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The president is adamant his tariffs will encourage manufacturing in the U.S.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
Today is April 1st, 2025.
I know, Domini, and this will be the final episode of Human Events Daily.
April fools.
No, seriously, folks, today is a big day.
We've got massive elections going down in Florida, Wisconsin.
I want all the cheeseheads to get out there.
Love Wisconsin.
I never realized that I'd spend so much, I would spend so much time in my life in Wisconsin, but With all of the insanity around Kenosha, Kyle Rittenhouse, all the reporting I did on that, I ended up spending a lot, a lot of time in Wisconsin than was there last year, of course, for Milwaukee and the incredible RNC that was held just days after President Trump's assassination attempt.
So my thoughts and prayers for Wisconsin.
I hope everybody gets out there and performs well and pushes Brad Schimel over in this very important election for the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
But! We also have to look at Florida.
You've got two special elections down there.
And then going forward, there's a lot of work yet to be done in Washington, D.C. What do we see this week that President Trump has done that the media, of course, is not paying attention to?
Well, number one, huge announcement regarding the tariffs.
And the tariffs, of course, will take place tomorrow, Liberation Day in the United States.
And we're going to have Richard Barris on for the full hour to discuss this.
What do the tariffs mean?
How is the messaging for the American people?
And is there going to be pain in the process?
But remember, pressure creates diamonds.
And that's exactly what the MAGA movement is.
You're all a bunch of diamonds.
So when we're looking into this, we have to understand President Trump put out this huge message that was totally overwatched by the media.
And I get it.
There's a lot going on.
But don't listen to the media hoaxes.
Pay attention to what's important.
No interest On American car loans.
If you buy an American car, you will not have to pay interest.
This is huge!
This is massive!
Guess where you won't see it?
The mainstream media.
Guess what else you won't see in the mainstream media?
Why was Kid Rock at the White House yesterday?
Because President Trump signed an incredible anti-online ticket scammer EO focused on the online ticket scalpers and these scam processes that go on where they're using bot farms.
Many people, not even in the United States, in places like India and other where, where they're going in, they're buying up all the tickets and then jacking up the prices to sell them back to the American people who actually want to go to the concerts or sporting events.
It's a disgusting practice.
It's anti-American.
I hate scammers.
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Send the scammers to Guantanamo Bay.
Folks, we've got a huge show today.
Richard Barris, Strap In.
We'll be right back in Events Daily.
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It's time to bring in Richard Barris, the People's Pundit.
We had him on for a huge special last week, blowing up the self-imploding.
We talked about the Harakiri of the polling industry last week.
But this week and today, I want to talk really about where we're going as a country, as Liberation Day begins tomorrow.
We've got a special election day today, but really, it's Liberation Day.
It's all about the tariffs.
Rich Barris is here.
He's going to walk us through all of it.
The People's Pundit.
What's going on, Rich?
Living the dream, brother.
How you been?
Thanks for having me, as always.
Very, very well, and I appreciate you.
So, when we look at this stuff, Rich, you know, I get it.
I'll just tell you a little anecdote, right?
I'll tell you a little anecdote.
I'm out with my brother.
You know, everybody knows Kevin helps out in the show.
He comes on quite a bit.
The founder of the Gulf of America.
We're, you know, we're taking care of some stuff.
Had to get stopped for gas.
We go to get gas and talking as we usually talk.
We're talking about the White House, talking about something Trump had just done.
I don't even remember what we were saying.
But, you know, we're talking about, oh, it's so great.
Trump did this.
Trump did that.
The guy who works at the gas station comes up to us.
It was not a wah-wah.
Can't say.
I was stepping out on Wawa for a moment there.
Momentary lapse in judgment.
I know.
I know.
But he comes up to us and he says, well, wait a minute.
I hear Trump.
I'm dead serious this happened.
He goes, wait a minute.
I hear Trump is going to put these tariffs in.
That means prices are going to go up.
And I said, well, yeah, the prices are going to go up maybe for a time for a period, but we're talking about the foreign goods and it's going to increase the amount of jobs and the type of jobs you can get in the United States, which means you're going to have more money.
And he just kind of looks at me and he's like, but I thought Trump was going to make the prices go down.
And this is a guy who works at a gas station.
He understands gas prices.
He understands how that works.
He's not the owner, but you know, he has a general understanding.
