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Pete Hegseth DOMINATES Senate Confirmation Hearing
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Anno Domini.
Pete Hegseth, absolutely dominating.
In his Senate confirmation hearing today, the first confirmation hearing of any of President Trump's nominees.
And look, right out of the bat, that's who you've got.
You've got someone who's bold.
You've got someone who is clearly spoken, someone who speaks with clarity, someone who speaks on behalf of the warfighter, someone who's not afraid to admit when he's made mistakes, someone who's not there to say that he's perfect, but someone who's willing to say that he wants to put the interests of the American warfighter and the American veteran First.
And isn't that a breath of fresh air?
I really think it is.
And I certainly think it is.
That's what we've needed for a long time in this country.
And look, Pete Hegseth, what did he tell us up front?
He said that his main mission, his top mission, was to take down Well, we've already seen that he's well on the way to achieving that on day one because you keep hearing over and over and over throughout these hearings that he refuses to affirm wokeness,
that he refuses to affirm that men and women are physically and biologically capable of the exact same things, particularly under the stresses of combat.
Actually, I've got a quick clip.
Let's play it right here.
Senator Gillibrand, where she talks about this.
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should be allowed to serve without limitation.
You've said yes to that question.
But then in all of these other circumstances, you've denigrated active duty service members.
We have hundreds, hundreds of women who are currently in the infantry, lethal members of our military serving in the infantry.
But you degrade them.
You say, we need moms, but not in the military, especially in combat units.
We need moms in combat units.
That's Kirsten Gillibrand.
This is where the wages of wokeness will take you.
We need moms in combat units.
Imagine, Sidney, I was watching this with Tanya Tay earlier today.
I was not in the office.
I was home because we were dealing with some sick kids back home.
A little bit of that Novavirus going around.
And Tanya Tay has been an absolute...
Warrior, by the way, not on the front lines of the battlefield in, I don't know, Afghanistan or Ukraine.
She's been a warrior at home taking care of the kids because they're sick with Novavirus.
But even Tanya pointed out, she said to me, what kind of a country sends moms to the front lines?
What kind of a country has government officials and puts this as their top priority that moms need to be sent into?
The battlefield and sent into war.
It's ridiculous.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
But yet that is the situation for the people, at least, who are losing.
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Senator Johnson, how are you?
Well Jack, I'm doing well.
How about yourself?
Doing well.
A lot of fireworks from the Senate side of Washington today.
Obviously, I know you're not on the Armed Services Committee, but wanted to know if you had any comment on Pete Hegseth, President Trump's nominee for Secretary of Defense, and this really whirlwind hearing that just finished moments ago.
I wasn't able to watch snippets in between my meetings.
And first of all, I think Pete did really well.
I think the Democrats sounded incredibly shrill.
If anything, they were leveling more of an indictment against the Biden administration and how poorly they've run the Pentagon.
And I agree with you.
Pete's goal is to make sure we remove wokeness from the military, that we focus on lethality, that we support the men and women, the warfighters.
He's one of them.
He represents them, and I think that's necessary at the top.
He can hire the management skill, and he will.
He understands he needs to do that.
But I think just the symbol of him being Secretary of Defense, somebody who's been in the trenches, who's faced danger, who will have the backs of the finest among us, the men and women of our military, I think that will be a powerful recruitment symbol, but it'll also be, I think, powerful from the people who are currently serving.
Well, and I think really, too, there are a lot of questions when it comes to Secretary of Defense.
I noticed that there weren't a lot of questions about the Use of our military.
Now, certainly those political questions and that strategy goes through the president, and that's his direction.
But, you know, for a nominee who's going to be in charge of the warfighters, we really didn't get a lot of questions about the use of our military.
A lot of questions about foreign policy, certainly hardly any questions about Afghanistan, hardly any questions about Ukraine.
In fact, it was Pete Hegseth himself that tended to bring that up much more than certainly any of the Democrat senators.
Well, what I would really like to know is what this administration's approach is going to be in terms of defense spending.
