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Feb. 22, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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BONUS EPISODE: President Trump Is The MOST CONSEQUENTIAL PRESIDENT In History w/ Roger Stone
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
Christ is King!
Alright folks, we are here with the one and only Roger Stone.
We are on the sidelines of America Fest.
Roger...
Give me your sense, you know, these AmericaFest events, as they've been going on, when Charlie launched this four years ago, we were in a quite different place than we are in 2024. How is it, you know, and it can give us this sort of idea that we've never really seen something like this in American politics, certainly not in our lifetime.
Roger Stone's seen a lot, but I don't know if you've seen a comeback quite like this, unless...
Unless you think about the comeback of a certain California governor, can you compare what President Trump did, I suppose, from 2020, 2021, on to here?
Is it comparable at all to what Governor Nixon and then vice presidential and President Nixon was able to do?
You know, Jack, it's actually more significant.
Wow.
Here's why.
The reason that Trump's election in 2024 is the most significant comeback in American history is because he wasn't just winning a political campaign, even one in which a biased media was supporting and propping up his opponent.
He was fighting the full force of the U.S. government that was trying to bankrupt him, trying to keep him off the ballot, trying to incarcerate him.
And in Butler, Pennsylvania.
And trying to kill him.
Yes.
So, while Nixon does, after the 72 election, face a tsunami of lawfare that ultimately removes him, and he did carry 49 of 50 states, so it's a more sweeping victory, but the forces he overcame were not as significant.
Well, and if we had the...
If America had the specific demographics of that age, I mean, I would imagine that the statewide...
Victory would have possibly been 49 or more.
I think the reason that Trump's victory is more significant is it signals a broader political realignment.
One like we had in the country in 1932. So up until 1932, the vast majority of African Americans voted Republican because of the role of Lincoln and the Republican Party.
Lincoln freed the slaves.
In 1932, a majority of blacks still voted for Herbert Hoover over Franklin Roosevelt.
But by 1936, because of Hoover's anemic response to the Great Depression, blacks become Democrats because of the social programs of the New Deal.
And they don't come back until 2024 when Trump begins to make significant inroads among black Americans.
And the New Deal itself and FDR's coalition becomes known as the New Deal coalition for the next 50 years.
So then again, in 1968, we have another realignment.
Even though Nixon is in a three-way race, It's the first time that white Southern conservatives vote Republican.
John F. Kennedy carried every deep Southern state in 1960. Barry Goldwater carried them in 1964. That's the bridge.
In 1968, Nixon is now winning in the Deep South.
Wallace takes several states, but in the border South, Nixon wins.
So blue-collar ethnic Catholics in places like Pennsylvania, like New Jersey, like Michigan, like Ohio, like New York, are voting for Nixon, and white Southern conservatives.
This becomes the coalition that ultimately elects Reagan.
It's a coalition that essentially Trump reassembles in 2016 and then in 2024. He expands the coalition and makes inroads among Blacks, Hispanics, young people, and so on.
So, I think the alliance with RFK, with Tulsi Gabbard, with Rod Burgoyevich, the former Illinois governor, this is symbolic of a new, broader, permanent governing coalition.
Here are the fault lines.
People need to stop thinking in terms of Republican-Democrat.
The Republican Party is rife with corrupt rhinos who believe in nothing.
Oh, yes.
Well, they believe in money.
They believe in getting reelected.
Certainly.
And money to get reelected.
But what's happened here is those who favor war, those who favor censorship, those who think Big Pharma and Big Food should do whatever they want as long as profits are back, they have gravitated to the Democrat Party, the party that used to be the party of peace.
The party used to bitch about the FBI spying on people during the Vietnam War.
Now they love government spies.
You know, there's a video, one of my favorite clips, that just shows this.
2013 on RT, of all places, with Congressman Adam Schiff complaining about FISA abuse.
Oh, look, there's a great video of Maxine Waters complaining about the CIA trafficking cocaine in Domina, Arkansas, and selling it to finance the Contra's resistance to communism.
Roger, remind me, who was the governor of Arkansas when that was going on?
