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Sept. 4, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec

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America Is Not A Revolving Door - Live From NatCon

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	Christ is king.
	I want to go into Chicago and have this incompetent governor that doesn't want us.
	Do you know that this weekend 72 people were shot in Chicago?
	I'm embarrassed to say it in front of the President of Poland.
	This morning, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said to testify on Capitol Hill amid turmoil at the CDC and backlash to his vaccine policy.
	Kennedy defending the direction he has taken the public health agency, saying he's working to restore public trust.
	It has never been associated with my carditis.
	I am simply trying to say that the people that you have put on that panel after firing the entire question.
	The state of Florida plans to end all vaccine mandates for children.
	They say Florida will phase out all of the longstanding vaccine mandates put in place to protect children against diseases like polio and measles.
	You have expressed many times your frustration and disappointment with Putin, but there's no action.
	How do you know there's no action?
	Would you say that putting secondary sanctions on India, the largest purchaser outside of China, they're almost equal, would you say there was no action?
	That cost hundreds of billions of dollars to Russia.
	You call that no action?
	The new president of Poland was here at the White House today aiming to strengthen his relationship with President Trump.
	One goal that the president of Poland had going into this was getting reassurance from President Trump that the American soldiers on the ground in Poland will remain there.
	They've long wanted to have a larger presence.
	We have some countries that have more, not too many, but no, they'll be staying in Poland.
	We're very much aligned with Poland.
	The U.S. is set to, quote, wage war on narco-terrorist organizations.
	That remark from Secretary of State Marco Rubio just a day after a U.S. military strike on a boat allegedly carrying drugs from Venezuela.
	The week's events have heightened tensions with Venezuela and President Nicolas Maduro, who President Trump claims is in control of a notorious criminal organization overseeing the drug trade.
	Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
	We are here live, Washington, D.C. Today is September 4th, 2025, Anno Domini.
	As you can see, we are not normally in the place where we film.
	We're not also in our new studio because we are here on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference 2025, which is being held here in the nation's capital, the now freest city and safest city in America, Washington, D.C.
	So what we've done is we're going to sit down and go through a series of talks, some interviews, some sit-downs, and a plenary address that was given by myself earlier today.
	We're going to play that in full for you here on the program.
	And why come to the National Conservatism Conference?
	Why hold a national conservatism conference?
	What does it even mean?
	Well, to me, the idea of national conservatism is when we look at all of the issues in our country right now.
	What is the biggest one?
	The biggest one are these questions of what are nations.
	Do nations exist?
	Well, I say they do.
	Now, some people will tell you that nations are just economic extraction zones or just lines on a map, but I disagree.
	I think a nation is its people.
	I think the people come first, and then the people form a nation.
	That's clearly what our founding fathers believed.
	That's clearly what the pioneers on the frontier believed.
	They believed they were forging a Nation.
	They were fighting for a nation.
	They were creating something from nothing when they came to America.
	That was the pioneer spirit.
	And that's been lost.
	That's absolutely been lost.
	And we have these policies now in place where people like the Mamdanis and the Jaya Pals and the Muhammads come over and can take power over our cities and over our people.
	And obviously, there's a problem with that.
	There's a problem with policy.
	There's a problem with thinking.
	There's a problem with rhetoric.
	And I'm hoping that we can now begin to address that.
	And do so from a perspective where people understand that this fight is about national identity.
	And national identity exists because nations exist and nations are different.
	That's what the point is of different nations.
	It all goes all the way back to the Bible and the Tower of Babel.
	We are not meant to be one uh global morass of mush the way the globalists would have it.
	No, we are absolutely diverse and multicultural nations, but you cannot have multiculturalism in one nation, or that nation will be torn apart.
	Diversity isn't our strength, unity is.
	So you have to have something to unite around.
	That's why I when I come in and I say, oh, you know, I'm totally against burning the American flag.
	That's what I mean.
	I mean having unity around the shared, protected national symbols, and that's why they do deserve a special protection beyond other things that are protected in our society.
	But let's let's cut the crap for a second.
	Obviously, burning a flag is not the same thing as speech.
	An act of violence and vandalism and burning is not the act of uh using speech or engaging in speech, writing speech, drawing a cartoon.
	Obviously, it is something else.
	And so when we look towards the National Conservatism Conference, and when we have the ability to debate these ideas and to sit down and actually have these discussions, we can then learn.
	And we can see what works, what doesn't work, we can see what is popular, what is not popular.
	And so one of the great speeches that was held here was what is an American.
	I think that actually is a seminal speech for and a spec seminal question for us where we are and who we are.
	We have to define it.
	Because this idea that nation that anyone can magically become an American just because you cross our borders and they hand you a piece of paper is not working.
