CORRUPTION REPORT CONFIRMS UKRAINIAN OLIGARCHS POCKETED DEFENSE FUNDS AS RUSSIANS WALK ACROSS BORDER
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The Ukrainian Corruption Center has reported that the Northern Border Defense Funds were diverted to fake companies, which allowed the Russians to then walk right across the border in the new Harkiv offensive because the defensive fortifications had never been built and in fact we've got reports from the Harkiv OVA We've got reports from Ukrainian Pravda.
These are pro-Ukrainian sources.
I want to be very clear about this.
Martina Boguslavets.
And others who are writing on these reports are completely, completely pro-Ukraine.
These are not pro-Russian sources in any way.
But they're saying that the local oligarchs who were in control of this area, this is the northern border region, we've got a map of this, so let's map break, get it up there.
This is Ukraine, this is Russia, this is Belgorod, Kharkiv, this is an area that had seen some Some advances in the early stages of the war.
Ukraine then came in and Russia had a paltry force that was holding these areas, pushed them back to the original Russian border, but just in the last couple of days, Russia has invaded and has been slowly encircling and taking settlement after settlement, village after village.
Now, this isn't a huge area, but what's interesting is the breadth of The advance so far, and what we're also being told is quite strangely, and people are reporting this on the Ukrainian side which is now even coming into Western press, the BBC has it, they're saying things like the Russian forces were able to walk right in.
They simply walked in.
So the question is, where are the defensive fortifications like the Russians had at the Serebryan line during the counteroffensive of last summer?
Where are those dug-in defenses?
What, you've just got a couple of guys there with shovels or something digging trenches?
Where's all the money?
Where's the $100 billion, the $61 billion supplemental which was just sent?
Where did it all go?
Where were the minefields?
Where were the entrenchments?
Where were the concrete barriers?
The Russians are simply walking across the border.
No, it's very clear.
It's very clear what's going on.
This is and has always been one of the most corrupt countries in Europe.
This is one of the reasons, by the way, that they were not given admission to the European Union for all of these years and have still not been given an invitation to the European Union.
This is one of the reasons.
That people had issues with Ukraine because of corruption.
It had nothing to do with politics.
And so now, when you've got a group like that, and you have that, and you provoke them into a war with Russia, guess what happens?
Oligarchs get rich, politicians get kickbacks, and good, brave people die in the process.
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We're working on getting Roger Stone here on the program.
And this is very key to folks, because we have to understand, how does our government operate?
Who actually rolls in this situation?
We have to understand who rules over us.
The Ukrainian budget, these bills that keep getting sent over, billions and billions of dollars, and we're told every single time that it has to be sent for the good of the people.
And then we're also told that Donald Trump isn't allowed to be president.
We're told that Donald Trump is a criminal.
We're told Donald Trump isn't allowed to be on the ballot.
And then we're even told that the judge in the case has a daughter who was working with one of the groups that was trying to get Trump off the ballot in Colorado.
Lawfare is not something that's just going on in your head.
It's going on in your country.
It's going on across your entire world.
Here's another angle to this.
Why is it that the regime is so intent on making sure that the one man, the one man who was not on the Epstein list, one man in power who was not on that list, is not allowed to return to the White House?
He's on trial.
Donald Trump's on trial, but every single client of Jeffrey Epstein is walking around free.
Understand, this isn't hypocrisy.
It's hierarchy.
You're looking at how the regime works.
You're looking at how the system of power works.
The system of trade-offs.
The system of levers.
You think they don't know?
You think they don't know that the oligarchs are pocketing the money in Ukraine?
You think that our politicians don't know that they're getting kickbacks from defense contractors when it comes to this stuff?
You think they don't know?
Of course they know.
They all know.
And that's why people like Speaker Johnson get put into office and all of a sudden change their entire tune when they get a little taste of power.
Because they get let into the club.
I'm told now that we've got political icon and a legendary political strategist, Roger Stone, joining us here again on the program.
Roger, how are you?
Jack, it's great to be back with you.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
I mean, despite my deep sentimental attachment to the old Republican Party of Lincoln, you know, the party of Lincoln, the party of Eisenhower, the party of Reagan, Nixon and Trump, In fact, we have a duopoly, a uniparty, a group of unelected elites who have corrupted our government, who control our government, who suppress our freedoms.
nomination in 2016 was the hostile takeover of the Republican Party of the Bushes and therefore the party of the new world order, the party of endless foreign war.