And I said that to him.
He's like, well, I don't know if that's a good idea.
You know, we got China owning all our debt.
You know, that means that means we owe him a lot of favors.
I mean, these people are not stupid.
These people are busy, but they are not stupid.
Stupid. And so I'm sitting there thinking, man, this guy's making some really good points.
So Rich, when we hear that sentiment, when I'm getting that sentiment out in the wild, you know, what are some of the things that you're looking at, whether it's in polling or just in your general tracking of public opinion regarding these tariffs?
First of all, let's let's let's break it down for a second.
You know, do you think the tariffs are a good thing?
And why is President Trump doing this in the first place?
He says it's to benefit Yeah, people have to remember what you just said is very important.
People are busy, but they're not dumb.
And I do feel like I can answer all of that, including whether tariffs are a good thing, by just simply saying this.
The White House is ceding a big part of this messaging war to the media, and there's a much better way for them to address this.
They have to remember that Trump was elected.
I mean, there were peripheral issues, but he was elected from the two I's, inflation and immigration.
And yes, he's done a lot at the border.
It's just an LA Times article about how it's basically come down to a trickle across the border.
What used to be a flood is now a trickle.
But people have a habit of forgetting what is fixed and moving on.
You have to remind them.
And when you're doing something like this, and Reagan did this when he implemented his economic program, you have to walk people through this stuff and you have to hold their hand a little bit through it.
And I don't think the White House is doing that.
And we could get into that in a bit more detail.
But it is a good thing.
And that's why you're seeing the president of UAW.
I mean, Sean, come on.
When was the last time you heard the president of UAW come out and praise a Republican president?
they don't do that.
Jack, you've been around a long time.
I have been around a long time.
United Auto Workers do not come out and support and praise a Republican president, but they are because they know that the agenda in the long run is the right thing.
Same thing goes for farmers in Iowa and in the Midwest and the Plains states.
All of these people are going to be affected.
American-made, X, Y, or Z. They support it.
And when we talk about polling, it is different in the Rust Belt and the Mid-Atlantic than it is in the rest of the country.
And you have to be very careful when most of your voters are not politicos.
They're average people, working class people, and average people who don't follow this stuff on a 24-7 basis, not because they wouldn't, but because they can't.
They're busy paying their bills and making a living, taking care of their families.
You have to be careful that what they hear is not only from the Washington Post or CNN or whatever.
And it's not like they're reading them.
But when you have, you know how narratives work.
I shouldn't have to explain this to people.
And the bottom line is.
Very simple, Jack.
You can explain this to them in their language, which I feel like the White House is not doing.
It's just very textbook.
It happens to all presidents.
They get in the White House, they get a little bit isolated a little bit.
You just explain to them something very simple.
It's the same thing.
The political class basically gave the country a bunch of drugs, and they got everybody addicted to these drugs.
Was it good for them in the long run?
No. It wasn't.
And getting off of it, is it going to hurt?
Is there going to be some pain when you break your addiction in the beginning?
Yes. But in the long run, you're going to be healthier.
Yes. I mean, this is how, speak their language, talk in terms they understand.
And right.
I mean, it's the same thing.
We're addicted to foreign goods, Jack, and it's not good for our body.
And explain it to them like that.
Well, you know what, Rich?
We had The Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besant, here on the program last week and that's exactly what he said.
He said, look, we exchange the American dream for cheap foreign baubles.
You know, big screen TVs and these baubles, these, oh, we got this gadget, you got that gadget.
But you look at where you live and you look at your town and you look how it's completely devastated.
And it doesn't take You don't have to drive far from any major city to find these towns that have just been completely devastated.
I'm not just talking about in the Rust Belt or Appalachia.
They're everywhere.
We were in the Northeast the other day.
We saw it.
You can go anywhere in the country and see this stuff.
Just signs of American devastation that are all over the place.
But I will say, though, when you drive through the Rust Belt right now, particularly parts of Ohio, it looks like they lost a war.
And in a sense, they kind of did.
It does, because they did.
They lost, and economic war can sometimes cause as much pain.
I actually had an economist once equate this to me, and he said, actually, casualties in war, especially the dead, they're gone, Jack, and that's it.
They're not there to suffer through the consequences and the aftermath.
economic casualties are worse in a sense because they are, and now they have a lifetime of pain that they have to suffer and go through.
