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TPUSA Students Speak Out After Dr. Antifa, NJ Rally & the Fight to Protect Children From Porn

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Christ is king.
What's gonna happen if the United States isn't a conflict?
And we need the Tomahawks.
Well, that's that's a problem.
We need tomahawks and we need a lot of other things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine.
You need thousands of drones.
It goes together with such missas.
Ukraine has such thousands of all production drones.
The United States has Tamahooks and Aden Missa, very strong missus, but they can have our thousands of drones.
I don't mean to be brokering an arms deal here, but is that something that you would be interested in?
Ukrainian drones.
We are ceasefire is still in effect despite terrorists attacking and killing two Israeli soldiers yesterday morning, followed by the IDF launching retaliatory strikes.
The Israeli army announcing on X, quote, the IDF will continue to uphold the ceasefire agreement and will respond firmly to any violation of it.
Venezuela, there are survivors from your latest boat strike.
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We attacked a submarine, and that was a drug carrying submarine built specifically for the transportation of massive amounts of drugs.
Just say this was not an innocent group of people.
Aliens are expected to come out for another round of No Kings rallies across the country speaking out against the Trump administration's policies.
We gotta grab a gun.
We gotta turn around the guns of this fascist system.
These ice agents gotta get shot because he was a racist, because he was a misogynist, and that means that you are a few because you support him.
Yeah!
He's a piece of garbage.
Of course we were mean.
I am so tired of people saying, Oh, but you know, it's a terrible thing.
No, Hitler is dead.
I'm glad Hitler's dead.
all right No, wait, wait, wait, wait.
No kings, but Jesus Christ.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live real America's voice.
Today is October 20th, 2025.
Anno Domini.
Just got back from New Jersey.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you that New Jersey is going red in just I think it's 15 days until election day.
We had over a thousand people up there in Bergen County in a baseball field, Veterans Memorial Park, in the beautiful town, absolutely beautiful town, Dumont, New Jersey, right next to T-Neck.
I gotta tell you, that's an incredible place, an incredible town, great people, a lot of Italian, a lot of Irish, a lot of Polak names like myself.
And it was great to be there, wonderful to be there.
So many people coming up, red MAGA hats, white freedom shirts, dotting the crowd.
You saw them all over the place, turning point action, turning up in full to be there in support of Jack Chatterelli, the next governor of the Garden State.
And I gotta tell you as well, I gotta tell you as well that he came and spoke.
And this was the this is the first time I got to see him speak in public, like in person, and actually be able to see the whole speech.
I gotta tell you, folks, his level of connection, his personal ability, um, personality, his force of just being there and having that aura.
Jack Cheddarelli has aura.
Jack Cheddarelli has what it takes to go all the way.
That's the guy who knew Jersey wants to be the next governor.
And this this individual, I'm I'm just telling you.
I could say I see a lot of politicians.
I see a lot of people who run for office.
That guy has it and he absolutely has it in spades.
Then you go and look at their candidate, Mikey Sheryl.
Oh my goodness.
Mikey, the her campaign's incomplete for E Fall.
And if you look at that picture I posted of her earlier today on X, you can see it in her face.
You can read it all over her face.
That the joy is gone.
It's just like Kamlaw last year.
Remember the joy?
There's no joy there.
The joy is gone.
And in fact, in its place is sadness.
Because I think I know what it is.
I think that they showed her the internal polls.
You remember the internal polls from last year that Kamala Harris was getting?
And everybody told me, they said you're crazy Pesobic.
You have no idea what's going on.
You have no clue.
And I said, No, no, I think, I think that Kamala Harris is going to collapse.
And I had people tell me, oh, what about what about, you know, Ann Seltzer?
What about the Iowa poll?
She's the gold standard, and there's gonna be this secret abortion army.
I said, it doesn't, I don't buy it.
I don't buy it for a second.
Now, look, New Jersey is the kind of state that I could see it there, working class, hardworking people up there, Dumont, New Jersey.
And I said, look, if 12 elected Democrats, it might be 15 by the time that I'm, you know, we're done the show here today, but if 12 elected Democrats can cross the aisle and vote for Jack Cheddarelli and endorse Jack Cheddarelli, then maybe just maybe North Jersey wouldn't mind if an Eagles fan like myself would come all the way up there and also rally for support for Jack Chitterelli.
I mean, what are they doing for Mikey?