And they've been trying to destroy him ever since.
I mean, the most improbable guy comes out of nowhere with just his gumption and his patriotism and essentially his own money.
And he barrels to the presidency, disrupting the entire planned Bush versus Hillary narrative in which the war machine would not only lose nothing, but they would continue to prosper.
Our constitutional rights to free speech would continue to erode.
Our civil liberties would continue to erode.
We would go deeper and deeper into debt to pay for the endless foreign wars That profit these people.
And along came Donald Trump, who interrupted that for a brief four years.
And right now, they are apoplectic, Jack.
They are near hysterical that their war, their, I actually call it a tsunami of lawfare against Trump, simply isn't working.
It appears to anyone who can study the polling, to be backfiring very, very badly.
Now, Roger, here's a question that I have for you, though, and this is something that I laid out and I've been laying out for a couple of weeks, that I wasn't surprised when I saw the New York Times Siena poll yesterday.
I'm not surprised that I've seen the betting markets have now seen a massive swing for Trump.
He's now up five in so many of these.
He is widely being considered.
the favorite in this election.
It's actually become this because I think the courtroom trials have backfired and this is all something that I predicted, certainly that you predicted as well.
But here's what I am worried about and this is what I keep getting asked about as well.
You know, it's over in Eastern Europe and I kept getting asked this question and it really dawned on me They said, and nobody asked me, can Donald Trump win the presidency again?
They kept asking me, especially in Eastern Europe, where they would say, oh, your president is on trial.
We have seen these type of operations before.
We are very used to this kind of politics.
You know, in Romania and Hungary, and this is in Poland, this is how they operated.
into the 1980s.
Roger, the question they asked is, will Donald Trump be allowed to be president again?
And can Donald Trump defeat the regime?
And this is where I've come down, and I'd love to hear your take on this, that it's not that it's a political fight that he's in at this point, it's operational because we need the infrastructure to win.
I think he's already won on the issues.
Well, first of all, that was the best Boris Bedinov impression I've ever heard.
I want to congratulate you for that phrase.
But then second, secondarily say that, look, if we have a free, fair, honest and transparent election at this point, I think it is based on the trends and the situation, the dynamics.
Uh, likely that President Trump would win.
The Democrats have a toxic mix here.
Uh, this, the open borders policy is causing chaos in the land.
We have a, we have a, a, a drug crisis crisis.
We have a crime crisis.
We have a fiscal crisis because the states and cities and counties are in some cases required by law to pay for social services for people who are here illegally.
Even if that means slashing services for U.S.
taxpayers, we have gas prices going back up as we have to beg Venezuela, who sells us the worst oil in the world, tar that we have to refine at great expense, gets passed on to the gas users at the tank because we've abandoned the energy independence of Donald J. Trump.
And the inability of Biden to perform in public is obviously mentally slipping capacities combined with a sour economy.
We know these economic statistics that the administration puts out are largely manipulated.
I've talked about this at great length with the housing and economic expert Barry Habib on my own show, The Stone Zone, and also at 77 WABC Radio in New York.
These economic statistics, Jack, they're manipulated.
Combine that with the fact that we're on the cusp of world war in two regions.
And at least one region, we seem to be financing both sides of the war, which, you know, is has the potential to divide the Democratic Party as they were divided over Vietnam in 1968.
The EPA.
You know, this is the big thing.
And so Republicans stand to gain and gain big.
Roger, some of these swings that we've also seen in the New York Times poll talking about the youth vote, talking about blacks and Hispanics, came as a massive surprise to the mainstream media and the folks over at CNN and MSNBC.
But you've been talking about that here on this program for over a year.
Yeah, you see the incremental gains that Donald Trump is making in some of these Here to four, you know, unimpregnable voter blocs.
I mean, we have yet to see, you know, how much he will achieve in terms of the Jewish vote.
The Jewish vote in America is not insignificant.
It has been habitually, overwhelmingly democratic.
Seemingly, in many instances, Jewish voters voting against policies that would be best for Israel, which is sometimes perplexing.
But Trump has made historic gains even among Jews.
I think he can make more as someone who would bring stability to the region, someone who has a track record in the Accords, the Abraham Accords.
So someone who has a track record of bringing peace and bringing people together in the region.