	It's not working out for New York, it's not working out for Detroit, it certainly isn't working in Minneapolis.
	And so hopefully we can be here at the National Conservatism Conference, debate these ideas, hash it out, and come forward working with the Trump administration, who said a lot of people here today to be able to figure out what way to go forward to save our country and hopefully save every country that is facing this problem.
	We'll be right back.
	Jack Posobiec, we're here at the National Conservatism Conference, Human Events Daily on Real News.
	Nothing will stand in our way and our golden age has just begun.
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	Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
	Welcome to the second American revolution.
	Well, good morning.
	Ladies and gentlemen of the National Conservatism Conference.
	My fellow Americans, to my friends, and especially to my enemies.
	I have a message for all of you specifically.
	You are losing, and we are winning.
	Make no mistake.
	For years they told us our cause was hopeless.
	They told us that borders were just imaginary lines on a map, that crime was the new normal, and that America's must bleed.
	America must bleed its sons and daughters in forever wars all around the world with no end.
	But today, we stand here with proof in our hands that they were wrong and we were right.
	Look at our nation's capital where we are right now.
	Washington, DC, once a lawless symbol of Decay has now changed seemingly overnight.
	Washington, DC, as we stand here now, is now the safest city in the United States of America.
	And how?
	How did we do this?
	Because we had the courage to bring the tools at our disposal.
	We brought in the National Guard.
	We enforced the law.
	We gave police the resources that they needed.
	We said enough was enough.
	And Washington, DC has now gone from a punchline to a model that we will replicate around the country.
	That is victory.
	And we know who showed us the way.
	President Donald J. Trump, the man who stood up and said, America first is not a slogan, it is a mission.
	And special thanks as well to President Naeb Bukele of El Salvador, because you proved that when you fight crime with courage, when you take your nation back from the gangs, safety and order can be restored.
	These men gave us a blueprint, and it is our job now to carry it forward.
	And that fight, my friends, is not just here at home.
	Because for decades, our military strategy was wasted in forever wars, in deserts, halfway around the world, chasing ghosts while our own communities suffered and decayed.
	But the sea change is here because we are done dying in wars that never end.
	Instead, we are bringing the fight to where it belongs against the cartels that are poisoning our children, that are killing our families, these criminal networks that have been waging direct war on our people every single day.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the military strikes on the cartels have begun.
	And let me tell you something.
	The only thing that I want for Christmas this year is more cartel strikes.
	Folks, this is what it means to fight for America, and this is what it means to win.
	But I want to shift gears a little bit because I want to tell you about something that the globalists never want you to question.
	And this is a fantasy that has been pushed for years in this country, particularly since the post-war era.
	And this fantasy is something called the blank slate.
	Now, what do I mean about the blank slate?
	Well, blank slaters believe that people all around the world are interchangeable cogs.
	They say that anyone from anywhere can be dropped in America, and then poof, overnight, they're a red-blooded American.
	Ladies and gentlemen, that's not reality.
	That is reality.
	Go look at the propaganda.
	It's everywhere.
	And it's very simple.
	But we can see when a great city like New York, our greatest city, is on the precipice of being run by a Zoran Mamdani.
	I think we realize that something has gone absolutely wrong and something has to give.
	Because as I stand here today, we are less than 10 years away from one of America's great cities being run by a Muhammad.
	We know it's coming.
	We can call it out, and it is time to say enough is enough.
	Something has to give.
	These people are not American.
	They do not want to be American, they do not want to assimilate, and they are not interested in assimilation.
	And I say if they don't want to be part of this country, they can go home.
	Look around the world.
	Look around the world.
	Korea is Korean.
	Saudi Arabia is Saudi.
	Africa is African.
	I personally moved to China myself.
	I lived there for two years.
	Da Dao Gong Chandong.
	Da Dao Gong Chandong.
	Well, Ganny Show, what Jen do Jan Zomanda, Josh.
	But take a look at me, folks.
	I'm not Chinese.
	I'm just not.
	I'm never going to be Chinese.
	It is a fantasy.
	And if I ran around telling you that I was Chinese, you would call me a lunatic, and you would be right.
	You see, when it comes to gender fluidity, the right seems to get this right and understands it.
	But at the same time, many seem to support this idea of nation and national fluidity.
	This is based on a discredited fantasy of the blank slate.
	Nations survive because they defend their identity.
	They don't pretend that they are blank slates.
	And this is serious because what happens when we open the floodgates to mass migration?
	Do we get one united America?
	No.
	We get a fractured America.
	And that's the situation that we've been in for a long time.
	We get many nations growing inside our own borders.
	Little Bangladeshes, little Kabuls, little Mogadishus.
	Do these mass migrants suddenly erase centuries of culture?
