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Christ is king.
The epidemic of left-wing violence and Antifa-inspired terror has been escalating for nearly a decade.
President Donald Trump's Department of Justice is moving swiftly to prosecute alleged members of Antifa after he signed an executive order declaring the militant anti-fascist movement a domestic terrorist organization.
These are agitators, anarchists, and they're paid.
Accused of causing chaos and destruction, especially in American cities like Seattle and Portland.
They want to overthrow the government.
But extremism researchers like Carlin Borisenko say in order to fully understand what fuels this decentralized network.
And so you're going to get a really inside look at like the agenda of the far left.
The Bay Area Anarchist Book Fair in Oakland is where to begin.
A lot of this stuff is about doing illegal stuff.
Like we just have to sort of watch our backs here.
Oh my gosh, I got you.
A lot of this comes from their publishing company called Crime Think.
Borisenko and I recently went undercover and discovered a disturbing world that goes beyond t-shirts and New York Times best-selling authors.
And this one literally says fascist action.
Training martial arts for anti-fascism.
They are a decentralized group.
That's very true.
But it's like this is how they coordinate through the zines, through the publications, things like that.
Borisenko says this is where the radical left organizes, recruits, and indoctrinates the next generation of Antifa militants.
So Grantake, if I take this?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Generously giving away free propaganda material on how to mobilize for a violent direct action.
Selling soccer scarves to fundraise for an Antifa bail fund.
Basically for folks that get into trouble with the government crackdown, what do you think is going to happen now?
That's a good question.
And pushing tons of material.
We're a bookstore at work gallery.
Like these triple X LGBTQ comic books, easily accessible to children.
Then there are the workshops, including a DIY abortion session where organizers claim women's reproductive rights are under attack in America.
I know some of you have heard about our abortion cards.
Teaching attendees how to make their own morning after pills through this video.
I can stop so that you clear it.
And that's all that it takes.
That's easily accessible on YouTube.
First dose left.
Mr. Pristal is an incredibly safe drug.
It's safer than Tylenol.
Abortion is critical to far-left strategies because they believe it liberates women from being a part of the gender binary.
The gender binary is one of the oppressive mechanisms of capitalism.
And so if they can liberate women from the reproductive obligations that they have as women to raise kids and capitalist families and stuff like that, they believe that's a blow to capitalism.
Can I get a fucking ice?
The all-day sessions ended with a panel on organizing against ICE.
Representatives from NorCal Resist dressed up as Hamas terrorists in what they're now calling Kafia Block instead of Black Block since they know federal authorities are scrutinizing Antifa more than ever.
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Anno Domini.
Folks, absolutely amazing news.
This is something that I've had for a little while, but of course have had to keep under wraps, even though I heard about it.
Of course, certain things you just have to hold off for OPSEC purposes.
Turning Point USA, the frontlines street journalism team infiltrated Antifa this past weekend.
Two cells of Antifa in two separate states and in two separate cities.
And we are going to be interviewing members of the team that participated in that infiltration very soon here on today's episode.
So for all the people who want to say that Antifa is not real, that the organization doesn't exist, that, oh, they're decentralized.
They don't have a real leader.
They don't have, no, no.
It's a joke.
It's a lie, and it's always been one.
Antifa is the international arm of communism.
They are the militant wing of communism, and they have been for 100 years.
They even have an Antifa professor.
His name is Dr. Antifa Mark Bray.
He's over in Spain for some reason on the taxpayer dime out in New Jersey.
Well, TPUSA did not take this lightly and in fact spent the weekend not only having people.
So frontlines, the amazing thing about what these guys do, the men and women of frontlines, not only do they literally put themselves into harm's way, put themselves into harm's way, and you saw many of them featured at the president's roundtable there at the White House.
They're out there in Portland.
They're out there in Seattle.
They were in chaz.
They were in so many different things where bullets are flying, where tear gas is whizzing past them, where they're getting up close and personal with these radicals.
But what does Antifa do when they're not out in the streets?
Where do they go?
How do they organize?
How do they plan?
