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NATALISM AND THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF MASCULINITY

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
We are here live in Austin, Texas.
Today is March 28, 2025.
I don't know about you guys, but it's a Friday in Lent.
I can't eat meat, so I was thinking I might need some eggs.
I might need some omelets.
I was thinking, what can I do?
Where can I go?
Who could make me some great eggs?
And I figured I could have a chat.
With the raw egg nationalist himself, he's here in Austin for some reason.
But I got to ask you, you know, we've never even done this on the show live together.
What are you cooking up today?
What am I cooking up today?
Well, it's the beginning of the NAFEL conference in Austin, Texas.
Meet and greet, I think, today and then the full program tomorrow.
I'm speaking at the dinner tomorrow, but today I'm just hanging out with you in South Austin.
Folks, I want scrambled eggs.
I'm thinking avocados or no avocados?
Small doses.
Small doses of avocados.
All right.
So we're here for, that's right, we're here for the Natal Conference.
We're here for Natalism 2025.
Terry Schilling will be here from the American Principles Project.
It's going to be an incredible event.
P.G. Keenan is coming by as well, so many others.
And what this is all about is an understanding that if we want to save the West, if we want to save Western civilization, then simply saying, okay, we're going to deport the ne'er-dwells, deport the illegals, that's one piece of it.
But we do have another angle for civilizational safety, security, and preservation, and that, of course, families!
We need to increase the amount and the rate of which...
Our citizens are having families and creating family formation.
So we've all come together.
And I wasn't sure if I was going to come, but here I am.
And we are going to put it all in together.
So we're going to have a discussion with Roy Nationalist as well as the founder of the conference coming up in just a little bit.
The conference kicks off tomorrow.
But we are going to be here.
The media, by the way, are not too happy about this conference, are they?
No, they're not.
They weren't happy about last year's conference either.
They really don't like people talking about.
Alternatives to mass immigration, and that's precisely what this is.
And that's so key, what you're talking about, because the mass immigration argument always comes when AOC talks about this.
The Democrat, Joy Reid, when she was around, they always talk about, well, you're not having enough kids, you're not having enough kids, that's why we need the immigrants, that's why we need mass immigration, and the libertarians get on board, the multinationals, the Wall Street Journal.
But it turns out that there is another way to save your country.
Rather than going down the road of civilizational suicide, that is mass third-world immigration.
Stay tuned.
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I have to ask you, Ron with Roig Nationalist, he is the author of a number of books.
The Ex-Benedict Option, you run Man's World, Digest, and the new book is Last Man.
It's the liberal death of masculinity.
Liberalism and the death of masculinity.
But there is also something that I've noticed that everybody just seems kind of sick since the end of COVID.
Its illnesses have taken on a life of its own and people don't quite seem to be...
As well as they were prior to COVID.
And I think there's a lot that goes into that.
And Nicole Shanahan has talked about how there clearly is an international fertility crisis that's going on.
And I think you can't have that discussion if you don't talk about the COVID experience and the rollout of these experimental vaccines.
To start from, what do you think, though, when you've written a book, you talk about these issues all the time, if you had to put a factor on all of this, is there any one driving element that you think really is the main culprit for the low fertility rates and birth rates in the West?
Well, one of the things that I focus on in the book and that I focused on in the Tucker Carlson documentary that I was in, so I was in this Tucker Carlson documentary in 2022, the last, sorry, the death of the end of men.
The end of men, that's it.
It's been long and fair that I've forgotten.
That was about testosterone decline, fertility decline.
And it takes the problem largely as the result of exposure to these toxic chemicals called endocrine disruptors.
And they're everywhere.
They're in personal care products.
They're in food, water.
And the Maha movement talks about this all the time.
Got to see Secretary Kennedy just yesterday at the White House.
Yeah, exactly.
Actually, we have someone now as Head of Health and Human Services, RFK Jr., who understands, actually, the extent to which the modern environment is poisonous, the extent to which these chemicals are affecting our reproductive systems.
