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EPISODE 711: XI VAN FLEET TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE AMERICAN CULTURAL REVOLUTION

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
Today is April 10th, 2024.
Anno Domini, and I'm very excited to welcome an esteemed guest and honored to welcome Xi Van Fleet, the survivor of the Chinese Communist Revolution and outspoken author of the new book, Mao's America, here to the program.
Xi, thank you so much for joining us.
Well, thank you so much to have to have me.
And I must also, of course, say, I am very happy to welcome you to join our program.
Thank you, thank you.
What a surprise that you speak Chinese.
So tell us, for folks who don't know, tell us your background just briefly, and then we have a quick break and we'll come in for a longer segment here in a minute.
Yes, I grew up in Mao's China.
I spent my first 26 years In China and my entire school years in the Cultural Revolution, and I witnessed the entire 10 years of the revolution.
And after that, I was sent to the countryside by Mao to get my re-education.
I was only able to go to college after Mao died and to study English.
In 1986, I was able to come to America to pursue my graduate study.
And I've been here for more than 30 years, never involved politically.
Until 2020.
And that's the time I know that I have to speak out and to save this country.
And that's when I decided to go to the Loudoun County School Board and deliver that less than one minute speech, which to my great surprise went viral.
And that's led me where I am today, being really a spokesperson against communism and against the indoctrination and in America.
Because everything that we are seeing today and things that things that I learned about when I lived in China and we were chatting before the show, first visited there in 2006, so almost 20 years ago, but also lived there for about two years and learned for the but also lived there for about two years and learned for the I knew nothing.
Before I went to China, I knew nothing about the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
I had no idea that anything like this had ever happened.
So I wouldn't say that I had been indoctrinated, but I was ignorant.
I was ignorant of it because I had no idea that such a thing could have happened in my lifetime.
I found out about it and I heard about these things that took place.
I couldn't believe it.
And then it took so many years for people to finally start talking about it.
And you've written the new book.
I can't wait to ask you all about it.
We are coming up on that quick break I mentioned.
We're going to be back much longer next segment.
Folks, we are so excited.
We have She-Van Fleet here with us.
She's the author of Mal's America.
Look, I know I talk about the CCP all the time, but I'm going to sit back and let you hear for once from someone who lived through it and came out to tell the tale.
Stay tuned.
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All right, we're back, and we had a short segment before, so I really want to give the floor to Sheevan Fleet here because You write in your book, Mao's America, that some of the things that you saw growing up in China and beginning with the Chinese Cultural Revolution, which was actually a revolution within a revolution because people don't understand that, that it was a revolution against the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party. that it was a revolution against the leadership of the
And to bring people up to speed and correct me if I have any of the story wrong, please, but it's in the wake of the Great Leap Forward, the massive famine that is instituted because of Mao's policies, this huge failure, so many people, so many Chinese people lose their lives, that Mao, the other leaders of the party, start to so many Chinese people lose their lives, that Mao, the other leaders of the party, start to Maybe we should push him out.
Maybe we should get rid of him from power in the party.
So even other members of the CCP wanted to take out Mao.
So what does Mao do at that point?
Well, he does the only thing he knows how to do.
He launches another revolution against his own party, against the CCP, against the communist leaders to maintain power.
And that's when he goes to the youth that he called the Red Guard.
How did he do it?
And tell us what you remember.
I'm so glad you got everything right.
So in one word, to summarize the Chinese Cultural Revolution, it is called seize power.
Power from what?
From his own party, from his own government.
So that's why it is so much a parallel to what's going on in today's America.
It's all about power.
Keep that in mind.
So I was only seven, just finished my first semester of my first grade.
And I call that the only somewhat normal education I got.
And after I started second semester, cultural revolution started.
And to me, it was like overnight.
Just like to a lot of Americans, 2020 is almost like overnight.
Overnight, our school stopped and there's no classes.
And we were told that No school for three days, and that three days turned into two years.
And what did we do?
We had no school, we went out on the street, and we witnessed the Cultural Revolution.
And that was absolutely a world turned upside down.
And I think some people probably watched the opening scene of the new Netflix series, The Three-Body Problem.
