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Sept. 18, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec

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ANTIFA - The Domestic Terrorist Organization and the Leftist Who Murdered Charlie Kirk

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	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
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	Today is September 18th, 2025.
	Anno Domini.
	As you can see, I'm here in the Charlie Kirk studio, Phoenix, Arizona.
	Got Charlie's mic, Charlie's seat, and indeed Rush Limbaugh's golden EIB microphone sits right here next to me.
	But we're here on a mission because we've got work to do.
	President Trump has made the announcement.
	Executive order will be forthcoming.
	Antifa is to be designated a domestic terrorist organization.
	Now, of course, the same ridiculous voices on the left are running around telling you there's no such thing as Antifa.
	Antifa doesn't exist.
	Antifa is just a figment of some right wing imagination, some right wing fever dream.
	Well, that's very interesting because you see, I've got thousands upon thousands of hours of video, of documentary evidence, of network information that we put out into an entire book.
	I wrote about the Antifa, stories from within the Black Block in 2021.
	I infiltrated Chaz in 2020.
	I was there when Raz Simone loaded his nine millimeter.
	I was racing against people, drawing weapons in the midst of all of this.
	Going up against Antifa time and time and time again.
	So today we're gonna talk all about the Antifa.
	Who are they?
	What are they?
	Where did they come from?
	Where are they now?
	And it's very simple.
	Antifa, the Antifa, anti-fascism.
	This is their creed.
	This is their marketing strategy, and it always has been a marketing strategy for international communism, going all the way back to the original founder of Antifa, Leon Trotsky.
	The Bolsheviks were the founders of Antifa.
	Antifa was meant to be the international arm of the communist revolution.
	And the initial Antifa cells were funded and sourced from the comminter, Communist International, and KGB elements where 1930s Germany and 1930s Spain.
	This led to destabilization of the Weimar Republic, as well as destabilization efforts in Spain that broke out into the Spanish Civil War, which was completely supported by the communists.
	And it has always been such.
	It's pretty simple.
	They label their opponents fascists and then say that they are the anti-fascists fighting against them.
	But they're just communists.
	And they always have been.
	And I could sit here for hours going through chapter and verse of how this works.
	And we need to understand that.
	The right needs to understand what it is that we're up against.
	And we need the right tools and the right rhetoric the right words.
	People say, you know, Posobic, why are you so focused on words?
	Why are you push back?
	And why are you so particular about words?
	It's because it's the words that control our thinking.
	And if we use the right words, then we have the right thinking and we have the ability to create the right policy and the right strategy to actually go after the problem.
	So how do you go after a problem?
	The first thing you have to do is diagnose it.
	What is Antifa?
	How is it that Antifa works?
	What are these decentralized cells?
	What are these front groups that are used?
	Legal entities, NGOs, nonprofits that are set up in order to support Antifa operations, the black blocks that you see in person, but also the financing and funding of legal cover so that then when they get caught and they go to trial, or when they get caught and they get put up, that they have the ability to claim, well, like they did in Washington, DC, that they were mass arrested, and that wasn't fair.
	So then what so then those charges got dropped.
	They sued with the help of the ACLU, and the city of Washington gave them a million dollars after they attacked President Trump's inauguration in Disrupt J20s first in 2016-2017 and attacked my party, the Deplorable.
	Pete Heggseth was there, by the way.
	He'll tell you all about it.
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	All right, Jack Vesovic, we are back live, human events daily.
	We're here in Phoenix, Arizona.
	And we've got Blake Neff on, uh, Charlie Kirk Show producer, and someone who has uh with me spent a lot of time talking about the history of Antifa, the background of the of international communism and these groups, uh, as they were in their first iteration, as they were funded directly by Bolshevik Russia, um, 1930s Germany, 1930s Spain, they were ceded.
	Uh, that was what really gave rise to the destabilization of those and uh, of course, the Spanish Civil War, and then uh, you know, the fall of the Weimar Republic and the start of World War II in Germany.
	But that's different from understanding what Antifa is today.
	And so, Blake, the the first thing that I think we have to address is that these people running around and the left has already begun this mass gaslighting uh operation to say there's no such thing as Antifa, because Antifa is an idea.
	And by the way, my the first response, you like we're we're kind of setting up the debates, I guess maybe, but also talking about investigative procedures that can be done.
	The first response is always, well, yes, so is radical Islam.
	Like radical Islam is obviously an ideology, and there are groups that espouse that.
	That's what we're going after.
	It's really not that complicated.
