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Faith, Sacrifice and the American Pope: A Memorial Day Special

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It appears as if we are now seeing white smoke spew from the actual chimney of the Sistine Chapel.
The Catholic Church has a new leader this morning, and for the first time in history, it's an American-born pope.
Absolute shocking pick.
The first American pope.
This is not something that anyone saw coming.
From a leaked FBI memo to the arrest of a British priest, the signs seem to point to a crackdown on Catholics in Britain.
Father Sean Goff was charged for silently praying outside of a closed abortion clinic last week.
Meantime, a leaked memo from the FBI field office in Richmond, Virginia.
Which the FBI has since retracted warned that so-called radical traditional Catholics could be a threat to national security.
I think a lot of young people are like just really lost.
And some of us have found, reclaimed a meaningfulness through establishment, like through this institution of the church.
You know, when I was in college, In the last 20 years, that pendulum has swung far to the right.
Interest in that, for example, the traditional Latin Mass, that is a real thing.
We have it here on campus, and it's a pretty significant group.
The American church's influence is growing.
U.S. Cardinals now taking on increased responsibilities, helping to shape and shift Catholicism for the next generation.
All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.
Human Events Daily.
Today is May 26, 2025.
Anno Domini.
It's Memorial Day in America.
And why does Memorial Day seem to matter now more?
So today is not Veterans Day, by the way.
And I don't always talk about this, but I say that as a veteran.
Memorial Day is for people who didn't make it back.
So don't just say, oh, thank you for your service today to any veteran.
Remember, it's for people who didn't make it back.
But by the way, you know, it's okay to say that, too.
I'm not one of those guys who's like, you know, about it.
But let's be serious.
Why does Memorial Day, why do Veterans Day, why do these things seem to matter more?
Because we're moving into an era of populist conservatism now.
And what does this mean?
This means that we're moving away from this idea of the universal liberalist values that we had had prior, whether a neoconservatism or a neoliberalism, this idea that our goal in the world, America's role in the world, is to spread these liberalist ideals throughout the Middle East and throughout China and throughout Russia and Iran and all these places.
That's not what our role is.
Our role as the American people is to stand on the shoulders of giants, of the people who came before us, our ancestors, who forged this nation, who forged Western civilization through abject adversity,
through challenges, through thunderstorms, through hurricanes, through tsunamis, many of whom, and today is for them, Paid the ultimate price.
The full measure of devotion to their nation.
When you look at the flag, when you teach your children about that, that's what we're talking about.
We're not talking about some abstract ideals.
America is not an idea.
America is a place.
America is our home.
America is a people.
And for all of those Forces, influences, globalism, communism, whatever ism you want to call it.
You cannot change that fact.
You want to.
You deeply want to, but you cannot.
And so, we're going to talk about traditionalism, the role of traditionalism, here on the show today as we remember and reflect on the service and sacrifice of the so many.
Who came before us to give us the ability to live in this country today and to pass on in our legacy a great country for our children, for our grandchildren, and every generation.
Nothing will stand in our way, and our golden age has just begun.
This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
Welcome to the second American Revolution!
Alright ladies and gentlemen, here we are back, Human Events Daily this Memorial Day.
A day that we remember the service and the sacrifice of so many who came before us and gave the last full measure of devotion.
And fighting for your country, fighting for your people, fighting for your God is what we are called to do.
And as an American, as a guy who happens to be a veteran, And a guy who is a Polish Catholic, you know, I always say we're Polish, me and my brother and my family, we pretty much only come in one flavor.
Poles are always like that.
You know, we just got back from this, covering this conclave over in Rome at the Vatican, and we have the appearance now of a new pope, being Pope Leo XIV,
And one of our sponsors for that coverage was the great organization Catholics for Catholics that's really been fighting for our country, fighting for President Trump, fighting to bring back these traditional ideals, not just into the church, but into our country and really challenging other Catholics to say, wait a minute, guys, this isn't the country that we fought for.
this isn't the country that our forefathers fought for.
We need No, we need to be stewards of the nations, as God called us.
So I wanted to bring on the CEO of Catholics for Catholics Now, John Yep.
What's up, John?
Great to be here.
Talking through Zoom, but what, about a week ago, two weeks ago, we were there in Rome together covering that historic event for not only for the Catholic Church, but for America, having our first elected American Pope.
Here we are.
John, have you, now, had you ever been to a conclave before?