	Do they erase their old loyalties?
	Do they bring those loyalties?
	No.
	They bring the loyalties with them, they bring the conflicts with them as well.
	And then we're told that we have to celebrate it even when it divides us.
	Well, I will tell you something.
	Diversity is not our strength.
	Unity is our strength.
	And this is a huge problem because we live in a time and age where technology plays a huge role here.
	Because of this technology, you have the ability for these nations to essentially still live in their home nation.
	They present themselves as still being members of their home nation.
	They say this in their own words.
	Go listen to uh Omar Fatah up there in Minneapolis.
	Go listen to some of the things that these people say.
	They refer to Somalia as their homeland.
	And I say, when they tell you what they believe, you should listen.
	It's really simple.
	We don't want entire towns where the American flag has been replaced by a foreign one.
	If you want to wave another flag, then you are free to do so on the flight back home.
	And if you want to burn our flag, you can take a trip to jail.
	The truth is it's simple.
	Some people can assimilate, but many are not interested to.
	That's not bigotry, that's reality.
	And pretending otherwise is destroying our nation.
	The blank slate is dead.
	Nations are not interchangeable.
	People are not interchangeable.
	And America is not just dirt that you stand on and trod beneath your feet.
	A nation is a culture, a history, our faith, our tradition, and our people.
	So this is what I say.
	No more lies, no more blank slate, no more mass migration that turns America into someone else's homeland.
	Because what happens if we lose that?
	Well, if we lose that, then you lose the soul of America.
	And if you lose the soul of America, then there is no America left to save.
	And I promise you this, we will never ever let that happen.
	Every year, we see millions upon millions of people coming into our country on these temporary visas, worker visas, student visas, tourist visas, and every year they break their word.
	They commit fraud, they commit scams, they commit schemes, they break our laws and they don't go home.
	That is not immigration.
	That is invasion.
	That is invasion and infiltration.
	And we're going to tell you who is behind it.
	Because we're going to name names of the biggest violators of our immigration laws.
	The three biggest are China, India, and Mexico.
	China sends in waves of these so-called students every single year.
	Many are tied directly back to the Chinese Communist Party.
	And you can just open the newspaper or human events in the post-millennial.
	I see their editor-in-chief right here in the front row.
	And you can see stories every single day of the theft of American research, in many cases, national security research, in many cases, government-funded, U.S. government funded research that is stolen and sent back to the Chinese Communist Party.
	Then we also see these cases where they overstay, they steal our technology, and they treat America like a buffet line.
	In fact, the Chinese national just recently stole the entire source code of XAI, and I believe handed it over to open AI.
	Then you have India.
	India milks the H1B system dry, replacing American workers in our own tech companies, undercutting wages, and they're laughing all the way to the bank.
	That's why President Trump is coming in with the tariffs now.
	And people got really mad when I said this online.
	But ladies and gentlemen, we gotta end the scam calls, and I think a great way to do that would be tariff every single one of these call centers.
	We know they're going on overseas.
	We know exactly where they're coming from, we know how to do this.
	That's a good, that's not a service.
	Okay, midwits with the word thinking.
	Let's just stop for a second and understand.
	The United States Constitution authorizes the government to impose duties and imports on any foreign commerce.
	So guess what?
	There's nothing in the Constitution that says we can't, and in fact, we are going to.
	And Mexico, right?
	In Mexico.
	90% of these seasonal visas, the work visas go to Mexico.
	And every time, thousands upon thousands of these workers don't ever return.
	A temporary visa turns into a permanent stay.
	Ladies and gentlemen, that is not guest work.
	That's permanent trespass.
	That is invasion.
	So I say, you know what?
	No more.
	If you cannot abide by our rules, if you cannot follow the laws that have been written down, and if you do not understand that the ability to come to the United States is not a right, it is a privilege, then you lose the privilege because you have broken our rules.
	So no more endless visas for China, no more endless visas for India, and no more endless visas for Mexico.
	America is not a revolving door, it is a sovereign nation.
	It's really simple.
	I mean, uh, I'm a dad.
	I say the same thing to my kids.
	If you abru if you abuse the privileges, you lose them.
	It's really that simple, ladies and gentlemen.
	And so if these countries continue to refuse the rules, the answer is simple.
	We're gonna stop.
	Stop issuing these Chinas for the stop issuing these visas for China, stop issuing visas for India, and stop issuing visas for Mexico.
	If you can't obey the rules, then you will lose the privilege.
	It is simple as that.
	From now on, folks, we will put American workers first.
	We will put American families first, and we will put the American nation first.
	Ladies and gentlemen, God bless you all here at the National Conservatism Conference.
	God bless America and God bless the American people.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
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	We're back here at Human Events Daily.
	As you can see, we're on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference here in Washington, DC.
