Oct. 11, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 100 — Turning Point Halftime? Potatoes and Katie Porter? Hasan the Dog Shocker?
The Thoughtcrime crew welcomes Mikey McCoy into the fold as they discuss the pending plans for Turning Point's alternative Super Bowl halftime. They then relish the ongoing implosion of Democrat "rising star" Katie Porter, and Blake delivers an important apology to the potato community. The gang asks whether Hasan Piker's animal cruelty says more about him than his actual political views. Support the show
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Ladies and gentlemen, it is once again time for Thought Crime Thursday.
I am Jack Pasobic.
As you know, my co-host Charlie Kirk is out on assignment with God, but we've had a huge week here, an incredible week.
We've got a lot of the crew in studio.
I'm in DC right now.
I want to thank CPI, by the way, for allowing me to use their incredible studio here.
But we've got the rest of the gang back in Phoenix right now.
And I believe we've got, let's see, Blake Neff.
What's up, Blake?
Oh, I'm doing great.
And Tyler Boyer is going to be joining us in just a few minutes.
He's wrapping up something.
But for the very first time on Thought Crime, we have Mr. Michael McCoy.
What's up, man?
It's my debut on Thought Crime.
I'm so honored.
Thank you for having me, guys.
All right.
Now do you feel good about it?
Does it feel weird?
Is it different?
It's very different.
It does.
The red is really it.
You have to get used to it.
You know?
No, no, yeah.
It's it's it's very ominous.
It's it's like this is the this is the show where we get in trouble on purpose.
I love it.
This is my own.
And we have the great Tyler Boyer.
Tyler's here in the house here.
Tyler said, Yeah, yeah, there he is.
Tyler will make his marks.
Don't worry.
What's up, Tyler?
How are we doing?
He's in, he's saying, How are we doing, Tyler?
How are you doing?
It's it's rainy.
How are you doing?
Yeah, it's it's like a typhoon here.
I am once again.
I would like to once again to emphasize that I was told Phoenix was in a desert, and this is a complete lie.
A couple weeks ago, we got hit by that typhoon.
It rained like eight inches in one day or something.
I didn't have to do irrigation.
I didn't have to do irrigation.
It was incredible.
Yeah, like I feel like it's not you're not in a desert if it rains enough that your airport has to shut down due to how intense the rain is.
I think this is the most amount of rain that we've gotten in some like 20-something years.
Where is Jack right now?
CPI Studio, DC.
Uh Studios in DC.
Huge shout out to CPI, by the way, for uh so I just got done speaking at their uh off the record, even though it wasn't on the record off the record, and spent a lot of time with uh Chris Bedford, and you know, we had a great discussion, uh really really talking about Charlie a lot and kind of what this means, you know, going forward, what turning point's up to.
And uh, and I said, Look, you know, it's Thursday, so we do the we do the Thought Crime, and they said, Hey, we've got a great studio.
Why don't you go over and use it?
And I I said, gosh, I I'd be honored.
So here we are.
That's great.
And you know, it's interesting because that gets us to our first topic that a lot of people are asking about.
There's so many emails about this.
Um, gosh, I can't even imagine who would come up with such a crazy idea as this, probably just some you know, no good nick near to well.
Is this true?
Can you guys confirm this?
Turning point USA is hosting an all-American halftime show.
This is true.
We announced it.
I actually we talked about this earlier on the show, but within like an hour of posting it, Corey Asbury and Forest Frank, people were so confused.
They're like, is this the Corey Asbury one?
Is this the fourth one?
And so Corey had was a little confused.
He posted on his story about it.
He commented on ours, but then um Corey was kind enough to reach out.
I jumped on a call with him this morning for like 30 minutes, and we're we built the bridge.
Yeah, we're gonna partner on this one, and allegedly, maybe more to come.
Maybe it's not announced.
TVA.
T yeah, TBD, we'll see.
Yeah.
What I love about all of this is that we have to obscure what it's the halftime of because a popular American sports league is extremely territorial about the name of a certain sporting event.
Yeah.
Pay attention to this when the sporting event comes around next February.
Like, look at ads and like deals that supermarkets and restaurants are putting on because they won't mention the sporting event.
They'll always just call it the big game.
Yeah, and then this, you know, major American sports entity.
I know what you're talking about.
And this major American sports entity got so peeved about that they tried to also trademark the phrase the big game.
Wait, what?
Yes.
That's how lame they are.
Yes.
That is like how lame mega lame they are.
Why wouldn't you want people talking about your incredible product that you made that's incredible sporting event?
It's just like they're like, no, we don't want people talking about our our product.
I think we start calling Amphest crazy the big event.
No, we want people talking about Amphest.
We're never gonna do that to people.
Say, except when people the only issue I have is what people call Amerifest.
It's a that I do that a lot.
I do that a lot.
No, I'm like, I always correct people.
I'm like, you mean America Fest.
America Fest okay.
Yeah, Amphest.
Why is Amerifest not acceptable?
Because that's a really that's something that's like a really boomer.
I'm with Tyler.
I'm with Tyler.
No, that's awful.
What?
There's no such thing as a mere because it sounds like Americare or like uh it sounds like an insurance company.
Yeah, it sounds like an insurance company.
That's true.
Or like an auto insurance coming.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, or anyways, back over like back to the big game.
The big game.
So maggable.
We should just start calling it maggable.
Just maggable.
So like I I started this on Twitter, like kind of going rogue, and then we had Tim Pool last week on the main show, and then we were talking about it, and and it just went like crazy.
I've when I see virality, and this is because by the way, I was just we're just gonna we have to say it because this is being done in response.
And and so, you know, I've never seen virality like this.
I've never seen a response like this from anything.
And well, Blake, you know, I know we've talked about a few times, but the the sporting event has announced that their halftime show, and this is by the way, this is why it opened up.
This is why, like when you're when you're running a movement like we have um in in America today, like the MAGA movement, whatever you want to call it, that you you're always sort of reacting to what is going on in the culture and in the mainstream.
And Blake, could you walk us through the the sad, sad saga of bad bunny?
Oh man, the bad well, actually, I can't really because I've barely heard of bad bunny.
I so I had never heard just in the just in the last few weeks.
What it what you know?
I guess so the the the bunny who is bad, uh despite the name, he is not actually a rabbit or a hare of any kind.
He is a person, he's a person from Puerto Rico.
Uh he does some form of music that I am told is popular with certain people.
And I oh man, that that's that's really garish.
Uh okay, okay.
Anyway, he does he does some sort of like reggaeton music, I think.
Welcome to Thought Crime, Michael.
Yeah, guys, I'm a comfortable.
Yeah, and so he does this sort of music all in Spanish, it's all in Spanish.
They have booked him for the Super Bowl halftime because Jay-Z, oh sorry, the big game halftime.
Uh Jay-Z has like soul control over the Super Bowl halftime.
Wait, can you not even talk about the Super Bowl?
If you say it three times in too narrow of a period, Roger Goodell appears behind you and stabs you in the mirror.
No, we it's just that we can't, okay.
We can't say that our halftime show is a sporting event, halftime show.
It has no real it is, it is not part of the sporting event that is also going on at the same time.
Ours is the turning point halftime show, the turning point all American halftime show.
Theirs is the Super Bowl halftime show.
That's what we're talking about.
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
Anyway, so the Super Bowl halftime show.
Uh so bad bunny, he all he only performs in Spanish, and he's also this deranged lib.
He's been boycotting America because he doesn't, he says that ice would like disrupt his concerts.
Uh it is apparent, it appears quite plausible, if not likely, that he will deliver some sort of political screed at the physically large game.
And the bigger band.
Do you guys remember how like controversial Ricky Martin was in the Hispanic community?
No.
Over all the gay stuff.
No.
Do you remember this, Chad?
No.
Yeah, I remember this.
Do you remember like old to know this?
Yeah, kind of.
Yeah, kinda.
But I mean it's not our old.
I I was thinking about this today.
I was like, remember how like up in arms everybody was about gay Ricky Martin?
Because everyone's like, oh my gosh, Ricky Martin's gay.
And like, look how far we've come.
The like Hispanic culture has slid where it's like bad bunny is even like a lot of Hispanics.
look.
I I've grown up around a ton of Hispanics.
I'm not Hispanic myself, but I grew up in Arizona.
The state has been like founded on this convergence of like you know, Hispanic culture, Native American culture, you know, uh a pioneer culture, and you have like the like most wretched, uh violent, anti-Christian.
Like, this isn't this is like trans propaganda that's being promoted by Bad Bunny, and it's it's nowhere near cool.
And like I'm just thinking back to like remember how like like crazy people went over the Ricky Martin stuff.
I don't know if you remember any of this at all.
Uh Jack, but like No, I do because like we because Tyler, you you and I, as like the you know, the like the centennials, the Gen Y, Elder Millennials, whatever you want to call it.
That like we remember the world as it was in the before time.
Yeah so like this sort of stuff wasn't normalized.
So when someone would come out and they'd be like, oh my gosh, you know, it would actually be a huge deal.
Whereas today, you know, like everyone comes up and they're like, I'm bi, I'm queer, I'm trans, I'm this, I'm that.
And it's like, oh yeah, yeah, we know you like that's just like all celebrities.
Like, you're not even allowed to be a celebrity if you're not one of the alphabet uh club members anymore, which is like, and it's just so completely force memed down everybody's throat that people are like they don't even care.