They're airlifting, they're so desperate, by the way, for her, they're airlifting all of the worst Democrats that you can think of in to try to prop her up because her campaign's in collect in complete collapse in free fall.
They're talking, oh my gosh.
They brought Obama in, all right.
They brought in Wes Moore, the guy out of uh out of Maryland.
Then they brought in now.
They didn't even bring her to New York because excuse me, they wouldn't bring her to Jersey.
They brought her over to New York and they try to play this game like she's not actually coming in.
They even rolled out for a fundraiser together.
Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton.
Guys, New Jersey as a state, I'm telling you, if we do the work for the next couple of weeks, it's just a couple of weeks of work.
If you can get to New Jersey, go to New Jersey, just like I did.
If you can be of help, be of help, New Jersey can go red.
Bank on it.
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So not only did I attend this rally yesterday, we had a thousand patriots from New Jersey who came out, a thousand patriots strong.
We also, of course, had the great candidate, Jack Chitarelli, who was out there.
He's a business owner, he's a businessman, he comes from the private sector, he's done incredible work there.
But I was so excited because you know, you know this story that's going on.
Rutgers University, Dr. Antifa flees to Spain, blames these students, says he's receiving death threats from these students, blames me.
The university's now put the students under investigation.
I said, I need to meet some of these students.
I gotta find out for myself.
So I hope though they come out and folks, uh brace yourselves because one of these terrifying, horrifying uh, you know, absolute terrorists joined me on stage yesterday in Bergen County, New Jersey.
Let's roll the clip.
We have the chapter leader of Rutgers University, Ava Kwan joining us right now here on stage.
She's not gonna back down.
We are not gonna back down, and New Jersey's not gonna back down.
Look at her folks, she's so terrifying, isn't she?
This is the she said they said that she was the one who terrified a professor to have to run all the way to Europe.
Ava, tell us a few words about what's going on since this professor and now the entire university has targeted you and has targeted your chapter.
Well, firstly, when we came out with our petition, we got immense hate from students at the school.
Megan and I who created the petition, we were both sent threatening messages.
I was doxxed.
Like you said, they found my mother's cell phone number and we're sending it around.
It's been awful.
And now the school has started an investigation on our chapter, stating that Megan and I who created the petition are no longer ineligible or eligible to hold our positions at turning point.
It's of course it just happened.
I know, I know.
And we've been holding these positions the entire year.
Well, like I said, folks, Turning Point USA is not backing down.
The students of Rutgers are not backing down.
And I'm so excited that the Rutgers chapter student leaders are here to join us on Human Events Daily.
Ladies and gentlemen, we've got Ava Kwan and Megan Doyle from Rutgers University TPUSA chapter joining us.
Ladies, thank you so much for being here.
Thank you, Jack.
And I just wanted to say, I appreciate the introduction you gave me yesterday.
You really make me seem so menacing and terrifying.
I mean, you were.
I mean, I mean, all like what, five foot four from the true actually.
Five two.
Okay.
I think you had heels on or something.
Yeah, so so terrifying.
I said, I said, I said, I meet the two of you, and I say, these are the ones that he had to flee all the way to Spain for.
So, so let me let me ask, and and I think if I remember this correctly, Megan, were you the one who started the petition?
Is that do I have that right?
Yes, I did start the petition.
So, so walk me through this.
We're in the aftermath of the the head of Turning Point USA nationwide gets murdered in front of everyone, in front of everyone's eyes.
And it's a serious business.
It's very serious business.
And you have this professor on campus who's known to you, who's been spreading these violent um ideologies for years.
He's well known.
He was run out of Dartmouth and denounced by the president of Dartmouth.
What led you to starting the petition and what was the initial response?
You know, um seeing the when I first started the petition, because we had a lot of uh members from Turning Point um reach out to us, and they were suggesting that we make a petition uh against this professor because he was promoting political rhetoric.
He was biased towards students who had differing political opinions from him.
And you know, Antifa was just declared a terrorist organization by the Trump administration, and he was headlined.
He was um famously called out by Andy No, and especially you, Jack Sovic for his Antifa alignment.
Um, and especially with him promoting this political rhetoric, this is the kind of rhetoric that got Charlie killed last next um last month.
So I felt the need that we needed to petition, we needed to call on Rutgers and ask, why are you hiring this professor?
Why is Professor allowed to speak?
Why does he have this audience right now?
Why is he promoting this political violence?
Why is he promoting doxing?
Why is he promoting threats?