But he's also made great strides among African Americans.
Much of that is about two things.
Trump actually did something about criminal justice reform in the First Step Act and the Second Chance Act so that if someone is arrested for the first time, nonviolent crime of possessing a tiny amount of drugs for their personal use, They're not sent to prison for the rest of their lives.
They're sent to drug treatment programs.
People have seen this and they can see where it's going.
Roger, quick break.
We'll be right back.
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Roger's handicapping the latest developments in the race.
Now, Roger, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you the big question everyone's talking about, the Veep stakes, the VP stakes.
We've got this photo up at President Trump's trial today, and I'm very, by the way, heartened to see the fact that the show trial is now being essentially viewed as a show trial, and it's become sort of a stopping ground for not only potential Potential cabinet members, but even potential vice presidents for Donald Trump.
We've seen Doug Burgum is up there today.
Vivek Ramaswamy.
A ton of people that are up there.
J.D.
Vance was there the other day.
I believe Rick Scott.
Probably a few more.
Elise Stefanik was there.
Many, many others.
Tommy Tuberville, who I think is doing a fantastic job representing the state of Alabama in the Senate.
So, Roger, what do you think about the veep stakes and the intersection with Trump's show trial in New York?
Well, look, I think everybody who attended the trial, as members of the public are allowed to do, did so in solidarity with the president to show him their support.
He's being forced to sit in this cold, drafty courthouse for hours on end over these mind-numbingly ridiculous claims by his critics.
And he's gagged and therefore limited in how he can even defend himself in public.
As you can imagine, it's very frustrating.
I think everybody there was there to support him.
But it was brought to my attention that every single one of the people you just named, every one of them wore a blue suit, a white shirt, and a red tie in solidarity with the president himself.
And of course, J.D.
Vance, President Vivek Ramaswamy, I think, went.
Both of them consistently mentioned as potential vice presidential candidates.
So, of course, it doesn't hurt for one to show your support.
Richard Nixon once told me that you can't actually run for vice president.
In fact, he says, if you want to be vice president, you have to be somewhat clever about it.
So you need to position yourself by the things you say and you do to demonstrate the asset that you would be to the presidential candidate without seeming to campaign for it.
One way to do that, of course, would be to show up at his trial in New York.
And I think this is excellent.
I think this is a huge mark across the world.
And by the way, Roger, I think it's also telling which Republicans are not at the New York trial.
I think you're not going to see the likes of Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and so many of these others.
I think by going there, they really are showing that President Trump has become the dominant force in the Republican Party.
And what we're seeing is them showing their loyalty and their support, really, for the leader of the GOP.
This is actually pretty big in and of itself, because, of course, we were told for so long from the likes of the people that were primarying him, the Ron DeSantis supporters, the Nikki Haley supporters and others, that President Trump's trials would be the death knell for him when, in fact, it's been the absolute opposite.
Well, I would say the fact that he's unfortunately pinned down to New York for days at a time, he's made maximum advantage of that.
I think very cleverly, first of all, going to the wake of a police officer who had been shot and killed by a man with 21 priors that the New York liberal justice system would not lock up, going to the bodega in, I think it was in the Bronx, going to the bodega in, I think it was in the Bronx, where the bodega Alex was assaulted, but the police arrested him instead of arresting the criminal, going to the firehouse and distributing pizzas.
And then who could have missed roughly 100,000 people on the shore in Wildwood, New Jersey, which may have been largest single presidential candidate rally In history.
I got trashed when I started trolling the left after putting up a number of pictures of how huge the crowd was.
I put up a photo of an aerial shot in San Pablo of a Rod Stewart concert, and the left has no sense of humor.
None whatsoever.
Look, 100,000 people is 100,000 people.
Get over it.
And this is something too where people have been saying that they don't understand that the basics of politics here are the basics of how just even normal parts of the country work.
And this is something where I can explain because that was my backyard growing up.
Every summer we went down to the Jersey Shore, to Ocean City, and the Stone Harbor, and to Sea Isle, and to Avalon, and of course to Wildwood.
Wildwood was always the big one.
I actually saw the comedian Gallagher there once years ago.
Late great comedian Gallagher.
And this was a spot where so much you're going to get I would say I'm willing to bet 45 to 50 percent if not more of that audience was Pennsylvania voters because it's only about a 90 minute drive plus you've already got Republicans from areas in New Jersey which has always been on the cusp in in presidential politics and places like No, look, you're absolutely right.
