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WORLD PEACE ON THE TABLE: PUTIN OUTLINES CEASEFIRE CONDITIONS

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	We have a lot of our favorite players cruising around the coast, and we have to be careful.
	And we'll be talking to you.
	It's a very appropriate, really a very appropriate question.
	Thank you very much.
	So when it comes to Greenland, yes, we're not joining the U.S., I would leave that outside for me this discussion because I don't want to direct NATO in that.
	But when it comes to the High North and the Arctic, you are totally right.
	The Chinese are now using these routes.
	We know that the Russians are re-arming.
	We know we have a lack of icebreakers.
	So the fact that the seven outside Russia, there are seven Arctic countries working together on this.
	Under U.S. leadership is very important, to make sure that that region, that part of the world, stays safe.
	And we know things are changing there, and we have to be there.
	Well, we just had an election there the other day.
	Do you see a referendum, a plebiscite, where the people of Greenland would be in a position to decide if they want to become part of the United States?
	Yeah, it was a good election for us, as you know.
	It was not a referendum.
	It wouldn't be called that.
	It was an individual election.
	But the person that did the best is a very good person, as far as we're concerned.
	And so we'll be talking about it, and it's very important.
	Mark mentioned the word icebreaker.
	So we're in the process of ordering 48 icebreakers.
	And Canada wants to know if they could use them.
	I said, well, you know, you've got to pay for them.
	Think of it.
	Canada.
	We pay for their military.
	You know, Canada pays very little for their military because they think we're going to protect them.
	But even with the icebreakers, so we're going to order 48, and Canada wants to be part of the deal.
	I say, you've got to get your own icebreakers.
	I mean, if you're a state, you can be part of the deal.
	But if you're a separate country, you've got to get your own icebreakers.
	Russia, as you know, has about 40 of them.
	And we have one big icebreaker.
	But that whole area is becoming very important.
	For a lot of reasons, the routes are, you know, very direct to Asia, to Russia, and you have ships all over the place, and we have to have protection.
	So we're going to have to make a deal on that, and Denmark is not able to do that.
	You know, Denmark's very far away and really has nothing to do.
	What happens, a boat landed there 200 years ago or something, and they say they have rights to it.
	I don't know if that's true.
	I don't think it is, actually.
	But we've been dealing with Denmark, we've been dealing with Greenland, and we have to do it.
	We really need it for national security.
	I think that's why NATO might have to get involved in a way, because we really need Greenland for national security.
	It's very important.
	You know, we have a couple of bases on Greenland already, and we have quite a few soldiers, and maybe you'll see more and more soldiers go there.
	I don't know.
	What do you think about that, Pete?
	So, don't answer that piece.
	Don't answer that question.
	But we have bases, and we have quite a few soldiers in Greenland.
	Your commitment to NATO. Will anything change?
	Your commitment to NATO. Will anything change?
	Same amount of money?
	Well, I think they made a great step by putting Mark in charge.
	I think, to me, that's a great step, because he and I have seen eye-to-eye on everything for a long time.
	We've been doing this a long time now.
	And so that's a great step.
	You have to keep NATO strong.
	You have to keep it relevant.
	But the biggest thing we have to worry about right now is what's going on right now.
	I think the rest is going to take care of itself.
	I don't see this happening.
	This was a fluke.
	This was something that if we had a competent president, it would not have happened.
	The man was grossly incompetent.
	All you have to do is look and take a look at he signs by autopad.
	Who was signing all this stuff by AutoPen?
	Who would think you'd sign important documents by AutoPen?
	You know, these are major documents you're signing.
	You're proud to sign them.
	You have your signature and something.
	In 300 years, they say, oh, look, can you imagine?
	Everything was signed by AutoPen.
	Almost everything.
	Nobody's ever heard of such a thing.
	So, should have never happened.
	Can you speak tomorrow at the Justice Department about law and order?
	Could you tell us a little bit about that?
	Yeah, we're going to be, I don't know.
	With the Justice Department, we have a great Justice Department.
	Pam Bondi is so fantastic.
	And Todd Blanche.
	And Emil, you got to know him a little bit.
	He was acting for a little while.
	And some other people are incredible in the Justice Department.
	And I consider the FBI to be a part of it, in a sense.
	And Cash is going to be fantastic.
	And all the people.
	He's Dan Bongino.
	I love that.
	I mean, I love that.
	I think Dan is great.
	I think we have unbelievable people.
	And all I'm going to do is set out my vision.
