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Exclusive Interview w/ Georgia's Minister of Foreign Affairs and The Prayer Protest Hijacked by Antifa

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And do you still believe that Putin I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know in about two weeks, within two weeks, we're going to find out very soon.
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And if he is, we'll respond a little bit differently.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
We are here live from Budapest, Hungary.
Today is May 29th, 2025.
And even though we are here in Hungary, just wrapped a pre-recorded interview session with Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
That is going to be edited and released in just a few days here in Hungary.
I'm going to turn everyone's attention to a story that's going on back in the United States, back in Seattle, where a great colleague of mine, Katie Davis Court, has been covering this a ton.
And I'd love to be able to get her on.
It's just the connection issues with being in Hungary are what it is.
But this situation regarding the Christian rally over in Seattle that was attacked by Antifa, violently attacked.
We've violently had these people going after them and the same way that we've seen for years in Seattle.
This story is completely insane.
And now the mayor, Bruce Carroll, obviously this guy should resign.
There's no question about it.
He has claimed that it was the Christians who were the ones behind the attack, not the communists, not Antifa.
And so we've seen this happen again and again.
We all remember this has the shades of Chaz.
All over it.
That's exactly, in many ways, how the conditions began that led to the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
And believe it or not, this took place at Cal Anderson Park.
Why is Cal Anderson Park significant?
Well, for those who remember, five years ago when my brother and I infiltrated Chaz, that's exactly where it was.
In fact, the very site of Cal Anderson Park is where this happened.
And so this mayor, complete scumbag, complete nut job.
He needs to resign.
And not only that, I would absolutely call on the FBI to open up an investigation on him, an immediate investigation on him, because this is ridiculous.
It's a joke that this is going on in the United States.
This would be allowed to happen.
How can a mayor sit by and allow a criminal domestic terrorist organization like Antifa to operate with impunity on American soil?
And if that's the case, Why would we then not be everyone who's involved with this thing?
From the Antifa all the way down.
And by the way, if this is a domestic terrorism case, and it is, then the DOJ should open up charges on anyone who's involved in it, who is participating in it, and anyone who is, wait for it, leading and abetting it, like it sounds like, potentially, this mayor.
It's very simple.
Very, very simple.
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All right, folks.
Jack Posobiec, we are back.
Live all the way, believe it or not, from Budapest, Hungary.
I want to bring in now Real America's Voice as well as the Salem Radio Network with Hour 3, The Charlie Kirk Show, here bringing you today's edition of Human Events.
I just mentioned earlier that earlier today I had the opportunity to take part in a sit-down.
Discussion, basically a roundtable discussion with Prime Minister.
Viktor Orban, so you've got myself, a number of other figures, Ava Vlar, Michael Knowles, so many people that I'm sure you've heard of, many questions that were asked.
We got into a lot of things, including the Ukraine-Russia war.
We're going to get into that a little bit in the next segment.
On all of that, it's pre-taped, and so it's going to be released by the Prime Minister's media team in, I believe, later this week is when it's coming out.
I'll tell you a little bit more about that experience and the experience that I've had over here as well.
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Really excited because I wanted to bring Kenny Cody on now from the humanevents.com side.
Kenny, how are you?
I'm good, Jack.
How are you, brother?
I'm good.
Can you hear me all the way from Budapest?
Can you hear me okay?
Yes.
Here in Cock County, we can hear you from Budapest, Hungary.
That's a wild connection that I never would have thought about.
You've got your piece up now at humanevents.com.
It's just been released, so for folks who don't have humanevents.com bookmarked yet, you'll want to go do that because Kenny Cody is up there and everything he puts out is straight fire.
Kenny, tell us about your new piece.
Yeah, the new piece basically details there is an amendment brought by Roger Marshall and Dick Durbin.
This was one of J.D. Vance's priorities back when he was actually a senator before he became the vice president.
This piece basically details how Main Street is suffering.
There are small businesses that are suffering because of the gouging that Visa and MasterCard of the corporations are in capitalizing.
On Visa card master swaps and the fees that are going directly to these corporations that are robbing small businesses opportunities.
And these amendments are – this amendment specifically of the Genius Act basically concentrates on – Having the power and concentrating over from corporations having this benefit and giving it back to small businesses and encouraging corporations not to necessarily have the benefits that they've had for so long.
I mean, you know, every company in the world, every banking firm, everybody uses credit card swapping machines.
And Visa and MasterCard have taken advantage of this over other credit card companies, over small businesses.
And what this amendment does in this Genius Act bill, it will give power back to small businesses.