Look, this is a new phenomena.
So I worked for Ronald Reagan.
making a play and making his stand, as you outlined.
And he's even talked about doing a rally at Madison Square Garden.
Look, if he can get 100,000 people on a beach in Wildwood when it's still actually pretty cold out for this time of the year, imagine how many people he can get in Madison Square Garden.
There's no question he'll sell it out.
No, look, you're absolutely right.
Look, this is a new phenomena.
So I worked for Ronald Reagan.
He was very popular.
But we had to work very hard to get cheeks in seats at these rallies to get people to attend these rallies.
These are not even seated events, as you can see.
Everybody there is standing, other than those who brought beach chairs.
And they were hoping, hoping for 60,000.
I talked to folks in the Wildwood Police Department.
That 100,000 number is, that's not fluff.
It's very, very real.
Also, a large number of people, as you correctly point out, Jack, from Pennsylvania, a crucial swing state.
New Jersey, a state that polling now shows is within Trump's potential grasp.
Also, large contingent from New York, as you point out, substantial number of people from Connecticut as well.
And the polls in New York and New Jersey, at least, actually show both of them in range.
Again, it is the toxic mix.
Of the failure of Joe Biden's policies and the pressure it's put on the economy, the epic corruption of his family, his inability to show that he is firmly in control and has a direction that would profit the country, and his fumbling on the world stage that has made people remember how good they had it under the peace and prosperity of Donald J. Trump.
This is something that a lot of people are going to be looking at, and there's no question, going into the summer, the idea of this raucous, fun Trump rally where we can see the abject anger and the bitterness of so many of these leftist protests and rage mobs across campuses and blocking traffic.
And then you look at the Trump crowd and you see people who seem happy, who seem genuinely patriotic, people showing up with their children, people hanging off of balconies.
It looked like a fun atmosphere.
And I really can't get over this point we talked about yesterday as well, but that these people, Roger, were told that Donald Trump was a criminal, and they were told that they weren't allowed to support him, and there's just something that cuts against the very grain of what it means to be an American, to be told that you aren't allowed to support a certain candidate.
I think that's responsible for a huge part of the swing right now we're seeing.
Well, people always want more of what they're not supposed to have.
And despite the fact that mainstream media has tried to underreport any good news whatsoever for Donald Trump.
He remains extraordinarily resilient and popular with the people.
And he is gaining.
I think there is some sympathy factor, but more of it has to do with the fact that we have the worst president in our history.
And you can just look back at the Trump years, which when compared to the chaos we have today, looks orderly, but we knew was building We had the most robust economy in our history.
We had no new foreign wars.
We withdrew our fighting men and women from a number of countries.
Without those countries collapsing into the hands of the enemies, we left behind.
We had no aggression by Russia.
We had no aggression by Red China.
You can't say any of that about the failed Biden administration.
Certainly not.
Now, Roger, we only have a couple of minutes left here, but I have to ask you, there was a photo that was posted of you on the Internet last night with comedian Sam Hyde, who's been responsible for a number of things around our world.
Can you explain what was going on in this photo?
Sam Hyde is a very, very cool guy.
He asked me to do the narration in a project that I'm not allowed to talk about.
It's kind of something more aimed at children.
And I was happy to meet him.
His comedy is extremely offbeat, to say the least.
And I, of course, am banned for life at Instagram, where, of course, his biggest following is.
So he was an interesting guy.
He brought an interesting crew.
And I had to mix up some of Dick Nixon's legendary silver bullets.
It was vodka and gin martinis all the way around.
Roger, it's my son's sixth birthday today, so I'm certainly who you got to meet down when we had pizza down in Florida.
So whatever that project is, I can't wait to get it for him.
Roger, where can people go to get more of Roger Stone and get into the Stone Zone?
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Thank you, Jack, and God bless you.
God bless, Roger.
Thanks for being on.
Tony Schafer, Lieutenant Colonel, joins us next.
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I want to get back into now this Ukrainian corruption story, coupled with the fact that Russia has now launched its spring-summer offensive.
This is something that was predicted by none other than Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer here on this very program.
And when did Russia launch it?
Of course, May 9th, their National Day, crossing the border, slamming into the northern province of Kharkiv.
