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June 21, 2024 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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America First vs. The World

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Who will be standing where one week from tonight during the Trump-Biden debate?
Biden won the coin toss, which meant he got to choose either where he was standing or who went last.
He chose to be on the right side of your screen, just as in the last two debates with Donald Trump.
And Trump, in his reality TV fashion, has decided he would like to get the final word of the night.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live from Washington, D.C.
Today is June 21st, 2024.
Anno Domini.
Folks, let me tell you something about America first.
America first.
Because the theme of today's show is going to be America first versus the world.
And there have been these comments going around that President Trump made on the All In podcast regarding, do we want to allow more foreign workers and everyone who goes to college here should get a green card stapled on the back of their diploma?
Honestly, Gotta say I disagree with that policy.
I think the policy that we need needs to be America first.
And when I say America first, I mean Americans first.
I mean that the elected representatives of this country do not have a duty to foreigners.
You have a duty to the men, The women and the children of this nation first.
Let me tell you something.
You want to talk about the workers' jobs.
You want to talk about wages.
These high levels of immigration that we have been experiencing have saturated the job market.
They've led to increased competition for jobs.
Downward pressure on wages, particularly in low-skilled occupations.
You restrict legal immigration and the government then ensures that American workers have better access to job opportunities and college opportunities because you're not undercut by the oversupply of labor.
By the way, this also mitigates the unemployment rates and protects high-skilled employment for those sectors.
When you talk about big tech, they say the tech sector.
Why shouldn't Americans be the first in line for those jobs?
You're going to tell some kid in Sandusky, Ohio?
You're going to tell some kid in Terre Haute in South Bend, Indiana that, oh, I'm sorry, but some foreigners got your slot because they filled some kind of diversity quota?
No.
Absolutely not.
Plus, the colleges to begin with are already centers of anti-American enemies.
The anti-American enemies, we call them un-humans in my new book, are totally in control of these campuses.
So you're bringing in non-Americans to these facilities that then become immigration centers for the entire third world.
They become immigration centers for all of these countries that none of our people Get a chance to because they get the front row seat, they get put in the front of the bus, and the American people get to sit there and watch as a slot that they could have won through their own merit is taken away from them.
They're training their own replacements.
You're being replaced in the workforce, you're being replaced in the college, high-end college, Ivy League, and then eventually those votes will go to the Democrats as well.
We want to stop this and we are going to stop this.
If you want, by the way, successful immigrant integration, if you want the preservation, by the way, of social services, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, all right?
You cannot have a welfare state and open borders.
It doesn't work.
It will never Not to mention, by the way, the national security issues that we've started to see because you're not vetting the people that come into this country.
You're not vetting them at all.
You don't know who the communists are.
You don't know who the Hamas supporters are.
You don't know who the Islamists are.
You're letting them in to fulfill diversity quotas and we're against it.
We're gonna stop it because from now on, it's America first.
America first.
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Okay, so we're working on, we've got a very special guest for you guys coming up next.
And I want to explain what's really going on here, what some of the deep-seated issues are.
Because when we talk about where we are as a country, we understand that President Trump Only ever had a lane to come in through populism because the American people realized that they had been getting a raw deal from their government.
Look, go spend some time in the Rust Belt.
I mean that.
I really mean that.
There's a reason that it's called the Rust Belt, by the way.
Those parts of the rusted out post-industrial Northeast, those parts of Western Pennsylvania, Talking about Ohio, I'm talking about Michigan, I'm talking about Wisconsin, even a ton of Iowa as well.
There's a reason that all of that was done, and that reason was a choice.
That reason was a choice made by the American government and American multinational corporations That they were not going to be American corporations anymore because they became international corporations and the leadership class, the elite class, the cosmopolitan class of these corporations no longer became rooted, no longer became rooted in
their country it made them rootless it made them these international cosmopolitans and so when you have a ruling elite that is totally separated from people totally separated from places totally separated from the pain that their decisions cause on these these areas uh sanford maine
by the way another great example of this where you've got these incredible cities these incredible towns and I just mentioned a bunch of them, but they've been completely gutted by policy, Again, by policy.
Because what did we do?
We decided that we would let the slave labor of China become the manufacturers of the world, that we weren't going to build things anymore.
By the way, the Europeans are looking at the Ukraine war right now.