	It's going to be their vision, really, but it's...
	I think that leads to peace.
	That's going to really lead to peace.
	Jack Posobiec, here we are live.
	We're going to welcome you in Hour 3, the Charlie Kirk Program.
	This is Human Events Daily, Salem Radio Network.
	We're going live to our coverage of the White House moments ago, President Trump and the head of NATO. We want to get it over with.
	That's why...
	It was very important what I instructed everybody, including Steve, what we're looking for, to discuss concepts of land, concepts of power plants, because it's complicated.
	You know, you have a whole, you're sort of creating the edge of a country.
	The sad part is that country, if they didn't, if this didn't happen, and it wouldn't have happened, I don't know if they would have to give anything back.
	I guess Crimea.
	You know, I said it last time, Crimea was given by Obama.
	Biden gave them the whole thing and Bush gave them Georgia.
	And Trump didn't give them anything.
	I gave them, you know what I gave them?
	I gave them javelins.
	And the javelins were very effective, as you know.
	I gave them nothing.
	2019. And then also, if you take a look, I was the one that stopped the pipeline going into Europe.
	It was totally stopped.
	Nord Stream 2. Nobody ever heard of Nord Stream 2 before I came along.
	But I got along very well with President Putin.
	I got along with most of them.
	I got along great with President Xi.
	I got along great with Kim Jong-un.
	I got along great with all of them.
	And we had no wars.
	We had no problems.
	We wiped out ISIS in record time.
	General Raisin Cain.
	And he wiped them out.
	And he was going to be our new chief, right?
	He's going to be the head of Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	And he's a highly respected man.
	He's going to be great.
	Pete's going to be fantastic.
	I have no doubt about it.
	We have a great team.
	Really great team.
	Yeah, please.
	Go ahead, please.
	Mr. President, some of our allies have said that they're worried that they could be the next to be attacked by Russia.
	You've spoken directly with the Russian President.
	Do you think those fears are justified?
	No, I don't.
	I think when this gets done, it's done.
	They're going to all want to go home and rest.
	I don't see it happening.
	Nope, I don't see that happening.
	And we'll make sure it doesn't happen.
	Not going to happen, but we'll make sure it doesn't happen.
	Yeah, go ahead, please.
	Leaders from Russia and Iran are heading to Beijing tomorrow to discuss nuclear programs.
	What do you hope to get out of that?
	Well, maybe they're going to talk about non-nuclear programs.
	Maybe they're going to be talking about the de-escalation of nuclear weapons.
	Because, you know, I was talking about that with President Putin very strongly.
	And we could have done something.
	Had that election not been rigged, we would have had something.
	I think I would have made a deal with Putin on de-escalation, de-nuclearization, as they say.
	But we would have de-escalated nuclear weapons.
	Because the power of nuclear weapons is so great and so devastating.
	And right now, Russia and us have by far the most.
	But China will catch us within five years.
	China doesn't have.
	But they're in the process of building, and they build.
	And within four or five years, they'll probably have the same.
	And by the way, this is a Republican tradition.
	Ronald Reagan, when he negotiated with Gorbachev in the 1980s about bringing down the number of nuclear weapons, it's what you have been doing in your first term, and it is important.
	It would be a great achievement if we could bring down the number.
	We have so many weapons, and the power is so great.
	And number one, you don't need them to that extent.
	And then we'd have to get others, because as you know, in a smaller way, Kim Jong-un has a lot of nuclear weapons, by the way.
	A lot.
	And others do also.
	You have India, you have Pakistan, you have others that have them.
	And we'd get them involved.
	But we started off with Russia and us.
	We have by far, actually by far the most.
	And we were going to denuclearize.
	That was going to happen.
	And then we were going to China.
	And I spoke to China.
	I spoke to President Xi about it.
	And he really liked the idea.
	You know, he liked not to spend trillions of dollars building weapons that hopefully he's never going to have to use.
	And because they are very expensive also.
	So that would have been great.
	Okay, one or two more.
	Thank you.
	We're looking at an impending government shutdown Friday midnight.
	Democrats for 30 Years straight have said if there's a shutdown bad things happen.
	Do you anticipate direct negotiations yourself with conference leader of the Democrats, Chuck Schumer?
	If they need me, I'm there 100%.
	Right now it's two or three people.
	If it shuts down, it's not the Republicans' fault.
	You know, we passed a bill where We had an incredible Republican vote.
	We only had one negative vote, a grandstander.
	You know, one grandstander.
