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The Charlie Kirk Assassination is NOT a "Both Sides Issue"

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And while our side of the aisle certainly has its crazies, it is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far left.
After Charlie died, one of his friends and one of our senior White House staffers had left-leaning operatives in his neighborhood passing out leaflets telling people what he looked like and where he lived, encouraging neighbors to harass him or God forbid to do worse.
While he was mourning, his dead friend, he and his wife had to worry about the political terrorists drawing a big target on the home he shares with his young children.
Are these people violent?
I hope not.
But are they guilty of encouraging violence?
You damn well better believe it.
We can thank God that most Democrats don't share these attitudes, and I do, while acknowledging that something has gone very wrong with a lunatic fringe, a minority but a growing and powerful minority on the far left.
There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents' politics.
There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder.
There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend.
There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination.
And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree.
Did you know that the George Soros Open Society Foundation and the Ford Foundation, the groups who funded that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death, do you know they benefit from generous tax treatment?
They are literally subsidized by you and me, the American taxpayer, and how do they reward us?
by setting fire to the house built by the American family over 250 years.
I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
I want it so badly that I will tell you a difficult truth.
We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable, and when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism in our own country.
Now our government, you heard me talk to Stephen Miller about this, will be working very hard to do exactly that in the months to come.
We're not always going to get it right.
We will sometimes move more slowly than you would like.
We will sometimes move more slowly than I want us to.
But I promise you that we will explore every option to bring real unity to our country and stop those who would kill their fellow Americans because they don't like what they say.
But you have a rule too.
Civil society, Charlie understood this well, is not just something that flows from the government.
It flows from each and every one of us.
It flows from all of us.
So when you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out in hell.
Call their employer.
We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.
And there is no civility in the celebration of political assassination.
Get involved, get involved, get involved.
It's the best way to honor Charlie's legacy.
Start a chapter of TPUSA or get involved in the one that already exists.
If you're older, volunteer for your local party, write an op-ed in your local paper, run for office.
I can't promise you this is gonna be easy.
I can't promise you that all of us will avoid Charlie's fate.
Can't promise you That I will avoid Charlie's fate.
But the best way to honor him is to shine the light of truth like a torch in the very darkest places.
Go do it.
We owe it to our friend to ensure that his killer is not just prosecuted but punished.
And the worst punishment is not the death penalty, but the knowledge that Charlie's mission continues after he's gone.
St. Paul tells us in the book of Ephesians to put on the full armor of God.
Let all of us put on that armor and commit ourselves to that cause for which Charlie gave his life to rebuild a united states of America and to do it by telling the truth.
Thank you.
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Christ is king.
On Wednesday, political activist Charlie Kirk, a lifelong cub span in Chicago area native, was killed at a public gathering in Utah, leaving behind his wife and two young children.
The truth is, the enemy of misery.
The two children is 31 years old.
The two children is 31 years old.
Just uh this was for Charlie.
And I had a conversation once with Charlie where we were talking about the danger that we both faced from challenging entrenched interest.
And he asked me if I was scared to die.
And I said to him, there's a lot worse things than dying.
And one of those.
We'll stand in our way.
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So John eight, if I'm drawing from memory correctly, best embodies both Christ's mercy and love, but also his commitment to truth.
And sometimes in the modern gospel, we overemphasize the grace and we underemphasize the truth.
And so we are far too willing to say, hey, Jesus loves everybody, but we don't get to the second part of the conversation that says Jesus doesn't want you to live in sin.
For those of you that are not yet believers, it's very simple.
You're gonna have a court date, we all die, and you're all gonna meet the supreme judge of the universe.
Justice is getting what you deserve, which is going to a not so good place.
We're all sinners, and we all fall short of the glory of God.
But thanks to the cross, a perfect loving God who came down in human form, human flesh, lived a perfect life and died for us so that we can live forever.
At that moment, we're about to get that sentencing into eternal damnation.
Somebody says, No, no, no.
I know him.
I know her.
Welcome to eternal life.
You have an opportunity.
The gospel in four words is Jesus took my place.
Three words is him for me.
Two words is substitutionary atonement, and one word is grace.
Grace you cannot earn.