Turning Point USA frontlines is going to take you where they went inside the Antifa cells, inside their planning, inside their ideological radicalization.
And we will have them on to answer any questions.
So by the way, send your questions in 1776 at humanevents.com.
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Make sure that we get every single question answered that you want because this was no joke.
These are people who are marked men, people that Antifa have a kill list out for.
And we know that the kill orders went out after that roundtable of Antifa at the White House featuring the president.
But you know something?
We're not backing down.
We're doubling down.
This infiltration operation was a massive success.
And you've got the information and all the details.
And of course, as always, the receipts coming up next, Human Events Daily.
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They may have heard recently over at the Department of War in the Pentagon, the Pentagon Press Corps staged this walkout, refusing to take part in the new standards and new rules for accreditation.
And they said, oh, well, you're not going to be credentialed if we have to follow rules and do these things.
And they were marching out with their boxes and their binders.
And, you know, they were going up on TV saying how they were the real victims and all of this nonsense.
Well, the way I look at it is, gosh, what an opportunity to replace them.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to announce that Human Events is now a partner of the new Pentagon Press Corps, as well as the post-millennial.
And here to explain exactly what that means and what that entails and what's all going to happen, we have Kingsley Wilson from the Department of War here to discuss it.
Kingsley, thanks for coming back.
Great to join you, Jack.
Well, I just have to say thank you so much for the opportunity to be involved in the Pentagon Press Corps.
Of course, as a prior Navy officer myself, I never expected to be involved in the department in such a way, but here we are.
It's fantastic news, and we're so proud to have Human Events and over 60 other journalists that are going to be joining us here in the Pentagon.
And you talked a little bit about the previous Pentagon Press Corps.
They walked out because they refused to sign an agreement that was simple.
It was common sense.
It said, wear a visible press badge.
Don't go in classified spaces.
Stay in the correspondence corridor and follow the building's rules.
They refused to do that.
They self-deported.
That was their right, but also their loss, because now we get to have incredible journalists like yourself who are going to be here in the Pentagon reporting on what the Department of War is doing every single day.
It's really the next generation of journalism at the Pentagon.
And we're so excited for this new era and this new generation.
I think we saw President Trump use this on the campaign trail so well, right?
He didn't have to rely on the mainstream media's corrupt filter to get his message out.
He went to independent journalists.
He went on podcasts and alternative news networks where he was able to speak directly to the American people.
That's exactly what we hope to do here at the Department of War.
And we're really excited to welcome this new group of 60-plus journalists.
It's awesome.
Well, and I have to say, by the way, just honored to have been included at the Navy's 250th birthday and tagging along sort of in the new media seat as well with the USS Bush and that display of naval firepower, the same firepower that the cartels are now getting a taste of down in the Mark Haribay when they're trying to infiltrate the United States and trying to cross into get their illicit substances into our area.
And, you know, I was, I was not to digress, but, you know, I was on the Piers Morgan show yesterday and people were saying, oh, you know, how can the U.S. do this?
And I said, well, wait a minute, the United States Navy and the Coast Guard have been interdicting small boats and interdicting gunrunners and slavers and pirates and mercenaries and rum runners during Prohibition and all the rest for actually hundreds of years in the Caribbean.
This is nothing new.
And so it's unbelievable to me that the Press Corps is just so deficient, or I should say the previous Press Corps was so deficient in understanding just basic history.
Guys, it's worth a grok to understand that this is actually a mission that the United States military, in particular one, the United States Navy, one that I'm proud of to have been served in, has been doing for hundreds of years.
And I served at Guantanamo Bay right there in Southern Command to U.S. Southcom.
And that was had, you know, prior to detention operations, had been a key base as a recoiling station and refueling station in these types of operations.
This is nothing new.
But again, just to point to something that's going on right now that clearly shows that the people covering the Pentagon, people covering the Department of War, have no idea what they're talking about.
Absolutely.
And that's why we're so excited to have folks like yourself, Jack, who were Navy Intel officers, who understand this stuff, have that important perspective, and are going to be able to tell the American people the ground truth of what's going on without the leftist ideology, without the mainstream media spin.