You know, Eisenhower warned us about the military-industrial complex.
I think one of the facts that came out during the Ukraine war, Russia can build about 4.5 million or produce 4.5 million of these 155 millimeter shells at about 600 bucks a pop.
The West in total can only produce about 2 million.
In the U.S. they cost 6,000.
In Europe, it's about 8,000 euros.
So again, we are getting hosed by the military industrial complex.
I would really like to see Elon Musk devote a lot of his effort in terms of bringing efficiency to our procurement process and making sure that what we are...
Purchasing, A, we get at a good cost, so we're not getting hosed.
But secondly, just completely rethink what it is we're buying.
We buy these platforms that can be taken out with an asymmetric drone or now hypersonic missile.
Are we factoring that in?
Are we taking a look at the way the war is really being waged in Ukraine with drones that render our Abrams tanks somewhat useless?
So, again, we need a complete rethinking.
I'm hoping he employs people like Eric Prince, who wrote an excellent piece.
Are we too big to win?
I recommend everybody read that piece.
Really puts this into focus.
But how we spend the money is probably more important than how much we actually spend.
Senator, I couldn't agree more.
I was asked about this question a couple of days ago in an interview.
And, you know, I heard some comments about, oh, well, you know, we need to help Ukraine win on the battlefield, and we just need to send them more money and send them more weapons.
And, you know, I kind of turned around and said, where are they coming from?
Because we've already had our admirals in the Pacific telling us that our fleet is starting to run low on munitions, particularly anti-aircraft missiles and these SM2s that are used, that are, by the way, have been used to quite effect in the Red Sea against the Houthis.
We're already hearing...
Talk from our units and garrison here in the United States regarding artillery shells and the fact that those keep being sent over to Ukraine.
So I guess my question is, where is all this coming from?
Because we don't even have, in some cases, the manufacturing capacity, let alone the retention in our own stockpiles to go into this stuff.
So it's either you're going to talk more spending, you're going to talk manufacturing, potentially procurement from overseas.
I'm not even really sure.
That's going to be a huge question.
Certainly, something that I think that when we talk about waste, fraud, and abuse, we can also talk about what should our priorities be when it comes to spending.
And certainly, we know who's benefiting quite greatly from these wars, and it tends to be the people that are being paid to fight them.
Well, first of all, one thing Washington, D.C. is not particularly good at is recognizing reality.
And the first, awful reality.
I don't like it.
Is Vladimir Putin will not lose this war.
He won't lose it.
Again, they can outproduce this in terms of 155-millimeter shells.
They have almost an endless supply of young men that they're willing to send as cannon fodder.
So he's not going to lose this war.
So accept that reality, end it.
Also accept the reality that we can't resupply it.
We can't restock it.
I think one of the most depraved explanations for sending another $100 billion to Ukraine was given inside the beltway here, saying that Oh, this money is really not going to Ukraine.
It's going to create jobs in your state.
Listen, I'm all for jobs in America here, but at the expense of the young lives in Russia and Ukraine, I take no joy that Russian conscripts are dying in that just meat grinder of a stalemate.
So again, you have to face those realities.
And again, we have to ask ourselves some real hard questions.
How much money are we You know, fueling into the military industrial complex.
To what extent are we not getting our money's worth?
I'd say we're not getting our money's worth at all.
And we've got to really rethink what it is we really need to procure.
No, I think that's exactly right.
And, you know, when it comes down to it, we're...
Really seeing this from a lot of President Trump's transformational nominees.
So you hear that from Pete Heggs that he's a combat veteran.
Obviously, President Trump chose J.D. Vance, another global war on terror veteran, to be his vice president.
He was resoundingly elected.
And I think a lot of people later came on board saying that J.D. Vance was a fantastic pick for vice president.
And of course, he drew upon those experiences.
And not only that, but also the lies that were...
We're told to sell that war that he thought that he was signing up for, that he was going to be going over and serving the country and serving his nation.
And he was happy to do so and proud to do so.