What's going on all over China and struggle sessions against those people in power.
And they were told that they were the ones that want to take us back to capitalism to suffer one more time.
And so we need to defend socialism.
And who are those people in power?
And for the kids, you know, the first thing that came in my mind is in their mind is teachers and the principals.
That's their what they are.
The teachers and the principals and every one of the principals in China, without exception, have to go through the struggle session, just like what's portrayed in the three-body problem opening scene.
Some were killed right on the spot, and I just talked to a friend of mine.
She witnessed the Red Guards put human feces into the professor's mouth and forced him to eat it.
And that's how barbaric that went.
And you ask me why?
What happened to these kids overnight?
It did not happen overnight, because those kids have been indoctrinated in the Mao's government school for 17 years.
They knew nothing.
They never taught real history.
The only thing they know is that they are the children of the party, and Mao was our real parent.
We were supposed to be revolutionaries, just like today.
The kids, they want to be activists.
We were taught we are the successors of the socialism of Chinese Communist Revolution.
So we become really revolutionaries to overthrow everything, including the Chinese civilization, and what we're told to destroy the four oaths.
Culture, old idea, old habit, and old custom.
That's everything that they can find.
Statues?
Statues, yes.
They went to the temples and the churches, destroyed the statues.
They changed the names of institutions, of their schools, of stores, everything, including their own personal names.
And that's what's going on in America today.
And that is really the cancel culture, the Chinese cancel culture.
Everything happened here.
And a lot of people say, what happened in America?
What's going on?
And I have to tell you, it is nothing new.
It happened in China.
It happened to me.
I was too little to be a Red Guard.
I was only seven, but I witnessed everything.
And eventually it become violence.
And the first, the first one to die in the hands of the Red Guards were a principal, killed by her students.
Bunch of young girls from 12 to 16 years old.
They were the girls' middle school in Beijing, the most prodigious middle school.
And those kids, overnight, turned into killers.
And this is really coming to America.
And so the idea was that this violence was being done against principals, not because the principal had committed violence to the students or that the principal had committed some crime against not because the principal had committed violence to the students or that the principal had committed some crime against the students, but it actually was out of loyalty to Mao and loyalty to the
The party leaders and party officials who were disloyal, they then too had to go on struggle sessions.
They too could become black class.
They too could become the right-wing fans, the counter-revolutionary extremes.
And it's so important because people understand that the sign, right, the sign underneath their neck, that's your crime, right?
That's the crime and they and there's no trial.
This is the trial.
The trial is what you're watching.
It is a trial.
And it's a people's trial.
And right, it is a people's trial.
And so I guess the difference for me and we actually so in my new book, Unhumans, one of the things we talk about is How what's changed is not the tactic, what's changed is the technology.
And so the new cancel culture, it could be online, it could be social media, it could be on Twitter, it could be Facebook, whatever your, you know, TikTok, whatever the system is, is that it's digitized and it's a new kind of fifth generation warfare version of what was going on all the way back in the 1960s is that it's digitized and it's a new kind of fifth generation warfare version of
So it's the same tactic, but instead of having to, you know, gather everyone in the big arena or gather everyone in the big stadium, you use the internet and you use social media, you send a notification to everyone's phone.
And so it's become a form of irregular warfare because it's all being done in the digital space.
But at the same time, is the outcome any different?
Because we're still seeing people lose their jobs.
We're seeing people lose contracts.
We're seeing people lose their reputation.
And they are then sent, essentially, to the countryside in order to find some work.
Isn't that right?
Yeah, they're not just losing their jobs.
They are went after by the mobs.
And then they are physically threatened.
And so the violence will come right after.
I mean, if we don't stop it.
And I have to go back to what you're talking about, of the Red Guard.
What made them hate their principals and teachers that much they want to kill?
That is a great question.
What happened?
What happened is indoctrination.
The teachers probably, I don't think the teacher did anything to them personally, and the principal did anything to them personally.
But why they hate so much?
Because the party told them Now the enemy of the people are called the reactionary intellectual authority.
So a label, a label to a group of people, and that's enough.