I can't remember his name.
First they tried to bring the cocaine into Louisiana.
Right.
But the Louisiana state police wouldn't allow it.
Okay.
Then they tried to bring it into Texas, but the Texas Rangers were lying.
So they went north Louisiana.
Then they found a friendly governor.
I think his name was Bill Clinton.
Bill William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.
And he was willing to take a payoff.
His partner in this deal went to jail, by the way.
Got him Lasseter.
But yes, it is an undisputed fact that the Central Intelligence Agency under George Bush and Bill Casey, the CIA director, trafficked millions of dollars into MENA, Arkansas to convert it to cash.
To illegally finance the Contra Freedom Fighters in violation of the Bolin Amendment.
And this is the poor Barry Seal, I believe, was the one who...
Right, there have been several kind of sanitized movies.
I mean, Tom Cruise actually plays him in one movie.
Tom Cruise plays him in the most recent one, I believe, which is, I think they do a fairly good job.
It's not, it doesn't give you the full story, but for Hollywood, the fact that it was even made at all...
Agreed.
...shows you something.
And if people are familiar, Barry Seal, very famous.
A pilot, very famous for his ability to fly low below radar.
So he was flying all these drugs into first Louisiana, then Texas, then Arkansas.
He was making millions of dollars being paid by the agency, but the IRS kept trying to collect.
So he goes to Vice President George Bush, his lawyer records this at the time, and he says, you've got to get these people off my back.
And Bush says, I don't know what you're talking about.
Three weeks later, Barry Seale is dead.
Shot in the streets of New Orleans.
And his lawyer who recorded that drowned in a bathtub in Miami.
What a terrible accident.
I'm so sorry that happened to him.
Folks, you know, when we actually realize how our government has been run for so long, and this is what I want to actually ask you about going forward, it's not just about President Trump's coalition.
It is historic from a political perspective.
But victory was...
I spoke at Amfest here and I said victory was not November 5th.
Victory will not be January 20th either.
Victory will be when in the military what we used to call the commander's desired end state has been achieved.
And the commander's desired end state here is America being restored to greatness.
And there are many challenges and hurdles to that victory.
And I think that we're going to start seeing them probably in the first hundred days in terms of trying to deliver on these promises.
I could not agree more.
Victory can only be judged on the final day of the four-year term towards Donald Trump.
Until then, you will not know.
We only control the House by three votes.
If the Democrats can't control the House, the whole cycle of fake investigations, fake claims, fraudulent claims, they will seek to.
And in order to avoid that, the most important thing that must happen in the first two years or must happen from the beginning of the very first day is We must have a boom economy.
Yes.
If we have a strong, vibrant economy, winning back the House will be very important.
The second thing we need to do is we need to deal with the question of election integrity.
Now, in Orange County, California, more people voted than are registered to vote.
That is an undisputed fact.
Speaker Johnson should refuse to seat the Democrat members from Orange County.
Read the House rules.
The House shall be the final arbiter of the legality of the election of its members.
He can refuse to seek them, and he should do so.
I'm afraid that he will not do so, but he should do so.
We should object in the Senate.
We should not seat Tammy Baldwin.
I call fraud in her election.
It is disputed.
As long as there is a lawsuit pending, she should not be seated.
If you do not use political power, you will lose political power.
Yes.
Now, could you get every Republican in the Senate to vote for that?
You might, because you're just diluting their majority by seating this woman.
Her election is fraudulent.
I'm sorry.
99,000 votes are found at 4 a.m., and they're 99% for the Democrats?
It's not possible.
I've seen Eric Hubdi's video, which he put out.
And look, Eric Covney is not some dyed-in-the-wool, grassroots, conservative, fire-breathing type.
Eric Covney is a very serious guy.
He comes from the world of business.
He's not a politician.
Great mustache.
Fake mustache.
Great mustache.
Excuse me, great mustache.
Great mustache.
Refused to shave it, even though I am told that a certain resident of a compound in Florida had suggested so at one point.
But the idea is, no, fake votes, not fake mustache.