	Yeah, it's not that complicated, but we should also concede there are it's it's complex in the sense that you can't just go out and say, like, well, we're going to, you know, blacklist Antifa, and then you know, you can't send money to the Antifa LLC anymore.
	Uh there's gonna need to be seriousness in the sense that there are specific organizations that adhere to this.
	There are entities that you know operate in legal gray areas or act to aggressively further illegal action.
	Um but some actually literally just do go by that name.
	Like there is an Antifa group in Portland, Oregon.
	It is named Rose City Antifa.
	I am at their dot org page right now.
	And groups like and other names like anti-fascist action is one you'll see.
	So a lot of cities have the the Seattle one has a name like that too.
	Seattle anti-fascist action is one, Chicago has one.
	Uh Utah.
	Utah has one as well.
	And uh there's also there's also a number of groups um that use the moniker of John Brown gun club, uh socialist rifle alliance, and that again, they exist for these specific purpose, and those exist for the specific purpose of uh training militant uh training with arms and training militant cells for these types of operations.
	John Brown, uh sort of proto-communist uh from uh the Civil War era and or pre-Civil War era.
	And so the the groups do exist, and and uh refuse fascism is another one, uh, which is of course is just one you know slight word away from Antifa.
	And the way that you go against these groups, and and by the way, though, this isn't actually anything new for the uh for the US government.
	Um, you know, for example, when when Rudy Giuliani himself, who has been incredible in the uh the fight to purge communists from our institutions and corporations in terms of the in the wake of Charlie's murder, um when he went after the five families of the mafia in New York, it's not like you just walk up to the mobsters and say, Hello, can you give us a list of everyone who was on the mob payroll?
	Of course that's not how it works, that's obviously not how it works.
	Um and yet, but and I remember also, by the way, and he tells the story that when he first announced his original investigations against the mafia, the media also used to say the mafia doesn't exist.
	And and yet obviously we know that he did that.
	And so it's so bizarre to hear it like doesn't exist when, for example, in you know, 2020, they were able to besiege a courthouse in Portland for like two months on end, and like there was murder there were murders committed, or the murderer is like, by the way, I'm Antifa, and they were able to do things like get him in contact with Vice.
	That was the guy from Portland, uh Michael uh or was that the was the victim's name, Michael?
	I can't remember exactly.
	But it was the one where Vice played the claim.
	And so, yeah, they eventually caught him.
	I think it was like Olympia Park, Washington, but he had crossed the border, so the Marshalls went out uh to go for him.
	He pulls a gun on them, and uh then there was no more Antifa.
	That Antifa went away.
	And at least in that instance, and and yes, Weiss gave him this this interview where he where he calmly spoke to them about how he stalked and targeted a Trump supporter and shot him dead in the street in cold blood because he was wearing a Trump hat and had been uh had gone to this prayer uh meeting, you know, in 2020, just in the middle of the street.
	And so and this these types of symbology, these types of rhetoric, of course, go up to and include the assassination of Charlie, because uh a number of the bullets, half of the bullets you could say, that were in this uh in this rifle, had Antifa symbology on them.
	So uh hey fascist catch.
	I love how the oh, well, that's a reference to a video game.
	Oh, why'd he pick that reference from a video game?
	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
	And and then Bella Chow itself.
	So Bella Chow was an Italian communist song from the uh from World War II, and has since gone on to become no, it's it's a very popular song in its own right.
	Um it's it's it's good tune.
	No, I was looking into it, and it's so funny because this is so common with a lot of the stuff.
	But it's a fake anti, it's like a fake World War II song.
	It's just a folk song, and they gave it the anti fascist lyrics like after the war, basically.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
	So it it was they they try to read this is what Antifa always does.
	So, for example, when I when they when I say Antifa comes from uh uh Germany, they'll say, Well, yeah, we were fighting the fascists, but that's just not true.
	No, you know, because the original, the original iteration of Antifa was fighting the Weimar Republic and the government.
	And in fact, there were multiple instances, uh, including in Bavaria and other times, where they would work with the national socialists in in sort of joint efforts, joint operations, joint direct action, as they would call it in their parlands, to uh just do things that would screw with the system or marches or strikes, general strikes.
	And and so Bella Chow has taken on, and so they just lie, which I mean, communists.
	Wow, who knew?
	Um, and so Bella Chow, that being said, has this dual role of yes, it is also a popular, very popular song in Europe.
	Uh the Netflix show Money Heist has it as sort of the theme song, but it is also the international anthem of Antifa.
	And you would have to be pretty familiar with Antifa and Antifa symbology to know that.