	There's always a grandstander in the lot.
	But it was amazing.
	People were amazed that the Republicans were able to vote in unison like that so strongly.
	If there's a shutdown, even the Democrats admit it'll be their fault.
	And I'm hearing a lot of Democrats are going to vote for it, and I hope they do.
	This is an extension.
	But ultimately, we want to vote for one big, beautiful bill where we put the taxes in, we put everything in.
	We're going to have big tax cuts.
	We're going to have tremendous incentives for companies coming into our country and employing lots of people.
	It'll be, I called it, in a rare moment, one big, beautiful bill.
	That's what I like.
	And it seems to be that's where they're heading.
	And we'll have to take care of something to do with Los Angeles.
	A place called Los Angeles almost burned to the ground.
	By the way, I broke into Los Angeles.
	Can you believe it?
	I had a break in.
	I invaded Los Angeles, and we opened up the water, and the water is now flowing down.
	They have so much water, they don't know what to do.
	They were sending it out to the Pacific for environmental reasons.
	Okay, can you believe it?
	And in the meantime, they lost.
	25,000 houses.
	They lost.
	And nobody's ever seen anything like it.
	But we have the water.
	I'd love to show you a picture.
	You've seen the picture.
	The water is flowing through the half pipes.
	You know, we have the big half pipes that go down.
	25 years ago, they used to have plenty of water, but they turned it off for, again, for environmental reasons.
	Well, I turned it on for environmental reasons and also fire reasons.
	And I've been asking them to do that during my first term.
	I said, do it.
	I didn't think anything could happen like this, but they didn't have enough water.
	Now the farmers are going to have water for their land, and the water is in there.
	But I actually had to break in.
	We broke in to do it because we had people that were afraid to give water.
	They were, in particular, they were trying to protect a certain little fish.
	And I say, how do you protect the fish if you don't have water?
	They didn't have any water, so they're protecting a fish.
	And that didn't work out too well, by the way.
	So they have a lot of water going down throughout California, all coming out from the Pacific Northwest, even some from Canada.
	Thank you, Canada, very much.
	I appreciate it.
	Next thing you know, they'll want to turn the water off.
	They want to charge us for the water.
	But it comes up from the Pacific Northwest, and it's...
	It's a beautiful thing to see.
	I mean, it is brimming with water.
	Now, if they would have had that done, you wouldn't have had the damage because the fire would have been put out.
	The fire hydrants would have been loaded.
	The sprinklers in people's living rooms and bedrooms would have been loaded up with water.
	They had no water.
	The government makes them put sprinklers and they had no water in the sprinklers because they had no water.
	So, the water is flowing.
	We're going to have to give a lot of money to Los Angeles to help them.
	And the Democrats are going to want to do that.
	So that's the one thing different.
	And frankly, I think that makes it a lot easier.
	But one of the...
	The big thing is we have the big, beautiful bill.
	We've got to get that done.
	And that will put our country in a position like it's never been in.
	It's a reduction of taxes.
	It's tremendous incentives for companies to come from all over the world into our country.
	It's great environmentally.
	But it's not this environmental scam that we went through, that we all went through.
	It provides for everything.
	It's a big, beautiful bill, and I hope we can get it approved, and that'll be next.
	But in the meantime, we have the continuing resolution, and the Republicans have approved it, and now the Democrats have to approve it, and I hope they will.
	And I think a lot of them, I can tell you, they want to.
	I've spoken to some of them.
	They really want to.
	Their leadership may not want them to.
	And if it closes, it's purely on the Democrats.
	One more?
	On Korea, sir, we've seen tension increasing in the peninsula.
	You've talked about Kim Jong-un.
	Do you have any plans of getting, of reestablishing the relationship you had during the first mandate?
	Well, I would.
	I had a great relationship with Kim Jong-un, North Korea.
	If I wasn't elected, if Hillary got in, you would have had a nuclear war with North Korea.
	He expected it.
	He expected it.
	And they said, oh, thousands of people, no, millions of people would have been killed.
	But I got in.
	We went to Singapore, we met.
	We went to Vietnam, we met.
	We got along really good.
	We had a very good relationship.
	And we still do.
	We still do.
	You don't have that threat that you had.
	I mean, look, when I was running the first time...
	Okay, Jack Posobiec, Hour 3, Charlie Kirksey.
	I won't comment on that, but we had a great success yesterday.
	We have a full ceasefire.
	If it kicks in, we have to see.
	It's up to Russia now.
