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Oct. 25, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 102 — Roger Goodell LOVES Bad Bunny, NBA Mob Moneyball Scandal, NYC Mayoral Debates

Andrew Kolvet, Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer and Cliff Maloney dive deep into the latest controversy surrounding the Super Bowl halftime show, Roger Goodell and Bad Bunny. The Thoughtcrime crew also dissects the latest on the gambling scandal that rocked the NBA and reflect on round two of the NYC Mayoral debates. All this and more on this week’s THOUGHTCRIME Support the show

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Well ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to another Thursday edition of Thought Crime.
It is Thought Crime Thursday, and the Thought Crimes will always continue.
I am Jack Pasobic coming to you from the remote studio, but back in Phoenix, I believe we've got two of my compatriots in person.
Who we got in Phoenix, guys?
We got Andrew Colvet and Tyler Boyer, who just made it in by the skin of his teeth.
He leaves your intro with James.
It's been a busy day.
No, he's wearing the Sun Devil hoodie thing.
Yeah, I don't know if you heard, but ASU defeated a top 10 team this week.
So no big deal.
No big deal.
But that's clearly like back to the playoff.
We're talking sports, Jack.
Just be happy about that.
We're talking sports.
No, no, that's, I mean, I'm happy for you.
No, I mean, I love you.
You know, I love you like more than a friend.
But to say it, it kind of just kind of looks like you got some birthday PJs because it was Tyler's big 4-0 yesterday.
So here we are.
Welcome to the club, buddy.
Yeah, ASU won a top 10 game.
And then yesterday for the opener, the Suns defeated the Sacramento Kings.
Yeah, the Suns.
The Suns are hot.
The Suns are hot.
For your birthday.
He's got the Forkham.
He's got the Forkham hat on, which I literally thought said something else.
I got a high-five Devin Booker last night.
So I'm good.
Yeah, you know, you got to be really careful when you read the Forkham hat and like when you say the Forkham hat.
Yeah, I was very careful to articulate.
You could be really good.
People last year, it was, I mean, this is kind of thought crimy.
Last year when ASU went to the Peach Bowl, they had stuck the fork inside the Peach, and it was not a good visual.
That is thought crimy.
This is a perfect time to bring up Cliff Maloney.
Maloney also here.
He's streaming in from a remote location as well.
Where are you at, Cliff?
I am in Pittsburgh, gentlemen.
I'm in Pittsburgh.
We're fighting the fight here in PA, but traversing all over the world, as you guys know.
No days to rest.
Well, we got 12 days to election day.
Thank you for all your hard work in New Jersey.
Yeah, why don't we start there?
It's not on the script.
Give us a quick Cliff's notes, which is pun intended.
Cliff versions.
I love the Cliff's notes.
That's great.
PA, but really NJ and VA.
Yeah, so real quick in Pennsylvania, you know, we've decided to double down.
So the Pennsylvania Chase is not going to be a once every four-year thing, not every other year.
You know, it's a permanent infrastructure.
And obviously, you guys are, you know, three of the only people in the world that understand that and get what we're trying to do.
So we're knocking another 500,000 doors in Pennsylvania.
We've got 118 full-time people on the ground right now.
But as people do get distracted by shiny objects, New Jersey, we did launch the New Jersey Chase program.
And so we've got 105 additional folks in New Jersey, 10 Airbnbs throughout the state.
And this is my report on how it's looking.
If you would have asked me six months ago, I would have said, I'm not sure if Jack has a shot.
Jack Chitterelli has a shot.
And as Jack Pasovic would say, NJ is in play.
The numbers right now tell us we're about 5.5% in a better position than Jack was four years ago when he was running for governor.
That's not enough to win.
I want to say this.
We've been as honest as we can be here when we get out to talk to some of our viewers.
That is not enough to win.
Jack is going to have to continue to climb with vote by mail.
And then most importantly, he's going to have to do very well with early voting and dominate election day.
But the good news is that this thing is a race.
It's a dead heat.
We're seeing polling that's matching.
And so we've just got to finish the deal.
We've got 12 days to try to flip New Jersey, which I didn't think was in my vocabulary until about a couple months ago.
Wow.
That's awesome.
And by the way, not only to mention that, but your NJ Chase efforts are going to be bolstered because I believe Tyler Boyer made a pretty interesting turning point action first time ever announcement yesterday on his birthday.
What's up?
Yeah, Tyler, let's tee you up.
Give us the rundown.
We've got two big events, Super Chase events that we're doing in New Jersey.
So we want to make those as huge as possible.
I know, I think, Cliff, I think you're going to be there for them.
Yes, sir.
And so we're going to be driving as many volunteers as we possibly can because our technology can support getting out people basically in rapid speed out knocking doors and talking to voters.
And that's what we're going to need to do in the next week.
Yeah, we have the graphic and we'll grab it.
We'll throw it back up here so everyone can see it.
But those are those are two big events.
So you can go to tpaction.com slash superchase slash nj.
That's tpaction.com slash superchase slash nj.
And if you're in the tri-state area, if you're in the uh south jersey, Philadelphia area, uh, you know, Maryland, DC area, uh, yeah, there it is.
You can make your way up and come join us for uh both these events.
One's on Sunday, November 3rd at 3 p.m. and one's on Monday, November 4th.
Uh, I'm sorry, I'm blind.
I got it.
Sunday, November 2nd, yeah, at 3 p.m. at 3 p.m. and Monday, November 3rd at 4 p.m.
So I literally just made that same mistake like 20 minutes ago when I was talking to Tanya about something because I'm I'm um no announcements, but I'm gonna I'm gonna see if I can break away from family stuff because it's like Halloween weekend, but I'm gonna see if I can break away to come to uh at least one of those.
I mean, it's so close, so I figure you know, sneak over, do something, and then sneak back.