	That's just not something that the average person would be like, oh yeah, Antifa and their favorite song.
	You know, I know about that.
	It's that I don't I it it this may be the very first time that people are even hearing that information.
	And yet when you're in Antifa, uh, this is something that they fixate on quite a bit.
	Um it's it's you know, always very romantic.
	They're always telling stories about the Spanish civil war and how close we came.
	We almost had it.
	Um there are there's also a huge Antifa element that goes to Rojava and in uh Kurdistan, and so they're you know directly tied to a lot of the elements there.
	There's some ideological connections as well with Ojolon.
	Um and and and to be true, many of the militant members of Antifa would travel to Rojava, would travel to this area of Syria up there in Kurdistan and receive training from pro-Kurdish groups in weapons and in tactics that we know they've come back to the United States, and for example, one of them was participating in uh in the militant siege of Chaz up in Seattle.
	So we we can see these direct ties all over the place.
	And by the way, just in that instance right there, there are obvious international ties as well that would really open up what the government is able to do.
	So, Blake, you I think we've established sort of how Antifa works.
	There are front groups, some groups use the names, some groups don't, but it is a shared ideology and and to be sure, shared tactics, which so having uh a counter-terrorism background from when I was at Guantanamo, something that obviously uh uh funny enough, did you know that terrorists don't usually operate in uh in the open that actually they do hide?
	Wait, like you can't just go to their office in downtown, like the the terror office.
	It's not like the the bureau, you know, the bureau of al-Qaeda.
	It's no, actually, they they do this all the time.
	So this is a very common uh a very common procedure and art really to uncovering them.
	And of course, they always lie, I'm not really a member.
	Uh this is part of their masking of their operations, and so what you have to do is peel that away to and one of the best ways to do that is following the tactics, because when you see black bloc, when you see the specific targeting that they do, when you see these uh what we call tactics,
	techniques, and procedures, TTPs, so tracking TTP flow can be another way in terms of a course and and um in addition to of course the classic money communications, um network trees, all of that stuff that we're all very familiar with that the government will now be able to use to start mapping out these networks.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And so I I think I think we've got two minutes left on this segment, and I I I think we should also start talking a little bit about how just how the government has enormous powers that they can bring to bear now.
	Yeah, and I mean uh the most obvious thing you can do is like once you once you're willing to mark like, oh, this is actually like a highly you know problematic like pro-terrorist activity, you know, you can just bluntly be like, yeah, we're going to start looking much more Aggressively, uh, you know, if you're directing money towards those ends, if it seems like your primary purpose is to aid those ends, you know.
	What if we what if we decided to be like, hey, you know, we're going to actually start thinking about what why universities are giving honorary degrees to Angela Davis, who basically was Antifa in like the late 60s and 70s, helped murder several people.
	Bill Ayers.
	Uh yeah, Bill Ayers.
	Like a lot of these people, yeah.
	I don't know if there's any way we can still prosecute these people many years later, because those were all like obvious hash jobs that they screwed up.
	Oh, we can get creative.
	Yeah, that's I I love by the way, there's there's that meme about that.
	The Wikipedia page of like every uh domestic terrorist on the left is like social activists.
	It's like it well, no, it's always like early, it's always like early life, goes to college, participates in series of bombings, yeah, and then it's like uh goes to trial, gets out on a technicality, gets hired by an Ivy League college.
	Like Bill Ayers had to like flee the country for a while, and then he just came back.
	And they'll be like, oh, well, like the FBI like messed up some of the evidence.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't think that would have stopped us these days.
	No, perfectly.
	And it's and it's not gonna stop us.
	And and honestly, I think DHS uh could perhaps take the lead here because again, this is a domestic terrorist organization, and DHS absolutely has the uh great, great authorities to do to bring you bear right back.
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	You talk about influencers, these are influencers, and uh they're friends of mine.
	Jack Showing.
	Where's Jack?
	We've got a great job.
	All right, Jack Vasobic, we are back live on human events daily.
	Um we were very honored to have Megan Kelly joining us.
	Hey Jack, how are you?
	It's been a week.
	It's uh it's certainly been a week.
	Um, but oddly enough, it's like I can hear Charlie's voice like like in my ear sometimes, and it's just keep going.
	Keep going.
	Don't don't stop, don't worry about me.
	Yes, I'm I'm where I'm where God wants me.
	I'm doing I'm doing other stuff on one another.
	I uh wherever Charlie is, he's working.
	We know that.
	Yeah.
	No, I know what you mean.
	Just doing the show today.
	You know, we talked so much about Charlie, and then I we wrestled before I got here about do we do any other news?