So go look at Mario Draghi, and I read he's got the new proposal out, the head of the Central Bank of Europe.
And Mario Draghi, the former prime minister of Italy, is starting to realize this.
He's saying, wait a minute, guys, if the United States can't manufacture the industrial output that we need for a war with Russia, and China is gonna side with Russia, then we need to rebuild our manufacturing sector.
Now, of course, they realize this way too late because Nord Stream 2 has already been destroyed.
Their manufacturing sector in pretty much every country outside of Germany has been gutted, the German manufacturing sector.
And everybody knows, of course, the cars, the watches, Lufthansa, the airline, all of the great engineering that comes out of Germany is also being gutted because what's the major input that you need for all those things is gas, is your energy input.
And that is going to affect the rest of it.
So all of a sudden you become uncompetitive.
Your entire market is destroyed.
Now you can't operate as a country anymore.
Self-sufficiently, you become dependent on the international order.
And so when you hear, by the way, these connections of the rules based order, or when you hear people like Lindsey Graham talking about the mineral wealth of Ukraine is what the entire war is about.
That's exactly what he's telling you.
He's actually telling you the truth for the first time.
They don't care about the Ukrainian people.
They care about the energy.
They care about the natural gas and the oil fields and everything that's out there.
Look, say what you want about what the left talks about the war for oil.
What we say here on Human Events Daily is, chercher le pétrole.
Cherchez le Petrol.
So the French have the phrase, right, the great phrase, Cherchez la femme, look for the woman.
But here in Human Events Daily, when it comes to international politics, we always say, Cherchez le Petrol, look for the gas, look for the energy.
And so to understand, so understanding the Trump phenomenon, and understanding the situation that we're in, is so directly and intrinsically connected to the debate between President Trump and Joe Biden.
And joining us now to give us perhaps a little preview of that debate is Caroline Sunshine, the Deputy Communications Director for the Trump campaign.
Caroline, do we have you? - Hello, how are you?
It's great to technically see you, but it's great to be with you.
That's right.
You can see me, I think.
So tell us, looking forward, all of America is talking about the debates.
How is the campaign Looking forward to this debate, what are some of the top issues that you are planning to bring up?
Obviously, don't reveal your entire strategy here.
I'm sure somebody from the left, Media Matters, is always watching me.
But in terms of preparing for the debate, what are some of the big picture, universal vision strategies that you're looking at?
Well, quite different from Joe Biden's preparation.
Joe Biden's hand must be real tired from signing all those mass amnesties, so I guess that's why he had to retreat to Camp David for the next six days.
That is the exact opposite of how President Trump is preparing for this debate.
President Trump is going to prepare for the debate with the best preparation we think he could get, which is just by being himself and keeping with his regular daily schedule of talking to the American people and talking to the media, which, if you think about it, is exactly what Joe Biden and President Trump are going to do on the debate stage.
They're going to speak to the American people and they're going to speak to the media, except only one of those candidates is actually doing that this weekend and over the next few days.
Of course, President Trump is looking forward to being in Pennsylvania this weekend with the great American patriots there.
But look, you know, I'll be shocked if Joe Biden can string together a sentence on the debate stage, but that's not what the bar is here.
Let's be very clear.
The bar here is that Joe Biden has to, for 90 minutes, defend and explain his record to the American people.
And he's got a lot to explain.
Joe Biden needs to explain to the American people why he is giving free flights and free hotels to illegal immigrants instead of bringing Rachel Morin's killers to justice, instead of helping Americans afford their own rent and mortgage payments.
Joe Biden needs to explain to the American people why he's allowing illegal immigrants to get access to Medicare and Social Security rather than protecting our seniors.
Joe Biden has plenty to explain for 90 minutes.
Meanwhile, President Trump is going to do what he does, like I said, every day, right?
President Trump has an exceptional record.
Of bringing peace deals to the Middle East, giving us the most secure border in U.S.
history, bringing us an economy where the American dream actually still felt attainable to Americans.
So it's a tale of two presidencies.
It's a tale of two records.
It's going to be very obvious.
We're going to be in hostile territory with CNN hosting this debate.
Joe Biden would never agree to a debate, for example, on your esteemed network, right?
We know we wouldn't, but President Trump is I'm happy to debate anytime, anyplace, anywhere.
And I actually think President Trump does best when he's in more hostile settings.
