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| This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare. | |
| A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. | |
| This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec. | |
| Christ is king! | |
| Jack, since you do cover American politics, are there any politicians who are seeing what's going on right now in terms that big? | |
| There is one guy, but I wouldn't call him a politician. | |
| His name's Donald Trump. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I will say, though, no, I don't know that there's anyone who looks at it at that level, because most politicians, they have their timelines of, when do I get re-elected? | |
| I gotta raise more money. | |
| I'm gonna go get re-elected again. | |
| Constantly come to this front. | |
| Hey, I'm sure you could invite I get invited all the time. | |
| Hey, Tucker, come to my fundraiser. | |
| Hey, come and help me raise some money. | |
| I gotta raise money. | |
| I'm running. | |
| And they're not thinking about what's happening. | |
| And then I see Donald Trump get up there with his children, with his grandchildren, and he brings up to his rallies. | |
| After he's taken shots at his rallies, still brings his grandchildren up there, saying, you want me? | |
| I'm right here. | |
| Come take it. | |
| Come after me. | |
| I'm not moving. | |
| Folks, it's got to be us. | |
| It's got to be the people in this room 10x-ing your vote, 10x-ing your ballots, getting active. | |
| Look at me. | |
| Look what I did. | |
| I'm just a kid from Norristown, but I said, fine, if I'm going to go back home, I'm going to bring Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones with me. | |
| You know, people say, you know, Alex, oh, that's, you know, that's crazy. | |
| That could never be real. | |
| We could never live in a country like that. | |
| You know, that would never happen. | |
| And then all of a sudden, Oprah Winfrey is doing these infomercials with Kamala Harris. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| Right after the FBI seized all of the P. Diddy tapes that Oprah is on from the parties that he was holding. | |
| And so I used to think that, you know, we got to protect Trump. | |
| We got to keep him safe. | |
| We got to keep him safe. | |
| Now I realize there's somebody else we got to keep safe. | |
| We've got to keep Diddy safe, because that's the next guy they're going to go for. | |
| This guy could tell, if you want to know how your government actually works, that's the guy we got to talk to. | |
| Tucker, I don't know, maybe you have an in. | |
| Could you get Diddy on the tour, maybe? | |
| No, I'm serious, I'm serious. | |
| This is how they run the government, though. | |
| He's definitely another Epstein operator. | |
| There's an Epstein operation, and there's a Diddy. | |
| He's the black Epstein, okay? | |
| He's just the black Epstein. | |
| He just is, alright? | |
| Now the same groups behind Epstein are behind Diddy, and they just rolled him off. | |
| People would say, how is it that so many of our world leaders have gone to an island such as that? | |
| Right? | |
| And they say, how could this have happened? | |
| How could it be such an open secret? | |
| And then when it happens, people come out, and Bill Gates again, by the way, and suddenly people say, oh, we all knew, we all knew there was stuff about Jeff. | |
| What do you mean you all knew about this? | |
| What do you mean you knew about this kind of stuff? | |
| And you realize we're looking at it backwards. | |
| In order to become a world leader, you have to go to the island. | |
| In order to become a celebrity, you have to go to the Diddy party. | |
| This is the way their system works. | |
| It's a right of initiation. | |
| And with that, Alex Jones, Jack Posobiec, I'm proud to be friends with both of you. | |
| Thank you, Tucker! | |
| Got a little gift for you guys. | |
| A little gift. | |
| One for Tucker. | |
| Tucker! | |
| One for Alex. | |
| Tucker! | |
| Tucker! | |
| That's for you, brother. | |
| I love Tucker and I love Jack. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you, Pennsylvania. | |
| Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special edition of Human Events Daily. | |
| Now, as you know, I was on stage with Tucker Carlson and just very grateful to him for having me on his tour. | |
| We did a show right in Reading, Pennsylvania, about 30 minutes from where I grew up. | |
| It was very much a hometown show for me. | |
| So what we've done As well as with special guest Alex Jones, is we've put together some of the highlights of that show for you here. | |
| And now we will also be able to exclusively show you the behind the scenes interview that I conducted with Tucker that day for this show. | |
| Because folks, we are in a spiritual war. | |
| Tucker understands that we are in a spiritual war, and I wanted to get into the very questions with Tucker about all of that. | |
| So first, let me show you myself and Alex Jones on stage with Tucker Carlson. | |
| So, Jack Posobiec is actually from this area. | |
| He's so from this area. | |
| I just met his entire family. | |
| It numbered in the hundreds. | |
| All awesome people, and he and I have talked about this because I actually am interested in Pennsylvania specifically. | |
| One of the oldest states, it was our capital, like it's an amazing place with an amazing history. | |
| And we've talked a lot about what's happened to it. | |
| And we've also talked a lot about Kamala Harris's latest surrogate, Zelensky. | |
| And so I thought it'd be fun and interesting to bring him out. | |
| Jack Posobiec, a man I respect and like personally. | |
| Here he is. | |
| Can everyone join me in giving Tucker Carlson a warm Pennsylvania welcome tonight? | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you for doing this. | |
| You and I have talked in private a lot about what's happened to the state, but I just have to ask you since I'm so spun up and I'll shut up and Let you describe your views, which are more interesting than mine. | |