The American people are now going to get the cold, hard facts.
And the cold, hard facts are that what we are doing in the Southcom AOR, all across the Western Hemisphere, is protecting the homeland and keeping the American people safe.
That is something that President Trump campaigned on doing.
It's something that Secretary Hegseth is incredibly focused on.
And we will continue to ensure that people are not trafficking deadly narcotics into our borders across our shores.
It's totally unacceptable.
If we have that kind of activity in the Gulf of America or elsewhere, we don't have a country.
We don't have a homeland that is secure and protected.
And we need to make sure as a Department of War that we are keeping the American people safe.
So these operations will continue.
We had our eighth strike yesterday, our first that was in the eastern Pacific.
And we will continue to seek out these narco-terrorists wherever they are and make sure that we dismantle these narco-terrorist networks.
They can't be allowed to, you know, wreak havoc on the American people anymore.
President Trump has said no, so this has got to stop.
And by the way, Press Secretary Wilson, that the, and I, you know, I had this, I was on the Piers Morgan show yesterday, so it's back and forth and you're changing subjects rapidly, but I didn't get a chance to say this.
And something I wanted to point out, and then people had said, well, why do the strikes instead of a VBSS visit board search and siege operation, like you may see?
And President got to see a sort of demonstration of that, an evolution that was conducted off of the USS Bush, where they had sent a Navy SEAL team to sort of conduct the VBSS on a destroyer, a simulation of what it might look like at sea.
But the response that I had is, do they understand how dangerous that is for our sailors, for our servicemen?
Do they understand the harm that you are asking them to put themselves in if they're going to try to, I don't know, board a semi-submersible that's being run by drug runners to board one of these things that's being run by cartel members.
And so yes, of course, as an, I got to say, as a prior Intel officer, of course, we're always looking for more information, more intelligent sources of information.
And so, you know, we understand that obviously with the strikes, you don't always get all of that information out.
But absolutely, one of the biggest risks that you're talking about is conducting one of these VBSS operations.
And, you know, again, it just goes to show you that I really think that there's a lot of people covering the Pentagon, covering Department of War that are very glib.
They've been very glib about this and they pick a narrative and they run with it rather than actually talking to people who served who have a basic understanding of how these operations work and what they mean for the servicemen.
And that's obviously been something that the new Secretary of War has put first and foremost in his duty.
I couldn't agree with you more.
And I think these strikes also that the president has directed send a message, right?
They tell cartels across the region, think twice before you try to harm American citizens with your deadly narcotics and deadly drugs.
That is an important message that we're sending.
We've spent years as a military, you know, nation building, doing UN missions all across the world while we have ignored what has been happening in our very own hemisphere and at our very own border.
That has ended thanks to President Trump and Secretary Hegset's vision and leadership.
So many of these cartel drug networks have been totally dismantled and we will continue to ensure that they are fully dismantled because that's what the American people deserve.
And it has been disgraceful to see so many in the media carry water for a lot of these narco-terrorists.
You have people claiming that they're fishermen.
Jack, you and I both know that if you have a semi-submersible submarine, you're probably not a fisherman.
No, the semi-submersibles are not fishermen.
I know you got to run a second.
Any other names that you're releasing at this point or where can people go to get the full list?
Yeah, so we've got a lot of folks.
We're retweeting everyone from DOW Rapid Response.
So go check out our account there.
We've got great people.
We've got Real America's Voice, which I know you're streaming from right now.
We've also got the postmillennial.
So a lot of things affiliated with you, Jack.
And we're very excited to have so many wonderful truth-telling journalists that are going to be joining us here today.
It's a real honor.
Department of War Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson, God bless and thank you.
And I will see you soon.
And you better be ready for some tough questions.
We'll be right back.
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Talk about influencers.
These are influencers.
And they're friends and mine.
Jack Krushvik, where's Jack?
Jack.
He's got a great job.
All right, Jack Krasovic, we are back here.
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Want to play the next half of that infiltration documentary, Turning Point USA Frontlines, going beyond the front lines into the heart of Antifa.
Despite the change in appearance, their goals remain the same.