It's like the scars of people who have mental injuries from conflict, right?
It's almost the same thing.
But again, I feel like the White House, and there's really just no way to sugarcoat this.
I feel like they need a Bannon-like figure to sit with the president for 10 to 15 minutes every day, whatever it may take, get everybody else out of the Oval Office because they don't understand the Trump coalition.
Let's cut through it and let's just talk.
Let's just talk frank here.
Let me ask you a question.
The press conference the other day, did you feel like he conveyed any of what we're talking in that press conference at all?
Or was there a whole bunch of distracting issues that will be the soundbites And that will be the clips that are all over social media.
Because remember, I mean, social media is a powerful force.
It's not like you have to spend an entire hour speaking about this stuff.
But if there's not something in there that directly addresses their fears, it's not a way.
This is big.
This is very important.
Rich, what you just said is very important.
We got a quick break.
Let's hold on that.
We'll come right back to it.
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We're getting into Liberation Day, which is coming up tomorrow here.
We've got Election Day today in Wisconsin and Florida, and they're already voting in Wisconsin and Florida.
But tomorrow is Liberation Day, the day the tariffs hit, and President Trump is going big.
He's saying tariffs on every single country around the world.
And look, Rich, we've spent every day here on the program going through how what President Trump is doing is fundamentally restructuring the global economy.
No more of this idea where American IP will be outsourced to the Lao-Beijing of China, where they're going to be the global factory, and the people in the middle, the multinational firms, the IP holders, Silicon Valley is a huge part of this as well.
They're the ones making billions and possibly even trillions of dollars, honestly, if you look at it market on market, off of this entire situation.
But who gets screwed over?
The people in the middle.
Why does Detroit look the way that it does?
And Chicago?
And oh, by the way, why does Shanghai and Shenzhen and Ningbo and all these cities in China, these port cities, why do they look the way they do?
Because that's your money.
That's your money that went over there.
That's where all the wealth is going.
It was a systematic wealth transfer.
So yes, there's going to be, look, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, rich, it's like, it's like what you said before, when you're getting off an addiction, when you're getting off an addiction, you're going to have to go through withdrawal.
There's, you're going to have to take your medicine.
And this is going to be the medicine, but it's going to be better on the other end.
Talk to me through some other messaging that you've seen regarding this.
Well, it's also a national security issue, and he doesn't ever phrase it like this, but it should be.
If you remember COVID, for example, okay?
During COVID, we had issues finding various medications, even the ingredients to medications, and it impacted antibiotics and other drugs.
If you look, of course, pharmaceutical companies and the industry in general is on that list, then that absolutely should be a selling point, by the way.
So are rare earth materials, minerals, and so are components in ICBMs, the stuff that makes up microchips, right?
All of this absolutely falls under the purview of national security.
And during COVID, if the Chinese wanted to stick it to us, Jack, they could have if there's another epidemic.
And we needed certain drugs like antibiotics or whatever it may be.
They could stick it to us.
They could hurt us because they have control over our supply chain in areas where we need to make sure we are prepared in the event of a catastrophe.
Once upon a time, America had it all.
America had all of it.
But we do not anymore.
Based on this idea, and this is what globalism believes, that if we outsource our wealth to other areas around the world, we can stabilize the world.
That we had World War II, we had World War I, dating back to the 20th century, because other countries weren't economically stable.
And basically, folks, the Chinese know what to do with your money better than you do.
And they can make the world a better place, and they can distribute prosperity, and that's going to stabilize everything, and we'll all hold hands and sing kumbaya.
And that is not what happened with outsourcing our wealth.
The only thing we did outsource are our dreams, the integrity that comes with work, right?
Our communities, the solidarity of our communities.
We were talking about this before the show.
You can drive through basically any state in the mid-Atlantic, in the Midwest, and it's not just isolated in those areas, it's everywhere.
And you can find hollowed out communities.
Well, with that came broken families, Jack, with that came addictions, with that came Yeah, and then we got a quick break,
Rich. It's the death of the spare, and then on the back of that they got told, oh, and by the way, the only way we can fix this is mass importation of Haitians and Venezuelans and H1, whatever, whatever age, I don't care, right?
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What if we just rebuild our cities for our own people?
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We're doing a big talk about the economic reconstructuring and reconfiguring of the global order.
