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The Anchorage Accords - World Peace & WWIII Hang In The Balance
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We're now just two days away from President Trump's very important meeting, potentially historic meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
It's going to happen in Alaska and Anchorage, to be exact, as they prepare to potentially negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine.
The fighting between Russian and Ukrainian forces goes on and on and on.
And the Ukrainian president, who, by the way, will not be present at the meeting, he's voiced his opposition to President Trump's suggestion that land swaps could be on the table to bring about peace.
Do you face any consequences if Vladimir Putin does not agree to stop the war after your meeting on Friday?
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What will the consequences?
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There will be, I don't have to say, there will be very severe consequences.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C. Today is August 13th, 2025.
Anno Domini.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Anchorage Accords are coming.
World peace hangs in the balance.
Think of all that has encompassed, think of all that has occurred to prevent these accords from taking place.
A sit-down meeting with President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
We're going to examine all of the possibilities, the possibilities for war, and yes, we know those and there are many.
But also, perhaps, just perhaps, the possibility of peace.
And by the way, peace does not mean alliance.
Peace does not mean friendship in times such as this.
Peace does not necessarily mean embracing.
But what it means is a prevention of war.
The United States and Russia are the world's two preeminent nuclear powers.
Russia has proven on the battlefield that they are not walking away from Ukraine.
Mel Zelensky, of course, will not attend this summit in Anchorage, Alaska.
However, the discussions between Ukraine and Russia are currently taking place on the field of battle and in places like Prokrovsk and others where you're seeing huge breakouts of the Russian army right now and collapsing Ukrainian front lines.
We've discussed here on this very program, we'll get into it later on the show, about how Ukrainian supply lines are being cut right now going into the Donbass region.
Ukraine and their army is facing a manpower problem.
And that's a problem that no amount of drones, no amount of money, no amount of weapons being sent over is going to fix.
And everyone can see the situation.
The precariousness, the political situation deteriorating, corruption charges now being levied from parties all across Ukraine.
So will the United States choose peace?
Will Russia choose peace?
And there are big questions about this as well because there are hardliners in the Kremlin.
There are hardliners in the Kremlin who say Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporizhia, Kherson, they're not enough.
We want the whole thing.
We want the whole enchilada.
There are people in the Kremlin who say we need to go all the way up to and including Kiev.
Take the whole country, or at least up to the river.
These are serious questions.
And when it comes to sanctions, perhaps this can be a nugget that President Trump can dangle in front of them.
If you're in Russia right now, you can't use a Visa card.
You can't have access to a lot of American media, unless you're using a VPN or something like this, obviously useful.
But in terms of travel, in terms of spending money, it's very hard.
So, could sanctions relief be something as a way, as a carrot perhaps to dangle?
But then, of course, the fact that it's taking place on Elmdorf Air Force Base, we're going to see any of those B-2 bombers flying out there, doing a little elephant walk down the runway.
Are we going to see some military equipment?
No Russian leader has ever set foot in the Alaskan territory, even when it was part of the Russian Empire all those years ago.
So Trump, Putin, Alaska.
And not only that, who are we going to see with the delegation?
Who's going to come from the Russian side?
Who's going to come from the U.S. side?
What are the points of negotiation?
We're going to break it down today on Human Events Daily, right here on Real America's Voice.
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Folks, we've got General Flynn on right now, and I don't want to beat around the bush.
General Flynn, what should people be looking for, and how important are these anchorage accords?
Yeah, thanks, Jack, for having me.
Okay, so, and I'm, I've been putting down a whole bunch of notes here, which I'm going to come out with a little bit later today about what I believe all of us, and I'm a, you know, I'm one of the biggest fans of President Trump and want him to be monumentally successful.
But I want everybody to understand that we need to really meter our expectations of what is possible for these historic talks.