| But Zelensky, last I checked, was like a foreign leader from a foreign country. | |
| And he flies over to the United States on U.S. | |
| military aircraft at your expense. | |
| That could be going to the, you know, the guy dying right outside this building of a fentanyl OD. | |
| And he shows up in Pennsylvania, the key swing state in the closest presidential election in my lifetime, to stump for Kamala Harris and Democrats in this state. | |
| Am I misreading what's happening here? - Don't get away! - Tucker, the only thing that I would add, the only thing that I would add, is that none of this is happening by chance. is that none of this is happening by chance. | |
| We didn't lose our homes, we didn't lose our towns, we didn't lose our economy, we didn't lose our cities like the great city of Philadelphia, and it was a great city, and it will be a great city again. | |
| We didn't lose it by chance, it was taken from us. | |
| It certainly was. | |
| In the name of compassion, it was. | |
| But I'm just sort of, I mean, you're a military officer, intel guy, you have a big foreign policy background, you've been around the world. | |
| Is it weird, I'm just stuck on this, and I'll stop after this, but is it weird to have a foreign leader whose salary we're paying, whose country we're supporting, we're paying the retirement benefits of Ukrainian civil servants, when our people are really hurting, Is it weird to have that? | |
| Is he allowed to stump for Kamala Harris? | |
| What about all the freaking Republicans who voted to fund this ghoul? | |
| What are they saying about this? | |
| So here's how it works, right? | |
| So why does Redding look the way that it does? | |
| Why does Montgomery County, and by the way, if anyone's here from Norristown, Pennsylvania, I'm from Norristown, Pennsylvania, born and raised 1400 block of Norristown, Pennsylvania, Powell Street. | |
| Every single school that I've gone to before college has been shut down. | |
| The hospital that I was born in has been demolished. | |
| My high school is currently in the process of being demolished. | |
| And you want to know where all that money went? | |
| You want to know where all that economic opportunity went? | |
| Well, it's gone to places like Shanghai, and then now it's gone to places like Iraq, and then it went to places like Afghanistan, and now it's being sent to Ukraine to kill people, to kill Christians in a war that has nothing to do with us, that has nothing to do with the people in this room, and every single person in this room, by the way, is paying the cost. | |
| You're paying the cost of it in, number one, in terms of money, and then number two, if this thing continues and goes even further the way they want it to, you'll pay the cost in blood. | |
| And I'll tell you this, When you look at little Josh Shapiro, by the way, it's amazing how Josh Shapiro had to wear the big lips to make sure that he was a little taller than Zelinsky, because, no, no, really, it's true, because they're actually the same height. | |
| If you put Zelinsky on Josh Shapiro's shoulders, they'd still both be looking up at Baron. | |
| That's quite an image, I gotta be honest. | |
| The memesters will be hard at work. | |
| But what's really going on, Tucker, is go look at not just Zelinsky in that video, go look at Josh Shapiro. | |
| I've never seen Josh Shapiro and I've known the guy for 18 years. | |
| I've never seen him more excited or giddy or gleeful as he was in that picture, sending the money and the war and the bombs and the violence abroad. | |
| And when you look at a guy like that, when you look at a guy who presided over turning my great hometown of Norristown into a killing zone, who presides currently over Philadelphia, which is a killing zone, and is now going off and participating in the killing that's going on in Ukraine, You talked about religion, Tucker, and I just look at it and I say, this guy does not serve God. | |
| He serves death. | |
| Well, I mean, kind of by definition, I mean, without even getting the whole Ukraine thing, I'll just bottom line it and tell you, if you don't already know, you've been lied to. | |
| There was never a chance that Ukraine was going to beat Russia, whatever you think of it. | |
| I don't even have very strong feelings about it because I'm not from there. | |
| I'm from the United States, but Russia's a hundred million more people. | |
| I mean, it was always going to end as it has in the deaths of an entire generation of Ukrainians. | |
| It's the saddest thing I've ever seen. | |
| Zelensky has changed the law. | |
| So now foreign companies, Kamala Harris donors can buy their farmland. | |
| They're going to, there's going to be no Ukraine thanks to these monsters. | |
| And it makes me sad as hell, but it's not so different from what they've done to where you grew up. | |
| So if you could just explain the town you grew up in, what it was like and what it's like now. | |
| So the town I grew up in, Norristown, and it's probably like a lot of the towns here. | |
| By the way, I think I'm related to like 50% of the people in the room tonight. | |
| At least. | |
| But my whole family is here. | |
| My mom, my dad, my wonderful wife Tanya, my kids, they're all back here. | |
| Hi guys, my cousins, they're all right around here. | |
| The whole Pesobics are here. | |
| By the way, Kamala Harris was talking this morning about, oh, she was like, excuse me, Scamala Harris was talking about the, because she is a complete scam, the biggest scam that's ever perpetuated on the American people, and she's now said that she's got the endorsement of the Polish Catholics and the Polish Americans of Pennsylvania. | |
| Well, I don't know if we have any Poles in this room, but I'm not going to be voting for Kamala Harris, and none of my family is either. | |
| Is anyone in this room gonna vote for Kamala Harris? | |
| She really said the... I'm no expert. | |