But it wasn't even that long ago, where like Ricky Martin coming out was a huge, huge deal.
Yeah, yeah.
I just had to Google this.
Is Bad Bunny gay?
And Google's telling me no.
How do you I don't think you can dress like that?
I don't I don't know.
I don't know if he's gay or not, but the point is he's like promoting.
I believe he's considered an ally.
He uh okay, he was dressed as a trans person on the music video.
This is what it's the gay times, which is a publication, uh had an article yesterday five times bad bunny approved he's the ultimate LGBTQ plus ally.
So I think that's a safe tell that he's not actually so he's actually all of them.
So Bad Bunny is actually L G B T Q and plus.
Yeah, well, you I mean, you're definitely he's definitely covering the Q part.
He's definitely covering the Q. I'm not sure, like walking back, he's he's promoting trans.
We're not sure if he's LG or B, right?
Yeah, but it's probably I mean probably it's probably it's like it's it's definitely being promoted.
I had a we had a meeting, a marketing meeting.
Marina was like, didn't you hear the news?
And I was like, what?
And she goes, Selena Gomez and Bad Bunny got married.
Like, no, I think that was Benny Blanco.
She's like, no, no, no, it was definitely it was definitely bad bunny.
And so we had to pull up the picture and see what do you guys think?
Which one looks more alike?
Do you think they look alike bad bunny and Benny Blanco?
I mean, I can understand how you would mess that up, though.
The alert I can get that.
Well, and the names are kind of kind of as a side note.
Is it weird to anyone else that he is he performs exclusively in Spanish, but his name is Bad Bunny, an English term that that's throwing me off in an annoying way?
Well, nobody talked about this today, but I think it's you know, we pit bull was like one of the only rappers, obviously Hispanic, does a lot of Spanish, was one of the only guys that came out for Trump big time in 2020.
He kind of chilled out in 2024.
I didn't really see him out a whole bunch talking about Trump, but yeah, maybe we should hit up Pitbull.
He he uh he did some stuff with Ana Paulina.
He is apparently considered the king of Latin trap, which I can definitely see how Trap got involved with his identity based on those clips we were showing.
Like in like weird in in Spanish, I looked it up in Spanish, Bad Bunny would be uh, I don't know if I'm saying this right, conejito malo, conojito malo or conejomalo malo.
Is that actually like bunny or is it rabbit or hair or something?
It's bunny.
Oh, okay.
Uh I real quick, I do want to hit this because uh thank you for the donation message we hear.
We have uh gas station sushi 26 asked how Would uh Charlie have felt about a Maori Haka tribute done for him in London.
I have not seen that, and now I want to watch it because that sounds nifty.
I I feel actually I do wonder about that because like a religious pagan thing, but I think now they do it at Christian gatherings in New Zealand among Maori.
So he'd probably be okay with that as long as it was sufficiently Christianized.
It was great.
I saw that video.
And also he'd probably think it was cool because it's like people screaming for him, and it's way better than all those horrible hackas they've had where it's like liberal women screaming a haka while they like rip Harry Potter books in half or something.
There's been some strange appropriations of that.
Well, well, while we while we pull the video up, I wanna I want to go through because so Bad Bunny, not only does he get announced this way in in a sense where like he he's just not popular in the English speaking uh world, and or you know, I have to say it, he's like the English speaking part of America because it's c sort of part of the bifurcation of America, where he's extremely popular in Hispanic circles, and yet English speakers just don't know him, just not familiar with him.
And then he goes on Saturday Night Live and uh does this monologue that goes viral where he starts speaking in Spanish and saying how this is this is for you, this isn't for the English speakers, this is what it's all about, and then he switches back to English and says, Oh, and by the way, uh you know, for if you didn't understand that, you have four months to learn Spanish.
And then the TMZ had this article about him that uh video basically where he gets captured.
I think it was at the Yankees game.
Um they're in the playoffs right now, and he was filmed during God Bless America, and everyone around him is standing up, and he just stays he just stays sitting down.
So this guy, and and I don't want to go too deep into Bad Bunny, but he's been so completely obnoxious and odious and divisive to America and to American culture that and Jay-Z, of course, who runs through Rock Nation, the selection process, it got to the point where I said, you know what, turning point should just hold a halftime show.
Just turning point should do a show, and at the time I said they should get creed and uh you know, no no announcements on on musical acts yet.
But you know, it was so obnoxious that I just had to say it.
So you guys are there.
I haven't been in Phoenix this week.
Walk me through how did this actually come about?
Yeah, I I also today on the show, Andrew gave you huge props, Jack.
He said this I just want to point out this idea originally came from Jack.
So Jack Jack actually are getting endless emails about who the musical act should be.
Like, we've gotten like 10 in the last 10 minutes, basically.
Jack Jack joined the ranks of people making suggestions of what turning point should do.
Yeah, did it, it went viral because everything goes viral about every suggestion that's good right now, and now we're forced to do it.
It's like literally, it's like literally prison uh at turning point.
What's the thing every time someone comes in with a good idea and it's like Jack and Andrew on the show every day coming up with things, yeah, Benny, like everybody's like saying stuff, and then like we're forced to do it.
The white picking up my phone.
What?
The white shirts at the football game.
What is that?
What is that?
That's yeah, it's like everyone should start doing stuff.
I there's this line that liberals like a lot that uh they'll they'll say nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.
And I guess that's perfectly.
Wait, can I can I point something out real quickly?
I just realized this.
I guess the term trap also refers to someone you can't determine their job.
Just learning this now.
I don't know.
I'm like, I'm gonna play this.
Did you go to a Charlie's go to a trap party and you're gonna do it?
I'm playing the role of Charlie.
You don't know what traps are.
No, I mean, yeah, I kind of like maybe hearing it like in context.
Like I have to do.
I still have no idea what you guys are talking about.
It's ti I are you guys just becoming our like.
I'm gonna be like Charlie Kirk.
I might be like Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, yeah.
You're our Charlie now.
You're our Charlie now being a good thing.
Is that where the term trap music comes from?
I don't think so.
No, they're not related, right?
So it's not it's not the same thing.
Wait, wait, so that isn't that like really weird that that the person whose gender we can't that's what that's the joke I made earlier.
Oh yeah.
It was like I was king of Latin trap.
And I I understood why he was called that.
Yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
It comes from trap.
It comes from Trap House, which is a house that sells drugs.
Yeah.
So that's totally different.
But like trap, right?
A trap means like you you go out with this, like, like you're let's say you're in Thailand, which I've never been to for the record.
But let's say, for instance, you're in Thailand, you go out with some girl, she's real cute.
You get home, she goes, I've got a secret.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
We've gone.
We've gone trap.
We just need a letter.
However, this has given rise to the great internet question.
Are traps gay?
Yes.
That's our that's where we started.
I like Thought 100%.
100%.
I I like this show.
Yeah.
This is this show always does well.
This is great.
Every week this show, this show, yeah, hits hits numbers like we've never seen before because we educate each other on all these words, these these terminologies that nobody has ever really heard of, really understands, really gets into.
I'm I'm just picturing by the way.
The answer is the answer to the question, of course, is yes, but they're only gay from the moment you find out.
Uh yeah.
I uh uh I don't like this.
Listen.
Listen, I I question people who you know, you know, this is why everyone should question old men who go on vacation to Thailand, and everyone should be questioning anyone that's like old.
I do I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying that we have to do.
I'm really enjoying that we have live chat because Mike's wife, that's the name of the account, has commented, please explain trap, and now is going to be a good thing.
I don't even know what this Mike, I don't even know what trap I'm all equally as confused as you.
Yeah.
Wait, is that is that actually Mike's wife?
I have no idea.
Their their username is Mike's wife US, and Mikey has a wife.
That is in the US.
Elizabeth, is this you?
Is that actually Elizabeth?
It'd be pretty funny.
It'd be pretty funny if it was.
Elizabeth said, No, it's not me.
I really didn't know that.
Trap is another.
I I I I want to apologize.
I would have I should have never imagined that your wife would be unfamiliar with that important piece of internet.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, she's she's a smart woman.
She said she knows what it is.
That's good.
Yeah.
Well educated woman.
Well educated.
I mean, but then so okay, so but but but that being said, all right, so Tyler, so so the the the thought process, so I get it.
So it goes viral, everybody wants it, but but at some point, you know, the decision had to be made.
So, you know, I've seen, you know, and Andrew, by the way, who's who is not gracing us with his presence, who is totally slacking on thought crime and will be made to answer for this next week, by the way.
Um, isn't here to share it with us.
So you guys gotta give me a scoop.
What was it that kind of that kind of like pushed the you know, pushed it into the yes column?
Well, I I did my job.
So as soon as this went viral, I was peppering everybody else and saying, I think we should do it, I think we should do it.
I think we should do it.
So I think I don't think it was any single person, but I think everybody together was like looking into it.
And and you know, God bless all of the staff at Turning Point USA, Mikey, uh Justin, all the events team, like nobody really shot it down.
See, this is the thing.
When new things come onto the scene at Turning Point, it if it's it's really democratic how the process works.
Yeah, if everybody kind of agrees on stuff, and this and this isn't new, right?
This is always been the case.
Obviously, Charlie uh, you know, would kind of just like go around and be like, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this to every single person, and then he would kind of seed it, and then like we'd be like, all right, let's vote on it, basically.