And I actually think that these, as you're calling it, the Anchorage Accords, which is a great name for this, kind of like the Budapest Agreement back in Hungary, after the collapse of the Cold War, this particular meeting is going to be a defining moment,
not just in U.S. relations with Russia and the Russian Federation, but I actually think that this meeting really will define whether or not what is the survival for the world going forward.
And as Trump said to Zelensky at some point in time, a while back, where he said, you don't hold all the cards.
Well, we don't hold all the cards in this.
When you're talking about what cards are held, Russia holds a lot of cards here.
They hold terrain.
They hold places like Crimea, the Donbasses.
I mean, there's going to be a lot of talk about all that.
This is also a losing war.
If anybody is, you know, everybody tells you that Ukraine can win this thing.
I mean, the Ukrainians right now are having to recruit 60-year-olds to join their military, right?
So this is a losing war, and the spoils usually go to the winner.
So Trump is going into a meeting where as he's going to discuss with Putin, he doesn't hold cards where he's in a winning position.
What he is in, what Trump is in, is he's in a winning position with a strong economy and strong leadership.
And I do believe that Putin wants, desires actually desperately, in some cases, I believe, a relationship with the United States of America.
The incremental approach of NATO on the Russian Federation frontier since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, you know, we've been, we frankly have been lying to Russia for the better part of 25 years, or actually longer than that now, almost 35 years.
It's where we said, well, there'll be no Baker was the one that said it, and we agreed to it in Budapest, where we would not have spread NATO into the frontiers of the Russian Federation.
And in fact, we did.
You're showing a very important figure right now, Ronald Reagan.
And one of the things that I would strongly, strongly urge President Trump to do, if he hasn't done it or hasn't gotten the advice from his team, is make sure that your team tells you what are the Russians' interests.
What is it that, you know, I'm assuming that Witkoff went over there and he talked to him and all these smart people, all these analysts.
But if Reagan was, Reagan was hugely successful and he directed his team and they went up to Reykjavik, actually.
He directed his team to make sure that he, Reagan, understood what was at stake for Russia, right?
What was their interest?
What is in their interest?
So he understood that.
The other thing that Reagan did, and I learned this from a person who was on that team just in the last 24 hours.
So a person who actually was on the team that went to Reykjavik with Reagan and Gorbachev, as you're showing it there.
One of the things that Reagan told his team was, do not, you know, basically get out in front of my skis, do not push any buttons unless I say so.
Otherwise, and do not leak, right?
Otherwise, you will be immediately dismissed and sent home kind of thing.
this is a really, it's that important of a meeting.
I want President Trump to be hugely successful, but this is not a time to be beating our chest or patting ourselves on the back.
And if it were me advising President Trump, And I know that he listens to your show, Jack, that I would, because Putin understands English perfectly.
He doesn't like to do it in form sometimes because it's a, you know, it's a matter of, it's sort of a point of pride, if you will.
It's a way he operates.
What I would do, what I would do, Jack, is I would throw everybody out of the room and I would just leave myself.
I would recommend to Trump leave himself with Putin and have a sort of a man-to-man conversation about what is it that we want to achieve?
What are we willing to achieve?
Now, let me, if I have a minute, Jack, to talk about Zelensky, because we're talking about Ukraine and, of course, the president of, you know, I don't know if I have a minute to go through a couple of things on Zelensky.
These are important.
Go right ahead, General.
Okay, so people are going to say, you know, and Europeans are going to go, why isn't Zelensky there?
Zelensky, you know, number one, he declared martial law and he, you know, they ought to really have another presidential election.
And so Zelensky, in a way, has put himself in a position where, you know, you don't know what to believe when it comes to Zelensky.
I can tell you, because I, in another part of my life, we have filed in court almost a $42 billion whistleblower case against that man right there against Ukraine for just severe levels of corruption and money laundering that have gone through Ukraine.
So that's just one among many.
But Zelensky, you know, he jeopardized world peace by having that drone attack.
People have to remember the drone attack that attacked one of the legs of Russia's triad, nuclear triad, which was really dangerous.