And of course, the question then becomes, how is it that Russia was able to come across so quickly, especially at a time when really everybody predicted that there was going to be an offensive?
The BBC put out reports saying that the fields were not mined, that the Russians were essentially walking right in.
And then Ukrainian Pravda puts out a report from the Ukrainian Anti-Corruption Center, which is actually affiliated with like George Soros and a bunch of lefties, was saying that The money that was sent for the defense of Kharkiv province had been funneled away into fake, fictitious companies.
The oligarchs were pocketing all of this, and the Russians were able to walk right in.
Guess what?
You think Russian intelligence didn't know where the fortifications were, didn't know about the money, didn't know what was going on?
It's very clear.
Here we are on the podcast watching all this.
Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaffer, let's get your take on these latest updates and developments out of Ukraine.
So, I think we need to take a step back and remember what we're dealing with here, Jack.
You and I are very good about tracking things, and one of the things I said in the beginning We are dealing with cultures which mirror each other, two sides of the same coin.
I don't care what what analogy you want to make, but the corruption in Ukraine is not significantly different than the corruption in Russia.
You can't call Putin and his oligarchs corrupt without accepting the fact that you've got the same thing with Zelensky and his his crowd.
So it's it's like, OK, they're all corrupt.
And then you then decide to pick a side, which again, I think this is a civil war.
We picked a side in the civil war, which was stupid.
And, uh, we've now been funding this other side and oh, by the way, we, we who are concerned about strategy, like why are we doing this and say, if you're going to fund it, let's account for it.
And then our own Congress won't do any oversight, won't actually look at where the money's going, which allow just again, it's like, You're fueling the very corruption we now acknowledge exists.
And then you get things like, oh yeah, we paid all this money for the construction and retention of barriers to prevent the Russians from invading or moving quickly if they invade.
And there's no barriers because all the money is gone to the oligarchs.
And we're somehow surprised by this, Jack.
Why are we surprised by this?
Well, I don't think we are surprised.
I think the fact is the Western media continues to To ignore what we've said are observable facts that actually impact on the relationship we have with Ukraine, at least it should.
And the fact is that there's no strategy, there's no belief that we're actually going to actually stop the Russians.
And here we are.
And I did say earlier this year in very clear terms, as soon as the Russians were ready, of a time of their choosing, they'll choose to come in and start offensive operations.
And we're at that point.
Yeah.
And so this is the real question that everyone is asking is with billions on the line, where exactly is the money going?
And there's no question that all of us who were saying that Ukraine, this is the reason they weren't allowed in the EU in the first place.
Right.
Even before the civil war kicked off, even before all this stuff kicked off in 2014, a decade ago, people were saying, and you could go and find the reports from all of the international auditing firms and all this.
They said there's too much corruption.
There's no way.
And Ukraine has always been, and really the Black Sea area, not just Ukraine, but many countries around the Black Sea have always been notorious for the trafficking of weapons, the trafficking of drugs, and unfortunately, the trafficking of...
Right.
human labor trafficking and sex trafficking.
This has always been a huge issue in the Black Sea.
A lot of countries are fighting it, but we already know that in Ukraine, apparently that, by the way, you don't even have to take my word for it because this is what Zelensky campaigned on.
Zelensky campaigned on cleaning up corruption.
And now you got a guy like this where people are making money by stealing hand and fist.
Tony Schaefer.
So yeah, meet the new boss, just like the old bosses, the Who says.
I mean, it's all the same, recycled over and over.
And the money's gone to three places.
First, I'll be blunt.
The American industrial base has been greatly benefiting.
Eisenhower once warned us of the military-industrial-congressional complex.
Well, that's where a lot of it goes.
Other politicians, to include Jake Sullivan, said, oh yeah, we're spending a lot of money here in the United States because we make the weapons.
So that's number one.
Number two, and this is where it gets dicey, is the direct funding of the Ukrainian government, their civil service, their puppet shows in Kiev, the politicians.
We are literally throwing money at them like they were a state of the union.
This is like us throwing money at Puerto Rico.
Once Puerto Rico had a hurricane, that's what we're doing here.
And so that money I know for a fact is the issue.
And then the third category of money is that which actually goes to defending their nation.
That is to say that they depend on us giving a certain amount of liquid assets, a certain amount of cash, which is supposed to go for local use.
That is to say contractors, which are Contracted by the Ukrainian government to go do things or make things.
