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PRESIDENT TRUMP SHIFTS FOCUS TO THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL

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Time is running short for Capitol Hill Republicans hoping to pass the president's massive tax and spending plan by his self-imposed deadline.
Republicans don't need a single Democratic vote if they can keep their side of the aisle united.
I have developed a proposal for the Department of Community Safety that would include an 800% increase in funding for hate crime prevention programs.
Because ultimately, we cannot simply say that anti-Semitism has no home in this city or no place in this country.
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Amid rising tensions with Iran, the Justice Department and FBI say they are now shifting personnel to prioritize counterterrorism cases.
After President Trump's return to the White House in January, the Justice Department directed its personnel to focus on immigration and the border.
But now they are moving back to counterterrorism and potential threats from Iran and its allies.
This morning, the Iran ceasefire appears to still be holding.
We're going to talk to them next week with Iran.
We may sign an agreement.
I don't know.
To me, I don't think it's that necessary.
I mean, they had a war, they fought, now they're going back to their world.
I don't care if I have an agreement or not.
They took bits and pieces from a leaked top-secret intelligence report.
And by the way, I understand the FBI is investigating who was the source of that leak because it's an illegal leak to CNN.
And this is the same fake news CNN reporter who wrote the story alleging that the Hunter-Biden laptop was Russian disinformation, which we know is one of the greatest political hoaxes this country and the American public have ever seen.
What kind of consequence could the leaker face?
They should go to jail.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Human Events Daily.
Here we are, Washington, D.C., a sweltering hot Washington, D.C. today in the capital of the Republic.
It is currently an imperial capital, but we are currently trying to transform it back to a small R Republican capital.
Huge news, of course, out of the White House earlier today as well over at the Pentagon.
Secretary of Defense Heg Seth was conducting this battle damage assessment.
He says that they're confident that they completed the objective, raising Caroline Levitt coming out at a press conference, which finished a few moments ago, saying that the United States is now pursuing a diplomatic path for Iran.
So it's the carrot and the stick, right?
The stick being these B-2 bunker-busting bombs, the penetrators, and the carrot now being opening up the diplomatic path.
And it's been reported that the White House has taken off the sanctions on Iran that prevented them from being able to sell oil to the Chinese Communist Party.
Riding side saddle with us today because he's in studio in Washington is Human Events Opinion Editor Kennedy Cody.
What's up, Kenny?
Hey, Jack.
How are you, Better?
I'm glad to be in D.C. Glad to be on with you and glad to be our nation's capital.
It's incredible.
You've been working in the White House.
You've been working in the Senate.
You've been working to Hill.
You're everywhere, man.
And pushing the America First Agenda, brother, meeting with the right people and ensuring that President Trump's agenda gets through and we got peace through, strength of foreign policy.
It's been a good week and a good couple days.
Well, I think it's great.
Now, Kenny, do you think Do you think we're going to get that bill signed by the end of the show here today?
I don't know if it's going to be the show, but I know most goals are by July 4th, which would be a very patriotic day to announce the Big Beautiful Bill has passed.
But I think he's going to put a lot of pressure on the Senate parliamentarian, current senators that are upholding the bill, and hopefully people like Senator Tuberville and others keep on pushing that agenda to bypass that Senate parliamentarian that keeps upholding a lot of the things the Big Beautiful Bill is trying to do.
Well, if they keep trying to pass the heat to the Senate parliamentarians, oh, it's his fault.
We didn't elect a Senate parliamentarian, okay?
We elected a Republican Senate to put forward the America First agenda of the MAGA movement and to get it done.
So I see people, a lot of these Republicans up there, they don't want to put the heat where it really belongs.
We're coming up on our first break.
We're going to come right back.
We're going to have former Congressman Matt Gates, host of the Matt Gates Show, joining us here very shortly when we come back.
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Want to bring in here former Congressman Matt Gates to the program.
Matt, how are you?