And we still don't know whether or not the U.S. was informed about it, but he did that.
That was not a smart move on his part.
This is also the man that on one day will agree to give territory for peace.
And then the next day, you know, he doesn't want to have any trade agreements.
I mean, he flip-flops and has flip-flop a lot.
You know, and I'm just reading off some things here that I wrote down.
This is a man, Zelensky, now, you know, whose key military units in his own government have been using Nazi-like symbols, right, without any kind of apology.
I mean, so, you know, when we talk about that same unit, the Azov Battalion, I'm seeing reports now that they've been forward deployed to these collapsing front lines.
They're sending the Azovs back in because that's how bad some of the Russian breakouts and salients are getting in those eastern Donbass regions.
Right.
The other thing, and this is a very important one, this goes back to Zelensky talking to Vice President J.D. Vance, you know, who basically made demands of the United States of America without ever giving us even a nod of thanks for what the American people have been giving to Ukraine.
So there's a litany of things, Jack.
I think that Trump, again, I'm going to repeat myself here for the sake of your audience and maybe listen, and for Trump too.
I do think that the American people, we need to reduce our expectations of what will come out of this.
Like, you know, is Trump going to push Russia out of Ukraine?
Not a bit.
You know, might there be some discussion about running elections again?
They already did elections in a couple of the eastern Donbasses, you know, and the people there have voted, you know, overwhelmingly to support Russia.
You know, that there's a recent poll in Russia that was done, very good poll that was done.
It shows 80%, 80, 80% of the Russian people want a stronger relationship with the United States of America.
All these people that name call Putin, all these things.
You know, I don't know.
I'm just, what I know is these are the two great powers, nuclear powers on the planet.
And we cannot have the discussions that we've been having and the chest beating by the military-industrial complex neocons.
And this is what actual war.
This is what you say.
President Trump is pulling him in.
He's pulling him in for this.
He's pulling him in for this one-on-one, man-to-man discussion, totally disintermediating, as you say, the transatlantic access, the Atlanticists, the Globalists, the G7, the EU, all the rest of them.
And he's saying, I want to sit man-to-man and look him in the eye.
General Flynn, I know you got to run.
Where can people go to follow you and to get this dispatch when you drop it later?
Yeah, they can follow me at generalflynn.com, generalflynn.com.
One last thing, Jack, that I got to say, because I want people to understand this.
The people in Europe think, oh, Putin's going to attack NATO and he's going to take like the days of the Soviet Union.
Jack, you know that he doesn't have the rear end to do that.
I mean, we're talking about a country with about 140 million people.
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We are back live at Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C. And we're here.
We're going to be on with just a second because there's a new book out from the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, Alex Marlowe.
And it's all about exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald Trump.
And it's called Breaking the Law.
I want to bring him in now.
Alex, how's it going, man?
Jack, it's great to be on your program.
Thanks for having me here.
This is incredible.
I love that you're putting this book out now because it's so perfect.
Because when you turn on the TV, you know, it's Donald Trump is weaponizing the FBI.
Donald Trump is weaponizing the DOJ.
Donald Trump, they keep using the word over and over and over.
And it's like they forgot the last, I mean, you could say the last 10 years, but certainly the last four.
Yeah, absolutely.
The New York Times had a big podcast/slash article that just came out this morning about how the Trump administration is trying to go after Obama.
You guys have got to absolutely be kidding me.
I go through all the law fear against President Trump from even before his post-presidency.
But after January the 6th, the thing went into hyperdrive.
These six cases, the six major cases against Trump, each one is more corrupt than you would imagine.
Each one in coordination from Joe Biden's White House and, of course, the opera echelons of the DOJ.
You've got all these political actors who ran on the promise of busting Trump, busting him for crimes he didn't commit, creating crimes out of whole cloth.
And they got the nerve to act like Trump is doing anything improper.
Trump needs to go after all of them.
They're all part of the cabal.