And we bring it to the chat, and then everyone would be like, Oh, yeah.
And we should give credit also to you know, the the supporters out there.
We have our freedom at Charlie Kirk email with the show.
Oh, yeah, that's just 90 million means.
I think literally 50% of our emails at any time are just about this.
We're getting them throughout the night throughout the show.
We're getting them right now.
I we just got one in this like past minute.
And it what's amazing about it is it's from someone who seems they say, How about an alternative halftime show?
That's right.
And I think they're they actually don't know yet that we've done it already.
That's right.
But there's just lots of people love the idea.
And that's and that's also the point too, is like you've got to get it out there and like keep saying it over and over because ultimately, You know, that that's the thing that people don't realize is marketing any event that Turning Point's ever done.
Like we've built a really nice brand with America Fest.
Yeah.
But it's like that started, and people don't realize that started as a party at CPAC.
And we took that and we ran with it.
And then we I was like, we need to turn that to a brand, and then we created a whole brand.
But still, like a vast majority of people don't know that America Fest exists.
And once they figure it out, and then they figure out how to get to it and all that stuff.
So it's not easy to build a brand and an idea and a party or a an event and then make sure everyone knows because ultimately the event happens and then people miss it and they go, Oh, I wish I would have watched it.
And unlike a certain major professional sports league, we are never going to make it so it's illegal, or like you'll get sued if you refer to America Fest.
If we'll never have to have people refer to the big event, the big con the hetero.
Yeah, the Hedrow event.
The good news is we are announcing our first singer.
We are.
Blake Neff.
What?
Never surrender.
I am headlining.
Wait, I thought we weren't announcing that yet.
Dude, did I let that I let the cat out of the bag?
Oh dear.
That'll that'll shut down the event pretty fast.
Can you give us a little teaser, Blake?
Uh really?
Are you gonna make me do this?
Come on.
The audience wants Does the audience actually want it?
I need to see what the I need to see what the actual masses say.
No, no, they're yelling at Blake.
Blake Neff will be singing I Will Survive.
No, no, I'm definitely not going to sing that.
No, people don't realize that uh that Blake is actually a six-time uh regional karaoke winner.
Um, I will survive is uh one of his go-to as well as several.
Hold on.
Oh, hold on.
I'm not going to sing I will survive, but I will I'm always a fan of the 80s heavy metal band Saxon from the U.S. Never Surrender, 2000 surrender.
Not surrender up against so whoa!
Surrender Stand up!
Fight them all!
Go look it up.
All right, I don't know.
I just got this reminds me of uh just sold a hundred tickets right there.
We just sold a hundred tickets.
That's great.
Yeah, a hundred tickets.
I know hundred tickets so people can like line up to like you just reminded me.
Get your tickets now.
This is gonna sell out real fast, folks.
You I don't know why you just reminded me of Mike White.
Yes.
You remind me of Mike White in uh you know it's buddies with Jack Black and all the stuff he does.
Oh dear.
Oh man.
Not not conservatives.
Oh no, that was that was a this isn't thought crime, this is like voice crime now.
There's a lot of crimes going on.
No, it's karaoke crime.
Karaoke definitely that.
We've had a couple of good ideas on Thought Crime.
One is that we should bring all our moms on to take our place and let them do this for one.
Remember, we talked about that?
I don't, but I support that.
From the Other Days Special, then we talked about that with Jack, that all our moms would come on, and instead of it being us, they would just all talk to us.
I'm almost sad we spoiled this idea now.
It's a great idea.
The second should be karaoke crime.
We would do nothing but karaoke crime.
Yeah, this is this is like when we occasionally mob crime again.
We're getting like weirder and weirder.
This is gonna end with me having to like do a 24-hour Twitch stream where I play Age of Empires or something.
No, time out.
Charlie One of Charlie's ideas was to do a 24-hour live stream.
We have I know what you're talking about.
No, I remember we talked about we were gonna do we were gonna do shifts and we were gonna have like cots set up and like people could sleep and then come back and we're gonna do a live stream for 24 hours.
Well, I was gonna do my gimmick.
I was Charlie's the gimmick I was ready for was during the election.
I was gonna stay live until it was called, but then we kicked so much butt it was over by midnight.
Yeah, uh Tyler, does this classify as one of those really good ideas that comes to fruition?
What's that?
The 24 hour stream.
I think we need to make it happen.
So the background on this that nobody knows, or we haven't talked about in a long time, was we did so well on the live stream after 2020.
Yeah, that I think it was 2020 that Charlie or it was well, everything was up in the air.
Remember, we were we were going live like every day for like two weeks or three weeks or whatever it was, and Charlie was like, we need to do a 24-hour live stream.
We'll just bring everybody on, like all of our friends, and we'll just go go go go go like 24 straight hours.
So yeah, I think we need to do it.
We'll make a graphic, we'll put it out there, and now it's a date.
Yeah, we're gonna stuff to make it interesting.
The graphic team is on it.
For the 2026 election night, we're gonna do 24 hours of pure live streaming started at like noon the day before until noon the day next.
I love this.
I love it.
Should we get to should we talk Katie Porter?
Katie Portato.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, guys.
Before we get into it.
Before we get into this, before we get into this, actually, before we get into this at all, can can you guys play?
This is not on this on the on the clip sheet or excuse me on the on the topic list.
guys play clip 140.
*Sharry singing*
This is the unif that's the University of North Dakota right now, Blake Neff, son of the Dakotas.
Uh that's from the tour tonight.
I mean, that's three balcony.
That is like 70% of the population of North Dakota.
I think probably I have some relatives in there.
Dude, that's probably.
Every single person is holding a Charlie Kirk.
By the way, if you want to say if you want a thought crime right now, I'll shout out anyone watching from North Dakota.
It is the fighting Sue forever.
None of this fighting hawks nonsense.
It is always the fighting Sue.
Forever and ever.
Regional territorial battles.
I just gotta say, it's it's it's been amazing to see.
There, I don't know the exact numbers yet, but that's several thousand people.
There's no question.
We had what it was, you know, 4500 people in Montana State two nights ago.
Um, these numbers.
I mean, uh Mikey, you've been you've been out there.
Have the tours seen numbers like this before?
Yeah, we we have, but not consistently in evening events like this.
And so Charlie would uh towards the end, really loved doing the prove me wrong.
So we last semester we did like 28 of them.
This semester we were supposed to do 30 plus.
Um and so, but we kept all the evening stops, and these are the biggest venues because Charlie is pushing the team just hard non-stop.
Get the arenas, get the massive venues, get the amphitheaters.
So we did, we got them all.
And so now what we're seeing is Charlie's not there, but all of these students are still showing up to support his legacy and his mission.
And the speakers are there.
You're hearing every night last night you heard in Montana or two nights ago, that was Montana State.
Charlie, Charlie, tonight, North Dakota.
And we have some really big ones coming up.
We're talking 10,000, 9,000 arenas with some really big guests soon.
It will be announced, but very exciting.
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna that's huge.
That's by the way.
We I should I I I'm remiss for saying this is episode 100.
This is actually episode 100 of uh of Thought Crime.
So was I graced enough to come on?
I think it actually might be 101 because I think we doubled an episode.
Silence.
Call it episode 100.
For my sake, call it 100.
Oh, that's that's pretty incredible.
100 episodes a lot, 100 weeks, hundreds of two years.
So that's almost two years.
Yeah, it'd be 54 weeks be two years.
I don't think we did.
We started June or July in reality.
So we missed some weeks here and there, and you know, different things.
Some were not numbered episodes, I believe.
Because they were specialties or or some such.
That's kind of crazy.
We've been doing this for two plus years.
Wow, that's crazy.
And honor chart.
That's really crazy because we I think when we first started this, we were like, we're never ever gonna do this.
And you know, like every week we're gonna get canceled, and then uh, and then the show started giving us uh started giving us more problems externally than it did, you know.
But but we kept doing it, we kept doing it pushing through for everything.
So the thought crimes will continue.
And as such, there was someone who committed a bit of a thought crime earlier today, or I believe earlier this week, and Blake Neff, Blake Neff is now prepared to make his very first public apology.
Blake, the floor is yours.
All right, thank thank you, Jack.
Now, I we need to be very serious here for a moment.
Uh I said some words yesterday on the normal Charlie Kirk show that I regret that I should not have said that were very hurtful, were ill-considered by me.
We got a lot of emails about this.
Um, and I feel a lot of shame.
I feel a lot of embarrassment.
I you know, I can't ever really fully apologize for what I did.
This is only a half half baked, or if you prefer twice spaked way of of doing things.
But Yesterday, uh I compared California gubernatorial candidate, Katie Porter, to um a very popular spud, the potato.
And I I really just want to say I'm I'm so sorrowful that I would have ever taken a great food like the potato that has given so much joy and happiness and nutrition to billions of people and compared it to this entity, Katie Porter.
That was extremely hurtful.
I should have never done that.
And I wanted to apologize to the lovely potato for everything I said.
It was so hurtful.
In I just could not, I I could not be more apologetic to all potatoes and potato lovers out there for what I did because we are learning more and more about Katie Porter, and she is just wholly undeserving to ever be mentioned in the same breath with that beautiful spud.
I know.
I can't believe that.
Blake, as uh as as as as a as a man of Polish descent, uh the land of Eastern Europe, the land of potatoes.
I just I I I want to say that, you know, I I I forgive you.