	Just saw the great uh speech that we did earlier.
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	And then, of course, we're sitting down now with administrator Kelly Loffler of the Small Business Administration.
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	Well, folks, we're we're here at the National Conservatism Conference.
	I I I gotta say, this is an incredible event.
	Uh, you've gotten great speakers from members of the U.S. Cabinet, President Trump's cabinet, and then just a wide array of people who, yes, there's differences of opinion.
	Not everyone who agrees with me, but that's fine.
	They're perfectly within their rights to be wrong.
	And I'm more than happy to correct them when they're being wrong.
	But but no, there's there's been a great uh, I would say camaraderie of ideas here, and I really appreciate the work that they're doing, the ability they've had, and there's been some great debates here, and I like the idea that yes, some of these ideas are going to be controversial.
	Absolutely.
	That's the whole point.
	Because we're figuring out what the problems that we have in our society are right now and what are the best ways to think about them.
	And one of those people who's really at the forefront of it is administrator Kelly Loffler, who signed with her today.
	We're very excited to be here sitting down, Washington, D.C. We're on the sidelines of the National Conservatism Conference, and we're with the administrator of the SBA, Kelly Loffler.
	Great to see you, Kelly.
	Great to be with you, Jack.
	Well, we've had a couple of interesting weeks together.
	You just came back and we were there, the Polish inauguration.
	Tell me a little bit about that and then what it was like being with the two presidents.
	Well, first of all, it was such an incredible honor to lead the U.S. presidential delegation to Poland for President Novrotsky's inauguration, and great to run into you there.
	It was amazing.
	And thank you again for addressing in the uh Polish colors of red and white today.
	Yeah, I can't.
	You're still you're still representing.
	After the great meeting at the White House yesterday, one month later.
	No, it was an incredible inauguration, but also a moment in history.
	I mean, I really think President Trump changed the outcome of this election for the better, for the better of Poland for the Polish people.
	And actually for our partnership, they're a model ally, uh, not just in terms of NATO, but in terms of economic uh energy, defense, all these important areas that um Poland is just punching above their weight, and they're growing.
	They're now uh a trillion dollar economy, as President Nowski said yesterday.
	So it's been a really incredible uh thing to be a part of, and uh I'm now advocating to all my friends and family to to visit Poland.
	Uh you know, I I uh coming from a Polish family, and you know, uh, you know, you you grow up in the US Polish and and you know you you hear all the the schoolyard taunts and all the rest, and I would fire right back, don't get me wrong.
	I got plenty of Italian jokes, Irish jokes, all the rest.
	But it's you know, it it's it's it's really been amazing to see what Poland has done and to show that it can be done.
	And it's a testing bed, I think, for so many of these ideas that we see come in in the United States, uh, public law and order, uh fighting for your your culture and your identity against uh tremendous out external forces and outside pressures, and and showing that it can be done, and it can be done with love and it can be done with faith.
	Absolutely, and you mentioned faith.
	I mean, this was what impressed me so much, and I think we're seeing this in America a return to faith, um, but an unapologetic embrace of Christianity, of the Catholic faith.
	And it's so powerful that we went right from the inaugural events into Catholic mass, and uh and uh the the prayers at the tomb of the unknown soldier, um the the important grounding of that in that culture really reverberates, you know, back to Pope John Paul's visit to Warsaw.
	I mean, so much of the history uh is so rich, and I think we're getting back to our Judeo-Christian foundations in America finally, and I think it's gonna mean so much to millions of people.
	Well, I I think it's when you know the these these cultural warriors launched all of this.
	What was the first thing they went after was God in the public square, and they said, whatever you believe in is fine in private, but don't bring that out in public.
	Well, I think that hasn't quite worked out very well for us.
	It hasn't.
	And in fact, we're actually taking meaningful steps at the SBA to reverse that.
	We're seeing it all over the federal government.
	There's a task force to ensure that Christians and religion and religious freedom uh are are not suppressed anymore in this country, but there was a concerted effort uh that started uh probably long before the Obama administration, but you know, uh amid that time, and then accelerated during the Biden administration.
	So we have to be vigilant.
	I'm grateful to President Trump that he's restoring dialogue about faith and religious freedom in this country.
	Well, and I know that does this tie to because uh your office has really been fighting debanking and this this practice that's gone on.
	We've we've talked to to ranchers who are facing this because they don't like the practices of the ran to Maha or to, you know, some certain policies, and and we face or people for religious beliefs and uh freedom of speech issues.
	How is the SBA fighting this debanking that we've seen going on?
	Yeah, so President Trump signed an executive order to end the banking, to return fair banking to all Americans.
	Uh it shouldn't have to even do an EO about that.
	It should be a a pr business practice.