You know it, Jack, as well as anyone.
Well, and I remember, I remember being there, I think it was March of 23 when the very first indictment with Alvin Bragg.
I always say this is the joke.
You know, they keep saying, they keep trying to say that there's something else, something other that we're going to be able to get to with President Trump.
It's like this guy, I fail to, I struggle.
I struggle when I fail to come up with any significant American figure who has been investigated as many times as Donald Trump.
It's not even close.
This is one of the things that was a pattern of all the cases is novel interpretations of the law.
This is where you've got things.
They're testing legal theories that have never been tried before.
And they do this because maybe they'll work, but even if they don't work, they're going to tie him up.
They're going to distract him.
They're going to bankrupt him.
And they're going to waste a bunch of his time when he's trying to campaign.
And that was really what they had going is that they were thinking we're going to embarrass Trump before a campaign.
We're going to get him branded with things like rapist and convicted felon, both of which were completely bogus.
And then maybe we'll get lucky and he'll end up in jail.
Joe Biden's team specifically thought Trump would be in jail.
But worst case scenario, we're going to make this guy's life a living hell.
We're going to send a signal that no one should follow in his footsteps.
Thus far, it's backfired, but no one's head is rolled yet.
There needs to be widespread investigations.
The Tiss James one has got to be just the beginning.
The Jack Smith one, it's got to be just the beginning.
We need at least a half a dozen, if not more.
And people need perp walks and handcuffs.
Bottom line.
And this is something I talked about this last year.
You're coming in and really nailing it down this year as well with this book.
People say, oh, well, you know, what about the norms?
What about the norms?
Here's what my worry is.
And let me ask you what you think of my analysis here.
My worry is, and I've said this to the white, I've said this to the president, that if we don't act now in terms of trying to rebalance the scales, they're going to do it again.
That's the point.
So the first portion of the book is trying to give people that context for what really happened in each of these six cases, that Trump, as a superhuman figure, was able to navigate, was able to beat many of them.
And the ones he lost, he was able to save face.
They're all on appeal anyway, and win an election from a courthouse instead of being able to be allowed to campaign the way you should.
You learn stuff in the book, like how he's still under gag order from Wanda Marshawn's court.
He still got $175 million in bond up for Letitia James's court with Arthur Engeron.
Crazy stuff that's gone on.
He's still appealing the cruel and unusual $90 million judgment in the completely bogus Eugene Carroll case.
So he has all these distractions that are out there.
And I want people to be able to keep it straight because the investigations are going to come.
And I want you all to be able to enjoy it.
People in your audience, Jack, they should be able to enjoy when these investigations come down and they will.
So I think I help in that regard.
But to your point, the last portion of the book is a warning that these guys are working right now.
They're creating new initiatives to use lawfare.
Project 65, founded by David Brock, the guy who founded Media Matters.
You know what he's doing now?
He's trying to get attorneys who represent Trump and people like you, Jack.
They're trying to get them disbarred.
It's not just, you know, de-banked or de-platformed or stuff that we knew about.
They're trying to get it so you can't even work at all.
It's not that you can't get some kind of great seven-figure white shoe law firm job.
No, that you cannot practice at all, that you apply to trade, you learned to trade, and now you should have that taken away from you simply for trying to give good representation to MAGA people.
That's the warning.
That's what they're doing now.
And they're going to try to rig elections with it too.
Right.
So suddenly, you know, you've got the law fair.
Then you've got a situation where you want to be able to defend yourself against the lawfare.
You can't even find someone to represent you.
And that's why they go after the Jeff Clarks and the John Eastmans and all the rest of it.
And even Giuliani, who had his law license suspended.
And again and again, and it's people, I almost think it's like when you, and when you put this book out, Breaking the Law, let me ask you this way, though.
And we've been through so much.
Are people receptive?
Are they receptive to the idea that this has actually gotten as corrupt as it is?
Yeah, this is something because this is my burden is now I'm in the selling the book mode.