Why is he he poor why is he calling people fascists without proper context in his book?
And that's why I started the petition.
I wanted to educate non-students, alumni, students, and even donors alike.
Well, and and then you see his post here where he mentions turning point USA, he mentions my sp myself.
Spell my name right.
I appreciate that, Dr. Antifa, commitment to accuracy.
Andy Noah also spelled his name right again.
And Fox News, which called him an Antifa financier, which is true, by the way, because he donated half the proceeds of his book to the International Antifa Defense Fund, which is amazing because Antifa, we're told doesn't exist, but now they also have an international defense funds.
I'm not sure how that works.
Ava, you you've been in in the middle of this.
You talked about before you get you guys get doxxed, your mom's cell phone gets doxxed, which is horrifying, gets spread around.
How is the university responded?
What is the university doing?
Are they trying to reach some kind of agreement?
Are they trying to uh calm things down?
What are they doing?
Well, unfortunately, Jack, they are doing nothing.
The only thing that they're doing is investigating our chapter.
And, you know, even even worse, they're investigating our chapter behind Megan and I's backs.
Um, you know, it's been in the news, you know, and I spoke about it yesterday at the rally that they're trying to get Megan and I ousted from our eboard positions at the turning point chapter.
And they're doing this by emailing our president and stating that, you know, randomly we become ineligible uh due to our student statuses.
So instead of, you know, coming directly to us, having a conversation with us, and you know, even seeing if we're okay after all this, instead they're just going behind our backs and trying to oust us from our positions.
So it's been very frustrating and and really sad, really sad to see.
So they're investigating you, and and and I looked into this thing, and it these are these are like it's like paperwork stuff.
They're saying, oh, you know, you took some classes on this campus, but not this campus, and it's and it's ridiculous.
By the way, I'd love to know that if they're saying there's an issue with the campus status, that is is that how they promote the that campus to all of the people who go there?
Is that how they promote that campus to every single student who's taking classes there that they're taking money from?
Do they promote that that campus as being a lesser status than the other campuses?
Because I would certainly hate to find that if Rutgers is actually engaging in fraud and defrauding all the students and the banks and people that are paying tuition into the system, but they're defrauding this the system by having them go to a satellite campus, which is actually a quote unquote lesser campus, if that's what they're saying the new standard is.
I mean, these are just some of the questions that I think we'd all have to get into if uh if this decision goes forward and this investigation goes forward.
And I know that look, I'm not a lawyer, but you know who are the turning point legal department, and turning point has an incredible legal department, and I think that routers can certainly find that out very quickly for themselves if they intend to continue to do so.
Look, I want both of you guys to know you absolutely did the right thing.
You've done an incredible thing.
The work that you are doing is fantastic.
And Turning Point Headquarters, which I've spoken to in Phoenix, is behind you a hundred percent.
I'm behind you 100%.
And we are going to defend this chapter the same way that we defend every single chapter around the country.
Violent rhetoric, whether from a student or from a professor or whoever, whoever it is, has no place on any college campus in America, and it certainly doesn't have a place from a position of authority.
And again, what did you do?
You launched a petition.
It is the most peaceful thing you could possibly do.
You put the petition out, you put it up, and you are the ones who have been under threat.
We're coming up on a quick break here, but I want everyone to stay tuned because we're gonna have more with Ava and Megan, the heroes of the Turning Point Rutgers chapter, and all of the students there are heroes, just like every single member of Turning Point USA.
I'll be right back here in Events Daily.
You talk about influences.
These are influences, and they're friends of mine.
Jack, where's Jack?
We've got a break.
All right, folks, Jack was so big.
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We're back on with chapter leaders at the Rutgers TP USA chapter.
Uh, they have been put under investigation by Rutgers, who is protecting Dr. Antifa and now giving him essentially a taxpayer-funded vacation in Spain rather than have him on campus.
Because here they are, folks, and again, brace yourselves.
I know it's Halloween, but you're in for a fright because they're so terrifying.
It's it's Megan and Ava.
Here they are.
I mean, I mean, I I know it's it's so shocking to have you guys on here.
And so, so let me let me ask this to to Megan when you know, when you put this together, what did you think of the professor's response flying to Spain and claiming without any evidence whatsoever to back it up that he's been receiving these these these threats when actually he's been the one going out and promoting violent rhetoric since uh since he was brought on campus?
I think personally it's a very sad excuse.
This professor has been promoting doxing in a Santifa handbook.