The idea being is, if he were able to sit down, possibly privately, with members of the Republican Conference, then possibly publicly have called to speak, I think he makes a very strong case.
And he doesn't come across really as biased.
even though he has an obvious bias, is really what I'm trying to say.
Well, but I guess the real question here is, if the state is not going to deal with the problem, they're clearly not.
And federal elections are really not regulated by federal government, and I don't think we want them to be.
The Senate has a responsibility.
They can determine through their own investigation whether someone has been legally elected or not.
They did this to us in New Hampshire in the 1970s.
They refused to seat a Republican congressman who had won a Senate seat there because they disputed the election.
So I think that our leadership needs to do more and recognize if we don't win the midterm elections, this...
This golden age of peace and prosperity and security and justice will last two years.
And two years is not enough for some of these biggest pieces.
And you're absolutely right that losing the House and certainly losing the Senate or not having the ability of a stronger majority there is going to deny the ability of President Trump to be able to achieve this agenda.
That said, though...
Even with the current slight House majority and the Senate majority, a three-seat majority there, but certainly 53 votes gets you quite a bit.
The ability, though, for President Trump to get through his legislation and some of these early bills is also going to be a challenge, Roger.
What do you see in terms of the slate that President Trump should...
Prioritize, let me just say, legislatively.
Obviously, we know in terms of the border, in terms of deportations, these types of executive functions, a lot can be done at the executive level, but there will be a need for a legislative pitch.
So we're talking legislation, since we're speaking of the legislative branch, and really that's been the flavor, I think, of the transition now.
The most important thing I think is obvious.
We have to extend the Trump tax cuts.
It is absolutely essential that the Trump tax cuts, which are set to expire, which the Democrats, which Kamala Harris would not have renewed, quite obviously, the Trump tax cuts must be renewed.
I think this may be the single most important thing we have to do in terms of moving the economy forward.
We have to, and I think that most of this can be done by executive order, we need to start drilling for gas and oil.
Of course.
That one's kind of a no-brainer.
Beyond that, I think that you really have to use the executive branch power as they did.
We have a new House report that shows that Adam Schiff and his sidekick, Eric, swallows well.
Without any question, leak classified documents.
Now, they should be prosecuted.
Senators can be prosecuted.
Jack, no one is above the law.
Did you know that?
I mentioned that in my speech at Amfest.
No one is above the law.
Liz Cheney, no one is above the law.
Nancy Pelosi, Cassidy Hutchinson, Alyssa Farah, no one is above the law.
And certainly, well, if George Santos wasn't above the law, then why would a U.S. senator not be above the law?
And Menendez?
But, you know, we have a very fragile majority.
We only lead by three seats.
You have two special elections coming up in Florida in April.
We have to win both of those, and I think we will.
You have a special election in upstate New York for Elise Stefanik's seat.
It's my understanding that she will not vacate the seat until the seats in Florida are filled, which I think is wise.
But that seat...
Held by Lisa Fanick, was held by a Democrat as recently as 2015. So we can count nothing for granted.
We have to be very vigilant about protecting our thin majority.
But, look, the speaker gets a huge amount of criticism.
I didn't like the continuing resolution because it was stuffed with pork.
It was not just approving government spending at its current levels.
That's what they tried to tell us.
But there was all kinds of new spending in there.
Yes.
And therefore, I think it was correct that it was defeated.
But Johnson has an almost impossible job.
50% of his caucus are rhinos who believe in nothing other than money and getting reelected.
They don't care whether you have evidence that Joe Biden murdered or none.
They don't want Joe Biden criticized or prosecuted.
They don't care if there's evidence that as vice president, he and his family took millions from China or Romania or Ukraine or Russia.
They don't care.
On the other hand, you have the firebrands who say, why aren't the Bidens being prosecuted?
Why are we not following up on all of these conclusions regarding the January 6th committee?
I mean, so he has an almost impossible task because he has to get a majority to do anything.
It's very hard.
No, I think it's absolutely prescient.
Now, at the same time, we have a situation where we know that in 2016 and then in early 2017, elements of the deep state launched an operation against the Trump administration and namely his national security adviser, General Michael Flynn.