	We've had a good relationship with both parties, actually, and we'll see.
	We'll be knowing people are going to Russia right now as we speak, and hopefully we can get a ceasefire from Russia.
	If NATO expansion is recognized, at least by Donald Trump, as one of the root causes, then the presence of the troops from NATO countries under any flag...
	In any capacity on Ukrainian soil is the same threat.
	Secondly, we agree with the proposals for the ceasefire, but our position is based on the assumption that the ceasefire would lead to a long-term peace.
	All right, there's a lot going on here.
	There's a lot to unpack.
	So we've got live breaking from the White House and then breaking from Moscow as well.
	We're going to bring in the Salem Radio Network here in just a couple of seconds.
	But I want people to understand that here on the program, we are understanding that peace is on the table.
	World peace is actually on the table.
	But if this goes wrong, if this goes sideways, all of this could slide.
	Into World War III. This is exactly where President Trump is where he is.
	Today, you know, they talk about influencers.
	These are influencers.
	And they're friends of mine.
	Jack Russovic.
	Where's Jack?
	Jack.
	He's done a great job.
	Okay, we're back here.
	Jack Posobiec, we're live now on Real America's Voice.
	We've got the Salem Radio Network in with third hour of the Charlie Kirk audience.
	I want to go bring in and live from the White House, we've got Amanda Head from Real America's Voice.
	Amanda, you were just in there with Secretary General Root as well as President Trump.
	Vladimir Putin also expected to meet with Witkoff, the special envoy to Moscow, just within a few minutes.
	Talk to me about the importance of the stakes of the meeting that was held today and the importance of this ceasefire that is pending.
	Yeah, you know, President Trump has tasked both Whitcoff and Secretary of State Marco Rubio with some big responsibilities.
	I mean, you imagine the cost of having to go overseas and carry on a conversation that has, as you just pointed out, such huge implications.
	And it seems that the negotiations have gone well and that, you know, I always think of President's comments about Putin.
	In a particular way, and there might not be people who understand this because they're not from Alabama, but Jack, you know I went to Auburn and I'm a huge Auburn fan.
	And when I talk about Nick Saban and I talk about how, you know, what a legend he was at Alabama, what a skilled tactician of a football coach he was, it's not because I like the guy, but I'm not stupid and I can admit that he has strengths.
	That is how it is when President Trump talks about Vladimir Putin.
	It would be very, very stupid to underestimate Vladimir Putin And with regards to that strategy, this is something that a few weeks ago I observed in the Oval Office when President Trump had that meeting with Zelensky.
	Zelensky, for whatever you want to call it, an episode, an outburst, whatever...
	It actually made Vladimir Putin look like the reasonable one here.
	So I anticipate that this is going to go in a smooth direction.
	You know, history has taught us, Jack, during President Trump's first term and now, that when peace is on the table, President Trump is the one who typically gets it done.
	Incredible work, Amanda.
	Thank you so much for being there, for covering this.
	For being the voice of the people.
	And to Real America's Voice also for supporting you to be able to put you right there in the White House.
	President Trump breaking the fourth wall and bringing all of the American people in.
	Thanks so much, Amanda.
	Thanks, Jack.
	Good to see you.
	You as well, as always.
	Okay, so folks, we have to understand.
	This is high-stakes negotiations.
	President Trump.
	Meeting with Secretary General Root of NATO also on the same day that he is sending Witkoff over to Moscow.
	Witkoff to sit down with Putin also.
	But Putin isn't alone because what has he done?
	He's brought over President Lukashenko of Belarus.
	They're there in the Kremlin.
	We don't know if Lukashenko will take part in this meeting with Putin, but there's a lot of moving parts to all of this.
	Zelensky, of course, meeting with Rubio and Waltz down in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
	I want to bring in now Gavin Wax of the New York Young Republicans.
	Gavin, when we look at all the moving pieces of this, people say, wow, there's so much going on all at once.
	This is a tightrope act.
	But this is exactly what President Trump was intending all along, isn't it?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I think President Trump has been masterfully maneuvering this conflict, this war that he inherited.
	He's forcing both sides to the table.
	We've seen more movement.
	Towards a resolution, towards peace in the past few weeks than we have in the past few years.
	Obviously, this is a very difficult conflict.
	It's a conflict that goes back well over a decade, back to 2014. And there's many elements here.
	There's a lot of bloodshed and blame to go around.
	But I think President Trump is navigating this as masterfully as one could hope.
	And I think we are in the precipice of achieving some real peace in Europe.