Grace, you do not pay for.
It doesn't matter how much money you give to the hospital, you can't earn it.
Doesn't matter if you're a good person, it doesn't matter if you have always done the best you can because what's different about Christianity is that it's a gift for all of humanity to receive, regardless of everything that we have done.
I want to be remembered for for courage for my faith.
That would be the most important thing.
Most important thing is my faith.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
Today is September 15th, 2025.
I know Domini.
I'm here live in Phoenix, Arizona.
I'm in Charlie's studio.
Charlie's chairs, it's right next to me.
And Charlie's here.
And in a way, Charlie's everywhere because he's with all of us.
And he's with God and his spirit will always live on.
And if you just heard Vice President Vance right there in the final segments of hosting the Charlie Kirk Show.
He said it.
He spoke plainly, and he was blunt.
This is no accident.
There is a violent extremist movement in this country.
And it is not a both sides issue.
One side has government taxpayer dollars and billions upon billions from the billionaire elite, funding them, propping them up, distributing their cancerous message.
and it is cancerous because when you have a cancerous ideology that is completely disassociated with humanity the only possible answer to that is to cut out the cancer we have to cut out the cancer Because if we don't, it's going to eat our society, and it's going to eat all of us bit by bit.
And we need to do it for Charlie.
And more importantly, we need to do it for everyone.
We need to do it for our country.
We need to do it for God.
And you know, look, folks, I'm no neurosurgeon.
I'm not trained in those arts.
But you know I know someone who is.
And in fact, he's joining us right now.
His name is Dr. Ben Carson.
Dr. Carson, thank you so much for joining us today.
So good to be with you under tragic circumstances.
Absolutely.
Uh Dr. Carson, I I compared what Vice President Vance was was talking about to a cancer.
You've got the background in this.
Would you say that's an inept uh analogy?
Uh yeah, I think it's a very good analogy.
You know, things have changed in our country.
There was a time not too many decades ago when people on the right side of the aisle and people on the left side of the aisle could have their arguments, but they were still friends.
They could still go out and eat dinner together.
They didn't try to destroy each other because basically they wanted the same things.
It's just that they had different ideals about how to get it.
Now we have two sides, and they don't want the same thing, and that's a big deal.
We have a side that is progressively moving towards socialism and communism.
And some people think this is of recent origin.
It's not.
It's been going on for decades.
And if you look in the congressional record, January the 10th, 1963, more than 60 years ago, Congressman Herlong of Florida read into the record uh from the Naked Communists, a book by W. Cleon Scarson, the 45 goals of communism in America.
And they included things like getting control of the school system and the teacher union so you can indoctrinate the kids, gaining control of the major media and uh Hollywood so that you could change the culture of our nation.
And we're seeing the fruits of those things.
There are many, many other things that they've said that we've seen happen as well.
And we need to understand that we're under attack.
Our system is under attack.
We can't Passively resist it.
We have to actively resist it.
This is America that we're talking about all the things that it stands for.
And you heard just uh last week a United States senator say it's foolishness to think that your rights come from your creator.
They come from government.
How can that be going on in our country?
But it is because we allow it.
And we have to make a decision about who we are and what we're willing to fight for, or do we just want to capitulate?
And Dr. Carson, you know, it's it's it strikes me that it was just two days before what happened with Charlie, that you and I were both there at that Museum of the Bible, that incredible prayer event that the president commissioned his commission on religious liberty,
where he spoke with again directness, fierce directness at that senator's comments and said, No, that is not where our rights come from.
And if we sever our relationship with God, as so many in this country have spent decades trying to do, we will sever our very relationship that provides us with those rights.
And then that is when you get to the point, as you say, in the communist Marxist radical goals where we begin to believe that others do not or should not have those rights as well.
That is the godless communist basis of what ultimately led to what happened with Charlie.
I I firmly believe there's a direct line there.
There's there's a doctrine that they have.
It's uh it's the same kind of doctrine the radical jihadists have.
They believe themselves to be righteous.
And because they are righteous and everybody else is an infidel, everybody else must either be converted to their way of thinking or be done away with.
And we're seeing that kind of philosophy creep into our society.
It's very dangerous.