So, yeah, I mean, that, I think, is a fundamental cause of fertility decline today, is exposure to toxic chemicals.
There are social...
There are political causes as well.
I mean, it's a complicated problem, fundamentally.
But yes, the toxic exposures, I think, need...
Need more exposure, as it were.
You know, we need to know more about them.
And thankfully, we've got RFK Jr. now in a position where he can speak to the nation.
Well, I think it's incredible.
And I say here on the show all the time that when we had Richard Barris, we did a polling update a couple of days ago.
And I keep pointing out that the MAGA movement is the second most popular political movement in America today.
The Maha movement is actually the most popular movement.
This is why for the Trump administration.
Them actually delivering on so many of these issues is absolutely key to bringing this all back on board.
And the coalition that President Trump put together politically, it gave people who may have been on the fence on deportations or a variety of other issues, law and order, that President Trump had championed to say, you know what, I can get on board with that.
Because that's something that, you know, your crunchy suburban mom actually does care about.
Exactly, yeah.
I mean, this is a non-partisan issue, or it should be.
Completely. I mean, it's an indictment, actually, of the whole sort of polarisation process that's taken place in recent years, certainly in the last decade, that actually being healthy has become a right-wing issue, supposedly.
It's not.
I mean, everybody should care about their health.
And one of the things that was very good about the Tucker Tarzan documentary, The End of Men, was that it started with archival footage of John F. Kennedy saying, Americans are getting fat.
Americans are unhealthy.
We need a national health drive.
We need to get back to young people being fit and healthy because the future of the nation depends on them.
And that was a very good way, actually, of forestalling criticism from the left, from the mainstream media.
Actually, the documentary was a light-wing sort of thing.
And he was a Democrat, one of their most famous Democrats.
Exactly. And in fact, and you compare that, by the way, with what Pete Hegseth has talked about.
And you look at the recruiting in the United States and they'll say that children or, you know, graduate high school graduates, 17, 18 year olds aren't fit enough to even they're not fit for military service.
So that's actually a national security issue when it comes down to it, because guess what?
The Russians are fit for military service.
The Chinese are fit for military service.
But the fact that Pete goes out, I think he's out in the Philippines right now.
He's on this Indo-Pacific trip.
But he's hit Guam.
He's hit Hawaii.
He's now in the Philippines, the first island chain there outside of China.
But he goes and he does this PT.
He does the physical training.
And you compare that to, say, Lloyd Austin or General Milley.
And I actually went down.
I spent way too many hours doing this.
I was digging through the Pentagon archives to see if I could find one image of General Milley performing some kind of physical.
I couldn't find it.
Couldn't find a single his entire career.
Well, I mean, the thing is, of course, you've got that iconic picture of General Milley with the face visor.
That was Austin.
That was Austin.
Yeah, Austin, sorry.
Yeah, Lloyd Austin with the face visor, you know, at the height of the pandemic.
I mean, what an image to project of American military power and American military priorities.
You know, the defense secretary is so scared of her.
Right. Of something that's a little bit worse.
Did you see Trump talking to the guy with the mask up today?
He said, you can still wear a little mask?
That makes you feel good?
Okay. Wonderful.
I mean, just like, you know, a little rise in my mom's face.
Okay. Makes you feel good.
They've become adult pacifiers.
Yeah, they really have.
I mean, when I was on my way, actually, here, then I saw...
Some sort of like medical center, and it said COVID-19 testing this way.
And it's incredible.
I mean, people are still taking it seriously, but they are.
Well, and what's incredible, though, is they'll take all that seriously.
And yet when you have Robert F. Kennedy Jr., you have so many other issues that are out there, so many people talking about these things.
The obvious, you know, people would talk about, okay, here's the product, you know, baby formula.
Use that as a great example.
You know, here's the formula in the United States.
Here's the formula in the EU.
Why does this have so many more ingredients on it than this one does?
And as a matter of fact, whenever when we had our children, Tanya was sourcing all of the baby formula back from Eastern Europe because it doesn't have any of that.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's a big thing.
And luckily, RFK Junior fairly recently.