And so there's a certain group of people who think we already won because Trump won.
And that's not true.
We won the battle.
The war is still going on.
And they're going to use lawfare to try to rig future elections, to try to make it so that our cities are more chaotic and more lawless than they already are.
And they're going to use this same playbook against Republicans who are not going to be as strong as Donald Trump was.
And they're not going to be as rich as Donald Trump was.
Donald Trump's wealth was a huge ace up his sleeve here.
But the other group of people that I got to convince is not that we already won is that nothing's going to happen.
There's no investigations.
No one ever gets held to account.
And I want to speak to those people.
And that's why I want to speak to lawmakers as well.
You have got to get accountability here.
Promises made, promises kept is essential to MAGA.
Jack, you and I talked about this on my show at the turning point event a couple weeks ago.
You have to have promises made, promises kept.
And one of the promises that was made to this audience, the Jack Pesobic audience, the Alex Marlowe Breitbart audience, and the Trump voter is that we are going to hold the bad guys accountable.
It's not enough just to write opinions about them.
We now have to go investigate them and then go figure out the actual crimes they committed and hold them to account.
It's got to start right now.
Couldn't be more simple than that.
Alex, tell people the name of the book again and where they can get it.
Sure, breaking the law, wherever you get your books, Amazon's easiest.
But if you don't like Amazon, Books a Million, whatever you like, it's available now.
I perform the e-book.
I'm a Kindle guy.
If you guys like the, I'm sorry, I perform the audio book.
E-book's just as great.
So however you like to get it, I think it's great information and a lot of reporting will be at Breitbart.com on it.
That's awesome.
By the way, did you use any AI for your audio book?
No, of course not.
It's a full performance.
I come from Hollywood.
So if they use it, I did use it.
My last One, my last one, I have one chapter that's an AI, Jack Pesobic, and I've never revealed which one it is.
And even my wife still can't tell.
Pretty crazy.
We'll be right back.
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Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys that be getting published.
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Now we've got the publisher of Human Events, Jeff Webb, joining us here on Human Events Daily.
Once again, Jeff, how are you?
Hey, Jack, good to be with you.
All right.
So we're fresh back off of my Poland trip right there on the border of Ukraine, where certainly Warsaw, Ukraine was a huge topic of discussion during that presidential election, one where the Polish president is now representing the country on,
and he was just on a call this morning with President Trump on sort of the preview as we're on the upswing, just two days away from what we're calling the Anchorage Accords with President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
You've been involved in so many international deals.
You've been around the world working on these organ working around these organizations.
What should people be looking at when you're going in at an executive level with a huge meeting like this?
What should people on the outside be looking for?
Well, you know, I think that traditionally, if you get to a point where you have the two presidents meeting, you know, a deal has usually already been hammered out.
I'm not sure that's the case here.
And I think, though, that, you know, President Trump has expressed his frustration about this war and talked about it not being one that would not have started under his watch.
And I think that it's the two parties have been more intransigent than he figured they would be.
And something has to break the log jam.
And I think they've made some progress behind the scenes, but I think there's really going to be some one-to-one kind of brainstorming here.
And it's just, you can see everybody weighing in now.
The Europeans are weighing in.
The Ukrainians are weighing in about what they want the outcome to be.
I think everybody's afraid that Trump is going to cut some kind of really bad deal with Putin and he's going to be taken advantage of, which I don't think that's going to happen.
But I think it's, it's, there's going to, there's a lot of mystery to this one, I think.
You know, when you go into a meeting like this, there's been a lot of discussion and people are saying, who's President Trump going to bring with him?
When you look at terms of the delegation, you know, I think we could expect obviously his National Security Council, but, you know, so that would be Secretary of State, of course, I'm sure will be there as well as the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.
Wouldn't surprise me, of course, J.D. Vance, the vice president.
But there could be some others, maybe a Besant, Treasury, or Lutnik, you get in.