And uh, we'll, we'll, we'll definitely see.
Because look, NJ is the play, NJ is the thing.
And by the way, guys, we should all also mention, you know, since we're all here right now, um, I'd love if we could all get together for election night next week.
Oh, yeah, it's gonna happen.
We will be broadcasting.
We will.
Yep.
Do not fear this show.
We'll be live.
We are broadcasting.
See, there's one big problem, though.
My crappy headquarters in Harrisburg.
We, after the big win, we decided to give it a paint job.
So I can't fully reenact election night, but I will be in Harrisburg.
So I would love to join you guys.
There it is.
Mark it on your calendars, folks.
Mark it on your calendars.
We're going to get out.
We got to, I mean, I think there's very few better ways to honor Charlie Kirk than streaming on election night.
I mean, it's just, it's, it's basically written in stone at this point.
We will be streaming on election night, right, Jack?
Not only are we going to be streaming, but I'm going to be sitting right next to you, buddy, out there in Phoenix, right in my apportioned seat where I was one year ago.
And Andrew, let me bring you another tasty cake.
Dude, I still got that tasty cake in my back.
I want some watching.
That thing will last.
That thing will last through the apocalypse.
And it never goes back.
I think they sell them at mypatriotsupply.com slash slash Kirk because they will last over 25 years.
It doesn't matter if tasty cakes are Philly tough.
They will not burn on a fire.
They will not.
Nope.
No, you cannot destroy a tasty cake using conventional methods.
You can't flood it.
You can't burn it.
You can't.
While we're on the topic of New Jersey, we've got Cliff here.
Cliff, do you happen to know?
I'm sorry to just spring this on you.
Do you happen to know what the Democrat vote advantage was going into election day four years ago?
I'm not sure what it was.
I do know it's very different than Pennsylvania.
You know what I mean?
It's a much larger gap.
The current number, you're going to probably correct me, is what?
The registration gap set.
No, well, I mean, I'm talking about the actual returns.
Right now, the return advantage that Democrats have over Republicans is about 175,000 as of, I think that was yesterday.
So that may have been today, actually.
So that's, yeah, that was my question was if you had handy what the number was heading into election day, what the advantage was for Democrats four years ago.
I can pull it up.
No, but I can, I can, yeah, I can pull it.
But what I, what I'll tell you that's interesting, and you guys know this because you operate in a bunch of states, I don't operate in that many states, right?
Pennsylvania, the one thing that we do have is they're very transparent about requests, about returns by party, but even more importantly, the votes by method.
You know, New Jersey has kind of been fascinating because it's much, I mean, you can get to it, but it's much tougher to find.
But no, I'll pull that.
I mean, the thing I mentioned earlier, the 5.5%, that is this far out from the election.
If you look at the returns by party, we are 5.5% better than we were.
I'm not sure where that is on Rawl, but to me, I like to look at the trends of the percentage because then it's based on, okay, not just what Republicans are returning, right?
But what are the Democrats doing as well?
But let me pull it.
Yeah.
Well, just someone in the chat, if you guys want to see for 25 general, 24, 22, et cetera.
That's by county.
It's a lot of numbers, so I'm going to let Tyler do that.
But I believe the return rate is about neck and neck, and I have that out of Decision Desk.
So Michael Prusser over on the election live stream.
Decision desk has it at neck and neck 50-50 with a Dem raw advantage at 174,000.
And Tyler, I know you were talking about this on the Charlie Kirk show yesterday.
But look, if Republicans are going to win this, it's going to come down to that day of turnout.
It's going to come down to really needing to just blow out.
And look, and here's the thing.
That was the same thing we did last year, right?
Republicans won on day of, but the difference was we came into Election Day with a bank of votes already built up.
That was the point of the PA chase.
That was the point of turning point action all across the targeted states of the swing states.
And so the seven swing states, we all remember them.
And the entire point was that if you come into election day with a bank of votes already, then you have your E-Day wave.
That can be enough to put you over the top.
Whereas before, we weren't banking those votes.
We weren't chasing.
We didn't have Cliff Maloney and the Maloney method to come out there.
It's like Maloney ball over here, where he's coming in and putting it all, you know, putting it all in bank so that we have something to actually springboard into.
And this is what Charlie talked about all the time in 2022.
He said, and he could see it happening in real time that the Dems just kept dipping into that reserve, whereas we didn't have one.
Yeah.
And this is what was the separator with us here in Arizona and why we felt so comfortable going into Election Day was we were trending about five to six percent ahead of the Democrats.
That was our goal was we wanted to remain upwards of 5% better than Democrats in early returns.
Talking about Arizona?
Yeah, and Arizona.
And so, I mean, that's, we're seeing that.
And I mean, that's, that's the name of the game, right?
Is get out ahead of the Democrats as on return percentage.
You know, you just mentioned, uh, Jack, that that, you know, the Democrat return percentage is reflecting very similar numbers to what the Republican return percentage is right now.
The Republicans have actually been out ahead of the Democrats up until this point.
Yeah, they just closed out the gap in Massachusetts.
Yeah, and Pruser said that was to be expected.
That's what he expected, anyways, which is really interesting.
But that's that's, I mean, name of the game moving forward, especially in these states, these states that we have to win.
If President Trump isn't successful at eliminating mail-in ballots in totality, you're going to have to chase them to stay out ahead of them in order to give ourselves the best chance possible on election day, especially when, again, inclement weather can happen or, you know, if just people wake up on the wrong side of the bed that day, you know, national tragedy could happen.
You know, just there's lots of things that can impact one election day, which again, for everybody that's listening here, I'm in full support of going back to how things used to run, which is one big election day.
You know, we have our ballots.
We support the president completely on that.
But if it's not eliminated, you know, we have to unfortunately play by these stupid rules that have been put into place by leftists who have been trying to manipulate our elections now for decades.