I I forgive you for what you did.
I will not forget this though.
And of course, you must still face public uh you know, public justice.
The debt must be paid.
It must be.
I'll pay it.
I'll pay it with a freebie for you.
So uh Jack, the next time you go to Poland, my favorite restaurant when I went to Poland, it was in uh Gdansk, former Danzig, founded by some lovely Germans.
Uh but the best restaurant in Gdansk is called, I believe, like Pod Reba or something like that.
It's like Bar Under the Fish, but it is a baked potato themed restaurant.
And it has to be like under the fish.
Yeah, under the fish.
And it's the great it's like the greatest potato baked potato restaurant I've ever been to in my life.
So that's your uh potato related means of atonement.
So I'm actually I'm actually going to uh give you a much worse visual on Katie Porter and what she looks like.
Katie Porter and and Jack will be able to appreciate this since you you evoked Eastern Europe in Russia and Eastern Europe, Babushkas walk around all day long with like sleeveless shirts in the summer.
It's this most disgusting thing.
And they raise their arms up and there's this fat, wrinkly, just like disgusting pale skin that just looks so gross of like wrinkly fat armpit.
I know what you're talking about.
Have you seen that?
So why would Katie Porter over in Russia?
Yeah.
What?
So why was Katie Potter?
I'm saying Katie Katie doesn't look like a potato, she looks like a fat, wrinkly armpick.
I can I could I can post a picture.
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
We need to, we need to to for those of you for those who are on the colour.
You don't have to talk about fat wrinkles.
Have you ever seen like a real quick before we before we demean her further?
We need to give some context.
Katie Porter.
We need context.
So first off, uh, this is what we were discussing yesterday.
There's additional developments, but we want to, for anyone who's just getting in now, uh, this was an interview that Katie Porter gave, I believe now two or three days ago.
Yeah, with uh CBS outlet in California.
Do we have the clip clip 87?
What do you say to the 40% of California voters who you'll need in order to win?
Let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County.
I represented a purple area.
I have stood on my own two feet and won Republican votes before.
That's not something every candidate in this race can say.
So you don't like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
What is your question?
The the question is the same thing I asked everybody.
You haven't written and I'll answer it.
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win?
And you're saying no, you don't.
No, I'm saying I'm gonna try to win every vote I can.
And what I'm saying to you is that well, to those voters.
Okay, so so you I don't want to keep doing this, I'm gonna call it.
Thank you.
You're not gonna do the interview with us.
Nope, not like this.
I'm not not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask.
Every other candidate has answered.
I don't care.
I don't care.
No, to be clear, this is the woman running for governor right now.
And because I guess they just had no one else who could run in a state the size of California.
But what's great about this, what makes this brilliant, that was an embarrassing clip that went viral.
But what's really amazing now is we're getting videos are getting released by former staffers of Potato Katie.
And Potato.
You just said that we weren't gonna be doing that again, Blake.
Okay.
Ah, you're right.
No, her name is Bob Ushka Armpick.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
But anyway, they're releasing new videos of her that are like other greatest hits from the experience of working under Katie Porter.
Uh, this is the one that they released.
Let's play uh clip 134.
Yeah, we're gonna lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems, and the state could lose out of my shot.
I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect.
It's not that it's electric vehicles, it's that if we don't need a commitment's idea, Paris climate board.
Okay, it does okay.
You also were in my shop before that.
Stay out of my shot.
Okay.
I'm gonna start again with um electric vehicles saving us money.
Get out of my shot!
So I actually talked today with someone who's on the Republican side, uh works in in politics in California.
It's state senate, and I actually used to work in Sacramento, so I I reached out to her.
It's like, tell me a little bit about Katie Porter.
What do you know?
She said she is the most disrespectful, hateful, and nastiest as they come.
She treats her staff worse than anybody else, and is more left than you could ever imagine, even more so than Kevin Newsom.
And here's some something crazy.
Her husband filed charges against her for throwing metal toys at her.
Dot dot dot.
Guess what?
Dot dot dot.
They don't have kids.
Metal toys.
What?
No, they do.
They they do.
I don't think I know that that's funny, but they do because there's all the defenses of her for why she's so nasty to her staff is that she was a single mom when she got elected to Congress because she divorced her husband.
The other thing, which you know is why I made my again have to I have to apologize to potatoes, but the reason I had potatoes on the brain is according to her ex-husband, she once poured boiling mashed potatoes onto him.
Wow.
She really is Katie Portato.
And oh, I think we have an even another clip.
This one isn't quite as uh you know sweary as the others, but she has uh she's shooting death stares at her staff because she doesn't like the lighting.
Let's play clip 133.
Oh, yes, this is why I didn't want to do I need the lights off, the bright lights.
I'm so sorry, but I am about to get on Bernard.
I need you to turn these off.
These that are killing me.
Hang on one second, everybody.
No, we should put the computer up on a little bit.
Yes, yes, we should have.
Yes, okay, everybody.
I'm not that dark.
It's too dark.
Just a minute.
Okay, everybody.
I'm sorry about that.
I am in a TV studio.
That fat wrinkly forehead.
You know, if you go back to that original first clip and look at the thing, watch her forehead and like all the makeup.
You know when makeup like cakes up on people's wrinkles.
I just don't really understand.
I don't, I just really get it.
I don't understand how people fail up this aggressively.
I've seen so many fail failing up within politics.
Like it basically is like the it's it's the standard.
Like you see people start at the state level and they fail.
I mean, this is like you know, Ruben Gallego, Katie Porter, like all these.
They start at the state level.
She is probably the primest example of like there is nothing of substance there that is good.
How do you like how does anyone in the world like this person retweet?
So that's what's weird to be.
It's like she's running for governor of California, and you'd think I know Democrats don't have the greatest bench, but I don't know, like they couldn't run Rokana for this.
Like I don't love Rokana, but I would pick Rokana over Katie Portato.
Yeah, I I look at Swalwell and I go, This is egregious what the Democrats are doing to themselves.
Like, we have to let them keep going.
But like it is, I mean, it is so bad.
The top of their bench is Fat wrinkly armpit, potato face.
Katie.
Really on that.
Katie.
You do love the armpits.
That's what she looks like.
The next time you're out, go to go to Walmart.
There's some bot there's gonna be some old lady walking around, shirtless in Arizona, or sleeveless in Arizona, not shirtless, sleeveless.
You're gonna see that she's gonna raise her arm.
You're gonna be like, ugh.
That's what Katie Porter's face looks like.
And I'm telling you, it's Walwell.
This is they're tired of the colour.
What do you do when you're going shopping at Walmart?
No, I'm saying they'd exist.
I'm saying it exists.
Like sitting there.
I have this is a Walmart with Tyler.
He's just sitting there judging you.
I'm very judged.
Yeah, you shouldn't be wearing this.
This is why I don't go to Walmart.
I'm worried I'll run into Tyler and he's gonna like make it.
Exactly.
Are you walking around with sleeveless shirts with yeah, fat ring?
Actually, the true story is the true story is I am only I only have three outfits now because I had to like have Mikey help me get a better wardrobe and anything else now.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Blake.
Did you just say that you went shopping with Mikey?
Yes, yes, I did.
That's a thought crime.
That's a bad thing.
I think we need I think we need to I think we need to dig into this a little bit.
Did Mikey's done with this?
Now is this the first time you guys went out together, or was was or was this the second time?
No, no, no.
Mikey many times.
Mikey's helped out Blake a lot.
Blake's Blake has had like the greatest outfits on this week.
Uh like a couple of times.
I'll be like, I've been like, hey, is that a Mikey outfit?
He's like, yeah, it is.
Well, it's not gonna be one of mine.
People have seen my outfits.
I wear I'm if left to my own devices, I will dress like a like a person born in North Dakota that I am, and it's gonna probably be like dad jeans and a dad shirt from that for Louise Macy's blazer that you Charlie.
The blue Macy's blazer is amazing.
You will not insult the blue Macy's blazer.
I know.
I almost want to play that clip of Charlie.
So you went close shopping with Mikey.
We should.
We should get that, we should get that.
I'm gonna find that clip.
This is great.
You went close shopping with Mikey.
I know I I'm just I'm just I'm just just to be clear about this.
You publicly admitting that you went close shopping.
Like you for the express purpose of going clothes shopping.
Yeah, look, okay.
Oh, I had a free hour.
Elizabeth was out of town.
And I'm like, you know, I love Blake.
I've traveled with him to the UK with Charlie.
I've traveled, we went to Asia together.
At this point, we're like, you know, best friends.
Weren't we just talking about what happens in Asia?
Yeah, yeah.
I gotta find this clip.
Oh, here I found it.
One sec.
They're gonna have to load it.
This might take them a second.
Charlie even trolled.
So Blake has this blue blazer.
It's great.
No, and he bought when did you buy that blazer?
I think I bought it in 2018.
And he wears it everywhere.
Every event, Amphest, SAS, CLS, YWS.
And in Asia, you wore it every day in a row.
Sweating through.
How many blazers am I supposed to bring to Asia?
At least two.
There's like three conferences.
I don't know.
We gotta play this clip when they load it.
Blake, I've tweeted out that you are the you are the first singer, and uh uh the first comment is from Autism Capital, who wrote, My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
Okay, we got the clip.
Brutal 141.
Mikey's struggle busting.
He's all like it's so hot.
I can't be cool like the security guys who have full suits.