Well, it's good to be with you, Jack.
Thanks for having me on.
All right, so we've won the 12-day war.
We've also won the war against regime change.
And now the war is about the big, beautiful bill.
Where do we stand?
Well, we got very unfortunate news today that there are certain wins for the America First Movement that were hard fought by the Trump administration and the House to get into this legislation that will not be considered by the full Senate if they get to the bill because of something called the Byrd Rule.
So I'm going to take you into the weeds here, but in order for legislation to only need the 50 votes of 50 Republicans plus the vice president, the Byrd Rule says that it is only fiscal policy matters that can be considered.
You can't go outside of something that deals with the budget.
That is the sandbox you get to play in.
And so within that, the House of Representatives thought, well, one of the big drivers of costs in this country is health care that we're giving to illegal immigrants through the Medicaid program.
And so if we put a limitation on that in the bill, it fits within the sandbox and is good policy, delivers on a promise we made to people.
We got word today that that is being taken out of the legislation by the Senate parliamentarian.
Secondarily, there was legislation to stop federal funding for these mutilations on children in the name of like sex change surgeries.
And that also has been taken out of the bill, the prohibition against that removed by the Senate parliamentarian.
And know this.
The game you're watching is not the game that's being played.
This is a fiction.
This is a construct.
There are certain senators who are beholden to the hospital industrial complex, and they want to see those federal dollars still move to the hospitals where the executives make donations to their campaign that maybe are very woven into the political establishment.
And they don't want the blame for that.
And so they've set up this system where the Senate parliamentarian takes the blame.
And no one voted against her.
We did not go walk the streets in Pennsylvania.
We did not go beat out every vote with turning point in Arizona.
We didn't do all the work to get Georgia back on the right track with election integrity just so that the Senate parliamentarian, some lady nobody voted for against, can tell us that we still have to pay for sex change operations for children and health care for illegal aliens.
This has to be called out.
Senate Leader John Thune has a responsibility to get these provisions in the bill or fire the Senate parliamentarian.
Wow.
We've got, I want to get Kenny Cody in here.
Kenny, you've written about the MAGA agenda, the America First Agenda.
Walk us through how important all of these line items that Matt Gates here is talking about.
Well, I mean, one of the most important things that Carson Gates just talked about is this parliamentarian has been there for a long time, and she was appointed by a Democrat.
When Harry Lee was the Senate majority leader, she was appointed, and she's now trying to stop the America First Agenda.
Everything that Trump campaigned on during the 2024 presidential election was to wrap all of his main agenda points up, at least get funding for them and get support through them through senators through one big, beautiful bill.
This has been known for months.
It's been known basically a year in advance.
And now for a government bureaucrat that was appointed in 2012 under a Democratic majority leader now to all of a sudden be stopping the GOP agenda, the GOP caucus, and President Trump himself from getting the exact policy points that he wanted in one bill all wrapped up to vote on is ridiculous.
And we should never be overran by a government bureaucrat that has nothing to do with the GOP caucus.
I think she's related to several Democratic operatives.
She has connections to Democratic operatives.
She is a Democratic operative herself, being a bureaucrat appointed by a Democrat.
And all these things need to be countered on with deportations, with illegal immigrations, with fair trade deals.
All these things that are going to be included in this piece of legislation, we have to ensure that a government bureaucrat that has nothing to do with the GOP caucus, nothing to do with Republicans or conservatives, is not the sole person to block this bill.
And Senator Leader John Thune needs to step up and needs to ask her to resign, which has already been called on by people like Tommy Tuberville and Ted Budd.
And more Republican senators need to step up and ensure that she is not the blockade that prevents this legislation from passing.
I love this.
The Senate parliamentarian needs to go fire her today.
Matt, you and I were chatting a little bit during the break, though, but we were looking at these election results out of New York.
And we could say all that we want about the impact of mass immigration and the direct line that we could see towards the new, you know, quote unquote Democrat coalition.