No more getting ripped off by China.
No more having our jobs outsourced.
Tariffs are the way through.
People have to understand, tariffs are a tool to balance trade.
That's what it's about.
So when you hear, and by the way, Rich, I love this, you know, there's so many Republicans, you can find out very quickly who the Republicans are that are in the pocket of Wall Street and who the pockets are that, you know, who are in the pocket of like the Chamber of Commerce, the Club for Growth, all this stuff, because they're the ones that, oh, tariffs are a tax, tariffs are a tax, tariffs are a tax.
They'll never sit down and point out that the way tariffs work is it's a tax on the foreign We're
good to go.
Like, I get it.
This is gonna hurt.
And who's this gonna hurt?
The big box stores?
The Walmarts?
It's gonna hurt.
Amazon? Oh, I'm so sorry, Jeff Bezos.
It's gonna do all that, but here's the dirty little secret.
Why do Amazon and Walmart and all these other companies run around and work so well?
Because everybody likes shopping there!
Because it's cheaper!
Because as it turns out, People do base their decisions on economics, and certainly people do that in states and in areas that are more working class.
And so if President Trump wants to continue to win over this population and continues to win over this, look, I get it, by the way.
I think it's smart to do this as far away from the, I know we have special elections today, but as far away from the midterms as possible, because hopefully things will have readjusted between now and then.
But Rich, walk me through, Walk me through some of this because there is there is gonna be pain and it's not just the polling but there is gonna be look there's gonna be prices that go up because as it turns out we have foreign goods that have completely Infiltrated our country for such a long time and I think I think I like that idea infiltration invasion National security.
These are all things that we can use to understand that right?
It's it's like if it's not made in America, that means it's made somewhere else That means there's something wrong with it And that used to be the attitude that we had.
But by the way, all these people, the tariffs attacks, the tariffs attacks, they're all the same people who argue about tax avoidance behavior, right?
So they don't see any plausible potential for tariff avoidance behavior.
Of course, people are going to start to try to avoid them if they're in place for as long as they are.
And they're all also the same people who argued in the first Trump administration, When he did engage in the use of tariffs on a much more limited basis, granted it was, that there would be a spike in the CPI because of automobiles, right?
Do you remember that?
Of course, that never happened.
And the CPI was basically flat the entire time.
I've seen people use Honda and other automobile companies as an example when the truth is some of the parts go back and forth over the border jack, but for the most part, stuff that we are buying here, they could change some of their operations up to avoid those tariffs.
And you'd look at 60 or 70% that's already being manufactured here anyway.
So yeah, I just think again that the bottom line is there is some, of course, some danger because if it's not explained to people, That being said, we've pulled this a lot.
And when you ask people whether or not they support tariffs as a use for trade negotiations, to restructure the economy, for national security, they definitely demonstrate the ability to deal with the pain on the short term, of course, not very long, but on the short term in order to achieve the outcome that they want.
And if you were to give people the option between keeping the status quo Uh, and, and, and, and this, a short term chain, you know, a short term pain that ends with long-term gain.
They'll pick that.
They will.
It's just that, again, the messaging is so critical and so important moving forward, explaining to people, because the prices will go up on some stuff.
You know it, and I know it, right?
The price of eggs, that's all, that's all very well and good.
And I understand that's the talking point, but you can't spend your time talking about eggs, right?
Uh, if the real issue is with the time they go to purchase their next vehicle.
Or whatever it may be, right?
So they have to make sure that they're talking about relevant stuff here.
And I keep going back to that because obviously what I'm saying is that I don't think they're doing a good enough job doing that right now.
And I also wouldn't undersell the American public.
So part of that is on the White House to make that message clear.
And the American public will stay with you if they understand you have a clear vision for the future.
I guess that's what I'm trying to say here.
Look, the clear vision for the future, and I think that really sets the stage, right?
The clear vision for the future, it's made in America.
Made in America is coming back.
Imagine your town not being surrounded by migrants and actually having jobs that can, by the way, every time I see one of the jobs that you can go to that are good and a place That you'll want to work at for 20 years, for 30 years.
Not just some place that pays the bills, but a place that'll actually take care of you.
You know, I talked to both, both my parents had jobs like that.
A lot of people in that generation had jobs like that.
And those jobs, that, that whole world doesn't exist anymore where a company will take care of you and send you back to school and do all this stuff.