Or Blake, who's got his ridiculous Macy's blazer.
I was gonna say, like, you've gotten more, you've got more mileage out of that blazer than anything I've ever seen in my life.
It's a great blazer.
People like it.
It's my favorite blazer.
It's nice.
People comment on it no matter what.
The occasion.
Like, where's the macies blazers?
Heck yeah.
Yeah, I think I bought it from it was like $50 or something that Macy's.
It was great.
And it's a good one.
Wait, why are you holding a microphone?
We were in, we were recording the events, and I'm glad we did, of course, because that was, of course, the last the last weekend we had Charlie, of course.
I'm Providential that we had.
Because Charlie would just walk around in Asia and be like, Blake, tell me about that.
Tell me about that.
And Blake was talking nice.
Yeah, we were at Yong Sokbung, however, you said uh Palace in in Seoul, and he'd be like, Blake, tell us about this.
And so tell me about it.
This clip is this clip is in Korea, or is this Japan?
So that one's in Seoul in Korea.
That's in Seoul, okay.
Even you called it ridiculous.
You said this is my ridiculous Macy's blazer.
Yeah, it's great.
I love it.
People love it.
People People say the Blazer's great.
No one, no one says any other blazer that I own is great, especially because I never wear one.
There is that one suit that Blake wears that it's actually quite nice.
I want to see this.
I mean, again, no homo, no homo, but like there's there's there's a suit that Blake has, it's got a nice cut to it.
It's like he he looks nice when it's on.
He looks nice.
I'm just just gonna say that.
Now I'm not I'm I'm totally totally you know at one with myself, so I don't mind saying that.
But then again, I don't go I don't go close shopping with Mikey.
So what what did you guys do?
Did you was it was it a good shopping trip?
Did you go out afterwards?
Did you get ice cream?
We did get boba.
Oh okay.
Now you're digging now.
You're digging a slightly deep hole here.
Oh, I must be I have to dig deeper at this point.
We got boba together.
Okay, Boba, Boba, Blake, and okay.
At this point, at this point, we need to we need to uh uh we should probably mention that it was not just the two of us, right?
No, no, we had yeah, no, no.
We had it.
We had a third person there.
That makes it that makes it more defensible.
It was a man.
Oh well, that doesn't make it better.
Well, it does kidding.
Bro, bros go and shop at the Scott Still Mall all the time.
All the time.
Yeah, that's a thing.
Yeah, I don't know.
Bro, uh you know what that reminds me of that reminds me of the opening scene of uh uh I don't think bro shopping is a thing, guys.
I it's I don't think that's a thing.
We're gonna take a camera next time we go bro shopping, and we're gonna prove you guys wrong.
That reminds me of the opening scene of Zoolander of all the male models all shopping together.
We're gonna vlog our talking about uh I've never seen Zoolander, but I still uh it's all they're all dancing on the other.
I've never seen it either.
You've never seen Zoolander?
No, I don't know what trap is.
Those are like non-heterosexual male models.
Yeah, I don't know what trap is, and I've never seen Zoonlander.
What else?
No, no, I I will say that I actually just think bro shopping is totally with both.
Did now did you all get boba?
Did you share one?
Did you have like one boba with multiple straws?
How did it go?
We did each get our own.
So I think that's a little less homo.
But did you share?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you know what they say about a guy who drinks another man's boba?
Yeah, never heard this.
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be straight up.
I think I think boba is right in there, and again, I'm not saying this to be offensive.
I'm sorry, Blake.
I know you like boba, but like I just think boba is like right up there with Lord of the Rings.
Like in questionable.
What?
What do you mean Lord of the Rings is questionable?
Oh, Tyler thinks Lord of the Rings is the gayest thing in the world.
Oh, actually, I watched Lord of the Rings for the first time ever with Charlie.
Lord of the Rings is super straight.
This is not it is not.
You watch Lord of the Rings with Charlie for the first time ever.
And it was when we were in Florida, Palm Beach, and we're what I walk in, he was on Shabbat, and he was like, hey, do you have Advil or something?
I was like, Yeah, I have some.
And I brought it to his room, and I was like, What are you doing?
He's like watching Lord of the Rings.
I go, I've never seen it.
He goes, You never seen it, and he just freaks out.
He's like, sit down right now.
And so for the next like six hours, we watched two of the movies.
Wait, what's this?
Wait, what like over the winter?
Yeah, this was in this was in like December.
It's really hard for me to imagine.
After we argued about this, probably after, I think December, January.
So wait, so Lord of the Rings, Charlie was proactively watching Lord of the Rings, maybe in response to us arguing about the probably is what it was.
Because he never watched movies ever when we were traveling, and now nowhere he turns on this three-hour film.
No, we had a full argument about is Lord of the Rings actually a gay ballad.
This was now for the record.
This was like one of the episodes.
This is one of the few episodes that I was not on.
And we got a huge fight over it.
It was like a big thing.
I would be with Blake because I don't think that Lord of the Rings is gay.
I I just don't.
It's epic.
Google it.
Ask it.
No, I am gonna ask Chat GPT.
But it's it's not gay.
It's just not gay.
Because like there's there's people who want to like read all this stuff into it, and they do it with like ancient, you know, uh, you know, you know, Mythological stories and ancient history and things like oh, this guy was definitely gay because look, they were friends, and it's like, no, that's not true at all.
Uh Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Rings is not gay.
Yeah.
And you know, Frodo.
If it was made today, it would have been a good thing.
Frodo gets a mithril vest as he's on the journey.
So, in a sense, Lord of the Rings is a 100% straight male shopping journey.
Well, it is turned against me.
They're like, it is gay, Jack.
No, I don't I told you.
In all seriousness, I am standing.
I must stand in the breach against the like gay efication of 100% straight American cultural touchstones.
Yeah.
Like Lord of the Rings.
I'm with you, but Chat GPT says it can absolute absolutely resonate through a homo rhetoric.
They do that with everything.
They do that with everyone.
They do that with Shakespeare.
They do that with Abraham Lincoln.
Well, Shakespeare is very gay, dude.
No, no, he's not.
Shakespeare is super straight.
No, Shakespeare has a lot of gayness around it.
No, that's not true.
Defamation.
Uh also DJ Gowowitz donated and said, I was literally just getting on the chat to say, I feel like this is heading towards Lord of the Rings.
Oh, did it ever?
Oh, did it ever?
Why do you think everything is gay other than bro shopping?
You're like, he's like, Boba's gay.
Lord of the Rings, gay Shakespeare, gay.
That's how this came up.
That this is how this came.
Wait, first off, Shakespeare's sexuality is constantly a topic of debate.
I just asked.
No, it's only a topic of debate because like people debate because they're trying to push the gay.
Oh, but I'll tell you why Boba's gay a little bit.
All right.
A little bit.
All right.
All right.
Give us the boba take.
First off, men shouldn't drink with straws.
Why?
Okay.
No.
That's that's offensive to Charlie.
Charlie had this rule where he would only drink an iced cold drink with a straw.
Well, no, I'm not saying I'm I'm saying I'm not saying that it's a big thing.
Well, Tyler's just calling Charlie gay.
No, you're calling Charlie Gay.
Here's what here's what I have a problem with when it becomes a boba.
You shouldn't have a straw drink as a dude where you're like trying to suck these like things through the straw.
Like, that's just a weird look.
It's like not good.
Like you can't look at a dude like drinking a straw and be like, that is that is a very straight activity.
That's not a straight activity.
It's just about so what about like a root?
Like sucking like those balls through the straw.
Like, how do you wait?
No, no, Tyler.
How do you drink a root?
I've I've watched people doing that.
I'm like, that is really weird.
Show am I on?
It's weird.
It's just weird.
It's not straight.
It's weird.
That's ice cream.
You know, that's ice cream with the straw.
Yeah, I think trying to suck uh, you know, a shake through a straw is also weird.
You should use a spoon.
But what about like the small straws just for like soda?
Like a like that, like that's like a weird look.
That's like not okay.
It's I've just warning you don't do it.
You look weird.
Chat is not with you.
The chat is not like delicious.
It takes a secure man to enjoy some boba.
Yeah, that's what yeah.
I'm seeing the I love straws.
I could suck a milkshake through a straw.
We went down.
That's the great, that's the Paul Thomas Anderson, right?
We went uh milkshake.
Yeah.
So to circle back to uh I won the chat on Lord of the Rings, but not icy.
You don't have an icy drink.
Is there something wrong with drinking ice now?
No, I see's fine, that's fine.
You have to get ice cream.
If you have you need to get a straw to drink boba, I'm not saying that I'm not completely anti-straw.
I'm just saying I'm the the topic, do not change the topic.
Sounds like boba is not all there.
All right.
Okay, but isn't it like I will point out like the way you have it at a proper place, they seal the whole cup and you like stab it with the big straw.
That feels like a pretty hoorah, like stabbing part.
Yeah, it's happening's great.
Yeah.
Stabbing the straw.
Yeah, see, I remember I remember like I'd be in China like almost 20 years ago, and that's where I first started drinking it, and they called it they call it um bubble tea over there.
So uh or pearl bubble tea, like Jenju Nai Ta, uh bubble bubble milk tea.
And um, you know, it's it was like super popular on campus, like everybody would have it.
I think it started in Taiwan, I'm not sure.
I I was having it in Shanghai, and um it's just kind of normal, like everybody had it, it's fine.