| She said that this morning. | |
| She said the Polish Catholics are the least likely ever to vote for me, is that what she said? | |
| No, she said all the Polish Americans, and we pretty much only come in one flavor, Tucker, so it's synonymous with Catholic. | |
| She said they're all gonna be voting for me, and that's 800,000. | |
| And this was up on her Twitter, and up on her campaign, and I'm like... | |
| And I said, no, I don't think she has a chance of winning Polish Americans, but she's going to speak for us. | |
| So the town I grew up in was incredible. | |
| And, you know, whatever, you know, people want to think about me or want to say about me, I would trade everything that I have, not my family, but all like the material things that I have, if I could just have my town back. | |
| If I could just have my town back. | |
| Because to me, success To me, to be successful meant moving to a nicer part of my town. | |
| Or, like, a bigger house at the other end of the street. | |
| Like, you never... I didn't have any dreams of, like, being up on stage with Tucker Carlson or any of this stuff, you know? | |
| And it was the kind of town where, you know, my family comes from Poland, as I mentioned, and we've been in Norristown for a hundred plus years, and every single member of my family was baptized at the same church until my son, Jack-Jack, who's sitting out there. | |
| Jack-Jack, not too many video games. | |
| And we had the same church. | |
| We pretty much lived in the same block. | |
| I grew up in the same house that my father grew up in when he was a little boy, because that's what you did. | |
| And the children that I played with were the kids of the children that my father played with, and his father before. | |
| And your whole world was a couple of blocks. | |
| And everybody knew everybody, and it was good. | |
| It wasn't the nicest place in the world. | |
| It wasn't the most fantastic. | |
| Nobody was ever writing, you know, songs about it or anything. | |
| But it was a good place where honest, hard-working people could make a living, could go home and make enough for their families, and then go home and maybe catch an Eagles game after work. | |
| I mean, I think you've described what most people want, actually. | |
| Most people don't dream of having helicopters. | |
| They dream of living where they grew up, with the people they went to high school with, walking distance from their grandparents' graves. | |
| That's not too much to ask, is it? | |
| My grandmom lived at the other end of the street, so we could go over to her house to go swimming. | |
| The school was within walking distance. | |
| It was all right there. | |
| And the library was in walking distance, and I used to go down to the library and read a lot. | |
| And my mom would let me go by myself when I got a little bit older, but then she stopped letting me go to the library by myself when the homeless people that kept being let in were stabbing each other in there. | |
| And this Montgomery County Public Library, go look it up, that this became a place for transients and vagrants. | |
| And then all of a sudden during the 1990s, Section 8 started coming in, and all the other federal programs started coming in, and then, oh yes, Norristown got turned into a sanctuary city. | |
| So after that, we got all the illegals that flooded over, destroyed the healthcare system, because they go where? | |
| They go to the emergency room for their healthcare. | |
| So I actually wrote a letter to the editor in the paper saying, We shouldn't do this because it's going in like, you know, end of the 90s. | |
| I don't even know how old I was. | |
| And I said, we shouldn't do this because this is going to overload and overwhelm our health care system. | |
| And as I just mentioned, the hospital that I was born in is now a vacant lot next to a Planned Parenthood clinic. | |
| And look, that's whatever. | |
| That's my story. | |
| But that's not a unique story, Tucker. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| And I'm sure most of the people in this room Either live through something like this or know people who live something like this. | |
| And what I've come to learn, what I have come to learn, that it's by politicians like Josh Shapiro and politicians like Joe Biden from Scranton and all the others who have done this to us, Tucker. | |
| This was done by design. | |
| People were taken for granted. | |
| Their lives were destroyed. | |
| Their communities were destroyed. | |
| And I do not have any explanation for it other than they serve death and they hate the people they're supposed to represent. | |
| Okay. | |
| You know what strikes me about what you're saying? | |
| And it is such a familiar story, particularly in this state. | |
| I have noticed all over the state, you know, east to west is how fast it happened. | |
| You're not 70 years old. | |
| So you're saying you lived multiple generations of your family in the same town, all went to the same church. | |
| And then in like 10 years, it's all gone. | |
| It was so fast, and as a kid, you know, it was kind of shocking. | |
| And, you know, look, my parents, when they moved us out, they wanted to keep us safe. | |
| You know, it starts with your bike getting stolen, and then your next bike gets stolen, and then your third bike gets stolen. | |
| And, you know, this was a town where, you know, it's idyllic, you know, it's kind of the cliche, but you could Leave your door unlocked, you know? | |
| And your babysitters were like the girl who lived next door that was a little bit older. | |
| And then when you went out to play, mom never said, you know, oh, I'm worried about you, because you knew your neighbors. | |
| And so your neighbors would say, oh, OK, yeah, yeah, he's here. | |
| And make sure you go home, because it's going to be nighttime. | |
| And then you go out. | |
| And that's how it was. | |
| And suddenly, within that lifetime, and I know my two boys are sitting right there, that Jack-Jack and AJ, I've never even taken them down the street where I grew up. | |