	But under Obama, it started with Operation Choke Point, where they targeted certain businesses and started Using reputational risk as a criteria for bank examinations.
	And so banks got very concerned about banking certain clients, particularly in the 2A space, for example.
	Gun manufacturers ammunition, gun stores.
	But then it spread, obviously, to other places, and it ended up being pro-life or Christians or conservatives or so this was happening over and over.
	Obviously, under Biden choke point 2.0 came up.
	And so now, and we've even seen it at the regulatory level.
	So OCC, FDIC, the Federal Reserve were doing bank examinations based on reputational risks of clients.
	When shareholders tried to sue to stop that to say we should be maximizing shareholder return and banking for anyone who's a legal business, the Biden administration blocked those shareholder proposals to stop debanking.
	That's how activist this government got.
	So we put out a letter to our 5,000 banking clients at the SBA demanding any examples of debaning and to end that practice, which thankfully the federal regulators are also working hard to end.
	The Federal Reserve Board uh withdrew their guidance to end guy uh evaluation on reputational risks.
	So we're gonna get there, but uh it's a culture shift that undoes a lot of the damage over the last 16 years.
	And Jack, where is Jack?
	Where's Jack?
	Where is he?
	Jack, I want to see you.
	Great job, Jack.
	Thank you.
	What a job you do.
	You know, we have an incredible thing.
	We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting public.
	Well, and this this almost sounds like a uh, you know, something that's Chinese Communist Party would do this the social credit score.
	Uh, we of course saw this in uh you know, with some of the wokeness and CRT ratings and uh the DEI ratings that they were given in in the market, and it seems like they were doing the same thing in the banks.
	That's right.
	I mean, it's kind of like a greenwashing of everything, like, hey, look over here, we're we're green, we're we're part of the climate circus.
	Don't look over here where we're suppressing law-abiding Americans' ability to not just grow a business but even start a business to start a philanthropy.
	I mean, there's well-documented examples of this.
	In fact, even Elizabeth Warren has said they have 12,000 examples of debanking at the CFP.
	No fan.
	But you know, at the same time, I think you know banks that we have talked to are happy to get out of the political politicization business as long as regulators aren't gonna ding them.
	And so we have to make sure that we're not okaying it at at the commercial level and we're not okaying at the government level.
	We want to shine a bright light on it in the practice and get back to helping America grow.
	And that's what the SBA is doing.
	And then I believe the president, I think the first lady herself also experienced that.
	That's right.
	Absolutely.
	The family uh I was debanked in my campaign.
	So over and over.
	Um same thing happened on the legal side, and and to see that happening, you ask yourself, is this a one-off or is this not right?
	But it's snowballed, and and you just saw cases and cases.
	So those days are coming to an end.
	In addition, at the SBA, the Biden administration had blocked uh religious adjacent businesses from getting federal disaster loans illegally.
	And so now we've reversed that, and we're able to go back and give dozens of uh faith-based organizations, churches, small businesses, loans that they deserve when they need it most, when they're hit by a flood or turn a tornado or a hurricane.
	So all these illegal practices were happening within the federal government.
	And so many of those businesses are in the Bible belt, and that's what was been hit over the last couple of years by floods, hurricanes, and everything else lately.
	And they're the ones that are there for their communities.
	I was in Texas at the tragic floods that happened over Fourth of July.
	It's the churches that are helping the communities recover.
	They're marshalling resources, they're serving as a point of prayer and of of providence for people.
	And the Biden administration had uh illegally shut that off.
	So we're back to um, you know, the way America runs should run.
	America is a way of life, and obviously we should be always supporting that way of life in every level of government.
	Uh talk to me about a little bit more on the business side though.
	So SBA uh is obviously turning things up as well.
	President Trump has put business front and center.
	He is a businessman, so I'm sure uh I'm sure you have lots of conversations with him about that.
	What is he giving you the director for and how are you executing it?
	Well, first of all, it's an incredible honor to serve as President Trump's administrator of the small business administration because as President Trump says, small business is big business.
	It's 99% of every business in America is classified as a small business.
	They create two out of every three new jobs.
	And in fact, 98% of all manufacturers in America are small businesses.
	So it's our defense contractors who rely on those small manufacturers to uh produce subassemblies and other services.
	So really, if we didn't have small, the 600,000 small manufacturers in this country that employ five million Americans and soon to employ millions more with the 15 trillion dollars that President Trump has brought into this country already, we wouldn't be able to build things.
	And the media narrative is we can't do it.
	We need to rely on the Chinese Communist Party to build things for us because we're not capable.
	That's not true.
	We we sent a man to the moon.
	We uh built airplanes, we've created AI and chips and fracking and all the things that power this economy toward exceptionalism that we're returning to.