So that's what we're up against in New Jersey.
Well, and here's that point.
That's a Michael Prusser tweet.
I just put it in the chat here, guys.
It says New Jersey vote by mail file is in for 1023.
Democrats flip the return rate margin, picking up 54 basis points and adding nearly 9,500 votes to their raw turnout lead.
So now you can see that Republican return rate is at 50.20%.
Democrat return rate just slightly higher at 50.26%.
And so the raw vote edge is about 175,000 for the Dems.
So he goes on to explain that the day of, the day we all expected has arrived, Democrats have now returned a higher rate of ballots and are likely to expand their lead to something around approximately 3% when all votes have been counted, including those that show up after Election Day.
Return pace will continue to slow as roughly 70% of all expected absentee ballots have been returned.
So, but that doesn't mean so it's all going to come down to election day then, Jack.
And that's why the Super Chase events, getting the rah-rah out, getting people aware, making some noise, making some stinks.
So that's going to be huge, well-timed, because that's really going to be where it's all determined.
Yeah, and hopefully we can also get some messages out to all the voters in the name of turning point, letting people know and reminding people to vote.
Election reminders are really important.
That's the work that Cliff's doing on the ground with njchase.org.
Go to njchase.org to follow what Cliff's doing and what his organization is doing there.
But vote reminders are what is the most necessary thing.
Phone calls and texts.
Phone calls, text.
You can download the Turning Point Action application right now.
You can join under Make Calls and Syntax to do that and help with that.
There it is.
And so everybody that's within the sound of our voice, I know that we beat this thing like a drum and it feels like 2024 all over again when we say these things.
You know, we didn't get the job done enough in Wisconsin with the Supreme Court race.
We had put thousands of people on the ground doing this work.
It still wasn't enough.
The left has literally tens of thousands of people doing this work left over from Obama era where they have all these systems in place.
And so you have to get used to just doing this work and spending a little bit of time.
I call it like going to church every week.
You got to spend a few hours every week just doing the activist work as part of your lifestyle in America.
If you don't want the left to take over, it's the same as going to church, not the same as going to church.
Church is more important, but it's the same.
Not to the left, it's not.
It's the same type of commitment, which is that you have to.
To the left, you know, and this, this is one of the reasons.
No, I do want to actually hit that because this is maybe a thought crime.
And I know it's not on the list, but who cares?
All right.
This is what we do.
Going to, so like the no kings protests and, you know, the phrase no kings, of course, comes from the French Revolution, no kings because they wanted to behead the king.
That was the point of saying it.
That for the right, going to church is your theological experience of the week.
That's where you get your emotion.
That's where you get your connection to God, your connection to community.
For the left, participating in mass protests is their way of going to church.
It is their theological activity of the week.
It is religious.
They have a religious fervor for doing so.
They believe that by taking part in it, that they are doing something for their religion.
And in fact, they are, because that is exactly what their belief system is, that their commitment to progressivism is beyond ideological.
It is, in fact, a theology.
It's a religious movement, and they believe it.
Jack, are you suggesting that leftists, their ideology is beyond common sense or it's nonsensical at times?
They're willing to bend the truth to fit into their ideology.
It's a pagan religion.
It's a neo-pagan religion.
And you see this certainly.
You see this certainly with their worship of the earth, which goes back to Gaia worship and old pagan religions.
You see it with their worship of, again, all earthly things because they don't actually believe in eternity.
So they have these pagan belief systems.
They also believe in crazy things that you can't see.
So they'll say like, oh, you know, they'll say, oh, how come you can prove you, you say you believe in God and Jesus, but you can't see God and Jesus and angels.
And I say, okay, well, you guys say you believe in things like systemic racism and the wage gap.
And none of those things exist in reality either.
Well, I was trying to, I was about to do the Harry Sisson head bob for you just because, you know, because Andrew's been sending me the bobble meme like 10 times a day.
Yeah, I love the bobble meme.
Just Harry Sisson.
Jack, Jack.
And show me on the meme, the bobblehead doll.
Show me on the doll, the bobblehead doll.
Where the meme hurts you.
Dude, guys, when he was doing that, and I was like, like I was, you know, and Isabel Brown, the great Isabel Brown, was just going through chapter and verse because I was like, well, Kamala Harris did.
And he goes, when?
And she's just reading it off.
And I see him doing this.
And I honestly, and I mean this in all sincerity, I thought he was having some kind of medical episode.
And I'm sitting there thinking, like, is this guy okay?
Like, I hope he is.
I honestly, I hope he is because I have no idea what just happened.
We have to do the sticking at the same time when we don't have the one with the sound.
Destiny did the same thing?
I didn't see that.
No, he had like, he had this weird like Twitch kind of thing where he was like looking off boneless posted the tweet of both of them together.
And you could see there's just this very strange behavior.
I don't even know.
Yeah, the way I describe it for a lot of people.
I'm not going to crash out.
It's a theater kid.
Yeah, a lot of people on the left, I find this thing where when they don't actually debate people that are bright on the right or that are articulate, you know, when they're just kind of in their echo chamber and then they have to have a conversation, they just go to these weird emotions, right?
You like watch them in some of these interviews where they're just like, you know, like they don't know how to articulate, right?
Because they're used to just getting a free pass and they're used to just hearing people praising them from their side that when somebody just calmly presents facts, they have a complete meltdown.
They don't know how to react.
Hold on.
You can tell that he might be, he might have been having a medical episode play clip.
He's throwing the key.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It was the exact same thing.
Play it again.
Play it again one more time.
They say to people who are in the pain.
It was exactly.
Anyways, that's not what I was trying to give you an off-ramp to, though.
I don't like hearing, I don't like seeing his face and hearing the Boeing sound.