That same deep state, these corrupt individuals at the FBI, maybe not the specific members of Strzok and Page, but so many others are still yet out there.
And in fact, so many of these types do still exist within the intelligence community.
What should President Trump, and hopefully with a strong director of national intelligence, as well as a strong CIA director and NSC, What can be done to really put pressure to, number one, make sure that doesn't happen again, and then two, make sure that it is rooted out?
Well, first of all, I don't know the answer to this, but if any of the 51 so-called intelligence experts, officials, current and former, who claim that Hunter Biden's laptop had all the hallmarks of Russia, if they still have security clearance, it should be removed.
There's step one.
Step two, I think Jake Sullivan, we know from the Sussman prosecution, he knew that there was no computer terminal in Trump Tower connecting Trump to a Russian bank.
He knew that was a fraud, yet he allowed Hillary Clinton to push that false narrative.
He's also involved in the collection of the 51 agents.
It just seems to me, for example, we now recently learned that prior...
To the counter-terrorism investigation, crossfire hurricane, even being begun, there's a secret, off-the-books operation in which two very attractive FBI undercover agents are infiltrated into Donald Trump's campaign.
They're actually in his traveling party while he's running for president.
This is in 16. Yes.
Yes.
And their job is to fish for evidence against Trump or members of his staff.
James Comey needs to be held.
We're responsible for that.
That's spying.
Isn't that what they removed Nixon for?
It certainly was.
He bugged the Democrats.
So the FBI director of the Democrat administration that was seated had their candidate running, Hillary, who had also been a member of that administration, was directly spying, not just wiretapping, but you're talking infiltrating the campaign with FBI agents.
Human intelligence assets inside Trump's campaign.
It makes Watergate look like small potatoes.
Oh, no.
But will Comey pay any...
I mean, I've seen him with his Kamala t-shirt.
Is he going to pay any price for this?
No, I think that...
People ask me this all the time.
We're reporters, I should say, not people.
What is your sense on revenge?
What is your sense on retribution?
I don't believe in revenge, but I do believe in something called reciprocity, and I certainly believe in something called justice.
And justice will not be done until these crooked perpetrators have been brought to justice and that the things that they have done, not just to President Trump, but to the American people, are actually repaid.
The debts must be repaid and balance has to be restored.
And if it's not, then there is no...
It's a disincentive for them to ever just do it again.
So those who keep talking about revenge and retribution, those are guilty people who are whining out of fear.
Yes.
I believe what we're talking about is the rebalancing of the scales of justice so that we have one standard of justice, not two.
It's as simple as that.
So when James Clapper goes before Congress and says under oath, no, there is no metadata collection program on American citizens, and Edward Snowden proves that that's false.
Then Clapper should be prosecuted.
They prosecuted me for allegedly lying under oath in my voluntary testimony about Russian collusion, which didn't exist.
But why is Clapper now teaching ethics at Vermont College, plus getting a fat paycheck from CNN? Although money may be getting tight over there since nobody's watching anymore.
It's just another example.
Comey lies to Congress about material matters.
Brennan...
He lies about spying on a Senate committee that is investigating his illegal use of torture in Afghanistan.
He lies to a Senate committee about it.
And then when he gets caught, he's allowed to apologize.
He shouldn't be apologizing.
He should be in prison.
So, yes, I don't think it has anything to do with retribution.
The universe will always correct itself.
Yes.
And that's what's happening here.
I think that's exactly right.
Has the courage, has the grit to go after these people.
And no, they don't have to be tried in D.C. They can be tried in different jurisdictions.
You know, let me actually ask you about that, because this is something that you have a unique perspective, I believe, on, a unique point of view, not only as a political strategist, but as someone who's been a victim of that system.
Political prosecutions.
The Democrats have come up with a system.
Through the D.C. Circuit, where they know that if they drag anyone before a Washington D.C. jury that is a Republican or is in any way associated with Donald Trump, they're going to get a guilty verdict.