So we are really looking forward to this and President Trump's looking forward to talking to the American people.
Now, let me ask you this, because obviously you mentioned as well about not only Joe Biden's stamina, but his ability to stay up there.
How much, though, is competence going to come up?
Because I've heard a lot of people refer to Biden as Jimmy Carter.
Is that a tack that you believe that the president will be taking at this debate?
Well, I always say Joe Biden somehow manages to make Jimmy Carter look like a lightweight, right?
I don't think it matters what version of Joe Biden shows up on the debate stage.
I still think we should have a drug test beforehand.
But no matter what version of Joe Biden shows up, the great thing about President Trump is he, and I know you know this, President Trump is himself, no matter where he is, right?
And we don't really care which version of Joe Biden shows up, whether it's the cheap fake version or... I just still laugh at that.
Whatever version of Joe Biden shows up, his record is the same.
He's going to have to explain to the American people again why their dollar is worth 20% less today, why a Big Mac costs $7.49.
Why gas is $5 a gallon.
Why he would rather go after mothers, use counterterrorism resources to go after mothers of school-aged children, criticizing their school boards, exercising their First Amendment rights, rather than protecting mothers, like Rachel Moran, again, a mother of five, who now leaves behind five young children, who was allegedly killed by an illegal immigrant from El Salvador who should have never been here because of Joe Biden.
So, he'll have plenty, he'll have his hands full.
Look, these are the horrific realities that unfortunately our people are going to have to live through and do have to live through on a daily basis when another one, remember, we're supposed to call them the newcomers.
So all right, Biden's newcomers, another one of Biden's newcomers has taken out one of our citizens, another one of Biden's newcomers, and unfortunately it seems to be We're coming up on a quick break, but because we got you in the middle, are we able to hold you over?
and young girls like this 12 year old that we saw on ghastly horrific story out in Texas her body thrown in a bayou and I don't understand how the Biden campaign plans I mean they're talking about these you know mock debates they're holding well I'm not really sure how it is they're going to come up with a response to this we're coming up on a quick break but because we got you in the middle are we able to hold you over can you hold on for a little bit yes let's see we love we're We love your audience.
We love talking.
All right.
We're holding on.
We are not letting go.
Trump campaign official, Caroline Sunshine, joining us here, Human Events Daily, The Debate Prep Show.
Be right back.
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All right, we're back here live, Human Events Daily.
We are on with Caroline Sunshine, the Deputy Communications Director for the Trump campaign.
Caroline, you were telling us a little bit more about the debate.
What is the strategy to combat Joe Biden when he claims that the economy has gotten better under him, and he's got all these very ridiculous facts and figures from the Bureau of Labor Standards?
Is the strategy simply to challenge those figures, or is the strategy really to call out the fact that the last four years have put economic pain on the American people?
I think we'll just call it a cheap fake.
What do you think?
No, I'm kidding.
I won't get ahead of, I won't get ahead.
Look, look, look, by the way, by the way, this was the thing.
All right.
All right.
Because you brought it up, because you brought up cheap fake, I got to say this, is that my boy Grand Old Memes had this kind of idea yesterday and he sent the meme up and it just, it popped into my head to do this as well.
Is that, is that the president, is that President Trump should actually call Joe Biden a cheap fake on the stage.
Like, okay, cheap fake.
Okay, cheap fake.
I don't know.
And it's actually a great situation because again, just like the term fake news, which was originally created by the mainstream media to refer to President Trump, it just gives him a great opportunity to spin it back and throw it right in their faces.
Oh Joe, are there some more of those cheap fake numbers that you guys have been coming up with?
Well, it's exactly right, right?
I mean, we're going to have fake Tapper and cheap fake on stage, you know?
I mean, like I said, we can't wait.
Anyways, I don't want to get ahead of President Trump, and I won't get ahead of President Trump, but I would say good luck to Joe Biden in continuing to try and gaslight the American people into believing the reality that they live in every day.
President Trump is not going to let Joe Biden Explain anything other to the American people than the facts.
And here are the facts.
A Big Mac in the United States today costs $7.49.
That's an 87.7% increase from just five years ago.
The average American family's dollar is worth 20% less today.
The average home in Michigan, the average household in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania, where by the way, President Trump continues to crush Joe Biden in battleground state polls, is costing the average American family an extra $980 a month, an extra $1,000 a month.
