Feb. 17, 2025 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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THE ART OF THE PEACE DEAL: The Ukraine Peace Deal and the Historic 2nd Night Train to Kiev
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Marco Rubio is in the Middle East this morning ahead of critical negotiations with Russian officials about ending the war in Ukraine.
Zelensky says he hasn't been invited to the first round of talks.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
We are here live back in Washington, D.C. Today is February 17, 2025. Enno Domini, happy President's Day.
Well, as you know, this past week I was out.
From the show, I want to say a huge thank you to Michelle Bacchus and Kevin Posobiec, who covered down here on Human Events Daily while I was on the territory of Europe.
Traveled along with Secretary Besant, the Secretary of the Treasury, to Kiev, Ukraine, for a meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky, right there in the presidential complex.
Also met with the Ukrainian Prime Minister, as well as the Ministry of Finance and the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine.
Now, publicly, of course, mainstream media had saw that I was originally invited by Secretary Hegseth to accompany him on the NATO summit.
However, due to security logistics, I wasn't able to make it to the summit because I was in Kiev.
You got to take a long train.
In and out.
Nine hours in, nine hours out.
But just a sincere and heartfelt thank you to both Secretaries Besant and Hegseth for the invitations.
This was an honor, but more so, it was a responsibility.
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And so it was my role to document this, to tell you what was happening in real time, and we're going to show this here.
I was recording footage the entire time whenever I was able to do so and when I was allowed to do so because of security concerns.
So we're going to show you that footage here for the first time on this program, Human Events Daily, that I haven't shown yet.
Footage from the train, footage from inside Kiev, footage from inside Ukraine.
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Folks, just got back from Ukraine.
Boy, are my arms tired.
Look, this was an incredible trip.
We had an incredible opportunity.
The invitation from Secretary Besant to accompany his delegation as one of only two press.
That were able to actually be there on this train, a secure train, a night train, by the way, full Secret Service accompaniment, as well as Ukrainian military that were with us, soldiers, and we'll show you footage here in just a minute of all of this.
Obviously, it made mainstream headlines.
The international media not too happy that old Poso was allowed on the trip.
But here's the thing.
I wasn't there to represent myself.
I was there to represent My audience and also the eyes of anyone on social media who wanted to see what was really going on on the ground.
President Trump in his White House told us that we would have radical transparency and that's exactly what they're delivering on.
Imagine if we had had social media on the ground in Yalta.
Imagine if they had been there for the big three conference between Stalin and FDR and Churchill.
Right there in Yalta.
By the way, Yalta is also in Ukraine.
It's actually in Crimea, for those paying attention.
So the idea that we have had these massive peace talks on the territory of Ukraine, yeah, that's exactly where World War II's peace conference was ended.
And, oh, by the way, you can learn a whole lot more about that if you understand that all of Eastern Europe was essentially given to Stalin.
Who knows?
Maybe that wouldn't have happened at Yalta.
If you had had people there telling you what was going on in real time.
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Now, folks, as we know, there is breaking news and there's been a bunch of breaking news since even this trip took place.
So I want to put you in the mindset of this.
Now, at this point, J.D. Vance hasn't given his speech in Munich yet.
We've yet to hear that President Trump is conducting these one-on-one phone calls with Vladimir Putin.
I'll explain what happens to that in a minute here.
And, of course, we know tomorrow, Secretary Rubio, along with Steve Witkoff, who's been a direct envoy with Russia, as well as Mike Waltz, the National Security Advisor, are going to be in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, for a meeting directly with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov of Russia.
What does this mean?
Direct talks.
Now, Zelensky is also flying to Saudi Arabia, yet we're told that Zelensky didn't have an invitation to the summit.
Now, the Ukrainian side is saying, oh, well, this was a merely coincidence that he's going to be there on the same day.
We'll see how that plays out.
But I want to take you back to the night train to Odessa.
And I want to show you what it was like that night.
night.
And actually, I believe the first clip we have is the morning as we arrived in Kiev.
Now, at this point, I'd just like to say that as I was recording this, I had yet to know that there would be airstrikes taking place in Kiev that very day.
So let's play that first SOT1, the night trained Kiev.
We were here, Human Events Daily, just about three months into the outbreak of the Ukraine-Russia war.
And now, We're here again three years later.