| Why? | |
| Because I'm worried they would be shot. | |
| Because that's how bad the gang violence has gotten there in the time since. | |
| The open murders that take place there all the time, the illegals that are selling drugs all over the place. | |
| Like a couple of Jamaicans that were behind us, you know, that were drug dealers and they would keep Rottweilers out to keep people away and they kept getting arrested. | |
| But then every time they got arrested, they would, something strange would happen, Tucker, because they would come back after they got arrested. | |
| And so when you're little, you think, oh, you know, the cops are the good guys and they can take away the bad guys. | |
| And so you wonder, wait a minute, why don't the police just come and get rid of all these bad guys? | |
| And wait a minute, I think there's some bad guys over there and some bad guys over here. | |
| And suddenly you realize that all of the, um, Standards of living and the quality of life and these basic suppositions that you have about the way the social contract is supposed to work Actually don't seem to work sometimes and it turns out the leaders aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing and suddenly the towns are being completely Destroyed and you don't understand and as a kid you don't understand even now. | |
| It's all kind of asking questions Why did that happen? | |
| But I did realize one thing Tucker I did realize one thing, and throughout all of whatever I've done, you know, and by the way, people, you know, I'm, you know, Norristown, I gotta give a shout out to Corpolis while I'm up here. | |
| Corpolis tomato pie. | |
| We'll get Tucker some Corpolis, alright? | |
| Trust me on this, Tucker, trust me. | |
| It's alright, it's Italian, you'll like it. | |
| That, uh, best tomato pie in the state. | |
| That, uh, pride of Philly, by the way. | |
| It will not stop until it is stopped. | |
| It will not stop until people get together and they vote and they take action and they do the ballots and the activity and the work because every single time something like this is going on around the world, whether it be Russia and the Bolsheviks, whether it be China, whether it be Spain, whether it be France and the French Revolution, all of the insanity continues on until the people of that country The people of the state rise up and say, no. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| No more. | |
| You've gone too far. | |
| We will not cross this line anymore. | |
| And we are going to stop you. | |
| And we're going to find a leader. | |
| And even if you try to kill that leader, And even if you try, which, by the way, right in the state, Butler, PA, you know, where they tried to take out Donald Trump on stage, funny how it is that Josh Shapiro doesn't seem interested in that investigation, doesn't seem interested in finding out who fired that bullet or why, and didn't provide the Pennsylvania State Police that he should have that day, we're writing an entire book about this, that... Bulletproof. | |
| He's got it. | |
| That you realize that at some point, at some point, Tucker, Is it indifference? | |
| Is it incompetence? | |
| Or is it complicity? | |
| Well, I mean, we don't need to guess, right? | |
| I mean, we always would say in the news business, you can't know people's motive. | |
| I always would say that. | |
| And you try to be humble about what you know and what you don't know. | |
| But after a while, you realize you do. | |
| Because the goal is the result, actually. | |
| The goal is the result. | |
| The point of the system is what it does. | |
| The point of the system is what it does. | |
| And that is true over time. | |
| So if they come in and make changes and your neighborhood goes from a cohesive, beautiful, safe place to a slum in 10 years, they wanted to do that. | |
| And if they do that to places all over your state, they did that on purpose. | |
| Like, I don't think we need to guess, do we? | |
| And if you don't investigate attempted murder of a presidential candidate, you're in favor of the murder of a presidential candidate. | |
| Well, I'll tell you something else, and here's the good news. | |
| Here's the good news on that front. | |
| So, they tried to take out Trump once, and we said we're gonna write an entire book about it in, like, a month, which we did. | |
| We wrote a snapbook about it, called Bulletproof. | |
| And then they tried to take him out again. | |
| A second time, even before we finished that. | |
| So we put that part in the second book as well, and that guy, funny enough, Tucker, wouldn't you believe, had just come from overseas. | |
| Do you know where the second shooter just came from, Tucker? | |
| Ukraine. | |
| He came from Ukraine where he was a foreign fighter over there who had received training and then used that training to come here to this country to try to kill the one person who's trying to stop all of the things that we just talked about from happening. | |
| And he said, in order to do so, it is morally correct. | |
| He said it's morally correct. | |
| And then the DOJ this morning He puts out a letter from this psychopath from Ukraine that says, even if I can't get the job done myself, There's a bounty on Trump's head for $150,000. | |
| And the DOJ, of course, put this out on purpose. | |
| They could have put that under seal. | |
| They could have redacted it. | |
| How many things has the government redacted, Tucker? | |
| They could have redacted that. | |
| They didn't. | |
| Well, the Nashville shooting we just got two years later. | |
| The Nashville shooting, which they fought tooth and nail to give us the manifesto of, which was like, oh, I hate Christians and I hate white people, so I'm going to kill Christian white people. | |
| It's like, oh, wow, what a surprise. | |
| I was so shocked. | |
| So we find out that, and then | |