The credit card APR rate in the United States right now is 22%.
The credit card APR rate in the United States right now is 22%.
9% of those credit card bills are ending in delinquencies.
This is Joe Biden's record.
This is Joe Biden's record.
He's going to have to own it.
He's going to have to own it.
And again, this is where I think President Trump is exactly where he needs to be, is that it's really through President Trump that the American people kind of get a pair of glasses to see through media bias, to see through the corruption in their own government, right?
And, you know, you remember the last time President Trump did a town hall with CNN, Caitlin Collins tried to come after him, and he brought the receipts, right, as he always does.
So this is really where I think President Trump is at his best, is that he just really acts as sunlight being the best disinfectant.
So the one question, and I've got a ton of people here in the comment section asking about this, and I addressed it earlier in the show, but I figured, you know, since you're here representing the campaign, definitely got to ask.
So people are spreading these comments that President Trump made on the All In podcast regarding colleges and degrees for foreign students and the ability to give a green card to foreign students.
And a lot of people pointing out that, you know, that's separate from what he has said about communists and Hamas supporters, and I saw that Caroline Levitt had put in a comment regarding vetting after that.
What do you say to people who say this represents a policy shift for the campaign?
Was it intended as that, or is this something else?
Yeah, President Trump was talking about an idea, you know.
I think one of my favorite things about President Trump is he often lets things play out in real time.
I mean, he thinks out loud.
He really doesn't hide much from the American people.
He works through things.
He's always thinking about different ideas.
I remember, actually, I had the honor of serving in President Trump's White House, and I remember one of my favorite days was when he was sitting down to negotiate with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
And he brought the press corps in so that the American people could see how these negotiations were happening.
In real time, and I remember when Nancy Pelosi said, okay, that's enough, let's get the cameras out of here, and President Trump said, no, no, leave him in.
We have a government that's of, for, and by the people, and I think something that's so refreshing about President Trump, and that our base and our voters love about him too, is that he just speaks his mind, and he thinks through ideas.
So this was an idea he was thinking through, it was a really interesting conversation on the podcast, but I wanna be clear about what President Trump's gonna do on day one, because that's where his head is at.
President Trump's head and focus is on day one of his administration.
He was just in Wisconsin last week, this week, and he told that big, beautiful crowd in Wisconsin.
Beautiful crowd, by the way.
He said, I am going to restore the sovereign borders of the United States of America on day one, so help me God.
And on day one, President Trump is going to launch the largest criminal deportation in our country's history.
And he's going to do it with the help of our terrific men and women of local law enforcement.
And that's what has to be done, right?
I mean, we have, we've had under Joe Biden, 10 million illegal immigrants come across our southern border, 30 tons of fentanyl, 360 names on the terror watch list.
And beyond that, we have Joe Biden signing amnesty after amnesty, right?
Two days ago, Joe Biden signed an amnesty allowing 1.1 million illegal immigrants to stay in our country to gain access to things like Medicare and Social Security to have, let's be honest, we know what's coming next, right?
The right to vote, right?
We know that's what this is really about.
So President Trump is focused on making sure that we get these criminals out of our country.
And I think the mainstream media is gonna be in for a shock when he actually does it, because there are very detailed plans and proposals on how he can actually get this done.
That's what he's really focused on.
And beyond that too, I would say also, President Trump is focused on the victims of Joe Biden's migrant crime.
I mean, yesterday, President Trump was fortunate to speak with Rachel Morin's family.
He spoke with her mother, Patti, and I was really touched to hear Rachel Moran's mother share that President Trump's words brought her comfort.
I think anybody who knows grief, and I certainly wouldn't pretend to know the grief of losing a child, especially to an alleged illegal immigrant, should have never been in our country in the first place.
But I was really heartened to hear that President Trump's words brought her comfort.
I know President Trump to be a man of deep compassion.
I also know him to be a man of action.
And I know him to be a man of priorities.
And to be very clear, his focus is on day one in this country, getting all of these criminal, illegal immigrants who should have never been here in the first place, who shouldn't be crossing the border 16 times, getting these sanctuary cities under control.
That's his focus.
That's his priority.