Regardless of what the law says, regardless of what the evidence says, it doesn't matter.
That jury pool, we know, 95% Democrat.
So, in what possible way?
Could we short-circuit that to be able to take that option off the table for them?
I've heard legislation.
I've heard some others.
First of all, D.C. should not be a circuit.
It's not a state.
Remove the circuit completely.
Remove the circuit completely.
That's the first thing I would do.
Secondarily, judges who have made unconstitutional...
They need to be called before the Senate in hearings to explain themselves.
Here's a shock for your viewers.
The judicial branch does not outrank the legislative branch.
They're equal branches.
The courts have no jurisdiction over the Congress.
The Congress does have jurisdiction over the courts.
So I think judges, like the judge in General Flynn's case, who appointed a special counsel in violation of law, needs to be called before the Senate and asked why he did that.
And if he objects, then they need to send Sergeant Armstrong to go pick him up and bring him down for his testimony.
Simple as that?
It needs to be done, but it's a question of will.
So let's take the famous Durham report.
John Durham is appointed to get to the bottom of Russian collusion.
He takes five years.
It doesn't take five years.
We already knew almost everything that was in his report.
But he had to make sure the statute of limitations ran over so that Hillary and John Podesta and Jake Sullivan and the other perps, John Brennan, James Comey, Susan Rice, Joe Biden, you could say Obama, but I think the immunity ruling may protect him.
But he waits five long years.
Now he brings an indictment against...
This guy, Sussman, who's at the very, very bottom of the totem pole.
This is like indicting the guy who drove the getaway car for double parking while you let the bank robbers get away.
Right.
And he still loses because Sussman's a Democrat.
Although we learn a lot of those things in that trial that should have led to other prosecutions.
There's no chance that Sussman...
So Sussman lies about the status of Carter Page, who at the time was working as an asset for the CIA when he was conducting, and the DIA, as he was conducting these trips to Russia.
They get asked, is Page doing this on behalf of you guys?
He said, or behalf of the CIA. The CIA says, yes, he is.
The FBI then turns around to the FISA court.
It alters the email, and it's Sussman who does that.
Roger, would Sussman just do that by himself, this low-level guy?
Well, I mean, we know, for example, that prosecutor Aaron Zielinski was a prosecutor in my case.
Questions takes the 302 of George Papadopoulos.
When they asked Papadopoulos, will you assist us in trying to find this mysterious Professor Mifsud, who you claim said that, you know, he had access to Hillary's emails.
Papadopoulos says, yes, I will.
Zelensky changes it to, no, I won't.
Why is this man still admitted to the bar?
Why has he not been prosecuted?
He's still working as an assistant U.S. attorney in Baltimore, but not for long.
Certainly not for long.
This was something that a lot of people, I remember, even in Trump's first administration, were arguing for.
They said, leave some of the U.S. attorneys, leave these leave-behinds on the National Security Council.
These are careerists.
Just because they were in the Biden administration or at the time the Obama administration doesn't mean that they are bad actors.
Roger, should that action be repeated?
Every U.S. attorney should be replaced, every single one.
And new people should be selected.
And people should be selected based on their qualifications and their commitment to real, nonpolitical, impartial justice.
So, top to bottom.
No, I don't think anybody should be retained in the national security apparatus.
The people who invented the Ukrainian hoax were all careerists.
Yes.
The two twin brothers, they need to be breaking rocks someplace.
The Venmans were on the NSC. And the option came through to have them removed.
And don't need to name names, but someone in the former Trump administration, who actually will be going into the new one, actually said that we should keep the current members of the NSC. We need a complete housecleaning.
We need to...
This administration needs an enema, and I know where to put the nozzle.
It is time for a house cleaning.
I think it's exactly right, Roger.
So we've talked about the deep state challenges, and we've talked about the economic challenges as well.
You know, the finance guys tell me all the time, they say, Zero Hedge has put this out saying that they see the potential winds of recession, giving...
The debt issues that we are focused on.
You mentioned oil.
You mentioned the drilling.
You mentioned the tax cuts.
How serious should President Trump take this potential threat of a recession in 2025?