But what's interesting, though, is that the policies and the rhetoric are totally divorced from the wokeness that you would see in 2020, which is why it's funny going up to this Zoran's like 2020 tweets and finding a bunch of stuff that he hasn't talked about.
What did he focus on now?
Are the Democrats reading the room and actually moving back to the center on populism?
Well, Zoran has game.
There's no question about that.
We could get into the tactics of it.
But what did people think were going to happen?
Like, Andrew Cuomo was the great white knight of the Democratic Party in New York.
They hunt straight white men in the Democratic Party like for sport.
Like go ask Elliot Engle.
Go ask Joe Crowley.
Chuck Schumer's probably on deck if AOC challenges him.
Like a very straight white guy in the Democratic Party in New York.
Like it's not going to end well for you and it hasn't been ending well for you in quite some time.
And so here you get this very charismatic, talented politician.
I think that this guy doing a walk of all of Manhattan was something that showed youth, showed vigor.
But also the social media game, if you go and look at this guy's ads, he's actually drawing a leftist audience into policy prescriptions like deregulation to lower Cost.
And there is this infection on the political left right now where everything has to be about Trump.
You know, what can we do to challenge Trump or defeat Trump or arrest Trump or mire his legacy and something?
And that just isn't a winning message for people who are worried about their streets being overrun, their physical safety, their economic well-being.
And so Zoron went out there and said, I can make street food less expensive with deregulation.
I can have a generational argument to be made about the future of New York, which has a lot of young voters that participate in municipal elections.
And so I think this guy is heads-on the favorite.
He will likely go on to what most people who win the Democratic primary in New York go on to, and that is the mayoralship.
But if there is any opportunity here, it is in like a triple down on the coalition between MAGA and black voters.
And let's just ride with Eric Adams.
My colleague, your friend Vish Burra, made the argument on my program last night that Curtis Lewis should drop out of the race in New York.
Trump should endorse Adams.
And I mean, let's go ride with the brothers.
Let's go take New York back, stop the sanctuary policies, and see if that's something new and different.
And certainly not out of line with President Trump's thinking and his prior defenses of Adams.
I'm hearing this more and more.
My phone was blowing up all night last night about this idea.
I saw Vish put it out as well.
Would Curtis Liwa, right, who's he's probably got 250,000 to 300,000 votes, be willing to run on a fusion ticket so he drops out and then roll with the brothers, go on with Eric Adams and actually find a way for MAGA to take back New York writ large.
It could be done.
I really do think that it could be done.
Guys, we're taking a quick break.
We'll be right back here.
We're covering the entire waterfront today.
We went from Iran to the internal politics of New York City in just a couple of minutes.
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We are back live, Human Events Daily.
We're talking about the Big Beautiful Bill, talking about how important it is for the entire Republican Party to understand that the MAGA coalition.
So the coalition that got on board with President Trump in 2024, maybe there's a better way of talking about this, you know, because people have to understand that there's MAGA, but there's other elements of it.
There's tech, there's Maha, there's populists, there's workers, there's all of these various things.
So it's beyond just quote unquote, your core Trump supporters.
We're on with Matt Gates as well as Kenny Cody from Human Events.
Matt, do you understand what I'm talking about when I say that?
There's the MAGA coalition, but it's bigger than just MAGA.
Do you get what I'm trying to say?
Well, sure.
For a political movement to be successful, you have to embrace addition, not subtraction and division.
And frankly, it came into sharp relief in this discussion we had over the 12-day war, where people like you and I were encouraging foreign policy realism, encouraging a humble reflection on our recent history of regime change wars in the Middle East.
I think that's true to President Trump's goal and certainly the outcome here.
But then you had the regime change folks like Mark Levin who are out there saying that anything short of toppling foreign governments was somehow a betrayal of MAGA.
And there is like the core heartbeat of the America First Movement, the people who've been with President Trump and worked to see that his vision has come to fruition.