He believes doxing is an important tool to create a mental burden on far right um people who um identify as far right and right and conservatives in general.
I think that him fleeing is only to um escape accountability from from his actions and his political rhetoric.
I think it it also is to flee persecution from the Trump administration.
Well, and here's the thing, right?
They uh Spain has an extradition treaty with the United States.
And if there is any direct linkages between him and these Antifa groups, which we already know that he's been funding, I certainly think that Interpol could be given a notice very quickly on this.
I want to switch gears for a second because Ava, you were there with me at the rally yesterday.
You've also been volunteering on the Jack Chittarelli campaign.
Talk to me about the vibe on Rutgers campus.
Talk to me about the vibe in New Jersey.
You're a native New Jersey, and what is it like what is it about this candidate that has made the polls so tight in an election year that nobody thought a Republican could ever win in New Jersey, which is supposed to be a blue state?
Yeah, exactly.
Um, you know, it's been very exciting working for Jack.
Um we're super passionate, we're super excited about this election.
I am extremely hopeful that he's gonna win.
And I think, you know, just with everything going on, especially after the uh Charlie Kirk's assassination.
I think, you know, especially for conservative young people of New Jersey, you know, we feel it's our responsibility to get out there and vote.
I mean, you know, especially after this whole Dr. Antifa situation, I think it begs the question of who is educating the next generation of of adults.
Um, you know, I I don't know if you've been keeping up with the No Kings protest that happened just this past weekend, but there was a viral video going around.
Yeah, that woman, Lucy Martinez, who um was like mocking Charlie Kirk's getting shot in the neck, which was so awful to see.
Yes, exactly.
Um, and as apparently she was a elementary school teacher.
I mean, who is teaching the next generation of Americans?
Who is teaching, you know, the next adults?
It's so terrifying to see, and I think that's why we need Jack.
We need Jack as the governor of New Jersey so badly.
I know that um, you know, he'll he'll be able to, you know, help manage, you know, who's teaching who's teaching our children.
Well, that's 100%.
And you look at, and and I have to I have to mention one of the biggest differences, and I I said this on a podcast I was taping earlier.
In in Northern Virginia, one of the reasons that we haven't seen those shifts, Northern Virginia, it's those war, it's those white class Democrats, uh, the white-collar Democrats, um, the you know, sort of like your your upper class Democrats who, you know, they're super liberal, they're at the No Kings protests, they're the ones that supported all the lockdowns, and by the way, Phil Murphy, your governor was one of the biggest tyrants in terms of all that, but now they're gonna run to turn around and say they want no kings.
But it's like you're the one who wouldn't even let like children out of uh go to school or you know, people into their house out of their houses, but okay.
But what I see the difference is is that in New Jersey, it's those working class people in those working class neighborhoods like where we were yesterday up in Dumont, where you see a lot of the you see a lot of the people who just come out and you say, you know what, there's a lot of people who are registered Democrat.
There's a lot of people who may have voted for Democrats in the past, but they are the ones who are turning because of COVID, because of taxes, property taxes, housing taxes, and also because of the massive influx of illegal aliens to New Jersey, and especially the rise of illegal criminal aliens that are in New Jersey, where Jack Chatterelli is the first one to come up and say, you know what, we are going to end the policy.
And I I said this yesterday, the garden state will no longer be a sanctuary state for criminal illegal aliens.
And that just seems like a sea change.
Um back to Megan here.
So, Megan, do you think, just just you know, kind of with your political hat on, do you think New Jersey has what it takes to go red?
Certainly, certainly, Jack.
I believe that it's time for New Jersey to shift red.
I mean, we saw in the last election that Jack Citarelli was very close to winning.
And I believe now that it's in our favor for Jack to win.
It's his turn.
It's his turn to now to become governor.
Well, I mean, I I think it's I think it's exactly right.
He made a joke about uh how he's been in therapy since barely, you know, barely losing in 2021.
But the only way he's gonna win is to go back to Trenton and actually win the race and get out of there.
Uh ladies, thank you so much for coming on.
And and let me just say from the bottom of my heart, thank you for being here.
Students stepping up to become student leaders is what Charlie Kirk was all about.
And Charlie would be Very proud of both of you right now.
I promise you that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for being on.
Give them a follow.
We're gonna put their, we're gonna put their social media out.
It's Megan Dillon, Ava Kwan.
That's the next generation, folks.
The next generation of student leaders.