	In our time to quote, I guess, Neville Chamberlain.
	But in this case, I think we're actually going to hopefully achieve some tangible peace and bring an end to this conflict so we can work on our domestic revitalization program and work on reshifting the focus towards China, the CCP, and our real geostrategic foes in the East.
	Look, and President Trump has this all lined out.
	This is what it's all about.
	We've got, by the way, live shots of Red Square there in Moscow right now.
	That is, of course, the Kremlin Palace, the complex where Steve Witkoff is expected.
	And I'm checking.
	I've got a live feed up as well.
	So Putin just taking that meeting with Lukashenko.
	Of Belarus will soon be meeting.
	We're told within potentially within minutes, potentially within the hour as we're live here with Witkoff to discuss the opening salvo of these conditions.
	We've got more on these conditions.
	We're going to go to a quick break because we're going to take a quick commercial timeout.
	But I want people to understand what Gavin Wax will also help explain.
	This is completely interconnected.
	It is completely interconnected between the tariffs, the winding down of a globalist American empire, the winding down of the wars and setting America on a footing for peace and prosperity for the American worker and the American family first.
	We'll be right back with more human events daily here live on this incredibly historic occasion.
	We'll be right back.
	Where is Jack?
	Where is Jack?
	Where is he?
	Jack, I want to see you.
	Great job, Jack.
	Thank you.
	What a job you do.
	You know, we have an incredible thing.
	We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who will be getting politicians.
	All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back, Human Events Daily.
	We're really tracking, we've got the live from Russia, live shot there.
	We're tracking this huge meeting between President Trump, Secretary General Mark Root of NATO, as well as we're waiting for, and it's currently evening in Russia.
	It's about 9.30 p.m., so they're seven hours ahead of East Coast time here in Washington from us.
	We're still waiting to see if Witkoff will be meeting with President Putin.
	We are told that meeting has not yet begun, or if it has begun, it has not come out publicly yet.
	Gavin, we've got about one minute until we rejoin with radio.
	What are the stakes here?
	Can you just run us through the stakes in one minute?
	Well, I mean, the stakes are nuclear war.
	I mean, that's really what, you know, this is all about.
	And thank God we have President Trump in office who understands what the stakes are, who understands what we're up against and what the possibilities are.
	You know, we have so many children, so many, you know, entitled, obnoxious children running things in Europe and who are running things in our country previously.
	And they were pushing the world closer to nuclear Armageddon than it's ever been before since maybe the height of the Cold War.
	So we need to be realistic.
	We need to be pragmatic.
	We need to embrace real politic, recognizing we're in a multipolar world order and recognizing that this is a conflict that needs to come to an end.
	And we need to put the egos and the pettiness and the whims of some leaders in Europe aside for the sake of world peace.
	And that means peace in Ukraine, peace between Ukraine and Russia, and thus peace on the global stage.
	Folks, this is huge.
	This is the world stage.
	This is MAGA World Peace.
	We're going to take one second.
	I want to bring in the radio audience now.
	Bear with us because we need to get everyone in on this.
	And Jack, where is Jack?
	Where is Jack?
	Where is he?
	Jack, I want to see you.
	Great job, Jack.
	Thank you.
	What a job you do.
	You know, we have an incredible thing.
	We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
	All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.
	Human Events Daily.
	We're live on Real America's Voice.
	We're also bringing in Hour 3 of the Charlie Kirk program on the Salem News Network.
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	Okay, folks, so we're getting some word.
	Sky News dropping some analysis out.
	Ivor Bennett, who was their Moscow correspondent, over there saying, in his view, Putin doesn't appear to show any signs of compromise.
	I just want to read this from Sky News.
	It says Vladimir Putin was never going to flat out reject the U.S. proposal for a ceasefire, but he also wasn't going to fully endorse it.
	If he does agree, if Russia does agree, it will come with strings attached.
	The Kremlin leader didn't specify Moscow's demands, but he did allude to them by saying that the peace deal had to eliminate the root causes of the conflict.
	It became a frequent refrain of his and shows that Moscow's maximalist position This is, of course, referring to NATO's eastward expansion, which he blames as the catalyst for the war in Ukraine.
	And, of course, by the way, it also, and we have a little bit of a readout here as well, they were talking about, Putin was talking about the fact that there are 1,200 miles of front line currently in the Ukraine war between Russia and Ukraine.
	That's about the distance from New York to Miami, almost the entire east coast.