And certainly, Pete Hegseth said that again and again when he was on.
When he was on the stand in his hearing today, and it's something that we've got a couple of minutes before the break, but Tulsi Gabbard as well, who's going to be coming up, this is a position where, look, she's not with Republicans on every issue across the board.
When it comes to these issues of national security, she draws on her own experience as a combat veteran.
Bobby Kennedy keeps reminding us that his uncle, JFK, said that the number one priority, that the top job responsibility of the President of the United States was to keep America Out of wars.
And from my standpoint, you get war fighters in these positions.
They understand that war is hell.
They're going to want to try and keep America out of wars.
And I think of any president that during my lifetime, I think Donald Trump is probably the person the least likely to engage us in war.
And the prime example is when I ran down the drone and the war drums were beating and everybody, you've got to retaliate.
At the very end, President Trump finally asked the relevant question.
First of all, how much did that drone cost?
A couple million bucks.
How many people are going to die retaliating?
A couple hundred.
And he made the correct decision saying, you know, I don't think a couple million dollar drone is worth the loss of that kind of life.
He stood down.
It wasn't popular for him to stand down, but that's exactly what we expect in terms of a leader.
So, you know, President Trump does not want to fight wars.
He wants to achieve peace through strength.
And that starts with economic strength.
That starts with a unified nation, with people who are You know, are high in spirits again, looking to build America up as opposed to just ride out the decline of America, which is what we were doing over the last four years.
That's exactly right.
This idea that we would have a managed decline or this idea that we could constantly go to the Fed or constantly go to the international markets and say, oh, you're going to buy our debt, you're going to buy our T-bills, and we're going to just be able to keep spending into oblivion.
Well, at some point, the rubber does actually have to meet the road.
And at some point, if our expenditures and even our debt service become so much higher to our GDP ratio, then we are going to suddenly get into very dire straits.
This is how empires fall.
This is imperial overstretch.
This is the problem that so many of these nations run into.
And in Washington, it feels like they don't have this connection with reality that you've talked about, Senator.
We're speaking with Senator Ron Johnson, the great state of Wisconsin.
We'll be right back here, Human Events Daily.
Pete Hegseth absolutely giving this whirlwind performance there in the United States Senate.
We'll be right back.
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All right, Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.
We're back on with Senator Ron Johnson, the great state of Wisconsin.
Now, Senator, I should ask you a point of policy here, a point of procedure, because I've got people asking in the comments, they're saying, so does this mean that Pete Hegseth is now confirmed?
Is he done?
Does he have to do more?
Obviously, this was not the confirmation vote, and in fact, there's a series of votes that need to take place.
Can you take a second and just walk the audience through how these processes work?
Sure.
Well, you know, he obviously meets with senators and then he, you know, gets in front of the committee on the hearing.
And if he performs well there, if, you know, they don't see anything in background check, and I don't think they have, and, you know, he does well in the hearings, that pretty well sets the stage then for a confirmation vote.
There'll be a vote on cloture, then a vote on confirmation.
It takes about four hours total.
And that's, you know, if they run the clock on all these things, that's just, you know, four hours, four hours, four hours.
You can combine a vote.
For confirmation of the vote of cloture.
So they kind of speed it up that way.
But there's just a process you have to go through.
It's a simple majority vote because Harry Reid basically employed the nuclear option to back the DC court.
So now all nominations are confirmed with just 51 votes.
So again, my expectation is President Trump's nominees will be confirmed.
So you think generally all of them will be?
That's my expectation.
Again, we respect the convincing victory of President Trump.
He's the guy who selects who he wants serving in his administration.
We're not president.
He is.
And I think the stats go back.
I think Tom Kahn has been pointing this out, that I think only two nominees in many, many years have not gotten all the votes of all the United States senators.
It's pretty remarkable.
So again, the default position of both sides when they're guys in the White House.
Or gals in the White House would be to confirm the nominees he puts forward.
Well, I think that's exactly right.