Was that your first conclave as well?
I was there when Francis was elected.
Okay, I was a seminarian, so I was wearing black and a Roman collar.
Wow.
Spending time there studying at the Regina Apostolorum in Rome, and we were, We got the notification, just like you had with Cardinal Prevost, and we all ran down to the square.
I think I ran about two miles and hitchhiked the rest of the way and was there the moment when Pope Francis came out.
So not my first time, but truly never gets old.
What would you say, and just my own curiosity, was there much difference between the two?
Was there a sense of difference?
I mean, obviously with Benedict.
You know, being alive, there was certainly controversy just swirling around the entire appointment saying, how can we have, you know, sort of two popes at once?
But, you know, what difference would you say between Francis and Leo?
Definitely a difference.
In some ways, in other ways, not.
I mean, you had, of course, back what, February 2013, The first time in roughly like 500 years that a Catholic pontiff resigned from the papacy.
And then just that iconic shot of him flying away in a helicopter over to Castle Gandolfo in the distance.
And it was like, okay, we're without a pope.
But he's still alive, but we're without a pope.
And then just about a month later, March 13th, is when Pope Francis is elected, right?
Jorge Bergoglio.
Initially, You probably would agree, Jack, in some respect, not only doctrinally on what happened just if you're a Catholic and you care about these issues, the obfuscation of doctrine, marriage and the family, the Eucharist, the blessing of same-sex couples, you name it.
You got that?
But then you also have the geopolitical side.
And I know we're going to get into that.
It's one of your fields of expertise with the whole unholy alliance with the Chinese Communist Party and what that did.
And then, of course, the sexual cover-ups.
People like McCarrick, Father Rupnick.
So devastating in a lot of ways.
So this current conclave that we just had, it was extremely important, not only for the church, but for the world.
Well, and John, you know, the biggest issue when we look at all of this and where you saw Pope Francis and President Trump getting into it was this issue of illegal immigration and the issue of borders.
And Francis would come out.
And by the way, I've always tried to be fair and say that Francis also did hold the line on abortion.
He held the line on...
On war.
He was anti-war.
So I've always tried to be fair.
And every time I talk about him, I say, I'm going to say this as well, because it wasn't sort of a left versus right kind of dichotomy.
It doesn't really work that way when it comes to world leaders.
But he does wade into politics.
But by the way, John, let's actually dispel something for people, too, who are not Catholic, because we get this all the time.
When the Pope is speaking out on political issues, is that something that all Catholics have to follow?
Or is that simply a bishop giving his opinion?
It's giving his opinion, right?
So an infallible statement has a very specific formula that needs to be uttered when he's speaking.
It also has to be in line with what previous pontiffs have always and everywhere taught, okay?
Previous popes.
He can't just make up anything he wants on faith and morals.
And last but not least is it must be rooted in sacred scripture.
So those three benchmarks So when he talks about a political issue, an opinion, we're required to give respect, but we don't have to have our firm belief behind that statement, right?
Because he gave off-the-cuff remarks all the time.
And I don't know, Jack, even like, okay, what do you think about this?
So you got, yeah, he was super strong on the abortion issue.
He had statements like, someone who gets an abortion is like hiring a hitman.
Typical Pope Francis is super blunt, right?
But at the same time, he hires or he puts in charge of the Pontifical Academy for Life.
This is kind of like the think tank of the Vatican where they study issues of marriage, life, family.
They produce documents.
Think of like Heritage Foundation, but for the Catholic Church, right?
And the guy in charge of it is Archbishop Paglia, a guy who thought that abortion in Italy It was part of justice of society.
So he's the Pope of paradoxes.
On one hand, you have, he says he's David, but on the other hand, his actions often do something else, which I'm grateful that Pope Leo, in the first acts he just did in terms of appointments, is he replaced Archbishop Paglia and named Cardinal Reina, who is much more orthodox, to head the Pontifical Academy for Life.
No, and I saw that as well.
So these are huge, huge news.
By the way, so something that I want people to know, when we're talking about these infallible statements given by the Pope, I believe in terms of the extraordinary magisterium, so this is the papal declaration that's come out in terms of the highest form of an infallible statement by the Pope in 2,000 years of Church history, it has only ever been used twice.
It has been used two times.
So these are not, you know, these are very, very rare.
Once for the Immaculate Conception, and then again for the Assumption of Mary, 1854 and 1950.