I don't like that.
What do you mean by that?
So hold on.
So that was a good moment, Jack.
You got the better of Harry Sisson there big time.
But here, I was trying to give you an off-ramp to Stephen A. Smith.
I was trying to give you the off-ramp to Stephen A. Smith talking about how when you bend reality to fit your ideology, you sound like a cuckoo bird.
And this is the first thought crime today, right?
This is usually a little bit more.
Well, so it is.
And you're right.
Stephen A. Smith did say that.
So I want to go back because we've got an update.
Everyone knows that we made the huge announcement, All-American Halftime Show, Turning Point USA.
Oh, we're going to have a lot of it.
All announcements of lineup.
I know there's been a lot of fake news and fake set lists and fake rumors about who's coming up and showing up.
And I may have participated in spreading some of that, but I don't have any burner accounts.
I don't know what those things are.
But we did mention this.
And I wanted to go back because the genesis of this, and I wanted to point out that the reason I mentioned something about the halftime show wasn't in a vacuum because there is someone who used to talk about the Super Bowl halftime shows every single year.
Play Clip 348.
People say it's a spicy program.
Okay, listen.
Spicy.
It's supposed to be boundary pushing.
When you have the most televised event, this is true.
Most televised event for the entire year, one of the most televised events on the planet, by the way, that should be a reflection of the virtue that hopefully you want society to embody.
We should say, Jack, that all the fake, you know, I've seen a bunch of lineups for the halftime show.
Talks are ongoing.
There are no officials.
Yeah, we haven't made any announcements.
Yes.
So I just want to reiterate.
Underscore bold italic.
But we're talking about the market.
However, there was an announcement that came out about the Super Bowl halftime show from Roger Goodell.
Let's go to 324.
Decision to choose Bad Bunny as your Super Bowl halftime performer.
He's one of the leading and most popular entertainers in the world.
That's what we try to achieve.
It's an important stage for us.
It's an important element to the entertainment value.
It's carefully thought through.
I would say that I'm not sure we've ever selected an artist where we didn't have some blowback or criticism.
It's pretty hard to do it when you have literally hundreds of millions of people that are watching.
But we're confident it's going to be a great show and that he understands the platform that he's on.
And I think it's going to be exciting and a united moment.
Uniting moment.
A uniting moment.
So there's Roger Goodell, the great.
Everybody loves him so much.
Saying that Bad Bunny is going to be uniting.
And so, again, I don't have the clip sheet, but there is a Bad Bunny clip that I wasn't even aware of this until we were doing the show prep for Thought Crime tonight.
This is the Bad Bunny.
Andrew, if you have the list, go for it because this is the Bad Bunny Statue of Liberty.
Did you guys even know about this?
347.
47.
48.
I want to apologize to the immigrants in America.
I'm in the United States.
I know America is the whole continent.
I want to say that this country is nothing without the immigrants.
This country is nothing without Mexicans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Winton.
So that's a Bad Bunny video/slash stunt that he put out just three months ago where, and for those of you who are just listening, when that starts out, there's an image of the Statue of Liberty with the, with, I guess it's Bad Bunny up there,
like he's Ghostbusters 2, and he's putting the Puerto Rican flag over the Statue of Liberty, and then it cuts smash cuts to a bunch of guys sitting around a radio and listening as if it's like the 1980s, again, Ghostbusters 2, in, you know, like in Brooklyn or something, or the Bronx.
And it's like this AI Trump apologizing to Mexicans and his, this is just bizarre.
It's so bizarre to me.
That immigrants usually do nothing without Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and all this stuff.
And by the way, Puerto Ricans are American, it should be said.
I mean, it's a territory.
They're citizens.
They're American citizens.
Yeah, they speak Spanish, but a lot, most of them do speak English.
Let's have some real thought crimes, but I mean, here, it is kind of annoying.
The biggest thing I think, it's like when he says it's going to be unifying, well, I mean, okay, but you probably should have talked to Bad Bunny about that first, Roger, you buffoon, because, you know, he came out and he instantly was like, I don't, I'm not going to speak English and you guys all have four months to learn Spanish.
So, I mean, I think the message is pretty clear, you know?
And this is the problem.
I mean, Roger Goodell is trying to take both sides.
It's either A, he's tone deaf or B, he's an idiot.
It's 2025, right?
We just had this major referendum in the country.
You have to research these artists and understand that if they're going to take certain positions, you know, you're going to have to deal with that blowback.
So you can't act like this is not a political thing when the guys put out videos like that, put out statements like that.
But I mean, to me, it's, it's, they just always play to the mob of never wanting to offend anybody except the American right.
I mean, why are we always the ones that have to kind of be offended?
They have to push us.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, the only thing unifying about Roger Goodell is that everybody hates Roger Goodell.
And that's the most unifying thing in America.
And so Roger Goodell being a teammate with Bad Bunny just like villainizes the halftime show even more.
And so I'm like all about it.
Like we need more Roger Goodell going out in public and saying how much he endorses Bad Bunny.
The more you talk, Roger, the better it gets for the all-American halftime show.
Think about this.
Think about this.
He had to come out and give a statement about Bad Bunny because of TPUSA.
And that just shows the power and the strength of TPUSA and what Charlie and what Tyler and then Andrew tried to clean up some of the messes here and there.
Obviously wasn't able to clean up much on his own part.
But that's okay.
No one's perfect.
And it just shows the power of what Charlie built, right?
It shows the power of this movement and shows the power of what TPUSA is because you've got the commissioner of the NFL has to come out and give a statement saying that we're going to stick with Bad Bunny because legitimately people are just don't like this guy.
He's not a uniter.
He's obviously there because they signed this George Floyd era contract with Jay-Z, who's Barack Obama's best friend.
And that's why Bad Bunny gets put into, you know, these top Netflix movies like Happy Gilmore 2.