	And he's also asking questions about who's going to guarantee the ceasefire?
	Who's going to monitor the agreement for violations?
	What is the authority?
	Is there an international peace?
	Is it censors?
	How does it work, drones, etc.?
	And of course, Vladimir Putin visiting Kursk, the region, just a few...
	Hours ago, really just yesterday, wearing fatigues for the first time since the war began and donning those after a just strong, very strong Russian victory in the Kursk region, mirroring, of course, though on a much smaller scale, the Great Battle of Kursk in World War II, which has fought over the very same terrain, although in that case we had upwards of 2.2 million soldiers.
	Both from the Nazis and the Soviets combined, as well as about 6,000 armored vehicles, 6,000 tanks.
	And so I want to bring Gavin Wax back in here.
	Gavin, President Trump, I think, understands the overall peace picture here and understands that ultimately the biggest players in this are not NATO. And Ukraine, the way the media would have us believe, but it really kind of does come down to a proxy fight between the US and Russia.
	Is that right?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I think he understands that this is great power politics.
	And really, the only two state actors that matter are the United States and Russia.
	And I think the Russians recognize that.
	I think the Europeans are obviously upset about that.
	But at the end of the day, they're pretty much vassal states of the United States at this point.
	They don't really have any military, you know, capabilities to speak of.
	Their economy is a fraction of what ours is.
	Trying to recreate a European Grand Army under Macron and trying to revitalize German military industry.
	But this is all far too little, far too late.
	They were never in a position to be dictating the terms of this conflict, certainly not the terms of peace.
	This was always going to be.
	Be a discussion between the United States and Russia or a man-to-man between President Trump and Putin.
	And that's what we're beginning to see.
	And I think, look, as time goes on, it's becoming clear that this conflict is unwinnable for the Ukrainians and the position of the West and the position the United States needs to be.
	How do we come to the table and get the best possible deal for both Ukraine and the West?
	And I think that's what we're going to have to discuss at the negotiating process.
	There are obviously some red lines.
	I think that's the signs that Russia and Putin have drawn and where they're willing to acquiesce and where they're not is going to be determined through this process.
	But at least we're having this process, which in and of itself is a massive development from the past few years of no communication, no talks, and no sign of peace on the horizon.
	Well, and that's really what it's all about, because this is something where, look, I think a lot of people were saying, oh, you know, Putin's going to agree to the ceasefire, and this is going to, you know, the ball's in his court, and he's going to agree right away.
	But when it really comes down to it, that's not how these types of negotiations usually work.
	Typically with negotiations like this, at the end of any big conflict, you're going to have the leaders get together.
	You're going to have, of course, a framework that'll be agreed to by the envoys.
	So that's...
	That's Mark Root from the NATO side.
	That's Witkoff going to the Russians to get their information.
	That's Lavrov putting out his process.
	That's also, by the way, the Secretary of State and Walt's meeting with the Ukrainians and their interlocutors there in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
	But this really isn't going to come into effect.
	Until we see a meeting between the leaders of the United States, the leaders of Russia, and the leaders of Ukraine.
	And who knows, right?
	Who knows how that's going to look or even where that would take place.
	Now, I think one of the reasons, personally, that they can't use Istanbul anymore is that Erdogan has turfed himself out because he's taken so much of a line with the Ukrainians in terms of this that Putin doesn't necessarily look at him as an impartial player in the conflict.
	He's someone who's been...
	He's completely on board with NATO, obviously being a NATO member, but also completely on board with the Ukrainian war effort and selling those Bayraktar drones and so many others.
	Of course, he can point to keeping the Dardanelles closed and the Bosphorus, the lines to the Black Sea and keeping with the Montreux Treaty from the early 1900s, World War I era treaty.
	But at the end of the day, he's taken a side in the conflict.
	So that's why they're going down to Saudi Arabia for all of this, because the Saudis, if anything, haven't really taken a side.
	One way or the other.
	So they've got the ability to be neutral ground.
	But when it really all comes to the same deal, by the way, with pretty much everywhere in Europe, with the exception of, I don't know, Hungary.
	And so the idea moving forward then is if we're going to see a piece, and Gavin, let's even pull it back even further.
	Let's pull it back way further.
	Because President Trump, and I keep saying this, the tariffs are connected to the foreign policy.
	The tariffs.
	NATO, foreign policy, our relationship with Europe, it's all deeply interconnected.
	And we've been talking about this here on Human Events daily.
	The media is never going to get this.