I think he has to take it seriously, but this is why I'm very happy with his Secretary of Treasury, Scott Besson.
Scott Besson.
Besson is an outside-the-box thinker.
He's a radical supply sider.
He's got some very good ideas about how to reduce our debt, how to reduce inflation.
I think between Trump and Besson, who is a disciple of Larry Kudlow, they're going to get this economy cooking by the midterm election.
So I think these...
Look, as you know with Trump, all the old rules are off.
So the party in power loses seats in the off-year elections.
Yes, except for when they don't.
That isn't written in stone, pardon the expression.
So I think they need to understand...
I think they do understand the need to get the economy moving.
Trump's deaf use of tariffs, I think people are confused.
Trump is really a free trader.
He doesn't want to put tariffs on people.
If you will just give us a fair deal, we won't throw tariffs on them.
But if you won't, well, then we're going to clobber you with tariffs.
And it worked spectacularly in his first term, and it will work again.
He would rather not have tariffs with Mexico or Canada or China.
But if they're not going to give us a fair deal, well, we can sell our goods and services in their markets, well, then he has no choice.
I think he's the best negotiator in the world.
You can see how some of these, like his statement that he's going to put tariffs on Mexico and Canada, brings them to their knees like that.
Immediately.
Because people know that he's unpredictable, and he has this great tendency to actually do what he says he's going to do.
So I think he's got huge leverage, and I think he gets the economy moving relatively quickly.
One thing that we haven't talked about directly, maybe indirectly, but It's also the external factor of foreign policy.
Now, we know that he has said that he's been working towards potentially even before he takes office an end to the Ukraine war.
We don't know if that will happen at this time, though certainly he's trying to bring all sides together.
Obviously, you have the situation in the Middle East, always constant rumblings in Asia.
When it comes to foreign policy, where do you think President Trump should focus first?
I think it's a very difficult question, obviously.
I mean, put the sanctions in place immediately on Iran and cut off their cash.
Yes.
And they will run out of cash flows because they've been on a spending spree since we gave them more than $190 billion.
So put the sanctions back on.
Even the Chinese will stop buying oil from them.
If you want to slow them down, you might try breaking them financially.
As far as the situation in the Middle East, I think there's a little question.
I think that Putin has actually exercised enormous restraint.
Waiting for somebody he can actually negotiate with.
In Ukraine.
The Biden people aren't even talking to him.
We have no negotiation.
Which proves that they're committed to war.
They're not interested in a settlement.
They're not interested in stopping the killing.
Trump can get Putin to the table.
Trump has already proved that he gets Zelensky to the table.
Zelensky, after endorsing Kamala Harris, realizing what a huge blunder that was, he runs to Mar-a-Lago to beg for absolution.
And Trump Tower as well.
They both, they want to, and they both realize.
That this conflict must end.
The media can tell us that Ukraine is winning all they want.
They're not.
They're getting the crap kicked out of them.
And Putin cannot, for his own domestic political reasons, he cannot lose.
He will not use.
And yes, he will use nuclear weapons if he has to.
That's not where we want to go.
So I think Trump will negotiate a settlement.
By the way, Joe Biden blurted out, I'd be willing to give him the Donbass.
He said it.
Certainly did.
So when they come back and say, oh, well, Trump gave away half the country, which I don't think will happen.
So everybody's going to have to give here.
No one should assume that the war will be settled to the complete disadvantage of the Russians or to the complete disadvantage of the Ukrainians.
But I do think we have to stop the killing.
I think that's the first thing he must do.
Well, and someone who took a lot of bitterness and a lot of response and a lot of attacks for doing this, Tucker Carlson, when he went over and sat down with Sergey Lavrov, I think it was very clear that, watching this interview, that Lavrov intended, and the Russians intended, that interview as a message for Trump.
That they knew that President Trump would be watching this.
Obviously, they know that Tucker is close.
With Trump.
And so when people watch that, they say, oh, that's Russian propaganda.
No, no, no, no.
It is a message diplomatically through certainly an unorthodox channel, but one that we can all see the direct connection to.