That's what Charlie fought for.
That's Charlie's legacy.
Because when they come up through the ranks, those are gonna be the next leaders coming through.
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting publishers.
All right, Jack Pasobic.
Here we are back live.
Very excited to have on now the president of the American Principles Project, Terry Schilling joining us.
What's up, Terry?
Hey, Jack, thanks so much for having me, brother.
So I just saw you in New Jersey just a couple weeks ago.
So this is great to be back.
Yeah, we just saw you in New Jersey at the at the Wildwood rally, and then I was back there again last night, or uh, you know, yesterday afternoon up in Bergen County.
It was amazing.
I said, uh, I made a joke about the how the Giants finally beat the Eagles, and I said, you know, you know, because I was in Giants country, right?
Now South Jersey is Eagles, where I'm in good standing, but North Jersey, I brought up the Eagles a couple times.
Oh my gosh.
The crowd, like they looked like they were gonna rush the stage.
And I was like, hold on, guys, hold on, hold on.
Just let me hear me out.
And they're like, you could see it, you know, kind of turn.
I said, wait a minute.
And I said, you know something?
If I could stay in here as an Eagles fan saying that, you know, saying that I support Jack Chatterelli, then maybe just maybe New Jersey can go red because all the Democrats are now crossing the aisle.
I think he's got 12 elected Democrat officials that have crossed over, probably even more than that by the end of the show to be 15, maybe 25, that have endorsed him.
He keeps rolling them out every day.
And you gotta say that's that's I if if if I can go out there and say something nice about the New York Giants, which I hope my dad fortunately my dad was not there, then I think that if he gets that crossover vote, he's gonna win.
No, Jack, I think that's exactly right.
Look, New Jersey.
I I one of the first campaigns I worked on was in 2008.
It was for Congressman Chris Smith.
We're out there fundraising all over South Jersey.
I love South Jersey.
Uh it's all working class people, right?
Common sense people that you know they like their social security, they like their Medicare, but they don't like sterilizing children.
They don't like boys and girls' sports, they don't want boys in girls' locker rooms because they know that problems will happen from that.
Um, but look, if you look at Mikey Cheryl, she's a very weak candidate.
Uh, she supports the entire trans agenda, which by the way is a killer.
Our message testing shows that um, you know, amongst sling voters that eight percent of them shift over to Jack Chitarelli uh when they find out that Mikey Cheryl supports taking away parental rights or giving kids sex change procedures.
It's a common sense state, Jack.
They want to get to work, they want to be able to take care of their families, and they don't want someone like Mikey Cheryl to be transing their sons.
That's exactly right.
And you put that in now now, we were talking a little bit on the break, but but you can tell us on here is is APP getting involved in the race.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
I should have said that.
Uh we're we're over a million dollars now that we're gonna be spending in New Jersey to help uh Jack Cheddarelli get over the top.
We're primarily doing text messaging campaigns and uh and digital campaigns.
We actually, by the way, our ads have some of the highest completion rates of all time.
So you can tell how impactful an ad can be based on how many people are clicking out of it.
And right now, less than three percent of people are clicking out of our ads, they're actually watching the whole thing from completion or at the 97% rate.
So I think these issues are hot.
I think Mikey Sherrill is vulnerable regardless of what the polls say, which by the way, the polls in we're gonna work on that.
I think we uh I think we got a connection issue there with Terry, but you know, I've been looking at these polls as well, and they've been tightening every single week.
And when you get the better the poll that comes out, the better he does, the better he does, the better.
Um, you know, it's actually these these low uh low fidelity polls that have him not doing as well, but the high fidelity polls that are coming out, the high quality polls, he is neck and neck with her.
Uh I you could even say T neck and T neck with her because uh sorry I was driving through there yesterday.
If you're from Jersey, you'll get the joke.
If not, you'll just be like, why are you supposed to doing this again?
The The issues up in that race are so clear.
She is too far to the left for New Jersey.
And those were and again, I'm telling you, those working class voters that I was with yesterday, the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, the Colombians that were coming out in droves, by the way, in North Jersey, Colombians, yeah.
They're not down with the wokeness.
They're not down with this.
And they're also not down with the fact that Mikey Cheryl, and look, by the way, look at her face right there.
You could see it.
That is the dour face of joylessness.
That is not the joy.
Mikey Cheryl is not feeling the joy.
She is feeling the Kamala.
That's the big Kamala face right there.
What does that mean?