I think these people who are toying around with socialism and communism and saying, "Oh, they're not that bad.
They're actually okay." They really need to do some reading.
They need to find out what has happened in the past.
Everybody who adopts their system adopts it under false pretenses.
But once they get their iron grip around you, you can't get away.
We need to understand that.
We have a system in this country that is absolutely wonderful.
That's what Charlie always talked about, and that's what he was fighting for.
And uh he recognized the incredible danger that we're in.
He tried to bring that to people's attention, but he always did it in a respectful, a nice way.
Let's hear your argument, let's hear my argument, let's compare them.
Let's deal with facts and logic and common sense.
And uh I think that's what we need to continue to do.
We need to really push the ideal of putting the facts in the middle of the table and arguing around the facts, not around ideology.
Well, I think that's exactly right.
And because Charlie did that, and because they couldn't debate him, they assassinated him.
And because he had the facts on his side, he had truth on his side, he had righteousness on his side, they assassinated him.
And I just don't know how you take that.
It is a it is a minority of people, but it is a significant minority of people who would do something like this, and then there's the you wake up the next day and there's tens of thousands of people celebrating it, cheering it.
It's it's become mainstream almost.
And I think some of the the talking heads were were saying they were originally blaming Charlie for it.
They were saying it was his fault that he got assassinated, and he should have watched his words or else something would happen.
That is a tyrannical anti-humanity kind of mindset.
It it actually is.
And It wouldn't surprise me if it's part of a plan to silence the opposition to frighten them into silence.
And uh, you know, if this one doesn't do it, maybe there'll be another one.
Uh, we have to be very vigilant, and people need to understand that this is a real war that we're in.
And, you know, there were people who had information who could have reported what was going on and perhaps stop this.
And there will be people out there all the time who see things.
We need to recognize that this is a war, and you're a participant in it.
You may wish to go sit in the corner and hide, but eventually it affects you, so you may as well get involved right now.
I think it's exactly right.
Dr. Carson, uh, do you can you hang on for a couple minutes?
Are you are you able to hang on with us?
Absolutely.
We're gonna hold on.
Dr. Ben Carson, when we come right back, we'll continue.
Justice for Charlie Kirk.
And in our way in our golden age has just begun.
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We say that now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means.
Welcome to the second American revolution.
So John Eight, if I'm drawing from memory correctly, Bastard's the most awesome thing ever, everybody.
It's amazing.
I could be traveling for six days, but as long as we get one Sabbath, it makes up for all those six days.
No phones, no technology, just family and quality.
Well, and it's quality over quantity, and you know, when Gigi sees you walk into the room, she just be lines for daddy.
When it comes to your child, you are tasked to protect them both physically, spiritually, and emotionally.
You as men are a lot tougher and a lot more productive and can work a lot harder than you think.
You can push yourself even harder.
Because here's the one thing I have found.
Once you have kids, there is this primal thing that comes into you where if you think you have worked hard before, you are willing to go to the ends of the earth and push yourself in ways that you never thought possible, and that is your initial and most important task of all.
We need to celebrate, embrace platform, and sometimes if necessary, subsidize getting married and having children.
We are not having enough children in this country.
This is a national crisis.
I don't want to hear about well, you know, racism is a threat to America.
It's a bunch of horse pucking.
Oh, environmentalism, climate change.
Do you know what a threat to our country is?
We're not having enough babies.
We should celebrate big families.
The wealthiest people that I know are the ones with biggest things.
Big families, they are never lacking in purpose, they are never lacking in direction, and they're never bored.
The most unhappy people in America are bored.
Boredom is a gateway to deep unhappiness.
Raising children is hard.
It is a death to yourself.
It is the one of the most difficult things you can do.
Jack Zobik, we are back live, Phoenix, Arizona.
Uh we are in the Charlie Kirk Show studio.
Of course, Charlie on assignment with God.
Dr. Ben Carson is our is our guest.
And Dr. Carson, I I'd I'd like if you could to address this exactly what the vice president just said there in his closing statement, that this is not a both sides issue.
And we've heard so many talking heads lately say, well, you know, there's political violence on both sides, so let's just let's just be anti-violence, and it's it's really a both sides issue.