	I think this goes, honestly, Gavin, you've talked to reporters the way I do, this stuff goes right over their heads.
	They have no idea.
	They look at one lane as economic, one lane as military.
	They can't actually see the connection.
	What President Trump is trying to do is wind down the globalist American empire project.
	Isn't that right?
	No, that's absolutely correct.
	It's all interconnected.
	And I think President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance are making it clear that our alliances, our treaty obligations, our relationships with other states are based on mutual benefit.
	They're based on a transaction.
	They're based off of a two-way street.
	And for far too long, it's been a one-way street with the Europeans saying, gimme, gimme, gimme, and the United States giving, giving, giving, and not really getting much back in return.
	We see that on trade.
	They have prevented a whole litany of American products from effectively being imported in to the European Union.
	And now, of course, the Europeans are crying bloody murder when President Trump suggests reciprocal tariffs and suggests a reevaluation of our trade relationship with Europe.
	They also cry bloody murder when J.D. Vance, Vice President J.D. Vance, brings up very key.
	Failings of these European nations in terms of preserving the civil liberties of their people as it relates to censorship, as it relates to political imprisonment, and a whole litany of other key issues that many Americans have been very disappointed to see develop, whether in the United Kingdom or continental Europe.
	So again, these relationships are really not based anymore on shared values because the European values have taken a nosedive into the tyrannical, sadly, in recent years.
	Now, as it pertains to the military end of things, President Trump has long been consistent in demanding that the Europeans pay their fair share for their own defense, particularly as it relates to their contractual obligations to NATO. They've long tried to circumvent those requirements and have the United States pay for their defense.
	While they could pay for their own welfare states and pay to subsidize industries that compete with the United States, while at the same time not allowing us to export into Europe.
	So all of these things are coming to a head.
	We're seeing a complete Geopolitical realignment in action.
	We're seeing President Trump reevaluate everything on the table.
	Nothing is just going to be the status quo for the sake of being the status quo.
	We need better trade relationships.
	We need better military allies.
	We need peace.
	Otherwise, President Trump will not be able to achieve his massive domestic agenda as it relates to the economy, as it relates to the border, as it relates to cultural and traditional values of rejuvenation of the American Republic.
	We need peace in Europe to do that.
	We also need to geopolitically realign towards Asia, towards the Asia Pacific, to China, which is our main geopolitical foe, both economically and militarily.
	We've seen the actions of the CCP domestically far outweigh anything that the Russians have supposedly done or any other state in Europe or elsewhere for that matter.
	It remains that China under the CCP has been our main adversary, buying up tons of land across the United States, strategic farmland.
	I know the Trump administration is looking into that.
	They've flooded our schools and universities with effectively CCP spies and agents getting American education to then bring back to China or to infiltrate our own institutions in corporate America.
	We've seen Chinese spies operate in the U.S. government, in the U.S. military, recently having been indicted for selling state secrets.
	We've seen some of those Chinese student visa holders engage in espionage near U.S. We've seen the CCP run an underground police station in Lower Manhattan to spy on U.S. nationals of Chinese descent.
	It's completely wild.
	They've gone after Shen Yun of all groups.
	It's a Chinese dance troupe.
	They've tried to have this tax status revoked.
	The traditional dance folks.
	Well, you know, Jack, you know, you know, the cultural revolution, Mao's cultural revolution.
	That's what they're trying to export.
	They're trying to stomp out any traditional culture, Chinese traditional culture.
	Right, because they dug up the emperors and put them on trial again.
	Ridiculous.
	Gavin Wax, where can people follow you, brother?
	At Gavin Wax, you can follow me.
	I just published a piece, Daily Caller, check it out.
	Pollution tariffs on China.
	We need it now.
	China, China, China.
	We'll be right back, folks.
	human events daily.
	Jack is a great guy.
	He's written a fantastic book.
	Everybody's talking about it.
	Go get it.
	And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
	And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
	Amen.
	As for readiness of Ukraine for the ceasefire, I'll tell you my estimation of this.
	But first of all, I would like to thank the President of the United States for paying so much attention to regulating the conflict in Ukraine.
	Of course, we all have lots of current There are issues to deal with, and the Chairman of China and the Prime Minister of India, and heads of states of Brazil and South Africa, they are dealing with this issue and they are paying a lot of attention to this, and we're grateful for this.
	And we're hoping that their activity, we understand that their activity is aimed at reducing When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
	All right, Jack, we're back live, Human Events Daily.