That means she's been reading internal polls.
She knows there's trouble.
That's her at a rally, by the way.
And she's trying to, you know, you like you know you're on camera.
You want to try to like, you know, have put on a happy face or something.
No, she can't do it.
Do we have Terry back, guys?
Do we have Terry back there?
Oh here.
Oh, great, Terry.
We we reset you.
But you were you were just kind of walking through that.
You guys are doing fantastic work, a million big ones into the New Jersey race.
That's a huge investment.
No, and that's right.
And we're spending every day making sure that voters in New Jersey know that Mikey Cheryl's a threat.
She's a threat to their children.
She's a threat to their rights as parents.
You know, she's so extreme.
You know, in 2021, uh, Terry McAuliffe got in trouble for saying that he didn't think parents should be telling schools what to teach.
Well, Mikey Sheryl's even more extreme than that.
She voted against the parenta bill of rights, which was just a transparency bill.
It just simply told parents what schools were teaching.
She's against not only does she not want parents telling schools to teach, she doesn't even want parents to know what schools are teaching their children.
She's a radical and she needs to go.
You know, she's she's just too far to the left.
She's way too far to the left for uh, you know, for New Jersey.
And, you know, and and Terry, you're you're a great political strategist, and people maybe not don't realize that about you because you know they mostly know you for your um uh for your campaigns, your crusades against wokeism, but you're an excellent political strategist, and of course you get that from your father who taught you so much about it, you know, learning learning at his knee.
Uh New Jersey doesn't exactly track the way that Virginia does.
And I was trying to explain this difference because the Virginia Democrats, that's more of a white-collar Democrat, but a New Jersey Democrat is more of a blue-collar Democrat.
And those blue-collar Democrats are not on board with this radical wokeness.
They're just not.
And that's why those issues can play there.
I'm not saying they don't play in Virginia, but I'm that's why I'm saying that those issues can generate these types of crossover voters in a place like New Jersey, where honestly, and I'm, you know, I've got to say it, it's the new adage that's going around.
New Jersey might be the next Pennsylvania.
Uh no, Jack, I think you're exactly right.
And there is a big difference between the Democrats in New Jersey and the Democrats in Virginia.
Now, to be clear, these trans issues are repulsive to voters in either in both states.
But the reality is, and I wasn't trying to say that.
But the Virginia's where we have Louden County.
Yes.
And they still haven't corrected, right?
And we need to take advantage of that.
But these Democrats in Northern Virginia, they're the types that will call child protective services on you if you don't trans your kid, right?
Like that's how how woke and disgusting.
And you in Northern Virginia, they have the hate has no home here signs in every every front lawn, right?
In New Jersey, though, it's very, you know, common sense.
It's working class, they want to make enough money to put food on the table so that they can send their kids uh to you know get the right apprenticeships and take care of them and so that their kids can afford homes and houses for their families.
It's a totally different class uh of voters, and and I think New Jersey's prime for the taking.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And and when you when you look at the preponderance of this, when you look at where New Jersey's at, and the I I'm just gonna say it, you know, if you told me 10 years ago, 15 years ago that there'd be a grassroots movement to elect a Republican in New Jersey, I would have looked, I would be like, what are you talking about?
Like that's just not even not even anywhere near the cards.
However, when you look into the actual polling, especially the 2024 uh election outcomes, every single county of New Jersey.
This is even on Wikipedia, right?
They have they'll they'll scrub it after we talked about it today.
But even on Wikipedia, what did it show?
A county shift in every single county towards red.
And it shifted red on on a variety of issues, but you know, tr trans and women's in uh, you know, men and girls' sports, that's a huge one.
And the other huge one, of course, is the effect of illegal alien crime, illegal alien violence.
Because you know who doesn't want that?
People in the suburbs, as specific and specifically, if I could talk suburban women, I need some more blackout coffee.
Uh, the suburban women are just not down for this.
No, they're not.
And and the suburban women aren't with the Democrats' agenda on a lot of things.
Uh, they they don't want men and their daughters showers, they don't want them in their locker rooms.
They they they want to get back to normalcy.
But most importantly, Jack, women in in New Jersey and all across the country, they want to say in what their kids are learning in school, right?
And they first and foremost need to know about what their kids are learning in school so that they can have an opinion on it.
And Democrats like Mikey Cheryl and even Abigail Spamberger in Virginia, they don't think parents should have anything to do with their kids' education.
They don't view parents as being the primary educators.
