of the Biden administration and Governor Tim Walsh, hardworking Minnesotans' tax dollars have been diverted to the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab.
This came up on behalf of a Chris Ruffo investigation with City Journal that some of the funds were actually used to fund al-Shabaab, an actual designated terrorist organization, which interestingly enough gets us back to the drone strikes that we were talking about earlier in the program here and says that they're acting based on the potential of the use for terror financing here, which is very important, by the way,
because that gives the government extreme measures to be able to use to go after these operations.
Liz, had you ever, in your reporting, come across any potential connections to these Somalian terrorist groups?
You know, I think that that was something also that didn't come as much of a surprise.
And I say that, Jack, I don't mean to say that offhandedly, but we've heard before and reported before how this money has been funneled to Somalia, has been funneled to Kenya.
And it's long gone by the time that some of these investigators have caught up to the fraud.
And actually, my sources have said that in many cases, some of these folks are willing to actually just go to prison for five or 10 years, serve their time.
And the money's out of the country at this point.
And they have a pretty good system set up for when they do get out.
It may sound crazy to the rest of us, but even a young man who was the 78th defendant sentenced last week, his sentence was about 10 years, which he probably won't serve all of those years.
And he had a long life ahead.
And it was about $47 million or so that he was ordered to pay in restitution.
I have a feeling that that money will not be seen.
And so I don't think that that came as much of a surprise as just how disturbing, obviously, that is.
But also Minneapolis has been, many stories have been in the national news over the years about how this has been, you know, a breeding ground for terrorism.
Many people actually charged with trying to join these terrorist networks and groups, young Somali men.
That has happened many, many times and made the news over the years.
So sadly, again, I think a storyline that we've seen here in Minnesota in the past.
Well, I know.
And it's certainly something where, of course, the federal government and the Department of Treasury are going to get involved because now they're able to look at these foreign transfers and say, wait a minute, this isn't just people sending money back to their families.
If they're sending money that's potentially going towards the funding of a designated foreign terrorist organization, then there are extremely large powers and capabilities at the Department of Treasury that they have to actually go after this.
But Liz, on another point, though, I mean, it seems as though this corruption is so rampant, that the fraud is so widespread.
Why is it that Tim Walz either doesn't see it or he looks the other way?
Is he benefiting from it?
Or is he just sort of trying to act like it's not actually happening?
Actually, you heard in some comments this weekend, Jack, he was talking about how he did so much to put these people in jail.
It's well documented that it was the U.S. Attorney's Office that has led the prosecution from the very beginning in the Feeding Our Future case and many other cases of fraud in Minnesota.
So people were quick to correct him on that front.
He's been asked that question.
In fact, he had the power in the legislature to go ahead and create sort of this separate position, but it was clear that he did not want that, someone to take a look at that, somebody that he would not control, if you will, the legislative auditor position, something he did not back.
But then he went ahead and it was shortly after that he came up with his own way of fighting fraud and launched his own office.
But we've heard very little about anything that they've actually accomplished in these many months.
So I think you're asking very good questions.
I'm probably not giving you good answers, but I think a lot of us here in Minnesota have been scratching our heads going, you know, are these people in on it?
Is that why that's why this has gone on as long as it has?
But I think as the days go by, you see more and more people finally getting the moral courage to come forward and demand answers.
And I think that's exactly right.
So Liz, for your own reporting, are you able to tell us where you're going to be working with?
And by the way, I should also ask, have any members of the federal government reached out to Alpha News?
You know, we have a few sources here.
We'd be happy to pass along all of our information.
We have a whole heck of a lot.
And Jack, I'll be honest, there is not a day that goes by that we do not receive a tip at Alpha News about some sort of suspected fraud going on in Minnesota.
I've actually never seen anything like it as a 20-plus year reporter at this point in Minnesota.
People are, I think I've told you before, but they're setting up surveillance cameras themselves.
They're taking pictures themselves of these suspect properties.
You can pull these records quite easily online, but it's all alphanews.org right at the top.
You'll see fraud in Minnesota, and you can follow all of our reporting from past years.
It's all right there on that page.
And I think we many, I speak for many people that we welcome the federal government to come in and take a look at this.
And we'd be happy to help any way we possibly can.
You know, the citizens certainly deserve better here.
They certainly do.
Liz Collin, where can people go to follow you directly?
At Liz Collin on X and Alpha News also on X as well.
You can follow along with all things going on here in Minnesota.
Liz, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, Jack.
Folks, you have to understand what's going on here.
When you import a group of people from a part of the world where scamming and cheating and fraud are part of the culture, then that is the culture that you are going to import.
This is third world culture.
All of the things that Liz is describing, that Alpha News is describing, all of the things that all of them are describing are basics of third world culture.
This is why the third world is the third world.
These are cultural deficiencies.
This is why the first world, the United States of America, was able to be made the way that it is.
We have something called honor.
We have Christian values.
We have Greek philosophy.
We have Roman law.
All right, folks, President Trump now about to make his announcement, and we are going to be cutting directly over to that.
