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IG Report Found FBI had 26 Undercover Assets at Jan 6
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The IG report from the Department of Justice has just been released.
And about one hour ago, we learned, as many of us suspected, that there were as many as 26 Confidential human sources, that is to say, undercover assets embedded within the crowd on January 6th.
Now, you'll remember that Chris Ray, Chris Ray In a huge altercation with Congress last year was up there saying that he didn't want to say how many informants there were.
He didn't want to give a number.
I have to be really careful here about talking about whether where we have or have not used confidential human sources.
That's the FBI's term for undercover assets.
So, the undercover assets that the FBI did have in the crowd was as many as 26. Over two dozen of them were there as a matter of fact.
And that's beyond, and doesn't include by the way, the number of potential assets That members of the different organizations and groups that were present on January 6 may have been talking to.
We're not talking about text messages.
We're not talking about their handlers.
I'm not even including any of that.
This is the amount of people that were there present on the crowd.
Of course, when you include the handlers, that's going to be more.
And oh, by the way, so you go to Politico right now and they're saying, oh, this undercuts the conspiracy theories because no FBI agents were in the crowd.
That's not how undercover informants work.
The agent doesn't go themselves.
The agent tells the asset to do it.
That's why you have assets in the first place.
The asset is being run by an agent.
Well, you think they're just doing this for fun?
You think they're just doing this all by themselves?
No, of course not.
They're doing it so that they can build cases against patriots.
And oh, look, that's exactly what they did.
This is why President Trump has said again and again that he wants to pardon the Jan Sixers and that the pardon process will begin on day one.
And hour one of day one on January 20th, the pardon process for the Jan Sixers will begin.
Now the report is out.
Chris Wray, why'd you leave your post so early?
So Chris Wray, think about this.
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So as we go through the IG report, it's entirely and importantly...
Very clear to us.
It's so clear to us what's going on here.
Kash Patel has already begun cleaning up the FBI. President Trump has already begun cleaning up the Washington DC. Why?
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Look, Chris Wray, just go back.
Just go back and look at the pieces of this.
He said that he couldn't be sure how many FBI informants were there on January 6th.
He said, you know, I don't even know if we had any there.
Well, actually you had 26. You had 26 of them, Chris.
26. And now the media, by the way, Politico, CNN, they are trying so hard.
They are trying so hard to get this out there.
Why?
Because they're gonna try to cover this narrative up as much as they possibly can.
So go look up, go to any news search app or whatever you want, and go look up FBI informants, go look up FBI Jan 6, and let's see, let's see.
ABC. Probe finds no evidence feds were involved in inciting January 6th.
NBC. FBI missed basic step when gathering intel in the lead up to Jan 6th.
CNN. No undercover FBI agents were at the January 6th U.S. Capitol riot.
USA Today actually comes out and says, listen to this, listen to this, four FBI sources entered the Capitol on January 6th without authorization.
Hold on, wait, what's this?
USA, I'm telling you the worm has turned in so many ways since the Trump election and this really is the Trump effect.
Four confidential sources entered the U.S. Capitol in January 6, 2021, although none were authorized to do so, according to a Justice Department inspector general.
Only one of those four was actually tasked by FBI field offices to report on any potential terrorism that day.
The other three were in D.C. and went, quote, on their own initiative.
So, even in the biggest CYA report of all CYA reports, they are coming out and saying, yes, the crowd was in fact filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters, as reported by Rep.
Clay Higgins.
And that you had these people going into the Capitol to some extent.
Rich Barris, the People's Pundit, joins us now.
Rich, I know the IG report has come out, but walk me through the implications here of the fact that January 6th and the central contention of this made by folks like the great Darren Beattie, the professor we call him, And something that the media tried to make the entire election about is actually a complete lie, and the IG has just come out and said so.
Well, let me put this in a little bit of context with what I do.
In the first half of the recall, I would call it in the first half of the entire cycle of us polling, what is essentially the rematch, right?
Trump versus Biden.
In the beginning of this entire sham, They had an advantage, they being Democrats, and especially Biden, had an advantage on one issue pretty consistently outside of abortion, which was protect against threats to democracy and stuff like that.