All of a sudden, he's Happy Gilmore's caddy and not the guy who was in the original movie.
And then suddenly he's also at the NFL's halftime show.
It's like, this is just such an obvious corporate play and it looks really, really bad.
And no, people are going to be sick of it and they're going to tune out and they're going to tune in to TPUSA.
And you know what?
I say, hey, guys, let's see.
Let's see how it goes.
Jack, that's not true because I'm on TikTok.
If you look at TikTok, there's a bunch of people that say, like, I just can't even like with turning point.
Okay.
I just can't even.
346.
Wait, you guys, I just saw the alternative halftime show thing.
I'm not kidding.
I thought it was a joke because I kind of saw it on TikTok and was like, oh, they're trolling, like, whatever.
I didn't know they're actually having an alternative halftime show for people who are racist.
That is so, can you imagine the people watching that?
Not only racist and like hateful, but could not catch a vibe if their life depended on it.
The most vanilla unseasoned losers on the planet.
What is going on?
And they're proud of it.
Are there more of those?
There are more like TikTok videos.
Yeah, absolutely.
You want to lib Karen can't function?
I never want to learn Spanish more.
This is so 344.
Charlie Kirk's Network just announced that they're going to have a rival halftime show and all-American rival halftime show Puerto Rico.
This is what you just said.
Puerto Rico.
This is United States territory.
Puerto Ricans.
She rolled out.
U.S. citizens.
I have never wanted to learn Spanish more.
Wait, Cliff, that's what you just said, that they don't actually use articulation and logic.
They just have this like weird emotional theatrical performances.
Cliff Maloney just said it a minute ago.
She just did it.
Yeah.
And listen, I mean, she takes that video.
She loves it.
It goes viral.
And then what does she do with it?
You know, she goes to her other liberal women in the area.
They sip on their wine and they talk about how they're, you know, they're the virtuous ones.
I mean, that's what these folks actually believe.
It is a sickness.
I mean, it is a deep, deep mental problem that these folks have.
And I don't know how you fix it.
I mean, they believe what they're saying.
There is conviction in what she's saying.
I think she's Looney Tunes.
But that's, you know, this is a deeper problem than we want to give it credit for.
And by the way, I'm going to have a little bit of a pickle here, guys.
I made a promise.
I made a pact that I would be at every Eagles Super Bowl.
So if the Eagles get to the Super Bowl, we might have a problem where I've got to, you know, just decide where my allegiances are.
So we'll see.
Didn't they have to?
So it's like, by the way, so like, you know, I might be Polish, but I did play Bernardo in Westside's story.
So I think I know a little bit about Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rico.
But there's a whole song in Westside Story about like Puerto Ricans coming to the whole musical is literally about Puerto Ricans coming to America and they're like dumping on Puerto Rico.
And I think for the movie, they had to like sanitize the lyrics.
I think, is that, is that Ariana Grande?
She plays the, I can't remember.
In the movie, they had to totally change it because they were like, okay, this goes a little, I think it's Rogers and Hammerstein as the original.
And they're like, this goes a little bit too hard on Puerto Rico.
Like you, you, you lousy island and everything.
Puerto Rico.
I want to pull up the lyrics to that, actually.
And they're like dumping on it.
So it's like, like the question of is Puerto Rico American is a legitimate question, right?
Yes, we know that they are U.S. citizens.
We get that.
But I don't think it's illegitimate.
And by the way, we are not saying that either.
Like that's when we say all-American, we just mean all-American.
It's like USA, baby.
But it's the same deal with like, like I served in Guam a couple of times.
Guam's U.S. territory, but it's got its own unique culture.
And I'm just saying there's a difference when you're born in the, you know, an actual part of the United States that is connected to other parts of the United States when there's not.
It speaks English.
But hold on.
I just have to do it.
You speak the language.
Well, but yeah, but she's trying right here.
Yeah.
360.
Puerto Rico.
Play that again.
Puerto Rico.
One more time.
Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico.
I give her an A for effort and a C minus for delivery.
Puerto Rico.
I have a new bet for you, Cliff.
If the Eagles don't go to the Super Bowl, I think you should still have to go to the Super Bowl, but you have to wear a Puerto Rican jumpsuit.
Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico.
We'll negotiate.
If you go to the Super Bowl, I might be there with you, man.
I don't know.
Oh, come on, Jack.
This whole thing is your fault.
This is all Jack's fault.
He memed this thing into existence.
Next thing I know, I'm getting emails from legitimate press outlets going like, is Turning Point USA really planning its own halftime show?
And I was like, well, shoot.
And then our empty flooded.
All right.
I'm flooded.
No, if the Eagles don't go to the Super Bowl, we're all going to enjoy the alternative halftime show together.
And you guys have to go to the Super Bowl.
You have to pay for the tickets and you have to celebrate Bad Bunny.
That's like you have to dress up and drag.
You have to dress up and how about this Puerto Rican drag?
This is a good thing.
Actually, no, actually, in the real, even in the movie version, even in the Spielberg film, she does actually sing Puerto Rico, my heart's devotion, let it sink back in the ocean.
Puerto Rico.
That's in the 2021 woke era version.
And that's still pretty hard.
Because the whole point is like they don't like the island and they want to be in America.
There's a whole song about this.
Like, you're the libs.
This is your Broadway.
This is your God.
This is your temple.
I know your lyrics.
I was the guy at Shakespeare in the Park.
Okay.
I know how this works.
You have a whole musical about hating Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico.
We have a Rumble Rant.
Oh.
From Zuzu's Paddles, which again, we love Zuzu's Paddles.
I want Jelly Roads about a great movie.
I want Jelly Roll and Brandon Lake singing Hard Fought Hallelujah at the All-American Halftime Show.
Request.