These are not common things.
And so when the Pope comes out and he's giving his opinion on political matters, and we'll talk about this, you know, J.D. Vance and Michael Rubio going to meet with him, President Trump talking about brokering some potentially a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia, maybe some others.
What we're talking about is his influence as a world leader, which can be extremely useful, like we saw during the papacy of John Paul II, to fight the Soviet Union because his power as a symbol.
And John, I'll tell you, I'll preface this a little bit here.
We're coming up on our first break.
But what I'd love, in my heart of hearts, what I'd love to see is Pope Leo going and speaking to the people of China.
Going and speaking to the people that are there, living under the Chinese Communist Party.
The fact that this deal played a role in, we're hearing reportedly played a role in the conclave itself.
We're going to get into all that and more.
Can Pope Leo go and open up the hearts of China?
We'll be right back.
Jack Posobiec here, Human Defense Daily.
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He's done a great job.
All right, Jack Posobiec.
Here we are back live.
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We're on with John Gap.
Catholics for Catholics.
He's telling us about his reporting and his work there at the Conclave.
I was there as well, which produced Pope Leo XIV, the first American pope.
And we're digging into some questions about this.
John, one of the things that I actually did hear, reported by a former colleague of mine, Alex Salvi, we both were at OAN together.
He's now at Newsmax, and he's been stationed there in Rome for quite some time.
He reported that one of the reasons that Cardinal Parolin, who had been widely expected to be the frontrunner in terms of this conclave, that he was passed over specifically because of his connection to the Vatican secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party.
And that specifically, it was the Asian cardinals sort of banded together.
Cardinal Zen, of course, flew from Hong Kong to the conclave to make this case.
That that deal and any connection to it need to be shot down.
Have you heard this as well?
Have you heard this reporting?
And what is your sense of it?
Heard the same thing.
One of the primary reasons he was taken out as a frontrunner, besides the health scare that he had early on in the preparatory meetings, whether that was true or not, that also shook the Cardinals up, along with, like you said, the secret China-Vatican accord called secret.
Because we literally don't know the contents of what actually has transpired in that deal.
Where we know one thing is that the Vatican has allowed for the first time really in her history a foreign entity to basically name the bishops of our Catholic Church, right?
So that's never been done before.
So why was that done for Chinese Communist Party when they openly persecute?
And I love the way you put that, though, because that is exactly what it's like.
It's this idea that it's specifically like the Uyghurs that we understand that these are people that are being completely mistreated by their government.
They're people who have been completely overlooked by the West because we have this deal with China.
Oh, they're going to make all of our iPhones and they're going to make all of our superconductors and all these different things.
But at the end of the day, we know who they are and we know who this benefits.
And what does it turn into in the United States?
It also benefits the production and promotion of cultural Marxism.
And I've always said that beyond The actual Chinese Communist Party, the biggest and greatest threat to Western society is cultural Marxism.
And guess what?
I want my Pope to be a force against that completely.
And I don't want this idea of, oh, well, we need to be open to all.
No, absolutely not.
Stand on tradition.
John, isn't that what's bringing people back to the church to begin with in this country?
It is.
I mean, secular networks have picked up on this rise of Catholicism in the United States.
They've oftentimes phrased it.
I think the Guardian had an article, Spectator, in the last two weeks, New York Post.
They call them MAGA Catholics.
And I think that's also in some ways their attempt at trying to understand this phenomenon where you have a religious demographic in this country, particularly young men who have just looked around at the world around them and seen Charlie Kirk had a great point on this.
He was in a group text with a bunch of Protestant pastors.
And he just said, like, guys, young men are flocking to the Catholic Church.
And he made that observation that it's because these young men are looking at the institution of the Catholic Church and realizing that when the amount of genders is up for discussion, things like that, something so basic, that you want to look to a solid institution.
That has not changed its core teachings.
They're finding that, thanks be to God, as a Catholic, I say this, in the Catholic Church.
So that's a good thing.
I mean, one point, Charlie, or Jack, I want to ask you about, too, is did you see the report that a Chinese cardinal just came out, I think, in the last couple days and said that Pope Leo has actually made several trips to China?
Now, that could be insignificant.
I did see the reporting on Steve Bannon, and it came out through Liz Yor.
I haven't talked to them.
Outside of that, even though obviously I do know those people.