Well, I couldn't agree more, and as you mentioned about sanctuary cities, he will be visiting a sanctuary city tomorrow afternoon, afternoon, evening, I think it's a 7 p.m.
rally there in, and by the way, not a place where there's a ton of, you know, traditional Republican support or traditional Trump support, 1776 North Broad Street, the Lea Chorus Center, a building that I am intimately familiar with because there at temple university where he's going to be giving this speech in north philadelphia that's actually where i went to school for four years uh about 20 years ago i was the temple university college republican chairman
that's kind of where i cut my teeth in all of this you know we can't all be disney stars like some people and sorry that was cheap um but of course we do that but hey you brought up the cheap fake tony brought up the cheap fakes um excuse me excuse me recover i'm a recovering college republican just like you're a recovering disney star and uh i have to get you in touch with james or keith for that one um and and you know the idea though that president trump isn't afraid to go to these areas
these areas that have experienced the horrors of lawlessness and the horrors and the victims of crime look when i went to school there it was look north philly was the way that it was but it wasn't you know you could as long as you were on campus you know and generally you didn't go out at night, it was okay.
You could, you could be fine.
Now, the criminals come on a campus, they kill children, they kill students, they go after people who are in the dorms, they go into people for off-campus housing.
It has become a shooting gallery, and I've even said to many people, I said, I do not go to Temple University, and then of course, President Trump comes back and calls me out on this and says, no, I'm going to hold a rally right there.
Walk me through the decision process.
Well, like I said, President Trump shows up any place, any time, anywhere, and he means it, because not only is he, you know, the leader of our party, but he also is going to be a president for all Americans.
You know, I know you have an excellent grasp of history, too, and so I was thinking about this.
President Trump's obviously going to Philadelphia, city of brotherly love, but also, right, the Where our country declared its independence from a tyrant overseas and it's very fitting to me because we're all living under a tyrant right now that doesn't feel that unsimilar from King George.
Of course, I'm talking about Joe Biden.
I mean, look at what Joe Biden's done, right?
He has weaponized the government against a political opponent and against the American people themselves.
He is putting citizens of foreign nations ahead of his own citizens.
And quite frankly, I'm sure if the Founding Fathers were alive today and saw the cost of a Big Mac, they'd be throwing more than tea into the harbor.
So I think it's just interesting and a really fitting juxtaposition.
You mentioned crime.
I'm so glad that you're going to be there tomorrow and provide that color.
I'm sure it will continue to resonate with the people of Philadelphia.
And that's the thing, right?
The MAGA movement, I think what's special about it, what's special about President Trump as the leader of this movement, it's a people-first movement.
It's about restoring government.
to truly be of, for, and by the people.
And that's everything that Joe Biden's government isn't.
If you can even call it a government at this point, right?
I think a better word for it is probably regime.
But yes, you know, I think you're continuing to see President Trump show up to these places, whether it's the deep blue Bronx or Detroit or Philadelphia, places traditional Republicans don't go because he's never been a traditional Republican.
And it's why you're continuing to see him gain support from all these different groups where, you know, the headlines in the polls are showing, oh, African American voters are abandoning Joe Biden, women are abandoning Joe Biden, but it's really actually Joe Biden that has abandoned black voters, It's Joe Biden who has abandoned women.
I'm glad you bring up crime, too, because this is something that I truly feel is not being covered, and I know President Trump intends to continue to bring to light.
Like I said, he was fortunate, and I mean that.
President Trump feels fortunate that he was able to speak with Rachel Moran's family.
He feels like the fortunate one, and he is.
But you cannot be pro-open border and pro-women, right, Jack?
I mean, like, the media always tells us, like, it's war zones... Not anymore.
No.
Not anymore.
I mean, you can't, right?
It's like, in war zones and foreign conflicts, you know, the media always tells us it's women and children who are disproportionately the victims of war crimes.
Okay, well, we have a war zone right here in our country.
Like you said, Philadelphia is a war zone, right?
And look at these crimes that are happening.
Look at these rapes and killings that are being committed by illegal immigrants.
These are violent, brutal crimes.
It is.
And they are disproportionately happening to women and children.
Joe Biden won't say there's two genders, just like he won't say Rachel Moran's name.
I mean, truly, you cannot be pro-open border and pro-women.
And Joe Biden's waging a war on women.
Let's call it what it is.
Caroline Sunshine, the Biden newcomer war on women.
Go give her a follow.
Caroline Sunshine on X. Always pleased to have you here.
Thank you so much.
It's been an honor.
Thank you so much.
Hope to see you next time.