Over time, that evaporated, Jack.
And it's amazing, not that any of this surprises me, but what does surprise me and what I think is noteworthy is that this time we didn't have to wait until after the election for Americans to understand that.
They already knew by a little bit after 2022 that something was really awry here and something was wrong.
And then fast forward into the primary season and we began to ask people these questions again during all the hypothetical matchups.
It didn't matter if it was Biden, Harris, Newsom, whomever.
When we asked people who did they trust, The Democrats lost that advantage.
It was erased and then even reversed.
And now you can see it clear as day in the exit polls.
Trump actually won threats to democracy.
So they lost control of that narrative.
It then became about the weaponization of the Justice Department and also great skepticism over whether or not J6 was overblown.
Or even a setup, Jack.
Even a setup.
I mean, people were wise to this before the election.
And that's something, you know, with what I do, that is something we don't often see.
You find out later.
The Hunter Biden reports, we knew about them.
We didn't know it that bad.
And by the way, Hunter's laptop isn't propaganda, right?
We seem to find these things out.
These revelations come out after the election.
Well, Americans didn't buy it this time.
And they cast their vote and made their decision.
Beforehand and they were ahead of the curve.
They were ahead of the new cycle.
Absolutely incredible.
Absolutely incredible how the IG report comes out confirming everything that President Trump and Trump supporters have said about January 6th.
And this report comes out one month after the election.
There's no possible way that this IG report could have come out before the election so that the American people would have had this information on the day they voted.
No, no, no.
No, we had to have that come out After the election, and of course, there's no additional information here as to the pipe bomber, the identity of the pipe bomber, or the fact that Kamala Harris herself was in the DNC that morning.
She herself never brought this up in any of the—I mean, she didn't give a lot of interviews during the campaign, but she never made a point of contention.
She never talked about the fact that she herself— Rich, this thing stinks to high heaven.
They know they have a problem with this.
And don't tell me for a second that Chris Ray's resignation yesterday is not connected to this report.
And I have to bring this up.
So I read an article from Jonathan Turley on his own, you know, on his substack or whatever it is.
And he basically says, you know, that everyone who perpetrated this fraud or was in on this setup, which is basically entrapment, and then the abuse of their, you know, prosecution, you know, prosecutorial authority, we should just kind of let them go, Jack, right?
And anyone who played this charade with the committee, everybody should just forget and like let bygones be bygones.
I mean, fair enough you don't want to escalate the weaponization of the justice system, but what do we do with people who use something like this to put, I don't want to say innocent, but certainly They were overcharged, you know, people in jail for large periods of their life.
I mean, this is the problem.
And what did President Trump, by the way, in the huge article that just came out this morning, I really encourage everyone to go read this, the Time Magazine interview between President Trump and Time Mag, which accompanied his Man of the Year.
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It clearly was the year of Trump.
There's no one else you could honestly give this to if you wanted to be accurate.
That when he was asked about the Jan Sixers, he said there's going to be a review.
It's going to start on day one.
But what I want to know is how come no BLM or Antifa rioters saw themselves in jail after the events of Portland, after the events of Seattle, where people were murdered.
He said, no one's ever going to jail for these things, and yet you got Jan Sixers that have been languishing for years over walking through an open door.
A door that we found out today may have actually been held open by an undercover FBI asset.
Jack, I mean, that was very obvious to those of us who have been to the Capitol.
I mean, this is not exactly a building a group of protesters could, like, storm and get through easily.
I mean, there was always something awry there.
But, you know, when you ask people who always acted so outraged over J6, why, you know, make those comparisons to BLM and others, they only said, well, this was the Capitol, right?
I guess what it comes down to is your personal property, if you were a victim, if you were a small business owner in Minnesota, Portland, Seattle, any of these cities, and your city was burned and your business was broken into, looted, lit a flame, your property is not as important to these people as this is their town.
This is how they view it.
This is their town.
This is their slice of America, right?
It doesn't belong to you, to me, with the taxpayer or the middle America.
They view it as like sacred to them and that's their own little, you know, haven.
And by, you know, by virtue of that, Trespassing on that property is a graver sin than burning someone's business down.
That is their livelihood, Jack.