Although I should admit, after we did things the traditional way.
Yeah. Well, I think if you combine breast milk and formula, then that's okay.
But it's these children.
Who are exclusively reared on the worst kind of soy formula, for example, that really don't do very well.
And it sets them up for a lifetime of consuming processed food.
Because that's really what the worst kinds of formula are, like processed foods.
Well, and we should have Tanya on because she would always tell me about this.
And when we come back in the next segment, you can talk about it as well.
Because she always says when she came to America that she felt that the food was wrong.
This does not taste like the food that I've eaten my entire life in Eastern Europe.
This doesn't taste like the meat doesn't taste real.
The bread doesn't taste real.
To enter her mind, she couldn't think of a better word for it.
It just tasted plastic.
Tasted plastic.
So we're going to get into that.
And this is what you're talking about.
These toxins that have been put into our foods.
and is it having a problem on fertility birth rates around the West?
We'll be right back.
We're on Draw Egg Conditionalist.
She's a PhD, believe it or not.
I should have said that at some point.
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Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
These are influencers.
And they're friends of mine.
Jack Rusovic.
Where's Jack?
He's done a great job.
All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live with the raw egg nationalist, also known as Dr. Charles Cornish Dale.
You're a doctor.
What? You're a PhD.
And probably some correspondence course, not any university of note, right?
Where'd you go again?
Just the oldest university in the English-speaking world, Oxford.
So he's an Oxford PhD.
So, folks, you have an Oxford PhD who is telling you that you need to pay attention.
I want to get in, though.
We've only got five minutes in this block.
Tell me about this book that you've put together.
Is it out yet or is it coming out?
It's coming out, I believe, at the end of April from the press.
Incredible, incredible work.
We love the guys at Passage Press.
We'll be having dinner with them later tonight with the great Lómez, who's always a regular here on the show, has become a regular.
What is the overall message of your book?
Why is liberalism tied to the death of masculinity in The Last Man?
Yeah, this is an interesting question.
It's a deep philosophical question as well.
It's a Nietzsche reference.
It is a Nietzsche reference via Fukuyama, actually.
So it's a reference to Fukuyama's history thesis.
So basically, Fukuyama has this thesis about the victory, famous...
He has a thesis about the victory of liberal capitalism over communism, and he's commonly portrayed as the kind of great apologist of liberal democracy and capitalism.
But actually, his book, The End of History, is a warning.
It's a warning about what happens to human beings when you have this economic system, this political system, capitalism, liberal democracy, that doesn't actually allow men fully to be met.
Sounds like a loss of vitality, vitalism.
Yes, yes.
So he says that, look, under a liberal democratic system, you can be recognized as equal if you were fellow men, but you can't be recognized as better.
And actually, as the ancient Greeks saw, you know, that's a part of what inspires men to do.
Or, as President Trump would say, greatness.
Yeah, precisely.
Because when Make America Great Again...
It came down the escalator.
We're coming up on the 10-year anniversary of that, by the way.
That was the phrase, that word, that concept of greatness had been completely removed from the American lexicon.
Yes, yeah, precisely, yes.
Not a word that you heard for a long time.
And yet we have Alexander the Great, Pope Gregory the Great.
It is a title, Peter the Great.
These are titles that throughout history men have aspired to.
Exactly. I mean, so liberalism, I think, in itself, this kind of triumph of liberal democracy post-1989 poses a kind of civilizational question about the value of masculinity.
But then what I'm saying is, look, there's this kind of political problem, but beneath it, making it far worse, is a biological problem.
And that is in particular.
Massive decline in fertility, male fertility, testosterone levels in particular.
So it's well substantiated.
We're saying the testosterone, the low testosterone levels that we're seeing across the West are actually a symptom of what's going on.
They're both a symptom and a cause, I think.
So I think that, yes, I mean, if you don't allow men, within a political system, you don't allow men to express themselves fully as men.
Yes, that drives testosterone.
And that's how you get...
Tim Walz and Joe Biden and Monk Carney, the Canadian.
He's basically Joe Biden North, by the way.