That's enough for the Red Guards to turn their hatred to their teacher, that yesterday they were just friendly and today they become enemy that need to be eliminated.
And we see it happening here.
The hatred is call someone Orange man bad, evil, and then that's enough for them to have that kind of hatred.
They will go along with the left.
Anything they can do is okay, because this is the enemy of the state.
And then MAGA.
MAGA is another, just like counter-revolutionary, right?
If someone is labeled MAGA, well, that's the enemy of the state.
So they use the same tactics.
The only difference is You know, as you said, technology has replaced some of the face-to-face struggle sessions.
Now it's online.
Technological sessions versus in-person face-to-face struggle sessions.
The tactics are the same.
The only difference is the technology.
Sheevan Fleet is here with us.
Bombshell interview.
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We'll be right back.
Can't wait to get my hands on that book.
All right, we are with Xi Van Fleet with one of the most remarkable interviews that we've ever done.
We're talking, telling the truth, telling the truth about what happened during the Chinese Cultural Revolution.
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So we're on with Xi Jinping and we've spoken about the Hongwei-bing, the Red Guards, and we've spoken about the Pido Da Hui, these struggle sessions.
But tell me, what happened to the Red Guards after all of this went on?
Because Mao, of course, has to end the Cultural Revolution at some point because they do completely go out of control.
They stop listening to him.
And he's got these newsletters and these huge newsletters and radio.
That was the technology of the time.
Didn't even have TV yet throughout China.
But at the end of it, the Red Guards became so violent.
They became so out of control that even Mao couldn't really control them.
So what did he have to do with them?
Yes, I have to go back a little bit that the Red Guards were giving full power to go after people, go after property, go after everything, anything.
And all they need to do is wear that army armband, say Red Guards.
And in the end of the culture, in the end of the first two years of the Red Guards movement, they took down all the so-called black class people, those in power.
And and then you know what happened?
They start to fight each other because they thought now all the people in power was taken down by us.
It is time that we share the power.
We should have a seat at the table.
They start to fight each other.
And at that time, it became almost like a civil war.
Weapons were used, not sticks and stones anymore.
It's absolutely the real weapon.
A lot of them were killed by themselves.
And eventually, it is so out of control, and Mao already achieved his goals, because he got his political enemy out of power, and he had to deal with those rebels, the Red Guards.
So what did he do?
He used the military to suppress, so-called suppress some of them, the most violent part of the Red Guards, basically killed them.
And then what to do with the rest?
He sent them to the countryside, all the gulags, and said, to get your re-education, you have been proven to be good revolutionaries, but not good enough.
You have to go to the countryside and become better revolutionaries through physical labor.
What happened to the Red Guards was tragic, so tragic that they are called the lost generation.
After 10 years in the end of the Cultural Revolution, they came back, they lost school, they lost education, and they were too old to learn new skills, and they were basically abandoned and forgotten.
And that's what happened to the revolutionaries.
So today, the activists, you should take the lesson, and you have been used as pawns by the political radicals.
They were going to get rid of you.
All those looters, you think you can get away?
And no, no, no.
A gulag is what is planned for you.
So I think this is something that people really, really have to understand.
Nothing is going to end well for those who participated in this so-called revolution.
No, and of course, Mao was always using this to go after the other leaders in the party, people like Lin Biao, people like Liu Xiaoqi, that, you know, whether they killed in prison or died in, you know, mysterious plane crash in Mongolia and all of these things, he was using it to go after rivals.
And there's actually, you know, we don't have enough time to go all the way into it.
There's quite a remarkable story about Deng Xiaoping and that he was able to Yes, and so this is communism.
People have no idea because they were never taught real history.
Young people were taught that communism is all about sharing.
from the Red Guards, basically. - Yes, and so this is communism.
People have no idea because they were never taught real history.
Young people were taught that communism is all about sharing.
No, communism is absolutely, it's a religion, and also it's a meat grinder.
No one is safe under communism, not even the communists themselves.
Communism killed more communists than any other people that are not communists.
And that's something they need to know.
And they don't.
And that's the tragedy.
And that's also by design.