I've heard people make those comparisons before and I've heard the most outrageous things come out of people's mouths to argue that you cannot draw that comparison.
That's because they feel that they're privileged and that town is privileged and things that are, you know, crimes or sins committed against that town are graver than the sins that are committed against others.
And it's, you know, it really is a...
A great example of how the privileged believe they're privileged in this country, Jack.
We're coming up on our break, but I just got to throw it out.
How many J6ers didn't know that they were talking with confidential human sources of the FBI? How many people didn't have this at their trial to use in their defense?
We're going to be going through all this.
Rich Barris, Human Events Daily continues.
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Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Washington, D.C., where not far from where I'm sitting right now, it is found that the FBI held 26 federal informants undercover on January 6th.
Multiple numbers, three or four of which, went into the Capitol itself.
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Rich Barris, The more I think about this, this is an obvious Brady violation.
And it's as simple as that.
That none of the J6ers who were put on trial had the opportunity to present this report, which is exculpatory, as part of their defense.
And because none of them had this information about 26 undercover FBI assets, confidential human sources, Put to their defense to be able to present to a jury, that is considered a Brady violation, and that is something that is completely overturnable on appeal.
And President Trump has the ability, with his pardon pen, to commute and pardon every single one of them on the basis of this.
What say you, Rich Barris?
Yeah, and it's also a pattern of behavior with the FBI. This happened to us in the Rittenhouse trial.
I mean, right?
How long did they withhold that footage until they absolutely had no choice, which showed different angles, a longer duration of the footage, which obviously was exculpatory.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't bury the lead, Rich.
The FBI had a secret incident.
Airplane over flying over and we here on this program released the video before the FBI ever did.
Then the FBI finally had to admit it.
It showed everything that you just talked about.
They had the FBI operator testify under seal.
And even that testimony was stricken from the record because they wanted to cover up the fact, it is my contention, that they were likely spying on all the riots that year.
They were sucking up cell phone signals.
They were sucking up everything.
They were running confidential operations within U.S. boundaries, and they never told anyone about it.
Sorry.
Had to throw down on that, Rich.
Yeah, what else would they have been doing?
And the important point you just made is that they didn't acknowledge or release it until they were forced to.
And again, you know, with talking about, you know, the fact they were informants and sources, confidential sources and assets on the ground during January 6th, in and of itself, is something we actually asked about.
When we polled the difference between America and the District of Columbia, we asked people, you know, how likely is it?
That, you know, the FBI had people on the ground, perhaps instigating, you would find a significant percentage in the rest of the country compared to what would be the potential jury pool in DC. So it's like, not just the FBI, the entire process was rigged against these people, Jack, and that research Several lawyers wanted to use for their clients who were J6 defendants and the judge would not let them.
We were contacted by several people.
Hey, can we use this?
Is this something we can use with your permission or maybe even do you want to do some more research to dig deeper?
We'd retain you.
It didn't matter.
The judge wasn't hearing it.
They weren't open to the idea.
That the D.C. jury pool was a lot less skeptical about the potential role the FBI played, which again, now we know is the truth.
When we would ask people in D.C., you're talking about single digits, Jack, who would say that this wasn't an insurrection, who would entertain the concept or the idea that maybe the FBI played some role here in instigation.
Almost unanimous compared to even at the worst of times where it was the most favorable narrative for Democrats, the country was still roughly split, give or take 55-45, and then that got worse for them over time.
They lost control of that narrative.
But the fact that that research existed and people were not allowed to use it in their own defense is a travesty in and of itself.
Obviously, they were not going to have A credible jury pool.
And this is something myself, people like Robert Barnes, we've been arguing this for years.
That entire jurisdiction, Jack, needs to be reformed and or abolished.
Or just abolished altogether.
Because when you're talking about politically charged cases, they are absolutely incapable of giving people a fair trial or on the other side of the spectrum than that.
That should not be going on in this country.
Period.
Now that said, Rich, that actually raises a good question because I've heard this said before.
Julie Kelly's brought it up.
What would you do then?
Would you take those cases?
Would you move that to a jurisdiction like Southern Maryland, Eastern Virginia?