	So without small business, though, that engine of main street of job creation and really of hope of our communities, like the community I grew up in.
	Uh I grew up on a farm near a town of 600.
	There were two businesses in that community besides the grade school, uh, a grain elevator and a union training center.
	When the jobs left our town, the last business, the union training center closed.
	That meant there was no training, there were no apprenticeships, and there were no jobs.
	And these communities, thousands of them have been left behind.
	It crushed millions of dreams.
	And President Trump believes in the American worker.
	He believes in American industry, he knows that's going to restore this country.
	And that's why this fair trade effort is so important.
	It's not just about collecting tariffs, it's about making our country safe and prosperous again, because we've been on the receiving side of really uh predatory trade practices by hundreds of countries around the world.
	I I spent time living and working in Shanghai and uh in my, you know, even before I joined the military, and and I would so I was my job at very low level, but you know, helping US businesses try to sell into the Chinese market.
	And it's almost impossible.
	It's almost impossible to do that.
	That's right.
	It that the trade goes one way, and then when you try to bring anything over, uh we had Hershey's chocolate at one point.
	It was uh was uh was a client from Pennsylvania, so that they put me uh you know kind of on that one.
	And uh, or you know, or even Disney when they were trying to get in, and it was so hard the hoops you had to jump through to be able to do this, movies and and all the rest.
	But then when it comes to this way around, when we throw up anything, they they immediately scream trade war.
	Yeah, it's it's not just the monetary trade barriers, the collecting a tariff on our pickup trucks, which we cannot sell in Europe.
	Nope.
	Uh can't come across that 40% whatever the tariff.
	It's the non-tariff trade barriers, like you said, the hoops you have to jump through.
	Uh, and and that has really put up walls.
	And small businesses are the ones that bear the brunt of it.
	The rest of the world can sell into a small business's market in the United States, but a small business is shut off from the rest of the world because of the non-tariff trade barriers.
	And that's why President Trump's fair trade policy is so vital to the survival of this country and restoring our way of life.
	Because if we can't make things here anymore, if we can't compete on a level playing field, um, what are we supposed to do?
	Continue to be dependent on the Chinese Communist Party for our pharmaceuticals.
	No, it's ridiculous.
	And and you mentioned from a national security perspective as well.
	I can remember so many times, and obviously can't get into too much of it where you know working in Navy intelligence and you're you know working on some project and you have this.
	This is when I was there, this is sort of when UAVs and drones were really kind of becoming the new wave.
	Now they're here, obviously.
	Uh you know, we can't rely on other countries for those things.
	We need to make them in-house, but every so often you need at that particular widget to make your to make your new gadget work, and you are at the brunt of having to go overseas for that.
	And that's obviously a huge problem when it comes from a national security perspective if we're relying on this for our ability to uh not just have pharmaceuticals, not just have um all of our our precursors for medicine, but actually our own ability to defend ourselves.
	That's right.
	That that's why we built uh what I call make onshoring great again portal at the SBA.
	You can go to our website for free.
	And if you're sourcing things from outside the country, we've provided a free merged triple merged database of one million domestic suppliers for components, for inputs, uh, to look at maybe there are suppliers domestically that if you're a small business, you can pull from that database.
	It's at SBA.gov.
	And those are just some of the things we've done at the SBA in a short amount of time on my kind of 50 state manufacturing tour.
	But at the same time, we're doing more business than we ever have.
	Uh we've cut agency headcount almost in half.
	We've cut the spend in half.
	We found three billion dollars of wasteful contracts, and as a result of getting all of that out of the way, we're doing more for small businesses in Main Street and getting the focus off the woke bureaucracy and picking winners and losers that was happening under the Biden administration.
	Final question, because I know you've got to run.
	When you go out when you're on this tour, when you're talking to manufacturers, uh, when you're talking to these folks uh that are running the small businesses, how are they responding to all of these changes at the higher levels?
	Main Street feels heard again, they feel like they have a voice and they feel optimistic.
	And and that's not just what I see anecdotally.
	Small business optimism is above its 53-year average now, and the highest in five months.
	So they know President Trump's fair trade, low tax, low regulation, pro-worker policy is gonna fuel their business.
	So they're investing more than ever.
	We're introducing larger loan sizes, new loan programs to fuel Main Street, so they're incredibly optimistic.
	They're so grateful to President Trump, and it's such a blessing to be able to work for him and with this entire administration.
	Actually, and I did uh about the last question.
	Did I hear that there is a loan record that you guys just hit?
	Yeah, we did.
	So uh we've surpassed, I believe it's 51,000 loans now, it's the highest in 10 years.
	And so we are just like a small business, we are doing more with less.
	And I think that's happening across the entire federal government.