Declare class warfare.
Use the latest protest movement to destabilize the U.S. government, tear down capitalism and anything related to Israel.
Then usher in a violent revolution built on socialist and communist ideals.
This playbook is pretty much laid out in all their material.
Welcome to the Church of Satan Anarchists.
But most unsettling of all, multiple vendors embrace teachings from the occult and Satan worship.
Explicitly anarcho-Satanism.
This man altered the Antifa logo and added prongs from a devil's pitchfork.
Satan!
Then asked people to put on this Lucifer mask and recite their allegiance to the Prince of Darkness.
Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free thinker and the emancipator of worlds.
The next day, Borisenko and I flew to the Emerald City to meet citizen journalist Matthew Adams.
You can feel the heat, who's been covering Antifa chaos for several years.
They're absolutely trying to recruit for Antifa.
We infiltrated the Seattle Anarchist Book Fair hosted by the Vera Project.
They want to put our picture up there for being a fascist and were immediately greeted by a massive board featuring a so-called wall of fascists.
That's us in the photos.
Once we got in wearing disguises, the messaging and the vibe were pretty much the same as the Oakland book fair.
More far-left propaganda, calls for anarchist violence against the ruling class.
I hope to see all of you soon in 10 minutes.
And hyper-sexualized content targeting minors.
Borisenko even obtained a flyer for an Antifa direct action in a city park scheduled for Halloween Eve.
Stop family, please.
Adams and I were eventually outed and chased by a group of angry transgender activists.
Even with this amazing t-shirt, they know us from these direct actions.
We're going to Left Bank Books, which is a far-left revolutionary bookstore.
Borisenko spent the remainder of her time plotting out the constellation of bookstores in Seattle that are keeping these ideas alive.
She knows the direct action fascists, anti-fascist zeros.
With more Americans now realizing the danger posed by Antifa and their followers.
The rioters that were saying kill ICE agents.
Federal authorities are also trying to disrupt the terror group's funding network.
We are following the money.
But like a hydra.
And I won't give a fuck.
Cutting off one head will likely sprout several others.
They are harming everyday citizens in every single one of our communities.
Because Antifa is fueled by an allegiance to extremist ideology, not just a bank account.
So if law enforcement isn't looking at the bookstores and the book fairs, then they're really missing an opportunity to figure out what these people are doing.
Just incredible work.
And we're joined now by two of the members of that team, incredible, intrepid journalists and videographers and friends of mine, by the way.
We've got Jonathan Cho and 6'7 Kevin.
What's up, guys?
Howdy.
Thanks for having us, Jack.
So let me get started on this.
Jonathan, the first question I have is, how did you shape this operation?
And how was it that you got started really on this infiltration?
Well, Jack, the conversation about chasing the story actually started right after our White House roundtable.
I think it's been about a week now since we were both there advising the president on Antifa and our experience covering this domestic terror group.
And my friend and researcher, Carlin Borisenko, and I, we've stayed in touch, and she told me that if I really wanted to see what was happening behind the scenes, the underbelly, so to speak, the planning, the recruiting, the indoctrination, that I would need to go to these anarchist book fairs.
Now, look, I've known about anarchist book fairs for several years now living in Seattle.
Places like Portland have them, Oakland have them.
I didn't really think much of them.
I thought they were just book fairs, right?
Pretty innocuous.
But once I went inside with Carlin, that's when I started to see the actual material, the messaging inside, the calls for direct action and the sessions, like one on an anti-ICE protest that they're planning.
They're actually calling for violence and teaching recruits how to, again, get in the way of these agents and disrupt ICE raids.
So the idea is then you came in.
Now, did you know where these locations were?
Did Dr. Carlin know?
Was this something, or was this something that you uncovered by sort of, you know, using a top of funnel method where you go to the black block and then learn more information as you daisy chain it forward?
Yeah, pretty much.
This is all public knowledge.
This is all openly advertised on social media sites like Blue Sky, Instagram, and of course the flyer method.
These are posted everywhere.
I want to be very clear.
There was no fee to enter these anarchist book fairs.
It was totally free.