And I think that when you see a tectonic victory like President Trump had back in just a couple of weeks ago here, we're acting as if the political winds haven't changed or that the American people certainly haven't had their voice told.
This was a popular vote.
I personally believe that he probably did get over 50 percent, but I know the AP likes to keep it at 49.9 just to deny that.
But he did win the popular vote.
He won all seven of the swing states.
Is a mandate delivered by the American people?
Now, of course, he's going to have to deliver on that mandate and fulfill that mandate, but the mandate is certainly there, and these are the people that he's chosen, whether it's Pete Hegseth, whether it's RFK Jr., whether it's Tulsi Gabbard, and one that I wanted to ask you about as well, Russ Vogt over at OMB. The Washington Post came out yesterday and released this endorsement list basically coming out and saying they endorsed just about all of the nominees with the exceptions of RFK, Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, and Russ Vogt.
For a lot of folks, they say the Office of Management and Budget, you know, it's not really something that is on anyone's top of their bingo card.
I don't know if it's going to get the same ratings as the Secretary of Defense hearing, but Senator, walk us through the importance of OMB and the wider budgeting process when it comes to Washington.
First of all, I could not have been more pleased when I heard that President Trump is going to re-nominate Russ Vogt to be director of OMB. It is a crucial position.
He's in charge of the budget, but he's also in charge of making sure that all the decisions of the executive branch can be implemented.
Regulations, again, it's a crucial decision.
And to have somebody with Russ Vogt's experience, plus his dedication to trying to reduce the size, scope, and cost of government will be crucial.
One of the things I think the most important thing President Trump has to do is...
Return us to pre-pandemic levels of spending.
I wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal pointing out that in 2019, total federal spending was $4.4 trillion.
And we have COVID. We hopped up to $6.6 trillion in 2020. We've never really come down off that level.
We've gone dip down below, but for the last five years, we've averaged $6.5 trillion.
That's $2.1 trillion higher than the $4.4 trillion.
Jack, that's absurd.
That's like of a family.
They'll make 100 grand, has an illness.
Now we've got $50,000 for the medical bills.
That person gets well.
In the next four years, they keep spending 150,000 bucks.
Nobody would do that.
By the way, borrowing the money all the way, but that's exactly what the federal government has done.
So what President Trump has to do is embrace and fight for a spending level that will dramatically reduce.
The size, scope, and cost of government exists today.
And I've laid out a number of options.
If you'd go back to, for example, 1998, Bill Clinton's spending levels, increase them by population and inflation, and use today's Social Security, Medicare, and interest numbers, you'd be spending $5.5 trillion this year as opposed to $7 trillion.
If you go back to President Obama's 2014 budget, do the same thing, we'd be at $6.2 trillion.
If you use President Trump's own budget...
His last budget for spending for 2025, again, he used Social Security, Medicare, and interest as they are today, that'd be $6 trillion.
So I'm just trying to lay out the rationale.
We should not be spending any more than $5.5 to $6 trillion this year, and that should be used as our baseline for our 10-year budget in the future.
Again, $7 trillion is completely unacceptable.
Biden budgeted $7.3 trillion for this year, again, compared to $4.4 trillion only five years ago.
It's ridiculous.
There's no justification for it.
And I am just, I'm going to be pushing hard for this, again, returning to a pre-pandemic level spending, which is what every family, every business in America would do, just not the federal government who has the power to print money and devalue your currency.
One final thought.
1998 dollars now worth 51 cents.
A 2014 dollars now worth 74 cents.
A 2019 dollars worth 80 cents.
That's what this massive printing of money, this massive death of spending has done.
It's devalued our currency, primarily hitting.
It's a very aggressive thing to do.
It is the tax on poor people in the middle class, but primarily hitting poor people.
Well, actually, Senator, we had the great Glenn Jacobs on here a couple of weeks ago and we were doing, funny enough, so we just had the Christmas season and we did an entire special on It's a Wonderful Life.
And we were talking about the film and we were sort of going through the ins and outs of it and, you know, the different depictions of really America.