So obviously, these questions about the sanctions that all run through Treasury and Commerce.
Who do you think, or I put it this way?
When we in the media and we are looking at this from the outside, do you think that all plays a role?
Or is that something that's really just more of a media buzz kind of thing?
No, look, I think we all know that Trump is very big on using trade and industrial resources as bargaining chips or really creating relationships that provide an incentive for another country to get in line, to overcome maybe some geopolitical differences, to take advantage of what that potential trade relationship can be.
And my bet is he's loaded with those things because that's his modus operandi.
And that will be one big arrow in his quit in his quiver.
He'll probably play it pretty quickly.
And it's probably been peaked at by the Russians going into this.
But I tell you, Jack, you know, you and I have had this discussion for a number of years about this situation, how bad it is, and how tough it is, and kind of the historical background of this whole part of the country and these peoples.
And it's really, really complicated.
There is not an easy solution.
And I think that people think that the Russians are going to get up and leave and not get any land and just going to go home because they're going to get an oil deal.
That's not happening.
That's just not their history.
Well, I think that's right.
And even so, Friedrich Murrs, the chancellor of Germany, came out earlier today and said that discussions more than likely would start from the current line of contact.
And this has been a bloody war, an absolutely bloody war to get even to this point.
J.D. Vance, I think, said something similar.
He was on an interview this weekend talking about the current line of contact as opposed to the full territories.
Because one of the differences here for folks who are kind of just coming at this from fresh is that even though Russia has annexed these four provinces, they don't have complete operational control over those four areas.
And so they're currently in, they only have really over one of them, which is Lugansk.
The other one, Donetsk, they've got, you know, maybe 65, 70% of it, but there's still a huge amount of the province that is under Ukrainian control.
So this, I think, is what Murs and what J.D. Vance are talking about.
And so, you know, when it comes down to it, though, Jeff, when you look at the situation on this battlefield right now, the collapses that we've been talking about, you know, when President Trump put out there his deadline saying, hey, you know, 50 days, now it's 12 days.
Okay, now it's 10 days.
Now it's Friday.
Is the speed and the velocity of this really being predicated by the fact that honestly, the Ukrainian army right now, it seems as though the front line is collapsing?
They're definitely on their heels, it seems like, doesn't it?
And so then the question becomes: you know, if they're on their heels, what is that kind of what is that tipping point where, you know, that the Russians begin to really accelerate all of their gains?
And then what's the answer?
You know, then what leverage do the Ukrainians have to bring the Russians to the peace table?
So it's a complicated situation.
There is one person in the world who would have a chance to work it out.
And it won't be without its critics.
But I think it's hard to underestimate President Trump.
He just has such a track record of success.
Maybe this will be the one that he doesn't get, but I wouldn't underestimate him.
No, another word, Ian.
and I think your point on trade is salient.
We were mentioning earlier in the program how if you're in Russia or if you're visiting Russia or just if you're a Russian citizen, you can't use a Visa card right now.
You don't have any access.
So, if you've got money in a bank account that uses Visa MasterCard, you can't have access to that because of the sanctions.
You have to go through this whole crazy, you know, convert to cash in Europe kind of situation.
If you're not traveling, you probably can't even get it out at all.
So, there are some key things, key levers that I think President Trump has on the trade perspective in connection with these sanctions that he could grant relatively quickly.
No, no, I think you're right.
I mean, the sanctions or the sanctions are real.
They hurt.
They can be turned up even more.
They can be turned up on their allies, as we've seen.
When you're looking at what they could potentially do to India and trying to cut off that, you know, those transactions for their oil and gas from Russia.
So, there's still, we wouldn't, the sanctions are tough now.
They can get tougher.
But, you know, the Russians are tough, stubborn people.
And I say that, I don't say that necessarily negatively.
I mean, it served them well.
You and I have talked about what they did during World War II.
You know, the Russians lost 26 million people in World War II.
They lost 9 million soldiers.