But then you do have these other components of the coalition.
And look, there are things in this bill that I think tease out some of the differences.
Take, for example, the moratorium on AI.
A lot of the tech bros want to see that moratorium in place because they don't want to live in a world where they've got a server somewhere in Louisiana and are unaware of some state novel restriction or regulation that could impair their global or multi-state activities.
But then you've got people like Marjorie Taylor Greene who say, look, I am worried that AI could be a job eater in my state.
If my state legislature wants to ask these questions and approach these policy challenges, I want them to have the freedom to do so under our federalist system.
So even that question is like dividing some of the core of America first from some of our new arrivals.
Well, and by the way, when you mentioned Mark Levin, he attempted to do this at one point.
He called this into question.
He said, this is real MAGA.
So he gets to define what real MAGA is.
He's the argument, which, you know, which is funny because this is a guy who didn't support Trump in 2016 or in 2024 in the primary and gave a speech at CPAC saying that he wouldn't support Trump in the general.
But it spikes the broader conversation of what is real MAGA.
And I think that, you know, look, I mean, there's no more credibility that I think this guy can lose that he hasn't already lost in this debate.
But when it really, the broader question, I think for all of us is there's a lot of people, and Matt, I'm sure you saw this when you were in town.
There's a lot of people in DC who thinks that being MAGA means doing normal Republican stuff with, but just with like a little bit more swagger or something like that.
And that's not what it is, is it?
No, President Trump led a fundamental realignment of politics on the right.
We had been told by people like Paul Ryan that we could invade everywhere and invite everyone.
We were told that the trade deals would be okay if they hurt our middle class so long as they built up the middle kingdom.
And President Trump on immigration, on trade, and on foreign policy did not just offer the Republican Party a few corollaries.
He fundamentally realigned our movement for the better.
And by the way, if he hadn't done that, we would still be losing, right?
If we were still running some version of Mitt Romney, that would not have been sufficiently attractive to enough working class people to deliver victories.
So, for those who want to shake the Bush family tree again and see what falls out, I would ask: what about winning is so off-putting to you?
And don't you realize that the country club version of Republicanism that sold out, the people here, will not survive in a world where information is more democratized and people can educate themselves on the issues?
And so it is funny when people think that they're the digital hall monitors of what constitutes real MAGA.
But the foreign policy issue is critical also in this respect, Jack.
If you look at the people who betrayed Trump over the years, it's always the neocons, right?
You can almost lay a foreign policy paradigm over the likes of the Jim Mattis, the Rex Tillersons, the John Boltons, the John Kelly's.
They're all the neocons who kind of slipped into the movement.
And if those folks are looked at with, I think, a good deal more skepticism, Trump probably has a more durable path to the greatest legacy ever.
I think that's exactly right.
Kenny Cody, we've got a couple more minutes, but Kenny, walk us through that core promise of populist nationalism and how it's totally different from neoconservatism or conservatarianism that was peddled by the likes of Bush, Romney, McCain, and Ryan.
Well, I think that the traditional neocon-establishment Republican hates the idea of going out and talking to everyday people, middle-class people, about the issues that mean the most to them.
I've always described in articles and when I talk to people about the Republican movement, it is not about necessarily, populism isn't an ideology.
It's a tool.
It's listening to the middle class.
It's listening to the issues that are the most important to people, such as fair trade deals, such as mass deportations, illegal immigration, and an over-influx of mass migration into the country.
And I think that's why we've had such a success.
These established Republicans do not understand that this is not the Bush-Air republicanism of the past.
That hasn't won since 2004.
That's not going to win in the future.
And we have to be able to expand our horizons.
This old idea of republicanism that we're going to put the corporations on the forefront, that we're going to put the lobbying and consulting forms and their priorities on the forefront when we pass policies, and allowing them to dictate leadership positions, allowing them to decide congressional primaries, senatorial primaries, local primaries, or what have you, are done and over with.