	Do we do like regular news?
	And I was like, there is no way Charlie would want us to skip the Jimmy Kimmel story, you know, like that's no, no, he'd want us to have this moment of celebration.
	And he he'd want all of it.
	He'd want, he would honestly.
	I I could even say hear him saying, like, okay, Jack, like take take a day, fine, talk about what happened, but but move on, move on.
	Don't sit there.
	Yeah.
	And he that's who he was, though.
	It was it was all about what's the next thing, what's the next hill to climb?
	What's the next mountain we're going to conquer?
	And he would always be looking to do that.
	He he would take the, you know, he took Saturdays off, and it was the but it was the most aggressive day off that you could ever think of.
	He's like, I'm checking stocks, I'm looking at, you know, this thing, looking at this operation, what's going on.
	All right, family stuff, family stuff.
	Let's go, go, go.
	How did you guys meet?
	How do we meet?
	Um, I think we met at a CPAC, you know, briefly for the very first time, and we just had a mutual contact, you know, and is that hey, Jack Charlie, Charlie Jack, you know, and it's like, hey, you know, appreciate your stuff, yourself.
	And then you just sort of move on.
	And then uh I was at some other event, you know, in like 16 or 17, and I remember I picked him up at the airport.
	Funny enough, it was an Ed Martin event.
	And when he was running the uh Eagle Forum for Phyllis Lafley, and he just needed a runner to go to the airport and said, Hey, can you go pick up Charlie Kirk?
	And it's like, oh yeah, yeah, I met Charlie, you know, a while back, you know, I'll go meet him.
	And then, you know, you just sort of you're on the circuit, and then you keep bumping into each other, and then eventually it just sort of you just sort of realize that you're rowing in the same direction, and you get you get closer, you know, and it's it's that's my relationship with Charlie.
	You know, it wasn't this sort of like, you know, hey, let's go hang out and watch movies kind of play video games kind of relationship.
	No, same, same.
	It's like, let's go, let's go into battle.
	It's the nature of this business that there will be a bond between the people who are fighting for the same causes As you are, you know, I mean, I feel like this is how you and I kind of became friends, like over X after just being out there and plugging away every day.
	And just seeing, but you see somebody's character, you know, you see what they stand for.
	You see what they what they fight for.
	And you can't miss, you know, what somebody actually stands for if you spend enough time online or spend time listening to them.
	We I just saw you at Charlie's Turning Point event in July.
	Remember that we saw each other backstage.
	Yeah.
	And we all hugged, we hadn't had a moment, and it was so jubilant, you know, it was such a festive atmosphere.
	You just would never have known this was hanging in the balance.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, and I think back so that was I think that was the last time I actually saw Charlie in person was that event.
	And you know, there's there's certain things that when you bring them up, and it's it's tough because you know, they say it comes in waves, and there are times when I'm just like just in this past what's it's been a week, I guess, um, you know, where I'm totally fine, and I'm like, let's go.
	Hey, Antifa, finally, we've got the we've got the green light on that, which we've been gnawing at on the uh chomping at the bit for for, you know, for years.
	And you know, and then I'll I'll just some some thing, some song or some reference or just a certain phrase, and it's like, oh, Charlie used to always say that, you know.
	And I don't know about you, but I've been like refreshing X all the time for like news that it's not true, you know.
	Being here in the studio and where we spent and people, you know, the live streams that we did here, and you know, the you know, just we would hours and hours, you know.
	Charlie was of course famous for, you know, no breaks, no breaks, and you know, you'd run to the bathroom and run back.
	So he would go, you know, we'd go like four hours, and he's like, all right, Jack, you've got it.
	I'm gonna run to the bathroom, and then I come back, all right, and then I would then he would hold down and then I would go, and we just but we'd never stop.
	And then, you know, coming and being here every day, it's it's hard, but it's it's it helps you focus at the same time in a weird really weird way.
	Like I I'm kind of like like I think my wife will understand what I mean when I say this.
	Like, I'm glad I'm just not sitting around at home.
	Yeah.
	And that's right.
	And it because when I'm here, I associate it with work and doing the work.
	But I'll tell you one thing, I I just keep waiting for him to come through the door.
	Yeah, of course.
	I know, me too.
	I'm like, when when a news story breaks, I over the past eight days, I've been like, get Charlie.
	You know, you'd say that, and he'd always say yes.
	You could get him, you know, as busy as he was, he'd always say yes, and you just know, like when you saw he loved you.
	It was so mutual.
	You knew whenever you saw Charlie Kirk lined up for the day, it was going to be a great show.