Jellyroll lost a ton of weight.
Have you guys seen that?
Yeah, I have.
He's a good Christian guy, too.
No.
I saw Jerry Jelly Roll last year at SummerSlam because he performed at WWE SummerSlam and I was there in Cleveland.
True story.
All right.
We'll say, I want to talk about this, Stephen A. Smith.
I've been chopping at the bit to get to it.
So should I give the primer and then we dive into it a little bit?
So explain.
Yeah, so explain this because there was this, you know, I guess we're doing sports today.
And this is like such a Charlie story.
Cash Patel pops up in New York City today and he gives this, I love what you said about it too, Andrew, earlier, where it's like, this is just like a story that you think would happen in like normal America, like pre-insanity America.
Yep.
It was exactly, that's exactly what it felt like.
It was like, oh, we're, you know, there's mafia ties.
There's, there's a legal throwing of games.
Like, so this one guy from the Miami Heat was in 2023 was basically, if you don't know, it's a prop bet that you can make on some of these platforms, whatever.
A prop bet is an individual.
You're betting on the individual's performance, right?
How many points he's going to score over under, how many assists, how many steals, whatever.
And so basically he says that his ankle is hurt.
He goes out after the first 10 minutes.
So of course, if you bet the under on his performance and he only played 10 minutes, you're probably going to win that bet.
But then there was also like Chauncey Billips, who's the head coach of the Portland Trailblazers.
He's apparently been implicated in an illegal poker scheme that's been coordinated with the mafia.
And they're using like x-ray and high-tech devices to cheat at poker, these high-stakes game.
And they were using Chauncey Billup's Hall of Famer, now current coach, as the fishing expedition to bring in the big, the high-net worth people.
Because if you hear, oh, NBA Hall of Famer is involved in this, must be legit.
It's going to be good, good games.
And so, you know, all in, there's 34 people that have been implicated and arrested by the FBI in this.
And here's, here's the funny part.
Jack, the investigation started in 2023.
Who was the president in 2023?
Joe Biden.
Well, the correct answer is I love the auto pen.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Sorry, it was the auto pen.
You missed that one.
That's fine.
I said you totally missed that one.
Fix it in post.
It was the auto pen, Andrew.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, listen, let's even take, let's even take Cash Patel out of it.
This is the New York FBI assistant director, Christopher Raya, talking about this 311.
Victims were attracted to play alongside well-known professional athletes and coaches like Chauncey Billips, only to be unknowingly deceived through rigged shuffling machines, fixing the odds in their favor, as alleged, and as you just heard from the U.S. Attorney's Office.
This alleged scheme wreaked havoc across the nation, exploiting the notoriety of some and the wallets of many to fund the Italian crime families.
Yeah, and so here, here's what's crazy.
You got the Bonano crime family, the Gambino crime family, the Genovese crime family, the Luchese crime family.
So this is like a whole like mafia.
They use like RICO statutes to do this.
You know, we've talked a lot about how RICO statutes are out of date.
If you're going to go after Antifa because they're decentralized, well, the mafia has a hierarchy.
RICO statutes can apply.
So then.
Oh, okay.
Go ahead.
No, I was just going to throw in.
We really got to talk about some of the ways that they were cheating, right?
You know, especially some of the game cheating, the, you know, the x-ray poker tables.
I mean, we all know Cliff Maloney is a world poker champion.
I don't know if he's ever used x-ray poker tables.
Maybe he's got some kind of like x-ray reflector in his hat.
That's why he always wears a hat.
So he's able to, oh, gosh, guys, why you got to do that to Cliff?
Why you got to do that to Cliff?
Look at Cliff.
Oh, come on.
Come on.
Look, you're letting all my vices show here.
So look, here's my advice to any poker players out there.
And there are a bunch on the right.
It's kind of interesting community.
But my advice is this.
Do not play any type of high-end home games.
So you have tournaments that are overseen by casinos, professionals.
They've obviously got regulations.
And then you've got these home games.
I know a lot of really good players that find themselves in some of these home games.
And of course, I mean, when you're talking tens of thousands of dollars, they're going to rig some of these games.
I mean, they're so profitable.
But that photo there was a World Poker Tour event I won in 2022.
I don't talk about it too often because I'm not contiminating doors, but that is my advice.
I love the competition of poker, tournament poker specifically.
It's an even game.
Everybody starts, but it's do not play home games unless you know the folks running them.
Yeah, because apparently you get x-ray tables that can see the cards that you're putting down.
Well, that's amazing.
If you watch it, if you, if you watch it, any of the television tables now.
So I've been at the TV table maybe two or three times.
The way it works is literally, and that's the same stuff I guarantee you they were using, is when you put your cards face down, it's able to read them through the table.
So, like, as you're on the TV table, you have to wear the microphone.
But one of the rules is you have to place your cards on like this four-inch by four-inch area, and it's reading your cards through x-rays or through some sort of sensors.
So, it's not like this is new technology, it's just that obviously that's very regulated.
But that's what these folks are using to go out and swindle these people out of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Well, this, this is, I mean, that would be one thing if that was it.
But then ESPN's own Stephen A. Smith felt just, I don't know, emboldened to bend the facts to fit an ideology, Jack, just to full circle it for you, and literally gave one of the dumbest takes I have ever heard in the history.
Let's just say modern politics, because I'm sure, you know, I'm not going back to the Civil War, but in the modern politics, this is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
352 don't be Trump is coming.
He's coming.
It's not hyperbolic.
It's not hyperbole.
I'm dead serious.
He's coming.
I'm just giving you the message.
I'm telling you what I know, meaning what has been told to me.
Not by him, because I don't talk to him.
And I don't agree with him.
And I didn't vote for.
But you must understand: this is the climate.
He ain't messing around.
So he goes on this diatribe basically saying.
What does that even mean?