And this corporatist mindset of giving the benefits basically to monopolies in Visa and MasterCard over other credit card companies, giving the power back to small businesses, giving the power back to even smaller credit card companies and even those like PayPal, Venmo and others, the opportunity to create an equal playing field and going away from the corporatist mindset that the current credit card swap and master swaps have over the credit card business in the United States.
So this is huge because the bill itself, what it's doing is it's giving the opportunity and ability, really, I think, because the average consumer, you know, one of the things that a lot of people miss out when it comes to credit cards is saying, look, I need to do this because in America, unfortunately, because of the ravages of inflation and so many other problems of the economy during the Biden regime, guess what?
American debt limits right now, or debt levels right now, I should say.
Are actually higher than they've been in years, possibly the highest in all of history.
So, Kenny, walk us through the current situation that's driving this legislation and why you're seeing Republicans reach across the aisle on something like this.
Well, I think this is the same mindset that the American nationalist populist movement has created in the Republican Party.
You know, no longer are we catering to corporations like Visa and like MasterCard.
And, you know, look, I use Visa.
I've got a debit card that uses Visa.
Not necessarily that I hate that corporation, but the current mindset and the current infrastructure that is the credit card corporations that are the small businesses using these credit cards, we're giving these unnecessary benefits to big corporations that want monopolies over.
this business and over this sector of American business.
And what this is doing is it's helping facilitate the idea that the Republican Party is no longer one that is going to cater to corporations.
It's no longer going to take big money from donors, from these corporations, the CEOs, We hear all the time about all these other corporations in media, in business, in economics that are taking advantage of American workers.
Visa, Master, and Tartar are doing the same thing only with these credit card laws that are currently in place and taking advantage of small businesses, taking advantage of banks, and taking advantage of other credit card corporations by getting these unnecessary benefits.
And this creates an equal playing field.
The Republican Party for so long wanted this libertarian mindset of we're going to cut taxes and we're going to give corporate tax cuts and we're going to always side the corporations over the American people.
We're going to always side the corporations over small businesses.
But this is a step in the right direction.
This is one of J.D. Well, and so why does it – what is it about this legislation that makes you label it nationalist populist?
Why is this a populist piece of legislation?
Well, I think that economic populism is becoming very popular in the Republican Party.
You know, we always talk about, especially with cutting taxes, with giving benefits to corporations.
I think that...
We care about those that are getting a holistic benefit, benefiting all corporations that are using credit cards, benefiting small businesses that use credit card swapping machines.
We are going to ensure that this fair ground is given to anybody and not just to the corporatist mindset.
And populism is the will of the American people.
Nationalism is the will of the American people.
And making sure that the American people who own small businesses, those who use MasterCard, Visa, and other credit card corporations for their purchases, it's creating an equal playing field for those that are using these swap machines.
So if we are able to do this, this creates an anti-corporatist mindset.
it at least creates a fair playing ground and it shifts the Republican Party to a new idea that we're not just So this legislation is going to do with this amendment.
I think that's exactly right.
Kenny, Cody, where can people go to follow you and to read this new piece?
They can follow me at katiecodytn on Twitter and Truth Social and find my archive at humanevents.com.
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We're going to be taking a quick break.
We'll be right back here.
Budapest, Hungary.
Budapest, Hungary.
Today, you know, they talk about influences.
These are influences.
And they're friends of mine.
Jack Posobiec.
Where's Jack?
He's done a great job.
All right, folks.
Jack Posobiec.
Here we are back live.
Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network.
We're coming to you all the way from Budapest, Hungary, where I'm attending CPAC Hungary.
And as a...
And this interview, so it's myself, you've got Michael Knowles, you've got Ava Vlar, a number of people.
Not a lot, though.
Mariona Fall was there.
And so a number of people who were asking questions and a lot of interesting discussion with Prime Minister Orban about various issues that are affecting not only Europe and himself, The rest of the world.
And I think for a lot of people, his comments on the Ukraine-Russia conflict and his role in attempting to try to bring the sides together, to bring some kind of a peace deal together, are quite interesting.
And so I'll be able to report them to you.
So this interview, the format of it, it's going to be released.
Later on by the Hungarians.
And so this was an interview I took part in, not for the show proper, but we'll be able to play you clips of it.
And I got to say, he was very candid.
He was very candid about his meetings with the Ukrainians and his meetings with the Russians.
And what he said about the Ukrainians, that when he went to meet with President Zelensky, he said, I think that you should take a peace deal because I don't believe you have time on your side.
And whatever deal you take now will be better than something you may get in the future.