What would you do with those cases if you got rid of the D.C. Circuit?
Yeah, I mean, they would have to change the venue and move them to another venue, or you could just come up with another system altogether and there have been some proposals that are, you know, out of the box, which is a special jurisdiction dealing with, you know, not just capital but politically charged related crimes.
Where it would be more representative of the nation as a whole.
We're the most technologically advanced country in the world at this point, Jack.
You know, it's like we can't verify a ballot through signature, but we can open our iPhone and we can't come up with an out-of-the-box solution dealing with something like this where we don't just have one geographic area represent a potential jury pool.
We know for a fact that it's a hive mind in DC. There's no other way to put it.
It's a hive mind.
And if you are a defendant in anything related to a political crime, you're in deep trouble.
You are.
But the problem is, the reason why I don't actually favor change of jurisdiction, change of venues in immediate, or not immediate, but within similar jurisdictions and locations, because look at Northern Virginia now.
It's not much better.
It's just not.
We actually have modern cases where we have defendants within Trump world that did not get a great shot at justice either there.
So I'm more for the out-of-the-box ideas, Jack.
I really am.
We can do it.
I love the out of the box ideas.
And I think that obviously there's, you know, there's definitely ways you're gonna have to, you know, look at this.
But, you know, you take a case, like, look at what they're doing to Steve Bannon right now in the city of New York, where they're going after him using a straw donor, a guy who I think donated like 14 bucks to the We Build the Wall, and suddenly they're gonna go after him and try to put him in jail.
Over that guy's complaint versus, by the way, and I'll just say this about Steve's case in We Build the Wall, which is a complete farce, obviously political.
And I've also never once in my entire five, six years, at least six years, six and a half years since this thing started, had anyone come up to me and say that they wanted their money back.
The only thing that I've ever heard people say is that they want more of the wall built and they want more illegal aliens deported.
I've never heard it happen.
The thing is obviously political and we need to do something.
I love the idea of a systematized legal system for these potential trials because this is really the question.
And President Trump was asked again and again regarding this.
And Pam Bondi, is she gonna pursue charges?
They keep talking about it with Kash Patel, et cetera, et cetera.
So, Rich, no, I think it's a fantastic idea.
Before I let you go, there is, since we do have the People's Pundit on, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you regarding President Trump's nominees and his judicial nominees, as well as Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard on the national security front, Kristi Noem as well, to some extent.
This idea of a threat of primary for the in-cycle senators, Cornyn, Joni Ernst, a few others that are out there, is that really something?
I mean, people keep saying that that's really what's putting the pressure on them.
What do you see on that front from a polling perspective?
Look, there's no doubt that this is the most viable way to get senators to listen to you as the base.
Sadly, and I don't go on programs to try to insult people, but the fact of the matter is, The Republican Senate is going to be one of Trump's biggest obstacles, if not the biggest, because there are two things that senators listen to.
They're not deliberative.
I'm sick of hearing things like the most deliberative body in the world.
They listen to rent seekers, which are special interest groups, and they listen to public pressure.
And one has to be greater than the other, and that is how they make the decision.
If Joni Ernst believes that she will get primary by the Attorney General of Iowa, who is much more MAGA and would destroy her in a primary, she will change her mind.
If John Cornyn believes that somebody else is going to rise...
This man, by the way, was booed off the stage in his own state party's event.
If he believes that there's a viable challenger, he will change his mind.
If Tom Tillis believes, I don't know, let's say, Laurie Trump, is going to move back to North Carolina, run and primary him and destroy him because she would.
She would stomp him into the ground.
He will change his mind.
And it's sad that this has to be done this way because Republicans should be celebrating the very deep and very Well, here's what it is though, Rich.
Did anybody object to Lloyd Austin not believing in civilian defense?
Come on, Jack!
That's like the most terrifying thing you could ever hear.
What it is, Rich, is ultimately this has become the great revelation because now we're seeing who actually is representing their constituents And who's there just for money and power?
Rich Barris, got to run.
Where can people go to get, and we're going to talk about Pete Hegseth coming up here very soon with someone who actually knows him.
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Where is he?
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All right, Jack Posobiec back live here, Human Events Daily.