And, you know, they have their own paranoia.
And it's just something, you know, when you go into negotiation, you have to also try to think about whether you agree with it or not, whether you think it's rational or not, you have to look at the main concerns of the person on the other side because that's the only way you're going to get to a deal.
So I think it's going to be very interesting to watch.
It is kind of the next step.
And they're clearly willing.
And they're clearly willing to go all the way.
And you mentioned World War II, and some of those battles happened over this very same terrain where these current battles are now being fought.
Jack Posobic, we're on with Jeff Webb, the publisher of Human Events.
We're talking Anchorage Accords, two days away.
Real America's voice, right back.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen.
All right, Jack Pisovic, back live, Human Events Daily.
We're talking the Anchorage Accords.
And folks, the stakes have never been higher, not just for Ukraine and the Ukrainian people, but also for Russia, the United States, and the world.
The stakes could never be higher.
We're on with Jeff Webb, publisher of Human Events.
And our producers wanted to let us know that we were doing a, you know, sometimes we write up the monologues that we do on the show, and then we convert those over to columns and op-eds for the Human Events website.
And it seems that President Trump's White House, the Trump admin, has posted our most recent op-ed right up there on White House Wire, talking not about the Anchorage Accords, but talking about taking back our cities and that President Trump will make cities great again.
So that's great to see.
Jeff, just to get your take on that, you know, sort of obviously that, you know, you saw the op-ed, you know, it's really just all about my thesis has been: we can't abandon the cities.
In 2020, when I said get out of cities, that's a tactical retreat because of what was going on in 2020 and the Soros DAs.
But if you can't surrender the economic engine, the cultural engine of your country over to people like Mamdani and Mamdani Nomics, which is the new term that I've come up for, Mamdani Nomics, is what they're trying to push on New York City, where you allow crime and you're basically stealing from the rich to give to yourself.
Yeah, and what kind of civilization does that Yield you down the road.
What does it look like?
And it's almost like some of these big city mayors would almost rather have this crime-ridden, archaic, kind of medieval sort of environment rather than order and rather than have opportunity, new opportunity for their people, especially those who have the hardest road to hope.
But I think that if you don't, what's the alternative to saving the cities?
The alternative is our great cities that have helped make America great, that have set it apart, that have been an example for the rest of the world, that have attracted capital and industry and manufacturing.
Where does that go?
And that's an asset that's hard to get back.
So I think we've kind of reached that point.
And hopefully, as you were inferring, Washington, D.C. ends up being the kind of experiment that people want to replicate all over the country.
Here's hoping.
Well, I think that's right.
And we saw it with Rudy Giuliani in New York City in the 1990s.
I always say that we saw it with Frank Rizzo as well in Philadelphia, even before Giuliani, the great Frank Rizzo.
And, you know, you see it with Naya Bukele down in El Salvador as well.
And as it turns out, violent crime is actually a policy choice.
So you don't have to live this way.
And yeah, people are going to say, oh, gosh, are you talking about arresting people?
And are you talking about law enforcement having to be out on the streets?
Yes, I am.
Yes, I absolutely am saying that we're going to need law enforcement to be able to actually go in and do their jobs.
Because a lot of these big city police forces and police departments, by the way, going back even to the Obama years, before the Soros DAs got involved, they were all getting sued by the Obama Department of Justice under Eric Holder, and they were forced into these consent decrees where they had to follow all these guidelines,
these woke DEI nonsense, critical race theory guidelines that were set by DC, set by Washington and the federal liberal leadership there, rather than simply go out and be, look, at the end of the day, look, and I'm not going to say, you know, there's never any issues with police officers and law enforcement.
Of course, we know that.
But at the same time, these guys know how to do their jobs.
They know where the bad guys are.
They know who the real troublemakers are.
They all got a list, every one of them.
If you're a street cop, you know, and I've got friends that are cops.
And so it's this idea of saying, let's get back to letting the cops do their jobs.
It's really that simple.