They don't want to teach Americans about communism.
Here is, so here's the thesis of our, of the book, myself and Joshua Lysak, my co-author, Unhumans, we call it The Secret History of Communist Revolutions, and we focus on how communism takes hold in country after country, and China, of course, is a huge part of this, but we also do Russia, we focus on Spain, where it was defeated, we talk about Cambodia, we talk about the French Revolution, which was a sort of a proto-communist revolution,
And our thesis in this is that, and the reason we call them unhumans is because that's what they do.
They become unhuman and they unhuman others.
It's also a verb.
And that ultimately it isn't about sharing and it isn't about justice, that these words are window dressing and these words are marketing.
That what it really is, is resentment, it is petty cruelty, it is anger, it is envy, And they never actually want, and ultimately power, and the power not to create, but only the power to destroy.
And I guess my sense is, and this is what we, I need to explain this to conservatives.
I need to explain this to moderates, to liberals, to anyone who's not that far, maybe even if there's good liberals still out there.
These people do not have good intentions.
They never did.
They just want power and they want the power to destroy those they view as their enemies.
Also, something I need to add, that why, why they use communism, Marxism, as their tactics to achieve power?
Why don't they just come out and say, we want power, we want to control you?
And the reason, of course, is communism and Marxism proving to be the most effective and deceptive tactic to reach the power.
They never say, you know, we want power.
They always say we do it for the good of the people.
Equity.
We want everyone to have the same thing.
We want to spread the wealth.
And it all started like that.
And it started like that in America as well.
Not today, not in 2020.
Long time ago.
Exactly.
And so it's it.
We're going to share this.
These look at these these these leaders.
And when I when they say the peasants and they said, well, then there's also the class of the wealthy peasants.
And this was Chairman Mao.
So he, you know, his family was quite wealthy.
Lenin's family was wealthy.
They all have come from wealthy families themselves.
And what it really is, is when you look at it today, you wouldn't say wealthy peasant, you would say maybe like a small business owner or an Airbnb owner, someone who has the squatters.
Yes.
I say, have you, you've seen the squatter issue that's going on right now in America, And I say, this is exactly, it's not just similar.
This is exactly what would happen during land reform campaign in China, during the dekulakization in Russia.
If you had too much land, if they decided you had too much land, if they decided you had too much property, they would come and they would give it to someone poor or someone who is poorer than you.
And if they decided that you were upset about it, you were arrested and you went to jail.
I said, this is exactly what they always do.
It isn't even a little bit different.
But how long are they going to keep the land they were given, the free land?
And only five years later in China, all the land was taken back by the state in the name of the people.
It's called the People's Commune.
Even up to today, no one owns any land.
It's owned by the people.
People.
Who are the people?
State.
The government.
The people need to know part two of communism.
Too many of them were so attracted to part one.
That's the slogan.
And that was the beautiful narrative.
They need to know part two, which is why I'm so passionate about educating Americans of what communism is really about.
It's really about power.
And they just use those attractive slogans to get you in and to follow them, to support them.
And then you all become slaves.
Communism is slavery.
I've always tried to explain it to people like this.
When you think of the word communism itself in Mandarin, what does Gong Chan mean?
It means public property, collective ownership.
So the opposite of private property is everyone owns property, which means no one owns property.
What is the collective?
Of course, as you say, it is the state.
Yeah, exactly.
There's just nothing ends well with communism.
Nothing.
And even those who got in for power, and then they end up becoming the losers of the infighting.
Liu Shaoqi, the president of China, was the number one victim of the Cultural Revolution.
He was taken down from his position, and he was persecuted to death.
Number two figure of CCP.
No one, no one is safe under communism.
You could be the most committed communist, you could be... Lou Xiaoqi, he was Mao's number one, the number one man under Mao, was Lou Xiaoqi.
All through Long March, all through the Shanghai meeting, all through everything that he did through the rise of China, and it didn't matter.
Because at the end, Mao was so paranoid, He wanted so much power.
He was so envious for himself that even his own best friend was not immune to the ravages of this.
This is an incredible interview.
People need to understand the truth of this.
And I want to talk about solutions, if we can.