	It was gonna be an easy show.
	He was such a good talker, he was so clever, he was so funny.
	You know, you'd laugh, you'd you'd hit things hard, you'd have deep philosophical conversations on whatever issue you wanted to go deep on.
	He could there was nothing he couldn't do.
	And I don't know, and I say this completely platonically, but I just fell in love with him.
	You know, you you fall in love with Charlie.
	To know him is to fall in love with him.
	I mean, I'm sure you can relate.
	It's like everything about him was likeable and lovable.
	That you can't say that about virtually anybody, right?
	It's like we all have our dark sides and I he didn't.
	And it's it's it's I I still keep like it's it's like right out of the corner of my ear, and I'm just waiting because whenever Charlie would burst in, and it was a burst, it was like boom, the energy just gets ratcheted up.
	Yeah, and he's like, boom, boom, boom, are we up?
	Are we live?
	Is this going on?
	Is this guest coming?
	Are we taking this feed?
	Are we on that?
	Do we have the clips?
	Do you have it all?
	And then you just and then you're in, and it's like you're on a rocket ship.
	Yeah, and Charlie's driving, and we're all going to this destination.
	And you better buckle up because you know, if you're not on board, like you're gonna get, you know, you're gonna get washed over.
	And and it was great.
	Yeah, the first time I saw him in person was at behind the scenes at a turning point event, and I was like, is that that's his go gear?
	Like I knew Charlie didn't do drugs and didn't drink alcohol or anything like that.
	But I'm like, if you didn't know him, you'd think he was on some sort of massive speed ball because he was just, I got this and I got that, and I can do this, and you knew everybody's name, and he was so well organized.
	You know, he was off caffeine.
	What?
	He had done I think for at least a year he hadn't had caffeine.
	That that that cup, that's that's uh that's a MT.
	yeah that's right.
	That was uh that was it's selling out right now at Starbucks across the country.
	Megan, I know you've got to run.
	Um, but thank you.
	Just thank you for being here.
	You Sunday?
	Yeah, yeah, I'll be there.
	All right, I'll be there.
	Much love to you, Jack.
	Thanks for having me.
	God bless.
	catch you Where's Jack?
	Where is he?
	Jack, I want to see you.
	Great job, Jack.
	Thank you.
	What a job you do.
	You know, we have an incredible thing.
	We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting published.
	All right, folks, we're back here.
	Human events daily, Real America's Voice.
	Want to say thank you to the entire staff at Real America's Voice, as well as Turning Point and uh and the Charlie Kirk show, the studio, just everything that they've been stepping up and doing this entire week.
	The fact that they've had to um deal with unspeakable horror.
	Many, and I'm just gonna say it, many of the people that are working here every day were at the event.
	Many of the people who were there, Blake was there, and and yes, they saw it, and they're still going.
	They're still going for Charlie.
	And someone else who has gone through more than any of us is Mrs. Erica Kirk.
	And I heard the news last night.
	Gonna admit, I heard the news last night, and I was like, I mean, I had to tie my hands together so that I didn't tweet it out because I was so excited and I was so happy when the decision came down that Erica Kirk would be named the chair and CEO of Turning Point USA.
	I mean, if you know Erica, if you've got to meet Erica, and I think people are sort of you know publicly getting to meet her for the first time, but she's she's so warm and so loving and yet so strong.
	And ever since she became a mother, you you can just see this strength that exudes from her and in the the way that motherhood does for the best moms.
	It it makes them better people, it makes them more complete.
	I've seen it, I'm speaking of experience, you know, having seen that same change in my own wife, Tanya Tay.
	And you know, I I've seen her a few times as well in the wake of this, and the way she's dealing with it, the tragedy, the grief, but also the anger and the resolve, the fortitude to understand that we stay the course, that Charlie's mission is now our mission, and Charlie wanted her.
	Charlie wanted her to do this, should anything happen to him.
	He said that.
	And it's the right pick, not only for the organization, not only for to honor Charlie, but it's the right pick because she's the right person to fill that role.
	And I think in a way, in a in a way that perhaps only he understood that when Charlie first picked Erica to be his wife, to you know, get together,
	get engaged, that he knew he could see it in her that she had everything, absolutely everything to take the reins to carry his torch.
	And so we're gonna do everything that we can.
	I know I'm gonna do everything I can to support turning point to continue to support turning point to step up and make sure that all of the interest and the Outpouring of generosity that's been flowing to the organization makes it so that Charlie's mission never ends, that the work never ends, that the fight never ends.