The modern American voter is the most important vote within the GOP, is the most important vote in the MAGA movement.
And the MAGA movement has expanded, like you said, to Maha, like you said, to anti-interventionist foreign policy.
And if we're able to prioritize that, like we have the last 10 years since Donald Trump came off the escalator in New York City, that's what's going to happen.
What is all the millions?
That's what it's all about.
We got about one minute left till the break.
Matt Gates, got to come on more often, brother.
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Folks, stick here.
We'll be back.
Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.
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What a job you do.
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Jack with Sopa Kiri R back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C. We got the great Kenny Cody in studio.
He's in there moving and shaking and messing stuff up.
He's the one who's got meetings today.
This is the life for me, folks.
Kenny Cody's the one who has to wear the monkey suit and go and have all the meetings.
And he's at the White House.
He's at the Capitol.
I just get to kick back here in studio.
I love it, man.
I'm glad you like it.
I love the trip to this trip.
The human event has been pushing the America First agenda.
It's been just a great trip to Washington.
I miss my hills of eastern Tennessee, but I'm still enjoying being on.
Well, Kenny, let me ask you this because this, you know, obviously this is a huge, you know, a huge news cycle that you find.
You had this trip, and I know that you had planned it out, you know, far in advance.
And obviously, you didn't know that we'd have this 12-day war and the bill coinciding for exactly when you came, but maybe it would, hey, maybe it's in God's time.
But this view and the fact that you're coming in as someone who is a Gen Z conservative.
And I think that we've had Avita Duffy on here recently and she's saying, look, these issues for Gen Z are not fringe.
They're not off to the side.
They're front and center.
And in fact, there was a huge Gen Z swing in the New York City mayoral race for these populist policies.
And I don't want to dismiss that.
And people want to do this whole like, oh, well, he's a Muslim and Shia law.
I don't think that's what he ran on, though.
This guy ran on Gen Z policies.
And I think it's something where, and call me crazy, but Gen Z, they don't want the, oh, we're going to go to war abroad talk.
They want more of the, we're going to make life better at home, at the home front kind of level.
So give me, or give us audience-wise, an understanding of where Gen Z stands on this question and these very serious questions in terms of their priority Matrix when it comes to government?
I mean, yeah, I think Mamdani, I mean, regardless of what you think about him, I mean, he's a communist, he's a socialist.
I think all those things are true.
But again, populism is a tool.
It is not an ideology that pigeonholes anybody into a corner.
It is an idea that he goes out, the populace goes out and meets with his people, meets with Gen Z specifically because he is a part or at least closely related to that population and that age demographic.
You know, he's going out and saying, I want to lower the food costs on like Indian food cards.
Like, I forget what the exact dish that he posted about was, but he was literally trying to learn one food dish that's a street product from $10 to $8.
He's talking about, you know, taking over grocery stores and making items cheaper for the New York City public.
He's talking about, you know, lowering rent.
He's talking about things that mean something to people, groceries, food, housing.
These things do land.
Now, you have all of these, you know, the LGBTQ stuff.
You have the race pandering, all those things that conservatives like me and the traditional American do not agree with and do not want to hear about.
But he is using that populist mantra to communicate with Gen Z in a way probably no other New York City mayoral candidate has before.
And that's why he beat Cuomo.
Regardless of betting markets, regardless of the presumption that a former governor was going to win a mayor's race, he dominated that conversation.
And he did make it about himself.
I mean, he was known about two months ago as this radical Islamic populist.
And people kind of brushed him off.
But I mean, in the last weeks of the campaign, he really concentrated that populist message.
And, you know, populism doesn't necessarily mean that we need to cave on principles.
Populism doesn't mean that we can't hold those traditional conservative values.
But it does mean that things like MAGA and other political movements can utilize the populist movement into knowing what the middle class and low propensity voters care about to have that turnout, to turn out Gen Z as they did in that election.
And it was the difference in New York City.