D good 2020.
Everything's gay.
Charlie would be telling you guys to get back on topic.
He probably was he probably was so let's go back, let's go back to the big topic of emphasis on big.
Uh, we have Katie Porter, Katie Porter.
So we're we're getting like all the the knives out for Katie, which that's what I really love about this.
Is yes, every so people are resurfacing.
This is a profile of her from 2023, where the Washington Post just found some staffers of her, and they were all terrified to even say anything.
Uh, this is a direct quote from this is an article by Dan Zach, 2023 in the Washington Post about Porter.
Here we get into tricky territory.
My chat with the ex-staffer was revealing it prompted me to reach out to others.
Four people, each formerly in Porter's employee or orbit.
That's what it says.
Four people in her orbit told me about upsetting experiences working for her that spanned her first three and a half years in Congress.
Three additional former staffers told similar stories to one of my Washington Post colleagues, but to define the credibility of these seven sources, or to specify their allegations of bad bossness, is to give away their identities, which they do not want.
Nobody wants to go public in ways they might regret.
So we in three and a half years in Congress as a house member, house members don't have that big of a staff.
There are seven different people who had testimony who were willing to speak to reporters about how bad of a boss, you know, get out of my shot, Katie Porter was and now they like and now they're making her this rising star of the party.
It's it's actually it's it's really hilarious.
You can't really call yourself a man and vote for Katie Porter.
Well, luckily she's running in California.
That's what I'm saying.
Oh, but I'm saying in California, like no man can vote for Katie Porter.
Yeah.
I think Tony Atkins is running too.
And they look they kind of look alike.
I she's gonna win though.
She's gonna win the Democrat nomination.
Yeah, Tony Atkins.
They don't even have nominations anymore.
It's the jungle prime.
Whoa.
But it's basic it's basically going to be it's Democrat versus Republican always in the statewides because the the Dems don't split each other enough.
But this might be a moment where enough people get annoyed with her and dislike her enough where she comes in the second place uh spot.
It would be really cool if the dem split each other enough in California got to a point where you know it becomes a real problem for their top two situation.
It's probably not gonna happen, but that's I mean, Katie's bad.
She's like a really bad candidate, really ugly person.
Inside amazing.
Um really ugly inside person.
All right, I think that's about all we can say about that topic.
We do need to move on because we have some more topics that we have to get who.
Uh we talked about the halftime show.
Uh do we want to talk about dogs?
I think we should.
I think we should hit that.
So we this is another one that we hit recently, but it's really one more yeah maybe one more topic tonight.
I think I think we should hit this.
I think uh I think Charlie would be into this.
He would be really into the the meta stuff about this.
So this is Hassan Piker, who would have been debating Charlie at Dartmouth two weeks ago.
Uh we were looking forward to that one.
I'm very genuinely very sad we'll never get to see it.
But Hassan Piker, he's been touted as the left's Joe Rogan answer.
He's been touted as the left's Charlie Kirk, actually, in one very dumb NPR segment.
Uh, but he's getting in trouble because we'll play the clip here.
Uh, let's play one twenty-nine.
Of all of America's much more consequential violence.
Okay, it's the same reason as to why America, Kaya, please just go back just stop.
Jesus Christ, what are you doing?
You're being such a baby.
Using the Lord's name in vain.
Don't love to hear that.
Yeah, well, he he grew he's from Turkey.
Uh, but yeah, so for those who can't tell what's going on, it appears his dog, which he wanted to just be parked in the background for his entire eight-hour stream, I guess.
It tried to move up towards him, and so he reaches to something, and it appears he triggers a shot collar on the dog to zap it like you would with an invisible fence.
And a lot of people are not liking this at all.
I think if there's one great constant in America, it's a lot of normal Americans, they like dogs.
And I think they would even say that hurting hurting a dog is more revealing of your character to a lot of people Than like hurting a human or any other view you might hold.
People really like dogs.
And Hassan does not like dogs, apparently.
Well, first, I just want to like give that dog a pet.
You know, I feel so bad.
Anyways, this person saying he's from Turkey.
What does that have to do with it?
Well, so well, he's from an Islamic country, like we were saying.
It's not uh he was taking the Lord's name in vain because how are dogs?
Yeah, how are dogs uh treated in across the Middle East?
Well, they eat they eat them a lot.
No, no, no, not in the Middle East.
They they eat them.
They for sure eat them.
I don't think they eat them in Asia.
I don't think they do that.
They eat them in like East Asia, like Vietnam eats dogs.
And Russia, they kill dogs and turn them into hats and they eat them, and it's not the Russians doing it.
Are you sure about that one?
I've never heard of that.
Now you could in like Asians in Korea, there are like this where you can.
I'm not gonna name which which people that that have emigrated into Russia do that, but I'm 100%.
They they talk about it.
They they when I was there, they would openly talk about it.
They'd be like, oh yeah.
They'd be like, This isn't real whatever fur.
They'd be like, that's dog fur.
You gotta just say guys ate it and then they make it into hats and they sell on the in the and the bazaars.
Now I'm now I'm looking at the map.
Okay, it is it is legal to eat dogs in the middle of most of the Middle East.
It's it's just the thing, it's not a big thing.
But isn't it isn't dog considered haram?
Uh I don't know.
So, like, depending on I feel like depending on like how how you know uh Islamic a certain country is well, Saudi Arabia is legal considered haram.
Uh it it says I want to be I want to be fair too, because you said something Hassan Piker was born in New Jersey, which is basically the Middle East, but it's not okay.
Apparently, I'm just kidding, New Jersey.
My wife's from New Jersey.
What I'll be in by the way, I'll be in New Jersey tomorrow for the uh for Jack Chitterelli.
We're holding a uh a rally out there for him uh getting involved in that race uh with with uh with Benny with Scott Presser with Cliff Maloney.
So anyone out there is watching this live, please come on out.
North Wildwood Seaport.
Um we're gonna be there and uh full security for drones will be uh there and uh hooked to you two.
We're gonna be rally as well as a visual for Charlie.
Yeah, well, apparently all carnivorous facts apparently all carnivorous animals are haram in Islam, or like current carnivorous animals with fangs, so wolves, dogs.
I've just learned something.
Thank you, Blake.
So that's why they eat them.
So I'm surprised.
Apparently, I've seen a map which says it's legal in Saudi Arabia, but that surprises me because Saudi Arabia is usually pretty much.
I'm telling you, I've been in places where they've said certain cultures, I'm not getting which cultures, they say they pointed directly at the people and they said that guy eats all the dogs, and then he turns them into hats.
I was there.
They pointed at a guy, they're like that guy, and I'll never forget it.
They pointed at the guy, and that shouldn't be okay in America.
That's why you're seeing some brutality.
However, Hassan is from New Jersey, yeah.
And there needs to be New Jersey.
Yeah, and New Jersey needs to be one back from the dog haters.
American dog lovers need to take back New Jersey, vote vote for Jack.
This could be a campaign.
And and say no to Hassan and his breed of people who who uh attack dogs, like the way that he has.
Terrible.
Treating it the way that he's treated it, terrible.
I I do think there is something to this idea.
It's very funny because Pikers said a lot of unhinged things.
He said his favorite flag is the Hezbollah flag.
We have that clip if we want to play it.
He yeah, he he actually did say that.
Uh yeah, well, actually, let's just play it.
136.
Oh, let's talk about our favorite flags.
Oh, like overall, what my favorite flag?
Yeah, Hezbollah.
Look it up.
Oh, I'm not even kidding.
It's actually a dope flag.
I don't know flags.
It's uh this is uh you know what?
I'm gonna be brave.
My favorite flag.
It's got an AK on it and a fan holding it up.
Wow, son.
Or or we might have to cut this.
We're behind the paywall, it's fine.
Hezbollah's flag looks kind of stupid, by the way.
At a distance, it looks kind of like an oil rig or something.
Yeah, it does.
And Uh when you zoom in, it's got like a globe on it.
It looks like other than the AK that's on it, it kind of looks like some UN agency from the 70s.
But but so beyond beyond all that, like Blake.
I want to get Blake in on this because, and by the way, for the record, even though, yes, I lived in East Asia for two years.
I have never knowingly eaten dog.
Um, I have no idea if I have or not, honestly, because sometimes you're in some places where it's better to not ask you for sure.
And they're not gonna tell you the truth anyway.
But I've never knowingly, there were some people who sought it out when I would go over, but you know, other like expats that went, I didn't Blake.
Walk us through though what does it say about like I grew up as a dog lover, my family grew up loving dogs, having dogs.
Uh everyone, you know, almost everyone I know has you know either had a dog or had a pet.
Why what does it say that there are people now coming into the country who hate dogs and and are willing to mistreat dogs like this?
Yeah, it really is at a minimum, it is a microcosm of other changes that we can recognize.
Uh, you know, there's a lot of you know, norms in America that were kind of we would say were traditionally American, love of fair play, love of like good sportsmanship, some of that stuff has fallen into abeyance, and also just attitude towards animals is actually a very traditional, it's one of our most of the most English parts of our heritage.
The English historically loved animals.
So many of our favorite dog and horse and other animal breeds, they come from England.
England has this rich tradition of animal husbandry, and especially animals that are service animals.
Like, look up look up where your favorite dog breed was bred, and there's very good odds it came from the British Isles somewhere.
Uh the border collie, I believe, was the border of like England and Scotland, probably, and stuff like that.