	We found so much waste, fraud and abuse.
	We found it in USAID.
	We've revoked their independent contracting authority, they were abusing it.
	There was massive bribery around a $550 million contract, no longer.
	So, and this is all my peers in the cabinet are doing this.
	Like we're making sure to hold uh ourselves and our agencies accountable and get back to working for the American people.
	Amen.
	Administrator Lawford, thank you so much for joining us here in the future.
	Thank you, Jack.
	be with you Jack is a great guy.
	He's written that fantastic book.
	Everybody's talking about it, go get it.
	And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
	And we're gonna turn it around and make our country glad to get down.
	Amen.
	All right, guys, we're excited to be here in person for once in a while with Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events.
	Libby, how do you like NACON?
	I'm finding the questions that are being asked this year really fascinating.
	We we keep getting into what is an American, what is America, and uh how do we keep our culture?
	Well, and and that's you know what I was trying to get at in the speech, to even take that what is an American and and kind of go a step further with it to say that if there are people, and there clearly are, who either they cannot assimilate or they're not interested in assimilating, or because of technology and all these other factors that they don't have to assimilate, then then what are we doing?
	What are we doing?
	Yeah, and in your speech this morning, you asked that question what does it mean if you're an immigrant coming to America, you're not assimilating, and let's say you applied for asylum, but you're still going home to your home country where from whence you apparently fled to visit family for vacations and things like that.
	Like what's going on there?
	What is it about being in America that you want if actually you still have all these ties to your home country?
	And when you look at the Ellis Island era, people had to leave Europe, they stepped onto the ship, and a lot of people never went back, you know, they never went back even to see their parents.
	And when you look back even further, the people that left, you know, on the rickety wooden ships.
	Well, it was it was it was never going home again.
	The the whole idea then was we are cutting ties with the old world, we are embracing the new world.
	This is why, for example, uh, as we are both descendants of Ellis Islanders, you know, We, you know, language was one of the first things that we you know was severed that they wouldn't teach their kid the old language.
	This you must speak English because you want we want you to assimilate, we want you to be part of the country, and we know that you learning English will be the fat without an accent will be the fastest way for you to do that.
	And and certainly we all knew people growing up who, you know, okay, they speak Italian at home or there's some Polish here and there, but for the vast majority, no, it wasn't it was cut off immediately.
	Yeah, and I think that's a huge part of it because language, you know, in a lot of ways is not just the way we express ourselves, but it's how we formulate our thoughts.
	You formulate your thoughts in a language, and languages are different, right?
	I mean, there's some languages that don't have the same concepts as other ones.
	So you need to be part of uh to be part of American culture, you need to understand English, you need to be thinking in English.
	You need to be thinking about it.
	I'm like that little I made that little gimmick of you know saying talk I'm I'm not Chinese, you know, and uh so someone behind me was like, oh, that's really good Mandarin.
	Oh thank you, I just whoever that was.
	Um but um you know, in Chinese, they uh I was just gonna mention something.
	Uh it's so simple, but I didn't realize this.
	You know, they don't have a difference between finger and toe.
	Really?
	Right.
	So they say they say finger of the hand and finger of the foot.
	Well, that's that's a little bizarre.
	But it but it's it's it's just how they think.
	Right?
	It's it's just how they think.
	Or or their word for uh their word for shark, for example, I always thought was funny.
	They call it kill uh killer fish.
	And so that's a killer fish.
	Uh computer is an electronic brain.
	Oh, that's not good.
	I don't like thinking but that's not an American concept to you and but again, it's it's just it's their language, and that's how they do it, and that's how they think.
	You know, they try and you can think about it in certain ways.
	Sure.
	And and that's great.
	But it's again, it's not American.
	Right.
	And and that's okay.
	Right.
	That's totally fine for China to be Chinese.
	I I I would not go to China and tell them they can't be Chinese.
	But I I think that we've come to this strange point, and I I I was hoping to tie, I don't know if I quite got it there yet, but but tie together these ideas where the right stands so much against the idea of and the falsity of gender fluidity.
	Right.
	And yes.
	That was interesting.
	And yet when it comes to national fluidity, nation fluidity, where, oh yeah, yeah, anyone could be and it's it's just not true.
	Yeah, I think that that's true too.
	And it's something that growing up in America in the 80s and 90s, you don't really think about because American culture was at that time so entrenched.
	English was so entrenched, you know.
	Christian values were were bedrock to this country.
	And what happened over the past, you know, 30 years or so is one by one these things were cast off by mass migration.
	Through mass migration and by the progressive liberal order of this country, you know, saying that interesting enough, the same people who were pushing the mass migration.
	Pushing the mass migration.
	Almost like they had a plan.
	Oh what?
	Almost like it was deliberate to observe in some way.