Is is is this a both sides issue, Dr. Carson?
This is clearly not a both sides issue.
This is not to say that both sides don't have some cleaning up to do, but uh all you have to do is think back to George Floyd and what happened after his death.
Uh billions of dollars of damage, dozens of people killed, fires and attacking the police station.
I mean, it was incredible.
And what has it been done in this case?
Vigils, prayer, and uh contemplation.
Completely different.
I don't know how you know anybody can say those are similar reactions.
And one of them I think stems from the fact that uh it is uh God inspired, and one of them stems from the fact That it is inspired by evil.
And we need to just face that.
You know, this country, the founding document talks about our creator.
Our Pledge of Allegiance talks about being one nation under God.
Every coin in our pocket, every bill in our wallet says, in God we trust.
And God is love.
And God is justice.
And it was our faith, our belief in God that took us from a bunch of ragtag militiamen to the pinnacle of the world in record time.
That was not a coincidence.
That was because of our belief systems.
And some people say, Yeah, but you can't say that because the United States of America had slavery.
Well, that was a horrible thing.
I will readily admit that.
But so has every other society.
And one of the things that you have to give us credit for is we had so many people who were vehemently against it that we fought a bloody civil war to stop it and lost a large portion of our population.
There are good things about the United States of America.
And it's the reason that we have a dream.
You've heard of the American dream.
Have you heard of the Russian dream?
Or the French dream or the Canadian dream?
I don't think so.
You heard of the American dream.
Everybody knows about it all over the world.
And it's a desirable place to be.
And it's where dreams come true.
And now we're faced with a time of severe division that could ultimately destroy us.
Jesus said a house divided against itself cannot stand.
And our enemies understand that.
And that's why they're using every tool they possibly can race, gender, income, religion, politics, you name it.
They're using it to try to divide our society.
They can't overcome us militarily, but they can destroy us from within.
And there's a great attack upon our foundation.
What is our foundation?
Our families and our faith.
And uh you made a very good point about the birth rate and what's happened to it in the 60s.
It was 3.6 births per woman.
Now it's 1.6 births per woman.
You can see where that will lead.
And we need to once again embrace the ideal of the family.
And we need to embrace policies that are pro-family and that are pro-faith.
That's exactly right, Dr. Horson.
And when we get faith right, you know, I was thinking about something, and we we said it here in Charlie's studio the other day when we were doing a one one of the many memorials to Charlie that we're doing is that maybe you could you could streamline it and say, you know, it's add to what Andrew Breitbart always taught us that politics is downstream of culture, but you could streamline it and say culture is downstream of faith.
And if you get your faith right, then your culture will be right.
And if you're good, your culture right, your politics will be right.
And that is why, when, as you say, when they went back to the 1960s, what was the first target was God and the family.
And that's why we always talk about it.
God, family, country in that order.
One of one of my old you know, phrases we used to do the turning point t-shirts, be a rebel, start a family, and just that's that's a rebel, a rebel act in today's day and age.
Well, I've done that.
Charlie did that.
You, Dr. Carson, have done so much for so many families who uh have had families in trying times.
And I just wanted to say thank you for being here for speaking out on this cancer in our society, and of course, your kind words for Erica and for the children and the entire Kirk family.
Thank you, Dr. Absolutely, and thank you for what you're doing.
And we have to just remember there was a reason for all this, and something will come out of it, but we have to be part of making that happen.
Amen.
We do.
God is challenging all of us, and God is clearly on the move and using this as a turning point.
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.
And these are the guys who'll be getting Pulisic.
Well, it's your clear like whoever.
They call everybody they disagree with Nazis.
I felt like I had no choice but to do what I did.
So yeah, kill the Nazis.
When conditions become right, people do get the opportunity to change the whole system to a revolutionary struggle.
The international revolutionary people's forces were to defend social revolution now.
We gotta fight it out, we're gonna re-leave this country in the streets!
Liberals get the wall first.
Someday we gotta knock those motherfuckers to control this thing right on their ass.
All right, Jack Prosovic, we're back here.
Phoenix, Arizona, turning point headquarters.