| On this one, look, Tucker, I don't trust Josh Shapiro, I definitely don't trust Merrick Garland, so what we've decided to do with this, it started as a book, we're launching our own investigation into what went on, and we've hired a private investigative firm, and some of whom are actually in the crowd today, just FYI, and we are gonna be expanding that investigation from Bethel Park to Butler, down to West Palm Beach, all the way out to Hawaii. | |
| Tucker, we're gonna go to Ukraine if we have to. | |
| We are going to get to the bottom of what happened. | |
| We're calling it the Bulletproof Project, because I just don't trust any of these people. | |
| I don't trust any of these people. | |
| Be careful in Ukraine. | |
| I may not go personally again over there, but the one thing that we have learned, Tucker, is this bounty, the $150,000, and I promised people that I would drop some news, so I had the information about the bounty on Friday. | |
| We found that out today. | |
| I didn't know the Department of Justice would be publicizing the bounty like it's a John Wick movie, right? | |
| And they put it out there. | |
| Matt Gaetz comes on my show a couple of days ago, and he says there's five assassination teams targeting Trump. | |
| Five assassination teams, three of which have foreign ties. | |
| I think we know one of them already. | |
| And then two of which are domestic. | |
| What people need to understand is the bounty and the five assassination teams are tied. | |
| It's like they're actually competing for this bounty. | |
| Donald Trump's very life is on the line, and every time he goes up to speak now, he has to stand behind what I call leftist glass, because they keep trying to kill him. | |
| He's a brave man, I must say, whatever you think of Trump. | |
| He doesn't need this. | |
| So when I had the opportunity to sit backstage with Tucker Carlson, I noticed that there's been a sort of undercurrent on his tour. | |
| He's been talking more and more about spiritual warfare. | |
| And folks, yes, it is Halloween season, but at the same time, we do have to actually start to ask these questions. | |
| Are demonic forces real? | |
| Is the supernatural world in fact real? | |
| We got information just a few weeks ago that the Shroud of Turin is in fact real. | |
| The question before us is one that we can actually observe with our own eyes. | |
| Evil is real in the world. | |
| We can see it. | |
| The question is, is evil driven by an evil supernatural force? | |
| And if evil is in fact true, Does then that mean to follow that good is also true? | |
| I had the opportunity to talk to Tucker about this, and you guys get to see it now for the first time. | |
| Tucker, we're here in Reading, we're on the tour, but there's been an interesting through-line, undercurrent theme that I've noticed on your tour as you've been going through these events. | |
| Are we in a spiritual war? | |
| Well, I mean, let me just say I am the least qualified person to speak on this or any other spiritual topic in that my flaws are really obvious, they're certainly obvious to me, and I have no grounding at all in theology. | |
| or religion or anything. | |
| So I really shouldn't even be talking about this. | |
| It's just that it's so obvious to me that the motives we ascribe to people are not the whole story and that people are being acted on by forces outside of nature, which we call above nature, super nature, supernatural. | |
| I don't think any honest person can deny that. | |
| I don't think you need to be a Christian, which I am, by the way. | |
| But to see that, I think you just need to apply logic and empiricism and just look around, like, what is that? | |
| Why are they doing that? | |
| Why are they worshipping violence, even when it doesn't help them? | |
| Killing for its own sake. | |
| What is that? | |
| That's not a human. | |
| That's not a natural human impulse. | |
| Animals don't worship violence. | |
| They use violence as a means to achieve what they want, like eating. | |
| But they don't do it for its own sake. | |
| And our leaders do it for its own sake. | |
| They hurt people for the thrill of hurting people. | |
| Again, that's not a natural instinct. | |
| It's a supernatural instinct, and it's evil. | |
| And we see it all around us. | |
| So yes, of course, this is a spiritual war. | |
| Obviously, it's not a crackpot Thing to say, it's the opposite. | |
| It's the obvious conclusion. | |
| And what's wild to me is that we're so dulled. | |
| We're so trained to ignore the obvious and to suppress our own instincts that it sounds crazy to the modern Western ear, but yeah, it's clear. | |
| It's actually kind of interesting that you can find your way, in a sense, to the good because of the obvious reality of evil. | |
| It's smart. | |
| I strongly agree, and that's been my path, actually. | |
| And I've had this since now, everyone I know talks about the spiritual realm all the time. | |
| And again, I think we're from different parts of the country, different cultures. | |
| I did not grow up in that culture at all. | |
| Like I never met anyone. | |
| You had like a crucifix in the house or went to like a religious school or believed in God, really? | |
| I mean, I never met anybody. | |
| There was nobody. | |
| And I'm from Southern California, an affluent town in Southern California, no Catholic people. | |
| It was, you know, secular Protestants like me, secular Jews like my friends. | |
| Nobody talked about this stuff. | |
| So, um. | |
| Now, like everyone I know, no matter how they grew up, not everyone, but a lot of people are talking about this stuff. | |
| And a lot of people are saying exactly what you just said, people in my orbit. | |
| I never believed that there could be a supernatural realm or God until I saw this evil, which I couldn't explain its origin or its purpose, because it has no human purpose. | |
| And that put me on this path to understanding that there's not simply evil, but also good, which is also all around us, which we don't notice, but it's real. | |