It was open to the public.
The only thing that we couldn't do was record.
And that's where we had to go undercover.
And unfortunately for me and Carlin, we're recognizable in this space.
The far left activists know who we are.
So there were actually poster boards with our faces saying, look out for these fascists.
That's what they called us, fascists.
And that's something I want to ask in a second.
By the way, 6'7, Kevin.
So I have to imagine that after this, they're definitely going to recognize you.
By the way, he really is 6'7, folks.
Can't really tell here.
Yeah, they are going to recognize me.
I did get out of there for trying to record inside of a DIY abortion workshop.
But being on the ground at this book fair, one of the things that hit me first other than the smell, because there are a lot of overweight LGBTQ individuals who just get struck by the smell, was the occult, the witchcraft, and the overt Satanism that was everywhere at this book fair.
I was talking to people.
I was like, are you guys putting out real witchcraft, real sigils, things like that?
They said, yeah.
I mean, you saw the guy there.
He asked me, hey, put on this satanic mask, mask, and basically, you know, swear yourself to Satan.
I'm like, no, thanks.
You know, I'm good.
But when conservatives say this is a spiritual war, this really is.
And we need to pray for these individuals because they're all images of God still, but they're being corrupted right now.
But prayers are necessary.
This is a spiritual war.
That's exactly right.
And we're going to break that down some more throughout the rest of the episode.
Quick break here.
Do not touch that.
Don't even think about scrolling away, folks.
Turning point USA frontlines infiltrated Antifa, and we've got the stories from inside the black block.
Stay tuned right back, Real Mechanics Words.
Where's Jack?
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting policies.
All right, Jack Pesovic, we're back live here.
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We're with Jonathan Cho, 6'7, Kevin, who were part of the Turning Point USA Frontlines team, the journalists that infiltrated Antifa in two spots this weekend.
I want to go to Kevin for a second there, because just picking up where you left off, you mentioned the pervasive occult references that you saw and occult.
You know, I would almost call them like quasi-inversions or sacrificial false sacramentals.
You know, Media Matters wrote me up last week for saying because I said that Black Lives Matter was filled with demonic and occult practices.
But it's actually true.
One of the founders of Black Lives Matter, Patrice Colors, is a practitioner of IoFA, which is a voodoo religion.
And these practices, which come up from Haiti, include summoning circles, such as standing around in a circle and chanting the name of a deceased individual to try to summon their soul.
Like, oh, I don't know, George Floyd or Breonna Taylor.
Again, the reason they chant these names, it's going back to these older occult practices, pouring of libations, etc.
And so, what pulling out that a little bit more, I saw there was the clip you guys mentioned about, you know, Satan and the, you know, the satanic temple.
What other pieces of occult practices did you see there?
Yeah, so it's kind of the foundation of their philosophy and ideology goes to Satan, which is really interesting because what I was hearing, they talked about Satan as one of the first border crossers into Eden.
So they see Satan as this illegal immigrant.
I asked them if they think that the United States is a godly nation or a satanic nation.
They said that any nation that has hierarchy is godly and therefore should be pulled down.
So this is part of their ideology is basically to just bring chaos and burn it all down.
And it's kind of insidious how they're doing this because there were children at this workshop.
So you can see clips.
A child walks up to the satanic anarchist table and takes some satanic propaganda.
So they're teaching children this.
This is just deep in the ideology.
And so I think we need to be aware of it and kind of learn how they're thinking about these things.
That's that's so key because what goes hand in hand with that is the idea of death, destruction, killing.
And of course, we all just saw the killing of Turning Point USA's leader, Charlie Kirk, just about one month ago.
It's almost two months ago, believe it or not.
We're getting up to the two-month mark.
Jonathan, this image that you actually texted me over the weekend that I got to see before, you know, well, you know, you guys had made this announcement that you had infiltrated.
This to me looked like a hit list, a kill list that was printed up on the wall of journalists, of conservatives that were all over the wall of this Antifa cell.
Describe it for me and tell me what you learned about it.
So, Jack, Carlin and I, along with citizen journalist Matthew Adams, we were in two different spots.