They view them as being the people that just pay the bills.
They want to raise your children.
Why?
Because they aren't having children of their own, right?
They've been telling their kids, they've been telling, they've been told by their parents to have as few children as possible and get married only if you have to.
These are different people.
They don't come from the same background as us.
You know, Jack, you and I, we know normal people.
We are normal people.
We know that our families are our pride and joy.
They're the only thing that really matters in this life.
And these these democrats that that are running for office, they think that families are a hurdle.
They think that they're an obstacle to your true legacy, which is apparently becoming governor of New Jersey.
No, they're uh you're right, by the way, to draw them from kind of the same, they're cut from the same claw, Spamberger and Cheryl.
It's like it's like Obama's just got some like recruiting seminar, and like they all walk in together.
They kind of look alike.
Like if you like if you close your eyes a little bit, you might mistake one for the other.
I'm gonna get in trouble for that one.
Folks, we'll be right back before we get canceled, unless we get canceled during the break.
Jack Pasobic, we're on with Terry Schilling.
He's got a huge announcement coming up next about age verification laws and the fight against online pornography.
When we come back, human events daily, real marker's books.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're gonna turn it around and make our country right again.
Amen.
Amen.
All right, Jack Pasobic.
We're back here.
Human events daily on with my good friend.
And by the way, someone who was a good friend of Charlie Kirk, and someone who Charlie Kirk was a massive supporter of Terry Schilling and the American Principles Project.
Terry, just I want to get into the the age verification stuff, but just give me a minute and talk about how Char how how much Charlie uh put a significance and a priority on the work of APP.
Well, thanks so much, Jack.
And you're right, he he was a very good supporter of ours, and uh he was a very good friend.
I I went after he passed away, it was just my whole family, we were all distraught.
And I was going back through our text messages because we had just been going back and forth about, you know, we were debating about uh Mary.
Uh and uh, you know, it's interesting because when we were on the the Lincoln fellowship together at Claremont, and I remember at the time, this is 2020, um, 2021, uh, when he got accepted and it was announced.
But I remember finding out that he was accepted.
And I remember being kind of like puzzled, right?
Because Claremont is very much not libertarian.
Um, and Charlie at the time kind of had like this libertarian brand, although he was transitioning, and I remember going to Matthew Peterson at Claremont and saying, like, hey, like, what's up with picking Charlie?
Like, he's a libertarian.
And Matt does this thing with his furrowed brow, and he goes, actually, uh, Charlie's kind of gotten based.
You might want to check him out.
And so I went into that fellowship with him, like totally open-minded, but skeptical because of all the hype around him.
But I was blown away, Jack, by how powerful and how smart and how good he was.
When I told him what, you know, you do the introductions section uh at Claremont, and I told the room that, you know, I'm president of American Princeton's Project and we're building the NRA for families.
He was like not paying attention.
Then he heard NRA for families, and his eyes like lit up and he looked at me.
And then afterwards he beelined it to me and said, We have to do this for the family.
It's the most important institution.
And he said, This is exactly what the country needs.
I want to help you whatever way I can.
You know, Jack, he gave me a free booth at Anfest that year.
He had me on the main stage to talk about what we were doing at APP.
He was constantly checking in with me to see how the movement was going, what we needed at APP.
We would talk a lot of times about how to get to certain donors together.
He was just an all-around, he never asked me for a dime.
You know what I mean?
And I think of like people like you, like Steve Bannon, like Charlie, who do all this work to help people, and you never ask people for a penny uh to do it.
And so I'm just so grateful for Charlie and his legacy.
I can't wait to see what turning point and Erica and you and all those guys do uh with Turning Point.
I hope to be a major part of it because um I think it's clear that uh he what happened to Charlie happened because of the the difference, the huge difference that he was making for.
Oh, that's right.
And oh guys, are we are we getting a oh wait, I think we still have Terry.
But again, and and it was, and it's and it's no surprise to me, by the way, that there was a transgender issue involved in Charlie's murder.
That um the again, quote unquote alleged suspect was someone who is in a sexual relationship with a transgender, uh, someone who was also viewed, by the way, also someone who was viewing extreme online pornography, and at the age of 21 was perhaps more than likely had begun viewing extreme online pornography before the age of 18, possibly while as a minor.
Uh wait, guys, do we have Terry?
Do we lose Terry?
I think okay, great.