And, of course, everyone remembers that there's this crucial element in the story where...
George Bailey's character loses $8,000.
He lost $8,000.
And that's a lot of money, right?
You wouldn't want to lose $8,000.
I certainly wouldn't want to lose $8,000.
But that film came out just after World War II. And we looked it up when we said it was 1946. And so what I was saying is what we need to do with these old movies is you need to bring in sort of an inflation converter.
We call it the Bidenflation Converter and have it pop up anytime someone in these old movies mentions an amount of money.
And so that dollar amount, I looked it up.
Actually, we were live on the show.
And I looked, I said, what is $8,000 in today's money?
And, you know, it goes back and forth depending on how you calculate the inflation, but it's somewhere around $135,000 today.
So when we see the film and we say $8,000, we're like, oh my gosh, you know, and then of course, as we all know, it leads George Bailey to contemplate suicide and he's yelling at his family and then the angel comes in.
We know how the film goes.
But we realize that there's a reason that for some reason when we hear those numbers, $8,000 doesn't resonate the way that it would have in just 1946. That's not even that long ago.
That's within living memory.
And so I keep saying there's another one of these in Bells of St. Mary's and a number of these other old movies, these classics, that it's actually a way to teach people about inflation because you realize that that was an incredibly significant amount of money to...
Our grandparents' generation, our parents' generation, and yet we don't even realize how far it's come.
So perhaps that can be my contribution to help explain to people that when you use the old movies, it's actually a great filter for understanding this stuff.
It really is.
And again, I actually just looked at this myself.
You know, it was the value of a dollar.
The value of a 1930 dollar, I think, is worth the nickel today.
That's how much we devalue the currency, which pretty well goes along with about 1946, about the same measurement.
That is what we've done.
And again, it makes sense to have a very small level of inflation, which is better than deflation.
You don't want to have deflation because people put off purchasing things waiting for the price to drop.
So you always want a small level of inflation so people say, let me buy it before the price gets higher.
That's good for economic activity.
But you do not want to have this kind of hyperinflation as we've had just relentlessly because, again, the federal government spends more than it brings in.
It prints dollars.
Too many dollars chasing too few goods.
That is what inflation, that's devaluation, devaluation of currency in a primary.
It's very regressive.
It primarily hits the middle class and poor people.
Rich people can tolerate it.
And so this is something, too.
And what's so insidious about inflation.
Is that because it's an invisible tax.
It's a phantom tax.
It's something where people can go and look at their bank account.
I was just having this conversation with a family member the other day and saying, when your money is sitting in your bank account, you think, okay, my money's there.
I haven't spent it, so it's the same amount.
But it's actually not.
It's actually not year on year because it doesn't go as far.
It goes...
You know, it doesn't go as far.
It goes nearer and nearer.
So the dollar would go further in a deflationary environment, but that's not what we have.
So the dollar doesn't go as far.
So you're losing amounts of that dollar every single day when you leave it in there.
And of course, the people want to do this.
And, you know, this is, you know, I don't want to turn the program too much into Dave Ramsey here, but, you know, you can go and check him out.
And he's got some...
Fantastic tips for how to deal with that and how to try to deal with inflation and the difference between keeping your money and checking and savings and the rest of this.
But I think that as well, though, a lot of government, and to your point, Senator, a lot of government hasn't really wrapped their minds around, and a lot of people in government, in Washington at least, have actually understanding the implications of this for the middle class, or worse, they know about it and just don't care.
Again, if you had $100,000 in your bank account at the start of the pandemic, now it's only worth $80,000.
It's like the government came and taxed $20,000 out of your $100,000 bank account.
That is what happened.
Okay, and people ought to be pretty ticked off about it.
But again, because it is silent, you didn't have to write a check.
It's not being withheld.
It's just done automatically because of this massive inflation.
$100,000 you held in the start of 2020 is now worth $80,000.
All right.
And then we all lived through the pandemic.
And guess what?
The pandemic made trillion the new billion.
So we used to hearing billion, billion, billion.