| You talk about influences. | |
| These are influences. | |
| And they're friends of mine. | |
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| Yeah, I've always said that's a, you know, they talk about, you know, black pill and the white pill, you know, the black pill is despair, the white pill is hope. | |
| The biggest white pill is that when you realize that there is evil and when you realize that, wait a minute, this person is acting that way because they're evil or because they're being acted on by evil in a greater sense of it, not to go like super theological on you, but that if that must be real, then wait a minute, Does that mean the other stuff is real? | |
| Does that mean the good guys are real? | |
| Well, yeah, and I don't... I mean, I'll just say right up front, I don't know any theology. | |
| I have almost no interest in learning any. | |
| So I don't think it's theological. | |
| It's just something that you notice. | |
| That's really interesting, by the way. | |
| Yeah, well, I'm just describing my own... I mean, I think a lot of people listening probably grew up in a different tradition and have a grounding to explain this. | |
| I don't. | |
| I'm just noticing it and trying to make sense of it, and this is the conclusion that I have come to. | |
| I think that we know it's evil because it destroys the people through whom it flows. | |
| And it actually has made me a lot less judgmental of people who do evil things because I notice that they are destroyed by them. | |
| And I'm not saying that from like a judgy, like, do a bad thing, get punished point of view at all. | |
| I'm just noticing it. | |
| And the explanations, the secular explanations don't make any sense. | |
| It's like, oh, they're in this for the money. | |
| They're doing it to get rich or powerful. | |
| Well, maybe that's what they think, but I've noticed in every single case, people through whom this power flows are themselves destroyed. | |
| You know, the trainees are not winning. | |
| They're losing. | |
| The people who are trying to convince you to castrate your children are seeing their own children castrated. | |
| And they themselves are being denied grandchildren, which is like the most basic of all human desires, is to see your genes pass on through your line to have grandchildren, and they're being denied that. | |
| So they're actually not winning at all. | |
| They're being destroyed. | |
| And that's the nature of evil. | |
| It destroys the person through whom it flows. | |
| And I'm not getting this from a theology textbook. | |
| It used to be a classical, you know, conception. | |
| It was even in like movies, like Hollywood movies. | |
| Well, I didn't even know that! | |
| Okay, so I'm not, again, I'm an Episcopalian. | |
| We didn't learn this. | |
| All we learned was wear a tie to church and don't applaud. | |
| Okay, that was our theology. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| And maybe I went to a particularly shallow church, probably, but whatever. | |
| I just have noticed it. | |
| The one with the cross is ours. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They're not getting away with it. | |
| I mean, I look at Albert Bourla, you know, someone I consider evil or Tony Fauci, evil. | |
| And I see Kamala Harris, clearly evil. | |
| All these people are miserable. | |
| So they're not winning. | |
| And that makes me feel compassion for them. | |
| I'm not going to vote. | |
| For Kamala Harris, of course, I pray that she doesn't win. | |
| Albert Bourla, I think, did something really evil to the world with the vaccine. | |
| However, I just have to be honest and say, I don't think they're, like, living in peace and joy and splendor on some Caribbean island, like, cackling to themselves, I won! | |
| They didn't win. | |
| They lost in a really profound way. | |
| It's on his face. | |
| Look at Albert Bourla. | |
| Yeah. | |
| This is not a man who is, like, sleeping a sound eight hours. | |
| Right? | |
| And that does make you feel compassion for them. | |
| And I'm being dead serious. | |
| That's a very Christian response though. | |
| I don't know if it, I mean, it's a natural, once you understand that they're not riding off into the sunset with their ill-gotten loot to enjoy it, they're living in torment, and it's very obvious. | |
| Joe Biden, one of the reasons I could never hate Joe Biden, though he definitely deserves to be hated, I would say, but I could never really hate him because I always felt bad for him. | |
| It's clearly like his whole life is a mess. | |
| How are your children doing? | |
| Which is the key question that any normal person asks himself. | |
| How are my kids? | |
| And I know one of his kids, and I knew two of his kids, actually. | |
| So the whole thing, it's the saddest thing ever, and that's what evil looks like. | |
| It destroys everything it touches, including all of us. | |
| All of us have had evil flow through us. | |
| I'll speak for myself. | |
| I've done evil things, and it's hurt me. | |
| So the more you allow that, the more hurt you become, the more damaged you are. | |
| It's very sad. | |
| And then so this can kind of increase its scale. | |
| So when you apply it to a country, or not even that, you apply it to a town, the town gets ruined, a state, the state gets ruined, a country, the country gets ruined. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Country between country. | |
| Exactly. | |
| That's war. | |
| Well, that's exactly right. | |
| That's its sort of natural end point is just people destroying each other. | |
| But you see it when you visit countries. | |
| I've visited a lot of country, a lot of country, you know, many dozens of countries and, you know, countries that are hurting other people as a matter of policy tend to be a mess and countries that, you know, and now I sound like a liberal, which I'm certainly not. | |
| But, you know, countries that seek peace or try to facilitate some sort of nonviolent answer. | |
| are thriving. | |