To which point, Zelensky essentially rejects the deal or rejects any idea and says, we have time on our side and we can defeat Russia militarily.
And then he says he went to Russia and basically asked the same questions to the Russians and said, and their response was, we don't want to take the deal.
Because we have our time on our side, and we believe that we can militarily defeat the Ukrainians.
And so you've essentially got a stalemate there in terms of at least the diplomacy, but where you don't have a stalemate is on the front lines of this war, on the lines where the drone strikes keep going back and forth, where the Ukrainians, and we had Jim Ferguson on yesterday talking about this, have attempted to another assassination attempt on Vladimir Putin, where they send a drone swarm at his helicopter in Kursk on Russian territory.
Then the USA respond with these missile volleys as well as another drone volley on Moscow.
But on the ground, in these areas of the Russian-speaking provinces and areas in the east, the Russian military continues to gain territory every day.
President Trump, of course, has been asking over and over, is there's got to be some way to stop this.
There's got to be some way to have a peace...
And from Prime Minister Orban's perspective, he said this is something that he's wanted a lot as well, because the greatest threat of all would be that of nuclear war.
Also, by the way, earlier today, we will be able to play this for you, had the opportunity to interview the Foreign Minister of Georgia, who's here visiting today.
And when I sat down with her, I asked her that question as well, and we certainly agreed.
On the idea of wanting to prevent nuclear war and this being the highest possible use of diplomacy, whether in Europe or anywhere else, vis-a-vis Iran, vis-a-vis China, etc.
And so the reasons that we're looking at all of these questions, the reason why it matters to the United States is just that.
We don't want nuclear war.
And Prime Minister Orban said something very directly to us.
He said, And Russia and Ukraine only isn't enough to get to the actual answer here.
Also, kind of interestingly, towards the end of this discussion, I had the opportunity to ask Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
I said, you know, we've been having an issue with the United States government in the previous administration because, well, Joe Biden was in the presidency, but we're not actually sure.
Who the president was?
And I wanted to know if you had any thoughts on the matter, Prime Minister Orban.
Orban responds, we never thought that he was the president.
And he left it at that.
Then I said, well, hold on.
If he wasn't the president, who do you think was the president?
And to which he responded, now that is the most dangerous question of all.
Folks, who was running the United States government?
During the Biden administration, yes, we know in name, people like, as we've said on this program so many times, Dr. Jill Biden, Steve Reschetti, Jeff Zentz, Ron Klain, Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, making all these decisions up to themselves.
The real question was, is really the decision maker there?
And ultimately, we know it wasn't Biden, which means, by the way, those pardons are null.
And void.
Hunter Biden, did you pardon yourself?
He probably did.
Folks, we'll be right back.
Jack Posobiec, Real America's Voice, Salem Radio Network, Cuban Events Day.
Hey, Jack, where is Jack?
Where is Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
All right, Jack Posobiec back live.
CPAC Budapest going on here in Hungary.
Had the opportunity earlier today to sit down with the foreign minister of Georgia.
We're so honored here on Human Events Daily to be sitting down with Maka Borchitili.
She is the Foreign Minister of Georgia.
Madam Foreign Minister, thank you so much for joining us today.
What brings you to CPAC?
Why come to CPAC now?
Well, I think that's the best value to show that we are ready to fight for values that need to be defended because that's very important today.
Values that are Christian values, values that are shared widely.
And that are under attack under the name of Liberals very much in today's Europe and not only in Europe.
And we see that it is very much related to security, to stability, and it is very much related to defending democracy as well.
It's very important.
And this really seems to have been the biggest And because there's a paradox here, an irony, where in order to, for those freedom fighters, for those sovereigntists, people who respect their culture, their heritage, their national identity, we are faced constantly under threat from Brussels, from...
And so the paradox, of course, is that even though we are not globalists, we can be friends.
Because this is real friendship.
And you respect the differences, but you understand when you have a common interest.
Absolutely.
And I think Georgia is the best example of how these fights can be conducted.
Because defending sovereignty is essential to protect national interests.
And national interests can protect peace and security where we live.
So that's very important.
And Georgia is a very good example, especially in today's world, to look at us.
And it is good to see and we are happy to see that we are not allowed alone.
And there are people who also share the news that sovereign rights of nations need to be respected.
And sovereign rights are not bad.
And sovereign rights can also be global.
And we can be also friends and share our common interests.
I thought it was to protect the rights of individual nations, and yet we see so many times that these organizations, whether it be the UN, whether it be the EU, whether it be WHO and so many of these other things, it turns out that they seem to be the ones who are now encroaching on rights.