And um, guys, I'd love if we can at some point, I don't know, even for the bumpers or for like, you know, maybe the box up in the corner there.
I'd I'd love to show that the vigil for Charlie Kirk, that this incredible vigil that's going on is just a few a few steps away from from where I'm sitting right now here inside uh the you know the Charlie Kirk studio, and it's it's incredible.
I've I've gone to it, you know.
I go out there and and come back, and it's it's you know, we're we're keeping the lights on, we're keeping the mission on, we're keeping the mission going, we're staying mission focused here, but at the same time, you just see this incredibly spontaneous outpouring, not just here at Turning Point, but also it's it's worldwide.
It's it's completely worldwide, and the remembrances of the man sat right there, sat right in that chair that have been going on are nothing short of a miracle.
We are in the turning point, but at the same time, there are people who refuse to join in because we can't deny, and we're not gonna be blind, and we're not gonna be deaf to the things that we saw and the things that we heard after the news of Charlie Kirk's assassination broke worldwide.
The celebrations, the cheers.
I actually want to get I'm gonna call, I'm gonna just we're gonna call for this on the fly in the studio.
I want you guys to pull out that clip.
There was this rapper, this um Bob Villain came out and and was cheering at a con.
I want to play that.
When take a take a second and and we'll get that clip up.
Um, you know, when we do, because I want people to hear this.
I want people to hear how pervasive and sick and cancerous and disgusting it is Erica Kirk.
She she stood right here, giving that amazing statement, speech, eulogy, memorial, battle cry for her husband.
This wasn't a car accident, this wasn't a plane accident.
What was done to Charlie was a deliberate and intentional act of evil by evil doers.
They assassinated him because they could not debate him, and then they turned around and cheered.
And whether it's Antifa, whether it's the radical trans movement that was just shooting up schools of Catholic children in Minneapolis, two years before Christian children in Nashville.
and it shows you're going to sit there and tell me it's both sides you're going to sit there and tell me you're going to sit there and tell me Oh Jack, what about the both sides?
No.
We're not doing that anymore.
We're not playing that game anymore.
I don't care anymore.
How many more friends do I have to bury until we can stop this?
No.
Because I'm not burying any more friends.
I'm not leaving any more people.
No.
No, we're not doing that anymore.
We're going to the next level.
And we're going to the JD Vans level.
That's what we're doing.
Because the organizations are out there.
The people who had pre-knowledge of this are out there.
Go read the free beacon.
Go read the article.
You can see the tweets are all up.
I haven't addressed this.
I've seen it all.
And the people mocking, the shaming, the humiliating will continue.
Call their employers, every last one.
Do not stop calling.
Mayor Giuliani, America's mayor, is a patriot.
He has been calling them personally.
Keep it up.
Keep it all up.
Violent left-wing extremists did this.
They assassinated a good, innocent man.
And this cancerous ideology will be stopped.
It's as simple as that.
I want to bring on, I want to bring on State Senator Jake Hoffman.
He's here from Arizona.
He's also, of course, a huge part of the turning point family.
Senator, how are you?
I'm doing, I'm doing well.
For the can considering all things, I'm doing okay right now.
Of course.
I just wanted to say thank you for your efforts and your word, your words at the Kennedy Center vigil last night.
Thank you.
Yeah, that was uh an incredible God-filled opportunity last night.
I mean, not just uh not just my, you know, how he spoke through me, but how every person that spoke, you know, I was amazed because they all had one consistent refrain, Jack.
And that was that Charlie lived to honor Jesus and all that he did and all that he did.
Um, and you know, if that's the biggest takeaway, Charlie wanted that to be the biggest takeaway from his life.
But if that's the biggest takeaway from last night, I think that is the best thing we could have done to honor his life and his legacy.
Because what we see is that his impact, it stretched far beyond just college campuses.
You know, from South Korea to London.
We've had millions of people pouring out to honor Charlie Kirk because he was slain at the hands of a monster, uh, an assassin's bullet.
And last night we saw the highest echelons of American government, of world leadership turn out.
We had over 85 members of Congress.
We had about 25 to 30 senior administration officials there in the room.
The speaker of the House was there, gave a beautiful uh you know, tribute to him.