You're here at the start.
Hopefully here.
What should be the end.
See the frost on the ground.
Some snow.
Not too much.
Smoke coming up from the chimneys as we pass by the villages and settlements outside of Kiev.
Later today...
Secretary Besant will be meeting with President Zelensky, presenting that new deal to him from President Trump in person, by the way.
Not going to Munich, not going to Vienna or Brussels, one of those places.
No.
We've come all the way here to Kiev, to the center of things, to the heart of the matter, to directly get down to business.
So that's where we're going to go today.
The house is now starting to get a bit larger.
We get closer and closer into Kiev proper.
So as you can see, those were settlements going from outside the outskirts of Kiev, getting in there.
A little bit warmer than I had expected.
They said that it was a bit of a winter thaw, because normally you'd think in February that those lands would be covered with ice and snow.
I don't really see much of that, and in fact...
Was able to walk around outside without a huge, thick winter jacket.
So, of course, we'll have to thank the Lord for that while we were there.
I've got another shot that I want to play for you, myself, actually, on the street after that initial meeting with the Ukrainian Prime Minister.
Here in Kiev, just had Secretary Besant meet with the Prime Minister of Ukraine, discussed the economic deal that he's looking to put forward for Ukraine and the United States.
He said he wants to intertwine the economy's continued material support for Ukraine from the United States side, as a signal both to the Ukrainian leadership and the Russian leadership that America does intend to support a fully independent Ukraine.
Sort of an interesting anecdote, but that actual street that I'm walking on right there, I remember taking a few photos of it, And that's the very same street that Tanya Tay and myself walked on on a visit to Kiev about eight years ago.
And now that was the summertime.
That was not wintertime.
But we were traveling.
We had a bit of a long layover.
And we were actually able to walk down that very same street.
I showed her the photo and I asked if she remembered it.
And she said exactly what I remember.
We were there with Secretary Besant.
You can see some of the security detail behind me in the photo.
But you can also see life going on as routine in Kiev.
You can see the pattern of life.
You can see the fact that people are dug in, that people want to see a potential end to this war, but they want to see it done so in the right way.
In Ukraine, the Ukrainians don't want to capitulate.
They want to see an end to the war.
That will put them in the best standpoint.
Now, what Secretary Besant went over with was a copy of this draft mineral deal.
And the mineral deal was something that, of course, that we saw Zelensky talk about.
We saw President Trump talk about it.
It's about these rare earth elements that exist on the territory of Ukraine.
Would the United States be able to recoup these loans, these guarantees to Ukraine, these billions and billions of dollars to Ukraine by getting this deal?
Well, that's exactly what Secretary Besant went over there to find out.
We'll tell you a little bit more about what happened after the break.
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So, folks, obviously, we're there in Ukraine.
At this point, we're going through our various meetings.
We're in the security area.
We get to the Ukrainian presidential palace, and I believe we do have some footage.
I know it's not one of the clips, guys, but I think we have some footage of me walking around outside there and then some shots of just in the room with the prime minister.
Because what I want to explain is that we couldn't actually film inside for security purposes.
Now, of course, people have seen the published images and videos of Secretary of Treasury Besant as well as Vladimir Zelensky.
But when you go into those offices, look, he's got secure information in there, sensitive information.
Remember, they're running a war.
They're running a war from inside these offices.
So guess what that means?
No cell phones.
So for about three hours, you're...
Your humble host, Poso here, was without his cell phone, without access to social media, what can I do?
That is the deal.
You want in?
That's how you get in.
So we were there with President Zelensky, with Secretary of the Treasury, Besson.
I'm standing pretty much right next to the camera when this conversation took place.
What you're looking at now on the screen was Secretary Besson and Zelensky immediately after the meeting.
When Zelensky said that he would not be signing the mineral deal with Besant that day, but instead would review and get back to it with JD Vance in Munich the next day.
So we've got a clip from the train on the way back to Poland here that I want to play for you now.
What Zelensky didn't know was that during that same time frame, President Trump was holding another conversation, a conversation directly with President Vladimir Putin.
Trump said in a post that went up almost coordinated to the very minute when we walked out of Zelensky's presidential offices.
He essentially was saying that the United States and Russia are going to look to work together on all partnerships, all cooperation, working together, not just to end the Ukraine war, but also...