We first started off in Oakland, and that's when they were using social media to really warn people, especially about Carlin and her presence.
They knew that she could potentially infiltrate this space.
Then we fly to Seattle, and that's when I see this massive board again at the Vera Project.
It is a space within climate pledge arena.
This is where the Seattle Kraken play.
This is where Seattle's WNBA team play.
So this is a place where you have millions of people who visit every single year.
And then in this room, as soon as we walk in, there is a massive board, so to speak, and they call it the fascist wall.
My photos on it, Matthew Adams' photos on it, Carlin's photos on it.
Of course, your colleague Katie Davis Court over at Postmillennial, her photos on it, along with other Pacific Northwest and West Coast journalists.
And basically, it was not just a warning to keep us out.
I truly believe it was a warning to the Antifa thugs who are mingling in this room to look out for us and target us and to hurt us.
So we knew that going in.
So we tried our best to go in disguise.
I was wearing a mask.
I was wearing a queer liberation shirt.
But eventually, towards the tail end, we were in there only for about 15, 20 minutes.
We were outed.
They recognized me.
They recognized citizen journalist Matthew Adams after all of his coverage on the front lines here.
And we had to book out of there, ASAP.
And they sent about five, six, seven transgender activists after us.
And again, that's how Antifa and these far-left activists play.
They'll never come at us one-on-one.
They'll send like 20 people.
So we got out of there.
We got the story.
So that's what you're seeing right now.
And what sort of information did they have included on that?
Because it does seem that, so it's mentioning sort of the list of crimes, but did this include, and obviously we're not going to zoom in because I don't know if it's totally redacted.
I'm sure you guys aren't going to put anything like that.
But did it include things like addresses, doxes, that type of stuff?
Well, it didn't have our specific addresses on the wall, but I know that there's a similar wall right now online with more details.
What was on this were our photos, our names, and also which cities we lived and operated in.
So again, it was a call out to their comrades to look out for us, especially in these protest hot zones or these anarchist book fairs.
And again, I was actually surprised at the planning and coordination.
I have never really been to these anarchist book fairs in Seattle.
I've known about them, but I had no idea what was really happening inside.
And the fact that they went out of their way to have security put up this wall shows that this isn't just something that happens organically.
This was intentionally planned.
This is a sophisticated operation.
And again, the anarchist book fairs are not these innocuous places that just go pick up a good read.
It's where they plan, they strategize, and they recruit and they indoctrinate through their far left violent propaganda.
And Jonathan, before I ask you, have felt to see your name up there.
Is that a security system that I see on the wall beneath the pictures?
Yeah, look, I didn't take a really close look.
So I'm looking at the same photo you do.
But yeah, there were cameras there as well.
There were security guards.
They had people with walkie-talkies.
They were looking out for us.
They were also looking out for anyone who looked like police officers or the feds because they know that they're going to be infiltrated eventually.
That security, by the way, Jonathan, that security, was that armed security?
I couldn't tell, but they definitely had batons.
I can tell you that.
I didn't know if they had pistols, but I'm sure I just assume whenever I go to these events, especially these direct actions, that the Antifa militants, at the very least, have bear sprayer knives.
But I didn't see any guns, but they had walkie-talkies.
They were all masked up.
And it was, again, coordinated.
And that's what was really concerning.
And it was a total risk for us to go in there.
But we made it out and we're thankful.
Well, look, you're seeing, again, you know, you guys are seeing what you went up against.
They say this stuff doesn't exist.
They've got sophisticated security.
They've got communications, security, communications operations, ComSec, where they're using walkie-talkies because obviously they're worried.
And clearly, by the way, the use of walkie-talkies or ham radios is a way to attempt to circumvent police or federal infiltration of their comms because they're worried about their cell phones being infiltrated or wiretapped by the FBI.
That's one of the reasons that you see them practicing ComSec like that.
I remember in Chaz in 2020, they were using microphones and walkie-talkies with push to talk that was operated over Bluetooth, like a Bluetooth mesh network.
So what they would be doing is they would set up a digital network locally with local repeaters and local routers that wasn't.