He's basically Joe Biden North.
He was the exchequer in England, right?
He was.
Prior to this, he did a pretty good job there, right?
England's really great now.
And so they brought him back over to Canada.
It's so ridiculous.
You put together, and we can all realize it.
We realize that when you see the Justin Trudeaus, when you see the Joe Bidens, there is something missing.
From all of them.
Tell people when the book comes out, where can they go to follow you?
Get more access to the book and your writings.
So the book comes out at the end of next month, I believe, via Passage Press.
The website is passage.press.
If you're interested in my work, then, of course, follow me on Twitter at BabyGravy9, the infamous handle.
I have a sub stack, rawegstack.com.
And I'm also the founder and editor-in-chief of Mansworld Magazine, which is like a sort of Playboy magazine for the massively online internet generation.
That's Mansworld.
It's just the best social media now.
Full stop.
It's everything you need.
You can reach out to everyone.
There are battles.
You can hash everything out.
It's incredible.
And you also, by the way, you have a recipe book too, right?
I do, yeah.
The Raw Egg Nationalism Cookbook.
I think I have a copy of that.
I think you do.
Tanya and I have a copy of this.
So we'll have to go back to Raw Egg Nationalism Cookbook.
So get healthy, get fit.
Dr. Charles.
Absolutely pleasure.
It's a pleasure.
Finally got him on the show, folks.
You finally got him on.
All right, stay tuned.
We'll be right back with the founder of the NATO Conference 2025.
Hey, Jack.
Where is Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulis' doofus dads, right?
I mean, like, that's all we ever see.
And I'm okay with poking fun at dad.
But it's every show.
And you and I talked about it from Homer Simpson, Peter Griffin.
And those are funny, but it's every show.
And I think what, and I want to get your take on this, what concerns me is my sons, what do they watch on television?
Whether it's Disney Channel, Nickelodeon, or all shows, what they're seeing, and media's powerful, that dad's an idiot.
Dad's a doofus.
I hope I'm giving another example at home.
Maybe not all the time, but I'm trying.
And look, the best example they're ever going to get is from you, because they're going to learn from you.
A lot of the dads I talked to said the same thing.
They said, you know, pop culture does give kids messages.
Some boys out there are going to think that that's the low bar he's expected to rise to.
Some girls out there will grow up to become women who have very low expectations for how good fathers their husbands will be.
All right, Jack, here we are live.
We are...
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We are here in Austin, Texas for the start of the Natal Conference 2025, all about making babies great again and making babies literally too.
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How are you?
Great to be here, man.
So, what was the inspiration for putting together a conference like this?
What drove you to want to get into this sort of issue set?
Yeah, so I run a fraternity called Exit with a group of guys, and we were watching Tucker Carlson's documentary, The End of Men, which featured Roy Ag National.
That's right.
And we thought, you know, we knew several of those people and we thought there's a bigger conversation to be had where it's, yes, I think the medical...
So this is all Tucker's fault.
It's all Tucker's fault.
It's all coming down.
We tried to grab him.
I think he's out of town.
It's hard to pin that guy down.
It is indeed.
So we thought, instead of just the medical side of it, what if we talked about, you know, the challenge of dating, the challenge of getting married, the challenge of staying married, of raising a family?
There's all kinds of dimensions to this problem, and so we thought we'd just bring everybody together that we possibly can to address it.
And so we had our last one December 2023, and now we're doing it again this weekend.
Well, this is incredible because, you know, and something that I do plan to address, and thank you for allowing me to come and speak at the dinner tonight, is that, you know, there's a civilizational issue, but there's a phrase that we say at church, even in the Latin mass churches.
That I think applies here that we say, if your church ain't crying, it's dying.
If your church ain't crying, it's dying.
Well, guess what?
If your civilization ain't crying, it's dying.
The Chinese understand this.
India understands this.
Russia understands this.
Countries all around the world.
Hungary, of course, they all understand this.
That if you want your civilization to continue, you must...
It seems like a very basic thing to say and probably something not that radical.