Before we move to topics, I just want to say, Why didn't the Jan 6 Committee tell us about the 26 undercover FBI assets present on the ground on January 6th?
What could it be about the Jan 6 Committee who sat there for two years conducting interviews and conducting work that they just decided to not tell us that?
Maybe we can check their documents and text messages.
Oh wait, they deleted all the evidence.
Very interesting.
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One nominee who started off, you know, there were some concerns, there was some consternation, but now has pushed through them and was able to rally through, not just because of The MAGA movement, although the MAGA movement stood strong, I gotta say, the Posse stood strong.
But because, and this was so incredible to see, his friends and colleagues rallied around him.
And that man is a man by the name of Pete Hegseth.
Pete Hegseth has been here on Human Events daily.
He graciously conducted an entire episode with us, did the full hour sit-down.
It was amazing.
We went through all of his ideas.
We didn't even know at the time that he would be nominated or potentially nominated for Secretary of Defense, but he did so right here.
He was the correspondent that Fox sent to the Deplore Ball all the way back in 2016, 2017. And now his former colleague, Mark Lucas, who is now with the Article III Project, joins us to talk about this nomination.
Mark, how are you?
Good to see you.
Thanks for having me on.
So tell us your background with Pete Hegseth.
How do you know Pete?
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I've known Pete Hegseth for over a decade.
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And Pete was also my predecessor at Concerned Veterans for America.
And there's a New Yorker article that came out that was sourced anonymously that accused Pete of all these bad actions.
And you came away reading the article thinking that Concerned Veterans for America was a train wreck.
I can tell you it was the complete opposite.
I inherited a world-class organization.
I kept his leadership team.
That was incredible.
I used his strategy to help me as the Executive Director of Concerned Veterans for America to brief President Trump in the Roosevelt Room.
And it was Pete's strategy going for years back that said that we needed to bring accountability to the VA. We also needed to bring choice in veteran healthcare.
And when I told President Trump that Pete was a friend of my predecessor, his eyes lit up.
And he said, you know Pete?
I love Pete.
He's my friend and I want to hire him, but my friends say that we need to keep him at Fox.
That helped me out immensely.
As we move forward early on in the Trump administration in 2017, we helped pass two of the most historic reforms in the history of the VA. The VA Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of 2017, and then the Mission Act.
Because of Pete Hegseth, Concerned Veterans for America was one of the most impactful veterans organizations in modern-day history.
And so putting all that together, and why do you suppose it is that initially, and I will say, I think that the tide has turned on this.
There were people like Joni Ernst who were kind of holding this up and saying that she wasn't sure if she would support.
That was about a week ago.
Now she's making very much more positive statements, more supportive statements.
We're seeing a lot more senators come out.
What do you think it was early on that was really driving This consternation, because I'm going to say something right now.
You know, the people of Washington, D.C., okay, they love their drink.
And if you want to tell me that Pete Hegseth is a guy that drinks too much, no, no, no, no, no, no.
First of all, not only is it not true, but if you want to go down the list of people that are drunk, of senators who are drunk while sitting and voting or sitting in their offices, then I'm more than happy to provide people receipts.
You're absolutely correct.
And the founder of Article 3 Project, my good friend from college, Mike Davis, had mentioned that if this is the new standard, if drinking and womanizing is no longer allowed for public servants, and there's a lot of people in the United States Senate who might be out of a job, We saw early on...
Wait, wait, Mark.
I have an idea.
I have an idea.
Let's go.
Let's go ask Nancy Pelosi.
Let's go ask Nancy Pelosi about drinking on the job.
Let's go have a little chat with her.
Maybe her daughter's got some documentary footage that we can check out.
No, I mean, it's ridiculous.
The whole thing's ridiculous.
Please go on.
And we saw early on last month that the media started a sophisticated smear campaign against PHAG Seth.
And what we saw at the Article III project was an opportunity to set the record straight, not just with my personal relationship with Pete and that story, but also to remind people of Brett Kavanaugh.
Mike Davis was the Chief Counsel of Nominations in the United States Senate during the Kavanaugh confirmation.
And during that time, there were plenty of anonymous people coming out, but then there was false testimony occurring in the Senate.