	So perhaps it was intentional.
	Perhaps it was, you know, a nation destroying exercise.
	Uh our country and destabilize Christianity and destabilize the American way of life.
	But that was and replace it with globalist values and globalist values are nation-destroying values.
	That's like the point of them, right?
	Well, I I was actually one of the the lines that I had said, I was chatting about this last night with Tanya, and I said, you know, it'd be like it'd be like going into the kitchen and saying we're gonna take all the in your so you know the melting pot, right?
	Well the melting pot actually does fall apart when you think about it, because uh if you went into the kitchen and took everything you had into the kitchen and poured it into a pot, how do we how would it taste?
	Oh, it would be bad.
	You don't need soy sauce and salsa.
	Definitely on spaghetti.
	Definitely you don't want that.
	No, you know, or like or like putting cheese on Chinese food.
	Right.
	No, that's what is that.
	There's not a lot of cheese in Asian cuisine.
	No, it's not a good thing.
	No, it's it's just not uh again, it's just not generally part of their diet.
	Something I learned that, you know, when I was in China.
	Okay, great.
	You know, it's it's just different.
	And so you you realize that when you you get to a point, you know, at some point, you know, you know, the soup is good, but at some point it just turns into sludge and slop and mush.
	And do we really want that?
	Do we want to live in a country like that?
	Do we want our children to live in a country like that?
	I don't think so.
	No, I think we want to, I think we want a strong culture that we can identify.
	And American culture used to be identifiable the world over.
	And I think it's I I think that Americans are still identifiable the world over.
	Like if I go to Italy, obviously I'm not Italian, even though my great grandparents came from there, I'm obviously American, you know.
	And that's something that I love about us.
	I love how we um I love how you can always tell it's an American.
	We've got matching t-shirts, we're too loud, we're wearing sneakers, you know.
	But I guess we love that.
	Yeah, and and one of the one of the terms that's come up here, and it's you know, and I love the contentiousness of of some of these topics that they're not afraid to get into, you know, the the one guy was up there just talking about household voting.
	Right.
	Right.
	So that's an interesting concept.
	Although I said, wouldn't that disincentivize marriage?
	It would disincentivize marriage, and it's also, you know, you have a situation where then whoever is the loudest mouth and the most controlling.
	I would even say that, you know, in in mail in voting, you already have households.
	I agree with that, and I think that's a problem.
	Which absolutely somebody's standing over you.
	The idea of the private ballot is very sacred.
	And I think it, I think if you mess around with that, you're you're really causing a lot of problems, which we saw in 2020.
	Right.
	And so the but I love that we have these ideas.
	And so there's there's this new phrase that's come up, the paper American or the paperwork American.
	You know, so and and Zora Mondami is this perfect example of what we're talking about, someone who's come to this country, he wasn't born here, he's been a citizen for about five minutes, and he immediately starts talking about direct communism.
	Right.
	And his parents are globalists.
	They're complete globalists.
	I mean, like quintessential.
	They're rich, they have a compound in Uganda.
	His dad teaches like anti-colonialism at Colombia, ludicrous.
	Anticolonialism at Columbia, does that remind me of certain former president or that who of questionable Americanism, shall we say?
	But but it it's it's I think that as a movement and as a as a people that's going through these conversations, and they're tough.
	History is complicated.
	History is not a straight line.
	You know, it is it's a tapestry and it's a story, and it's it it's all kind of works together.
	But you know, to answer this question, what is an American?
	I think it goes to the center because our policies flow from these questions.
	And when we had this idea in, say the 1960s that America was a nation of immigrants, well, what did we get immediately after that was the 1965 Immigration Act, which started the mass migration.
	And so I really think that when you look at the upheavals in American society, certainly the people's all across Europe, the election in Poland, which is predicated on the idea of blocking mass migration, it has become the question of our day.
	Yeah, and another thing, I was talking to Jonathan Keeperman at Passage Press about this.
	Lomez.
	Yeah, about what is American culture and how do we capture what that is.
	And we were discussing, you know, bringing bringing the founding stories, you know, making the stories of our founding, these myths, these legends, these true histories, the frontierism.
	Histories, the frontierism.
	The like we've lost everything about the wagon train, right?
	Why have we lost that?
	The only thing anybody knows about the wagon train anymore is Oregon Trail.
	We gotta bring it back.
	You know, maybe we should.
	Bring it back.
	Oregon Trail, the series.
	But we need to talk about it.
	We're gonna we're gonna end on that.
	Bring back Oregon Trail from you know, uh, from by the way, a member of Generation Oregon Trail.
	Okay.
	Libby, tell people where they can find you.
	You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons, and you should check out everything we're doing at the postmillennial.com and human events.com.

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