It's something I think we all sort of inherently understand when we're children.
And yet something sort of happens as we get older where we just sort of forget that and run away with it.
We've been talking about the Snow White debacle here over the last couple of weeks.
But even then, in a traditional story, the archetypal story of Snow White, the woman's virtue that she is protecting from the evil queen, who has then come and saved by a knight.
I mean, that's it right there.
That's it right there.
There's a reason these traditional stories are handed down to us for hundreds of years and obviously even thousands of years of the story of the damsel in distress in the night.
There's a reason we have that, and yet modernity has sort of shattered all of it.
Yes, absolutely.
I think that the way that things are breaking apart, it's messing with people's just fundamental understanding of themselves.
And I think child-rearing is being treated nowadays like when I mentioned that I have six kids.
You get treated like it's a weird hobby for some subculture of people.
And it's as close to the root of the human experience as you can get.
It's the most fundamental human thing.
Having five or more children was completely normal up until 70 years ago.
Right, right.
Up until the pill, basically.
Yeah, and so I would almost turn it on its head and I would say like...
I'm not having kids to save civilization.
I'm going to save civilization for my kids.
I love that.
That often gets misconstrued.
People are looking at these bar charts and line graphs and you're trying to make the data get the numbers right.
That's not what it's about at all.
It's about our families.
The problem is that all these bar charts and data are showing us that there's a massive problem coming for our kids.
When I look at...
The dating situation or how many millennials, how many Gen Z are actually having kids.
I'm thinking about my kids who are kind of next at bat.
And like, I couldn't possibly just sit on my hands and not try to build something better for them.
And so that's what we're about is getting people together to address this problem.
You know, I'm not a PhD.
I don't pretend to have the answers on any of this.
That's why I wanted to bring together as broad of a group of people as I possibly could.
To look at it from every angle we can think of and try to find a solution.
Well, and it's also, and we talked about at the beginning of the program here, that this has been an issue that it's not, by the way, just us looking at the stats and the numbers.
No, it's the bean counters, it's the bureaucrats, and it's the multinational corporations.
And so their response is, when they saw this happening, when they saw this decline in the birth rates coming, what they decided to then do was open the floodgates and say, let's import as many third-worlders as possible or just anybody who wants to come into the country.
Obviously, there are...
Priorities to this, you can see European migration is very, very hard to come in if you're European, but if you're someone from anywhere in the global south, it's perfectly easy to come to the United States.
This is obviously done for economic reasons, because in order to sustain the welfare state that they've created, in order to sustain the global capitalist market that...
Markets that have been created, you need a continual influx of people and this growing and ever-expanding GDP, which of course is always being predicated on simply people as being chogs in some machine somewhere.
And this is where I think MAGA and populism and memoir really all sort of unite because wait a minute.
We're not interchangeable units, as a matter of fact.
We are real people with real history, with real civilization.
And the idea that you can just mix and match everything, it's completely bonkers.
By the way, it's non-biblical for anyone who's ever read the Tower of Babel.
God created the nations.
God created the languages.
And the point being is that this is all ordained for some higher reason.
And when you ask about the breakdowns of so many of these different systems in our country...
Go back to the family unit.
I said this before.
The family unit is the oldest institution that we have evidence for on planet Earth.
You can go back to the...
They find these caves, and the anthropologists, they take up the bones, and what do they find in them?
Right? 100,000 years ago.
200,000 years ago.
Mom, dad, kids.
We break it.
Right. Yeah, and you have to get people back to it.
An understanding of themselves as part of families.
And I think one of the things that's the biggest challenge we face right now is this.
The 4B movement in South Korea, I don't know if you're familiar with this idea that women are using all these...
Yes, well, I mean, implicitly, certainly.
Well, it takes its name.
I have a little spin on the head to this video when viral talking about it because the 4B, so B is Bu, which in Mandarin, similar to the Korean, is No, so the 4 Nose.
Well, the 4 Nose campaign is something that literally came out of the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so it's basically...
Women and men both, and this is, you know, you can see the charts.