So we're going to hold you over.
And we need to talk about what things people can do, big scale and little scale, to help improve the education about the truth in our country.
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Now, she, there's, real quick, I want to get into solutions with you, and solutions are important because we need to explain solutions to people, but...
Let's ask a question because people will also say to me, they say, how can this be a cultural revolution if the cultural revolution was about Chairman Mao?
There's no Chairman Mao today.
We don't see a Chairman Mao figure that's out right now.
So how is this the same as a cultural revolution that China saw in 1960s to 1970s?
I always love to quote Mark Twain.
History never repeats itself, but also often rhymes.
You cannot really compare history event to event, and it's a different time, it's a different cultures, it's a different world.
But it is about power.
And for Mao, he wants power from his own party.
He launched the Cultural Revolution.
And here too, the same thing.
But we don't see a Mao.
It doesn't matter.
It's a group of people.
Those are the globalists.
They're not even Americans.
They don't identify themselves as American.
They want power.
So they're doing exactly the same thing, but we just don't see them.
But if we don't stop them, eventually another Mao will emerge from them because they cannot share power.
They will never peacefully share power.
The one that is the most ruthless will emerge as the new Mao.
That's exactly right, and I've spoken about this.
When we had Tucker on the program, I specifically put out that warning to say that we should not wait for a Chairman Mao to emerge, because once we get to that point, we are going to be so far behind in this.
So, in un-humans, and by the way, would you agree, are these people, are they the un-humans?
They're absolutely.
They're demons.
They're demons.
That's the only way we can explain.
Yes, and it is demonic.
It's absolutely demonic.
It's a perfect title for your book and for your show.
Thank you very much.
And so when we look at this, we see people out there every day fighting at the higher levels.
We see Elon Musk fighting for freedom of speech.
We see Donald Trump fighting in the political arena and so many people fighting in the political arena.
People come to me every day and they say, well, how can I fight back?
I'm just, I'm just one guy.
I'm one dad.
I'm one mom.
I work.
What can I do on a regular basis to fight back?
And of course I say, make sure you share the show and, you know, get the word out.
But, but let me ask you, what else can people do actively to fight back against this irregular cultural revolution that we are currently in?
I think we should believe in the power of we the people.
And that's what The founding father believed in, and we all have power.
We might not be able to do what Elon Musk or Tucker Carlson or Trump have been doing, but we all have power.
And I always say the first thing, first thing is to understand.
Understand that we are in a war, and we're in a war with radical communists, Marxists, They want to take over this country.
So that is important to watch your show, read my book and your book is the first step.
You have to understand in order to fight back effectively.
And the second one is you have to get involved.
You can't just get mad and and become a keyboard warrior.
You have to get involved and you have to get involved locally, locally.
That's how I got involved.
And that's how I decided to go to the school board.
And school is the key to win this war.
If we can't win back our education system, we cannot win the war, period.
And the school has become indoctrination centers for decades.
And what's the solution?
We have to bring back the classic education.
And I know you're going to interview the founders of a classic school in Maryland.
How do we get back?
We have to teach the children the principles of American funding, the biblical values.
That's what makes this country so great.
And that's something that's totally missing.
We need to make our education system to train the future responsible citizens, not activists, not revolutionaries.
So the first thing we can do is Get involved locally and go to school board.
Hold your school board accountable.
And everything we do has to be at the local level.
Get organized, get involved.
That's how we take back our country.
And this is so important going to the school level and supporting those schools that we can find out there that have classical systems that have and yes by the way religious systems in many cases going to the school boards as well who are teaching this stuff and controlling this.
And that's something where it's a state and it's a state, local and federal issue because we've unfortunately we've made education in this country federal.
It shouldn't be that way.
It should be that the local school board and the parents of each school district should be able to determine whatever it is that their kids are learning and they should be able to set the standards there, not some federal bureaucrat in Washington, D.C. having control of our child's education over control of our school's. D.C. having control of our child's education over control of
It's ridiculous It's insane and it's completely un-american and what it is It's it's much closer to something that you would see in one of these communist systems where the centralization of power and the centralization of ideology the centralization of Everything comes on that.