No, he's saying that Trump is coming for the league.
He's saying that because the NBA is filled with black men that typically, I guess, don't like him or that have been activists against him, that this is all a revenge tour.
This is Trump coming for the FBI and the FBI sicking his FBI on the NBA out of revenge.
He's coming for sports.
This was Trump revenge.
Like literally nothing to do with President Trump.
The FBI started this investigation in 2023 when this guy from the Miami Heat went down and there were tweets about it online that, hey, I heard he's going to go down with an ankle injury.
Like take the under on the prop bet.
And so then that got out.
And so they start looking into it and they realize there's a lot going on in the NBA and there's all these people indicted.
And, you know, it's one of those things.
And Angelo just pointed out there's a guy named Damon Jones, an unofficial assistant coach of the Lakers in 2022, the time of the incident.
He's since retired, but probably committed the most egregious of all these violations.
He allegedly sold at one of the games the information that Braun James wouldn't be playing the following day, which then led to big bets and big wins for some of the players at the game.
So that was one.
So you could, and you start wondering about this.
And Cliff, you probably know this as well.
And actually, you follow the NBA with your sons, but there's a new concept in the NBA called like, what is it, load sharing or something?
Like working, you know, you reduce their load.
So you're constantly load management.
That's the expression.
Load management.
So load management.
So they've got this whole concept where, well, we got this load management because, you know, we want to save LeBron's legs so he's fresh in the playoffs or whatever.
How much load management is going on that's actually just illicit gambling over unders on prop bets?
Yeah.
Because you're going to sit your best players to keep them fresh for the, you know, for the playoffs or the tougher.
Or maybe you're actually just working a side angle and there's a side hustle and you know something that other people don't know.
And you know, you're only going to play LeBron James about 15 minutes at night and you're going to take the under.
And a guy that usually is like a triple double, well, you could take the under on that pretty well.
Yep.
So, I mean, I'm just saying the NBA is obviously the most shoddy and corrupt of all the sports leagues.
You could make an argument about any of them, sure.
But this is like really damning to the NBA.
And here you got Stephen A. Smith coming out and making a completely deranged argument.
This is Trump's vengeance tour against the black man or something.
I don't know where he's getting off on this, but it's completely unhinged.
Well, it's twofold.
So one, I think there's the racist attack against Trump, which is the obvious one.
The second, though, that's the least less obvious one is if you remember back in the election, the president had kind of some really fierce words for the owners, the NBA owners.
Yeah.
And for a lot of the big sports aren't it?
It wasn't just NBA.
Is all the major sports because there's a, I believe there's a belief that exists, which is true, that the sports franchises, which a lot of them are conservatives that run them, a lot of them are alleged conservatives, are scared of their player base and some of their fan base.
And they initiated all this really anti-vicious anti-Trump rhetoric throughout the years that the president served in his first administration and in the years during the whole fake autopen uh presidency, right?
So you had coming into 2024, I think there were some statements off to poll them, but there were some statements that the president made that was like, yeah, well, you know, basically the sports owners are going to have to pay their dues somewhere along the lines.
So there's not a ton of love lost, I think, in the sports.
So you're saying there is credence to what Stephen A. Smith is saying.
No, I'm not saying there's credence.
I'm saying that the angle that I think he's speaking to is the one that you're mentioning, which is that Trump is racist.
He's kind of speaking to what you're talking about.
There's like some, there's some like Trump vengeance tour.
And he's like, I'm going to get these open.
Here's the best part.
Yeah, the best part is that he's not really making any point.
He reminds me kind of of Mark Cuban when Mark Cuban would come out and like, you know, always feel like he had to have some hot take just to be edgy and to kind of always have this rumor of like a third party presidency or the celebrity running for president.
Just you don't have to have a hot take on every single issue, right?
Everything is not about racism.
Everything is not about being the guy that has the cool takes that you can get the clicks.
And you listen to what he said.
He's like saying six different things at once.
But as long as he can take a stand against Trump, he's trying to tap into some weird base.
So I just, I love when these people feel like they always have to talk.
Sometimes what they have to say is not interesting.
And this is one of those cases with Stephen A. Well, so my take on it is that he has been floating a political run of some type, right?
It's like, is he going to go for president or something?
And he got a little Trump friendly in the 2024 race.
He got a little like, hey, Democrats, you're being stupid.
All this lawfare.
It's going to come back to bite you.
And then, you know, with the assassination, I think he saw the writing on the wall, kind of, kind of cozied up to a centrist common sense position, took a bunch of flack, and now he's, he's flexing his progressive bona fides by coming after Trump.
I think you're totally right.
So the, well, okay.
So here's, here's my next point, though.
I'm so excited to go after Stephen A. Smith.
And I'll tell you why.
And Jack, you know this clip.
I was at this News Nation town hall event.
Chris Cuomo invited me.
I was like, he was like, it's going to be this really peaceful thing.
It's going to be conversation is the cure.
We're going to just, it's just going to be a discussion.
It's not going to be high intensity or whatever.
Next thing I know, I get there and they're like, hey, we had to move some things around.
You're with this Midas Touch kid.
I was like, what's his name?
Never heard of him.
Guess his name's Adam.
So I have to go sit there.
And next, within like a minute of being on stage, come back from a commercial break, a minute on stage.
They give me the first word.
I'm like, hey, progressives are prone to political violence.
All the polls show it.
Boom.
He comes at me and goes, he goes, well, do you disavow the young Republican group chat?
And I was like, whoa, hold on, Mr. Energy.
You're like, your energy's making my skin crawl.
Like this, like, this is not constructive.
I'm not going to do your disavow Olympics.
And then he looks over to the panel, which was Bill O'Reilly, Chris Cuomo, and like Stephen A. Smith.
I think Joe Manchin was there, maybe.