And of course in Hungary there was the issue of George Soros' NGOs.
We have the same issue in the United States.
However, President Trump is cleaning that up.
We have this issue all across Eastern Europe where these non-government organizations will come in and then try to take power away from actually the elected governments and in many cases they will be supporting governments that have nothing to do with the interests of the people of that area.
Again, Georgia is a very good example.
We didn't like Soviet Union because we didn't have sovereign rights under the Soviet Union, right?
And we like the European Union because our expectation is that this is the union of free nations where sovereign rights are respected, sovereign rights of nations.
But unfortunately, again vis-à-vis Georgia, we see instrumentalists of this topic of European integration and using this topic against sovereignty of Georgia, which is a very painful process.
And again, that is something very important when we talk
That's very important that we respect sovereign rights of nations and we respect the sovereignty of the countries for the sake of security of Europe.
And I'm coming from the United States.
We're not a member of the European Union.
We are a member of NATO.
We are members of the United Nations and a number of these organizations.
And yet, from President Trump's perspective and from our new Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, it's been a total shift.
In the policy of the administration where rather than forcing other countries to go along with whatever policy we want, all that they've been asking are for the rights of free elections to be upheld, such as Romania, the rights of free speech to be upheld all across the world.
And in many cases now we're hearing a new theme that trade deals, potentially even security compacts will be judged based on the upholding of free speech, free elections in all countries.
What would your message be to the US side from Georgia's perspective?
Thank you for mentioning that because what we hear from a new administration in the United States, what we hear from President Trump and State Secretary Rubio, it's very promising.
In a sense that that's exactly what we were talking about for many years in Georgia.
And respecting democracy, first of all, means to respect the choice of people, what people choose for their government.
And that, again, Georgia is a good example of how we fight to defend the choice of Georgian people, Georgian nation, because government is under attack, because somebody doesn't like.
What Georgian people decided to have.
And that's, again, good example.
We have faced quite strong pressure in Georgia.
And I think that we need to, and especially when it comes to relationship with the United States, we have big hope that this negative,
And I do believe that we do have common interests and we have to work for that, and for that we do need to cooperate.
Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, as you mentioned, there's been a question of the relations between the post-Soviet states and the United States.
And so we saw the emergence of countries like Belarus, like Ukraine, like Georgia, so many other, Kazakhstan, so many others that have come in.
So these are non-EU member states, and yet are their own states in their own right.
The question, obviously, of the normalization of relations between the U.S. and the post-Soviet nations.
Do you believe that President Trump has the ability to do this?
Look, Georgia is the country, post-Soviet country-state, that has been always the most reliable partner for the United States.
We have been always there to show that.
We are reliable partners for the United States.
Georgia has been the largest non-NATO country contributing to NATO missions when it was in the interests of the United States.
So that is something very important to take into account when we talk about Georgia-US relationship.
If we see that this is not in a very good shape today, what are the reasons for that today?
And that we will definitely go to that so-called deep state and what is run from there and why this relationship is maybe not in a best shape today.
So we have to look at that, find the reasons, and work for the best interests of the United States and Georgia.
President Trump is committed to pushing for peace deals, not only between Ukraine-Russia confrontation, but also Israel-Gaza, a nuclear deal with Iran, as well as pushing for peace in Asia, China, Taiwan, all of these various issues.
Do you believe this is the right approach?
Absolutely.
Again, we know very well what peace means and what is the price for peace and how important it is for future development and for everything.
That's why Georgia was the country that supported US position in United Nations when it was introduced about peace in Ukraine.
And we are very much supporting to find...
That's very important.
Georgia itself.
has 20% of its territories occupied by Russia and we are still looking for peaceful means to find peaceful solution of this conflict and we know very well how much important it is to secure stability in the country for economic development and for the future of any Georgian citizen.
So that's why we think that the initiative of President Trump that is related to peaceful, to achieve peace in Ukraine is very important.
and I hope that they will succeed in this process.
We've taken the position, and many of us who have been associated with the Trump movement, MAGA, CPAC, they say, are you...
Are you pro-Russia?
Are you pro-this?
I'm anti-war.
We've seen, and my family is coming from a Polish background, and they saw World War I. They saw World War II.
We don't want to see World War III.
I think World War III, nuclear-armed countries, would be the greatest potential threat to sovereign And so for those of us who have, maybe we have disagreements over particular issues, all sorts of issues, there's always healthy forums for debate on that.
But I certainly hope that standing up against the threat of nuclear war is something all nations can agree on.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, again, that's exactly what we are fighting for.
This is peace and we are against war.