It's like women are profoundly radicalizing toward the left and men are sort of slightly declining.
And so the four B's, I'm trying to remember, it's something like it's no marriage, no marriage.
I think it's like don't date.
Yeah, don't date.
And it's completely hard.
Right. And what I see that's the problem with that is like men and women cannot.
We have to think of ourselves as families.
There's so much of that.
Joshua Lysak, who I work with, has been talking about this a lot.
We've won the fight against third-wave feminism, but second-wave feminism is still there.
I think you're exactly right.
It's pit men and women against each other.
That's always been at the kernel of it.
You know, they say it's about women's liberation.
They say it's, oh, you know, women can be in the workforce.
Okay, fine.
But why do you have to be adversarial?
Right. And I think part of the challenge with careerism is this sense of trust.
It's like, you know, because if you're asking a woman to start a family with you, you're asking her to give up sort of some of these productive years of her life.
On the trust that you are going to be there later.
And then, you know, vice versa.
It's like you're investing in this woman and her kids.
Almost like a type of relationship that would require, I don't know, a religious vow.
Like a covenant.
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe these things are there for a reason.
Well, right.
And I guess what I would say is, like, if you want to sort of critique the details of how that went, and maybe it wasn't exactly fair.
You know, in prior generations.
I think that conversation is fine to have, but you can't replace it with nothing.
You can't just jettison the whole thing.
This is Chesterton's fence.
Exactly. This is Chesterton's fence.
If the fence is there, don't take it down until you know the reason that the fence was there in the first place.
Don't remove things in our society, in these building blocks that have got us to the point that we're at now.
Without realizing why they existed to begin with.
So, you know, we were so happy to institute no-fault divorce.
We were so excited to introduce sexual liberation in the 60s through the 70s.
Oh, there's this program, there's this program.
And I remember...
I remember seeing these ads, even when I was in college, that freeze your eggs, right?
You can freeze your eggs.
You can freeze your eggs, and half of them can be for you later, and then the other half will go to be studied.
And then you hear these stories about women who have done this, and they go to get the eggs, and oh, there was a problem with the lab, and no more eggs.
I mean, they were just completely lied to about the liability of that process.
And I mean, it's just devastating to people.
And they hit them during the global financial crisis, so people are in debt, they're trying to figure out what to do.
I mean, I'm very empathetic here.
Yeah, and the reason that goes for like $20,000, $30,000, $40,000 is that almost everybody, including, you know, career women, career-oriented women, want to have a family.
And so what we're about is trying to help people get what they want.
It shouldn't be that radical, folks, but for some reason it is.
Media is very, very upset.
They seem to think that we're all very naughty for getting together to even have these conversations.
And then you listen to it, and it's, yeah, we should have kids.
Wow, what a radical, revolutionary topic.
Perhaps in the midst of modernity, it is a revolutionary topic.
We'll be right back with Kevin Dolan, the founder of Adol Conference 2025 here in Austin, Texas.
Jack is a great guy.
It's a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country cry again.
Amen. You know it.
You feel it.
These guys are creepy.
And yes, just weird as hell.
That's what you see.
A bill that every boy's bathroom will have tampons.
Okay. Hence his name.
Tampon, Tim.
I got an 18-year-old Gus, and I'm without Gus out there.
I was giving Gus my wisdom on what he had done wrong.
You know, I was being...
Because I know these things, right?
I'm the dad.
In the middle of it, he gives me the old...
Says the guy who got his a** kicked by Donald Trump.
And I'm like, okay.
It never fits quite right.
It never fits quite right.
It's not quite right.
How do you give it back?
I think I scare them a little bit, why they spend so much time on it.
No, I'm serious, because I can fix a truck.
They know I'm not bulls**t.
These old white guys who seem to disappoint us on a regular basis in this country.
I think we need a shadow government.
We got ourselves in this mess because we weren't bold enough to stand up and say, you damn right we're proud of these policies.
All right, Jack, so we are back.
Final segment here, Human Events Daily.
We're at the Natal Conference 2025.