And as a result, we also have this rich tradition of appreciating animals.
We don't like the idea of you know slaughtering Fido to eat him.
We don't like the idea of slaughtering Black Beauty to eat him either.
And all the breeds of correct me if I'm wrong, you probably know all about this, and you know, this is why I'm asking you, Drake, this question.
Europe is really the home for the the creation of all these different breeds, right?
So it's kind of like high society.
It was like what years were like did that become like a thing where like they were trying to create all these different types of breeds of dogs and respecting them as like pets and including them on hunting, and they were like kind of just treated as high society animal probably probably like the the 1800s because and even prior because like 1600, I feel like there's like 15 16.
If you want, uh if you want, you know, a fun name, uh a fun thing.
There's actually an ancient text we have from from ancient Greece, actually.
It's called uh Sinageticus, and it's by Xenophon, ancient Greek guy, and it's basically translated as uh kind of is translated as related to hunting, but they'll sometimes say hunting with dogs, and he has a long list of names that he thinks are good names for dogs in it, some of which are like still around today.
Uh let's see, uh he's got ones that translate uh killer, blazing, armor, ranger, ruler, ravager, eager, rage, pride.
Uh, I think my favorite though is uh strong boy strong boy as a name for a dog.
Come here, pride, yeah.
Edge beam now, okay.
Some of these actually sound like they're superheroes or something, members of the X-Men, but uh and like we have we have like ancient European accounts of like the loyalty of dogs.
Oh, and of course, the Odyssey.
Remember you ever read the Odyssey?
Yes, yeah, and the Odyssey, Odysseus returns home to Ithaca, and no one can recognize him, but his faithful dog, which has been waiting for him to return for 20 years, that's recognizes his master and then like immediately expires.
And so we've been getting emotional dog loyalty stuff in Western literature for literally 3,000 years.
So by the way, one of my favorite pieces of this though that I was gonna reference is um you're are you familiar, you guys are familiar with that um that breed of hunting dog called the Borzoi.
I don't know if that's how you say it.
Um but there, so and if you can pull up a uh, you know, maybe like a picture of it.
So the Borzoi, they're a Russian dog.
And just anyone can go and Google, why are there so few Borzoi?
And just go look up this up in Google, Chat GPT, wherever you want to go, whatever AI you want, and you look it up.
Why are there so few Borzoi?
And it says, there are so few few Borzois because the Russian revolution led to the mass slaughter of the dogs due to their association with the aristocracy.
The breed went nearly extinct, surviving only in a few kennels, and though and through dogs that have been exported to other countries.
So because they were bred as the noble Russian hunting dogs and were considered a symbol of the aristocracy during the Bolshevik Revolution, the Bolsheviks would just slaughter the dogs.
So uh I don't even know how many tens of thousands of these dogs were just killed.
Uh obviously, like they're a dog, they have nothing to do with with upholding, you know, quote unquote patriarchy or or monarchy or or any of the things they're fighting against.
But this is what the Marxists would do.
They would go so far as to slaughter the dogs that were considered like the dogs of the Romanovs, and this is how insane and disgusting the Bolsheviks were that they literally killed these dogs almost into extinction.
And someone in it's one of the craziest um facts that I've ever, I mean, you there's so many crazy things about the insane atrocities of the Bolsheviks, but that one has always stuck with me.
The the chat also points out Proverbs 12:10 in the Bible says the righteous care for the needs of their animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel.
No, we we always talked about when we were in Boy Scouts, we always had a couple of things that we do at church, and we would talk about you know, treating other people with dignity and respect and everything else, and we would always add on, because we always talked about uh treating women and children with respect, but then also small animals.
We always added that's right.
It's because he should like that again.
The number one thing that's an identifier of someone with really that has like really dark, really bad places, is that they kill small animals, that they mess around small animals.
That's like a I think that's even a serial killer tell.
That's a serious stuff when you're a child, and it's like the the triad of things that you know might make you a grow a psychopath or whatever when you grow up, and two of them I know are um if you have pyromania as a kid, and then I think also if you have a history of cruelty to animals, like they would torture animals when they were children.
And you know, I think a lot of kids mess around with like ants or something, but with actual small, you know, cats, dogs, rats, raccoons, stuff like that.
Wow, and so there's also something too because like when you're you know like like a mammal, right?
And you know, I think in high school, you you have to do the um, you know, we did like the fetal pig, the autopsy and things like that, but you know, the cat autopsy, and um, you know, but but when you're doing it to an animal that's already alive, or you know, I should say still alive when you're when you're torturing that the closer you get to something that resembles like a human, it's it's the more disgusting it is.
And you know, again, just I I think about these dogs that were tortured during the Bolshevik revolution, and you think like what kind of a monster does that just because they want to cause pain.
They know it causes pain, and dogs are very obviously high, um, you know, high consciousness animals.
And so to do something that you you want to cause pain in the dog, it's it's it's monstrous, it's absolutely monstrous.
And so, you know, look, this is something where I think you've actually seen like a lot of people on the left and the right just call this out because it's it's you know, and he no uh Blake, he had a response, right?
Uh yes, he did.
Let's uh get that one up here one moment.
Uh his response, let's play that.
It is 131.
This is the one that people are talking about.
Okay, this is the one.
This is the this is the one that they saw.
It has the capacity to vibrate, and that's it.
Are you happy?
Are you happy?
It has the capacity to vibrate.
And that's it.
Uh this person is being abusive if they only saw that clip.
It doesn't matter.
And this will not go away for the record.
I didn't seen that.
That's amazing.
Hassan Piker hates dogs.
He does.
Wait, wait, I couldn't where I'm where I'm sitting, I couldn't, I couldn't read with the screenshots.
It was zooming in on the electrical shock.
It had like electrical tape on it, and they were they were showing some like product description that made it clear it actually was electrical and vibrating collars.
Yes, that's a thing.
To be fair, shock callers.
I I completely I'm not saying that they're they're wrong.
I think they like if you have a big dog and you let him out to run around like on big landscape.
They're gonna run in the show.
Or for their own safety.
You have an electrical, an invisible fence around your home.
So they're running to the road, or nobody's gonna be able to do it.
There's force to protect your dog, and then there's zap your dog because it's walking out of your like preferred frame shot on your eight-hour life.
This is a Pomeranian, isn't it?
This is a Pomerania.
Why are you shot Pomeranian?
A Pomerania is very big.
I mean very small.
No, this is the same thing as Katie Porter.
It's like her screaming at the staffer with like she wants to put a shot collar on her staffers saying, like, you need to get out of my shot.
You're ruining my shot.
You're ruining my shot.
It's the same mentality.
You're ruining my shot.
My shot needs a dog.
The dog has to be right here.
That's the shot.
It's the exact same thing.
Wait, yeah.
I thought Hassan's dog was a I thought Hassan's dog was a Pomeranian.
I have no idea.
I don't know dog before.
No, that's way bigger than a Pomeranian.
No, where it wasn't due in life is a series of choices.
And so is that not it?
Walking in the background?
Dude, Pomeranians are like this big.
That looks like a chow.
No, it's not chow.
No palms are like way smaller.
That's not Pomeranian.
That is not that is not a Pomeranian.
That's a tiny.
What are you talking about?
No, that's like it's on like a treadmill in the background.
That's not that's it, I think.
That's a tiny dog.
I think you're mistaken on how distant it is from Oh, I thought it was like on the desk right next to you.
No, no.
Oh uh oh, I uh this entire time I thought he was shocking a Pomeranian.
Wait, PETA PETA has released a statement.
I see it.
All right.
Oh my gosh.
It's like a it's like uh um what do they call those dogs?
I don't know.
So put someone put in the chat.
What's the dog?
What's that kind of?
Someone says a very overweight chow chow.
Oh, it's still not a huge dog.
It's clearly not like running around outside.
He lives in like New York City, doesn't he?
I have no idea.
He lives in the city.
I just hope he doesn't live anywhere near me.
It's not like that dog's running away.
My whole point is I think he lives in the city.
He like lives like in an apartment.
Doesn't he?
He just wants in the shot.
That's all he wants.
So he puts a shock collar on his dog to not run out of his room.
Yeah, I guess.
And then his justification for it after the fact is he's like, my dog, he you know, she she's just had the ability to walk all over my house, and now that I'm back in town, she shouldn't have be able to do that anymore.
I'm looking it up by the way.
It's a some people are saying that that's the dog's name is Kaya.
Sounds like I guess I grow up.
Chow chow email.
They're saying chow chow.
And um, no, they're actually saying part or or mostly Tibetan Mastiff.
Yeah, that's a mastiff.
That was that's an interesting mix.
Yeah, I don't I don't know dog breeds that well.
I will not claim any expertise on that front.
That's big.
That's rare.
My I did not have a dog growing up.
My family actually replaced me with a dog.
True story.
Like I went to college, and I know I I hadn't encountered Charlie yet.
I didn't know it was a scam.
So I go to Char I I go to college, and all of a month later, they replaced me with an animal.
And wow, blake.
I think they like the animal better than me, to be honest.
So I got the down low here, just googling it.
Hassan Piker lives.
Oh, he did live in LA.
So he's Oh, he's close to us then.
So he does, he does have a house.
Um I don't like that.
He does have a house, so he doesn't live in an apartment.
So I I'm I'm gonna recant that statement.
I thought he lived in like the city or whatever.