God bless you all.
I know.
God bless.
All right, folks, stay tuned.
Huge segment coming up next.
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Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
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All right folks, Julie Kelly joins us next from Declassified.
Julie has been reporting significantly on the latest breaking mini trial that's going on right now in down in Miami, Florida in the courtroom of Eileen Cannon, Judge Eileen Cannon, regarding the appointment of Jack Smith as the special counsel.
Julie, give us the latest.
So Jack, this is today the beginning of a series of hearings that Judge Cannon is holding, and as I noted last month, basically turning the tables and Judge Cannon putting Special Counsel Jack Smith and the DOJ on trial.
So today's hearing relates to a motion to dismiss the case based on the unlawful and unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith as Special Counsel, basically saying That's because he was not appointed by the president or approved by the Senate, which, as you know, every U.S.
attorney, the 94, 95 plus, must go through that process.
He was not.
Furthermore, that his funding source was not approved by Congress.
This is the matter that former Attorney General Edwin Meese has filed an immunity brief at the Supreme Court in the immunity question, but also filed it in this case as well.
So there will be, there is debate ongoing.
The hearing started at 10 o'clock this morning.
Limited reporting right now, unfortunately.
I couldn't be there.
We have a wedding here at home this weekend.
So limited reporting coming out of the proceedings today.
We should get some tonight.
But then Monday and Tuesday and I will be there for those hearings, Jack.
Also, more motions to dismiss.
One, excuse me, one motion to prevent any jury from hearing, from seeing evidence collected at the Mar-a-Lago raid based on the unlawfulness of that raid and the FBI agents violating the terms of the warrant.
That's another Trump motion.
And then also Judge Cannon will hear Jack Smith's argument for another gag order against the former president, this time prohibiting him from criticizing law enforcement involved in that Mar-a-Lago raid in August of 2022.
And furthermore, any law enforcement agent or official who is involved in this investigation whatsoever.
So this is what's happening in Southern Florida over the next few days.
And so the potential here for Jack Smith's appointment, so do you think that it's actually in the cards that Judge Cannon, I'll just come out and say it, is it in the cards for Judge Cannon to actually rule that his appointment was illegitimate?
I don't know.
I honestly would be surprised if she did.
She might say there are legitimate concerns here, but quite frankly, this is something that Congress should have addressed.
So I don't even know if this is something that she would take up.
But again, while she's entertaining all of these defense motions, this is her way of letting the American people know how dirty, corrupt, and sloppy this investigation has been from the very beginning.
And so, she's already held hearings.
I've been there for other motions to dismiss, where the Jack Smith team has had to come back and confess that they've mishandled evidence and possibly misplaced Some evidence, alleged documents taken during that raid.
So this is her way of betting, of exposing this charade, this scam indictment, this sloppy, really now we know dangerous, raid of Mar-a-Lago and the investigation afterwards.
This is her way of letting the American people take a peek into what's been happening in this case for almost two years.
Well, and I love, by the way, if you look at the Newsweek coverage, things saying that, oh, this is an unusual step.
It's very unusual that she looks at this.
I'm sorry, it's unusual that there's a hearing on some of the motions and arguments that are made in a case.
No, the whole thing is unusual.
It is unusual to have a special counsel indict the leader of the opposing party when he's running for president.
That's what's unusual.
All of this is unusual.
It's so strange that they would be doing something like this.
And of course, so I'm looking at some of the coverage here from the Telegraph.
They are saying that Judge Cannon appears skeptical of Trump's argument that the special counsel was illegally appointed.
So that's in line with what you're saying, that it doesn't sound like she's been completely sold on the theory yet, but she is at least amenable to hearing it out.
Absolutely right.
And she also allowed Amici briefs on both sides.
And actually, they have representatives in court today on either side of this issue who will make their own argument separate from the government and the dissent.
So I think she really wants a full vetting of this special counsel appointment.
Of course, the independent counsel statute lapsed.
And this has sort of been in its replacement.
There was a challenge to special counsel Robert Mueller's appointment along similar lines.
The D.C.
Appellate Court, packed with Democrats, of course, upheld his appointment.
So this is just another way, again, to explore the constitutional validity of any special counsel appointment.
Well, and I was going to throw out, Julie, real quick, just based on what you said there, because apparently Cannon said to the prosecution at one point that, and this is according to Lawfare, so these are not, you know, these are Trump haters.