But pre-pandemic, we weren't really used to hearing trillion unless it was maybe just the U.S. budget.
That was the only thing.
Now, all of a sudden, trillion-dollar spending packages are coming down.
And suddenly, that is the norm.
Senator Johnson, where can people go to learn more about this and follow your work?
As said, Ron Johnson on X. We're pretty easy to find.
But you're exactly right in terms of, you know, how this is affecting Americans and everybody has to be aware of it.
I couldn't agree more.
Thank you very much, Senator, for your words, for sharing some time with us here on this historic day.
Just six days out from President Trump's return to the White House.
We'll be there.
Will you be?
Let us know.
Where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting policies.
I've often said that gender-affirming care is health care, it is mental health care, and it can actually be suicide prevention care.
I think I'm gonna take some medicine so I can kind of like transform into a boy, get surgery.
After the surgery, I didn't really feel any better.
When it stopped being a thing for adults, and it started to be a let's teach this to kids.
Total lie.
Manipulation.
It's gaslighting.
Please stop.
He's a boy, not a girl.
How could she do this to my son?
What they're talking about is hormonal therapy or sex reassignment surgery on children.
I thought fixing me externally would fix me internally.
But of course I was wrong.
The fact that the state thinks that they're more important and have a better say in what happens to your child over the actual parent's opinion is egregious.
Puberty blockers, surgeries, big money makers for hospitals, for physicians.
All I want to do is hold my son.
Are you asking me to lie to parents?
And he said, yes.
This is an weaponized use of a parent's sympathy and caring and concern by the left to destroy your child.
Let's tell kids that maybe they can be the opposite sex.
Maybe they actually are the opposite sex.
It is an evil thing to tell children that happiness lies on the other side of puberty blockers or double mastectomies.
The left so badly wants to blur these lines.
That's a five alarm fire.
It's criminal.
What happens when identity takes over biology?
The new film, Identity Crisis.
Has just dropped from Daily Wire Plus, and we've got on one of the people who's featured prominently not just in the film, but also in the trailer that you saw, my friend Chloe Cole.
Chloe, how are you?
I'm doing great.
How are you doing?
I'm doing very well.
It was great to see you at AmFest, by the way.
I was going to meet you there.
No, that was so good.
So when we're looking at this film, tell me why you felt that this was the right project to get involved in and why you felt that now is the time to really put this into a documentary.
I feel like this documentary was so important because it goes into depth about how, about all the, on medical, on how it tears away families.
How it's infecting our institutions, and it takes from a bunch of different perspectives of people like me who have transitioned into the process, who have been damaged by it, by doctors, by parents, who have seen this happen firsthand with their children.
And a lot of people still believe that this is not happening, that this is just too crazy to be going on in our medical system.
So they have to see.
The damage for what it is.
I could talk all day about the things I have been through, what the doctors did to me, but it will never do as much justice as seeing it.
And so we realize that you coming forward in this is a huge issue for the people that have been pushing this all for so long.
Because people, again, and we've had you on before, and you've talked about how the way the doctors explain it is that it's going to help you.
It's going to make you better.
They talk about it as gender-affirming.
You need to affirm yourself.
And then they go to the parents and they say, this will make your child's life better.
And I was...
I was just talking earlier about how our little boys at home, they've got a little stomach bug going around.
It's kind of in the East Coast right now.
There's a big Novavirus thing going around.
It's like a 24-hour deal, but it stinks.
You can't keep anything down.
When you see your child sick, when you see your child going through something, even when it's just a bug like that, as a parent, you want to do anything you can to make them feel better.
It causes you that type of emotional distress, that type of psychological distress, to want them to feel better.
And unfortunately, it seems that this industry...
Plays on those fears and plays on those parental instincts to drive them to this extreme behavior, which, by the way, they have a profit incentive already built in for.
Absolutely.
I mean, they play on really the single biggest fear that a parent could ever have regarding their child.
No parent ever wants to see their child sick or even outlive them.