So they're not even operating off the cell phone towers, but it was basically just from within the chaz itself.
And they could communicate from one checkpoint to another checkpoint.
And in those cases, they were armed with the John Brown Gun Club of Puget Sound with both long rifles and handguns.
I remember at one point when Katie Davis court was there, I was in, you know, infiltrated in cover the same way you were, and she was not.
And I could see there was a guy who walked right up to her with a, looked like a Glock 9mm in his waistband and got very, very close.
And I certainly kept my eyes close on that gun and close on his hands while he was very close to her like that.
And of course, saw them pulled multiple times by Raz Simone and others when we were there late in the night.
Jack Pasovic on with the incredible Turning Point Frontlines team who infiltrated Antifa this weekend.
All the details right back when we continue Human Events Daily.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country right again.
Amen.
All right, folks, Jack Posobic.
We are back, Human Events Daily.
We're talking about the incredible infiltration operation that Turning Point USA Frontlines team ran.
And guys, Jonathan, let me ask you, if people want to continue to support your operations, I'd be remiss if I didn't put this out.
How can they go and support Frontlines?
Yeah, no, thanks for asking.
You know, first of all, you can follow me at Cho Show, C-H-O-E-S-H-O-W, and of course, our Frontlines team at Frontlines TPUSA.
And we always want to partner up with people who may want to fund one of these trips because we need the support.
And if you can't, just click the subscribe button and follow us and just send these stories out to the rest of your friends.
America really needs to see what's happening here right now in independent media.
Guys like us, we're the only ones showing it right now.
And this is really happening in American cities.
And as you and Kevin were discussing earlier, it really now has come down to a fight between good and evil.
In fact, it's always been like that, but I'm seeing it now more than ever.
This really is spiritual warfare.
No, it is.
6'7, Kevin, you know, on that, on the question of the technological side, you know, when you go to conduct one of these operations, what sort of tech, what sort of, you know, filming equipment were you guys using?
Yeah, I mean, we have to be pretty covert here because obviously they put up about hundreds of posters that say no filming, no recording, and they will kick you out immediately.
And they have all of these guards standing around and they're just watching you like a hawk.
I had people looking at me like, you know, he looks a little too straight, but they just couldn't, you know, be for sure that I was doing something.
But we had spy sunglasses.
So if you see the six foot seven perspective looking down, that's my angle.
And then Jonathan also had his own sunglasses.
And then both of us were mic'd up with audio as well.
So when we couldn't record with the sunglasses, we were getting the audio.
So it was an amalgamation of a lot, even some iPhone footage as well.
But then by the end, we did get outed and a leftist basically was putting tape over my sunglasses and told me to leave.
So didn't work that great.
Well, again, it's that incredible use of technology, the incredible use.
Now, Jonathan, you don't have those spyglasses on right now.
That's not what those are, are they?
No, these are just my regular Gucci sunglasses, but we had the million dollars.
Okay, that's what he, yeah.
He says that now.
He says that now.
But in all seriousness, you were, you mentioned something earlier that I wanted to get into this sort of, you know, Kevin was telling us about the interplay there.
And I remember this when I was in the chaz.
It really does operate like a sort of mini community when you're inside these things, doesn't it?
Yeah, and that's what was so fascinating for me.
When I went there, and again, everyone assumed that initially we were leftists, right?
That we were for this cause.
They called us comrades and so on and so forth.
Everyone was so generous and giving, giving us free pamphlets, free posters, giving us discounts.
A lot of the material was, you know, if there was a charge, there would be a sliding scale.
They would say, whatever you can afford, but just take it and give it to someone else.
I also saw homeless teenagers.
One fella said he was kicked out from his house because he came on to his parents as LGBTQ.
And that's unfortunate.
But overall, this, again, feel of family, community is what these disenfranchised young people are looking for.
And unfortunately, they're finding it here.
But what I really believe, I know that, you know, when it comes to even our coverage, sometimes, you know, I'll say it again, the ideology is dangerous.
It's violent.
It's evil.
But these people can all be redeemed.
But unfortunately, right now, they're all lost.