And if it's true that he's made trips to China, I've made trips to China as well.
I think that this is something that I would love to hear.
I would absolutely love to hear him talk about publicly and talk about the issues of being Catholic in China and what the government there— When I went to go to church, I used to have to show my passport to Chinese police officers to prove that I was an American citizen, that I was not a Chinese citizen, and they could write a checkmark down of who was going to church in Shanghai.
I want a pope that's actually willing to fight back against the CCP.
We'll be right back.
quick break.
And Jack, where is Jack?
Where is Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
All right, Jack, so we're back live, human events daily.
We're on with John Yep of Catholics for Catholics.
We're talking about Pope Leo, the first American pope on this Memorial Day.
John, so we also saw that, you know, that notwithstanding, you know, Pope Leo, we've talked about how we want him to really take a strong voice towards the Chinese Communist Party, towards China directly.
We know that the Trump administration, J.D. Vance, vice president, Catholic convert.
He's gone over just an incredible and inadvertent, almost really, story arc that we've seen here.
The last world leader to meet with Pope Francis before he passes on.
Then J.D. Vance coming, attending the inaugural mass.
For Pope Leo, just a few weeks later, and then having this huge sit-down meeting with him and our Secretary of State, also Catholic, Marco Rubio.
John, what do you make of all of this?
And have you ever really seen the level of engagement between a President of the United States, his cabinet, and a Pope, a pontiff, an American pontiff like this?
It just presents an incredible new opportunity.
It's an opportunity.
This is almost reminiscent of the 1980s, when Ronald Reagan basically established a working relationship with the Vatican.
It kind of existed in some way, shape, or form prior to Reagan's election, but it was during his two terms that the evil empire speech was said, given, and then Reagan began that incredible relationship with St. John Paul II, which ultimately led to the downfall, as you said, of the Soviet Empire.
Could we maybe be seeing something similar that happens with the Chinese Communist Party, that they might work together?
That will be, you know, time will tell.
But I think that first meeting that, you know, he made time for him right after the inaugural mass to meet in person.
They, of course, exchanged greetings there in St. Peter's, and then they met the day afterwards.
Bodes very, very well for what we could do from this vantage point in this country with the Pope.
And that's something where, look, I mean, I remember, you know, John Paul II was sort of my first pope, quote-unquote, growing up, that that was my vision of what a pope could be.
And as a guy who is Polish, what he meant for the Polish people, and even today what he means for the Polish people, when you go to Poland, you see statues of John Paul II everywhere you see.
Photographs, icons, you see everything's named, John Paul II this, John Paul II that, and streets and towns and children.
It's just everywhere.
It's just literally everywhere.
And so the idea was, it wasn't just that he was so great in terms of his faith, and it wasn't just that he was so great in terms of his charisma, which he did have in droves.
It was the fact that he was able to go to his homeland, Which was under communist occupation, occupied by a godless atheist regime emanating out of the Soviet Union, and be that force for good to break the shackles of godless communism and return the people to God.
And now, of course, you know, Pope Leo, he's American.
He's not, you know, he's not from China.
But you know what's interesting?
What's interesting, John, is perhaps we could use some of that in America.
Perhaps we could use an America that returns to God.
John, do you think that's something that we could actually use in America?
Are we the ones that have actually been captured and taken over by a godless, atheist, secular regime?
They tried in many ways, and they almost did so in the last election.
But, you know, 58%, 40%, the largest Catholic landslide in U.S. election history.
So we the people, we the Catholic people, you know, we the faithful people, better said, rose up and understood what was at stake, and we fought back.
So we pushed, you know, a temporary win.
I mean, the battle's just beginning, but I do see that.
I see because when you start to lose something that you love, But John, I mean, I guess just to sort of elucidate my point there, what I mean is it's not just the government.
It was every institution, and so many institutions, even down to the lower levels now.
You see it in school boards.
Obviously, we can't have prayer in churches, or excuse me, prayer in schools anymore.
God has just been driven from the public square.
And so when I think of John Paul II, That first mass that he gave in Poland, what was everyone chanting?
They were saying, we want God.
We want God.
And I look at the United States of America today, and I think, that's what's missing.
That's the biggest thing that everyone is yearning for, is crying out for, saying we're missing meaning.
We have all the information in the world through social media.
We have connection.
We have AI.
And as great as AI is and as incredible and it can search everything, it can't give you meaning.
It can't provide meaning for you.