And Gen Z was the difference in President Trump's election in 2024 because of being things like anti-war, proto-middle class, pro-working class.
It's one of the reasons why that coalition was catered to and gotten by Donald Trump in 2024.
So populism needs to be utilized by conservatives nationally, needs to be used by conservatives globally.
And if we're able to keep on facilitating that over the next 10 years, MAGA can really capitalize on Gen Z and the future generations by solely just using those populist mantras.
And so Kenny, this is what we're talking about here.
And I think this is absolutely central, not just to the MAGA message, but even to the debate on the big, beautiful bill, because they say, oh, we're just getting rid of this policy item, this line item, that line item.
Now, they haven't touched the no tax items, which I think are massive, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.
But it sounds like what you're saying is that Gen Z as a cohort, which by the way, votes at a very higher clip than we've seen the youth vote in the past.
So the current, I think it's 18 to 29 right now, votes much higher.
60% of them broke from Zorin in this one.
But you also saw a lot of Gen Z going for Trump, particularly Gen Z males.
And I think a lot of this has more to do.
So it certainly does a backlash to wokeness.
But what comes after that?
Okay, we're anti-awoke, but what do we want?
We want that right now money, right?
Congress is up there dragging its feet.
And so they're going to say, I want something that's going to help me right now, right here, right now, not 5,000 miles away, 6,000 miles away, right now, right here.
Because look, you know, the Trump stuff, you know, they'll talk about this, but you know what?
We want something that's food, that's rent.
You're talking about things that affect people on a regular basis and a daily basis.
And Kenny, you and I could sit here and talk about, you know, Milton Friedman to we're blue in the face and bring up all the great work of Thomas Sowell and so many others about, you know, rent control and poverty and, you know, grocery stores and how all this leads to the situation.
But we're talking about electoral politics.
And when it comes to Gen Z specifically, this rhetoric and these policies are extremely popular.
And I think that's something that I'm just going to say, I think that's something that a lot of Republicans in D.C. haven't quite updated themselves on yet.
100%.
I mean, Congressman Gates said it earlier.
Do you not want to win?
And these issues win.
These strategies win.
And if we can absolutely make a coalition of populists and nationalists that are proud of their country, but want their children taken care of.
That's why you saw a backlash to the LGBTQ movement.
They're seeing their children be indoctrinated by these social abnormalities, by nonprofits that are pushing this, by social media stars that are pushing the transgender movement.
The reason that you're seeing people go away from that is because of populism.
It has become popular to go against this evil Marxist ideology in the same way it's been popular for no taxes on tips.
And, you know, it's not really that complimentary for the Senate to keep that in because it literally got a hundred to zero, one of the first 100 to zero votes that I've ever seen in nearly a quarter of a century on one bill that they actually passed and approved tax on tips or no tax on tips, right?
Because it is a popular populist mantra.
But they're leaving out the things that they think can be skewed, things like immigration, you know, and things like Matt Gates talking about with AI.
There are a lot of issues that may be 50-50, maybe 60-40, but the GOP is responsible for delivering on President Trump's agenda.
These senators that were up for reelection in 2024 literally went to their states and said, we are going to pass one big, beautiful bill.
We're not going to pass, you know, three or four bills in a span of three or four years.
We're going to pass one big, beautiful bill on the issues that you all voted President Trump and me as a senator in to vote for and in to put into the agenda.
Now they're dragging their feet.
Now they're looking for excuses to take specific representatives out to take specific issues out of one bill.
And that's not what Gen Z voted for.
That's not what the MAGA movement voted for.
This is not what even independents voted for.
They are for a transparent legislative policy that is going to cover the basis that President Trump campaigned on and these senators and congressmen and even local leaders campaigned on.
And we need to deliver on that.
And again, we shouldn't let a government bureaucrat that's been there since 2012 for 13 years just override elected officials and most importantly, the man who got to president of the United States in November.
You know, and I think what you're walking through here is: so, you've got populism is the name of the day.