And that's where we're finding all that money has been essentially stolen.
It's not been used for anything that was supposed to be on the bill of goods that we were supposed to be funding.
And I don't, again, I don't know why people are surprised by this.
Everybody's somehow, Oh, geez, this should have been something we looked at.
Well, a lot of us did want to look at it, It was the political left who I would argue, when I mentioned the politicians there, Jack, I think there's some link between U.S.
Democrat politicians and those on the ground.
Mr. 10%, Joe Biden, may have gotten 10% from under Biden and what they were doing, so I think there's some real issues there that have to be looked at.
Well and there's no question but unfortunately the people who are caught in the middle of all this are the number one the Ukrainian soldiers and number two the Ukrainian people that are all caught in the middle.
I think we actually have one of the contracts we can show this up if we have here and you can see again these are the documents that list you and you can see the leader's names right next to the names of the companies that were sent over many of the same times you see these companies that exist only on Yeah, of course.
because they're controlled by directly linked to the oligarchs that were given the money.
So they were told of, you know, one is a contract for wood, one was a contract for concrete, one was a contract for, you know, trench entrenchments and shovels and all this.
But Tony, talk to me about the Russian advance that we've actually seen.
What do you think Russia's strategy is?
Do you think that they intend to actually attempt to take the city of Kharkiv?
Of course.
I think it's a matter of time.
To your point, you mentioned in the run-up that there were villages you're just kind of walking into.
There's been extraordinary gains of land.
I mean, in the last five days, I think they've gained like 120 kilometers.
Now think about the slugfest they've been in, Jack.
They've been fighting for millimeters, you know, meters to millimeters of territory every day.
And then all of a sudden it's like, hey, everything's open.
Well, everything is open because the very thing we're talking about.
Oligarchs not having built these fallback positions, these barriers, the Russians are just driving along.
So I think the Russians are going to have to assess what do they do?
I think they kind of knew this was going on.
I mean, the Russians have got really good intel on everything going on there.
And I think that the Russians now are going to look at two things.
First, what will be the cost of Of obtaining and controlling more land.
Is it worth it to us?
Because so far, the Donbass and other regions they've taken control of, there's very little in the way of, you know, most of the populations for them being there.
So the other thing that the Western media continues to not report at all, it's like, yeah, there's no people being upset with the Russians being there because they're kind of Russians who are for the Russian occupation.
And I wouldn't call it an occupation.
I'd say the Russians One of the referendum and that referendum has been kind of done by the fact they've retained the land and everybody's not upset.
Secondly, what do the Russians want relating to the territory?
And I think they could go all the way to the river.
And we're going to learn that very soon.
And I think you're right, Tony.
A quick break here.
We'll be right back.
Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer breaking down the latest developments, the Russian offensive across the northern border of Ukraine.
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All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer.
Now, Tony, we've been talking a lot about the Russian advance and the lack of defenses, the corruption, but here's another piece I want to talk about because also since Putin's re inauguration, starting a new term as the president of Russia, I believe it's his fourth term.
I'm sure there's going to be many more terms that he He is something the Russian government does typically when a new presidential term starts is that they really shift around a lot of the names, a lot of the officials.
And so we're seeing these huge headlines out of Western media saying the Russian Minister of Defense has been fired.
He's been sacked.
He was let go all of this.
That means actually what's happening in Russia is falling apart.
The war effort is terrible.
Let me ask you a question back, Jack.
square with what we see on the ground because they have they're conducting a successful offensive right now.
What's really going on inside the Kremlin?
And does this tie back to everything we saw with Purgosian and Wagner last year?
Well, let me ask you a question back, Jack.
How many times have we been told that Vladimir Putin is about to die?
I mean, how many times You mean this week or aggregate?
Dozens, dozens.
So when Putin died last year, no, no, no, Tony, he died last year and he was replaced by evil Putin.
Evil Putin from the alternate dimension is here now.
He just shaved.
I know.
So that's my point.
It's like we constantly see Western media, especially the British, reporting on aspirations, not on facts.
So I try to be very clear.
In my commentary, and in this case, my observations, my rational opinion, if you will, is that these are all promotions.
Putin has had to adjust, no doubt.
When they first went into Ukraine, the internal corruption in their political system and MOD, military, their DOD, version of DOD, killed them.
I mean, literally, it was killing people.