And so everyone's trying to make sense.
And I think that's why Gen Z, these Zoomers, they're saying, you know, these institutions don't work for us.
What does have meaning?
And it's God.
It's always been the sacred, the divine, and that's why they want the connection to source through traditional practices of Christianity that have always been, and really in many cases, unchanging since the days of the early church.
Could you imagine if Pope Leo comes out to the United States and starts talking like that?
That would be phenomenal.
And I agree with you, Jack, that institutions have been infiltrated, right?
Even the very structure of the United States, the Catholic Church, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, it became just in many ways a...
50% of their funds were coming from federal grants, which kind of just laser-focused their minds on receiving those grants and then helping with the illegal invasion at the southern border.
When you get that kind of distraction, monetary distraction, that's an infiltration of a system.
Which is designed to be, like the Founding Fathers saw it, as indispensable support for America, our faith, the religion, the churches, right?
So Pope Leo, could he have a role in freeing the church back up so that she can be just a voice in the public square again, like John Paul II?
I think so.
And that'd be so incredible.
Think about it.
A John Paul II for America.
He wore the John Paul II vest when he saw that in the inaugural mass.
That's pretty cool.
JP2's vestments that he wore as Pope, Pope Leo chose to wear that.
The staff as well.
Yeah, good point.
Exactly.
The staff.
And so he's clearly making these references and he's making these symbolic references and these aesthetic references, which I love.
But, you know, I still have to say, though, and just as a guy who's, you know, look, it's my job to be skeptical.
It's kind of what we do around here.
And as someone who lived through the 12 years tumultuous years of Pope Francis, you know, we're still waiting to see, you know, I like what I see so far, but I want to see some more confirmation of this, like just, okay, that's great.
You know, you said a prayer in Latin and, you know, my children can do that.
Right.
You know, you know, I want to see some actual brass tacks.
Bishop Strickland, you know, are you going to do right by Bishop Strickland?
Is, is Father Pavone, who I saw that he is, uh, Now petitioning to be reinstated to the priesthood, which is really just a guy who had a disagreement with his bishop.
I mean, that was something so trivial.
By the way, never attacked Rome, never attacked Pope Francis.
I thought they went way too hard, came down way too hard on Father Pavone.
And just a number of things like that.
What about the synodal church, Jack?
I mean, that whole thing, that whole concept.
Like, what's he going to do there?
I mean, you're spot on.
We're cautious.
We're not canonizing the guy, but there are concrete things that need to be implemented right away.
The synodal church idea, for those who are familiar with it, this is Pope Francis'idea of creating a church which is, yes, in dialogue with the common people, but it creates, it's almost...
We're never really going to know what we stand on as firm.
He wanted a permanent synodal church where we're constantly reassessing foundational truths of our church, even Western civilization.
So if how Pope Leo approaches that topic, we'll be telling.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And so, you know, we need...
Our founding fathers actually and literally believed that America, and at the time, they say, well, what about pluralism?
What about religious freedom?
The founders always envisioned America, and America always has been, from the time of the founding, and is today a Christian-majority nation.
It just truly is.
And so the idea of non-establishment of religion in this country was not a, it was not a ban on religion.
The idea was there would be no Church of America the way that the Anglican Church is the Church of England, where the king sort of replaces the pope and becomes the leader of the church as well as the leader In fact, the founders, I believe, would be abhorrent.
Did you know, and I pulled this up, and I was arguing with some lib the other day, and I pulled it up and I said, Thomas Jefferson himself, Mr. Separation of Church and State, they always say, He used to attend Christian services that were held every single weekend in the well of the House of Representatives in the U.S. Capitol building.
That's the way that our country used to be, and that's just American history.
And John, they hate it.
They really hate it, don't they?
They absolutely hate it.
I mean, George Washington himself gave a sizable donation to one of the first Catholic churches ever in the United States, in Virginia, March 17th, actually, Patrick's Day.
So, you know, and he had images of the Blessed Mother and St. John the Apostle in Mount Vernon.
They're still there to this day.
So, obviously, the Founding Fathers had such respect for religion.
And going back even to the way the Catholic Church viewed America early, early on.
Don't forget Benjamin Franklin's visit to France, 1790s.
He met with the ambassador to France, who also served as the ambassador to the United States.
And the ambassador, on orders from the Pope, basically asked Benjamin Franklin, hey, are you okay with these bishops?