That is where the word totalitarian comes from.
It's the word in total control.
And so the great beauty of the American system was that we would have decentralized power.
We would have decentralized control where people can say this is what we want.
And this is what we will have with those basics that are still taught.
I mean, they're trying to you know, you're you're in the In the D.C.
area, as well as me, they want to change the name of the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
They said Francis Scott Key.
We've decided that he is a it's just a recent example for us.
But here we go.
Another one of a great American heroes, a guy who the man who wrote the song that is our national anthem.
And so what I've said is they're going to use this bridge as a way to go after Francis Scott Key.
And then they're going to use it as a way to say, you know, maybe we should have a new national anthem.
Maybe we should have a, you know, a black national anthem and all of this.
That's exactly what they're doing.
Is it from your perspective?
Are you surprised?
Are you surprised?
No, no, no.
They were away with no chance, no opportunity to push their agenda.
Absolutely.
In Virginia, they have changed.
So many schools that are named after our founding father, they will continue to do that, and they will not stop.
And that's something I really want people to understand.
Conservatives, please, this is not some fight that we just get involved and get over with.
No, they have launched this revolution against America for decades.
This is going to be a long fight, and we should not, should not, I think this is just something I get involved and then we went.
We have to be prepared.
And I'm prepared.
And this is going to be a long haul.
Are we approaching a critical point in history here?
Is this something where we have a long time and people don't need to worry about it?
Or do they need to worry about it right now?
If you ask me, I have to be honest.
And when I look at the people, when I look at Things around me, something fundamental has changed.
The American worldview, which is based on Christianity and the Judeo-Christian value, has been replaced by Marxist worldview.
We already fell off the cliff.
We're fighting so that we have a soft landing.
That's how bad things are.
When I look at everything from entertainment, from media, and from the young people, yeah, this is going to be a really, really hard fight.
But we have to fight today and yesterday, which started a long time ago.
We're approaching the critical point of history.
Don't take it from me, folks.
Look, the book is on humans.
People can check it out.
Her book is Mao's America.
If you want to dig even further to find out how horrific these communists can be, go and read her book.
Xi Jinping, we are so honored that you've been with us today and been so generous with your time.
Where can people follow you?
Twitter.
I tweet every day and I do give the parallels, the history lessons.
So please follow me, X-V-A-N-F-L-E-E-T on X.
Thank you so much for having me.
God bless.
Thank you so much for being with us here today, Xi Van Fleet.
Stay tuned, folks.
We've got a very special surprise coming up in the very next segment.
Please go follow But I got a hankering, yearning deep inside for this book called Unhumans I just can't hide.
All right, Jack, we're back live, Human Events Daily.
So the question is, what do you do?
What do you do in a situation like this when you feel like everyone's being indoctrinated, you feel like your government is not the government you remember?
Well, it starts at the educational level.
And if you've got a family, if you've got parents, or if you are a parent like myself and my wife, you might want to make sure that you're doing the right thing to educate the next generation.
And even if you don't have kids or even if you have grandkids or just want to support something like this, you realize that there's something that's going wrong with our public schools.
Our next guest.
Ali Ghaffari actually took this a step further and instituted a classical Christian and Catholic school in Maryland, and he's part of a new movement that I know about that's sweeping the country of people that are checking out.
Ali, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thanks for having me on, Jack.
Alright, also fellow Navy guy, gotta throw it out there, hoo-yah!
Yeah, go Navy!
So tell us, what led you to want to found Divine Mercy Academy?
So as you mentioned, we're a Navy family, so we traveled around the country a lot.
We've seen a lot of schools, and I knew in my mind what I wanted for my kids.
I wanted them to have an education that helped form them as people of character, but also one that strengthened their faith and teaches them to be critical thinkers.
And we put them in some local schools here, some private schools, public schools, and we found the furthest thing from what we wanted And so we took matters into our own hands and we started our own school.
And so when you wanted to put the school together, why was it so important to you to introduce the classic education system?
Back when I was in college, I bought into society that said everything's relative, there's no truth, and I was lost, and I was terribly unhappy.