We're speaking with Kevin Dolan, the founder of the conference.
Kevin, so we've been covering a lot here.
The decline of families.
Earlier when we were withdrawing nationalists, we talked about the decline of masculinity.
In fact, the attempted assassination of masculinity in this country.
And here's something that I'll actually say, though.
I don't know if I've ever said this publicly.
People will say, well, you know, women are to blame.
Women are to blame.
Women are to blame.
And I disagree.
I actually think it's the men who are to blame here.
And here's why.
Because we've allowed the situation to become the way it is.
Well, you know, I don't even know if it makes sense to couch it in those terms.
It doesn't.
Millions of people on both sides.
But you know what I mean.
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I think it's clearly...
Because we've gone along with it.
We've gone along with it for so long.
And I think that every...
You know, red-blooded dude out there knows that this isn't right.
It isn't right.
Yeah, yeah, I think that's absolutely correct.
And, you know, we do have to get to, I think it's an effort to, like, rethink masculinity because of this issue of trust.
It's like, we've gotten to this point where we don't trust each other.
And so it's like, when you treat somebody like an enemy, it's like, well, then what I want most for that enemy is to be harmless.
Right? And it's like, if you understand.
Men and women as complements and as building something together, then yeah, you want men to be dangerous.
You want men to be strong.
This is what, and I was talking about it before, when you heard these things that the new Snow White actress was saying, playing around with some of these concepts as if it's just nothing.
She doesn't need a man to save her anymore.
The prince was a stalker.
The prince was committed, essentially, she didn't say this, but they were likening it to a form of soft date rape when he goes to give her the kiss, to waken her from the sleeping death with the poison apple, adding on all of this complete nonsense.
But what I don't think she realizes, the actress, I don't think she's just parroting things that she's heard.
But the point is, what they're doing is they're going into these very important head rock concepts of our civilization, of our families, of our children, and they're just completely erasing everything that's been there.
Yeah, and I think there's something deep in the essence of...
The welfare state and feminism and all these things, it's an attempt to eradicate things that rely on trust, that rely on goodwill, that rely on love.
It's trying to build a society without love.
And that's what I see is, you know, because we can't trust each other to love each other.
We can't trust society to have love.
So we have to have these rules.
We have to have these, you know, forced.
Committees and processes and bureaucracy layers.
It's the longhouse, right?
But we've talked about the longhouse on the program before, but this idea of this, you know, gynocentric sort of rule by committee, rule by schoolmarm type process.
But you're right, because what does run through all of it?
It's a lack of love.
And actually, it's like, I think most women, even the ones who are sort of...
I'm exercised about this topic in a negative way.
I think most women want to have family.
Of course!
What it is, is they don't trust the solutions or they don't think it's possible.
And so they see it as like, you're trying to con me, you're trying to scam me, you're trying to get me out.
But that doesn't mean the thing is not something they want.
So it's like, how do you create a situation where people can?
Trust each other and connect with one another.
And be on each other's side.
Even Taylor Swift, after having her heart broken so many times, she still finds her way back to the arms of the Super Bowl champion.
You know, of course they lost to my Eagles, so he wasn't able to get down on one knee like I think he was hoping for.
But he did, right?
You can see that she's upheld as this feminist icon.
And yet every single one of her songs is about...
Wanting love.
It's about a search for love.
Sure, yeah.
And so I think it's so important to see that and to get people together who care about this issue so that they can find a better way.
Where can people go to find out more information about the conference?
Yeah, so it's natalism.org.
Now, will portions of it be posted live?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The main speeches are going to go on YouTube.
Okay, great.
So that'll be up on YouTube.
And there are portions of it that won't, though.
So sorry to all the journalists out there.
Sorry to Jason Wilson at the party.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm so sad.
I'm so sad for you.
I'm so sad that your life is so terrible and horrible and awful and your kids hate you.
Actually, you probably don't even have kids.
Wolfie, thank you so much for joining us here on Human Events Daily.
Boy, we were at the White House yesterday, and now today we're completely off the rails.
Had some pretty good blackout coffee.
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