	We're on Real America's Voice, also bringing in Hour 3, Charlie Kirk Show on the Salem Radio Network.
	I want to bring in now Kenny Cody, who is the brand-new opinion editor over at humanevents.com.
	Congratulations to you, Kenny.
	But, of course, we're hitting the ground running because today we're in the midst of these live developments.
	We're living through the fourth turning.
	The fourth turning is in full swing as we await President Putin's meeting with Steve Witkoff, the envoy there in Moscow, just after President Trump made his comments in the White House.
	We've gone from the White House to New York.
	We're now covering Moscow.
	We're waiting for this.
	Putin already making a statement saying he's interested in the ceasefire, but he wants...
	To get more specifics on that.
	Kenny Cody, what is your sense on the stakes of this?
	And guys, let's get that live shot of Moscow up so people can see that this is going to be happening very, very soon here.
	Kenny, what is your sense of the stakes of this and what President Trump specifically campaigned on?
	Well, I didn't know it would be this soon, but it has the opportunity to be the biggest foreign policy accomplishment of the Trump presidency.
	You know, him bringing these stakeholders to the table and discussing a ceasefire, discussing peace in the most publicized conflict there is in the world currently, involving a world superpower and a country that has garnered and got foreign aid from about every country in the world fighting against Russia.
	So I think this has the potential to be a huge accomplishment for the Trump presidency and more importantly is going to save the lives of United States soldiers, going to save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers, wrestlers from continuing against conflict that we all know how it's going to end up.
	This is a continuing conflict.
	It's continuing fire.
	It's continuing the loss of life.
	And this is the entire idea that Trump campaigned on.
	It's muggle world peace.
	It's peace through strength.
	We are not going to let Zelensky come to our country and bully our vice president and our president.
	We're not going to let him come into the office and keep on begging for money when he's showing no gratitude.
	We're not going to let...
	Putin continuing to run over Donald Trump like he did Joe Biden.
	This is a different president with a different foreign policy strategy.
	And this peace through strength foreign policy ideology, prioritizing anti interventionism, but also strong arming those world leaders that are intimidated by Donald Trump is exactly why he won the presidency and why he can bring world peace to this to both Ukraine, Russia and the rest of the world.
	This could be the potential to be the most important foreign policy developed in the history of the Trump to Trump.
	And Kenny, Kenny, real quick, I want to come in here with some breaking news, because according to Ukrainian media, we're just getting reports out of this.
	There were a lot of questions about the ceasefire declaration that that joint statement that was put out by the Ukrainian negotiators.
	And the U.S., but we're also getting a back brief, or it looks like Ukrainian media did, according to European Pravda out of Ukraine, that their delegation in Saudi Arabia refused to agree to give up NATO membership aspirations as part of their ceasefire conditions.
	And they called it, according to this, a red line for Ukraine, that it cannot be removed.
	From the agenda.
	So, Kenny, you know, you've been watching this stuff.
	I've been watching this stuff.
	This is going to be a huge point of contention.
	Of course, that's why President Trump's got the secretary general there in the Oval Office today, because he, I'm sure, has already been briefed.
	By Witkoff and Rubio that the Ukrainians refuse to drop this NATO aspiration from it.
	And so he's probably going to have to go to NATO now and say, look, if these guys won't give it up, we're going to have to drop the hammer.
	Because at the end of the day, it's the United States that's footing the bill for NATO. And sure, I'm sure lots of countries want to join NATO, but that ain't exactly how it works, is it, Kenny Cody?
	No.
	Since 2017, Donald Trump has advocated that the United States foots the bill for every European country and every member of NATO. Europe has far too long attempted to make the United States pair an unfair share and an unfair amount of effort into giving countries like Ukraine foreign aid, weapons, and whatever else they need, and catering to them.
	And Democrat politicians and neoconsertive politicians have continued that funding and continued that backing.
	So finally, the United States is going...
	We have got to have peace.
	We've got to stop this right now and not let Ukraine be the arbiters of this negotiation.
	Like when Trump said that they don't have the cards, they still do not have the cards.
	They cannot be in charge of this peace negotiation.
	This has to be equal on all grounds, including the United States, considering how much stakes and how many billions of dollars we've sent both of these countries to continue this war.
	Yes, the United States and NATO are huge actors in this.
	And to say that they're not is just completely ridiculous.
	And when the Russians talk about root causes, that's what they're talking about.
	Folks, go follow Kenny Cody, the great new opinion editor on humanevents.com.
	Go and make sure you're following him.

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