These are like, this is like Ben Weingarten, you know, those, the Ben Benjamin whites, these people who can't stand Trump.
The special counsel's statutory analysis reflects, quote, an excessively malleable reading of the text of the Constitution.
So she said that they were being excessively malleable in their reading of the Constitution.
This goes directly to what you're saying about the textual analysis of the statute.
Correct.
And I think that's that reporting I saw by Anna Bauer at Loughborough.
They certainly are not allies of ours, but they do have reporters there on the ground who are covering this.
And I think that she is probably giving at least a straightforward account in her tweets as to what's going on there.
So, yes.
And look, I've seen Judge Cannon do this.
Even though she is portrayed, and she certainly is giving DOJ and Jack Smith and his lieutenants, Jay Brett and David Harbaugh, a run for their money, making their lives miserable, she does not let the defense off the hook.
She has denied several motions, including one from last month, a motion to dismiss based on some of the fuzzier language in the indictment.
So she is not handing over to the defense everything that they want.
But what the DOJ really doesn't want is any of these public hearings.
They don't want these court proceedings where the reporters then have to go and cover it.
And it gets all these headlines, whether it's Washington Post or Politico today or whoever, is Jack Smith's appointment unconstitutional.
Without Judge Cannon, this wouldn't even be entertained.
And so now these headlines are being created skepticism about the validity of his appointment in the public, you know, now being scrutinized by the public and the media as well.
So this is, again, what DOJ certainly does not—but they have more trouble ahead than this.
And we could talk a little bit more about the big mini-trial she will put not just DOJ but Joe Biden's White House The National Archives and the FBI on, and this is evidence of collusion between all those entities as early as spring of 2021 to manufacture some sort of documents case against the former president.
The great Julie Kelly.
Look, I want more coverage from you.
I'm going to work with Real America's Voice to see what we can actually do in terms of getting you there at the courthouse, getting you a setup or something like that.
I believe it's Fort Pierce, Florida, where the actual courthouse is.
So we're going to work.
We're going to go in and see what we can do.
Julie Kelly, where can people go to follow you for the latest?
All right.
Thanks so much, Jack.
Oh, people can go to my sub stack, declassifiedwithjuliekellyxjulie-kelly2 in Real Clear Investigation.
All right, Julie Kelly, the one, the only.
Make sure you stay tuned with her, and we're going to be back Monday and Tuesday as the hearing, the mini-trial of Jack Smith continues.
Stay tuned.
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We go from Miami, Florida, all the way to Missouri, where Attorney General Andrew Bailey joins us now.
Mr. Attorney General, you've posted yesterday on Twitter that you're going to be suing the state of New York regarding their treatment of President Trump.
Walk us through that case.
Yeah, look, Jack, it is time that people fight back against the lawfare that is undermining our democratic process.
The people of the state of Missouri and people all across this country are being denied access to a presidential candidate in the heat of one of the most consequential elections in this nation's history.
And they're being denied that right by the apparatus of state government in New York.
In Missouri, we have a problem with that.
We're filing suit.
Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution gives the United States Supreme Court original jurisdiction over suits between states.
So it's going to be Missouri v. New York at the Supreme Court, and I would encourage other states to take a hard look at what you're doing to fight back as well, because your citizens are also being deprived access to a presidential candidate in the middle of a campaign.
This is election interference, and if we don't fight back, we will lose this country.
That's why this is so important.
Well, and so, that being said, going forward, what steps do you think you'd be able to actually achieve through the lawsuit process?
Do you think that it's something that could actually knock down some of these prosecutions we're looking at?
Yeah, I think that's an important step.
I think at a minimum, staying the proceedings until after an election and let's deal with it then.
Look, the timeline of a normal prosecution and conviction and appeal is about a year or more from charge to conviction and then 18 to 24 months for an appeal.
Sometimes it takes longer.
Here, you've got 34 counts.
Of an inchoate offense with an undefined predicate offense.
So the legal nuance is very, well, President Trump was denied due process.
So there's a constitutional flaw, but to the extent that anyone thinks this is a valid conviction, the legal nuance is present and thus it takes longer to formulate an appeal.
We can't wait for an appeal.
No one can wait for an appeal because we will be denied access to a presidential candidate.
President Trump will be taken off the campaign trail and will essentially be held up from participating in the presidential election.