And that's what's so sad.
Kevin, you know, you mentioned that praying for these people.
And I think that's a big part of it.
But also from a governmental perspective, at the same time, the federal government, you guys broke the story that the crackdown has begun on the financial and network investigation of these guys.
You know, Kevin, from that perspective, what we've learned, do you think, as committed as they are, that they'll stop unless the government does something?
They're not going to stop.
And even if there is a huge amount of government action, which it might require overreach, which I don't agree with either, because so much of this operation is decentralized.
We went to their anti-ice workshop and they told us part of why they were so successful is that it is decentralized, that there isn't just one nonprofit that you can defund and it just collapses Antifa.
I was actually at a brewery and I was talking to this gentleman that ended up being a Chase executive president there.
And he admitted to me that he was actually a communist and that he had funded some of these Antifa groups.
And he told me he had given them $10,000 in cash at a protest at one point and just dropped it off.
He'll just bring them coffee.
He'll bring them food.
So it's so decentralized.
Some of this is cash.
Some of this you can't track.
So this is going to be terribly difficult to actually tramp out.
And I think that's exactly right, because it's something that we learned with these committed communists over time that they do have this sort of romantic belief.
And Jonathan, would you describe it as sort of a romantic utopian belief system that they seem to have thrown themselves into?
It really is.
This is their subculture.
This is their ideal worldview, right?
But again, I believe they've been brainwashed.
This is because a lot of these young men and women, they don't have purpose in life.
They've been kicked out of their homes.
They don't fit in.
One of the analysts that I talked to in the Oakland area off the, you know, outside of the story, he basically said these, these were the kids who felt like they were outcasts and losers in high school.
They weren't even necessarily the smart kids, but they were the ones just in the corner cafeteria.
But then now they've all grown up and they found each other.
So they formed not only this family, but a gang and a gang now with purpose to go out and cause chaos, ultimately to usher in this violent revolution to bring this, what they believe is a utopia.
And right now, America doesn't fit that vision.
Well, and it goes all the way back to the French Revolution.
The French Revolution had that commune system, and that's exactly what you're describing.
These are modern communes.
And when the modern iteration of Antifa got started in really in West Berlin in the 1960s, that's exactly how they started.
They were in buildings that had been abandoned in World War II, and they sort of set up shop as squatters.
And that's really where the Ottoman, as they called themselves back then, came from.
And that, of course, is back from the prior iteration of Antifa during the interwar period when they were used to destabilize the Weimar Republic.
But you go back to these French Revolution references.
And of course, that goes all the way up to the mainstreaming of the French Revolution and Antifa phrase, no kings.
That goes all the way back to the French Revolution.
No kings, no masters is a phrase that was used, has been used for hundreds of years.
It's certainly been used by Antifa since they've come back around.
And it was used by the Jacobins.
No kings, no lords was the original phrasing.
And now it's been completely mainstreamed in cities across the country.
Final question, I suppose, to let's let's go, let's start with Kevin.
Kevin, given what you've seen, would it surprise you to think that the organizers of the no kings and organizers of these Antifa cells have some overlap?
It definitely could be overlap, but it also could be just organic and it could be just springing up naturally in their own areas.
What is interesting, and I'll quote Star Wars on this.
This is from Star Wars Andor, but this character says, when the empire cracks down, its overreach stronger, it only makes the rebellion stronger.
So as all of these talks about cracking down on Antifa and National Guard increase, it's almost bolstering the morale of these individuals and making more of these people pop up and want to rebel.
So, you know, they're only getting stronger, it seems.
Yeah, well, this is the situation and it won't stop until it's stopped.
Jonathan Cho, Cho Sho, 67 Kevin, do you have social media you want to put out?
Sure, yeah.
6-7-Kevin1 on Twitter and then 6-7-Kevin on YouTube where I do documentary.
Make sure there, gentlemen, thank you so much for your work.
Be safe, but don't quit.
Jack, thanks for amplifying this.
Thank you, Jonathan.
Amen.
We'll get it out there.
And I said to everybody, I said, we're going to spread this one like the plague.