	That is absolutely what Charlie would have wanted.
	And it's just incredible to see.
	It's amazing that she even has the ability to do this.
	Thank you.
	And I'm sorry, I couldn't be happier in the sense that um the sense that I I don't want any of this to happen, but I couldn't be happier that this was the move that the organization made and that she has accepted.
	Uh I want to bring on our next guest now.
	I'm told that we have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is joining us.
	Senator, are you there?
	Hey, Jack, how are you doing, brother?
	Senator, thanks so much for for being here.
	Um I'd love to get your reaction if possible.
	I know that you know Charlie and Erica to this this news that uh Erica Kirk will be taking the reins at turning point.
	Well, I I had the privilege of knowing Charlie, you know, very well.
	Uh Erica, I didn't get the privilege of of knowing her like I wanted to, just met her a few times.
	But um what a perfect, what a perfect individual to carry on her husband's legacy.
	I I think one of the one thing that all you need is see to know the relationship that uh uh Erica had with with Charlie is when Charlie um announced to the world that he was engaged to her and the look on her face, the look on her face when he walked in and saying, I can't do this, I can't do this with you looking at me like this.
	I and she she just had this love and this all about him and who he was.
	Uh and then to see her strength when she stood up and addressed the world.
	Uh uh and it and uh and you saw the turning point USA's chapters just go through the roof of of people wanting to uh to to be part of it.
	There's no question that she needed to take the reins, that she was the right person.
	And and Charlie saw strength in her.
	Charlie loved her.
	Um they both had a vision and a love for for the outreach, because it was outreach that Charlie had.
	Out Charlie reached out to the young people, reached out to the world, preached the gospel, uh, would uh would uh would witness to anyone, uh, was a mentor, and and by his side, actually, I'm not I I would say hand in hand, uh hand in hand, they did it together.
	And so there's this is this is the right move, and this is the direction that turning point is going to go global.
	Well, you know, I think that's right.
	And and I I haven't really uh revealed much of what's going on behind the scenes, but I I've even been fielding uh a lot of those requests and messages from overseas, particularly in Europe, but also in in Asia, uh, South Korea and Japan, where Charlie held his last couple of stops as a as a matter of fact, where people are saying, how do we start turning points over here?
	How do we do it?
	How do we get involved?
	How do we get so so actually the you know the the organization is going to be even bigger than when Charlie was at the helm.
	And I think that I think that Erica is absolutely the person to make sure that whatever comes next, that this organization stays true to those ideals that uh that Charlie builded upon.
	And and to be sure, the entire team is staying on.
	Uh everyone who built this thing is behind Erica a hundred percent.
	And Jack, this isn't just about Charlie Kirk's legacy.
	This is to continue the movement.
	This is to continue what what Charlie built.
	Charlie wouldn't want it about his legacy.
	He wants to see that the mission that he started, the vision that he started continues and grow.
	Because it wasn't too long ago that Charlie, he he wanted to be on every campus, uh high school campus in the United States.
	Uh, I think there's somewhere around 23,000 plus campuses in the United States.
	And the last time I checked, uh, the last time I I saw Andrew put out a put out a uh a message out on on X. Uh there was something like 57,000 requests uh for turning point USA chapters.
	I don't know how they're gonna be.
	And that number, that number changes by the minute.
	So I know we only have a couple of minutes with you left.
	I did want to ask you, we do have news of the day, and uh I can hear Charlie in my ear saying, Jack, Jack, don't don't don't forget to ask the Senator about the news today.
	So um this this rule change regarding the president's nominees, many of which have been languishing uh in terms of confirmation.
	Talk to us about this new Senate rule change and how important it is.
	So we're what we're doing is restoring the norms of the Senate.
	The history, Jack, real quick, uh 98%, uh actually over 90 percent of uh uh non-essential, which I mean they're all essential, but I mean um non-cabinet members, non-judicial members, what we call uh civilian noms, were over 90 percent was voice voted since Obama.
	The first time that didn't happen, or uh uh I say previous to Obama.
	The first time it didn't happen is when Trump was in office.
	Only 60 percent of his uh civilian noms went through.
	And and and this is the first time ever in history that no one, not one single person has been able to go through by voice vote unanimous consent.
	So Chuck Schumer has with nuclear on the on on the Senate.
	What we have done now is we said, okay, since you're not gonna let the norms continue, we're going to do a rules change.
	Leader Thuon made this very clear at the beginning of Congress.
	He said we can either do this hard way or we can do this easy way.
	Chuck Schumer decided to do it the hard way.