| I've seen it in the last year. | |
| I've seen it. | |
| So, yes, I think we can judge the tree by its fruits. | |
| Is something good or bad? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Take a look at it. | |
| What do you see? | |
| Do you see chaos or order? | |
| Do you see filth or cleanliness? | |
| Do you see love or hate? | |
| Do you see violence or reconciliation? | |
| Like, it's kind of that simple. | |
| Do you see sobriety or drug addiction? | |
| And if you see a lot of bad things, well, they're there for a reason. | |
| Right. | |
| I mean, this is like the first grade theology that I have. | |
| To the extent I have theology, it's that. | |
| Right. | |
| Because the essential extra step that a lot of people don't make is, okay, like we have the misery index now, for example, is kind of what we're talking around. | |
| And so the question is, What does the misery index serve? | |
| When the GDP goes up, you can say, all right, well, this kind of helps the stock market and the bond traders are doing well. | |
| They like when the GDP goes up, but it kind of hurts these people over here. | |
| So, you know, we can focus on that. | |
| But then when the misery index goes up, it's like, Well, it doesn't seem to be going down. | |
| So is someone benefiting from the misery index? | |
| Well, I don't even know someone's benefiting. | |
| Someone's doing wrong or something. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, look, when a father gets caught cheating on his wife, his daughter suffered, screws them up. | |
| It screws up their relationships with men. | |
| Not always, but often, very often, often enough that it's a cliche, but it's it's real. | |
| A good father has happier kids. | |
| OK. | |
| Right. | |
| That's why I feel sorry for Joe Biden. | |
| Look at your kids. | |
| They're a disaster. | |
| Um, so that is a direct reflection of your leadership as their father. | |
| And I think it's also true for countries. | |
| And, you know, I like, I really care about aesthetics because I care about beauty because I think it's a reflection of God. | |
| That's why I love nature. | |
| Correct. | |
| And healthy countries make beautiful things. | |
| Beautiful, useful things. | |
| And unhealthy countries just make bombs, or lend money in interest, you know, or sell the same piece of ground over and over and call it the real estate sector. | |
| Like, those are not signs. | |
| Those are tangible signs of your economy, but they're also tangible signs of your moral status. | |
| If you're not creating beautiful things, there's something rotten at the core. | |
| I really believe that And obviously You mentioned order as well And you require You know a society to Achieve that kind of output Requires that order At the lower levels as well To in order to build up to that Yeah but it flows down from the top I mean my views on this Have completely changed Mostly through parenthood But I think leadership Oh 100% Yeah well you're in the military You know this I was never in the military I was never in the boy scouts You're in the military | |
| It's like You know When you've got a bad CEO You know And just everything sucks And nothing works together And nobody, there's just nothing worked. | |
| And nobody cares. | |
| That's, that's a big part of it. | |
| Nobody cares that it's, you're there, you know, Hey, I checked in at this time. | |
| Hey, I'm checking out this time, but you don't care. | |
| Cause you're not focused on the mission. | |
| You don't care about the mission. | |
| You don't know what the mission is, maybe. | |
| See, I never understood that. | |
| But then. | |
| We have changed a command, and just a finished thought, once we have changed a command, and when someone comes in who inspires, someone who gives you a clear sense of purpose, someone who explains the mission to you, suddenly you feel like you have a part of it and suddenly you feel like you want to do something. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So leadership really matters. | |
| In fact, it makes all the difference. | |
| And I never understood that. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| Because I'm non-hierarchical. | |
| I'm anti-authoritarian. | |
| I'm anti-authority, actually, instinctively. | |
| I always thought of myself as a libertarian. | |
| OK. | |
| I mean, I was an idiot, basically, but I missed all of that. | |
| And I didn't understand that the health of any organization depends upon its leadership. | |
| And I was won over to that by watching my own family and having a lot of children and realizing Wow, it's really up to me to be a good leader because that really matters. | |
| It's getting in the game. | |
| For real. | |
| Oh yeah. | |
| And what applies to the family in broad terms applies to every human organization because the family is the most basic human organization. | |
| And every other organization mimics its basic dynamics. | |
| Yep. | |
| And again, these are lessons that I was not taught, but just sort of learned over decades of watching, sort of. | |
| And anyway, so yes, if you have an evil leadership, you have a dying country. | |
| And if you have a decent leadership with all the hallmarks of decency, the first one is humility, always. | |
| You know, you're not God. | |
| That's like the first requirement of leadership. | |
| There are limits to your foresight and to your power. | |
| Leaders who recognize that tend to have thriving countries. | |
| And you really see it. | |
| But the making things. | |
| Like, what do you make? | |
| Are you making something beautiful? | |
| Do you have... Like, we just... By the way, archaeologists understand this. | |
| We not only judge, but we classify entire civilizations based on the objects that they made. | |
| We don't know the names of the indigenous communities that lived in this country 10,000 years ago. | |
| We judge them by the kinds of arrowheads and spear points. | |
| Have you been in Mount Rushmore? | |
| No, never. | |