But it was only through reading the classics, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, where you learned The truth exists, that we ought to live lives of virtue.
That led me out of that darkness, that loneliness, and into the light of living a good life, a life of human flourishing.
And I wanted that badly for my kids.
And so I said, that has to be the central part of any form of education.
I just didn't know what it was called or I'd never seen it before in the educational space.
And then I heard about this classical educational model.
There's a school in Hyattsville, Maryland called St.
Jerome's Academy.
Which features it, and their story is amazing.
But they turned this failing school around into this wildly flourishing school.
And when I heard the story, I said, that's it.
That's exactly what I want for my kids.
But there were no schools near us that had that classical or Catholic liberal education model that was so prevalent for 2,000 years.
I said, I need to start something for my own kids, because time's wasting.
I only have so many years for my kids.
I need to do something now.
And that's exactly right, and there's so many of these that I know, for the War Room fans out there, I know that Steve Bannon talks about this a lot, there's so many of these classic academies, the Regina Academies are out there as another example, where people are coming together and saying that we want to put faith first, but even in addition to that, it's actually going back to those older, as you say, these older classics that are put right up there, so it's like, I talk about it this way, when I talk about Western Civilization, I always say, well, people say, well, define Western civilization.
I say, it's very clear.
It's very clear.
Greek philosophy, Roman laws, and the morals of the Holy Bible.
And if you put all of those three together, I think those are the three bedrock cornerstones of what gets you Western civilization.
That's absolutely right.
And then the combination of those things together has been honed over a couple thousand years through the Church.
And in that way, we were able to create the greatest minds of Western civilization.
St.
Thomas Aquinas, St.
Augustine, even our founding fathers were educated in this manner.
And most of them, in fact, almost all of them, Didn't go to a public school.
They studied at home.
They were homeschooled for most of their education.
And then they went out and they supplemented that in a free market economy of schools, not in some factory school where ideology was just crammed down their throat.
That's right.
And so in these factory schools, it's so funny you mentioned it that way, because it's 100% right.
This was this system was created by the Germans for factory workers.
And it teaches you much more your grade points.
This whole business went back to the idea that we're going to be crammed through that's an assembly line form of school as opposed to actual mastery of concepts, mastery of the arts, mastery of whatever specific discipline it is that you're focused on.
It's pushing you through to maximize as many people as possible.
I could make some army jokes there, by the way, but I'm not going to do that right now, even though we have some of you guys on.
You know what I'm talking about.
But I would never do that because we love our army.
We love our backpackers.
And what it comes down to, though, is that's not really educating anybody, is it?
It's not.
For us, we went through public schools in all likelihood, or most of your listeners probably, and we don't know any differently.
But American education wasn't always the way it is today.
As I mentioned at the time of the Founding Fathers, we had the most educated population in the world, and those folks were educated using predominantly homeschooling methodology.
These cheap primer books that their parents would teach them with, they would have tutors, they'd have Local churches providing education, entrepreneurs out there, and we created the most highly educated system in the world.
But this changed as a result of some early educational reformers, Horace Mann is one, John Dewey is another, where they had some ideas about creating utopia or communism, creating a system where the state controls the education in the formation of children.
They had a failed experiment of creating a commune called New Harmony in Indiana back in the 1820s, and they said the reason this failed was because our children were too formed.
The people were too formed.
So we need to get the children as early as we possibly can when they're a blank slate, and we need to form them the principles of communism so they can realize this utopia on Earth.
And so these ideas got to Germany and informed their educational system there, where they created a state-based educational system, which then came back through Horace Mann to the state of Massachusetts, and then spread into America, where we had these schools where the state created the formation, where the state believed it could form children better than parents could, and said, we want to indoctrinate these children with these socialist ideologies so that they can become slaves to the state.
And this is where the belief of the state being in charge of this came from.
The website is divinemercy.md.
I apologize, we're running up on the end of the show.
We're going to get you on though for a longer block because this is fascinating.
The actual history of where our current education system came from and an understanding of how we got here and how to get out of it.
Divinemercy.md.
Make sure everybody checks it out and checks out this movement.
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