And what did they say there?
Certainly they pressed their interest, but they also said that they were willing to talk.
Yeah, look, I think everybody in the region has been ready to talk.
It is our State Department that is preventing any meaningful dialogue that might end the conflict.
Tucker's taken a lot of heat for being willing to interview Putin, for being willing to interview Lavrov, but in both those cases, I think they both tell you why they're doing what they're doing.
No, it's not because Russia has this territorial appetite.
They're gonna gobble up Ukraine.
Then, Jack, they're taking Poland, all the France.
They're gonna take Germany.
No, there's no evidence of that.
That's BS and everybody knows that.
But Roger, the media tells me that Putin can barely take over Ukraine.
If he can barely get Ukraine, how's he ever going to get all of these other countries as well?
They're beaten, and they know they're beaten.
Well, Roger, I will tell you this, though.
The one thing that I do hear from folks in the know, shall we just say, as we're on camera right now, The message was essentially this.
We'll talk, but we're not going to talk forever.
And there is a huge hard line in Russia that believes, and I think that this is where Prigozhin, the leader of the Wagner Group, and some of these other individuals are coming from, is saying that this should have been done a long time ago.
Putin said that recently, by the way.
And if we don't deal with it in a way that's satisfactory, we're going to be here in five years' time.
And so this has always been the crux of the matter for them, is NATO and the missiles in Europe, particularly the ability of missiles to be within Ukraine, focused on, trained on the Kremlin.
There's no question about it.
We're, as you know...
This country is now in violation of the Budapest memorandum and the Minsk Accords.
We're doing exactly what we promised we would not do, push Ukraine into NATO, which means have NATO missiles on the ground aimed at Russia, not to mention bioweapon labs, which...
Victoria Nuland blurted out, existed, and then tried to walk back.
Research facilities, Roger.
Research facilities.
That's a conspiracy theory.
So we're in violation of these agreements that we signed.
The problem here is that I think this could have been resolved.
It would never even have started if Trump were there.
But it takes two to tango.
You can't negotiate if the other side won't even sit down and talk.
So Putin's right.
Conversation should have happened a long time ago.
We have to have a willing partner.
By the way, I think Zelensky's ready, but Antony Blinken won't let him go, won't let him talk.
Everybody here wants peace, but this current administration.
And based on this incredible report I saw recently from James O'Keefe, Joe Biden doesn't even know where he is.
He's calling Washington looking for Jake Sullivan, who's in the same hotel he's in.
Well, the Wall Street Journal finally woke up and did a random act of journalism, as Rush used to say, and has told us that it turns out that they've been hiding Joe Biden's mental state this entire time.
Wow, just like all of us said.
Roger, we're getting into our last couple of minutes here, but, you know, this has been, it's been an incredible 2024, but I keep trying to remind people of this, that if we do not deliver.
On the promise of the coalition, if we don't deliver, if we don't get RFK and get the Maha movement where it needs to be.
By the way, since we're talking Ukraine and Russia right now, I don't know if I ever told you this.
So, you know my wife, Tanya Tay, and born in the Soviet Union, grows up in Belarus, comes to the United States.
And I was telling Nicole Shanahan this recently, that when Tanya comes to the United States and she's signing up and she's getting a health insurance plan and she's getting in there and they do your basic questions about, you know, your health status, they say, do you have any food allergies?
Most common question you've heard, right?
Ask it everywhere you go.
Do you have any food allergies?
She goes, what are those?
What are those?
TANYA COMING FROM EASTERN EUROPE, AND HAS TRAVELED THROUGHOUT EUROPE IN A PLACE WHERE GMOs ARE BANNED, IN A PLACE WHERE ALL THESE THINGS ARE BAD.
ROGER, IT'S NOT THAT SHE HAD NEVER HEARD OF A FOOD ALLERGY, SHE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
She wasn't aware that such a concept even existed.
Tara Reid, you know her, is a woman who I think accurately claims she was sexually assaulted by Joe Biden back when she worked in the Senate.
When they basically sought to harass her and arrest her, she fled.