A lot that they told my mom and dad and that they continue to tell to millions of parents across the country and across the West is that they are dealing with a potentially suicidal or dead daughter or son and that the only way out for them Is to allow them to embark on the medical transition process, which is completely irreversible, which is dangerous, especially for a developing body.
And they only talk about things like affirmation, gender euphoria, happiness in your transition, but they never really ever talk about the negative effects of how these treatments will actually affect the body.
We have no data really long-term about how this actually impacts the system's body.
So they're experimenting on these children entirely.
And they never talk about the fact that transition could actually lead your child to suicide.
I was not suicidal until I began on these treatments.
And when I decided to come out of this, when I told my doctors that it was making me worse, that my health was compromised, that I didn't want to be a part of this any longer, I was completely ignored.
And they didn't know what to do with me.
They didn't want to look at me.
They didn't want to look at the mistake that they had made.
And so, when it comes to that point, when suddenly you're saying, hold on a second, you know, I've got some questions, how do they react when you tell them that you think that something's gone wrong?
Well...
For the most part, I got a very nonchalant response from a lot of my doctors when I told them about the regret, about choosing to go back and going off of hormones and such.
They never really helped me with any part of the medical process of stopping.
I had no guidance, so I had to figure all the medical parts of it out basically on my own.
The psychologist who offered me the surgery, who told me, well, aren't you sure?
Are you sure this is what you want to do?
You don't think that this is just another part of your transition or perhaps that you're non-binary?
Almost as if she was trying to still keep me in the system.
And there is no acknowledgment of people like me in the medical system of detransition or the people who go through it.
There's no standards of care.
There are no codes written.
So even if doctors want to help, chances are they might be afraid to because you're effectively just continuing the experimentation that's already happened.
And so, I just want to be clear about what you just said, that when you started going to your therapist, so someone who's supposed to be there to help you with what you're going through in your life, their response was to almost reject what you were telling them?
Yes.
I mean, it was just treated as almost like a normal outcome.
And when I asked for things like regular blood tests or even changing my sex marker in the system back to female or changing my name back, they refused to do so.
I still get letters and emails from my old healthcare provider referring to me as a young man named Leo.
And again, that just shows what it is, because to your point, They got you in the system, and then their job isn't to help you get out of the system and go on to live a productive life.
It's to keep you in the system.
And it's not actually a glitch or a mistake.
It's not a bug.
It's a feature.
The minute you try to get out of the system...
As you say, it sounds like they just try to trap you in.
They try to keep you in.
And in some cases, literally, they still have you on paper in their system.
We've got a quick break, but I want to come back and talk a little bit more about the documentary because...
This is evil.
What they're doing is actual evil.
It's an evil that goes on in our nation.
We need to call this out the way we've called out other evils.
And it's not something that you can sit back and just be silent about.
And so that's why I'm so honored to have Chloe on and so many others in this like this film coming out because it's that important Jack is a great guy He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country cry again.
Amen.
All right, Jack.
So we're back.
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So we're talking to Chloe Cole.
The new movie is just out on Daily Wire Plus.
It is Identity Crisis.
Chloe, I've got to say though, by the way, not necessarily, not necessarily that it's all gone away, but there's been a lot of corporations since you have come out and gone public with your work and what you've done, this crusade that you've been on, and that's what it is, a crusade.
You're like the Joan of Arc in so many ways.
Look, you've got Mark Zuckerberg.
They're scared of you, Chloe, because you got Zuckerberg up there on Rogan saying we're rolling this all out and it wasn't my fault.
We're so sorry.
And he's doing his little sob story up there.
I don't quite buy it yet with him.
But then Bezos has come out with Amazon saying they're adjusting their policy public statements, removing commitments to transgender rights.
And even McDonald's, even McDonald's scrapping DEI policies, including the trans rights.
I guess I have.
I was going to say something.
When I was getting Happy Meals when I was a kid, I never wanted the girls' toy.
I never walked up and was like, oh, because they used to have that.
Do they still have that?