That's absolutely the position of the Georgian government.
And we are defending this position.
Only thing that we don't want is confrontation and war.
And we see that lots of attempts.
we experienced to somehow destabilize Georgia and to have another hotspot in this area.
So that's very dangerous and we are standing for peace and we are very, very, very, very I don't want to take up too much more of your time.
It's a busy event.
I understand you have a busy schedule.
Do you plan to come to the U.S. anytime soon?
I would love to, and I hope that it will happen sometime soon.
Well, when you come, please come visit us in Washington, D.C. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much, man.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great to get to you.
Amen.
Bye, man.
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So we're back live final segment here from, or today's show, I should say, from I'll be here tomorrow as well as CPAC Hungary continues.
In fact, I'll be finishing up my own.
I'm going to be doing a live interview on stage tomorrow at CPAC Hungary.
But this question that I had the opportunity to ask Prime Minister Viktor Orban, I think it's something that's very salient for a lot of Americans.
Was Joe Biden really the President of the United States?
Was he really the one who was actively making these decisions?
Was he really the one who was actively deciding who gets pardoned?
And if Joe Biden wasn't actually signing these pardons, who was it?
Who was it really?
I got a question, Hunter Biden.
Did you actually pardon yourself?
Did you think that you could get away with pardoning yourself, Hunter Biden?
I think you did.
I think that's exactly what went on here.
I think it's very obvious.
I think a lot of people are starting to understand that it's very obvious.
When I first said this, I think it was about two weeks ago, people were, they weren't ready to hear it.
They weren't thinking about it.
They were saying, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
There's other stuff going on.
You'll see.
You'll all see.
Now we get to the thick of it.
It turns out, yeah, yeah, it probably was.
Because we said, from the very outset, I said, you got to target the pardons.
The pardons are everything.
Because if you knock the pardons down, Then guess what?
You can put an investigation, the FBI, Dan Bongino and Cass Patel, go and open a direct investigation into them immediately.
But you've got to knock the pardons down first.
So what did I say?
People don't understand the chess moves here.
If you knock the pardons down, then you have the ability to go after them for those crimes.
You can't open an investigation into a crime someone's already been in.
You could open investigations into other things and sort of talk around it.
There's also an interesting angle on this, is that Hunter Biden, in maintaining this pardon that he got from his father, allegedly, actually loses his Fifth Amendment protection.
What does this mean?
So, in order to have Fifth Amendment protection against That means you can't testify against yourself, and you can't testify to criminalize yourself.
So you can't be forced to testify that you committed a crime.
Now, you can, by the way, go on the stand as, say, like Kyle Rittenhouse did, of course, when he was on trial back in 2021, and you could waive your Fifth Amendment rights and then go and testify if you want to.
However, if you accept a pardon, your Fifth Amendment rights do not accept.
Apply.
And your Fifth Amendment rights don't apply because you cannot be incriminated for something or time period or actions wherein you have full pardon, you have immunity over.
So you can, in fact, be subpoenaed.
So Hunter Biden right now could be subpoenaed by the House, which, you know, So you could open an investigation into Burisma.
The House could open an investigation into Burisma right now and subpoena Hunter Biden and force him to come and force him to testify.
And guess what?
There isn't a thing he could do about it.
There isn't a thing he could do about it.
Why?
Because he can't plead fifth.
That also involves, you know, that's also a criminal matter, et cetera, et cetera.
So let's also, let's also, by the way, go back to the pardons.
Anthony Fauci.
Biden, at this point, it's very clear.
Hunter Biden pardoned himself.
And how do we know this?
Well, Human Events Daily for years was telling you that the White House was being run by people who were essentially top levels of the Biden junta.
And we talked about Team...
Years.
Longtime Human Events Daily listeners are going to say, Jack, why are you talking about this again?
You told me a million times.
Well, guess what?
There's a lot of people who are acting like this is brand new because Alex Thompson and Jake Taper started talking about it.
Well, guess what?
Just because they started talking about it doesn't mean Human Events Daily wasn't four years.
Numb skulls.
When we were talking about it day in and day out, we were giving you the play-by-play of what was actually going on behind the scenes from these people.
We knew.
We had the inside scoop, and now they're coming out four years later, and they're, oh, we got this big bombshell.
Well, it turns out that Jeff Zenz and Ron Klain and Jill Biden and Hunter Biden were running the Biden White House.
Human events told you that day one.
We told you.
We told you day 10. We told you day 100.
We told you every single time who was actually behind it.
If you want to listen, if you want to listen back then, maybe you'll listen.
Guess what?
It's just as true.
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