Tulsi Gabbard, DI, everyone is willing to double and triple down on Charlie's vision for America, which thankfully is shared by MAGA, is shared by President Trump, and is definitely shared by Vice President JD Vance.
And that's we want to build a greater, better America.
We want to unite us and unify this country.
We do not want to fall to the level of the party of death and division and destruction that is the Democratic Party today.
I mean, you talked about the vile filth that is online.
Blue sky has been an absolute cesspool ever since.
You know, I remember the days when Parlour, I'm old enough to remember when Parler was taken offline for zero point one percent of the posts on the platform being considered vile and hateful.
Yet Blue Sky is run amuck with celebrations of Charlie's demise.
And yet nothing happens.
It tells you where Silicon Valley still stands at its core, and we've got to make sure that we reorient the conversation in a direction that Charlie would have liked.
And that means open, honest, and free exchange of ideas, no matter who you are, no matter what you think.
We want to be able to talk through it.
And then we're gonna go our separate ways, and everybody gets to go home to their families at the end of the night.
Look, it's as simple as that.
And that's and and beyond, because I see I see big names on the left, YouTubers and and others saying that oh, it wasn't a leftist, or oh, Charlie deserved it, and all this.
It's I'm done.
I'm so done playing these games.
This was your side that did this.
There is a grieving widow.
She stood right here, right here, delivering that speech.
And I'm done playing the game.
I'm done this little this little dance, this little this little happy funny little dance that they want you to do when you when you have a job like this.
I'm not playing that game anymore.
No, no, I'm I'm absolutely not playing that game anymore.
It has to stop.
It simply has to stop.
If people want to go back and just have the debates, I'm all for it.
Please.
That that's what Charlie stood for, right?
Charlie stood for that and he stood for prayer.
And he always said, he said, come to church, whether or not, and there was beautiful church were packed like Easter Sunday.
Yesterday, he would say, Come to church.
I don't care what your politics are, just go to church.
Just go to church, meet Jesus.
He cared about that way more than any politics.
Way more.
And what did they do?
They turned him into a Christian martyr.
Jake, I I know you gotta run.
We've got um, we're we're running out of time in the segment.
Where can people go to follow you and see everything you're up to?
So you can follow me on X uh at Jake Hoffman A Z on X. Thank you, Jake.
Appreciate it.
be right back jack prosobic phoenix arizona from the charlie kirk studio Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're gonna turn it around and make our fact be right again.
Amen.
This is you.
This is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
But this right here is you.
This is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
This is you.
This is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
But this is you.
And this is their reaction when you are killed.
This is the joy they feel when your sister is raped.
When your children are castrated, brainwashed to hate you.
This is their ecstasy when the floor of the subway car is a wash in your blood.
This is you.
Make no mistake, that is a symbol that is you.
But this won't last long.
They can't help themselves because they're so ugly and so low that the only joy they can experience, the only good that they can envision is to take something beautiful or innocent down to their level.
And when they can't do it, the next best thing is blood.
I want to dedicate this next one to an absolute piece of sh** of a human being.
Thank you.
The pronouns was in peace, Johnny Pack, a piece of...
All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back here in Phoenix, Arizona.
I know we had to bleep a lot in that last clip.
That was Bob Villain.
And he was saying horrific things, cheering on the death and assassination of Charlie Kirk, my friend.
And the people were cheering.
An entire concert hall for people cheering.
We want to bring on now someone who was in the fight with us deep in the trenches with us in 2024.
And that man's name is Cliff Maloney.
Cliff, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me, Jack.
How are you holding up, brother?
It's been rough, man.
I gotta tell you, you know, sometimes uh going through all this, uh, we're almost to what a week.
Um, you know, I I don't know if it's quite hit me yet.
Uh seeing Erica's speech, you know, getting the chance to talk with Tyler, seeing Andrew on TV, but I gotta say something uh to your listeners out there.
Watching your CNN speech or your interview, I should say, um it hit real hard, man.
Um when when they asked you, you know, is this war, and you responded with my friend Charlie's in a box.
That was tough.
And I I don't say that to bring about hyperbole or sensationalize it, but Jack, you know, you as a friend to hear you say that about a mutual friend in Charlie, and then to have to explain to her this was not an accident.