So, Terry, talk to me a little bit about how your fight again again, well, I should say against online pornography, but specifically for online pornography use for minors is going and is so important because I mean, let's just say it, you know, I I don't think that Tyler Robinson started viewing extreme online,
what's called furry porn, uh, which included underage furries, or what's referred to in their lingo, which a term I had to I had to find out, cub porn, as opposed to child porn.
Uh so cub porn was something that he was viewing.
And, you know, it doesn't start with extreme stuff, but it does unfortunately start many times when they're very, very young.
Terry, talk to me a little bit about this and the fight that APP hasn't been involved in.
Well, Jack, uh, we're up to 24 states now that are protecting minors from online content from online adult content.
Uh it's a big deal.
Uh, and the latest bit of news uh came out when Arizona's law went into effect, basically Pornhub pulled out.
Uh, and they said we're not gonna serve our material in this state uh because we're not gonna comply with age verification.
The thing is, Jack, age verification is ubiquitous online.
Uh the online uh gambling uh websites use it, very cost effective.
The alcohol websites use it, the tobacco and nicotine websites use it, uh the even the marijuana dispensaries online use age verification.
It doesn't cost much, but I think ultimately what this tells us, Jack, about the online porn industry is that they're actually not geared towards adults, that their entire business model is geared towards our children.
And what they want, what they desire is that for children to see pornography before they ever kiss a girl, before they ever have that experience of making love for the first time.
They want kids to watch porn because the reality is that if you kiss a girl before you see porn, if you uh you know, you know, make love to a girl before you see porn, you're gonna look at porn a lot different way.
You're gonna think of it as really weird and terrible and and objectifying of women, right?
So they the whole model that online porn has is geared towards your children and geared towards young men.
Uh, and they want a they envision a world where every kid uh is watching porn nonstop because that's how you get to be watching as an adult.
Well, and and this online you know, pornography That it gets more and more extreme.
And that's also part of the business model of these companies.
That's why, by the way, when age verification laws get passed, Pornhub very, and it's so obvious they're targeting minors because when the age verification laws get passed, they don't sit there and continue their business.
No, they leave and they shut down in the entire state and go on.
That's an obvious uh recognition and acknowledgement that they're showing this stuff to people who are very young.
But unfortunately, we've seen the sliding scale where they start with, you know, uh, you know, I I don't want to say like, you know, normal uh pornography, quote unquote, but I'm just gonna say that it starts with um, you know, it starts with lower level stuff and then it becomes more and more extreme as you go.
And I'm just gonna, you know, I'm just gonna say it.
It seems to me that online pornography played a role in the extreme radicalization of Tyler Robinson before he went up on that roof and shot Charlie Kirk.
No, no, Jack, that's exactly right.
Uh, the reality is is that most young boys uh start off with porn just looking at naked women, right?
Uh that's where they start.
Uh, but it progresses and uh progresses.
And what we know is that early pornography use almost always leads to erectile dysfunction, right?
Uh, any of your viewers, uh, if you're in the 30 year age range, the 30 between 30 and 40, you're when you're 20s, you might notice that you get ads uh for hymns uh and for roe, which are erectile dysfunction medications.
Why is that, right?
Erectile dysfunction for almost all of human history has been an old man's disease.
Uh, but the reality is is that pornography causes that.
And these erectile dysfunction companies like HIMS and like Roe, they know that.
And so they all have this best interest.
Jack, I think the thing that's terrible about the America that we find ourselves in is that the left has all of these industries that profit off of our dysfunction, that profit off of institutionalizing sin and chaos and disorder and the objectification of our fellow man.
Uh, and then they use those profits to build more industries like the erectile dysfunction industry, and then they use that all to get more customers, to reach more children, to get more people hooked on porn.
The reality is is that the the porn doesn't just impact our our erectile dysfunction, it impacts all of sexuality.
And I know that from talking to social workers who work with children who've been sexually abused, and they said that they told me something harrowing that around the 19 late 1990s and and 2000s, they the social workers started noticing that uh children were being abused in in much different ways that prior to online porn.
Um, and they can go more into details, but it's absolutely atrocious.
Porn impacts every single aspect of our society.
This is what we're up against, folks.
This is what we're fighting against.
And this played a role.
I'm just gonna say it this played a role in the murder of our friend Charlie Kirk.
Terry Schilling, where can people go to follow you and get access to APP?
Uh, just go to American Principles Project.org or follow me all across social media at shilling 1776.
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Thank you so much, man.
God bless.
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