I can't remember.
He looks over and Stephen A goes, hell yes.
And like just totally throws me under the bus.
So I'm very excited to show this clip now that Stephen A is proving himself and his showing his true colors.
Play cut 363.
There has been a trend of, I think, you know, let's just say, let's be gracious and say in the ear of Trump, maybe it's a reaction to Trump.
I'm open to those discussions, but there is a justification for political violence.
It shows up in every poll and it's coming from progressives.
And just think about this.
We saw these Nazi group shots, which I'm sure you condemn, right?
This Nazi group shot.
Well, we can talk about it.
Do you condemn it?
I want to talk about it.
Wait, so when they said disavowing.
When they say gas chambers, you won't.
So you're like J.D. Vance.
You just won't condemn this?
Well, I actually had somebody on the show today.
We had a whole conversation.
You guys can all condemn this, right?
They go, yes.
Thank you.
Oh, look at that.
Stephen A. Smith.
Hell yes.
Oh.
That was your finest moment.
Andrew, that was your finest moment.
Could have been, you know, I would almost give you an A, but it's got to be an A minus.
I have notes for myself.
It's got to be an A minus because I have notes.
It could have been a little bit more.
Well, let's just shut him down a little more because it's like, I don't answer to you.
I'm not going to play your little struggle session game.
Well, again, it's that Chris Cuomo reeled me in saying it was going to be this peaceful, sweet thing.
And next thing I know, this kid's coming at me.
Oh, he totally did.
And to be fair to Chris, Chris ended up having him.
I think Chris was offended for me.
He sent me a nice note afterwards.
And then he had the kid on his show the next night.
And he basically was like, you know what you were doing.
You were trying to get that clip and you trying to call him a Nazi.
And I don't think the Midas Touch guys are very happy with Chris.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Why is that like boomer?
Why is it like echoey boomer?
Anyways, so it was a funny, like, unspoken thing that happened in that moment where I was like, freaking Stephen A. Smith just like chimes in out of nowhere.
Like he's got a role to play in this exchange.
Hell yes.
And I just remember going like, Matt, screw that guy.
Like, what?
Come on.
Where's and where's?
And I'm sure Stephen A. Smith has also condemned Jay Jones, right?
Oh, Jesus.
I'm sure.
Not just rhetoric, but specific descriptions of violence to Republican children.
Yeah, well, I'm sure he's called him, called him to drop out of the race.
I'm sure of it.
I'm sure we can find that.
Yeah, I'm sure of it.
I mean, honestly, for all I know, he has.
I mean, I just like, but the point is, I had a bone to pick with Stephen A. Smith.
So when he's coming in here with this vast conspiracy, 34 arrests, and they say it's just the tip of the iceberg.
It's an ongoing investigation.
We all can see the flops.
We can all see the like the calls, the five steps, no, no traveling calls.
We can, I mean, excuse me, the NBA is a complete S show.
I mean, the whole thing is just a total mess.
And for him to come out and not say, you know what, I'm ashamed of these coach.
I'm ashamed of these players for throwing games and faking injuries for bets that you have disgraced the league.
You've tarnished the reputation.
This is the league I love.
No, instead of that, instead of trying to hold them accountable, he takes it and turns it on Trump.
All these people are doing all these illegal things, swindling millions and millions and millions of dollars out of people's pockets, innocent people.
And that's his take: that it's Trump's fault.
Truly mind-blowing.
Hey, hey, hey.
It do be like that, Mr. Colvet.
It do be like that.
Oh, yes.
Why is it echoey?
I don't get it.
Why is it like the voice?
Why is like the Stephen A. Smith voice of God?
Voice of God to echo.
I don't know.
Because it's probably more appropriate to his actual ego.
So, yeah, that's about right.
I suppose.
Look, guys, I know some of you guys have heart outs.
Cliff Tyler, shout out your shout-outs, man.
Yeah, I'll jump in and just say New Jersey is the play right now.
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Back at you, brother.
Same.
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Tyler, tell us about the Super Chase is again.
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Gosh, that would be a wonderful win, to be honest.
Big deal.
We are going to be back at the Charlie Kirk show tomorrow.
We've got the AMA Ask Me Anything Fridays.
So be a part of that.
I'll be there for that.
Tyler's going to be there for that.
And so we often get a lot of turning point action questions.
It'll be good.
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And you can become a member.
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That's going to be our show tomorrow.
And yeah, Jack, it's up to you.
You're the final, the final run.
And just a program note: you know, as we know, Blake is on assignment in Italy.
Reports are that he has joined a nunnery.
So we're, you know, we're going to not really sure if that's taking.
Obviously, the Catholic Church has rejected male nuns for a long time.
But hey, I guess times change.
So female priests and Blake is trying to break the barrier and be the first male nun.
So, you know, hats off to Blake and I, you know, just really pray.
Hats off.
I mean, speaking of hats off, can we get that Cliff Maloney poker?
No.
You're doing Cliff dirty.
You're doing it dirty.
There he is.
That's a terrible Photoshop.
Who Photoshopped that?
Doesn't it?
Everybody's a critic.
I'll enjoy the trophy.
All right.
It's obviously not really good.
That's great.
I think you should pick it.
You should just bake it like Blake does, man.
Just bake it straight up.
Blake is very proud of his ball.
I think Blake went bald, like started going bald when he was like a teenager.
It was like, it was one of those stories.
Well, then we met that guy from Tijuana, and he was like, you must come to Tijuana.
Look at this.
He was pointing at his hair that one night.
I don't remember this, but I'm sure.
You were literally sitting right next to him.
You're hanging in.
Hold on, let's go.
We'll give it two more months.
Don't really make fun of that.
You're hanging in.
You're hanging in.
All right.
He's hanging in.
He's hanging in by a thread.
Terrible.
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