Looking to potentially open the door towards renormalization of ties economically and otherwise between Russia and the West.
So rather than stay on the escalatory spiral of NATO and Russia going back and forth, try to find a way.
Off of that.
And President Trump said that he and Putin had a long conversation.
Putin emphasized the need for common sense, a refrain of President Trump's from during the campaign.
And also, very significantly, President Trump said that he agreed to host Putin in the United States as well as he himself, President Trump, travel to Russia.
This is something that a few years ago would have been unthinkable.
So what you're seeing there, I've gotten back on the train, the night train back to Poland, out of Kiev.
Some of my initial thoughts at hearing that the United States of America, through President Trump, newly elected president, is now holding one-on-one direct talk to Vladimir Putin to end the Ukraine war.
President Trump following through on his promise there to do so as quickly as possible.
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So we're going to get that Drudge Report post up in a second here.
I want to talk about the way that they're covering this deal.
I want to play the final clip that we have here from the night train to Kiev.
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The American people don't want any more war.
The American people don't want to see other countries put ahead of them.
The American people don't want to see these massive outflows of money from the United States to these endless wars.
And so if there's some economic viability project, this is of course what President Trump's plan was, talking about the minerals, other resources, a deal that could be done between the U.S. and Ukraine, that's something that perhaps the American people can get behind.
But this idea of continuing to find an endless war is simply not in the cards.
And so Zelensky going and acting like this thing can go on indefinitely.
I think it gravely underestimates the mood where the American people currently are.
I think it gravely underestimates his own leverage as he sits there in Kiev.
Now, President Trump has said he wants to end the war.
This is something that President Trump has always said, that the Russian state isn't some Middle Eastern country.
This isn't Iraq.
This isn't Afghanistan.
This isn't Libya.
This isn't North Korea.
This isn't some country that can just be pushed around because they're so small.
They are, in fact, a leading nuclear power and the leading nuclear power in the world.
A country where it makes sense, and President Trump has said this again and again, it makes sense for the United States and Russia to get along.
That was Secretary Besant and what they were telling us on that side of the trip.
Now, I want to tell you, and of course, as we learned about that, that's also when we found out that Zelensky, President Zelensky, would not be signing President Trump's deal.
And of course, raced to the phone there minutes after President Trump's truth post to get a call in to the White House.
Let's look at the Drudge Report right now in real time, and what do we see?
USA plan to stranglehold Ukraine.
A stranglehold.
And let's see.
This is up from the Telegraph.
Now, this is the UK's version of events.
So this is the globalist version.
And by the way, folks, this shows you the importance of having something like Human Events Daily, independent media there on the ground, actually able to show you what went down in this deal.
You heard my version of it.
Now let's hear the globalist spin.
Panic in Kiev as U.S. President demands higher share of GDP. Well, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Germany's first world war reparations, this was a situation where the United States was funding the war effort in Ukraine.
Almost $200 billion have gone to Ukraine.
So what President Trump and Secretary Bessner are looking at is a way to get a return on the investment, on a way to recoup.
The losses.
This isn't about reparations.
Why would Ukraine and Zelensky be paying reparations to the United States?
It makes no sense.
The globalist narrative from Drudge Report has no sense on its face.
It's completely backwards.
This is about recouping losses.
Which, by the way, if you want to get really interesting, why didn't the US get any money back for the Lend-Lease program for the billions and billions of dollars that FDR gave to who?
The Soviet Union.
Even before Pearl Harbor ever started.
But of course, we're not allowed to ask those kind of questions.
Again, what was really going on in those negotiations at the end of World War II? I'm not sure, but I do know that if there's negotiations going on vis-a-vis World War III, that human events is going to be there and I'm going to be in the room.
So what do we see here with the telegraph?
The telegraph, and this is how you know the globalists hate this plan.
The globalists hate this thing.
They want it out of there.
This is terrible.
They don't want it at all.
Donald Trump's plan for a $500 billion US payback from Ukraine goes far beyond US control over the country's critical minerals.
It covers everything from ports and infrastructure to oil and gas and the larger resource base of the country.
The terms of the contract that landed at Zelensky's office a week ago amount to the US economic colonization of Ukraine in legal perpetuity.
It implies a burden of reparations that cannot be possibly achieved.
The document has caused consternation and panic in Kiev.