We're going to name John Carroll as bishop of the United States.
And Benjamin Franklin's response was, here in America, we respect your freedom of religion, okay?
You can choose whoever you want to.
Okay?
Which is interesting.
Juxtapose that 250 years later with what the Chinese Communist Party is doing.
They are the ones naming bishops, okay?
And so it's an interesting interplay.
We obviously know that our country is, you know, as the Supreme Court, one of the most underlooked Supreme Court decisions is the 1892 decision, I'm forgetting the name of it, where they came out, SCOTUS came out and said, this is a Christian nation.
Folks, we need to remember that.
We need to remember our history and America's unique role in this world today on Memorial Day.
We'll be right back.
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Right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event and we're going to turn it around and make our country quite a good day.
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All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.
Final segment on this Memorial Day.
You're live on Real America's Voice, the Salem Radio Network.
We're on with John Yepp, the CEO of Catholics for Catholics, and we're talking about
And John, you know, it's Memorial Day as we talk about this, and when I look back at the, you know, you think about the America's war history, our military history, Lexington and Concord, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, the War of 1812.
The country that those people were fighting for, even all the way up through World War I, World War II, the boys in Normandy were not fighting for a godless, atheist, cultural, Marxist, moral, relativistic.
You know, non-nation-state, universal, liberal.
No!
They were fighting for the America with the American values rooted in the Holy Bible.
That's what they were fighting for.
That's what they wanted.
That's what they died for.
That's the country as it's always been constituted.
And I just hope and pray that this new American pope can play a role in that.
If you doubt what Jack just said, that they were fighting for the ideals from the Bible as a Christian nation, just go look at Arlington Seminary.
There's a reason that, what, 90% of the headstones?
What are they?
They're crosses, okay?
These men understood.
That's right, they're all crosses.
What it was about, right?
I think it's also fitting, I know this is more, this would be better for Veterans Day, but the fact that Pope Leo was elected Pope on the 80th anniversary of Victory in Europe Day, and his own dad, Landed at D-Day.
Actually manned a landing craft, right?
So it's just significant that, you know, we've kind of, this beautiful, amazing country that, as we celebrate Memorial Day, has given not only these incredible leaders, Eddie Vance, Marco Rubio, that are on the front lines for us, but are meeting now with the first ever American-born Pope.
Again, jury's out on how his pontificate will be, but for the moment, we'll take, you know, take the good things that we can from what this could be.
And it's so incredible to sit here and say, and look, there's all the reasons.
We've talked about this, and I've been on War Room with Steve Bannon and Ben Harnwell and everyone else.
And were there financial reasons for picking an American pope?
Of course.
Were there economic reasons?
Of course.
Were there political reasons?
Of course, and the media is making much And I was sort of analyzing, you know.
People say, oh, Posobiec is criticizing.
I'm analyzing.
I'm analyzing the situation.
Fair analysis, man.
Explaining what I think went down in the conclave.
That was off the top of my head.
Now we're getting more information out.
Actually lines up quite closely with some of the things I was talking about.
I was really pounding on that CCP deal.
Turns out that was a huge part of this as well.
But John, I think this is the hope.
This is the real hope.
And not just by the way of the United States, but the whole world.
The whole world.
It's we, as Christians, as Catholics, we want the world to turn to Christ.
That is the goal.
And I believe it was the former Pope Leo, Pope Leo III, He did say that.
That was a formal document, the Abu Dhabi document in 2019.
You can argue all you want about Francis' pontificate, but the fact of the matter is he put his name to a document, like you said, which said that God wills the plurality of all religion.
No, he doesn't.
Okay?
Jesus Christ came for one specific, to show one path to heaven, right?
So I think this is the moment as an American, even if you're not Catholic, I think you should take great pride in what our country is.
The financials, you brought that up.
It's a fair analysis, because here's the reality: America funds Our economy, our prosperous nation that God has given us, we are one of the most generous nations in the world, and we've in turn given it back to the Vatican.
We pulled back the past 12 years because we saw this quasi-communist leader changing what we believe is Catholic for centuries.
And what we need to do is remember that America— So this was on the table as it should be on the table.
John, where can people go to follow you and get more information about Catholics for Catholics?
You can go to cforc.com, Catholics for Catholics.
We are here, along with many other groups, to be on the front lines of making this country great again, putting God at the center of it.
Christ is King.
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