Populism is the name of the day.
And President Trump won because of populism.
But then along comes Zaran Mandami.
And what does he do?
He brings up the populist left.
So there's two versions of populism, one of which is the populist left, one of which is the populist right.
The populist right is MAGA.
The populist left is this.
You get this sort of infusion of the popular policies, but then he goes a step further and says, and we're going to strip all the money from the landlords, and we're going to go after all of the people who are successful, and we're going to give you all sorts of free stuff like crazy.
And this shows, I think, Kenny, the danger of not following through on the MAGA populist agenda when it comes to economics, because these guys are going to come up now and start offering free stuff all over the place.
And they do not care what they burn down and how many billionaires and millionaires move out of New York City and take jobs with them because that's what they're all about.
This type of rhetoric becomes very, very popular when you are in situations where that, you know, the haves versus the have-nots, the lower class feel like they're being completely unheard and completely unregarded.
And I think a lot of Gen Z feels that way.
100%.
And, you know, one thing like the biggest tweet that I've seen on Twitter involving Mamdani is that queer liberation is defunding the police.
Like a statement that makes absolutely no sense in general, right?
There's no dictionary definition as to what that actually means.
But it's key words, right?
Like you're placating to the far left by including those two phrases, queer liberation and defunding the police.
For some reason, those two phrases coincide with a lot of those far left Gen Z Democrats or progressives.
And if they hear that, they're like, Andrew Cuomo isn't saying that, Eric Adams isn't saying that, no other candidate's saying that, but I'm hearing Mam Donnie say it, and I'm going to relate to that.
Now, populism can be simplistic.
It can be a way to start a conversation on one topic and lead into the enclaves of policy and others.
But, you know, Mam Donnie did a pretty good job about recruiting those kinds.
And that's why populism could also be Jane dangerous for the left.
And if MAGA doesn't use it, it could be dangerous for us too, because this is now the name of the game.
We are no longer the country club Republicans of the past.
We are not country club conservatives or neoconservatives.
We are now a populist nationalist movement.
And that's what these current senators that are not pushing the Big Beautiful Bill need to learn from.
You need to learn that the modern voter of today is not for the country club small town fundraisers that you can go and talk to your biggest donors about what you're going to vote for.
They want to see action now on the issues that they voted Trump and Moggie in to do all wrapped up in one beautiful bill.
And they need to be able to capitalize on those populist sentiments and make their public party a nationalist populist party like it's been the last 10 years and keep it that way for future generations.
Absolutely.
All right, folks.
We've got a break coming up.
We've also got a very special guest who's going to be joining myself and Kenny Cody here on Human Events.
First time, I believe, that we've had him on, although we've covered him in the past.
So we're going to have Head Secretary Scott Turner joining us in just a few moments, right after the break.
We're going to try to deliver you guys a shorter break so that we can get him on for as long as possible.
He's giving us some of that precious time.
But that's what we do here on Human Events Daily.
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He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
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you All right, Jack Sobik, we are back live here, Human Events Daily.
We're very excited for a debut guest, although we've covered him in the past at various rallies and events, but never in this capacity, folks.
We've got HUD Secretary Scott Turner now joining us to tell us all about his new policy on millennial housing and some updates.
Apparently, Moving Day is coming up for HUD.
Secretary Turner, thank you so much for joining us here.
Well, thank you, Jack.
It's always good to be with you.
Thank you for having me on your show.
You know, in our country right now, we have a housing affordability issue.
And at HUD, we've been working very hard to bring down regulations as it pertains to housing.
You know, a lot of people in our country, in particularly millennials, are asking, and I have one, a 24-year-old son, is saying, man, how am I going to afford a house in America today?
And so myself and our team under the president's leadership, we've been taking down burdensome regulations, not only from the federal standpoint, but also encouraging localities to take inventory of their regulations.
What's causing developers and builders not to be able to build affordable workforce housing in our country?