We can't let that happen.
If we went back to 1860, no one would think it okay For a road prosecutor in a southern state to take President Lincoln off the campaign trail on the eve of the Civil War for speaking out against slavery, well that same thing is happening here today with President Trump.
That's why it's so important for states to take the action necessary to represent their people, to ensure that they have access to the election process as well.
And I think this is key.
Look, you know, so many people have said to us, said to me that, you know, how can they do this?
How are they doing this?
And, and of course, they'll tell us that they're fighting for democracy.
They'll tell us that they're the ones standing for the rule of law when they've been spending all year trying to prevent Trump from even appearing on the ballot.
They got closest with Colorado until the Supreme Court knocked that one down, completely kicked its teeth in, to be honest.
That was one of the most harrowing judicial responses and also hearing.
9-0.
It was just complete 9-0.
Even the liberals sided against them.
But it hasn't stopped them, to your point, because I think I agree that it completely is election interference that we're looking at rather than an actual stand-up election, one guy versus another guy, and determine who has the best ideas for the way forward for us as a country.
Yeah, President Biden can't win on the merits.
He will lose a head-to-head fight.
Everyone knows he's asleep at the wheel, doesn't have the mental acuity to participate in this election.
They had to rig the election in 2020 to be able to get him across the finish line.
They're trying to do it again.
They're censoring President Trump.
They're censoring all conservative voices on big tech social media platforms.
We're also awaiting a decision in Missouri v. Biden.
One of the most consequential First Amendment suits in this nation's history should be handed down any day now by the United States Supreme Court.
They're using lawfare to take President Trump off the campaign trail.
Abominable.
But what are we going to do about it?
The left uses lawfare to destroy our union and pervert the rule of law.
So what are we going to do?
We've got to use the tools at our disposal, like this lawsuit, Missouri v. New York, to fight back and assert our people's constitutional rights to participate in a presidential election.
Now, while I have you on, I'm also told that you've got something in the works regarding IBM.
Because, look, we've just seen James O'Keefe and the great video that he put out regarding Disney.
Tell us what steps you're taking against IBM.
Look, IBM has a racist DEI program that enforces quotas that disadvantage people based on the color of their skin.
That violates the Missouri Human Rights Act that explicitly prohibits employment discrimination based on ethnicity, national origin, and skin color.
Corporate racism is still racism.
And so we have filed suit against IBM to try to protect working Missourians who work within IBM's footprint from being subjected to these racist quotas.
This is really not only illegal, but insulting.
I mean, how dare corporate executives at IBM tell people who they promote that you weren't good enough.
You had to be given this through racial gerrymandering.
It's also insulting to the customers of IBM who are counting on IBM to produce a quality product.
No one should have any confidence that IBM is doing that anymore because they're placing racist diversity, equity and inclusion programs ahead of achievement and quality.
And so we've got to harpoon the corporate D.E.I.
oil and end corporate racism in America.
This lawsuit is an important first step in that direction.
Well, I think that not only is the New York lawsuit, is that going to be important and effective, but the IBM one might even be worse because this is something where we, and I was, I just started the show.
I just started the show today talking about how it is that middle America is constantly overlooked when it comes to big tech.
When it comes to the high-end sector, when it comes to the Ivy League, and this DEI has affected more than just the companies.
It's pervasive in that higher level, a higher strata of society for anyone who's been trying to get good grades and perform well in extracurriculars.
Suddenly, if you're from middle America and you don't fulfill the right, you know, DEI quota or whatever bean counters they're using to determine who gets to come into the company, Now suddenly you're shut out and it does disproportionately affect the middle of the country which you represent, sir.
Yeah, absolutely.
And look, our evidence against IBM is a video that surfaced late last year where the CEO of the company was saying things like Asians are not underrepresented minorities and thus must be excluded from the programs.
The CEO of IBM threatened his corporate executives that they would be sanctioned or potentially terminated if they didn't enforce the racist quota policies.
We're not talking about some mid-level bureaucrat in the HR department at IBM.
This is the very top of the food chain at IBM.
This is the president and CEO of the corporation.
How dare he, you know, violate the laws and enforce these racist policies?
It's illegal.
We're going to hold him accountable.
And this is a first step, again, in restoring the rule of law and putting merit and content to character ahead of this baseless reliance on skin color alone.
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