| So I went out there when Trump did the 4th of July deal there a couple years ago, and I can't remember, they had a little plaque talking about the guy who designed the mountain. | |
| I can't remember the name of the guy, I think he was an Italian immigrant. | |
| I'm probably totally wrong. | |
| I will fix this in post if I am. | |
| Most of the great stonemasons were Italian immigrants, of course. | |
| All of our cathedrals were built by Italian immigrants, yeah. | |
| But I remember this quote, and they asked him, why did you want to do this? | |
| Why did you want to do this? | |
| And he said, because it is what great societies do. | |
| Of course. | |
| They create things of beauty. | |
| Not dollar stores. | |
| And he said, and 5,000 years from now, when whatever thing is here in this place, they will look at this mountain and know that these were our greatest leaders. | |
| And I said, that's perfect. | |
| That's the perfect answer. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like, why don't we know that? | |
| Dying societies destroy things. | |
| That's what they do. | |
| Destroy physical things. | |
| They destroy cultures. | |
| They destroy other countries. | |
| They become obsessed with war. | |
| They make a lot of bombs and nothing else. | |
| And their leaders celebrate that. | |
| Leaders like Nikki Haley, you know, filthy people like Nikki Haley, truly filthy people like Nikki Haley or the governor of your state, Pennsylvania. | |
| Josh Shapiro. | |
| Josh Shapiro, who was photographed today signing an artillery shell. | |
| I mean, I do think, though, can I say one obvious thing that like normal people, if they take away all the, you know, the propaganda, they try to Just clear their vision a little bit and forget what they've been forced to believe. | |
| Recognize that as disgusting. | |
| That's disgusting. | |
| If he was signing AR-15 bullets and passing them out to the Crips in LA, you'd be like, that's disgusting. | |
| That's going to kill somebody. | |
| And I'm a gun person. | |
| I like guns. | |
| But I don't like violence against anybody, and particularly not against innocents, and artillery shells kill innocents. | |
| Josh Shapiro, you freaking monster. | |
| You disgusting human being. | |
| Why isn't he visiting? | |
| You know, why not? | |
| By the way, how could you be the governor of a state with Reading in it? | |
| I just drove here. | |
| You're not far from Philadelphia, by the way. | |
| I did not bring up Josh Shapiro first. | |
| People know that he and I have a little bit of a history. | |
| last night but it's a mess how could you preside over a mess and turn your attention to some country in eastern europe i don't understand that you're ignoring your people i did not bring up josh shapiro first people know that he and i have a little bit of a history he brought it up first signing artillery shells to be used against civilians in a war we're not even technically in He's always been like this. | |
| He's disgusting. | |
| He will say or do or cover up anything. | |
| He's covered up murders when he was the AG. | |
| But they're violence worshippers. | |
| That's what we don't say to them. | |
| They're violence worshippers. | |
| Normal people are... I've seen violence actually a lot. | |
| And normal people are horrified by it, and we can argue over whether it's justified in some specific case. | |
| In my view, it's only justified in self-defense. | |
| That's a broad category. | |
| We can argue what that means, self-defense. | |
| But no person takes joy in violence. | |
| No normal person takes joy in violence. | |
| So a couple of years ago, I had the animal. | |
| I had the opportunity to visit my family's hometown in Poland for the first time. | |
| And it was like right before we got married. | |
| And it was just gorgeous. | |
| It was just idyllic, you know, village farms in like southeastern Poland. | |
| And I'm like, wow, this place is great. | |
| Beautiful cathedral, by the way, in the middle of town. | |
| Why would anybody want to leave? | |
| Like, why did my ancestors leave this place? | |
| You know, you see some kids going down the dirt road and you think, well, it could have been me, you know? | |
| And, like, why would you ever want to leave? | |
| And then 2022 was when Ukraine kicked off, which is, like, right down the street. | |
| And NATO took over Poland. | |
| Oh, totally took over. | |
| Did they make it better? | |
| They rigged the election. | |
| Completely threw out the conservative party that was there. | |
| Of course. | |
| Used mail-in voting to do it. | |
| Used this weird, like, half-third-party thing. | |
| And now it's like, OK, now I get it. | |
| They wanted to get off the merry-go-round of death. | |
| A hundred percent. | |
| NATO's taking over Eastern Europe. | |
| Romania, same thing. | |
| But are they improving? | |
| Look, you know, every age has an imperial power that, you know, runs everything. | |
| I get it. | |
| But are they making it better? | |
| So Tucker, to wrap things up, how do we, how do we get off that cycle? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I mean, tell the truth, no matter what. | |
| Like, don't bow to evil under any circumstances, no matter what they do to you, period. | |
| Like, be a little braver than we're currently being. | |
| I don't think it's that hard. | |
| I mean, no single person's gonna change the world, but collectively, if people just take minor steps, like, just be a little braver. | |
| I'm so afraid. | |
| Really, what are you afraid of? | |
| You're gonna die in the end anyway. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I know. | |
| I know exactly. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Look, that's why here in Pennsylvania, this is my home. | |
| Plain in my feet. | |
| 100%. | |
| And that's it. | |
| You're born here. | |
| Don't leave. | |
| I fled California. | |
| I felt guilty about it ever since. | |
| Might have to do it. | |
| Tucker Carlson, ladies and gentlemen. |