	We're responding to it at uh in probably 15 minutes or or within 15 to 30 minutes from right now, we'll do the first in block where we're going to confirm 48 individuals at once uh for these nominees.
	We're gonna come back later and do 103 on another in block.
	We will have all the backlog done by the time we get probably uh mid uh October, and then we'll be waiting on the president to send us more noms.
	We will be able to get everybody that he has he has um on the list.
	As long as that paperwork is done, we'll be able to get them through almost immediately.
	Well, uh, Senator, that's incredible.
	I mean, you you look at those nominations and the fact that here we are sitting in September, President Trump made the nominations over a rolling course of weeks at the beginning of the year.
	That was all the way back in January.
	I mean, it's it seems inconceivable, I think, to the average American to say, wait a minute, you know, what's the government doing?
	How's the agenda being working for it worked forward?
	And they're still having open positions that exist uh all so many months, almost 10 months now into the admin.
	This is what the people voted for.
	Right.
	Well, but but Chuck Schumer, you gotta remember what's going through Chuck Schumer his mind is is that the American people got it wrong.
	I know best.
	So instead of giving the American people what they chose by saying we want Trump's administration and kick out the bones from the Biden administration, Chuck Schumer is saying, You got it wrong.
	We're gonna slow roll this and keep these keep these uh Biden uh uh appointees in place.
	That's that's not what the American people want.
	That's why they kicked the Democrats out of control last November.
	And hope and in 12 months from that election that happened uh last year, we're gonna have President Trump's um uh uh uh people in place and continuously putting this country back on track.
	And and that's what it is, because of course, going into midterms, uh we'll we'll start up very soon the political process, one third of the Senate as it is.
	It's very uh simple, I think.
	And and talk to me though about this though, Senator.
	The idea that it's that people are saying, you know what, those were the the new norm.
	It's it's gotta get thrown out the book about the window because these senators, these democrats are sitting there trying to hold up the process, and they know they're doing so on purpose.
	Yeah, is it it's it's about having to go around the obstruction.
	So many of these people have have too much pride in the name being a senator, and they forgot that they're serving the American people.
	It means nothing.
	If you're not doing what's best for America, you are serving yourself.
	And that is what's happened up here with the old guards like Chuck Schumer that has forgot what his role is.
	He's he's to support what the American people chose.
	American people chose President Trump to lead this country in the direction which is completely opposite to what his radical Democrats did.
	And instead, he thinks he's more important than the voters of the United States.
	And so we are uh leader thune has a different mindset uh than uh than than a lot of other leaders have been up here.
	He's going, we're gonna restore the norms.
	We're gonna get the Senate working for the American people again.
	And that's exactly what has happened.
	That hasn't happened quite some time.
	We've had leaders on both sides that that was interested in their direction that they thought America should go to, rather than leading uh uh uh uh allowing an American people to choose the agenda and then we're to carry up the agenda that they chose.
	You'd think that would be simple, but as we know, uh when the power flows from the people to Washington, D.C., suddenly that town, the beltway up there has a way of of making the simple so much more complex.
	Well, it's the way that the Senate is set up.
	I mean, I'd love I I I feel honored to be in the Senate.
	It is not my life.
	It's not what I that's not what I'm going to do my whole life, but it's an honor to serve.
	But the way that it is set up, different than the house.
	The house, you can you can be a chair of a committee because you get more people to vote for you.
	And you so by a soft by and when you're a sophomore, you can become a chair of committee.
	The way it works here in the Senate is the longer you set on the committee, you'll eventually become the chairman.
	That doesn't mean you're the best person for the position.
	You just out lived everybody else.
	When they get there, it becomes territorial.
	They feel like they've earned it because they sat there longer than everybody else.
	And there that's when their their own personal agenda gets in the way of the American people's agenda.
	And I'm not throwing any colleagues underneath the bus.
	It's just that Leader Thune has said now we're moving a different direction.
	We're going to work for the American people, and he is he is doing everything he can to make sure that the Senate works efficiently for the people again.
	And I I am thrilled to be able to be part of it.
	That's right.
	Look, we've got operational control of the border.
	I think now it's time that we ought to take operational control of the federal government.
	So thank you, Senator, for your hard work on behalf of the American people, the American voter, the American taxpayer as well.
	God bless, Senator, and Godspeed.
	Jack, thank you.
	And I'll see you Sunday, brother.
	I'll see you.
	We'll be we'll be there.
	Wouldn't miss it for the world.
	And that's right, uh, folks.
	This Sunday, of course, as everyone knows, the memorial for Charlie Kirk, the funeral for Charlie Kirk, we've set up and established FightForCharlie.com.