And just their presence is a deterrent.
That's proven.
You know, they're there.
There's more of them.
There's less crime.
And again, here's hoping that we've gotten to that point where everybody can look up and go, you know, this is not worth it.
The problem we have, of course, you've got so many of these Democrat politicians that are running these cities that hate Donald Trump more than they love their own citizens, more than they want to protect their own citizens.
So they're going to be opposed to it.
But, you know, again, I think it's like we saw in the last election.
I think Trump, when he does the right thing and it benefits all these people, he's able to win them over.
And this will be a great test.
And this is what it's all about.
It's all about getting back.
And so we're talking about the Anchorage Accords as well, that it's all about getting us back on the right track.
That's trade.
That's money.
That's commerce.
That's business.
We don't want to have to be, yeah, there's bad elements.
There's bad elements that unfortunately turn out to war.
There's bad elements that turn out to crime.
And those things need to be dealt with.
But they ought to be dealt with quickly so that we can get back to what we actually want to do.
Isn't that what it's all about?
We want to focus on our energy on those things.
We want to focus our resources on things that might make life better for everybody.
And war and crime don't do that.
No, they don't.
Jeff, when we're looking at these Anchorage Accords, and do you see a possibility or a path forward?
Maybe, obviously not on Friday, but do you see this with, you know, it's being, by the way, billed as reports that President Trump may even make the next meeting, that if this goes well, there'll be a second meeting, possibly takes place in Moscow or at least on the territory of Russia.
I don't know.
I don't know if he's going over to the Eastern Siberia side of or the Eastern Siberia side of Russia.
We'll see.
Maybe Vladivostok.
But we've never really seen this exchange of leaders like this between the U.S. and Russia, or at least certainly not for quite some time, since World War II, basically.
You're exactly right.
And look, these two men have a history.
I think, who knows if they like each other, but I think they respect each other.
And look, I think Trump is used to bargaining with tough people.
He's done it his whole life.
I think we have a lot to offer.
I think the Russians, you've got to think that they wouldn't mind finding a way out.
I think if they do, there's going to have to be something.
I think it's more than just the land, Jack.
I do, going back to what we were talking about earlier, I do think it's this kind of Russian paranoia.
Some would say for good reason.
They certainly have historical context, but there's going to have to be some level of security for Russia.
They don't trust NATO.
I mean, again, they go back.
They lost millions of people at the hands of some of the countries who were in NATO.
They're going to have to have some feeling of buffer, some feeling of security for there to be a peace that really lasts.
That's going to be hard to do.
Well, no, and I've pitched, I'll throw it out there again, but I've pitched, hey, President Trump, one way to get past this.
And Sergei Lavrov has spoken about this as well.
They say, look, you know, we make a deal with one president, but then there's another president in four years and there's another Congress in two years.
So who are we even supposed to negotiate with?
One way possibly out of that two-year, four-year trap, the United Nations.
Go to the United Nations and get a Security Council resolution, get the Chinese on board, find something.
If there's anyone, if there's anyone who can make a grand deal like that for world peace, I think it would be President Donald Trump.
And I'm telling you, that would be something that you would need a Nobel Peace Fries for.
How do you possibly deny it at that point?
He's dotted every I and crossed every T, right?
There's no question.
Jeff, tell people where they can go to follow you, where to go and get the stuff that you are putting out and about your book.
Yeah, you know, Jeff at Human Events.
And then we got, but thank you for the book, Jack.
American Restoration.
It's about how to unshackle the great middle class.
It's a couple of years old.
It's been interesting to see a lot of the things that I talked about have really been adopted or come into fruition under President Trump.
Not that he got the ideas for me, but it's called American Restoration.
You can find it on Amazon.
Hey, the seeds are planted where they're planted, right?
I'll take it.
Jeff Webb, thanks so much for joining us again, Human Events.
We'll have to get you on again after the Alaska Accords, which are going to be coming up this Friday.