She went to Russia.
And I got a text from her.
She said, you wouldn't believe what the food is like here.
The food is so pure.
The food is so good.
The food is so much healthier than what they feed us in the United States.
It was an eye-opener for me.
I had thought of that.
I thought kind of more like cabbage and black bread.
No, Poland, it's the same way.
I visited Tanya in Belarus, and there's clearly something that's going on.
And look, you know, I think that America really trusts Bobby Kennedy in terms of this and wants to see that go through as well.
And I don't want to, as we're talking here, I don't want to skip over that as well.
No, I think that it's the second half of the promise we've made to the American people.
It's not just that we're going to make America great again in terms of economy and peace and prosperity and security and justice.
But we need to make America healthy again.
And I think President Trump's position on this is perfect.
I have a two-pronged plan here, by the way.
Something that I think is useful.
It's one action.
The banning of pharmaceutical advertisements for big pharma, it gives us a two...
Two birds with one stone kind of situation, because number one, it takes away so much from the doctors, from the population who want these drugs, and number two, it decimates cable news, decimates the mainstream media, and takes away their biggest overall sponsor.
I was talking about this on my show yesterday.
I'm a strong believer.
They banned alcohol.
Advertising.
Cigarette advertising.
Cigarette advertising.
So it makes no sense why we can't ban pharmaceutical advertising, something that Trump must do.
I will tell you, and I'll throw this out, 1776 at humanevents.com, 1776 at humanevents.com.
Yes or no, do you agree with this?
This question, of all the things I talk about on the show, it is the one that has given us and garnered us the biggest response of anything.
Is the banning of pharmaceutical ads.
Roger, just a couple of minutes left.
You know, I have to ask, while you're here, what are your plans, Roger, going forward as Trump takes office?
Well, I certainly have no interest in any position in government, because I believe I'm interested in politics.
I'm going to continue to do my daily show, The Stone Zone, on Rumble.
Every day at 8 p.m.
Eastern.
I'm going to continue to do my weekend radio show.
You've been on with us, Jack.
You were on for your birthday.
It was great.
I was on for my birthday in studio.
Studio was great.
It was a beautiful studio.
Every Sunday from 3 to 6 Eastern at WABCradio.com.
Worldwide, you can listen to the show.
I'm going to continue to crank out Substacks.
I'm going to continue to support candidates for nomination, initially, like Robert Kennedy and Tulsa Gabbard.
And I'm going to continue to speak out.
For the movement.
I might help a few candidates here and there.
Here or there.
But I will continue to be on the ramparts.
So yeah, there's no slowing down.
There's no pumping the brakes.
There's no kicking the heels up for Roger Stone.
I'm just warming up.
Are you kidding me?
You're just warming up.
Well, Roger, it's incredible to have you here.
Thank you so much for being on.
Tell people again what the main site is.
Go to StoneZone.com.
StoneZone.com.
From there, you can find my Rumble show.
You can find my radio show.
And of course, you can buy...
I'm telling you, Roger, as much as I love your books, I'm thinking a book on Watergate.
I think it's time for...
Do you think you have another book in you, and could there be one on Watergate?
You know, I've already written a book called Nixon's Secrets, which exposes most of the Watergate story.
However...
You're right, Jack.
Since then, a number of documents have become decentralized, so we know so much more about it.
Maybe you update it, you repackage a little bit.
I feel like something, it's because, you know, we've only got a minute left, but...
Everything that happened to Trump has given so many people a new way of looking at their history.
And when they look, as you say, at JFK, but then also at Watergate, people, I think, are ready to finally hear the true story.
The same interests that killed John F. Kennedy, the same interests that removed Richard Nixon in a silent coup, are the same interests who tried to remove Trump with the Russian collusion hoax, then the Ukrainian corruption hoax, and then the January 6th hoax, and then finally in a corrupted election.
I heard a line the other day.
They said, someone said, I don't remember what it was, they only have three plays.
The Kavanaugh, the Nixon, and the JFK. There you go.
Ladies and gentlemen, the great Roger Stone.
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