Right now, we need about 7 million units of housing of all types, multifamily, single-family, manufactured housing, duplex, condo.
And so we've been working to take down regulations like the affirmatively further and fair housing rule, which would restore flexibility back to the localities.
And so when millennials and others are asking how we're going to afford at HUD, we are hard at work to make sure that housing affordability comes down, the supply goes up, the cost comes down.
And also opportunity zones.
You know, the initiative that we had in the first Trump administration that was so transformative when it comes to building housing, about 1 million people in opportunity zones have been lifted out of poverty.
Over 300,000 units of housing have been built in opportunity zones with $90 billion of investment.
And so I'm excited about the continuation and expansion of opportunity zones because this will help us to build more housing, more affordable, workforce, attainable housing in our country, not only for millennials, but for the people of America to accomplish and reach the American dream of home ownership.
Well, and this is so important, by the way, not just for the president's agenda and what he ran on, but also for so many people that are out there because we've seen, Secretary, these numbers, when we look at birth rates in the United States and we look at family formation, home ownership, it's so low.
It's coming in under where it should be for so many Americans.
And this really cuts across all demographics, right?
It's affecting everybody, class, demographic, doesn't matter.
It's really hitting everybody.
So is this policy that you're now instituting, does this, in your view, is this something that will help increase that?
Yes, and you're exactly right on the statistics that you gave.
You know, home ownership is down.
The cost of housing is up.
But one encouraging fact that I have for you, Jack, is since we have come in, since January 20th when the president took office, 140,000 new homebuyers have utilized our FHA insurance mortgage-backed loans.
And so 140,000 first-time homebuyers, you know, since January is very encouraging.
We're off to a good start.
There's much work to be done.
But I want to encourage the people of America, you know, when you think about HUD, oftentimes you don't think about how we have the FHA program here to help those first-time homebuyers who may not be able to afford to put down the institutional 20% down pavement.
And so HUD is working very hard to not only identify, but to work with first-time homebuyers, to work with our veterans, and to work with those who may have a low to moderate income.
And so FHA is a tremendous program, and that's a great encouragement for us here at HUD and for our country.
And we'll continue to work hard to bring down regulations, to bring the supply up and work with public-private partnerships so that more Americans, no matter their age, can achieve the American dream of home ownership.
Well, Secretary Turner, there's no question that home ownership and ownership of assets in general is the key to unlocking the pathway to generational wealth.
And the sooner that anyone is on that pathway, the sooner that they'll be able to get to the American dream.
And I think this is absolutely something that President Trump campaigned on.
And I find it very encouraging that you're making it so central to the agenda.
One of the other pieces, and we've only got about a minute here in the show, that President Trump campaigned on was reduce, draining the swamp.
And I hear that housing and urban development is actually moving out of DC proper.
Yeah, Jack, so it's great news here.
HUD will have a new home in Alexandria, Virginia.
And this will save the American taxpayer hundreds of millions of dollars in the next several years.
And the first thing we are here was stewardship.
And so we have to steward well over taxpayer dollars.
Also, it'll be a healthy place, a safe place for our HUD employees to work.
The morale and the culture will change definitely here at HUD.
And so we're very excited as we represent housing in our country as under the president's leadership to be great stewards over taxpayer dollars.
The HUD home that we have now will be no more.
And moving to Alexandria also will be a great culture and paradigm shift, getting out of Washington, D.C. and serving the people of America at HUD.
Well, there's no question about that.
Secretary Turner, where can people go to follow everything and all the good work that you're putting out?
HUD.gov.
We'll have it also.
If anybody has any ideas or questions, please reach out to us.
We have an open line of communication to help and serve the American people.
Got to love it.
The open door policy.
Thank you so much there, Mr. Secretary.
Kenny Cody, shout out real quick, 10 seconds.
Where can people go follow you?
They can follow me at KDCOTEN on True Social and on X, and all my articles are all coded at humanevents.com.
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