I don't know.
We don't really do McDonald's with my kids, but do they still do the girls' and the boys' toys because they used to have separate ones?
I never wanted the girls' stuff.
It just wasn't a thing.
Yeah, I don't know if they're still doing those.
I haven't been a kid in a while.
But yeah, it's been wonderful to see all the progress that we've made.
And I'm very proud to have been a small part of it.
And of course, the documentary features a lot of people who have been a part of it.
And we would not have gotten here without them.
Wait, I actually just looked this up.
This is amazing.
So I'm looking it up.
Forbes has a report that in 2021 said that a few years ago, McDonald's changed their policy.
And now instructs employees to provide the choice of toys by theme and not the gender of the child.
But, of course, you know, look, it's like you would have Barbie and Hot Wheels at the same time.
And, you know, I guess there's some girls that are into Hot Wheels.
And by the way, that's totally fine.
It's called being a tomboy if you want to play some Hot Wheels.
Yeah, it's not a huge issue.
But I think the flip side of it, though, is...
Boys playing with Barbies, that's not exactly something that you normally see.
I never wanted to go for the Barbies.
My boys, they go for the Hot Wheels.
That's amazing.
I didn't realize that this used to be a thing.
They stopped doing this.
Probably, I'm sorry, this is like, they're like, Jack, we're supposed to be talking about the movie.
I know, but I had no idea they stopped doing the gendered toys.
Well, I guess I'm not taking my kids to McDonald's anytime soon.
Not that I have any.
Hopefully they roll these changes out before I have any.
This is what we're going to have to do.
I just realized this.
This is what we're going to have to do.
We are going to have to call for McDonald's to fully bring back male toys and female toys.
There are two genders.
McDonald's used to uphold this.
It used to be a completely normal thing.
And by the way, it didn't just used to be a normal thing.
It is a normal thing.
It is the actual thing.
There have only ever been two genders.
By the way, this came up during Pete Hegseth's confirmation because he was up there.
And obviously that's not in the film, but there was this comment, which is incredible, where Kirsten Gillibrand was asking, you know, you don't want women in combat, and you don't want women on the front lines, and we need to draft moms and all this stuff.
And I was looking up the votes of all the Democrats, and for all the ones that are there, they all voted for Rachel Levin to be the Admiral of the Health and Human Services Department.
And so I would have loved to have, referencing another Daily Wire movie here, but I would have loved to have Pete Hegseth say, Senator, you keep using that word, but I wonder if you could define it.
Which word is that?
Woman.
What is a woman, Senator?
Can you define that term?
Because you keep saying you want women in the battlefield and women can do everything that men can do.
So you clearly have a very specific thought about the differences between men and women.
So can you please just define what a woman is for us?
I mean, it's unbelievable, Chloe, how they take these issues and they try to force it everywhere, even in our own military.
And Pete Hexeth is like...
You have to do certain things in combat.
You've got to carry stuff.
You've got to carry people out.
With burning buildings, this happens in L.A. We've got these firefighters saying that, oh, I don't want to carry a man out.
If he's in a fire, it's his fault.
It's ridiculous.
I have completely wasted this interview talking about this nonsense because we live in a world that is surrounded by insanity, so sometimes you just have to illustrate the absurd.
But, Chloe, tell us again about the film.
film, where can they go to get access and what do you hope that people get from it?
So this film illustrates some of the dangers and the damages of the of gender ideology through our country.
And it features the perspectives of different commissioners, different parents who have had to deal with this in their children, different professionals who had to deal with this in their fields.
One of the most important documentaries on our time on this film, on the subjects.
And I don't know, is it still available on X or is it only on Daily Wire Plus now?
I believe that, if I remember correctly, because it's a Turning Point USA and Daily Wire Plus, I think it was on X for 72 hours.
So I think that has ended.
So now if you want to get it, I know I see it on dailywire.com right now.
So folks, go check that out as well.
By the way, make sure you're following.
Chloe Cole because she has a fantastic poster on this issue and many others.
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