And Mike Davis was alone and unafraid, and he set out a bat signal to the entire country with a tweet that said that he was unfazed and determined.
Republicans were running for the hills during Brett Kavanaugh, but Mike Davis was able to help getting confirmed.
So with the Article 3 project, we reminded people of that story and said, please contact your United States senators and let them know that President Trump has a historic mandate.
We support his nominations.
And so in less than two weeks, the Article III project, thanks to you, Jack, and the War Room Posse, were able to lob in over 50,000 messages in the Senate offices.
This has been the most historic start of the month for A3P in our history.
We have had more grassroots activists engage with their lawmakers than at any point at A3P. Well, and that's actually fantastic.
I mean, when you look at what President Trump has been able to do, when you look at the way that his nominations have been able to come through and the public that's seen through this engagement, the social media sentiment, the law of diminishing returns, you know, they call it the boy who cried wolf.
You know, part of this, by the way, honestly, it kind of goes back to the Me Too movement, which, to be fair, and to be frank, has done a disservice to women.
Because, you know, when you talk about Joni Ernst, and I remember when that story first came out, and I remember that she was always talking with men back when I served as Navy officer.
And I remember her talking about this idea of setting up an independent investigator similar to the IG for these sexual assault cases and moving them out of the chain of command.
I said, that's a righteous issue.
That's actually something that we probably should be talking about.
But the way that it's been totally weaponized just really distracts and detracts from that initial argument.
And I'm from Iowa, a lifelong Iowan.
Joni Ernst represents me.
I've known her.
For over 10 years, we served together in the Iowa Army National Guard.
And a story a lot of people know in Iowa that maybe the national audience hasn't heard is that Joni herself is a survivor of sexual assault.
So she was going to do her due diligence, just like she did with Brett Kavanaugh.
Her meetings with Pete Hegseth were very productive.
And one of the key things that Joni wants to focus on is what we call in the Army SHARP, sexual harassment and assault response prevention.
And Pete and her are 100% aligned on that issue.
We want to ensure that we protect our service members.
And so the meeting that Pete had with Joni on Monday was really productive.
She's moved to a yes.
But to kind of pan out and look at what the grassroots can do, it's not just President Trump that has this mandate.
Our grassroots volunteers all across the country, they have a mandate as well.
And our volunteers don't just care about politics and elections.
Mark, I completely agree with you.
Give me one second, because we've got a quick break right here, but I want to bring back, and I do want to talk about the mandate of grassroots.
Article 3 Project, Pete Hegseth.
We're getting into all of it.
Human Events Daily continues.
Jack is a great guy.
He's written a fantastic book.
Everybody's talking about it.
Go get it.
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
Amen.
All right, Jack Posobiec back live.
Here we are, Human Events Daily.
We're on with Mark Lucas of the Article 3 Project, who not only served with, but also worked with Pete Hegseth and the Concerned Veterans Group.
And he's now with us just breaking down the fact that Pete Hegseth is the kind of guy who, and let's be frank, I personally love the idea of a Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense because if you take someone who's been from the system, then they're not going to go in and actually shake things up.
They're not going to want to fire anyone.
They're not going to want to shut down any offices.
They're going to sit there and they just act as managers.
They want to keep the paychecks rolling and they want to make sure that they can move on so they can get whatever Position that they can get at a contractor afterwards, Boeing, Lockheed, whatever.
Whereas Pete doesn't need any of that.
And that's why he's actually the perfect pick to put in there.
Absolutely.
And we were both infantry officers.
We served as platoon leaders, him in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I was an infantry rifle platoon leader along the Afghan-Pakistani border in 2010 and 2011. It was the deadliest period of the war.
So Pete and I, we understand that we want to put the warfighter first.
Pete is a door kicker, he's a pipe hitter, whatever term you want to use for a junior infantry officer that served his country honorably.
Pete Hegseth lives up to that.
And these general officers and these people within the military industrial complex, they know they can't control him.
There's nothing that they can take away from him.
All Pete Hegseth wants to do is return our military back to the basics.
We trained a lot of soldiers as infantry leaders, and I would always focus my men on the big four.
Shoot, move, communicate, and stop bleeding.