He was not in some sort of car crash.
This was a targeted specific attack to take out a good friend of ours because they disagree with his politics and they could not defeat him when it came to having conversations or winning an argument.
You know, I just thought it was wild.
So I just want to thank you for going on there.
I mean, look, you you you compare that to the great memories we've had over the last, you know, not just a couple years, but even just the past couple months, winning the election, November 5th, us getting the call with Pennsylvania.
I mean, I'm trying to focus on some of the positives, right?
And you remember election night when me and you were battling with Charlie and saying, Charlie, we gotta call Pennsylvania.
We got the votes, and Charlie was having his PTSD from 2020 of calling it too early.
Those are the things I want to remember him by.
You know, those happy moments of him being so deep in this fight, and not just being in the fight, but us coming together and winning in 24.
My big message to everybody out there, we are just getting started.
We are at the next level, we are pushing.
We've got everybody amped up, obviously feeling horrific about the tragedy, but we're not gonna give the other side what they want.
We are not gonna stand down.
We are gonna double down, and we are gonna defeat these radical lefties, these communists, and we do that by winning election after election, throwing it back in their face, pulling the normies to our side because they don't know what they've unleashed with this horrific heinous act.
I want to make something very clear that I don't know if people realize this.
So the shot where Charlie is and and and Cliff, you and I were on this this you know, sort of hyperviral moment where we make the Pennsylvania call,
and you said it, and then Erica runs in the room here in this very studio, right here, and she runs in and she's she's hugging Charlie, and he's got his head in his hands, and he's praising God.
That's the very same spot on earth where Erica was standing delivering the memorial speech to her husband.
That's the very same spot.
So from the happiest moment to the hardest moment.
And it was in the same spot.
Jack didn't happen by accident.
It was no accident.
It was done deliberately as an act of evil.
Go ahead.
One comment that I think I didn't never put that together until you just said it.
And that is when you and Charlie both agreed in harmony on election night, it's all God.
You know, listen, I'm not the most devout Christian, right?
I've had my moments, but when I look back at that, that was a moment where I really felt a piece with God, with Jesus Christ as my savior, to see two of the guys I trust the most after we announced this huge win, after years of sacrifice and doing the work, for you guys to both turn to each other and agree it's all God.
And then to see what has happened since this tragedy of so many people turning to the church, turning to God, atheists proclaiming they're now going back to church.
Friends that I know that have just been non-practicing, whether Protestant or Catholic, who now say, you know what, I'm gonna pick up my Bible again.
I've never talked about religion on television, and I'm here telling you that I think we are seeing something with Charlie now being a Christian martyr, but to think about that night, you're right.
We were in the same spot calling the election where we had that moment, saying it's all God, and Erica delivering that statement that was heard around the world.
I really appreciate you putting those two together because I had not thought about that, and there's got to be some deep meaning there.
It's it's it's something.
Look, we we can't know it.
God knows it.
God above knows it.
Christ the King knows it, and that's where Charlie's at right now.
He's with the king, and he's he's uh he's on he's on another mission, he's on another level, he's on another mission.
But it did happen, right?
This was their response.
That's why they did this to Charlie.
Because Charlie beat them.
He beat them at the election box, he beat them in debate, he beat them on campus.
And the way they responded was with a bullet.
Because that was the only thing they had left.
Hey, fascist catch written on the casing.
People need to wake up.
People need to wake up.
You need to wake up.
You all out there need to wake up.
Because I don't I'm I'm upset about what happened, but I don't want to sit around feeling sorry.
All right.
You need to lock in.
Everybody needs to lock in.
JD Vance is locked in.
Cliff Maloney is locked in.
Are you locked in?
Because it's time.
Cliff, give your coordinates.
PA the PA chase, that's where you guys can check us out.
PHase.com.
I'm gonna hold on any pitch here, Jack, and just say, look, we are doubling down.
Pennsylvania is the red wall.
Follow us online.
You can check me out out on X at Maloney.
This is all for Charlie.
And those are the two words I'll end with to you, Jack.
For Charlie, that's why we'd fight.
Don't back down.
Double down.
It's time to lock in.
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