	So if you're trying to come, um, look, I I understand it's gonna be um very, very, very well attended.
	This will be the largest event in turning point history, the first full stadium show or or you know, event that has been held for turning point.
	And even if you can't come, you want to support there are ways to do that on fightforcharlie.com.
	And of course, every single bit of that is appreciated because all of it, all of it goes towards making sure not only the Charlie's legacy is honored, but that Charlie's legacy continues.
	And the best way to do that is to continue the work of turning point USA, taking his life's work.
	And and think about that for a minute.
	This is Charlie's life's work, his turning point.
	It's his legacy.
	It is what he leaves on the world.
	Perhaps, perhaps one day, Erica will be able to pass it on to the children if they want.
	You know, that's a story for another day, as they say.
	But that's what turning point is.
	Turning point was always meant to be passed on to the next generation because it was all about investing in the next generation, training the next generation, finding those leaders, finding that talent that was able to come up,
	that believed in the truth, that believed in American principles, that believed in the American nation, that believed in the American founding fathers, that believed in our religious heritage, the heritage of the holy Bible upon which all of Western civilization rests.
	Something, by the way, that we've been slipping away from.
	And I know that Charlie and certainly I have been calling this out for months prior to his assassination.
	And so that's why this event on Sunday is so important, because we're in the turning point.
	We're in it right now.
	It's gonna be covered on all the news.
	It's gonna be in all of it.
	Everyone's gonna be seeing it.
	But again, as important as this event is, there is a possibility that the event is a failure.
	And what do I mean by that?
	Sure, there's going to be a lot of people there.
	There's going to be incredible speeches.
	But if you want this event to be a success, which is what we all want, you must turn your anger and your sorrow into action.
	You must take those emotions.
	Take the horrific evil that was visited upon the Kirk family.
	And turn it into something good.
	Turn it into something true.
	Turn it into something real.
	Get motivated.
	Get active.
	And if there isn't a turning point chapter in your school or in your high school or even in your area, I don't know if they have local turning point chapters yet, but might as well just have to do them anyway.
	Sorry, Tyler.
	I just invented something.
	I just created more work for you.
	We're gonna do it.
	We're gonna do all of it for Charlie.
	And I'm very pleased to announce that uh just minutes after Senator Mark Wayne Wollen has uh stepped off camera here, the U.S. Senate has just unanimously unanimously established October 14th as the National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk.
	October 14th is Charlie's birthday.
	I couldn't think of a day that's more fitting than that.
	And I certainly hope we'll see.
	That seems like that could be a good day for Erica to head to Washington, D.C. to posthumously receive the presidential medal of freedom for her husband.
	They might do it this Sunday, we'll see.
	But if they don't do it this Sunday, I would say do it then.
	Do it in Washington.
	So that Charlie has one the same way that Rush did.
	The highest civilian honor that the president can bestow.
	And show me someone who deserves it more than Charlie.
	Yeah, can't you absolutely can't.
	So that's my message.
	Get activated, get focused.
	And when it comes to Antifa, be warned.
	You are on notice.
	I wasn't being facetious earlier when I said the Department of Homeland Security could play a huge role here.
	Domestic terrorism, domestic extremism, this is a massive, massive role for DHS.
	They have authorities, they have operations that can be brought to bear against the various constellation of organizations and front groups that constitute the Antifa threat.
	Yes, obviously, Antifa is an ideology.
	It is an ideology shared by various groups that are organized, some who use the name, some who don't, to perpetuate domestic terrorism and domestic terrorist ideology in our country.
	And it will be rooted out, root and stem from our nation, because they declared war on our nation.
	They shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
	I saw a leftist murder Charlie Kirk and I saw them celebrate it.
	I saw a leftist murder Charlie Kirk and I saw them celebrate it.
	We all did.
	And fix that in your mind.
	The singular point.
	This has gone mainstream, and there are operatives, there are individuals, there are groups, there are funding networks.
	All of it will be disrupted.
	All of it.
	It will be cast asunder.
	There will be not one brick left of this edifice when we are done.
	It's really simple.
	Leave now.
	If you're a member of one of these groups, if you're involved in this type of activity, walk away.
	Do the right thing.
	Maybe, maybe you could even help us.
	Remember, whoever flips first gets the best deal.
	So we'll see.
	We will see.
	But I promise you this.
	If you don't, you will not see us coming until it's too late.
	Because we're not going to stop at all.
	Until one night, get a knock on your door.
	And then it's time to go.
	Sleep tight.

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