Tanks weren't prepared.
Special weapons weren't prepared, not nuclear, but other special weapons.
They had no drones.
And so they learned from that.
So Shoigu has actually been the guy who helped write the ship.
He helped get the weaponized systems, systems that needed to produce the weapons online and producing.
That's why now they're out producing the West, the whole West.
They're out producing the EU and the United States based on And so why on earth, Jack, would you fire the guy who actually fixed the system that everybody acknowledged was wrong?
Well, you don't.
You promote him.
And you change people around and put them in positions which you think they'll be most effective as they start driving.
And I was about to say at the end of the last, before we went to break, the NEPR, as they start driving towards the NEPR.
And then once they get to the Dnepra, they'll have to make some decisions on what they want to do.
They've already said they want Odessa.
So if you've got real estate in Odessa, Jack, you should be, your investment should pay off. - Yes, exactly.
Yeah, well, get out while you still can, I'll put it that way.
I'm not sure if you're going to find any buyers unless, maybe if they have Russian last names, I'm not sure.
No, because they're going to be turning, because I think Odessa at this point next year will be talking about what base the Russian Navy will be giving the name to over in Odessa, unfortunately, because it looks like at this point, The Russians don't have any direct need, or here's my point, all right?
What leverage does the West, does Ukraine, does Zelensky, does Biden have in getting Putin to the negotiating table?
Why would he want to?
What's in it for him?
What incentive does he have to negotiate when every single time the Russians have tried to, they've either been lied to or the negotiations were broken?
This is why you're seeing some of these officials like the Russian ambassador to the UN going in and saying the only thing that should be on the table is Ukraine's surrender.
Yeah.
So that's the issue.
They have nothing left.
So you've seen from the neocon class the issue of nuclear weapons.
Oh, there's nuclear weapons?
Yes, that's always a possibility since the Cold War.
That is something that lingers.
But you see the neocons kind of saber rattling as if like the West may do something.
Of course, you've got the French President Macron pretending to be Napoleon.
One day he's going to send troops in, the next he's saying, oh no, we're not.
The strategic ambiguity, which has never worked.
You see, it's a clown show, Jack.
It's a clown show.
And at this point, Putin and his team are in the driver's seat.
And I think the only reason they are being restrained is what I said earlier on your show.
They're trying to figure out what's going to be the cost.
You know, we, we mobilized, we've got all these soldiers in uniform.
How much do we want to pay for, for, you know, the territory we take?
How much is it going to cost us to retain it?
I believe, and I said this a year ago, when we started talking about this, they want to turn Ukraine into a rump state.
It's kind of like Switzerland, something neutral that will not be Fish or fowl.
It'll be just kind of a state that exists, and the territory they already hold right now will become part of Russia.
Everything else becomes a buffer, and the people who ultimately are going to suffer are the Ukrainian people, which I feel very badly.
And this is the main issue.
Look, we've already heard that the Russians have, that some people are even theorizing that the Russians are looking at the Battle of Kharkov the same way they're looking, they looked, or last year, or I should even say no, it was two years ago at this point, the Battle of Mariupol down in the Donetsk province.
I always say province.
They're like, no, it's supposed to be Oblast.
I'm like, no, I'm speaking English.
I'm just going to say province.
That's okay.
Yes, I know it's an Oblast, but I'm going to say province because I'm speaking English right now.
It's the English language.
And we use the word province over here.
And so it's a way for people to understand this.
But that being the case, do you think that we're going to start seeing, I guess the next thing that we would start seeing is mass evacuations of the city?
I think so.
So just again, a question to you, Jack.
When have we seen the Russians not take a city or a territory they set their mind to do?
They've been very consistent, very meticulous.
They've been using essentially aggressive attrition, the other side's attrition, not their attrition, to formulate and execute their military strategy.
And at this point, unless there is a foreign nation, foreign force coming in, manpower, Stop them.
They're going to continue to do it.
Oh, by the way, you've heard the S-16s.
The next Wonder Weapon is going to stop them.
I roll my eyes over and over because it's just... You know, that's the Wonder Weapon.
You know, the Wonder Weapon was also something that the Germans were talking about towards the end.
Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schafer, where can people follow you to get all the updates and all your information?
Projectsignal.com and, of course, on Twitter, like you and I, chat all the time and we'll see you again soon.
Jack, thanks for having me.
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