Maybe the military.
I think it's like the only organization that's still like that in America, but.
You know, we were talking to Kenny Cody here the other day, the New Opinion editor over at Human Events, and he said, you know, you talk to a lot of people and they talk about the greatest generation, the greatest generation, you know, so much awe and all the movies about it.
He goes, you know what President Trump is trying to do?
He's trying to make the next greatest generation.
I love that.
I thought that was so good.
The next great generation.
We're going to have that coming up.
The Zoomers could be the next greatest generation.
Which, by the way, when you say that to a Zoomer, it's so jarring because they're one of the most cynical generations that has ever existed.
And I think that's one of the reasons, actually, that you saw so many Zoomers come on board to support President Trump because they're so upset with the way things are in this country.
They really want actual change, not just like some fake Phony Barack Obama promises they want someone who goes against the grain, and that's Donald Trump.
But at the same time, that means they want to actually see that.
But I don't know that they've internalized that things actually can get better.
They really and actually can get better.
So Rich, when you look out at those populations, because I see it, and you know what?
The flip side of that cynicism is the Luigi's.
It's the cult of Luigi.
It's the populist left.
It's them going so in the opposite direction, saying, oh, you know what?
I don't like the system, so let's burn it all down.
The Tesla terrorists, the dealerships, all the rest of it like that.
So Rich, how do you get this across?
Let's say you're someone who is in college now, is just coming online in the jobs market and say, whoa, what's going on?
All these prices are going up.
What do I do?
Well, I just point out.
Forget about how much more an automobile is going to cost.
Too many of them couldn't afford one right now.
This is what the Cato and the American Enterprise class are all missing.
They can't afford one right now.
So you think they're going to care much about a tariff levied on a car they can't afford?
They want a different system that pays them enough where they're honest, they go to work, put in a certain amount of time every day that is expected of every normal human being, and they can come home and take care of themselves that way.
get out of that four-year college, that they're going to be able to do something with that degree.
Or if they don't, Jack, and they try to get into a trade again.
We live in a world like that.
Vogue has completely disappeared from this world.
So not everyone is even in that generation.
Not everybody is even, I don't want to say college material, but that's not their path.
That's not their destination in life.
There's something else that they can do.
I think Or their work ethic.
The problem is the opportunity that's out there.
It's not there for everyone.
So again, even if they were to, even if they were to see a price on a car, what does it matter if you can't afford that car?
I really think people need to understand that.
And that's what, that's really the message they have to move.
They have to going forward and trying to rebuild a society to the point where everybody has access to things that right now, so few do.
It's that simple.
I love everything you just said there, because it's like, we're actually going to do something that helps you out.
I saw something trending the other day, I don't know if it was Warren Buffett or someone, it said something like, oh, why don't you go buy a house for $20,000?
I was like, whoa, what?
And he was like, in some interview, and it's going viral right now, and it's like, they actually think like that, Rich.
They're that out of touch.
They think that's what a house costs.
And by the way, the generation, that greatest generation, when a house still did cost $5,000 to $20,000, they paid a ton on taxes.
A ton.
And by the way, this is not new to the United States.
It's just new to this generation.
The United States survived and protected itself as a young republic using merciless systems, tariffs, and protectionist policies.
This is not novel, right?
All of these people who are against tariffs are all founder-quoters, right?
They all harken back to the Constitution, and that's It's just inaccurate.
I mean, we were, of course, free market domestically, but on a foreign policy basis, it was national security.
No, it's all changed.
It's all changed.
It's all shifted.
Zoomers feel it.
Millennials feel it.
President Trump is working to actually set things right.
I'll be right back.
Keep in with Ben Staley.
Mark is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen. Everybody.
People sometimes think that under the Biden administration that he was simply asleep at the switch.
He wasn't asleep.
They were asleep at the switch.
It was a massive, large-scale program to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the American people and make it a permanent, deep blue, one-party state from which there would be no escape.
Look, if I hadn't seen this myself, I'm not sure I'd have believed it.
I went through it myself and mapped it, and Elon is right.
This is true.
The defaults in the system from social security to all of the benefit programs have been set to max inclusion, max pay for these people and minimum collection.
That's what's happening.
We found 1.3 million of them already on Medicaid, as an example.
All right, Jack Pacific, we're back.