Guess what didn't make the list?
DEI, transgender surgeries, and understanding white rage.
Pete Hegseth is going to return our military back to this America First focus?
Which, number one, we've got to start inside the Pentagon.
We have to lead by example.
The Department of Defense have failed, I think, seven or eight audits in a row.
We need to clean up our own house.
We need to focus on the United States of America.
Because Pete and I served in combat, we know the cost of war.
We know how deadly it is and the long-term impacts it has on not just service members, but their families and their communities.
We will ensure that our foreign policy is focused.
And that we're not engaged in these forever wars.
I could not agree more on a variety of issues.
And by the way, the Wall Street Journal had that fantastic headline the other day that said, President Trump keeps appointing angry veterans to his cabinet.
And obviously they had J.D. Vance and Tulsi and Pete were there.
I said, I love that.
I love the framing of it.
Angry veterans who were lied to about the global war on terror.
It's so perfect.
It's just so perfect.
I suppose I'm one myself now that I think about it.
You know, I was at Guantanamo, though, not Afghanistan, so I don't really think of it that way.
But before I let you go, I wanted to also point out, and I'm told that you at the Article III Project also have a project you're working on in addition to just your personal background with Pete, but also regarding election integrity, because election integrity is something That we cannot let get away from us in the midst of everything else that's going on.
We have a real shot to actually change things up.
What is the Article 3 project doing?
Yeah, so the Article 3 project was focused on protecting President Trump from lawfare, but also fighting against election interference.
So moving into 2025, We have not quite fixed elections that we need to.
So we're looking towards 2026. We've partnered with good friends like Cleta Mitchell, working on an election integrity, Bill of Rights, so we can look at state capitals all across the country, tighten up election law where they need to be, but also at the federal level with non-citizens voting.
I saw a systemic effort in these battleground states, especially your home state of Pennsylvania, Jack, With Governor Josh Shapiro and where we need to not allow...
We love little Joshy.
We love little Joshy around here.
So wonderful.
And Wisconsin and Georgia and Arizona and Nevada.
These...
States, Secretary of State, we're working together to try to make it easier for non-citizens to vote.
So we're not taking our eyes off the ball.
Our majority in the House of Representatives is very tight.
We have a quick two years to help enact as much good policy as possible under President Trump, and we must protect our elections so we can maintain these majorities and advance the America First agenda in 2026 and beyond.
So what do you say to folks, and I've heard this, this actually came up when I was at Mar-a-Lago recently, and I can't say who I was talking about with, but to folks who say, well, the federal government shouldn't get involved, Republicans shouldn't do that, we should just allow it to stay with the states.
What do you say in response to that?
Well, the non-citizens voting is a very federal issue.
I think it's common sense to say we believe that only American citizens should vote in American elections.
But then also have power in the states at the local level on certain election laws.
And you also put yourself at risk, right?
If the federal government has bad election law, it will impact all 50 states.
So I think we have to have balance.
But we can agree that we need to have voter ID. We need to have tighter controls on voter registration, on absentee ballots.
I'll tell you, Jack, I really enjoyed watching you on ThoughtCrime along with The Turning Point USA guys, the work that you guys did chasing ballots was so critical.
What we've proven in 2024 is that we can leverage early voting to our advantage, but we have to have better laws because the Democrats will look for any opportunity to exploit laws like Iwakawa, which a lot of people think that overseas ballots are all military.
Well, in fact, they're not.
Actually, only 60 to 70% of those are military service members.
A large number of those votes are coming in overseas are actually not military.
So we need to tighten that up and give...
Yeah, I've actually, just in my own life, I've been both.
And thank you, by the way.
Today is Thought Crime Thursday.
We'll be taping that later this evening with Charlie and the gang.
Yeah, no, I've been overseas in uniform and voted, and I've also been overseas as just an expat civilian and voted as well.
So that's something that people really do need to take a look at.
Mark Lucas, where can people go to follow you and the Article 3 Project?
Go to article3project.org.
You can take action there.
You can contact your U.S. senators to tell them to support Kash Patel.
And Pete Hegseth during their nominations.
And you can follow me at LucasIowa on XGetterInTruth.