Years ago, I think when Charlie debated, I feel like he said something about living in the city or something.
I can't remember.
Just for clarification, this is what a Pomeranian looks like.
I sent them the Pomeranian is not what a Pomeranian.
That is a Pomeranian.
That is what that is what Tyler thought the dog was.
No, I mean, to be fair, I thought it looked like a that's not what a normal Pomerania looks like.
A normal Pomeranian looks like this.
Yes, it is.
That's exactly what the little Pomeranian is.
That is like That is the same here as a dog.
That's just a slightly different color.
From here, I was I haven't seen that clip before we got on the show of Hassan.
So I'm I only have a tiny little screen that's like tw 10 feet away from me.
And it looked like it was a desk return.
Do you need like vision correctly?
No, I have actually great vision.
I just was like, it's like it doesn't look like a palm to me, and I'm equally distant from it.
No, from here, if you look from about 10 feet away, it looks like that's a desk return and a Pomerania walking next to him on desktop.
I have taken off my corrective lenses, and I still don't think it's a Pomeranian, Tyler.
Whatever.
Lord of the Rings is still gay.
This is not and straws, I guess.
And having Pomeranians.
Yeah, the rings called a Polly.
I like the horseshoe of getting this back to, you know, you know, ruining the shot with Hassan, ruining the shot with Katie.
It's a good way to horseshoe back to we have to horseshoe back to another a thing we forgot to mention with uh with our our friend Katie, which is we have text messages 357 if you want to put them on screen.
But she like went nuts and fired a staffer over COVID protocol.
So I'll I'll read this.
No, I I remember when this happened.
This is why did you not follow office protocol on testing?
It's really disappointing.
And the staffer says, I'm terribly sorry.
You're right, I should have done better.
Just because I felt okay in the moment doesn't mean that I was.
And then she replies the following day.
Blake, can you can you do Katie's voice in the uh in the metal voice?
Okay.
Sasha!
I cannot allow you back in the office, given your failure to follow office policies.
Cody will be in touch about having your personal effects shipped or delivered to your home and will lay out your remote work schedule for your last few weeks.
And then the staffer replies, I I understand.
Thank you for the last two years and all that I have learned.
I hate to have disappointed you in this manner, as I know it isn't an excuse.
I had found out my friend from the Navy had been murdered, and my head was not in the best place.
That is not an excuse, but the reasoning for my lack of forethought.
I appreciate everything this office has done for me.
And she replies to this.
My friend was murdered.
I apologize.
Well, you gave me COVID in 25 months.
It took you not following the rules to get me sick.
My children have nobody to care for them.
Which on top of that, like I guess she's not able to get a babysitter or something to help.
Maybe she ran scared all of them away, or ate all of the babysitters, something like that.
Both are possible.
What a the way they text your governor's so performative and like just over the top and disgusting and LARPing and theater kid, like Harry Potter speak.
It's it's it's everywhere.
Man, this is this is like the Glee kids again.
And that man, I remember talking about with Charlie.
It's like that was the perfect.
We we totally got this.
It was Glee and high school musical and the Harry Potter all mixed together, and that's where you get like the Katie Porters and the Gen Sockies and all of this like phenotype that constantly comes out.
They're always potato shaped, not a lie.
It's also not an insult, it's just true.
It's just true.
They just look like potatoes, they're potato people, and the potato people all come from this exact same place, and somehow are like in massive leadership roles all throughout the Democrat Party and like HR departments everywhere.
You know, Katie Katie Porter was from kind of the same part of the country as Tim Walls, not from Minnesota, but like from I think she's from northern Iowa.
Yeah, Tim Wall's another potato person.
She looks like obviously like she looks like she's from uh north of the border, you know, not too.
Whoa, Canadian.
Whoa, let's not let's not say things we can't take back, even about our our opponents.
No, like a liberal, a liberal Canadian, a very liberal conservative Canadians are great, they're attractive, fun, whatever.
Actually, I had a really great phone call with uh the uh the best of the best in Canada and Alberta, uh Premier Danielle Smith today, who's incredible.
Conservative Canadians are great.
She she looks like a Lib Canadian.
Actually, by the way, I'm I'm pulling something up here.
According to Newsweek, um she according to news so Newsweek had this article up and was looking at the polls in in California because people kept saying that she looked like she was going to um you know, at least win the primary.
And this isn't a primary poll, but it's a general election poll.
There is a new poll out by Zogby that says that yes, Katie Porter is beating the other Democrats.
She is actually behind Steve Hilton, our our friend Steve Hilton, who has been running as a Republican, and she's losing, she's behind him by six points.
Oh uh, so she's at, yeah, it says she is at home.
Where is it?
He's at 29 and she's at 23 in a general election, and another 23% say undecided.
That's crazy.
So Steve Hilt, so maybe we actually should be supporting Katie Porter right now.
Guys, we we may have had this completely wrong.
She's beatable, is what you're saying.
I I'm saying that the the potato may be baked.
I think do we have anything else to say about that?
I got nothing.
No, I'm just saying we should be.
I think we should actively guys, guys.
All right, all right, we're doing it again.
We're going rogue.
Turning point USA goes in.
We go all in, all in.
Well, turning point action on the on Tyler.
What do you say?
We go all in for Katie Porter.
We should be like chasing ballots for her.
I turning tweeted.
I just tweeted, Katie Porter's the only person in California history that makes me want to move to awful commie California just to vote against her.
Against her.
Like she's the first person that makes it.
You guys are way more self-sacrificial on this point.
I I changed my voting from California to Arizona to vote.
For goodness, maybe I should switch back.
No, don't do that.
It's not that it's not that drifting.
I would you guys want to.
We need you for Andy Biggs, but the last thing I'm going to do is move closer to something controlled by Katie Porter.
Katie Porter is as governor.
Just imagine, imagine get out of my shot lady as the governor of a state with 40 million people.
Mom Donnie in New York and Katie Porter in California.
Like that is disgusting.
Like that is there's something about her where it's like, guys, she's beatable.
She's totally beatable.
We need to be able to do that.
What do you mean there's something about her?
Look at her for two seconds.
It's like that is uh that look at I mean just look at that.
There is there's no like in in terms of like the youths, right?
Like that is she is getting swiped left.
Yeah, that was a swipe left all day long.
Swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe left.
Nobody likes her.
There's no way you can look at her.
There's no male in California that can look at that and go, I think I'm gonna vote for that.
There's no way, I just don't believe it.
There's no way.
There just needs to be one campaign, a really simple campaign, which is men, you cannot disrespect yourself enough to actually vote for that.
Vote for anything else.
Anything, anyone else.
Just not that.
She absolutely horrific.
I I don't know if we have any other words of wisdom here, but uh I think on that note, we might have to close it up for the night.
So remember, by the way, make sure you are uh keeping subscribed to the podcast here.
Thought crime will continue.
Uh we'll go go around the room.
But first, uh the website again for the American halftime show.
It's American Halftime Show.com.
We are not going to be watching the sporting event.
We are going to be watching the all-American halftime show presented in 100% English, including Blake Neff's heavy metal stylings will also be completely in English because he's singing the songs of British Axe.
Whatever you say, Jack.
Namaster.
Let's go around.
Let's go around.
Tell everyone, uh, everyone shout out where they can follow you.
Blake.
Oh, uh, I have I have joined the X mines now.
So I am at Blake S. Neff or just Blake Neff on X. You can find me if you if you really if you're a glutton for punishment like that.
Blake has like a ton of followers now, by the way.
He got he started Blake's big Blake's huge.
Blake's like blowing up.
Blake's big in Japan.
Not in the that way, though.
Not like the Katie Porter.
Someone, someone else's social media has been exploding, Mr. Mikey McCoy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Mikey, Mikey's doing okay on on X. On Instagram, he's like famous.
It's pretty crazy.
So his Instagram is insane.
I look at it and I'm like, man, how do I how do I get that kind of juice?
And it's 90% moms.
It's like yeah, the moms.
You know.
Oh, it's all moms.
It's my demographic.
So Mikey, Mikey's pull.
Yeah.
That you can you're 232,000.
You went from like how many did you how many did you I had 3,000?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I did it.
I did a little job.
Um, Mikey.
McCoy, Instagram.
Mikey Michael underscore McCoy on X. Yeah, you need to follow.
No, no one should be following Tyler.
It's it's it's really just an exercise in futility.
I would, I would, I would strongly recommend against following Tyler McCoy.
I'm the opposite as Mikey.
Uh I have a uh X. Just follow me at X. Just Tyler Boyer at Tyler Boyer.
Yeah, Tyler.
By the way, Tyler, I've been keeping an eye on your X replies, and I will notice like sometimes if I'm on the East Coast and I get up at like 6 a.m.
I'll be like, it'll be like Tyler Boyer still posting, like posted five minutes ago.
And he's like replying to some I don't know, some non- Tyler's like some random thing.
Tyler is posting while doing the show.
That's right.
I think he's made like four tweets since it started.
Yeah, too.
He did work all the time.
I do that.
No, I usually comment about what we're talking about while we're on the show.
It makes it interactive.
Yeah, and then people call the D. I'm mostly I'm mostly just tweeting crap about Tyler and Blake, though.
No man in California should vote for Katie Porter tweet from Tyler.
Oh no, wait.
I also tweeted that Mikey went to grow shopping with Blake because that's just No, you didn't.