Final segment here, Human Events Daily.
We're on with Rich Barris, the People's Pundit.
We're talking about Liberation Day.
And the fact of the matter is this.
The American people are getting, finally, Right, Rich, maybe we need one of those great, you know, one of those great populist slogans like, you remember, of course, we had the New Deal, we had the Square Deal, the Fair Deal, maybe the Fair Deal,
I don't know if anyone's done that before, the Fair Deal, but finally the American worker is getting a fair deal from the American government for the first time since globalism took off and really took root all the way back in the late 1980s.
The idea is we're going to bring those jobs back.
We're going to have things made in America again.
This will revitalize our country.
It will revitalize all of it.
Because here's what happened.
The cost of the convenience has stripped this country of its soul.
It stripped our cities and towns of its soul.
And President Trump is going to restore that through this tariff policy.
What say you, Rich Barris?
Well, first of all, I say that you just said exactly what the White House needs to say.
Now, that is the language you need to speak in.
What are all of those phrases that you just brought up, and what do they all have in common?
They're all iterations of popular sayings and popular vocabulary of their day, okay?
Those are all Those are all like twists and plays on words that were used by the average person in their time, right?
So what was Roosevelt doing?
He was speaking to the Roosevelt coalition.
That's what he was doing.
So while I love the clip that I just heard, that's great.
But those are speaking to like new converts, Silicon Valley types who jumped off of the liberal bandwagon, this go around, this last go around anyway, in 24. They're all, you know, they're speaking to their audience.
What I'm saying is you just cannot miss out on your core audience.
I'm not talking about the MAGA base.
I'm talking about—because they're never going to leave, Jack.
They're never going to leave.
I mean, it doesn't matter.
The base of MAGA is with Donald Trump and with the agenda.
It's this group that made up—that's like an addition to the base—that made up their bunch of normies, their MAHA, right?
There were people who were attracted to Kennedy in the beginning of the campaign.
And there are also people who are just average people normally not represented by the political system and don't even participate or engage in the political system because of a lot in large part because of what you just said.
The system for the last.
You know, ever since the 90s, in many cases with these voters that we talked to, that may have been the last time they voted for a president was during Bill Clinton, right?
And since then, this system has just completely been working against them, right?
It has stripped them of their dream.
It's stripped them of their ability to believe.
And no one has been talking to them.
They're natural MAGA, they are, but they're not MAGA in the activist sense, or they're not representing MAGA on their social media accounts or in their You know, or in their communities.
Those are the people that I'm talking about and that I'm concerned of getting left behind here in the messaging.
And what you just said, really, I mean, honestly, you just nailed it.
You have to speak in those terms to reach these people because you have to keep them believing, right?
If you want them to keep voting too, you have to keep them believing.
They're smart enough to understand what's going on here.
And I think a big part of what I want to say is don't sell these people short.
They're not stupid.
They're smart enough to understand a tariff strategy.
Don't insult them by giving them the typical Washington speak or the typical White House messaging or whatever.
And that goes for Republicans in the Senate and the House as well.
Don't insult them by doing that.
Speak to them the way you would speak to your neighbor or your buddy and just be honest with them and they'll stick with you.
Don't let the media tell them what's coming.
And what's in store for them.
You have to do that yourself.
And then they will, they'll trust you.
And they'll believe you and they'll stick with you going forward.
As long as what you say to expect and what you tell them is on the horizon is true.
Because listen, Jack, I mean what you're saying here.
That's the bottom line, and we said it in the last segment.
You can either stick with the status quo and watch it all go down slowly, right?
Because we're all on this sinking ship.
Or you can try something different with short-term pain, a little bit of sacrifice, and we can all come out on the other end of this thing stronger together.
You know, that's my way of saying it.
It may not even be the best way, right?
But that is what you effectively have to tell them.
And again, They'll understand.
You know what?
You know what would be great?
Like a national address, but not from the Oval Office, from like a factory.
Get out of the Oval Office!
With a bunch of union guys around them, the construction hats, the work boots, and saying, Mr. Trump, it's time to do this.
We are embarking on a national experiment.
A great experiment and a great campaign to restore our country, to restore the dignity of the American worker, and we are doing this For the American workers and the American families.
I think if you frame it that way, it's all gonna work.
Rich Barris, where can people follow you, brother?