The Telegraph has obtained a draft of the decisional contract.
Let's see.
Now, listen to this line, though.
It states the U.S. and Ukraine should form a joint investment fund to ensure that hostile parties to the conflict do not benefit from the reconstruction of Ukraine.
Now, what does that mean?
That means hostile parties.
What's that about?
That's about keeping China out.
That's about setting it up so that China isn't involved.
And by the way, I'm not even going to sit here right now and say whether or not I'm for this deal or against this deal because that's not what I'm trying to do right now.
I'm trying very hard to just accurately depict what the deal was and what the deal is not.
Honestly, I'm not even sure if this is in the United States' interest.
Certainly, getting rare earth interminerals, getting this stuff from Ukraine is in the U.S. interest.
Is it really worth it?
I'm not sure.
But obviously, I would like to see something for the American people.
The idea, though, is we don't want World War III happening.
That is the price.
That is the cost that we're getting here.
The value is that we don't have nuclear annihilation.
But hostile parties to the conflict do not benefit from the reconstruction of Ukraine.
That is all about keeping China out.
So no China.
Don't want China at all.
Don't want any of this getting in because we know China wants to get in there with the backfill.
And by the way, if Ukraine brings China in, if Zelensky brings China in, then what a slap in the face that would be to the United States after the United States paid, again, $200 billion humanitarian aid, the war effort, and even financing for the Ukrainian government.
And as a matter of fact, the Ukrainian pension system.
Even the Ukrainian pension system.
Was on this at one point.
That's what we need to get into, folks.
That's what we need to explain.
That's what we need to get into for everyone.
And so for them saying it's reparations, no, it's not reparation.
It's not reparation, okay?
There's no reparations at all.
When we're looking at this piece, joint venture, U.S., Ukraine, If there's going to be a further agreement, if there's going to be a further relationship, if there's going to be a further...
Look, if you want this relationship to continue between the US and Ukraine, there's got to be some benefit to the American people.
And that's what President Trump is coming in and saying.
That's what President Trump is saying for this.
Because if there isn't a direct benefit for the American people, then why would the US be directly involved?
It's not our business.
It just isn't.
It's a feud that's been going on for, in some cases, hundreds of years, in some cases, certainly for the last 30 years.
Ukrainians, Russians, this is all going back to the fall of the Soviet Union.
Where do the borders lie?
Where does it all go?
In fact, my family, the Posobiec family, is from a very small village that's very close to where the current border between Ukraine and Poland is.
That's the current border.
It didn't used to be the border.
It didn't used to be a border town, but it is now.
It's actually not far from.
In fact, because of the security concerns for the trip over, I wasn't even able to inform my Polish cousins that I was going to be in town, even though at one point I was about 35 minutes away from the village.
It is what it is, folks.
What can I say?
Sorry, guys.
I'll let you know next time.
But when it really comes down to it, when it really comes down to it, This is about an understanding of cutting through all of the BS. The leaders of Europe, guess what?
You didn't pay for this thing.
You didn't put up for this thing.
And that's why President Trump is cutting you out.
You're not in the room.
What are you going to do about it?
Trudeau?
Macron?
Trudeau's Canada, obviously.
But the point is, these guys who want to bark about this, who want to complain about this, Olaf Scholz, Donald Tusk, over in the liberal globalist...
Polish minister?
No.
No.
This is about peace, and this is about the United States getting a peace for themselves.
That's a little play on words.
You get peace, and we get a peace.
That's what we're doing here.
And so President Trump understands, by the way, the development of these resources would come in from U.S. firms, and the Ukrainian people would also benefit, which I don't see anything on the Telegraph piece about that at all.
I don't see anything in the Telegraph piece pointing out that actually the government of Ukraine would also get 50% of the return on investment here.
So it isn't just that the U.S. would get it.
It would be that the U.S. would be sharing it with Ukraine.
That's not reparations.
That's not how that works.
This all goes back to the idea of President Trump as a businessman looking at the United States as a business and thinking about, look, you guys get peace, but we want a peace too.
Be right back.
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They're going to be, by the way, at National Harbor starting Wednesday.
I got a crazy week, so I'm going to be at Mar-a-Lago tomorrow for General Flynn's event.
Then I'm going straight to CPAC at Gaylord National Harbor in Washington, D.C. So I'll be there Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, probably Saturday and Sunday as well.
President Trump is going to be there, I believe.
Then we've also got Steve Bannon, the Force Multiplier Academy on Wednesday.
Doing the show from there.
Hope to see you there very soon as well because it's going to be an incredible day.
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There was a comment about ending democracy.
A little comment that I made that Bill Maher and Joy Reid certainly didn't like.
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What do you think?
Should we go for it again?
I think we can go even bigger this time around.
What do you say?
We'll find out on Wednesday.
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And look, folks, when it comes down to it, we have to understand.
That our world is a constant state of flux.
We are living on a knife's edge.
Nuclear war was on the ballot on November 5th.
That's no joke.
Missiles are still raining down on Kyiv.
In fact, including the day that I was there with Secretary Besson.
Real people are dying.
Real people are caught up in this mess.
This is a real war.
And your tax dollars are funding it.
Your tax dollars are paying for it, including the politicians that are involved, including whatever side deals are involved.
We know that there are issues, which I told you about three years ago, three years ago, about the black market for arms that was coming out of Ukraine when we went there the first time with my brother, with Kevin Posobiec.
And it was just the two of us on the train.
And no, we did not have a security delegation that time.
We didn't have Secret Service with the long rifles.
We didn't have these other guys.
Coming around the military with the rocket-propelled grenades.
We didn't have any of this stuff.
We had the two of us, a lot of cash, and a couple of microphones and cameras.
So look, that's what we do.
That's what we do here on Human Events Daily.
And again, absolute honor, absolute responsibility.
So this is what we're here doing on Human Events Daily every day and what we will Continue to do.
Because we know what's coming next, folks.
Next, in Saudi Arabia, there's going to be the sit-down between the foreign ministers.
And then coming up after that, President Trump will meet with Vladimir Putin.
And Putin, he has said also, by the way, will come to America.
So if President Trump is going to Moscow, well, who knows?
Maybe Human Events Daily will have to go to Moscow, too.
That Putin is coming to Washington, D.C., and we'll be here to tell you the truth about what goes on.
Because I remember, I'll never forget, being at the Putin-Trump summit in Helsinki in 2018. I remember being there, and we'd brought, Tanya and I had even brought Jack-Jack, and they were out walking around the harbor while I was inside the presidential palace.
They had the meeting.
It was perfunctory.
There was some argument, some disagreement about Nord Stream 2.
And then Jim Acosta goes up on CNN and starts screaming about treason, starts screaming about President Trump has sold out the United States for having a conversation with the largest nuclear power in the world.
And so the question is, when these negotiations are going on, what role does the mainstream media play?
What role does the corporate media play?
We know from past experience that the role they play is bad acting.
The role they play...
Are the people who are trying to gum up the works of peace.
Why?
Because there's no money in peace.
It's war.
War is the racket.
And so the warmongers and those that benefit from it and their corporate sponsors and their corporate money pushers, this is the narrative that they want to spread.
The narrative that you must be at war.
That we must be at war.
Even nuclear war.
It doesn't matter.
Don't worry about that.
We'll win.
Maybe even saw this at some points where they were floating these insane ideas like we could survive a limited nuclear strike.
Are you kidding me?
With the hypersonic glide vehicles that they now have?
The ability to cut through radar, cut through early warning systems?
This isn't the Cold War anymore with the dew line up in Canada and Greenland, by the way.
Of course, we're not going to be free.
By the way, by the way, Secretary Hexeth.
There's another base that needs to get renamed.
It's up there in Greenland.
It's called Fool Air Base.
That needs to be there.
Look, ladies and gentlemen, MAGA World Peace will prevail.
The promises that were made will be kept.
And the warmongers can take a hike.
Because this is the peace administration.
This is the era of peace.
But be warned.
Be warned.
If anyone gets in our way, then they will understand the full might and full fury of the true American military, Undersecretary Pegseth, that is transforming this soft, bloated organization into a true warfighting, capable, and lethal organization once more.
That's part of making America great again.
Because if you have a strong military, you will have a strong country.
And if you have a prosperous country, that is the strongest country of all.
Sincerely honored to be part of this trip, to be a part of history.
Thank you to everyone for being here, for helping this.
Again, to the Charlie Kirk audience for tuning in, hour three.